Supernatural Mafia

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

The Rules
There will be 25-30 players in this game. Possibly fewer if I feel like starting earlier. Roles will be distributed based on whatever the hell I feel like. Hope you’re on my good side.

Everyone will receive a PM explaining their roles and what they are to do for them, or as much of this as I feel they need.

Werewolves: Mafia, basically. There will be mafia of whatever number I see fit. The Don will communicate hits to me. Mafiosos may speak with one another outside the game.

Standard Roles: Inquisitor, Priest, et cetera. If you’ve seen them, they’ll probably show up, different in name only.

Probably.

Other Roles: We’ll see what we see.

Most of you will be townies. For you, repeat this mantra: “We may not speak outside of game.”

That about covers that.

I won’t be giving out information to dead people as an overarching rule. Dead players may not speak with living players about the game. And I’d prefer dead to dead chatter were gone entirely too. Hell, save your death posts for after the game ends.

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The turn order and basic rules will be rather close to last time.

Roles will receive instructions on what their roles are and what to do with them.

Townies will lynch as normal by quorum. Votes and unvotes must be bolded for me to count them.

Outside communication and posting during the night are, as always, against the rules.

In the event of a tied lynch vote, the voting period shall be extended until the GO sees it fit to continue. Players who wish to revise their votes may do so during this period.

At the close of the extended deadline, if the lynch vote is still a tie then there will be no lynching that week.

Role claim: Role claims are what they sound like, telling everyone else what your role is. This is not to be confused with Copy and Pasting your PM, which will get you mod-killed. Role claiming is your word only, no GO verification.

No Lynch Vote: If you feel that nobody is acting scummy enough or you simply do not want to lynch anyone, you may Vote: No Lynch. If the majority of people vote to not lynch, no one dies and the game is shifted towards Night.

Finger of Suspicion (FoS): Merely a gesture of saying "I suspect you." To correctly point a Finger of Suspicion, type FoS: [NAME] in bold. It really doesn't matter if you do this, you can merely say something along the lines of "I suspect you, [NAME]."

PM/IM me to sign up.

Members
Silly “Your God” Kitty: Mason Traitor, Lynched Day 5 God of whores!
Roy_D_Mylote: Single Minded Mason, Killed Night 5
Mr. G Williams: Vanilla Townie, Murdered Night 2
Arhra: Mason Prophet, Murdered Night 3
Inbred "Not as alive as his sister" Chocobo: Werewolf, Murdered Night 3
Ryanderman: Vanilla Townie, Murdered Night 1
Demonlink2: Mason, Murdered Night 3
Cephrir: Werewolf, Lynched Day 2
Twiddy: Doppelganger, Lynched Day 5
IHMN: Voodoo Priest, Murdered Night 0
Sithdarth: Alpha Werewolf, Lynched Day 3
Ogianres: Town Priest, Murdered Night 1
Neyo: Vanilla Townie, Lynched Day 4
Salookanana: Town Mason, Murdered Night 4
B_Real_Shadows: Tainted Townie, Lynched Day 1
Zeriphor
Death by Stabbing: Honorary Victor, Subject of my apathy Day 4
pictish: Cult Leader, Murdered Night 2
FenrisWolf: Inquisitor/Cult Initiate, Murdered Night 1
CrazyBen: Werewolf, Murdered Night 2
Newb: Inquisitor, Murdered Night 2
RedScar: Vanilla Townie, Murdered Night 4
Major Blood: Abraham Van Helsing, Murdered Night 4
Koko
Rhiya


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Furthermore: If, for any reason, I become unable to fulfill my role as GM, Silly Kitty will take over. Because she is awesome.

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

In a small hut, on the outskirts of town, a strange man sequesters himself, toying with strange trinkets and mounds of obscure regents. A shape moves by--his eyes drawn to the darkness--and he looks through the window wide-eyed. The heavy scraping of a table being pushed across the floor isn't fast enough as the door of the hut bursts outward in a shower of splinters; a massive wolf bursts forth from the shadows, claws and fangs locking around the man.

Blood sprays as a cry peals through the night.

The house is the house of IHateMakingNames, and the varous trinkets make it clear that he was a Voodoo Priest, Town Aligned

As a crowd begins to gather around the gore-strewn hut, another scream comes from within the town. The crowd runs forth to find the body of TheWizardWhoDidIt Normal Townie, Town Aligned thrown haphazzardly against a building, the only sign of death a hole at the base of his skull.

The blood-red sunrise pokes through the ceiling of clouds.

It is now Day 1. Twelve to Lynch. No deadline.

[Arhra]

Well, looks like I'm the first person to post. Now that is a first. Please excuse the horrible pun.

Anyway, by the look of things, we have an unknown number of werewolves and some manner of serial killer (a vampire?). We also have a dead voodoo priest, whatever that means. I assume its something like a doctor role, but the voodoo does make me uncertain.

Anyway, we all know there's very little to go on on day 1, but I do have one theory which may or may not be meaningless. I'll preface with a vote:

Vote: Major Blood

We all know that the death posts sometimes have clues in them. The double mention of 'blood' makes me think it is a possibility. Still, it really isn't much to go on. Hopefully we'll get some clues by the end of today.

[Cephrir]

I think the Voodoo Priest was the Vig. It makes sense. And in that case, this is going to be a difficult game. We'll have to wait for KP to be sure, though.

[pictish]

I checked out wikipedia beforehand to make sure I wouldn't be too behind on the workings of mafia for my first game. When I heard this was supernatural mafia, I recalled wikipedia mentioning supernatural roles, so I thought maybe it'd be possible to determine what the 'voodoo priest' does from there. Sadly, it makes no mention of voodoo or priest roles.

That said, I suppose we can eliminate the possibility of 'voodoo priest' meaning serial killer, since there were two deaths at night. Unless the vig is a bit overzealous.

But, that's about all I got from that, and that's nothing too useful I guess. Still, as far as I understand day 1 is more about watching people post and making semi-random votes, looking at posts/defences from votes and deciding who seems scummiest by the way they post... so I'll withhold voting for now until there's a bit more thread activity and something to cross examine.

[Bailey]

Still, as far as I understand day 1 is more about watching people post and making semi-random votes, looking at posts/defences from votes and deciding who seems scummiest by the way they post.
Nonono, Day 1 is all about the random, unfounded accusations, and then we do the examination on day 2 based on how dead wrong people were.




To this end, I'm gonna vote: Fenriswolf on the grounds that he's a hobo.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

I dunno, Arhra's just stating the obvious up there (There are werewolves and serial killers!), and I've done that, and he's voted for me because of it. But I don't want to vote for him yet. Even though, really I do.

[Fenris]

To this end, I'm gonna vote: Fenriswolf on the grounds that he's a hobo.
Why the hell am I always the one you rando vote? It may not be exactly the case, but it sure as hell feels like it. =P

[Mr.G.Williams]

I intend to
Vote: Mr. G. Williams
because he is scummy as scum can be.

*edit* Typed in the bolding wrong...

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Williams makes a convincing argument.

[Demonlink2]

I'm going to vote:Silly Kitty on the basis that SK is our god.

*Prepares to accuse Roy_D_Mafianese later*

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Yeeeah, I'd appreciate it if we held off on that joke, because last time it got me lynched. Kay?

[P-Sleazy]

Last time you were a mafiate too;)

Also, I will vote: IC cause we need his gut to lose this game....Did I say lose? I meant win. Yea...thats what I meant....:rolleyes:

[Roy_D_Mylote]

That is entirely beside the point. The point is, there were myriad better reasons to think I was mafia, and everyone picked that absolutly shitty one to kill me for.

[Mr.G.Williams]

Its hardly the time to bring up old vomitting ghosts, now is it?
By the way, could the voodoo preist(IHMN) have been our Bodyguard? Seeing as how bodyguards are often doctors, healers, etc.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

No. See, it's the perfect time to bring it up, because someone did it first.

[P-Sleazy]

No its not, its never the perfect time to bring stuff up. It leads to rightfully lynching people like IC who haven't posted thier gut feelings yet because their scum, seeing as to how he'd have posted it by now.

[Ryanderman]

Unless he just hasn't gotten on yet. The game is only 10 hours old.


Can we vote KP for being a particularly evil GO? We don't know how many mafia there are? Or if there isa cult, or what extra non-seceret roles may be involved here? He doesn't even tell us what the voodoo priest role entails? I hope he's included a lot of pro-town roles to make up for this secrecy.

[P-Sleazy]

He probably has. He just doesn't want to tell us anything because it could be giving away too much to either side depending on the role of the person. All we know is that the Voodoo priest was a town aligned role. What exactly his role did we don't know. For all we know it could have been our PO too.

And if you think about it, all three town roles of BG, Vig, and PO could be described as a voodoo priest in this game.

Voodoo Priest= BG= As a voodoo priest, he can cast barriers around the person to protect them.

Voodoo Priest= Vig= As a voodoo priest, he can cast spells to attack and possibly kill people.

Voodoo Priest= PO= As a Voodoo Priest, he can create potions or such that either a force a person's role out to him (truth serum) or Show the persons actions/role to him in a a mirror or potion of sorts.

EDIT: OR, he could be any combination of the three. As in, He could use each of those 3 powers, but only once each.

But thats also lacking in knowledge of Voodoo on my part so If anyone has a better understanding of Voodoo, then please correct me.

[Ryanderman]

I don't think he's the PO, because KP did mention a role of "Inquisitor" which would make most sense as a PO. But then again, inquisitor could mean something entirely different.

[P-Sleazy]

No death posts till after the game ends.;)

EDIT: And remember, assuming makes an ass out of you AND me!

[Inbred Chocobo]

You know what B_real, you hurt my feelings, and for that, you get no gut. You hear that! No gut feelings at all! Now what ya gonna do huh? HUH?!?!?!

[P-Sleazy]

SEE! He's evil this time, he is. EVIL I SAY! He didn't give us a gut feeling in his post. He refuses to. I say we make him our Martyr for the day.

[Inbred Chocobo]

Fine, you want a gut feeling!

>.>
<.<

Its B_real_shadows! He must be eviles!!!!

Vote: B_wrong_shadows

[P-Sleazy]

XD

SEE! MORE PROOF OF HIS EVILNESS! He never gut feelings the guy who's accusing him. He must be lynched today or all is lost!

No seriously, look at him. sitting there, SMILING, WAITING, LAUGHING. He's up to something. Something...evil.

[Cephrir]

Vote: Ryanderman. How dare you insult our noble GO!:D

[Ryanderman]

By calling him "particularly evil?" I think he'll probably take it as a compliment. Now with "noble," you're just sucking up. *I don't really like using smilies, but you can imagine the appropriate smilie here if you want to*

[Fenris]

'Sides, KP is a jackass.

Everybody knows it. :P

[pictish]

I'd like to FOS: Inbred Chocobo's gut

IC himself, no FOS. His digestional track? FOS.

[Major Blood]

Well, i could vote based off some of the completely retarded things people say on the first day because we have nothing to go on. But since that too would be completely retarded, i think i'll go on my gut instinct.

Vote: Ryanderman
Why? I don't really know. Something about him tells me he's Mafia.

EDIT - Or at least cult.

[Death by Stabbing]

I Vote: Salookanana on the grounds that I have never heard of them and the name is suspicously long...Also I don't like his shifty eyes

[Zeriphor]

I'm gonna have to FoS: Death by Stabbing for such a hilarious avatar. It clearly depicts his latest act of killing a townie by putting them in a cow costume and throwing them off a cliff!

[Cephrir]

If avatars are grounds for that, then I'll have to FoS: Zeriphor, for having such a cool one.

[Bailey]

Well maybe if you'd stop being a hobo, I'd stop accusing you straight off the bat!

[P-Sleazy]

Said the former mafia Don at the former PO;)

Also, lets get at it everyone. Maybe we can end this day without it taking almost a week. But thats EXACTLY what a mafaite would say. But so is that. You know what? Everything we say can be contorted into us being mafia in some way or another. So whats the best defense against this you ask? Its making a better case against someone else and hope they can't make a better case against you/someone else. So really, It all comes down to the fact of who is the best at making AND presenting a case against someone else.

So here's my case against IC. He's usually one of the first people to post and VERY soon into the game. And his first post ALWAYS had a gut feeling as to who he might think was mafia. I didn't see it come, so I pointed it out and he in his first post REFUSED to give out a gut feeling. I then proceeded to egg him on, and he gave out a gut feeling...against me. Now he's been egged on in previous games before or seen as scummy before he gave out his gut feeling but when he gave out his gut, it was against someone else. (I think he's spiting me by making his gut point towards me.)

So lets have at it IC. Whats your TRUE gut feeling for this game or else my vote stands.

