The CRAPPIEST game

[Supreme Edgemaster]

In contrast to Denevire's "The ULTIMATE game", what do you think makes a bad game? What game would you vie for the crappiest game? And please don't say E.T. for the Atari 2600 because I've heard that thousands of times. I think what makes a bad game is...

1) Bad Storyline (A must in any bad game)
2) Shoddy Controls (Can be taken many ways)
3) Boring/Repetitive Gameplay (It's gotta be fresh)
4) Bad Graphics (I know graphics aren't everything but decent ones are nice to have)
5) Poor Music/No Music (Gotta have the ambience in the background)

If anyone has anything to add, I'd welcome it.

Finally the WORST GAME EVER: Final Fantasy IX. I just never really got into the repetiveness of the game.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

One word:

Rampage!

It has no plot.
You press left and right (mostly just right), and hit one button.
You hit buildings. That's all there is.
It's 2D and hasn't changed it's graphics EVER!
As far as I can remember the music (if any) was pure mediocre to the extreme.

I think that conforms to everything you stated as making a bad game.

[Fenris]

Finally the WORST GAME EVER: Final Fantasy IX. I just never really got into the repetiveness of the game.
You sir, are dead to me.

Hm, for the worst game, I'd have to go for a game that, well, is immensely vapid.

And that's about it. A game has to be interesting to be good, and a game that isn't, just sucks.

EDIT: Also, no buttrock. You know what I mean.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

E.T the Extra Terrestrial for the Atari

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

E.T the Extra Terrestrial for the Atari

Didn't that put Atari out of business? I think it was made in a month by one guy, so no wonder.

[Bear]

It had to be done (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNpLXo55yfw)


Rampage wasn't bad, but it's definatly past it's prime, that's for sure.
(by the way, never played zelda cd-i, but c'mon!)

[Azisien]

Finally the WORST GAME EVER: Final Fantasy IX. I just never really got into the repetiveness of the game.

And beyond being dead to Fenriswolf, I have to conclude you really haven't played many games.

Some of my bottom of the barrels:
-Runescape
-Shenmue II (And I have a sneaking suspicion Shenmue I too)
-Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball

Well, those three come to mind easily. If you can look in a mirror and claim Runescape is better than Final Fantasy IX, well, make sure I'm not in the room because I'll probably kill your family.

[Astral Harmony]

Hmmmm...

Overpowered Bosses - You know these fuckers. Even in Easy or Beginner Mode (which is usually given when you've lost to these bastards five or so times), you'll still fall prey to 'em at least twenty more times before throwing the controller at the screen and looking up gamefaqs or digging out cheatcodes.
Horrible Voicework - This isn't actually that bad to me. Sometimes I do want to be laughing my ass off when playing games like the House of the Dead series, and their voicework is just hilarious in spite of the fact that it's supposed to be survival horror.
High EXP Requirements/Random Encounter Ratios - I like having really powerful RPG characters, and games which require you to amass monumental amounts of EXP to level up can really make a game intolerable to play for long amounts of time. As for high encounter ratios, that can be rather frustrating. Skies of Arcadia is notorious for their high rate of encounters in the field.
Overpowered Enemies - Sometimes it's not just the bosses. Sometimes the regular enemies are too difficult to take down. I'm not talking about good AI. I'm talking about the ability of an enemy to not friggin' die when I'm doing all that is within my character's power to fight them.
Poor Character Creation - If you're going to give us the ability to create our own characters, then make it so we can actually create characters similar, if not exactly like what we want. Too few options for character creation makes me not want to bother with creation at all.

[Fifthfiend]

One word:

Rampage!

It has no plot.
You press left and right (mostly just right), and hit one button.
You hit buildings. That's all there is.
It's 2D and hasn't changed it's graphics EVER!
As far as I can remember the music (if any) was pure mediocre to the extreme.

I think that conforms to everything you stated as making a bad game.

I can only hope this is supposed to be sarcasm.

Anyway - Shaq Fu.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/Shaq_Fuboxart.JPG

I mean come on.

