Soldiers of Light...y'know, when they're discussin' stuff 8

[Astral Harmony]

All right. In a nut shell, all Team Good members still alive should ["Note that I said 'should', not 'must'."] be aboard the ship, all Team Evil members should be hauling ass out of the temple before it collapses completely and so Raiden can haul Talkatz out to yell at Team Evil and we can get RPS thread 7 out of the way. That is, I'm assuming that Talkatz is the 'interesting visitor' mentioned in the title.

Oh, and I should probably discuss the creature named Arachnarok that I mentioned in my last post. If, and most likely, when Team Good encounters this giant spider devil, it'll be in the netherworld Talkatz rules over, and they'll be fighting Arachnarok by itself. It's a terribly berserk and insane monstrosity and would sooner kill its allies if they were the closer food items. And just in case you haven't figured it out, its name is a simple combination of "arachnid" and "ragnarok."

[GARUD]

We have more discussion threads rather than actual RPing. Oh well. Looking forward to that fight (if Garud survives that long).

Also, i'm going to ask if I can add another character later. It will be an evil character, and be added after Team Evil has their first peice. Is that okay?

Also, who is going to control the characters that have left? We still have Koyuki, Chicane and Ti to get rid of, but we need someone who can lead them up to their demise (although I get to kill the preistess. DIBS!)

Anyway, I sense a dream sequence.

[Astral Harmony]

Koyuki's dead by underestimating her wounds when she used her full human form. You said you were gonna kill Chikane. And I didn't think Ti quit.

[Arhra]

The reason we have more discussion threads than RP threads is because we have a lot of pointless posts in the discussion threads. Like this one.

As for Chikane's death, I think Dante said he was planning to have her disappear. Ti might simply go off on his own goals if Ecurt quits.

Well, I've written a post to get everyone in Team Evil out of the temple. I hope no-one's annoyed with any liberties I've taken (best to be certain, given the recent unpleasantness).

[TheBlindMime]

Ecurt has already quit, citing that he barely was in this roleplay at all. Somewhat ironic no one really noticed him leaving as well.

Hopefully Arhra's post will place us at the next chapter. As far as the rest of team good I say we just have them all jump on board in the confusion of everything.

Now that we sufficiently destroyed all of those monks and their way of life.

[Dragonsbane]

no problem, Arhra, since you kept Raikotsu mostly in-character.

Yeah, Ecurt's character really didn't do much.

[PhoenixFlame]

Eh, I'm debating on taking back that earlier statement. I'm itching to bring Koyuki's legitimate grievances to bear agaisnt Talkatz.

Besides, nobody seems to believe she's dead anyway, no matter how often it's said. I'm willing to pass off the last thread of fierce arguing off as a misunderstanding if the rest of you are.

Edit, Down: No, she was a throwaway, actually.

[Inbred Chocobo]

I don't mind, and if Radien minds then I will give his sprite a bra, so he probably won't mind. Though I hope you didn't want Ayame back.

[Mintaro]

if you come back, don't complain when our characters don't act how you want (or rather expect) them too. that's all I ask.....that and make good use of Rio!

[PhoenixFlame]

... Nevermind then. I was afraid this would be the general response. I still don't know where that accusation comes from, but I'd rather not play in an RP where the players carry a grudge against me simply for voicing an opinion over the heavily restricting storyline, simply because I was on the team opposing them.

[Mintaro]

What I was referring to was when you complained that I wouldn't let you on the ship. Edit - And a few other views you had on how other peoples characters should be acting.

Edit - sorry for the one liner, I wanted to get the main message up fast so that the misunderstanding was obliterated as fast as possible.

Granted I was annoyed with the complaining about the story line restrictions. But in that respect at least your complaints and arguments had a, perhaps valid ring? Even though the reason for the restrictions had been made plain.

And in regards to other various arguments you have had in this thread. You at least were willing to present different points of view and come to an agreement with the other rpers. Which is why I was cool with the idea of you coming back. You are most often, open to compromise.

[PhoenixFlame]

I had no problem with that, in fact, I never suspected you'd actually fall for it, and more expected Raiden to simply put his foot down and say no. I was merely pointing out the logical conclusion given a good party, and their previous record for allowing random people to join up.

Given all of the past "logical conclusion" pointing-out done by all of the other people, I didn't think anyone would have a problem with that.

Edit: Why, thank you Mintaro. However, I need to go back on the earlier post, it was out of impulse, as I really can't find myself having much more lasting interest in this. I apologise for that, continue on. No use dragging you all down if I can't find the creativity to make it good.

[TheBlindMime]

I don't mind if you return either, so more or less welcome back.

[Arhra]

Well PhoenixFlame, you know my view on the matter. As for Team Good not picking up your character, there is also the simple fact they were in quite a hurry to get the hell away. The grievances against Talkatz certainly are something that's interesting to develop. I am planning on going that way myself.

As for the thing with Talkatz, I feel it's being a bit drawn out. For Chikane, I am toying around with certain ideas. I may not execute them however.

[Dragonsbane]

... Nevermind then. I was afraid this would be the general response. I still don't know where that accusation comes from, but I'd rather not play in an RP where the players carry a grudge against me simply for voicing an opinion over the heavily restricting storyline, simply because I was on the team opposing them.

I'm fine with you coming back, Phoenix. Just ignore Mintaro and the rest of the Team Good members for now.

[GARUD]

I'm fine with her coming back. Just find a way to incorperate an interest. Also, Team Good dosent hate you FYI.

Welcome back.

[PhoenixFlame]

Sorry, but certain unforseeable circumstances make that impossible. I didn't think hard enough before posting. My mistake, and apologies.

Edit, Pyros: Not so much time, starting college and all, and the logistics of all the new characters would take a level of conciousness higher than I'm willing to contribute to an RP right now.

[Incendius]

Whats wrong? Is it something personal (wheirein i won't inquire further) or anything else?

[Astral Harmony]

It would be nice to have Koyuki back. I just don't think I or my characters will bond with the new evil characters.

Oh, and as for a great quote...

Tsubasa to Talkatz: "My lord, forgive me, but is there a possibility that science can do for Kurama Genkai what alcohol has failed to do for Tama and destroy you for eternity?"

[Dragonsbane]

Ah...Tama, epitome of the Drunken Master style of fighting.

Raikotsu: "Alcohol, eh? I must master its powers!"