[Sithdarth]

Ok I feel compelled to inform you all I just got hired for the overnight shift at the local Pricechopper. I shall be working from 12am to 7:30am darn near every night and as such will not have the crazy amount of free time being unemployed afforded me. I will have money though so huzzah. (I start Monday morning at 12.)

Additionally, I'll be attempting to apply, Sabermetrics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabermetrics), to Mafia because it sounds like a shit load of fun. It will not help in flushing out roles. It should help deciding when/if we should lynch lurkers, if we should ask for a PO reveal, ect. Plus I really want to see if it as universally applicable as it seems.

Other than that it seems normal first day stuff is going on and since no one has accused me I really have nothing to say as of yet.

[P-Sleazy]

VOTE: SITHDARTH!

For linking us to sabermetrics which is math related and all math related items of interest in Mafia are clear indicators of Mafiates using logic to confuse us.

...what? Its a better case than the one I have against IC isn't it?

[Ryanderman]

...but I liked the case you had against IC.

I'm going to FOS: Major Blood for voting for me and not giving any reason. How can I defend agaisnt that? I think he picked someone who already had a vote against him and tried to build off of it.

[Sithdarth]

VOTE: SITHDARTH!

For linking us to sabermetrics which is math related and all math related items of interest in Mafia are clear indicators of Mafiates using logic to confuse us.

...what? Its a better case than the one I have against IC isn't it?

I knew you were going to say that. You will note though that I don't expect anyone else to do it. Nor do I expect anyone else to listen to what I say about it. Its really to help me decided the best course of action. Instinct is nice and all but I love me them numbers. I trust my math skills over my gut.

[P-Sleazy]

likewise. Math is good if you can understand it. So just be sure that whenever you post up your math, you explain it clearly so I don't have to explain what it means when I agree with the math. Thats asking for both of us getting lynched. Otherwise, I'll have no choice but to REALLY turn on you and your crazy math.

UNVOTE: Sithdarth

And now, I'll represent my case against IC

So here's my case against IC. He's usually one of the first people to post and VERY soon into the game. And his first post ALWAYS had a gut feeling as to who he might think was mafia. I didn't see it come, so I pointed it out and he in his first post REFUSED to give out a gut feeling. I then proceeded to egg him on, and he gave out a gut feeling...against me. Now he's been egged on in previous games before or seen as scummy before he gave out his gut feeling but when he gave out his gut, it was against someone else. (I think he's spiting me by making his gut point towards me.)

So lets have at it IC. Whats your TRUE gut feeling for this game or else my vote stands.

I never unvoted IC btw.;)

[Roy_D_Mylote]

I think B_real has the "Insane" townie role.

Which means he's insane.

But we all already knew that.

[P-Sleazy]

That, or I'm really bored. I account for nearly 1/4th of all the posts made in this thread:D

[Inbred Chocobo]

Well B_real, I am going to take your advice on your comments and make a better arguement against you.

B_real, remember how you acted last game? Where you were completly quiet, hiding in the shadows? So you were bad then. Now look at you, you are exactly the opposite, which means you want people to think your role is the opposite. Therefore you must be evils! You certainly must.

Also, if you check Melfice's sig to ultima java, the battle royal contest there is what is distracting me.

So, I shall Vote: B_still_wrong_shadows.

[P-Sleazy]

see! Now we're getting the hang of it. NOW I have to think of a better case against IC and a better presentation of it.

You see IC, you already voted for me. You never unvoted me. You need not have posted that you're voting for me again. You don't get 2 votes unless you have a role of sorts that we don't know of...yet. I never voted for you twice. I voted for you once, voted for Sithdarth AND unvoted him, without unvoting you.

I think you're trying to draw attention away from yourself and onto your "Fake gut" feeling. Howsabout giving us whom your gut REALLY thinks is scum.

As for last game, I had legitimate reasons for being away. I was away on vacation one week, and then 4 more days I was away so I could move in and settle into college...which took quite a bit longer mind you. Also, you were with me last game and you kept saying how if you weren't cult you would have taken me down so fast for the few posts I DID have. I had no choice but to post little for fear of our victory, which you helped ensure mind you.

On another note, is Steel Shadow playing? No he isn't. I'd be all over his ass right now to have him lynched cause he NEVER won a single game yet. And he's played both major sides, Town and Mafia. I would be saying lynch him because he hasn't won a game so we would know who losses in accordance to what his role was. Now that isn't possible since he's not playing, so, here's another possibility. IC, how many games have you lost?

[Inbred Chocobo]

Not enough! Wait... maybe its too many... hrmmmmm. Is No an acceptable anwser?

Maybe I don't want to give my gut, now that you are bring attention to it. And I can vote as many times as I want, and there is nothing you can do to stop me. (Only KP can.)

Vote: B_real_Shadows
Vote: B_real_Shadows again
Vote: B_real_Shadows yet again.

See! I can vote all willy nilly I want. And whats up with the attack against my votes? Its like you trying to use anything you can as an attack against me. Do you really just hate me that much or something?

[P-Sleazy]

well, looking at your record, you've won almost every single game except the one you were the SK and I'll just discount that since the SK never won before. So basically you have a perfect winning record. I say we kill you here and now to see what role you have, and find out which side wins. Its really win-win if you think about it. A dead townie does not necessarily mean a losing townie. A Dead mafiate, does not mean a losing mafia. Again, its win-win for you IC unless you're the SK again.

And you're a sad little man IC. A Sad Little Man. Voting for me, ME! like that. So out with it. Whats your gut telling you?

EDIT: I'll give you a cookie

[Major Blood]

...but I liked the case you had against IC.

I'm going to FOS: Major Blood for voting for me and not giving any reason. How can I defend agaisnt that? I think he picked someone who already had a vote against him and tried to build off of it.

You had a vote against you? Must have missed that.

All things aside, i voted for you randomly because we have nothing to go on. It's just that for some reason, i'm getting the feeling that you're mafia.

[Fenris]

*gives everybody a lollipop* Whee.

Now, I am going to follow who I think has the best case here.

Vote: B_real Okay, IC is always batshit insane. So is B_real. I like IC's insanity better, 'cause it hasn't infuriated everybody before. So, I vote B_real, until I can peruse the thread, and it won't be until tomorrow night, 'cause I'm spendin' the day with the girlfriend tomorrow.

[P-Sleazy]

heh...atleast I apologized and promised never to repeat that kind of insanity. And I think I'm on a pretty good track towards NOT doing so. I no likey evil roles. I only won once when I was evil. Also

VOTE: Fenris

He's leaving for a day! He's trying to hide behind absences to make sure he survives the first day!;)

Ok, but seriously now

UNVOTE: FENRIS
UNVOTE: IC

Neither are deserving of a vote yet. I do however find MR. G suspicious. Voting for himself and all. Very out of character for him to suddenly be silly. He's usually a very calm and collective person. Hell, he actually got my role right last game, albeit a little too late and being outnumbered by 4 other PO's. So

VOTE: Mr. G Williams

[Silly Kitty]

'Sides, KP is a jackass.

Everybody knows it. :P


Insulting the GO is clearly scummy. THE GO IS BETTER THAN YOU! What I say is true because I am your god.

Vote: Fenris

[Kikuichimonji]

Yay for crashing last night and reading five pages of stuff fast now!

Vote: B_real_shadows

He talks too much to be innocent. The only reason someone would defend themselves to that length when the accusers have been so succint is that they're lying and that they're trying to make an elaborate charade. He doesn't usually say that much in here anyway, which is an indication that he's talking more because he's unsettled because he's *gasp* scummy!

[P-Sleazy]

I already told you, I'm bored. Plus, if you had played some of the earlier games I was in, you'd know that this is ALMOST normal behavior for me in terms of the amount I post. Plus, I stated for you my theory on how the game works. Someone accuses someone and that someone dies unless he makes a reverse accusation against said person or a better accusation against someone else. It works quite well too (the accusing of someone else). And you know what the ultimate accusation is?

ROLECLAIM PO. Mr. G Is the Cult Leader.

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

Major Blood (1)
Arhra

FenrisWolf (2)
Newb
Silly Kitty

Mr. G. Williams (2)
Mr. G. Williams
B_Real_Shadows

Silly Kitty (1)
Demonlink2

B_Real_Shadows (3)
Inbred Chocobo
FenrisWolf
Koko

Ryanderman (2)
Cephrir
Major Blood

Salookanana (1)
Death by Stabbing

Inbred Chocobo (4)
One too many votes
Two too many votes
Three too many votes
Four too many votes

Twelve to lynch. No deadline yet, but I'm thinking sometime on monday, just to get things moving... or, like... paranoiaey. Yeah, it's a word because I say so.

[Inbred Chocobo]

Ooooooooooookay.....

What? You want me to do something? I am now completly confused. Has my gut fallen so far that it hits good roles instead of bad? Or is it that B_real is simply using this as a barrier to defend himself since the votes are piling up.

Well shoot I am not sure, so I'll just leave me votes where they are at.

And Fenris, only I can hand out lollipops! *Eats his*

[Ryanderman]

A roleclaim on page 6? With only 3 votes against him? Seems odd to me. That, and if he investigate Mr. G off the bat, why did he go after IC first? Something doesn't fit. Why reveal himself as the PO and become mafia bait on the first night with only three votes against him? It's not like anyone even had a good arguement.

[Salookanana]

Vote, InbredChocobo.

Nothing personal.

[Cephrir]

Unvote: Ryanderman
Vote: Fenris
He insulted the GO worse! Gasp!

Edit: Well, B_real is being really reckless with that one. The only way to find out for sure would be lynching Mr. G., but knowing that B_real is B_real, should we listen?

[Demonlink2]

Unvote: Roy
Vote:Mr. G Williams
Additionally, Vote:B_Fake_Shadows
Because that's what all the insane peoples are doin these days.
And one of them's scum, at this point.

[Fenris]

NOW I'm positive B_real is scum. I mean, what kind of PO would reveal themselves on day 0. Also, I don't know if the PO could investigate somebody over last night. We'd have to ask KP.

And SK: Calling KP a jackass is like calling the sky blue. It's common knowledge.

[Bailey]

Personally, I'd guess that both of them are scum.

B_Real is trying to make himself look good by "nailing" a mafiate, perhaps one who said that they might not be around for a while.

This is an established tactic. Maesden used it, I used it, your mom used it all night long...


Really, is anybody going to fall for it?

So:

unvote:Fenris
vote: B_real
vote: Mr. G

and just to be safe,

vote: the entire offensive lineup of the New York Giants

[Cephrir]

Unvote: Fenris
Since we can't lynch two people, I'm Voting: B_real

[Ryanderman]

Personally, I'd guess that both of them are scum.

B_Real is trying to make himself look good by "nailing" a mafiate, perhaps one who said that they might not be around for a while.
Well, he's saying Mr. G is the cult leader not a mafiate, so that particular tactic isn't applicable. I'm tending to think B_real might be telling the truth, but I can't understand why he did it. I want to hear from him.

EDIT: spelling

[Bailey]

*goes back and looks*

He called him the cult leader?

Holy shit, that doesn't make any sense at all.

What is he thinking?

[Mr.G.Williams]

Neither are deserving of a vote yet. I do however find MR. G suspicious. Voting for himself and all. Very out of character for him to suddenly be silly. He's usually a very calm and collective person. Hell, he actually got my role right last game, albeit a little too late and being outnumbered by 4 other PO's. So
VOTE: Mr. G Williams

Bah. I am naturally a very silly person. I just know when to be serious. The first day? Not really a time to be serious.

Also, take a moment to analyze the sudden radical claim... Has it been said that we even *have* a cult? No? Kay.

I suppose I should unvote myself, however...

Unvote: Gregory Williams

[P-Sleazy]

What? I never said I was. I was merely giving you an example of what the pinnacle offense is against someone.

I already told you, I'm bored. Plus, if you had played some of the earlier games I was in, you'd know that this is ALMOST normal behavior for me in terms of the amount I post. Plus, I stated for you my theory on how the game works. Someone accuses someone and that someone dies unless he makes a reverse accusation against said person or a better accusation against someone else. It works quite well too (the accusing of someone else). And you know what the ultimate accusation is?

ROLECLAIM PO. Mr. G Is the Cult Leader.

It was to clarify a point in of mine that the most powerful case someone could bring up against someone is to Roleclaim PO.

So to sum up, I'M NOT THE FUGGING PO!

EDIT: Fuck it. I know there's a cult, and you Mr. G, are the cult leader. Why? because you just totally ignored the roleclaim. Plus you're trying to persuade us into thinking that there might not be a cult.

