Fighting Games

[PenzoilTheHippo]

So did anyone else like Soul Caliber 2? I thought it was probably one of the best fighting games out there, if not the best. For some reason though people seem to really like Virtua Fighter 4:Evolutions. Which did you like better?


I wish :fighter: could answer...

[LilWhiteMage]

Definately Soul Caliber 2. Kilik all the way >->

[Sakae]

Soul Calibur II. I own with Heihachi.

[ShinRa Incorporated]

I played Soul Calibur 2 at a friend's house [ Too cheap to buy any of the current systems ] and for a game I'd barely bothered to read much about, it kicked a lot of ass [ To the point where I made an Ivy wallpaper o.o Which ain't too shabby ]. I myself just own most of the PS1 fighting games, like SFA3, King of Fighters '99, MvC, DoA...etc.

[KhanFusion]

Soul Calibur 2, Super Smash Melee.

nuff said.

[weezix]

super smash brothers melee is good, very fun because its just a lot of chaos, great to play with a few mates and a bit of booze, gets really competitive :P

[JohnCourage]

SCII is very good, but don't right off Virtua Fighter too quickly. there is a depth and complexity to that game that Namco has been unable to match in any of its titles. VF is the kind of game you sit down and LEARN because if you don't your buddy down the street will kick you around the block. it is not for the casual player/ button masher. that makes it more fun for some, less for others. SCII (as some have already noted) is a very accessable game. a first time palyer can sit down with it and be "good" in seconds. this makes it ideal if you don't some one you regularly compete with. it's all about what you are looking for.

[weezix]

yea i hate button bashing....Grrrrrr at the button bashing rejects out there

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

I just play it all...

Dead or Alive, Soul Calibur, King of Fighters, Capcom vs SNK, Virtual Fighter, Smash Bros, Samurai Showdown, Last Blade, Mark of the Wolves, Hagime no Ippon (Ha, never heard of that one!)...I play all good fighting games I can.

[weezix]

nobody has mentioned tekken yet....or street fighter

[JohnCourage]

VF>SCII>tekken4>CapcomVSwhatever>all other fighters>mortal kombat

[weezix]

lol, yea mortal kombat was never that great, and the films....dont get me started

[Kieran Dineer]

I played a little bit of SCII, but I wasn't able to play much (my older brother owns it and I only see him whenever I'm home from college and he's not doing his job), but what I did play I LOVED. Too bad I wasn't able to start learning some moves and combos... The only other two fighting games I've played much so far have been SSB, SSBM, and Guilty Gears and GGX2. Super Smash is REALLY fun. Man, I can't get enough of that game. And Guilty Gear is a fun 2D fighter. Again, I haven't played much Guilty Gear, but I WAS able to make up some combos for Chip.

[JohnCourage]

whoa, i forgot powerstone! hell, now where does that little gem fit in?

[transcend]

Super Smash Bros. Melee.

Anything else is just not candy enough.

[Sakae]

Oh, you get plenty of eye candy in Taki, believe me...

[JohnCourage]

Oh, you get plenty of eye candy in Taki, believe me...

DoA chicks look like grade schoolers when taki shows up. you can decide if thats a good thing

[The Shockster]

For all of ya that's heard of it, Kabuki Warriors is an awesome, button mashing friend's dream game. Also, Mace the Dark age is good, plus SCI,SCII, SSBM,Mortal Kombat, and Capcom v. SNK 2........i dont have much time, so gotta make it quick...c ya all. :wmage:

[Dante Reborn]

SCII, eh? After I remember how the hell to do that long chain that is undoubtedly used by others with Raphael, I gotta challenge a friend of mine to a contest...

[In Hindsight]

For all of ya that's heard of it, Kabuki Warriors is an awesome, button mashing friend's dream game. Also, Mace the Dark age is good, plus SCI,SCII, SSBM,Mortal Kombat, and Capcom v. SNK 2........i dont have much time, so gotta make it quick...c ya all. :wmage:

Isn't Kabuki Warriors a single player only game?

Anyway... I'm surprised there's barely been a mention of the Guilty Gear series. I'm still of the opinion that GGX2 is the best damned fighter in existence right now. I do enjoy SC2 and VF4E quite a bit as well though. SC2 has a certain fun factor to me that's missing from VF4, whereas if I feel like playing something much more on the technical side, VF4 fills the gap quite nicely.

GGX2 has an amazing system all around though; It's as technical as you want it to be, always a blast to play and pulls it off in a style that no other fighter i've ever seen can duplicate.

[stFalcon5]

Oh yeah. Kabuki Warriors is the hotness. Can't live without playing that game everyday. Kabuki outfits are sexier than the DOA girls ever will be.

And I guess Soul Calibur 2 and CvS2 are good games too, but not up there with Kabuki Warriors. <3

SC2 team: Assassin(!), Kilik, Nightmare/Cassandra. I'm trying to learn Ivy, but that's a long way off.
CvS2 team: Iori, Mai, Sakura (C-groove)
SSBM: Marth.
Street Fighter 1: Uh...Ryu? Or was it Ken?
Street Fighter 2: Ken. Ken 0wned.