[secretskull]

Brilliance AB, pure brilliance. And Raiden I think you missed my post.

[Incendius]

Just some information, if I make it so that people see the chorus of souls it stays out till I say otherwise and/or i get knocked unconscious, sort of like im holding it in when you cant see it and releasing it when you can.

[Dragonsbane]

Remind me again what the Chorus of Souls does...

[Incendius]

Absolutely nothing, scare tactic basically and its a reason why hes insane.

[Toastburner B]

I apologize for my on and off posting as of late. During this last week, I've been going the rounds with a stomach bug that doesn't want to go away. I'm still not over it, but I'm hoping I can at least fake it enough to function. So if I vanish again for a few days, you now know why.

[Dragonsbane]

By the way, secretskull...great post. *Thumbs up*

[Raiden]

Did Krylo put up a profile for his new character?

Maybe he did, and I missed it, or something...

And just so it's known, I wasn't against Phoenix coming back. Hell, I didn't want her to leave in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, the whole thing was a misunderstanding of the preset events, and was compounded by events that were unforeseen (my damn internet going out!) at the time of it happening.

So, if she ever wants to come back, I'm not saying she can't.

[Dragonsbane]

Yeah, I remember seeing it when Krylo first posted it...his character sheet is there somewhere.

[Krylo]

Raiden:

Also, Raiden, Yaburu is going to take a break for awhile after this. He'll pop up to do that thing we discussed and re-enter the RP at that time. With a few upgrades as that he'll be spending all the time until then training/improving himself. I'll PM the upgrades to you for approval.

Here's the alternate.

Name: Hando Konpaku
Side: Neutral, currently siding with good.
Race: Human
Age: 21
Appearance: Konpaku is a lithe wispy youth whose eyes are always closed and whose face is always serene, almost as if he is in a deep sleep, even in the most vicious of combat, and his moves alter between extremely fluid to extremely jerky, like a human body being pulled on puppet strings.
Weapons: Konpaku uses no weapons.
Special Skill: Astral manifestation. He can manifest his astral form into the real world into various forms--creating huge demonic beasts around his body, gatling guns from his hands, swords, etc. Further, he can pull his body along with his astral form, allowing him to do things like fly--and can leave his body behind making him invisible to anyone who isn't ALSO astrally projecting until he manifests himself onto the physical realm. However, despite his ability to remove his soul from his body, neither he or anyone else is certain what would happen if his body was destroyed as that he still uses it as an anchor to his world. (Basically, he has lots of abilities, including invisibility [but can't attack while invisible], however, his human body is just that--a human body. No special strengths and easily destroyed if you get to it when he's not there.)
History: Konpaku's name means, translated, Ghost Hand, and that isn't his birth name. Orphaned into a sect of spiritual monks, Konpaku was taught how to astrally project himself at a young age, but, unlike the monks, Konpaku wasn't happy merely being able to witness events that happened far beyond him. He wanted to alter them, and so he began seeking power. The power to manifest his fluid astral form onto the physical world, and, before long, he was stopping murders, saving the helpless, etc. all from the safety of his monastery. However, the monks were not happy about this, citing that power corrupts, and that his power had become too great. In the end, he was banished, but the monks were right. He kept on strengthing his manifestations, until his body was placed into a state of constant suspended animation, and merely drug about by his astral self... and his powers gave him unreal perception. With the ability to disconnect from his body and see everything, he saw how foolish and weak people could be, and he has taken it upon himself to fix that. By controlling them.
Hando Konpaku seeks to rule the world: However, Talkatz is in his way.
Extra: Konpaku isn't an idiot, and isn't going to reveal that he's in this for anything other than altruism until Talkatz is dead or his hand is forced. Also, Drak might be able to learn astral projetion/manifestation, but it'll be extremely draining for him. Extremely draining.

Edit: Almost forgot, while he CAN do ranged things pretty decently, every projectile that leaves his 'astral body' is basically ripping chunks out of his soul and throwing them at people. Not only extremely draining for him, but also painful.

Edit 2: Power needs better explanation. He can't manifest things out of nothing, what he CAN do is shape his 'soul' or 'astral self' into various shapes and physically manifest it. His soul/astral self is always around his body, though, because it's how his body moves in the first place.

Seeming as you missed it. I also apparently forgot how to spell his name between then and now.

I assumed you had seen it and that your not saying anything meant you had no problems, as that's usually how it goes with these things.

Edit: Almost forgot, he's siding with evil instead of good right now due to people (mostly good guys) saying that evil was now outnumbered and wah wah with people leaving and I should make him bad instead of good... and it doesn't change his character concept much/at all to do so.

[Raiden]

Yeah, I remember accepting it now. I guess I just spaced on it for a minute there. Thanks for reposting it.

[Arhra]

Well, time for a few random thoughts of mine.

Firstly, I'll just go on a little with my mini-rant about teleportation. We should probably assume it's not too common, otherwise things can get a bit crazy. Perhaps mostly the return to pre-prepared location type? The general thing at present seems to be that with also individual teleportation being a little more flexible.

I actually was considering having one of Kirakiri's minions having the ability to summon up a sort of gate demon. Essentially it binds the demon into a host creature, twisting it's flesh into a living portal that connects to other gate demons. To be fair, it would probably have to have a limited open time (plus the demon can't travel through itself, or other gate demons). Just thought I'd best check if it's okay first.

Finally, I was toying around with how best to handle Sila and I had an idea that I think could work well. It simply revolves around actually treating her fairly well and drawing her back-history out of her by opening into conversation. At the very least it would confuse Sila immensely. Kirakiri's got a devious, devious mind in some ways. He'll have several weeks to do it - that journey to Europe's going to take quite a while. Any opinions on this?

[secretskull]

If he can think up a touching past, in which the death of his brother caused him to turn to Talakataz for a resurection, then he's all set.

[Dragonsbane]

Raikotsu is going to be extremely polite and chivalrous to Sila, because she's alright, for a Team Good ally. Plus, he's a Bishounen, he's obligated to show some charm. ;)

[Mintaro]

What did "Freebirth stravag" mean? I figured you thought I was immitating a charcter from a book or something but upon searching online I couldn't find anything that related to it other then some sort of insult in battletech.

[Dragonsbane]

Good job on your research then, "Freebirth Stravag" is an insult used by the Clans in Battletech, who are genetically engineered to be better than normal humans. It pretty much translates to "inferior scum".