[Ryanderman]

It really seemed like your whole thing about an ultimate accusation was just intended to lead up to the roleclaim. You weren't very clear.

[Mr.G.Williams]

*shrug* Being a normal townie (AGAIN. Dullness) I have nothing to fear from a lynch. It would just make it very apparent who and who not to hit next. But, come on, help a mate out? Getting lynched on the first day when its only the second time you've played? Depressing.

On a side. I am not really all that sure B_real is scummy. Just insane. Thats why I haven't placed a real vote yet.

[P-Sleazy]

Yea, it was intentionally unclear so I could see how Mr. G would react to it. He completely blew it off. Maybe he saw through it, maybe he didn't. It doesn't matter much since he's trying to get us to believe that there might not even be a cult and I'm fairly certain he's the Cult Leader. Or an initiate.

I'm also fairly certain that the Voodoo Priest we lost was a combination of roles and not just one specific role.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

I do however find MR. G suspicious. Voting for himself and all. Very out of character for him to suddenly be silly. He's usually a very calm and collective person. Hell, he actually got my role right last game, albeit a little too late and being outnumbered by 4 other PO's. So

VOTE: Mr. G Williams

He's always very very silly.



EDIT: Fuck it. I know there's a cult, and you Mr. G, are the cult leader. Why? because you just totally ignored the roleclaim. Plus you're trying to persuade us into thinking that there might not be a cult.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard ever.

VOTE: B_real_Shadows Because whether or not he's scum, he's being an idiot, and I don't like idiots.

[Silly Kitty]

Hm, B_Real, what kind of PO is going to roleclaim on the first day? Why would you do a fake PO roleclaim? That seems kinda silly. I don't at the moment think you are scum though.

Unvote: Fenris

[P-Sleazy]

Edit: added in this quote cause of a ninja That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard ever.

VOTE: B_real_Shadows Because whether or not he's scum, he's being an idiot, and I don't like idiots.


Says the person who often needs things spelled out for him:shifty:

Let me explain this a bit more...elaboratly.
Do I have a role? Yes I have a role. No, its not the PO. I am somehow or another entangled with the cult. Am I cult? Maybe. Thats for me to know and for you to find out. Could it be nothing? No. (Vanilla-Townie is a role mind you).

Am I being an idiot? Not as much anymore but hey, if you want me to die I might as well enjoy the show right? Remember, we're playing this for fun, not to beat the crap out of eachother. (Language Roy?)

Is there a cult? Very much so. Inner knowledge of the workings of the game (and KP) has shown me that there is a cult. We also know KP is one sick person not telling us what the Voodoo Priest does and not letting us PUBLICLY know whether there is a cult or not. You can take my word on there being a cult, or you can wait till you kill your first cultist...assuming you can kill a cultist.

Should we worry about the cult? Very much so. Last game you didn't worry about them till the 4th day when Arhra brought it up, but were distracted by the cult in killing Garud, your Vigilante, and one of the mafiates, making it impossible to win by that point due to one of the mafiates siding with the cult, without being in the cult. Plus there was lots of confusion and such. (5 PO's XD)

Why should you believe me that I'm not scum? Its the first day. What reason could you have other than "B_Real's Being an idiot and he's lying". And mind you, you have NO PROOF whatsoever of knowing whether or not I'm lying other than my word and my word alone (unless the TRUE PO reveals himself). Had I been the PO and kept doing what I was, without roleclaiming, would I have died? Maybe not. Would a night role kill me? VERY likely.

Could Mr. G be the Cult leader, or an initiate? He is one of the most likely players to be of that allegiance at this point in the game. The other people you want to look at who could be cult are the ones who are saying "there probably isn't a cult since it wasn't mentioned."

So what have I done? Dug myself a grave. Now I want you to bury me in it if that is your will.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Says the person who often needs things spelled out for him:shifty: I assume you're refering to me as SK is a girl. As such: Bite me.


Let me explain this a bit more...elaboratly.
Do I have a role? Yes I have a role. No, its not the PO. I am somehow or another entangled with the cult. Am I cult? Maybe. Thats for me to know and for you to find out. Could it be nothing? No. (Vanilla-Townie is a role mind you).
Do you have any idea how much I hate the fake-roleclaim, Vanilla-townie is a role too, thing?


Am I being an idiot? Not as much anymore but hey, if you want me to die I might as well enjoy the show right? Remember, we're playing this for fun, not to beat the crap out of eachother. (Language Roy?)
You were acting like an idiot. "You said there's no cult so you're cult!" See? Not smart.


Is there a cult? Very much so. Inner knowledge of the workings of the game (and KP) has shown me that there is a cult. We also know KP is one sick person not telling us what the Voodoo Priest does and not letting us PUBLICLY know whether there is a cult or not. You can take my word on there being a cult, or you can wait till you kill your first cultist...assuming you can kill a cultist.
I hate that too. "There is a cult because I know there is."


Should we worry about the cult? Very much so. Last game you didn't worry about them till the 4th day when Arhra brought it up, but were distracted by the cult in killing Garud, your Vigilante, and one of the mafiates, making it impossible to win by that point due to one of the mafiates siding with the cult, without being in the cult. Plus there was lots of confusion and such. (5 PO's XD) We don't know there is a cult.


Why should you believe me that I'm not scum? Its the first day. What reason could you have other than "B_Real's Being an idiot and he's lying". And mind you, you have NO PROOF whatsoever of knowing whether or not I'm lying other than my word and my word alone (unless the TRUE PO reveals himself). Had I been the PO and kept doing what I was, without roleclaiming, would I have died? Maybe not. Would a night role kill me? VERY likely.
You roleclaimed one day one, and then said "No, I was just messin' with ya!" That's scummy.


Could Mr. G be the Cult leader, or an initiate? He is one of the most likely players to be of that allegiance at this point in the game. The other people you want to look at who could be cult are the ones who are saying "there probably isn't a cult since it wasn't mentioned."
That's dumb. There is no proof that anyone is cult right now.

[P-Sleazy]

We all have roles Roy. Someone has the PO role. Someone had the Voodoo Priest role. And some have the vanilla townie role. A role is something you're to be in a game. A role does not necessarily mean you're not regular.

And I never roleclaimed. True I intentionally made it seem like it. But that just means you're not reading carefully and are easily manipulated.

At first I Didn't want to let loose because I figured KP would tell us. He hasn't. So I took things into my own hands. And it seems to me that the forces of darkness are shrouding your minds.

Again, took it into my own hands. You'll just have to trust me on there being a cult, K?;)

Hence Why I beleive Mr. G to be the Cult Leader. We also have no proof of how many werewolves there are. There could be 3. There could be 7. There could be 5. We don't know that either. But I'm telling you that THERE IS a cult. You have someone who isn't questioning the fact of whether there is a cult or not. I'm that one voice who knows something but is utterly ignored.

Remember Mr. G last game, he knew my role. And if there had been one less cultist, He could have had the numbers in the town to have me killed. And possibly a town victory. He was shunned off to the side and mostly ignored. Sound familiar here?

[Roy_D_Mylote]

We all have roles Roy. Someone has the PO role. Someone had the Voodoo Priest role. And some have the vanilla townie role. A role is something you're to be in a game. A role does not necessarily mean you're not regular.
I know that. Doesn't make me like it.


And I never roleclaimed. True I intentionally made it seem like it. But that just means you're not reading carefully and are easily manipulated.
Then what the fuck is this:


ROLECLAIM PO. Mr. G Is the Cult Leader.
Eh?

At first I Didn't want to let loose because I figured KP would tell us. He hasn't. So I took things into my own hands. And it seems to me that the forces of darkness are shrouding your minds. Or that, y'know, you're not doing a good job.


Remember Mr. G last game, he knew my role. And if there had been one less cultist, He could have had the numbers in the town to have me killed. And possibly a town victory. He was shunned off to the side and mostly ignored. Sound familiar here?
No. Because you don't know his role.

[Cephrir]

Am I cult? Maybe.
Uh, why would you even say that?

And I don't see exactly what evidence there is against Mr. G. Am I missing something?

[P-Sleazy]

You're right. I don't know his role. But I'm VERY CERTAIN of it. From him completely ignoring that "PO Roleclaim" that everyone seems to have beleived which it wasn't. Again Roy. It was to demonstrate a point I was making about this game and the way it functions.

I already told you, I'm bored. Plus, if you had played some of the earlier games I was in, you'd know that this is ALMOST normal behavior for me in terms of the amount I post. Plus, I stated for you my theory on how the game works. Someone accuses someone and that someone dies unless he makes a reverse accusation against said person or a better accusation against someone else. It works quite well too (the accusing of someone else). And you know what the ultimate accusation is?

ROLECLAIM PO. Mr. G Is the Cult Leader.

Why don't you read the italicized and pay close attention to the bold?

Edit: Screw the Italicized, the entire quote shows up Italicized. Start from where I underlined

[Silly Kitty]

B_Real, 5 different people roleclaimed PO and 5 different people gave a different CL. This is just a bit different.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

From him completely ignoring that "PO Roleclaim" that everyone seems to have beleived which it wasn't. So what you are really getting at here, is you think he's the CL because he somehow realized you weren't really roleclaiming PO? That makes absolute, perfect sense.


Why don't you read the italicized and pay close attention to the bold?
Yeah...when you say you're going to show the ultimate accusation and then you type the words "Roleclaim PO" it means you've just roleclaimed PO.

[P-Sleazy]

Neither are deserving of a vote yet. I do however find MR. G suspicious. Voting for himself and all. Very out of character for him to suddenly be silly. He's usually a very calm and collective person. Hell, he actually got my role right last game, albeit a little too late and being outnumbered by 4 other PO's. So
VOTE: Mr. G Williams

Bah. I am naturally a very silly person. I just know when to be serious. The first day? Not really a time to be serious.

Also, take a moment to analyze the sudden radical claim... Has it been said that we even *have* a cult? No? Kay.

I suppose I should unvote myself, however...

Unvote: Gregory Williams
Also the fact that when I made the "accusation" I only used his name because I was already voting for him. But he proceeds to defend himself not by saying that I'm lying or anything. Just insane and such. He also goes on saying as his defense that we don't know that there is a Cult. Now, why would he say that? If he wasn't the Cult Leader, it'd be clear to him that I'm lying. And he'd be going on about me lying and being scum and such. He did no such thing. Also notice that he doesn't include ANYTHING about that roleclaim. Trying to let us forget that it was him whom I "roleclaimed" against.

His next post.

*shrug* Being a normal townie (AGAIN. Dullness) I have nothing to fear from a lynch. It would just make it very apparent who and who not to hit next. But, come on, help a mate out? Getting lynched on the first day when its only the second time you've played? Depressing.

On a side. I am not really all that sure B_real is scummy. Just insane. Thats why I haven't placed a real vote yet.

He seems fairly certain that I'm townie too. As does SK

Hm, B_Real, what kind of PO is going to roleclaim on the first day? Why would you do a fake PO roleclaim? That seems kinda silly. I don't at the moment think you are scum though.

Possible that they have knowledge of who's who in the mafia AND Cult if indeed one is the Cultleader and the other a werewolf cult initiate.

Edit: For Roy. Why yes. That is the Ultimate accusation is it not? Did I say I was making the accusation? No, I just wanted to make a point. I merely asked a question and gave it an answer.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Also notice that he doesn't include ANYTHING about that roleclaim. Trying to let us forget that it was him whom I "roleclaimed" against.
So, what you're saying is, he's the CL because he somehow saw through your roleclaim? That makes absolute, perfect sense.

He seems fairly certain that I'm townie too.
Possible that they have knowledge of who's who in the mafia AND Cult if indeed one is the Cultleader and the other a werewolf cult initiate.
That makes no sense. You're jumping to some pretty big conclusions now.



Edit: For Roy. Why yes. That is the Ultimate accusation is it not? Did I say I was making the accusation no? I just wanted to make a point. I merely asked a question and gave it an answer. Which you did by roleclaiming.

[P-Sleazy]

Again, I did not roleclaim. I gave an example. Theres a difference.

It doesn't mean he saw through it, necessarily. He could have beleived it too and merely dismissed it in hopes that the town wouldn't go looking further into it.

I never said thats what they were. I'm merely stating the possibilities.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

It doesn't mean he saw through it, necessarily. He could have beleived it too and merely dismissed it in hopes that the town wouldn't go looking further into it.


You do realize that that is a weak argument? "Well, maybe he didn't." That's what it comes down to. That is a horrible horrible horrible argument.

[P-Sleazy]

Ok, lets look at this way. He did see through it. What would have happened? He would have pointed it out to clarify things for the town. He didn't. He dismissed it, and worse, didn't even mention it. I'm becoming more and more sure of his guilt the more I have to argue it. Even if I have to use flimsy arguements.