[Eleat]

Right now I've been trying to get some of the King of Fighters series... it's crazy-cool.

Though, the best fighter by far is Mugen, the customizeable 2d fighting engine for PC... unfortunately, I think the company went under last year. :(

[stFalcon5]

Right now I've been trying to get some of the King of Fighters series... it's crazy-cool.

Though, the best fighter by far is Mugen, the customizeable 2d fighting engine for PC... unfortunately, I think the company went under last year. :(

Wasn't it fan-based in the first place? I'm sure someone would be willing to work on some minor updates and such in the fan community and take the torch from the creators.

[Lucas]

Eh, street fighter alpha 3 is still the measure to which other fighters are compared.. alpha counters, v-ism, good priority setup, beautiful supers (use guy's x-ism super... that's the essence of cool), surprisingly good music. the game has a lot of style and it has perhaps the most balanced set of characters i've ever played with. even the perennial loser characters can be fearsome with the right player, and best of all when the basic game structure is learnt, you can easily play on random with a good degree of success. The air recover is also important, since it allows you to break combos.

SCII is far too shallow to actually keep most anyone playing for more than 2 weeks, considering that the only interesting mechanic the game has is the ring boundaries. The rock/paper/scisorsness of the game isn't really fun at all, and the advancing guard has been done better in other games.

King of Fighters 98', 02 and 2000 are all excellent games

Garou: Mark of Wolves is pretty much the best replacement for GGX2 and the KoF line. It has style, it has difficult mechanics, and it has dynamic combo abilities.

i wouldn't ignore marvel vs. capcom 2. it eliminated most of the rampant cheese in the first (albeit i'll still accept challenges for mvc online if you want..), the party system is amazingly fun too, altho i've found that akuma is just a wee bit overpowered, along with silver samuri and strider. wolverine was paired down with the introduction of bone-claw, so he's no longer the cheapest character ever.

VF4 is a beautiful game, but it gets rather easy after a week. unless you have a die-hard opponent, there's no point to doing more than rent it.

Samuri Shodown sorta started to suck when it hit samsho4, b/c of the juvenile inf that sogetsu can pull off when he gets powed (duh keep doing the hadoken motion and press A---> you automatically win). also, samsho4 is realllly slow. The super motion is well done, but is totally incogruent with other game formats. < > v often makes people do bk, rqcf. 3 was better, and Zero looks to be amazing.

marvel vs. sf was boring, because it did everything mvc did, but inferior, marvel vs. SNK had zero, but was totally unbalanced (never take anyone but geese or zero) mavel vs. snk was also unbalanced, b/c most all capcom characters have moves that totally do not mesh with the mechanics of the game.

Darkstalkers is crap because...
Vampire savior 1 is all the dalkstalker games and more, yet even this is crap
because
Vampire savior 2 is better than 1.

GGX2 is pretty much a button-mash happy game, so i tend to shun it at arcades, but that's mostly because i've ::never:: lost with ky. its pretty hard to lose when your normal attacks cover a huge swath of area with no punishability. much like tam-tam in samsho4..

Tekken is nice, but has big priority issues with some kick attacks (i.e. i've seen tournament players loose to scrubs who just advance kick the entire set of rounds.)

SSBM is fun, but its not really a serious fighting game: some characters are obviously pure crap, while others are just plain great. the game is beautiful and fun, but i don't consider it as much of a fighting game as the ones above.

[Eleat]

Let's not forget the Bushido Blade series, either. :P

[transcend]

DoA chicks look like grade schoolers when taki shows up. you can decide if thats a good thing

I don't care what anyone looks like, it's impossible to make a DoA chick look like a grade schooler, unless the non-DoA chick in question is entirely composed of breast matter.

[JohnCourage]

well, perhapse i exagerate for effect, but my point is that taki is top heavy beyond the point of being sexy. plus she has a codpiece. thats just creepy

[Lucas]

Taki was coded into the game to test the amount of real-time jiggle per polygon. i swear, the DoA girls may be bigger, but taki has bouncing down to a tee

[Sakae]

Taki was coded into the game to test the amount of real-time jiggle per polygon. i swear, the DoA girls may be bigger, but taki has bouncing down to a tee
It's beautiful when you place her and Ivy in battle theater, and crank up the difficulty. Jiggle jiggle.

[Illuminatus]

Soul Calibur II is purty. And the depth is incredible. And Raphael is an ass-kicking frenchman, an image the country desperately needs to cultivate.Furthermore, replay issues, originality and other issues aside...

IT HAS WEAPONS!!!!!!!!!

That's why it's better than all the other fighting games.

Did I mention that it looks real nice?