[PyrosNine]

Yes, except for the Fact that given natural genetic development, Many freebirth's can kick Clan asses. Go Horse! (Refferring to book)

[Dragonsbane]

...and by the same token, Kurama Genkai's drunk, human, grandfather killed Raikotsu's daddy.

Well, I won't be able to post until later today. See you then, chaps!

[Incendius]

I'm not sure right now if I want to continue this or not, I'm feeling some of the same things that krylo was before when team evil was infiltrating the temple because apparently nothing I do can get by Raiktosu since he senses the wind where I move. So even though I move faster than a human can see, which is extremely fast if you spend time thinking it over, he will catch me.

It seems like team evil has all the super powerful people it needs and though it has less members then team good, it doesn't seem like i'm needed.


Edit: Especially so seing as I had intended this character to fight alone against all of team good.

[Raiden]

Well, unless you intend to fight Raikotsu, then you don't need to worry about it.

If he's fighting Team Good, Raikotsu is going to have his attention split in so many directions, unless he's in a one-on-one duel of course, that he won't be worrying about sensing moving air, because if he tries it in the middle of a battefield, he'll basically just sense a maelstrom of constant movement.

And he's been generally good so far about keeping it under control. The monks thing was over the top, but that's water under the bridge. As long as he doesn't do anything obscenely extreme, then he's good.

[Incendius]

Alright im not leaving, I was just a little annoyed last night, id rather not go into it.

Edit: Im going to post when mintaro does as Chi since he said he wanted Ishi and Sendo for something.

[Mintaro]

In my opinion, Rock lee said it best. "Even if you can read my movements with your eyes, your body dose not have the speed to react to my Taijutsu." Raikotsu is not faster then Sendo, because that is Sendo's ability, to be faster then anyone. Just like Garud could never hurt Raikotsu with a wind spell, sense that is Raikotsu's ability. No one could out muscle Ishi or Sanjuro. Because that is their ability.

Now being stronger or faster of course doesn't mean victory or defeat, it just means that they cannot be beaten that way. Now if say Tsubasa set up her wires in a hall way and Sendo ran down it, its likely he would be sliced into a thousand pieces. Thus turning Sendo's speed into a weakness. Being a daemon or a human has nothing to do with it. Everyone got two abilities. And unless your ability is the same as someones, then they are better then you in that way.

Just like how, if Vance had gone all crazy super form, and fought against Koyuki's true form. He'd get his ass kicked, sence, his form isn't one of his abilities. It's just a side effect of what he is, Just like enhanced natural speed and strength is a side effect of being a daemon. But if being a daemon over rid other peoples abilities then there wouldn't be a point in the human option.

[PyrosNine]

Say, how would you describe the Island's culture? Huts or Houses, and what kind of style? Greek? Roman? Japanese? Indian? Eh, It'd be helpful to know what kind of marketplace I'm going into.

[Mintaro]

Well its almost all Japanese style buildings. Unusually though there are lots of huts mixed in with larger houses. Its not uncommon to see a large manor with a hovel next to it. The city was built a little at a time and has gone through a lot of different changes. The only consistency is the bright colors. Everyone wears bright colors, just as all the houses are designed with bright colors.

The populous consists of Humans, Daemons, and every mixture of the two. There are a few European descendants in the city, though most of them are farmers. The agriculture consists of a large variety of foods as well. Potato's and corn grow on the island, as well as wheat. Foods which would be considered exotic in this time period.

There is virtually no crime. Crime usually consists of the occasional drunken brawl. The usual Daemon/human racism is almost obliterated on the island. There are a few who do there hating in secret. But 'hate crimes' are several punished. And after 80 years of the sevear punishment almost all of the bad eggs have been smashed.

The volcano is my favorite part of the island. They have a system set up where long ago to protect the islands inhabitants, water daemons were forced to create the river going around it. Well once the power of steam was realized they used earth daemons to dig lava channels, and used fire daemons to control the lava, directing them to there complex buildings, which pipe the steam and pressurize it so that they can use it to turn various machines. Mostly grinders for grain. Its much more effective then wind or water wheels sense they can control the volcano with the vast amount of fire daemons on the island.

And as to the cooled lava, the earth daemons lug it all back up. and insert it back into the volcano in a controlled manner, allowing it to melt and return to lava once again.

[Dragonsbane]

Firstly, reread my post. He did indeed detect what Sendo had done, and moved ALMOST before Sendo was back in his chair. Sendo still moved faster than him.

[edit]
Well, unless you intend to fight Raikotsu, then you don't need to worry about it.

If he's fighting Team Good, Raikotsu is going to have his attention split in so many directions, unless he's in a one-on-one duel of course, that he won't be worrying about sensing moving air, because if he tries it in the middle of a battefield, he'll basically just sense a maelstrom of constant movement.

And he's been generally good so far about keeping it under control. The monks thing was over the top, but that's water under the bridge. As long as he doesn't do anything obscenely extreme, then he's good.

Precisely correct, sensing moving air would be utterly useless in a battle. As for the monks, Raikotsu had planned that out, and taken them by surprise. A fully prepared room full of monks that detected his approach would have been an entirely different affair.


Pyros, fighting alone against all of Team Good is a very BAD idea, just like it was a bad idea for Garud to try taking on all of Team Evil by himself.

Mintaro...can we give the technology a rest? Just a small one? Before Team Good starts building Imperial-Class Star Destroyers, I mean. :p
Besides, how do you grow wheat on a Japanese island at sea level? Wouldn't the terrain consist more of swamps, lowlands, wetlands, perhaps some verdant jungle? Also, wasn't corn discovered in the Americas, which European settlers hadn't even visited by this time? Unless, of course, a tribe of Native Americans riding Earth Demons somehow migrated to Vance's island to join the Happy-Funtime-Racially-Diverse-Community dwelling there.

[Mintaro]

Because yes, a steam powered grinder, is SO much more complicated then a water wheel grinder. Same principle different power source.

Also,
-the Edo period ended in 1868
-the industrial revolution, which began with the steam engine, started in 1712.

And on the land, Vance's grandfather has been having daemons work on the island for over 900 years. That is more then enough time to teraform. Especially when you have the very spirits that make up the land working for you.

And as to corn, potato's, and wheat. Vance's mother brought them with her when she came back. because corn was in America, which Columbus (whom wasn't the first) got there in 1492. I'm sure some corn made its way to Europe by 400 years later.