It's still better than what you have against me, a misunderstanding of what I said. You jumped straight to the line of "Roleclaim PO Mr. G is the Cult Leader" and didn't even think about what was said JUST before it. "And you know what the ultimate accusation is?" Or the parts before that. "Plus, I stated for you my theory on how the game works. Someone accuses someone and that someone dies unless he makes a reverse accusation against said person or a better accusation against someone else. It works quite well too (the accusing of someone else)."

Edit: Also, if you look to the rules, and every time a roleclaims been done before, the roleclaim is in BOLD. Not regular text.

Double Edit: It doesn't exactly say in the rules that a roleclaim has to be in bold, but still, everytime its been done, its been done in bold.

[Mr.G.Williams]

Someone accuses someone and that someone dies unless he makes a reverse accusation against said person or a better accusation against someone else. It works quite well too (the accusing of someone else)."

You like an eye for an eye style, eh? Well, I am sure you have heard that makes the world go blind. However, this is not true: It only makes folks who go around stabbing eyes go blind. So far you have spent a good bit of time helping your own sodding' eye get stabbed out...

Oh, quick amusing point:
It was to clarify a point in of mine that the most powerful case someone could bring up against someone is to Roleclaim PO.

So to sum up, I'M NOT THE FUGGING PO!
Yea, it was intentionally unclear so I could see how Mr. G would react to it.

Contradictions are crazy fun!

[P-Sleazy]

Illusions are funner:p

Its an illusion of a contradiction, but its not.

It was to clarify a point in of mine that the most powerful case someone could bring up against someone is to Roleclaim PO.

So to sum up, I'M NOT THE FUGGING PO! Thats me clearing the air and clearing up the misconception of the idea of me being the PO. And telling you WHY I did it.

Yea, it was intentionally unclear so I could see how Mr. G would react to it. The HOW I did it. I made it murky, but clear. Murky for those who don't read posts fully and/or don't think about them, but clear to those who have an understanding of whats going on.

Edit: Really, do we need to go into the Who, What, When, and Where too?

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Ok, lets look at this way. He did see through it. What would have happened? He would have pointed it out to clarify things for the town. He didn't. He dismissed it, and worse, didn't even mention it. I'm becoming more and more sure of his guilt the more I have to argue it. Even if I have to use flimsy arguements.

It's still better than what you have against me, a misunderstanding of what I said. You jumped straight to the line of "Roleclaim PO Mr. G is the Cult Leader" and didn't even think about what was said JUST before it. "And you know what the ultimate accusation is?" Or the parts before that. "Plus, I stated for you my theory on how the game works. Someone accuses someone and that someone dies unless he makes a reverse accusation against said person or a better accusation against someone else. It works quite well too (the accusing of someone else)."

Edit: Also, if you look to the rules, and every time a roleclaims been done before, the roleclaim is in BOLD. Not regular text.

Double Edit: It doesn't exactly say in the rules that a roleclaim has to be in bold, but still, everytime its been done, its been done in bold.

I'm not even going to bother cutting up your quote this time.

Your point is still utterly unconvincing, and makes no gorram sense. It's based entirely on "Well he's smart." Maybe he didn't point it out because he didn't wanna. I dunno. All I'm sayin' is, how do you argue with a roleclaim?

And the bold is just petty semantics you're digging up to cover up the fact that your arguments are awful.

[Ryanderman]

The HOW I did it. I made it murky, but clear. Murky for those who don't read posts fully and/or don't think about them, but clear to those who have an understanding of whats going on.Now you're insulting every person who's posted in this thread since you made the "non claim." Almost everyone has thought you were actually trying roleclaim.

Plus, you said you made it clear enough for those who thought about the post to see through what you said, but then used the idea the Mr. G saw through what you said as proof that he's scum? When you intentionally made it possible for people to see through it? You really are contradicting yourself.

Vote: B_real_shadows

[P-Sleazy]

nah, its mostly precedent. I'm working off of precedent here.

Also, I'm not arguing he's smart. I'm arguing the possibility of what would have happened if the other were true. Again Roy, I'm only presenting to you the OTHER arguement. The one you seem to be going for. I've presented what happened, and what could have happened had the other been true. And now you're saying their both not true. Now its "hey he's smart!" Which I never said he was (nor did I say he isn't).

Now lets say he is smart. He would have seen through it, and mentioned something about it. Counter argue against me, Call me a fake, do something about it. not really. He went on saying we don't even know if we have a cult. Trying to distract us AWAY from the cult which is very real and very much so present.

This isn't like in Goodfella's where SP told us there was no cult so I started harrassing Fenris about being the cult head. Here, KP left it up to us to figure out whether there is a cult or not. And I'm telling you I know there is one and it should not be ignored.

EDIT: For Ryanderman. Nah, mostly so I could pick out the those of us who do skip through parts of posts, don't think about them, so I could figure out who's who and going to use what and how and such against me. I'm fairly certain of a few people now.

Double Edit: OOooooo Veil of words!

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

Major Blood (1)
Arhra

Mr. G. Williams (2)
B_Real_Shadows
Demonlink2

B_Real_Shadows (7)
Inbred Chocobo
FenrisWolf
Koko
Newb
Cephrir
Roy_D_Mylote
Ryanderman

Ryanderman (2)
Major Blood

Salookanana (1)
Death by Stabbing

Inbred Chocobo (1)
Salookanana

Twelve to lynch, someotherstuffgoeshererambleoff...
And now back to RO!

[Roy_D_Mylote]

I cannot continue this argument any further. There is just no way I can prove any of my points any more than I already had, and all your points, B_real, are weak things.

[Cephrir]

KP, Ryanderman only has one vote, or you missed putting a person down.

[Ryanderman]

I think he just missed changing the number from when you were voting for me.

[Silly Kitty]

Okay, it kinda seems like B_Real is the mafia player in this game that makes himself look bad. There always is one in every game and your arguments just aren't good enough. I didn't think you were scum but now I do.

Vote: B_Real_Shadows

[Demonlink2]

Okay, Vote:KP for not remembering I double voted.
j/k, unvote:KP
All silliness aside, Unvote: everyone I voted for and Vote:B_Real.
Why?
He's obviously scum Kill him! Kill him dead!
He's a lying little man who needs to be put down.

[P-Sleazy]

Ditto back towards Roy.

It really seemed like your whole thing about an ultimate accusation was just intended to lead up to the roleclaim. You weren't very clear.

Now you're insulting every person who's posted in this thread since you made the "non claim." Almost everyone has thought you were actually trying roleclaim.

Plus, you said you made it clear enough for those who thought about the post to see through what you said, but then used the idea the Mr. G saw through what you said as proof that he's scum? When you intentionally made it possible for people to see through it? You really are contradicting yourself.

First off, Too all those I've insulted, Sorry. And it wasn't exactly insulting. It was more or less correcting Mr. G's assumption that it was a contradiction.

Now down to business. Nah, its not contradictory at all. Just the illusion of being contradictory. Lets go back the 5 W's and the H shall we?

Who- Me and Mr. G

What- Me making a point using a roleclaim agianst Mr. G as the point without actually roleclaim.

When- First day of the game.

Where- Here.

How- Made a point by "roleclaiming PO" without actually roleclaiming the role. Made it a confusing if you didn't read what was going on in my post.

Why-It was the best way to make a point, AND to see the reaction of someone whom I found suspicious.

So really, you have no one to blame for misinterpretting the post but yourself if you didn't do your reading. Blaming me for it is an escape for you to take. It only shows that scum will know who can be convinced easier and who to concentrate on in swinging votes. I'm fairly certain Newb saw the guise from his reaction to finding out that I "supposedly" roleclaimed and called Mr. G the Cult Leader well after I did it.

Edit: Since the votes are piling up...SK and Mr. G are the ones to go after my death. And Cephrir, Roy, and Ryanderman should be looked into ;)

Good game

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Ditto back towards Roy.

Good game

What does the ditto part mean, now?

[pictish]

I think B_Real is a threat to the town, not necessarily by role, but by actions.

His actions alone have cast confusion and chaos on roles. I see a few upsides to voting for him:

1) If he is 'entangled in the cult' as he said in an earlier post, then finding out his role in a lynch may give us the hints we need to work out what's going on with the cult.

2) If he's the the PO (he says he's not after the roleclaim, but y'know, a big if for ya) then we know the cult leader after we lynch him.

3) We can stop the large amount of attention that's being deflected from every single person and put on him. If he's a vanilla townie, everyday could end up in big arguments with B_Real that let any potential threats to the town hide in the shade.

That said, I'm not too keen to vote for him yet. Why? Only because there is not yet a deadline. The longer day one drags on, the more stuff that'll happen before night. Once there's a deadline, I'll take more serious action. For now

FOS: B_real_shadows

[Silly Kitty]

Why should I be the one to go after your death? I'm not bandwagoning and if you aren't scummy I think everyone can agree you certainly aren't acting that way.

Edit: I always thought the lynching someone by the time they voted was silly. I have been away for awhile and when I come back I read though all this crap and at first I didn't think you were scummy. Then i leave for a bit more and when I come back I read through all this crap and now I do think you are scummy. Does that make me scummy for having other things to do? It shouldn't.

[neyo the king]

Dangit, you all and your 10 pages... making a guy read... Anyway.

His actions alone have cast confusion and chaos on roles.

B_real always brings chaos and confusing to everything.

And, on that note, I do seriously believe that all this between Roy and B_real is all one big misunderstanding. Yes, that means I am siding with B_real.

The way I see it, and the way things have been said, I can only assume that Roy didn't read B_real's post, and only saw the Roleclaim part, and went with that. Well, I have something to say.

The PO will almost never Roleclaim on Day 1 or 2 or any other time, unless they are in danger, or a town win is assured when they roleclaim, or some other such time. I say almost because some new Mafia players might roleclaim early. But I know B_real, I have seen him play. He's no n00b, and wouldn't do something like that.

That's my reason for thinking that B_real is innocent. As unhelpful as it is.

And it's the reason I think I'll Vote: Roy. He hit B_real too hard, and too fast, over something that, to me, seems like just a misunderstanding.

Have at thee.

[RedScar]

I gave up reading all that one the second page. All I know is I'm not dead, voted, or mentioned. Given this, I'm not reading all that. It is my opinion to be lazy.

VOTE: Neo the King

You are the last person to post. And I haven't posted yet so as I vote this you are the last person and therefore my lazyniess says not to scroll higher and you get my vote.

[P-Sleazy]

Thanks Neyo! XD Its nice to know there's someone who understands whats going on.

Also, Red, you need to bold your vote.;)

Okay, Vote:KP for not remembering I double voted.
j/k, unvote:KP
All silliness aside, Unvote: everyone I voted for and Vote:B_Real.
Why?
He's obviously scum Kill him! Kill him dead!
He's a lying little man who needs to be put down.

And Demon, Invisi-text is bad.

EDIT: Oh and Roy, The ditto thing was referring to your last post except right back at you. ;)

This is the post

Cannot continue this argument any further. There is just no way I can prove any of my points any more than I already had, and all your points, B_real, are weak things.

[Demonlink2]

And Demon, Invisi-text is bad.Meh. I'll keep it in mind.
He knows my secrets! He's clearly got a mole on the inside! Lynch him!

And.....now I'm done. Go on avoiding death or whatever.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Well I had to have weak points. As a good friend of mine said once, "You don't fight pillows with H-bombs."

EDIT: Or something like that, anyway.

[Kikuichimonji]

I'll be honest here. I want b_real to get lynched for two reasons:

-I'm lazy, and we have no good proof right now that would incriminate anyone else moreso.
-I'm an asshole who's holding a grudge from a long time ago about a certain comment he made.

Right or wrong, I really don't think that we have enough to catch anyone in the act right now moreso than B_real. I still think that he has been acting at least a tad scummy, so... still Vote: B_real_shadows.

[P-Sleazy]

Paybacks a bitch...:p

Edit: You're still going on about that? Now thats one hell of a grudge if I knew one.

Double Edit:...what exactly did I say again?

[Silly Kitty]

Well, I'm not so sure of B_Real being scummy anymore. I've had a bit of time to think about it and it could just be like CMP when he made the joke about Mes. (Although he was mafia but he shouldn't have been lynched because of a joke) I really thought you were role claiming too and I knew you were talking about accusations but you could have made it a bit more clear (Like putting quotations). You are avoiding the revealing, which is understandable because it is the first day, your role, and from everything you said it kind of seems likes you are cult or related to cult. Or something. So, I will keep my vote on you for now because I am not totally unsure of your guilt but if you can convince me of your innocence I may unvote you.