[Lian]

Yeah, but MK has weapons, too... :(

[stFalcon5]

Yeah, but MK has weapons, too... :(
Only the 3D ones. Nobody cared about those. :p

Speaking of 3D, I think Lucas is just a wee-bit 2D biased. Which is not an entirely bad thing, but some 3D fighting games this side of Namco can be pretty fun. The elemenets in Soul Caliber 2 and Tekken that might alienate fans of 2D games is the freedom to move. In Soul Calibur moreso, because of air-control and the like. In 3D fighting games it is certianly harder to trap your opponent in a string of moves when you can dodge in more than one plane, so it keeps every battle intense and fresh. As for walls, they might not be as core to the strategy of 2D fighters as a corner would be, but they function similarly.

Oh, and this might just be because of the GBA version (how did Crawfish fit so much into that cartrige?!?!), but Guy's level 3/X-ism super isn't that powerful. Just flashy. And Marvel vs SNK? No. Sorry. Besides, anybody who abuses that Zero bomb trick is a loser anyway.

[Shooter 1.4.1]

I think the name of this forum is inacurate. it should be more along the lines of "Button 'mashers". (as you can guess i dont like fighting games)

[Devil Wet His Pants]

I see it like this (in no particular order).
Great Fighting Games-
Soul Calibur 2
Power Stone series
Tekken series before 4
Capcom Vs. Snk series
Virtua Fighter series (Although I've never been a big fan of it myself, I've seen what people can do)
Super Smash Bros. Melee

Good Fighting Games-
Tekken 4
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Street Fighter series and its clones
Guilty Gear X (Almost forgot this gem)
Dead or Alive series

Average Fighting Games-
Bloody Roar series
Mortal Kombat series

The Rest-
War Gods
Kakuto Chojin
A whole hell of a lot more obscure titles I can't remember...Like Time Killers...

Also, in particular order for the great ones-
SC2>SSBM>PowerStone>VF>Tekken>CvsS

[KeeperS]

I dunno, I never really got fighting games. They only one I could ever get into was the original Toshinden. Super Smash Bros Melee is alright, although that's probably because it doesn't even seem like a fighting game at times.

[synkr0nized]

Well, looks like I registered much too late to make any worthwhile contributions here.

As such, I'll just mumble something about my enjoyment playing the Dead or Alive games (not volleyball) and the Guilty Gear series. I guess, of the two originally mentioned, I'd nod to Soul Caliber first.

[Dante Reborn]

And Raphael is an ass-kicking frenchman, an image the country desperately needs to cultivate.

My thoughts exactly! That's what makes Raphael that much more awesome: he's French!

[Black Moogle Mage]

I'd have to say that Cake Walk On-line (CWO) is the best fighting game ever!

*note: This was a little biased, for I was the creator. It will be coming open on-line on threebits.com, which is going to open in a month

[PenzoilTheHippo]

bwahahhaha pitching your own game. hahahaha! thats awesome!

[Black Moogle Mage]

I have to get the word out...;)

[Lucas]

Considering as SC2 has super limited air, its pretty 2D. i don't think there's a whole lot of "dodging" going on when people use horizontals either. frankly, taking any character that cannot attack quickly in that game is pure suicide, b/c of the guard repels. i preferred it when you could choose which type of counter you got.. that gave SC1 a wee bit of fun.

that said, there was a horribly unbalanced but fun 3d fighter for N64 that i enjoyed.

one last note: zero REALLY DOESN'T need the bombs to be the best character in the game. He can hit downed enemies, has the second fastest move rate, can fuggin' HEAL when an enemy is downed. can force the charge spear to dash combo with the item elf... irregular hunter is perhaps the most effective anti-air in the entire game. even if you don't like irreg, you can use lance spin, which is highly comboable into the dashing super without having the restriction that the triple slash does.

that's without the extend b attack, which can't be countered at all.. or the charged buster, which is a perfect way to pressure after an opponent's projectile.

not to mention that the EX for zero gives him the speed for the second easiest uber combo in the game
(after geese's c-->d combo)

guy's X-super is unblockable and deals 1/2 bar without the jab out that the raging demon has... besides, it's cool.

[Black Moogle Mage]

Lucas, don't forget about how CWO is better than SC2!

[Mr. Viewtiful]

Soul Calibur 2, a most excellent fighting game...

I personally like using Astaroth, Nightmare, and Cervantes (no particular order) in that game, just 'cause they're buff, and they're obsessed with souls.
Cervantes: Show me your soul!
Nightmare: More...need more souls!
Astaroth: Your soul is mine!

On button-mashing...
I don't like button mashing at all, especially when my friends are over at my place and they wreck up my controllers. However, it is very amusing to beat Raphaels abusing 66BBBB... attack (dash forward and mash the vertical button).

Other cool fighting games are:
Power Stone 2
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Soul Calibur
Capcom vs. SNK 2

(I don't really play Tekken and Virtua Fighter, so I can't really say much about them)

[Mr. Wind-Up Bird]

Gulity Gear X on my GBA eats up more time then it really should.

[Illuminatus]

Lucas has a point on that SC thing...if you get good, every attack you do can be shield-countered, so you have to be fast, or REALLY REALLY good to stand a chance. I play Raphael and get stomped by stupid fast-and-furious semi-button mashers all the time.