[Dragonsbane]

Well, a water-powered grinder can be powered with something as simple as a waterwheel, or perhaps a windmill could be used. A waterwheel requires no gears, if done properly, simply drawing kinetic energy from the natural current of a river. A steam-powered one, on the other hand, runs steam through pipes into turbines that run pistons, so I wouls say it IS far more complicated. Oh, and what is wrong with growing rice? It would be far more suitable to the climate...unless Vance, like Pyros the Fire-God, somehow rules his own empire of elemental demons.

Furthermore, if they all work for Vance's grandfather...isn't he EVIL?

We aren't in the end of the Edo period, this is the FEUDAL ERA, sometime in the Middle Ages. This is NOT taking place in 1868!

[edit] Oh, and immigration was strictly limited between Europe and Japan, even in the Edo period. Vance's mother couldn't have visited Europe in order to buy corn, because she is Japanese, and would have been DEPORTED.

[Mintaro]

1868 WAS the end of the feudal era for japan. Japan reached its Feudal period in 1192 and lasted till 1868. The middle ages began in about 0476 ended in about 1453. Now if we keep in mind the fact that we have the steam engine which was made in 1712 that would put us in the beginning of Europe's industrial revolution. Which makes sense, considering the time of magic is ending and the time of technology is beginning.

Also, Feudal era doesn't refer to a specific section on the global time line like the middle ages dose. It refers a country using the feudal system as its form of government. Which lasted, in japan, until 1868.

These are all FACTS, you can look them up in your encyclopedia or online.

[TheBlindMime]

Zing, its funny cause he used facts against you.

[Dragonsbane]

Yeah, that WOULD go both ways. Except that Raiden didn't set this RP in the year 1868. In order for demons to be roaming the land and wreaking destruction without encountering Imperial armies at every turn, this would have to be taking place much, much farther back in Japan's history, when Japan was more simple villages of the type we've encountered so far.

Speaking of simple, I'm going to assume Sanjuro has grown to be his brother's equal in combat. If Ishi can kick Sanny-boy's ass, so can we. Oh, wait, we decided NOT to, instead manipulating him using the woman he loved, and made him attack his own teammate. Won't happen again, though. So, like I said before, if Ishi can beat Sanjuro, so can the other combative members of Team Evil.

[TheBlindMime]

DB does everyone have to spell out every aspect of their character for you to accept anything about them. Cause all I ever see you do is nitpick, let me explain: Sanjuro is not yet Ishi's equal, as such team evil has never really had a problem with sanjuro. If you remember in our initial duel he never layed a hand upon you.

His changing point just came up, the woman he felt love towards betrayed that love and he's realized that the only people he ever beat were not on equal ground with him. So now he's going to train to fight with swords instead of just swinging them wildly. And in true anime fashion he will improve inhumanly fast.

But Sanjuro has and will always be physically stronger since thats his power.

[edit] And by the by what if anything does that have to do with you being wrong about the technology around us?

[Mintaro]

Oh so this is happening Pre-recorded history? So before the feudal system even existed? Before there was writting or even a spoken language to pass down stories of Daemons? Because as far as I know there isn't an ancient story in japan about a man defeating the king of Daemons with a magic sword, and then his ancient descendent (of another 1000 years later, still pre-histroy mind you) ACTUALLY defeating him. With technology everywhere.

So then your admitting its a fantasy world and we can have whatever technology we want. Oh good, so long as your in agreement.

[Dragonsbane]

You know, if Shades are creatures of shadow, couldn't Ishumo just control one with his powers and use it to teleport out?

Oh, no...you misinterpret me. I am saying none of those things. There is a feudal system, Raiden clearly stated that the RP takes place in feudal Japan. Jjudging from HIS posts...not yours...the RP is taking place near the beginning of the feudal era. If you want to take up the lack of such a story with HIM, then be my guest.

[edit] Also, there was no current demon mythos at the end of the Edo period. Much like dragons aren't commonly held to exist in today's world. Since there are entire orders of monks dedicated to protecting the legs of a DEMON king from DEMONS, while DEMONIC armies roam the land, and simple peasant villages are destroyed by, of course, DEMONS, which are ruled by the well-known and greatly-feared DEMON king Talkatz, besides the fact that DEMONS are absolutely everywhere...it is obvious that this is not happening in the 1860's, at the end of the Edo period.

[secretskull]

Just as I thought, evesdropping Is the best way to pick a fight.

[Dante]

Hey, that's how Ishumo got sacrificed, didn't you? :p

[Toastburner B]

I'm afraid I'm going to have to humbly bow out of his RP. This stupid stomach bug I have still hasn't gone away, and being sick on-and-off has caused me to miss almost an entire chapter. I hate to quit a still running RP, but I have been out of action too long to catch up.

Feel free to use Akimoto as an NPC, or to just have him wander off to never return. Your choice, Raiden.

Again, I am sorry, but until I get over this bug, I can't keep up with a relatively fast moving RP like this.

[Raiden]

Well, sorry to see you go, Toast.

And guys, we're ending the fight now. I don't want to see anymore big discussion battles.

I was wondering why DB sent me a PM asking around what time this is.

Think of it as an alternate early feudal era. It's pretty much the same feudal era that we had, with a feudal system and a big emphasis on sword fighting, but it's alternate because magic is real and there's some pretty advanced steam machinery running around.

And I think the steam machines would work because, if you've got a volcano, you might as well use it.

[Dragonsbane]

For those currently threatening Ishumo, don't you mean, "Why shouldn't I kill you?". I mean, it seems a bit silly to ask someone for a reason to end their life when they don't want to die.

By the way, nice job secretskull...you've improved greatly as both a poster and as an RPer, and Ishumo seems to be on his way to becoming a much stronger character.

As for the volcano, I suppose if we have mechs, the other side can have machinery too....issue is resolved, then.

However, one question remains. If the island is ruled by Vance's evil grandfather, then why are his servants attending to Team Good's needs?

[PyrosNine]

It appears to me that Vance's grandfather is supposedly "dead." Either that, or when Vance took the reins, he abolished the evilness. Or something.

[Raiden]

From what I have read, I don't think Vance's grandfather was always evil. I'm pretty sure he left the island to whoever he did and then left, and turned evil at a later point.