I think you are still acting scummy but I never really got the feeling that you are scummy. That pretty much sums up that!

[Ryanderman]

I'm entangled in the cult in such a way that could possibly harm cult recruitment. Among other things.

Edit: hence why I know a cult exists.
That's interesting... I wish I could believe you. Though it would be an odd role for someone who is scummy to just pull out of a hat when making up an excuse. Then again, that could be why you made it up.

What the heck Unvote:B_real. It can't hurt to at least entertain that idea and reread this thread again.

[Silly Kitty]

I'm not too sure if that is a real role or not. It is KP's game so I wouldn't be surprised. I will think it over and choose to unvote or vote a bit later.

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

Okay, I think the concept of a secret role and the idea of "don't tell anyone" has been missed here.

They're not just words! They have a meaning!

Now look what you've gone and forced me to do, now I have to change the game.

The next person who reads this, participant or not, pick a number between one and ten and post it.

Everyone else, prepare for PMs and role changes.

Geez, skirt the intent...

Edit: Fantastic, number seven. I was expecting that, actually.

Further Edit: The PMs have been sent. And I've even managed to confuse myself over what I did. I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY NOW!!

[P-Sleazy]

Heh, Sorry KP! I think thats deserving enough for me to die.

Unvote: Mr. G
VOTE: B_Real_Shadows

So I don't screw this one up anymore than I already have.

[neyo the king]

Well, now that's over. And we can pretty much ignore what has just happened...

Joy.

Nice going, B_real, once again you totally destroy the game!</joking>

Well, I might as well

Unvote: Roy

Man, I don't wanna vote for B_real, now that everythings all topsy-turvy-crazy-mixed-up...

So, I'll FOS: Neyo for totally taking B_real's side in that previous argument! Watch your back, me!

[Mr.G.Williams]

See what your insanity has caused, B_real? I hope you are happy! Now everyone is confused. *shoots a rabbit*

[Roy_D_Mylote]

What'd the rabbit ever do to you, you fucker?

[P-Sleazy]

so wait...does this lack of apperent voting for me mean you want me to stay? Huzzah!

UNVOTE: B_Real

Really, I don't want to go voting myself off. It should be the will of the voters, not mine. Possibly even the Go.;)

[Mr.G.Williams]

The rabbit confused me, of course. Plus, you never know. The rabbit may have had a dangerous secret role.

[neyo the king]

Or maybe you have a secret bunny killing role, with which that you are in the win if you are with the continuation of the killing of bunny rabbits! Well?

I am with seeing in through your super secret top plans of total win pwnage! U R FOS!!!11!!1one2!

Alright, no more spam. We need something to go on now.

I've thought about it, and thought about it, and I have decided to just go ahead and

Vote: Roy.

Mainly, it's because of first-day-i-ness. But, to give an actual reason, I would have to say that he seemed a little to eager to get rid of B_real, as I said before. He was attacking B_real over something that was a misunderstanding.

Note: This vote is fickle and can change at the drop of a hat. It is a vote, not an FOS, becuase of the first-day-i-ness of the situation. I'll probably change it when Roy answers.

[Silly Kitty]

Vote Count

Major Blood (1)
Arhra

B_Real_Shadows (9)
Inbred Chocobo
FenrisWolf
Koko
Newb
Cephrir
Roy_D_Mylote
Silly Kitty
Demonlink2
Koko

Ryanderman (1)
Major Blood

Salookanana (1)
Death by Stabbing

Inbred Chocobo (1)
Salookanana

Neyo the King(1)
RedScar

Roy(1)
Neyo

Twelve to lynch. No deadline yet. Because KP said so. Yeah.

[Bailey]

SK, you missed my other two votes.

I was also voting for Mr. G and the entire offensive lineup of the New York Giants.

But whatever, I was just going to unvote Mr. G in this post anyway.

[Silly Kitty]

I don't care. It isn't my game. Get over it. If you don't like it why don't you do it!? *runs away*

Also, I just took the vote count from the last time KP did it. So it would be he who missed it not I.

[Salookanana]

Unvote Inbred Chocobo
Vote B Real Shadows

Everyone seems to be confused by B's existence, apparently, so lets make things simple.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Vote: Roy.

Mainly, it's because of first-day-i-ness. But, to give an actual reason, I would have to say that he seemed a little to eager to get rid of B_real, as I said before. He was attacking B_real over something that was a misunderstanding.


Voting for me now, based on stuff that happened Pre-Crisis, is kinda dumb, because none of that matters now.

And UNVOTE:B_real because this is post-crisis, baby.

(See? I can turn anything towards comics)

[Arhra]

I would advise everyone to unvote B_Real. Admittedly, this is working under the theory that this 'cult entanglement' he spoke of is only an ability added to an otherwise vanilla townie.

With the role reshuffling, presumably the role groups (i.e. the werewolves, the cult and the masons (if they are in this game)) are unaffected. Admittedly there may be roles like Werewolf Pansy where the Pansy part might have been switched with another.

For other suspects, I'd like to stick to my Major Blood vote. My suspicions have been deepened by his vote for Ryanderman. Ryanderman doesn't strike me as looking like scum and basing it off "Why? I don't really know. Something about him tells me he's Mafia. EDIT - Or at least cult." really gets me suspicious.

[neyo the king]

Actually, Roy, Pre-Crisis or Post-Crisis, it happened. And as such, it matters. Just because it is now irrelivent to the overall scheme of who's role is who's, you still attacked B_real. And it is still there for all to see.

But, I have thought about it, and the possibility that you might have a new role now has come up. What I will do with this possibility I have yet to determin, but, till I can get my thoughts in order,

Unvote: Roy.

[Arhra]

I've realised I wasn't too clear on my reasoning for why the role groups are unaffected before. For clarity's sake, I'll add it here.

Basically I think it would be far too confusing if all the scum roles got moved around - we couldn't trust any information before this point. I think its more the secret specialty roles like Cult Interferon and Mystery Guy X that were changed.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Actually, Roy, Pre-Crisis or Post-Crisis, it happened. And as such, it matters. Just because it is now irrelivent to the overall scheme of who's role is who's, you still attacked B_real. And it is still there for all to see.


B_real was acting like scum before. There's no way you can look at it where he doesn't look scummy. I voted for a scum-person, and then I continued persecuting him. But now all the roles got switchied, so I'm not convinced B_real is a bad guy.

[Bailey]

I think his new role is scapegoat, townie aligned.

If investigated by the PO, he'll show up as a mafiate.

:p

In all seriousness, I think that with the exception of people who were specifically named in that fiasco, we can expect people who were scum before to still be scum.

EDIT: Including the single-person scum roles.

Like Serial Killer and stuff.

[Cephrir]

Arhra is saying that probably only the non-scum roles were exchanged not the scum ones. So if B_real was scum before, he still is, assuming Arhra is correct. The game thus far would be pointless otherwise.
Any scum want to clarify for us?:D
Edit: Ninja'd, but I don't feel like changing it.

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

Okay, because this is turning into a goddamn headache, I will say that I did not mess with everyone's roles. Those of you who did get the change, you know who you are from the PMs. Those of you who didn't would have got no PM.

Let's not turn this into a whole, "Who got changed? Did you?" fiasco.

Insofar as I would prefer you not to keep asking me if you got switched and not to go parading about later as one of the ones who did since I want this to be as much like the fiasco never happened as possible, I did leave some people the same. And it was thought out. As thought out as the original assignments. So, to that end, yes, it is a valid thing to consider.

But in the end, it'll probably just give you an aneurism since you're going up against three months of pre-planned double-think and an injection of pure 'trying to fuck with you people'.

The point: the longer this is a 'thing' more annoying it is. I just really didn't want to be 'that guy' who kicked someone out based on a minor rules thing.

Also, while we're on the subject, just one more of you make a crappy multiple vote joke or asinine vote joke I swear to god I will re-asign you a crappy role.

Swear to God!

[Bailey]

Wow, not refreshing and trying to avoid a double post by using an edit tag ended up making me look so damn suspicious.

I would like everybody to take a moment to appreciate the effort and craftsmanship that the good Baron von Simulpost has put into this thread just now.

[Demonlink2]

You know what? Unvote:B_Real
I've got nothing on everywhere else. Although Arhra had a point with the blood in the death post, there's no REAL evidence anywhere now.

[Silly Kitty]

Unvote: B_real

I think you all know why.

[P-Sleazy]

VOTE: Mr. G

Cause he's the guy I was going after and my reasoning stands! Plus I'll probably be dead soon anyways.:p

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

Vote Count

Major Blood (1)
Arhra

B_Real_Shadows (7)
Inbred Chocobo
FenrisWolf
Koko
Newb
Cephrir
Koko
Salookanana

Ryanderman (1)
Major Blood

Salookanana (1)
Death by Stabbing

Neyo the King(1)
RedScar

Mr. G. Williams(1)
B_Real_Shadows

Twelve to lynch, deadline is set for 7:00 PM on Tuesday, 24 hours from now.

[P-Sleazy]

I would advise everyone to unvote B_Real.

For other suspects, I'd like to stick to my Major Blood vote. My suspicions have been deepened by his vote for Ryanderman. Ryanderman doesn't strike me as looking like scum and basing it off "Why? I don't really know. Something about him tells me he's Mafia.
For Emphasis;)

I really still beleive SK and Mr. G are in cahoots. They were both reluctant to vote for me as if they knew I wasn't evil.

SK voted for me when it seemed sure I was gonna die, and unvoted for me when the trend of "Hey, lets unvote B_Real" seemed emminent to happen. And she gave pretty shoddy reasons too. "I think you all know why". No, we don't all know why. The last things you said that reffered to unvoting me were "I will think it over and choose to unvote or vote a bit later." and Well, I'm not so sure of B_Real being scummy anymore. I've had a bit of time to think about it and it could just be like CMP when he made the joke about Mes. (Although he was mafia but he shouldn't have been lynched because of a joke) I really thought you were role claiming too and I knew you were talking about accusations but you could have made it a bit more clear (Like putting quotations). You are avoiding the revealing, which is understandable because it is the first day, your role, and from everything you said it kind of seems likes you are cult or related to cult. Or something. So, I will keep my vote on you for now because I am not totally unsure of your guilt but if you can convince me of your innocence I may unvote you.

I think you are still acting scummy but I never really got the feeling that you are scummy. That pretty much sums up that!

So what finally made you want to change your vote SK?

As for Mr. G, he hasn't voted for anyone but himself. And was reluctant to vote for me during and after that misunderstanding, and admitting to being confused.

UNVOTE: MR. G
VOTE: SK

The greater of the two evils. EDIT: Greatest of the three evils if you include me. :p

DOUBLE EDIT: CHanged typo in underlined portion from "Agree with" to "Vote for"

[neyo the king]

Ok, fine, I'll drop the fiasco (what a silly word) and focus on something else.

...Well, I got nothing.

So, I'm going to ask, Who is RedScar, and when did he vote for me? I musta missed that...

[Roy_D_Mylote]

For Emphasis;)

I really still beleive SK and Mr. G are in cahoots. They were both reluctant to agree with me as if they knew I wasn't evil.



Greg was reluctant to agree with you because you were attacking him! :stressed:

[P-Sleazy]

Ooops...thats a typo in that post.

It should read I really still beleive SK and Mr. G are in cahoots. They were both reluctant to VOTE FOR me as if they knew I wasn't evil.

It did read I really still beleive SK and Mr. G are in cahoots. They were both reluctant to AGREE WITH me as if they knew I wasn't evil.

I'll change it in the original.

EDIT: Sorry about that.

DOUBLE EDIT for Neyo: Redscar's illiterate. Thats all you need to know.

[Bailey]

Redscar's illiterate. Thats all you need to know.
I hear they have a pill for that now.

[Kikuichimonji]

If b_real is mafia, him changing his vote means that there was a change in the plans of the mafia. The original plan wouldn't have been to lynch a mafiate, so Mr. G looks unscummy to me if b_real is scummy. I would also say that SK looks less scummy, except that the vote-change and the general 'I'm not sure I should vote for you' insecure routine could obviously be a farce.

Also, Mr. G hasn't done anything scummy from what I've seen.

Also also, I still think b_real is scummy. For lack of a better pincushion, my needle remains in his fluff.

[Bailey]

Oh yeah, put your needle in his fluff all night long you bad, bad boy.

[P-Sleazy]

Thats right, you'll be putting it in the fluff of a corpse if you keep it up:gonk:

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Newb? There are things I do not need to read. I saw Nikose and his girlfriend in states of undress once. I have been ruined enough!

Oh, and I can't wait to be killed by the mafia tonight...