[Krylo]

The way I read the backstory is this: Vance's grandfather was bad. Vance's mom was bad. Vance was bad. Then Vance's mom 'killed' Vance's grandfather by tossing him into the volcano, and Vance killed his mom. Vance then remained bad until something (I forget what) happened, and then he made the island good. His grandfather survived because, unlike Vance, he has many immortality organs, and one of them got caught on a rock, allowing him to regenerate, and he then went into hiding.

Vance then fixed the island after becoming good.

[Mintaro]

1). Chi asked "who are you and why should I kill you?" If he gives Chi a reason he should kill him. Chi will not kill him, because he will judge him a creature truly obedient to Talkatz and those that serve him. Chi is going to be asking that a lot to random civilians too. Needless to say he's going to be killing a lot of people.

Remember Chi is not a stable entity. He's not going to be very logical sometimes.

2) Your right Krylo Vance was pretty much still evil until he left the island and met a monk/hermit. After talking with the man for a long time he realized that what he had been taught to beleive, that everything in his life was to be for himself (basically to be completely selfish). Was wrong. He mended his ways and using the knowledge he had gathered he set up a society that he felt worked. So far it has, sense his grandfather had wanted to rule over a beautiful land he had manipulated everything until it was to his liking (this was during the rule of Talkatz). And it has been kept that way sense.

And I wasn't sure how big to make the island. So I made it large enough that it would take two days on horseback to cross. I figured that was vague enough to be large, without me actually giving a size. Sense it isn't based off of a real island. Its more of a small country really. I can try and specify it if you guys want.


Edit - Don't worry secret skull, no matter what you do you'll get through this pretty easily, I have both contingencies planned out in a generic way so as to let you live.


Also on the subject of dealing with the castle. You are going to be getting full access to everything there. Weapons, armors, cloathing, different foods, women, the plethora of natural hot springs, even the variouse trainers in the castle if you want. Its a chance to refit your characters with anything you may have lost or broken. Don't worry team evil, there are no magic weapons or armors, just the regular kind. And no guns.

I figure we'll probably be on the island for a couple days. So I figured that was a good excuse for Team evil to get a head start on retreiving the body. And sense Krylo really wants evil to try and steal the legs back, might I recomend Krylo's character, Arha's character, and maybe one of the kimono's. They would all be able to blend in the best.

[Krylo]

And since Krylo really wants evil to try and steal the legs back
Actually, Krylo would like lots of in game time to pass by with little happening as possible, so that Yaburu has more time to train and get stronger while he's resting.

However, Krylo's character has an agenda, and that agenda involves resurrecting Talkatz as soon as possible.

I don't expect his full agenda (or even a good part of it) to be allowed, but it will become apparent at some point during the RP. I don't want to ruin things, though.

Edit: Also, Konpaku is not really as effective as he was against Chi.

However, Chi, I'm guessing, wasn't expecting him to be capable of that, and he was very very close to Konpaku.

I think of it like you're up in some armless guy's face and he suddenly materializes a fist already in mid-swing on the way to your face. If you know he can materialize fists you'll probably be able to dodge or throw up a defense or something. If you're a few feet away you'll probably be able to get over the shock fast enough to move.

However, if you're right there and only have a split second to defend yourself against something you couldn't have possibly been expecting, it's likely you're going to take the shot.

In other words... if Konpaku didn't have the body of a young teenage human who is also sleeping, he probably wouldn't have been able to toss Chi around. Still fight him to a stand still, and maybe defeat a few others who just aren't suited to fighting someone like him, but not slap someone around like that.

[GARUD]

Goodbye toastburner. Good luck with that stomach bug.

Anyway, I'm just wondering how Team Evil will get the next part. The place seems quite well defendable from the likes of Evil.

EDIT: Dont spoil it for me.
EDIT2: I mean dont tell me how you will do it.

[Raiden]

DB knows one of the main defenses of the next piece, so have fun with that.

And if you want to slow it down, you could spend time searching for info on where it might be. Truthfully, no one on Team Evil really knows where the torso is. Kirakiri's sources could only say that it left the continent.

[Mintaro]

Well I hadn't been planning on an invasion of the island, but if thats how it goes, its how it goes. I'm drawing a map, actually I'm almost done, and once I can get to a scanner I'll put it up. Might as well give some bassis on troops and the like now.

Fistly, there are very few roads. Sense traveling here is usually extreamly safe. There are however a lot of well organised patrols. The patrols are not very large, usually no more then 5 or so troops of humans, daemons, and half daemons. The farther from a major city the less trained the troops are. Which is not how it would be run in a normal country. In the rare course of an invasion everyone is suposed to move to the closest major city. Then if possible move towards the Capitol city. Which is very very large by the by.

Every major city is lightly gaurded, but contains a Huge well trained militia. The majority of the islands populus are trained to fight. Each small settlment usually has one really strong warrior in it (like a boss for a dungeon). This person is usually someone who has been training for the tournaments so that they can become a gaurdian lord. The major cities have a lot more of those types of people. Also all the Gaurdian lords mansions are located within major cities. None of them have 'country housing.'

The forest is the only real place where natural danger still exists. Unless you count an active volcano. The forest has the only 'feral' daemons, and there all pretty pissy. The lumber settlements are full of strong workers and warriors, as well as the Volcano encampments.

[Raiden]

And like AB said about his minions, they aren't going to surprise the island. So they're probably going to be met with hard force.

[Mintaro]

Well, actually, odds are they would surprise the island, at least long enough to get a base set up in one of the smaller villages. Though after the killed one patrol they would know something was up. Well after a little while at least.

[Astral Harmony]

The Orchamech Chiyo is piloting through some unknown means will be a Boss in itself. Nothing too tough but made of stronger stuff than the regular troops. Additionally, you may wanna lessen the power of your attacks because none other than little Chiyo herself is mounting the bone, muscle, and metal contraption. It has similar weapons to Kiyomi's mech troops (machine guns, cannons, flamethrowers, and various melee weapons) and shouldn't be all that tough with some teamwork.

Additionally, Yuna's gone and done something particularly morbid. This time, it's homunculi that resemble Chiyo. While this is bad enough, it's the application of these things that make it more hazardous to fight them. Essentially, a little girl copy can be defeated easily. So instead, Yuna's turned them into horribly effective walking bombs, filled with non-elemental destructive magic with an really short fuse. Talk about bundles of explosive energy!

Also, notice I said non-elemental. That means it's not a fiery explosion which means Pyros and other fire-elemental creatures aren't immune to the damage.