[Kikuichimonji]

Oh yeah, put your needle in his fluff all night long you bad, bad boy.
See, it's funny because he made it into a sexual innuendo. Only it's still not funny, and now Newb scares me.

Newb? There are things I do not need to read. I saw Nikose and his girlfriend in states of undress once. I have been ruined enough!

Oh, and I can't wait to be killed by the mafia tonight...You know I've always been alive in every day of every mafia game I've played? True story.

Also, twenty bucks says I get lynched tonight because I said that. You're welcome, by the way =P.

[P-Sleazy]

KILL THE HEATHEN! He has never been lynched! But seriously, What'd I say all that long ago thats resorted into a grudge. I'd atleast like to know what I need to apologize for. Please?

[Kikuichimonji]

KILL THE HEATHEN! He has never been lynched! But seriously, What'd I say all that long ago thats resorted into a grudge. I'd atleast like to know what I need to apologize for. Please?I forget. I just remember I have a grudge with you, and that I promised to get back at you. Also, I still think you're scummy.

[P-Sleazy]

Well, I think it had something to do with one of the forum games. Possibly the Corrupted wish game, or the One Sentence game...

But thats uninvolved in this game so I'll just reiterate my case against SK in quotes.

I would advise everyone to unvote B_Real.

For other suspects, I'd like to stick to my Major Blood vote. My suspicions have been deepened by his vote for Ryanderman. Ryanderman doesn't strike me as looking like scum and basing it off "Why? I don't really know. Something about him tells me he's Mafia.
For Emphasis;)

I really still beleive SK and Mr. G are in cahoots. They were both reluctant to vote for me as if they knew I wasn't evil.

SK voted for me when it seemed sure I was gonna die, and unvoted for me when the trend of "Hey, lets unvote B_Real" seemed emminent to happen. And she gave pretty shoddy reasons too. "I think you all know why". No, we don't all know why. The last things you said that reffered to unvoting me were "I will think it over and choose to unvote or vote a bit later." and Well, I'm not so sure of B_Real being scummy anymore. I've had a bit of time to think about it and it could just be like CMP when he made the joke about Mes. (Although he was mafia but he shouldn't have been lynched because of a joke) I really thought you were role claiming too and I knew you were talking about accusations but you could have made it a bit more clear (Like putting quotations). You are avoiding the revealing, which is understandable because it is the first day, your role, and from everything you said it kind of seems likes you are cult or related to cult. Or something. So, I will keep my vote on you for now because I am not totally unsure of your guilt but if you can convince me of your innocence I may unvote you.

I think you are still acting scummy but I never really got the feeling that you are scummy. That pretty much sums up that!

So what finally made you want to change your vote SK?

As for Mr. G, he hasn't voted for anyone but himself. And was reluctant to vote for me during and after that misunderstanding, and admitting to being confused.

UNVOTE: MR. G
VOTE: SK

The greater of the two evils. EDIT: Greatest of the three evils if you include me. :p

DOUBLE EDIT: CHanged typo in underlined portion from "Agree with" to "Vote for"

I'd also be nice if we went past the first 2 lines this time.

[Salookanana]

Unvote B_Real

I doubt that he'll have a dangerous role after the shuffle.

[P-Sleazy]

I could still be anything.:D

[Silly Kitty]

Heh, you are silly. First of all, I am always reluctant to vote for someone. Check my history if you don't believe me. I almost never vote on the first day. Second, I thought the reason was pretty clear. I had no idea what was going on. Your role was reassigned so I am confused. Didn't everyone feel the same way? I thought that would be pretty plain.

[P-Sleazy]

Nope, NOT AT ALL! I still think you and Mr. G are in cahoots, so I'll stick with my vote.

Plus, Aint confusion great? When IHMN isn't here to lead us onto an organized path, I come in to muddle it up into anything but organized. We're about as far now, as we were on post 2.

[Silly Kitty]

Meh, from what I can see you are just trying to make a case against me to save your own ass. You really have no case against me. Because someone plays similar to what I do I must be working with them, right?

[P-Sleazy]

no, theres just reason to believe you and Mr. G are in cahoots together. No evidence. Never is there evidence unless given by the Go. Which may be why Arhra chose to go after Major_Blood over anyone else. It all Goes back to my theory of how the game is played.

1. An accusation is placed against someone.
-a. someone reacts to accusation
2. Accused or someone else presents another accusation.
-a. Accused reacts
3. Best presentation of the accusation, and the actual accusation, are voted on based on which way the players votes.

So really, its just a roundabout of who can reason the best half-baked idea as to why someone is scum.

Not to mention, you didn't really do anything to defend yourself, or redirect the accusation. You just merely said I have no case against you, which I wouldn't had I not made my accusation of you and Mr. G being in cahoots. I do however have a case against you. Just not a very good one in your eyes.

[Silly Kitty]

Isn't redirecting the vote kind of a scummy tactic. "No, I am not scummy but look at this person! They are!" Isn't that what you are doing now? I did defend myself. I defended myself against what little case you had. I told you my reasons. That was my defense. I can't give you anything more because there isn't anything more.

[P-Sleazy]

not really. If you can make a better case against someone else, then good job. But you can't ignore the case against you as it becomes more and more valid the more you ignore it see? You atleast have to be able to adress it, but eventually you'll have to redirect if you just keep addressing the case against you. That too could be seen as scummy if all you're doing is protecting yourself and avoiding the spotlight. Eventually, you're gonna need the spotlight on you, and you're going to have to be a good citizen and pass it on to someone else in hopes that they'll slip up or time's up. Its like a game of Hot Potato.

EDIT: I think this needs a bit more emphasis for 5 more of you

I would advise everyone to unvote B_Real.

[Silly Kitty]

Well, I will leave the potato in your hands because I got to get some sleeps.

I still just don't see how working with someone you don't even know is scummy could make me scum. I didn't work with Mr. G. I play the same way I always do. We both thought the same thing as I'm sure many others have and will do.

[P-Sleazy]

I said you're in cahoots together. Doesn't necessarily mean you're scum. Just a very good chance of it. You two seem to be doing nearly the same thing, plus, why leave the potato with me if you know I'm not scum (hence your unvote), unless, again, you have inside information of my scuminess.

[Bailey]

Okay, at this point it's starting to look like B_real is scum but Arhra is not, and B_real is trying to pull somebody down with him.

He probably knows he's going to die, and figures that if he can point out that Arhra told us not to kill him enough times then he can get us to go after Arhra next round.

EDIT: Did B_real just try to oust the masons?

[Fenris]

You know why I'm not unvoting B_real just yet? I haven't had tirme to read just what the hell is going on. I may or may not have time after school today.

And ya know, B_real? Stop mentioning Arhra telling us to unvote you. In summation: STFU.

[Arhra]

Oh, that's it. I am sick of the manifest idiocy. I don't care if you're scum or not at this point. Just shut up and die!

Vote: B_Real

To give less insulting (but less funny) reasons, I think B_Real's simply muddying the water too much with wild accusations, contradictory arguments and excessive posting.

EDIT: Some rephrasing

[Demonlink2]

Oh, that's it. I am sick of the manifest idiocy. I don't care if you're scum or not at this point. Just shut up and die!
Seriously, you keep throwing out the "Do it 'cause Arhra said so" quote. If anyone needs someone else to be able to defend themself, you're either really foolish, or flat out scum.
Vote: B_Real

[Cephrir]

I'm leaving my vote where it is. B_real just screws with the game. And now that Arhra's voting you, B_real, you don't have a defense anymore. If you come up with something better, I may unvote you.

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

B_Real_Shadows (8)
Inbred Chocobo
FenrisWolf
Koko
Newb
Cephrir
Koko
Arhra
Demonlink2

Ryanderman (1)
Major Blood

Salookanana (1)
Death by Stabbing

Neyo the King(1)
RedScar

Silly Kitty(1)
B_Real_Shadows

Twelve to lynch. Deadline in eleven hours.

[Ryanderman]

Voting for B_real because he made a mess and is likely to make more is all well and good, but if we think his role has been changed to something not scummy, or even to just a vanilla townie, shouldn't we keep him alive to keep our numbers up? We could tell him to shut up and be thankful he's not dead. I know the deadline is approaching fast, so we don't really have time to vote for anyone else, even if we had evidence against another scummy person. This just seems like a waste.
Eh, maybe he is scummy, who knows.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Know what? I unvoted B_real Post-Crisis, and now here we are, and I'm going to Vote: B_real because he is, well, "muddying the waters". And he did that whole, "You did the same thing, you're working together." I mean, the eight or nine people who have voted for you are doing the same thing. What's that tell you? Are all those people in cahoots as well?

[Mr.G.Williams]

I just would like to point out the word cahoots has now been used eleven times...

Can we get a better word, please?

[Roy_D_Mylote]

*Gasp* Only witches can count! Burn the witch!

[Salookanana]

Re-Vote B_Real

Random accusations make me a sad panda.

[P-Sleazy]

I...just..*sniffle*..wanted to..*Sniffle*..live....is that...*Sob* such a *sob* horrible crime...*sob*....to kill me? *sob*

Plus, I firmly beleive I am in the right. We'll just see how the muddied waters clear up in a day or two. We'll see that SK and Mr. G were in cahoots(And Mr. G seems to be keeping an eye on that word, almost as if...he's afraid of the conspiracy). Masons or Mafia. Doesn't matter, they know too much about my innocence.

EDIT: I'm not using arhra as a defense. I'm just emphasizing what he said...to save myself. If you want my defense then here it is.







I got nothing. I'm just one very bored and very sad little man. Plus, My forewarning still stands. SK and Mr. G should be taken care of soon, or atleast looked into by the PO, and the other three names I mentioned earlier the town should be wary of. It was Ryanderman, Roy, and Cephir

[Mr.G.Williams]

I think it was Ryanderman, Roy, and someone else.

The fact you can't even remember what names you gave makes the accusations a little less than credible...

[P-Sleazy]

Hey, I edited it into it. It was three names I found suspicious and I have stuff going on that keeps me from remembering exact names. I had 4 of the 5. Thats better than 3 out of 5.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

It's great how everyone he finds suscpicious is a person who disagreed with his utterly baseless accusations.

[P-Sleazy]

You misunderstood the accusation, but you kept pushing it.
And yes Newb, I did just oust the Masons because we don't know they exist. As much we don't know if the cult exists.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

I didn't misunderstand your accusations. You were accusing Greg of being the cult leader by implying that you were the PO. Whether you meant to or not you did imply that.

And you claim that you do know the Masons exist so that reply to Newb is pretty invalid, by your own "logic".

EDIT: Up there, the very last time I wrote "masons", that means "cult" but I'm dumb and forgot what I was thinking of.

[P-Sleazy]

I never said there were masons. Newb thinks I dissed them. I didn't. I just said there's a much larger possibility of them being scum than innocent. You should read and reread what people are referencing, Roy. It does help alot.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

"Did B_real just try to out the Masons?"

That's what you were referencing, no?

That up there, where I typed Masons, I meant "Cult." So saying that we don't know Masons or cult exist, doesn't work. B_real.

[Mr.G.Williams]

You know what I suddenly want to see? And electric-chair death post.... just 'cus.

[P-Sleazy]

Well, I tried to be the good townie and let the town know something that would benefit them, but was ridiculed. I tried to convince them the best way I could think of, But was told off. So, seeing as to how every time I tried to clear the waters up, someone always came in and muddied them back up for you and ridiculed my knowledge and blaming it on me. So after all that, I might as well do the crime I'm about to do the time for, no?

And I have three hours as of this post.

[Cephrir]

SK and Mr. G should be taken care of soon, or atleast looked into by the PO, and the other three names I mentioned earlier the town should be wary of. It was Ryanderman, Roy, and Cephir

There are two things that bother me about this.

A) Last time I asked you why you were suspicious of me, you never answered, and have yet to give any evidence. Actually, your case against Mr. G. doesn't make a lot of sense either. Actually, none of your accusations made much sense. It seems to me that you've been blindly pointing fingers away from yourself.


B) MY NAME HAS TWO Rs IN IT!
...I guess that goes to show you that people just don't read user titles. I wouldn't say this if it was the first time somene messed it up, but it's at least the fifth. Is there some game character or something I don't know about named Cephir?

[Roy_D_Mylote]

B_real, no-one muddied the waters when you cleared them. I mean, sure, that mighta happened if you ever cleared them. But no clearing occured.

[P-Sleazy]

Thats what you want them to beleive Roy. Edit: You're the one that escalated the confusion higher. I may have started it in an attempt to clear the air, you, by not reading thouroughly, have escalated the confusion.