[Dragonsbane]

By non-elemental, you mean that the explosion would be a shockwave of kinetic force?

Anyway, Raikotsu would rather choke on broken glass than attack a well-fortified island of demons with "crushing force". After all, like Konpaku said, why risk losing when you might not have to?

AB, can you tell me more about the Orchamech?

[PyrosNine]

Honestly, who the hell let's a child man a freakin WMD? No wonder team evil's evil. No one's taking responsibility!

As for Redwing's toys, those will be interesting to deal with.

[Mintaro]

Ya'll don't be afraid to check out the hotsprings and take advantage of the variouse other perks of being honored guests in a kingdom.

[Astral Harmony]

Yeah, like a violent blast of kinetic force. Usually the kind that can knock someone up and away, crushing bones and tearing through flesh. Chiyo bombs won't be like WMD but are definitely lethal if you're pretty close. When their eyes start glowing, you don't wanna be close. The "fuse" is their brains, so by killing the brain and decapitating the head, you can "defuse" the bomb. It's probably best to think of them like those Flood creatures in Halo that explode and those squids come out and they set off grenades nearby (which pisses me off), except that those Chiyo bomb bursts will be somewhat more dangerous to offset the fact that grenades don't exist and the Flood doesn't exist either.

The Orchamech is obviously a construct that could be mistaken for a monster. They...well, they're rather large, the size of a standard village house. Mostly, they consist neatly of lean and shiny red muscle, held together by large, exposed bones, with their metal armaments extending from tactical areas. The bone formations and strong muscular control keep the weapons in place. There's a "socket" usually positioned in the front where a pilot takes their place. Suction keeps the person mounted in the socket and by some means of "mind linking" between the Orchamech and its pilot, the pilot can control the Orchamech. While an Orchamech can function on its own, it seems to lack confident judgment in its own abilities, and will flee from even single, unarmed opponents, providing its own support fire as it escapes if not under control.

Since I plan to have Chiyo pilot any and all Orchamechs that do enter combat early on (Yuna will have her own specialized homunculi pilot them later), the first Orchamech battles will be against single enemies while future battles against Yuna's homunculus-piloted Orchamechs will be encountered in pairs or greater. I also have ideas for other minions for Yuna to come along during the revealing of her horrible, horrible plot. The dual edge wielding Hunters, the magically inclined Seekers, and the multi-talented Sweepers specifically. I hate having so many ideas.

[Dragonsbane]

Ah, I see. Currently, I just want to bring out the Air Demon warriors of the High Hunt.

[Arhra]

I'm wondering about those homonculi. Are they recognisably artificial or not? They seem to be fairly life-like but I'm not quite certain. Aslo, I'm thinking of having Kirakiri growing a little suspicious of Yuna - he's naturally suspicious of anything he's never heard of before. By suspicious I mean mainly wanting to find out more. I thought I'd ask what kind of stuff he'd be able to find out by asking around a little.

Now, I've made some very basic write-ups for some of Kirakiri's minions. I want to make certain they sound fine before introducing them.


Sachiko - the offspring of Kirakiri and the ancient Ikioitosendo no Oni, a demon with power over life and death. Perhaps the most powerful of the demon allies Kirakiri can call upon, she retains a measure of the abilities of both her parents. She can bring an ally back from the very brink of death and will her enemies to die.

Gekido - An oni of destruction and one of the most skilled of Mizukyo's warshapers, fighting literally makes Gekido stronger. Gekido feeds off battle - his power growing with bloodshed and rage. The longer a battle continues, the more dangerous he becomes.

Moon - A half demon monk. Her shapechanging powers are relatively weak and so she developed the Diamond Path school which has gained several followers in Mizukyo. This focuses shapechanging power into pursuing a single form towards perfection rather than changing forms. Essentially, she's extremely fast, strong and tough.

Takashi - A (mostly) human spellcaster. Amongst other things, he can use his magic to change into animals and knows the rituals to bind the rare Shinkei no Oni into corporeal hosts, allowing travel between them.


Sachiko probably needs the most clarification. With her ability to command things to die, it's generally strongest when you're close to her and if she has eye contact. It's much weaker if she's not looking at you. Also, the death aspect encompasses weakening foes, athough to a much lesser degree. With her command over life, she can heal, temporarily bolster allies and even revive the recently dead (very difficult and sometimes simply can't be done). A side trick I was considering is temporary revival of the dead to fight for her - I might remove it if it seems too much.

She can shift through aspects - fully death aspect, life aspect or combined. In a pure aspect, her opposed abilities are virtually non-existent. She's strongest in her true form, but she almost never assumes it as it has it's own certain weaknesses (similiar to Koyuki).

[Dragonsbane]

Raikotsu is suspicious of all powerful entities he doesn't know of...though, admittedly, he doesn't know quite as much about this world as the others, due to his race departing long ago for their own "cities in the sky". Someday soon, Team Evil will get to visit those cities. His own minions tend towards types, rather than individual entities, though he is somewhat reluctant to call on them...especially since he has not yet avenged his father's death, and fully inherited command of those armies.

Gekido: Does he lose that power at the end of the battle? Also, if he is difficult to kill or incapacitate, then his abilities might be a bit overpowered.

I'm worried that we're going to get into a contest of who can have the most powerful minions, so I'll ask you all to please keep it under control. We don't NEED that many troops.

[Arhra]

Yes, it wears off afterwards. It would be crazy if it didn't. I should have probably worded that a little clearer. It might persist for a little while after each battle, but that's it. He's intended to be a berserker type. The best way to deal with him is either get him early on, or it is also possible to make his power run out by depriving him of an open battle/bloodshed. In something like a huge pitched battle, he'd be extremely nasty after a while but he also tends to become more reckless.

For Kirakiri's minions I'm keeping them back to very small numbers. Save under special circumstances, it's highly unlikely he'd have any more than a score of warriors out at any one time. Most of the time it would be less than a dozen.

[Raiden]

The homonculi are off-colored. Kind of a black-and-white version of the originals. So that you can tell the difference in combat.

And I'm not really like the "Ultimate Death" thing. I can stand having something where she steals the vitality of her target, making them weaker, but simply having the power to end a person's life instantly, no matter the fact that they have to be close to do it, seems a bit godmoddish. I'll allow that she can make others weaker, judging in how close she is, but no insta-death.

[Arhra]

I'm not saying it's some unstoppable, irresistable force. It's mostly intended to serve as a way to send various peons to meet their maker. Against the members of Team Good, it wouldn't very effective. Unless the person it's being used against acts stupidly of course. It's the old thing of the heroes have strong wills so they can resist it (although it's not very dramatic if they just shrug it off all the time). Even if it succeeds, it doesn't take much to replace 'dead' with 'in some sort of a coma' or something similar (ideally that shouldn't come up more than once/at all).

Also, it is something that requires concentration so she can't exactly go, "Poke, you're dead." right in the middle of a pitched melee. Consider it a little like a Tekken Semehorobosu that instead tends to kill people and leave buildings intact...

[Astral Harmony]

Yes, aside from clothing, weapons, and other things that weren't made like the homunculi, the mass-produced versions lack coloration. As for the rare ones that have the appropriate coloration and are exceptionally more difficult to kill, Yuna's too arrogant to make them after either Good or Evil characters to function as spies. Also, she's not stupid. It'd be no small miracle if one of those homunculi could be mistaken as the real person. The reasons why are that:

- They do not speak. They can't even scream or yell in pain.
- They do not eat or sleep or use the bathroom. They rarely even sit down.
- While they simulate breathing, they do not actually use the air they inhale or exhale. (essentially, this allows them to fight underwater indefinitely)
- They express no emotions whatsoever. Not even so much as a smile or frown.

So someone with as much feeling in his character as Sanjuro would easily be recognized as either the real deal or a homunculus.

Oh, Lazy Man! Got something to help you RP your soul stealing. It's not all that good, though. Aside from Mika's own Pit Warriors, Pit Fighters, and the nasty Orchamechs, the soldiers and characters I control are either humans or half demons that were originally humans. I'm not sure if you can drain half demon souls or not, but if you can...well, more power to you. It's not that I'm trying to restrict your power. It's just that I don't see how any of the Kimono's troops other than those pit demons could be demons.

[Raiden]

I'm not saying it's some unstoppable, irresistable force. It's mostly intended to serve as a way to send various peons to meet their maker. Against the members of Team Good, it wouldn't very effective. Unless the person it's being used against acts stupidly of course. It's the old thing of the heroes have strong wills so they can resist it (although it's not very dramatic if they just shrug it off all the time). Even if it succeeds, it doesn't take much to replace 'dead' with 'in some sort of a coma' or something similar (ideally that shouldn't come up more than once/at all).

Also, it is something that requires concentration so she can't exactly go, "Poke, you're dead." right in the middle of a pitched melee. Consider it a little like a Tekken Semehorobosu that instead tends to kill people and leave buildings intact...

We'll run with in on a probationary status. I'll allow it, but the first time you abuse it, it's gone. Just use common sense, and it should be fine.

[Dragonsbane]

Alright, Team Evil has the basic outlines of its plan. I'm asking that none of the Team Good members suddenly start having "bad feelings" again, including Garud, that warns them of the deception, or suddenly realize that "OMIGAWSHDATSKIRAKIRI1111!!" unless he does something to give himself away.

[Darth SS]

So, where is Drak during all of this?

I'm still confused on that one.

[Krylo]

In his room on Vance Island, I'd guess.

Also: I'd suggest following DB's suggestion to not magically know things, because I have some plans with Konpaku's abilities that will make your characters hate themselves forever if direct combat begins anywhere public.

Edit: On second thought... I'm going to be doing it anyway... just because I'm an evil evil prick.

[Arhra]

Hmm, seems I wasn't careful enough in my words. I included the 'prepared locations' for a reason. Kirakiri was talking about the spell that summons gate demons. It wouldn't allow him to move straight to the island because there's no gate demon currently there. He'll have to get there the old fashioned way by flying or swimming.

However, it does allow a rapid means of exiting the area if he brings Takashi along with him or some sort of talisman that can call up one.

Well, it looks like the easiest thing for Kirakiri to do would be pull out his geisha impersonation. The trickiest part will probably be assuming an appropriate identity to enter the castle and then finding out which geisha is assigned to Kurama. Oh, then finding a quiet, out of the way spot to find out enough about her to pull off a successful imitation. Quite convenient that there's all the preparations for a festival going on - the organised confusion should cover his tracks nicely.

Just checking, but I'm fairly sure that the legs are in Kurama's room, right?

[Raiden]

No, the legs are still on the ship. And the ship has a bunch of demons/half-demons/humans milling around it because of the festival, so that might be too much out in the open to go after right at the moment. The only thing of value Kurama has in his room is the Raigaki, but since you're a demon, you won't even be able to pick it up, so it's not worth stealing.

But you have a chance to sneak up on a big enemy, so it's not something you really want to pass up.

[Dragonsbane]

Except that Raikotsu told Kirakiri not to go after Kurama. "Stealing the legs is paramount, we are counting on you." and all that.

[Raiden]

That would make it a wee bit harder.

Takin doesn't want anyone on his ship, especially when he's repairing stuff. If you go on there, be VERY sneaky. I mean super sneaky. I already explained why you don't want to mess with Takin.

[Dragonsbane]

Yeah, yeah...Kirakiri should be plenty sneaky, but can he distract Takin in Geisha form if necessary?

[Raiden]

Not unless she's a love android built for the single purpose of pleasure.

Yeah, Takin's a techno-phile. But really, who here is surprised?

[Incendius]

Ill post as soon as something happens for Sendo, Ishi and Chi to do, just letting you know im not out of the rp.

[Dragonsbane]

Not unless she's a love android built for the single purpose of pleasure.

Yeah, Takin's a techno-phile. But really, who here is surprised?

I'm entirely unsurprised.

Yes, Kirakiri could look like, and even perform the functions of, a love android.

[Arhra]

Yes, I'd go for the old subtlety in straightforwardness approach. Find out if any members of Team Good are outside the castle/busy somewhere, steal their appearance and meet Takin. Then basically go, "Hey Takin, wassup?", wait for Takin to turn his back and be off guard then give him a murderectomy (quietly!). Find the legs and then if he has any extra time, completely trash the airship.

Kirakiri's thorough - if he subdues Takin, there's absolutely no reason why he should leave him alive. He won't do something like just leave him to die either - he'll cut his throat, break his neck or make certain he's dead in some other manner.

Of course, Kirakiri will probably make the assumption that Kurama has the legs with him. Unless he asks around a bit and realises that no-one saw anyone take anything anything large enough to be the legs out of the ship.