Edit: Since the votes are piling up...SK and Mr. G are the ones to go after my death. And Cephrir, Roy, and Ryanderman should be looked into ;)

Good game

I got it right the first time I used your name:D

EDIT: And for you Cephir, I just didn't like the way you were voting and such. Seemed suspicious.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

It's what I want them to think because that's what happened. You come out of nowhere and accuse Mr. G of being the CL and then claim he ignored your roleclaim, which proves he's the CL, and then you say you didn't roleclaim. See how it's confusing, and not anyone else's fault?

[P-Sleazy]

Either way, he came off bad to me. Plus, you're digging a hole now. Why argue with a dead man? Are you that anxious to continue this for this long(and longer) to prove that you're mafia tommorow?

[Roy_D_Mylote]

It'd be hard to give proof that I'm mafia. Hard meaning impossible, in this instance.

[P-Sleazy]

Not so much after 1 and a half hours. You should consider stopping now. All you're doing is beating a dead horse.

[Cephrir]

EDIT: And for you Cephir, I just didn't like the way you were voting and such. Seemed suspicious.
Tell me that's a joke. I mean, seriously. That's sad.

[Bailey]

Wait, when did I say that B_real was dissing the masons?

I said it looked like he was trying to reveal them, which, to me, looks like a one-person scum role trying to get the mafia to go after somebody else so that they have one less thing to worry about at night.

[Silly Kitty]

I'm not gonna vote for B_Real because I think it is likely with the role change he is just a townie or something. I don't really think he is scum either. Well, good luck, B_Real!

[P-Sleazy]

LUCK! I need no luck. It is convenient how Roy suddenly stopped when I told him too. He seems almost as if he's worried he will reveal too much by pressing the issue.

UNVOTE: SK
VOTE: ROY

And yes, yes it was a joke Cephir. Phew, Thats a nice save.

Edit: about that luck, I'll need quite a bit of it if I'm to live now that the deadline's 30 minutes away. ^.^

Double Edit: as for the masons, I don't know who they are or anything. I just beleive that SK and Mr. G are in cahoots together and because there are an unknown number of masons, and an unknown number of werewolves, from past precedent of 3 masons to 5 mafia, its more likely their both mafia than both masons.

Also, What if KP's fucking with us by having us all townie hunting down other townies?

[Roy_D_Mylote]

I'm not. There was nothing new to say. I mean your post was "Talking makes you scummy, stop it." So, I mean, what? Now you'll probably say that since I responded I'm scum trying to cover myself. I mean, really, you've not thought things out this game, have you?

[Cephrir]

Unvote: B_real
Because I can, and it doesn't matter!
Revote: B_terrible_speller:D
Because he spelled my name wrong!

[P-Sleazy]

SEE! he conveniently shows up when his names called. Burn him at the stake. It seems awfully...convenient. He's a very convenient man that Roy. Always poking his nose when his name is called. Finding the baddies. Why, If I didn't know any better, I'd say he got the PO role agian!

EDIT: CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!! CEPHIR!!!!


Because I can! Thats right, you heard me Cephrir, I can!

Also, since things aren't gonna save me in 30 minutes...howsabout we kill me off already KP?

[Fenris]

SEE! he conveniently shows up when his names called. Burn him at the stake. It seems awfully...convenient. He's a very convenient man that Roy. Always poking his nose when his name is called. Finding the baddies. Why, If I didn't know any better, I'd say he got the PO role agian!
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee stupidity.

Don't reveal who you think is or isn't the PO. kthxbai.

[P-Sleazy]

That sounds almost TOOO PO like Fenris. Almost as if...you knew who the PO was...as if...the PO, IS infact Roy.

[Silly Kitty]

B_Real, Lord, if you are a townie you sure aren't acting one. If you have any idea who the PO is KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!

[Fenris]

That sounds almost TOOO PO like Fenris. Almost as if...you knew who the PO was...as if...the PO, IS infact Roy.
No, I'm telling you not to be a fucking dumbass. Is that too hard to understand? Never. EVER. Reveal. A. Town. Role. Unless. You. Have. A. Damn. Good. Reason. To. Do. So.

Example of a damn good reason: Thundergod Cid's in NPF Mafia, it secured victory for the town.

Example of a damn horrible reason: ANYTHING on Day 1.

[RedScar]

Because I looked back around my post... and then looked back around and saw the deadline... and then thought... Let's not be stupid.

UNVOTE: Neyo
VOTE: No lynch

[Fenris]

Because I looked back around my post... and then looked back around and saw the deadline... and then thought... Let's not be stupid.

UNVOTE: Neyo
VOTE: No lynch
No lynch is a bad idea, RedScar. The lynch is the only damn weapon the town has, 'sides the vig, BG, and PO. Squandering it on a No Lynch just gives the Mafiates a free kill.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

SEE! he conveniently shows up when his names called. Burn him at the stake. It seems awfully...convenient. He's a very convenient man that Roy. Always poking his nose when his name is called. Finding the baddies. Why, If I didn't know any better, I'd say he got the PO role agian!


Last time I got the PO Role, it was the broken one where I was never right. (Winky wink) And if I did have the PO role, you've just implicated yourself...

I now think he got the "drunken townie" role. But I'm not sure.

[Silly Kitty]

Fenris, words like "fucking dumbass" are unexceptable. Okay? Tone it down a bit. "Silly head" is much better.

[Fenris]

Fenris, words like "fucking dumbass" are unexceptable. Okay? Tone it down a bit. "Silly head" is much better.
Duly noted, but, with all due respect, you aren't the GO of the game. If KP or a mod has a problem with my language, then I will tone it down a bit. I am of the opinion that he is being a fucking dumbass, and I will call him such. Besides, calling him a "silly head" would make me sound quite ridiculous.

I am getting tired of repeating myself game after game on this issue. It's not that hard of a concept. Do not reveal suspected town roles.

=D?

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Calm down, childrens.

[Fenris]

Calm down, childrens.
Already done.

Y'know, it is possible for me to be sick and fucking tired of repeating myself, and remain calm. =D

And anyway, half hour until we find out B_real's role. And then we have to decipher what it means if he has one.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Yeah. Cause God knows our JERKFACE of a GM ain't gonna tell us anything. (rolleyes)

[Mr.G.Williams]

...So it would seem...

Hehe, B_real, tell me yer' role and I'll write you a lovely electric chair death =P

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

Just a note, but if you're 'sick and fucking tired' of an aspect of a game, that is a reason to cut back on the game, not a reason to take it out on other players.

And you know what I have a problem with? People not listening to Kit Kat, that's what I have a goddamn problem with! Seriously though, over the line. Clearly over the line. No point nor reason nor humor to it, you insulted him for the purpose of insulting him. That's a pretty good line, if you ask me.

Knock it off! There won't be a second asking of this.

-----

"N-no! No, please! I didn't do it... he did it! And him! Maybe him?" B_Real rambled incoherently into the proceeding mob, but it did no good. The mass of bodies crowded around him, nearly as dense as the murderous shouts in the air.

A scream pierced the air, and as the crowd dispersed, the body of B_Real, Tainted Townie lay broken in the streets.

I was expecting to do more, but House is on... DEAL WITH THAT! Anyway, it's night one. If your role involves telling me shit, you'll know. Do that... like... soon. ...Yeah.

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

A dark figure stalked through the mysts of town, hard eyes sweeping through the darkened mists. Form seeped through the mists; he followed and grabbed her by the neck, slamming her against the wall as she wiggled.

"WHO ARE YOU!?" he roared, madly. A second form appeared, coursing with power. The inquisitor turned, leaving his quarry to the back of the ally as he was held captive by the man's power.

"Come with me," he commanded. The inquisitor moved to follow but was interupted by a massive claw. Gore spilt through the alleyway as the torn body of FenrisWolf: Inquisitor, Cult Aligned was cast to the side like a ragdoll.

The second man ran from the beast as it howled, disappearing into the town, which in turn was punctured by another scream. Here, within the town square, the body of Ogianres: Town Priest, Town Aligned lay with only a hole in the back of his neck to tell the tale of how he died.

Local vigilante and hunter of the supernatural Abraham Van Helsing, passed by these scenes as he stalked his prey. They would have reassured him, if anything could; they told him his target was right. Van Helsing found the target walking swiftly down the main street of the town.

"Halt!" he called, approaching the man from behind, "You may hide your true form now, but you haven't fooled me! You did it!"

"What? No!" he said, turning to face Van Helsing. There was a short click and twang as the raised crossbow let loose, and the dull, wet thud of a silver crossbow bolt piercing the man's heart. As Van Helsing slipped into the night, so fell the body of Ryanderman: Vanilla Townie.

Thus is the sight at the start of Day Two. Ten to lynch, no deadline.

[Bailey]

From the looks of things, we just lost the PO and the doctor.

And the question now is: was the hobo a cultist yesterday, or was he killed immediately following induction?

[Arhra]

It is obvious from the content of the death post that Fenris was inducted this very night. Unfortunately it also seems we have a vig who was swayed by the spurious claims against Ryanderman.

We have lost two more roles, but it seems fortunate in the case of the Inquistor. In the hands of the cult he is too dangerous.

The 'tainted townie' role is presumably some sort of betray trigger. Becomes a werewolf if the werewolf numbers drop too low or something would be my guess.

While my suspicions of Major Blood remain and, indeed, I will grow more suspicious if he remains so inactive, I have someone else to accuse at this moment.

Vote: Cephrir

I have noticed that every single person Cephrir has voted for thus far is town allied (perhaps not in B_Real's case) and dead. Now, seeing how two of these kills were by a lynching and that Helsing fellow, I am not saying it is a direct consequence. It simply shows that he has yet to vote for any non townies.

Thus far, he has voted for the following people: Ryanderman, Fenris and B_Real

Now, this alone isn't enough to draw anything from, but he also voted for Fenris in what looked like bandwagoning. His reasons were presented jokingly as Fenris insulting the GO, but he was the third person to vote for Fenris. He also voted for Fenris for the exact same reason SK did. Now, this early in the game, even just three votes could be enough to get someone lynched. I suspect Cephrir is a werewolf.

EDIT: Corrected facts about kills from serial killer and vig to lynch and vig.

[Cephrir]

I'm pretty sure he was not cult yesterday. Notice how "Who are you?" is in yellow, meaning that he's town-aligned when he says it. And I guess the Voodoo Priest wasn't the vig, cause the vig's definitely still alive.

Edit: Ninja'd

[Cephrir]

Edit: Sorry for double posting, I didn't mean to.
My vote for Ryanderman was unquestionably part of the random voting stage, and the vote for Fenris was only on page 6, also during day 1, where things like that happen. The fact that I voted for B_real is hardly an accusation. He was crazy, or something, and a lot of people voted for him, not just me.

[Arhra]

For me, the hinging fact is that you were bandwagoning Fenris.

You were the third vote. Newb (who I must admit I also hold some suspicions about) voted him first for being a hobo. SK voted him second for insulting the GO - although it appeared to be tongue in cheek. You then voted Fenris for the exact same reason. Looks like bandwagoning to me.

Finally, there's just sometihng that sets me off in this little line of yours:Arhra is saying that probably only the non-scum roles were exchanged not the scum ones. So if B_real was scum before, he still is, assuming Arhra is correct. The game thus far would be pointless otherwise.
Any scum want to clarify for us?:DThat grin on the end. It suggests an in-joke to me.

[Cephrir]

Finally, there's just sometihng that sets me off in this little line of yours:That grin on the end. It suggests an in-joke to me.

Actually, I meant that scum wouldn't perk up and say, "Oh yes, I'm the mafia don, and my role wasn't changed."

And nobody actually expected Fenris to be lynched through that. Is 3 the magic number that makes it bandwagoning and not random?

[Death by Stabbing]

You know there have been people who have been strangely silent through out the game...like those who didn't vote during the last round...and then there were those who felt the need to mightly defend themselves from B_Real's onslaught of accusations...put this together with the fact that KP is a crafty person who would give roles to everyone not just the people he tolerates...and this is a really tough game right here...


By the way when can we start voting again?

DBS

[Cephrir]

Considering that Arhra is voting for me, I have to wonder if you read the last page. Yes, we can vote now.

[Bailey]

For me, the hinging fact is that you were bandwagoning Fenris.

You were the third vote. Newb (who I must admit I also hold some suspicions about) voted him first for being a hobo.

Come on now Arhra, there's no profit in suspecting me for a game-starting rando-vote.

However, I take your points about Cephrir and MajorBlood.

They stand some looking into.

[Arhra]

Newb, it is not so much the Fenris vote as it is just a vague suspicion. Having nothing really concrete, I didn't want to really go into detail in case it was unfounded.

Quite simply Cephrir, it is the fact that someone had three votes on them so early in the game that made me suspicious. The first two can just be coincidence, but higher than that begins to look suspicious.