[Mintaro]

Well remember, your a shape changer, turn into a mouse and have a side adventure inside the castle where your fighting cats. That would be amusing and progressive.

[Raiden]

Well, not wanting to delve into super restrictions again, but it was made clear a LONG time ago that Takin was meant to stay alive. So, if chances are that your character wouldn't leave him alive, then I probably wouldn't do that.

And don't forget that Takin is both crazy AND paranoid. The moment you cut him, he's going to pull the string on the belts of grenades that are wrapped around his body. And not only with the ship be gone, but you too.

[Dragonsbane]

...he has a belt of grenades wrapped around his body? Arhra, do you think Kirakiri could survive that? Killing Takin AND blowing up his ship would be a great blow to Team Good.

See, this is why Lord Chi isn't part of the official Team Evil, shapeshifters have to be both competent and sane to be fully useful.

[Arhra]

Actually, I was toying with the idea of killing Takin, hijacking the airship and crashing it into the castle. Obviously, Kirkairi would have someone else carting the legs away before doing this. And yes, I think Kirakiri could probably survive an explosion although I'd imagine it would be quite painful and the noise would cause quite a problem.

What kind of maniac would walk around with grenades of early gunpowder on their person anyway? That stuff's really unstable. What if he stayed too near the boiler or something else hot for too long and set it off? Besides, an assassin style killing wouldn't even give Takin time to react - it would be stab, dead. Kirakiri wouldn't take chances - he has plenty of time to wait to catch Takin completely off guard.

I do have a point to raise though. Restrictions are something that you should be careful about. How is it in any way important whether Takin lives or dies? Other transportation can be found if necessary.

If I devise a virtually flawless plan that there's really no way for Takin to come out of aside from a ludicrous amount of sheer dumb luck, should he survive? If Kirakiri discovers an opportunity like this one, he'd be a fool not to take it. It would cripple his enemy's main source of mobility in one fell swoop. If he failed in assassinating a single human on his own when all the advantages belong to him, he'd look like a total incompetent.

[Raiden]

Yes, Takin has his entire body strapped with explosives. Plus he has those automatic guns hidden under his clothing, and a cannon of sorts on his shoulder. This guy is crazy paranoid. He likes to blow shit up.

Now, if it was completely flawless, then I would have to say that Takin would be dead. But with the vast mix of sentients on that island, it wouldn't be too hard to find another person that's big on technology.

My question is, how would Kirakiri know how to fly the ship? Takin is the only one capable of even getting it off the ground. If you kill Takin, the ship is pretty much going to stay intact because I seriously doubt you'll figure out how to even start up the engines. But then you'll probably blow it up, we build a new one, and I now go after you with a vengeance.

[Mintaro]

We are talking about a city with a massive population but that is larger then it has people to fill for defensive reasons. Also this is a place where, even though everyone knows how to fight (to a limited degree for the most part), everyone is also fairly complacent and unexpecting unless the alarm is raised. Now sense we have a small army landing on the northernish shore (I should get that map up) that means that within at most two days the alarm is going to be raised. At the point the alarm is raised there is going to be a MASSIVE influx of people. Sense all the villages and towns are supposed to head to the major cities, and if possible head to the capitol city. Now at this point the militia will be organized and there will be a lot more guards to worry about. Now this can be an advantage or disadvantage depending on how you use it.


And also, Chi is a very effective shape changer, its just that he isn't very good at disguising himself as anyone. But sense he is completely red no matter what form he takes that isn't much of a problem for him.

[Dragonsbane]

Well, if by "I go after you with a vengeance", you mean "Kurama will go after you with a vengeance", then that makes it all the more desireable,

Who says a small army is landing on the Northern shore? If you think that is the extent of my evil plans, then you shall be sorely disappointed.

[Mintaro]

*shrug* whatever

[Dragonsbane]

Windspeakers are an unusual breed of Air Demon, the other varieties respecting them for their extremely close connection to the winds, which provides them with a faint air of mystery. It is said, accurately, that they can hear the winds with the delicate-seeming membranes of their finned outer ears, and they serve as both priests and support mages in the Air Demon culture.

The spell Raikotsu used to communicate with Tsubasa was actually a Windspeaker discipline. They are experts at this sort of trick, and make excellent long-range communicators. Their magic, though in some ways less powerful, is more "natural" than Raikotsu's, and this close connection to their element allows them to transport others when they turn into wind. This particular Windspeaker is here to transport Kirakiri, and whichever minion he needs to set up his speedy escape route, to the island.

[Raiden]

Interesting. So while your character has the power to force the wind to do his will, this new character is actually 'one' with the air?

Well now, that adds in some things.

If your windspeaker is going to the island, Pyros will sense him. A creature so intuned with the elements like Pyros is will be able to sense an addition in one of the other realms of the elements. While he won't know what it is or where it is, he'll know that something is up.

[PyrosNine]

I dunno, especially if there's others with strong elemental power nearby, like that Chick who makes plants grow. Pyros isn't very aware of how the place is normally, so he's less likely to notice it.

However, the chick who makes the plants grow (I should check to find her name, But I'm too lazy at the moment) should be capable of sensing it, if she is truly one with nature and has lived on the island all her life. She would know if something odd was happening.

Pyros would probably only be aware if the Air Kami that provide the barrier were all to fall out of formation. That would get his attention.

[Dragonsbane]

Not so much "One" with the air...not quite THAT far gone, but much closer to it than normal Air Demons. Besides, just being close to a concept doesn't make him exceptionally strong. Pyros is right, and a Fire element being detecting an Air element being doesn't make much sense.

As for the Air Oni, I think everyone would notice if such an important part of the island's defensive and agricultural structure suddenly fell out of formation.

Concerning Chi, Sendo, and Ishi...I'm guessing they're sort of a sub-Team Evil. Maybe Team Maniac. Anyhow, other than the real Team Evil treating them like the "Rejects Squad", and laughing at them behind their backs, and shoving them into lockers, and putting laxatives in their coffee to trick them into using the Girls Bathroom, and taking their lunch money...apart from all that, their shennanigans will mostly be ignored. Team Evil forever! :p

[edit] Shouldn't we take this to the new thread?

[Astral Harmony]

It's not that Tsubasa thinks they're rejects. It's really that they're starting to piss her off from the way they introduced themselves to the shit they're talking now.

Oh, and I set up the next discussion thread.