EDIT: Editted for clarity

[Salookanana]

I'm pretty sure he was not cult yesterday. Notice how "Who are you?" is in yellow, meaning that he's town-aligned when he says it.
No, I'm sure that was Ogianres last words.

Methinks that tainted townie means someone who tries to get people to vote for innocents. Or something else, like a backup werewolf.

[Bailey]

Newb, it is not so much the Fenris vote as it is just a vague suspicion. Having nothing really concrete, I didn't want to really go into detail in case it was unfounded.

Bah!

I'd enquire further, but I don't think that there's much profit in that either.



Seeing as how I've got nothing better to go on, I'll vote: MajorBlood for his non-postyness.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

The 'tainted townie' role is presumably some sort of betray trigger. Becomes a werewolf if the werewolf numbers drop too low or something would be my guess.


It's like the "drunk townie" role, from my understanding. He had to vote for an innocent person every time, at random.

[Salookanana]

That would explain his last words quite well, actually.

And since we dont have too many suspects I will hold off on voting until I see more evidence of scummy behavior.

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

Actually, I'll explain this one, because I'm particularly happy with it.

During my role switching, I always knew I was going to take away B_Real's role. Because of the helpful number, I didn't change him to the cult leader out of irony, instead, I secured against the idea that his own crappy-ass arguments wouldn't get him lynched.

In short, Tainted Townie registers as whatever scum I feel like when he's investigated.

[Death by Stabbing]

I'm going to vote for Inbred Chocobo

His lack of posting is highly suspicious since he totally always does....
DBS

[Inbred Chocobo]

Eh. I got nothing to say.

Seriously though, I am drawing blanks.

Quit looking at me like that.

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

Cephrir (1)
Arhra

Inbred Chocobo (1)
Death by Stabbing

Ten to lynch. Deadline: real friggin soon if people keep this not-posting thing up.

[Mr.G.Williams]

I think better with a deadline.
Vote: Greg Williams

...I'm tired, mkay?

[Roy_D_Mylote]

I wish you'd stop doing that.

[Zeriphor]

Why do you care if he votes for himself? At least he's not voting for you.

[Silly Kitty]

Vote: KP's mom's face

I DUNNO WHY!

[Cephrir]

Vote: IC
If the deadline happens while I'm not on, I'd prefer not to die. There's really no case against him, especially since 9 people have posted less than him, but I don't care.

[neyo the king]

NOTE: Sorry for the absence, my phone died out, and I was internetless for a couple days.

Zeriphor, if he votes for himself, that might be suspicous to some people (I know I find it suspicious), and suspicions = voting = lynching = possibly one less townie = bad. That's the way I see it, anyway.

And so, I turn to my inner thoughts to see if I can pull anything out of the eternal void I call a mind. And oh-ho what do we have here?

...

Whoops, wrong void.

...Ah-ha, here it is!

Our PO has died by the hands of the SK (not SK herself (although, maybe)), judging by the hole in the back of his neck. It seems that Helsing is our friendly neighborhood Vig, as well. But, I ask you, what is the priest? I've never heard of a role "doctor" before. Unless he's the PO, then I don't know what Inquisitor is. Some clarificationh would be pleasent, thank you.

Now, then, to the matter at hand, of who. To that matter, I have nothing. On Day 1, all I hade was that I didn't think B_real was scummy enough to warrent a vote, but that's ancient history now... And the only people I find even remotly scummy are:

RedScar, for his voting for me, and his few posts and participation.

Zeriphor, for his few posts and lack of participation so far.

Major Blood, for his no posts.

and Cephrir, for above post.

Other than them, I got nothing. And I certinaly have nothign strong enough to warrent a vote.

EDIT: Ninja'd and added person to list, bolded people on list for easier reading.

[Cephrir]

Actually, Major Blood has 2 posts. Of those who aren't me, I have been slightly suspicious of RedScar, because both of his posts were scummy, although I think he may just be new.
Pinky of Suspicion: RedScar

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Why do you care if he votes for himself? At least he's not voting for you.

Why do you care that I care?


and Cephrir, for above post

Wanting to live is suspicious?

[Sithdarth]

Our PO has died by the hands of the SK (not SK herself (although, maybe)), judging by the hole in the back of his neck. It seems that Helsing is our friendly neighborhood Vig, as well. But, I ask you, what is the priest? I've never heard of a role "doctor" before. Unless he's the PO, then I don't know what Inquisitor is. Some clarificationh would be pleasent, thank you.

Actually, Fenris was torn to pieces and was the PO I believe. The priest which I believe was the BG/doctor whatever had the hole in his neck.

Zeriphor, for his few posts and lack of participation so far.

Major Blood, for his no posts.

I'd like to call into question the motivation for thinking of these as scummy. For several reasons really. First the absence of CrazyBen who also hasn't posted. The second is that I myself have participated and posted little and yet did not appear on the list. Just seems to me Neyo might not be telling us everything about his motivations.

Now I'm not going to make a judgement on anything here because there is not much to make a judgement on. But it does seem mighty strange to me.

Edit: I just noticed that Major Blood does infact have two posts. So that's even worse for Neyo.

[neyo the king]

Actually, Sith, I forgot you were playing. And I didn't even know CrazyBen was playing. That's why you two not on my list.

And, I'm not saying that these people are going to get a vote if they so much as breath sideways, I'm just stating my thoughts, which I really don't have in any certian order. Those are just the people who have caught my attention somehow. As for me not telling my motivations, the fact of the matter is, I really don't have any.

To Roy: It was actually how he worded it, not just what he said. Plus, you know, he said he had no case against him. If it were me, I would have voted for someone I had someting against, or maybe ask why I was being voted for, or try to not be voted for, or something other than just "I vote for... you because I don't want to die."

Just, you know, a matter of opinion.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Oh, yeah, okay, I totally get that.

[Bailey]

So very tired.

Can't explain right now.

unvote: MajorBlood
vote: Caphrir

http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432207#post432207
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432296#post432296
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432335#post432335
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432474#post432474
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432486#post432486
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432524#post432524
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432555#post432555
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432781#post432781
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433098#post433098
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433216#post433216
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433241#post433241
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433260#post433260
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433464#post433464
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433466#post433466
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433469#post433469
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433471#post433471
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433857#post433857
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433865#post433865

[Death by Stabbing]

So very tired.

Can't explain right now.

unvote: MajorBlood
vote: Caphrir

http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432207#post432207
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432296#post432296
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432335#post432335
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432474#post432474
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432486#post432486
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432524#post432524
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432555#post432555
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432781#post432781
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433098#post433098
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433216#post433216
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433241#post433241
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433260#post433260
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433464#post433464
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433466#post433466
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433469#post433469
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433471#post433471
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433857#post433857
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433865#post433865


You're full of crap Newb!
*walks in to an exposed lightbulb*
*bzzzzt*
You make a persuasive argument Newb!

Unvote: IC
Vote: Cephrir

DBS

[Cephrir]

I'm not sure how he can possibly do either of those things, given that he made no argument whatsoever.

For me, the hinging fact is that you were bandwagoning Fenris.

You were the third vote. Newb (who I must admit I also hold some suspicions about) voted him first for being a hobo. SK voted him second for insulting the GO - although it appeared to be tongue in cheek. You then voted Fenris for the exact same reason. Looks like bandwagoning to me.


This is still the only argument against me. It's pretty weak reasoning and we all know it. This is really turning into a huge bandwagon based on a random vote that I made previously. Since it doesn't matter anymore, Unvote:IC

I have a feeling that since there is nobody else besides nonposters could be lynched, I'm going to be lynched for the sake of lynching someone. And since according to Arhra, 3 is the vote that makes it a bandwagon, DBS is bandwagoning. FoS: DBS for exactly the same reason I'm being attacked. So either neither of us or both of us is doing something wrong, because it's not just me.

[Death by Stabbing]

I'm not sure how he can possibly do either of those things, given that he made no argument whatsoever.



This is still the only argument against me. It's pretty weak reasoning and we all know it. This is really turning into a huge bandwagon based on a random vote that I made previously. Since it doesn't matter anymore, Unvote:IC

I have a feeling that since there is nobody else besides nonposters could be lynched, I'm going to be lynched for the sake of lynching someone. And since according to Arhra, 3 is the vote that makes it a bandwagon, DBS is bandwagoning. FoS: DBS for exactly the same reason I'm being attacked. So either neither of us or both of us is doing something wrong, because it's not just me.


First of all have you not seen the first episode of Futurama?

Ok bandwagoning means doing it for no reason...I voted for you because as I said Newb makes a persuasive argument...I have weighed my options and since I originall voted for IC just for the hell of it and was going to change my vote anyways...the things that Newb linked made me feel you were suspicious


What's will all the covering your ass Cephrir? You seem to be making a lot of hubub about how you aren't one of the Mafia...That makes me even more suspicious...and it should tip everyone else off...if Newb's links didn't...

DBS

PS I tried to find you the first episode on You Tube but after 45 minutes or so I got bored and you can look for it yourself...kthxbye

[Cephrir]

What's will all the covering your ass Cephrir? You seem to be making a lot of hubub about how you aren't one of the Mafia...That makes me even more suspicious...and it should tip everyone else off...if Newb's links didn't...


Um, yeah, regardless of my role, I'm going to defend myself from any accusations. It's not scummy to defend myself.

Anyway, I wasn't really suspicious of you so much as I was making a point, that you're just as guilty as I am of Arhra's accusations, and I have no reason to believe that you are scum except what I'm being accused of, which you just did. It does not neccessarily mean that we are scum.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

So very tired.

Can't explain right now.

unvote: MajorBlood
vote: Caphrir

http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432207#post432207
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432296#post432296
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432335#post432335
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432474#post432474
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432486#post432486
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432524#post432524
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432555#post432555
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=432781#post432781
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433098#post433098
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433216#post433216
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433241#post433241
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433260#post433260
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433464#post433464
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433466#post433466
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433469#post433469
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433471#post433471
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433857#post433857
http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=433865#post433865

Dear Newb: Using a person's every post in the thread is not an argument. Love Roy.

Dear DbS: Agreeing with someone who isn't making an argument, and saying they have an argument, is folly. Voting the same as that person is then bandwagoning. Love Roy.

[Bailey]

Alright, not so tired now.

When I'm tired I have a harder time explaining things well, and I figured that saying my argument would come later and then posting it later would be more effective in convincing people than posting a badly structured argument and trying to fix it later.


On day one, Cephrir doesn't actually ever really say anything. Oh, he has a bunch of posts, but go look at one. His reason for voting B_real is apparently that we can't lynch two people. Which we already know, and isn't really a reason.

He also rehashes things that other people say to look like he's saying something once or twice, and he attacked people for talking about the GO.

In short: He's not really contributing anything, just running around trying to throw votes at as many people as possible.

To me, this looks like Serial Killer behavior.

Or he could be a drunk townie, in which case we really don't need him tipping scales anyway.

[Arhra]

Actually Cephrir, I meant that being the third person to vote for someone who hasn't really done anytthing yet on the first day with spurious reasons that are a repeat of someone else's reasons looks quite bandwagony to me.

You also claim that bandwagoning is the only argument against you and is quite weak. I will summarise the current arguments:

-Everyone Cephrir has voted for has proven to be town alligned
-Voting for Fenris on the first day looked bandwagony
-As Newb's post listing shows, Cephrir generally seems to be just repeating other peoples' arguments for lynching.
-Cephrir seems very defensive
-His name starts with C, obviously displaying his cult allegience.

Now, all but one of these arguments are reasonable for suspicion, but aren't really enough to implicate someone on their own. Taken as a whole however, it does look much more suspicious.

[Bailey]

It was the fifth point that really convinced me though.

[Death by Stabbing]

Ok if Newb's mass ammounts of proof aren't good enough for you and my reasoning behind why I voted the same as someone else (which I notice you have done), Roy...how about the fact the he slams people for bandwagoning when he has done it himself (the fithth point that Newb mentioned is an example of this)...If people are looking for a scummy action, again, then I'd say that hypocracy is something we can all vote against.

Love,
DBS

[Bailey]

Uhhhhhh, I was talking about Arhra's fifth point, that Cephrir starts with C.

Did you mean the fifth post I linked, in which he unvotes Fenris and votes B_real?

[Death by Stabbing]

Yup that's the post I was talking about

[Bailey]

Okay, because you said point rather than post.

I was just a little thrown off there.

[Major Blood]

If any of you were wondering why i'm not posting, it's because i don't have anything to say. If i did, i would post.

That is all.

[Bailey]

MB, you have no idea how suspicious that sounds.

I'm just going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you were drunk when you joined the game and didn't actually want to play or something.