[Dwarfburg citizen]

-Shenmue II (And I have a sneaking suspicion Shenmue I too)



Finally the WORST GAME EVER: Final Fantasy IX. I just never really got into the repetiveness of the game.

You both should know better! The Shemue games were works of art! ART I tell you!!! And as for you you FFIX hater...You sir, are dead to me.

As for worst game ever?

Big Rigs: Over the road racing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpe2JrsbW9I)

Sorry for the low quality video but you dont need a high quality video to see whats wrong with that game.

[BitVyper]

I like it when the truck starts driving straight up a cliff face.

Edit: Ditto about anti-FFIX guy being dead and all. That's one of the few GOOD FF games.

[Mondt]

And beyond being dead to Fenriswolf, I have to conclude you really haven't played many games.No kidding. How is it any more repetitive than the other FFs? (Don't answer that)

If a game has a terrible beginning, it's not good to me. It can have an amazing, intricate, complex yet somehow easy to understand storyline, but if it's dull to begin with, then the whole storyline just dies.

To me.

[Regulus Tera]

-Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball

...like anyone here bought it to play with it. At least using the common meaning of gameplay.

[Azisien]

...like anyone here bought it to play with it. At least using the common meaning of gameplay.

Sadly, I know someone who did. At least, that's his public explanation.

[Random Ninja]

....

I know girls that have bought that game. And they're not gay. So...yeah. I'm sure some play it for the right reasons.

Worst game I've ever played: Magna Carta: Tears of Blood.

I couldn't get past the first mission, the gameplay was just so horrible. The graphics were sub-par, he combat system sucked (it's a freakin' RPG, you gotta try pretty hard to screw that up.) and the storyline and characters were pathetic.

Worst game I've seen: Rumble Roses.

That game makes DoAXBV look like game of the year.

[Fenris]

And as for you you FFIX hater...You sir, are dead to me.
Copycat. =P

Ah, I had forgotten about Big Rigs. I remember the X-Play review. I want that game just to make fun of how bad it is.

[Novasol]

You don't know pain until you've experienced Captain Novolin or AD&D Heroes of the Lance.

[lymerion]

Castlequest.

A game so bad I had trouble beating it even when cheating. Practically unbeatable otherwise. I know it's possible (there's a speedrun of it on the internet somewhere), it's just not worth the truly mind-numbing pain of the experience.

1) Story is incredibly cliched.
2) Controls suck.
3) Gameplay sucks.
4) Graphics (even for NES standards) suck.
5) Music really sucks (there's only 4-5 actual tracks, and they're all irritating as hell).
6) Game/Level design sucks. Hard. Think about this: The game starts you out with 50 (FIFTY!) lives. The game was designed so poorly that you need at least that many in order to complete it.

If you can beat it on actual hardware, without cheating, AND without inserting the controller into the TV, then I hereby declare you a gaming god.

[Mirai Gen]

Damn, someone posted Big Rigs before I could.

Sadly, I know someone who did. At least, that's his public explanation.

Dude, that's everyone's explanation.

[gurusloth]

The story behind Big Rigs is that someone at the company screwed up major and sent a very early beta version of the game in place of the final version to the game printing factory. The actual final version of the game was never released to the public, but supposedly it is actually a playable game and not a total piece of shite.

[Azisien]

Dude, that's everyone's explanation.

Thing is, he's really adamant about getting it for the volleyball, and it's not like we're hiding the fact that we...So yeah, maybe he actually did get it for the volleyball. And in that vein, it's a crappy game, so he reports and I've seen.

[LordSemaj]

Bah... now I wish I had my Game Informers. I remember there was this one game that they actually rated as like a zero. It sounded awful.

[Tyrazial]

I vote Kabuki Warriors as the -worst- game ever. Came out for the xbox. It was dull, the music was shoddy. Same repetitive thing. All you do is pick from a bunch of similar looking stage actors and stage battle. There's no combos, no flashy graphics. It is boring. Worst game ever.

And btw, FF IX is 2nd in the finfan series only to FF VI (the SNES Version was named Final Fantasy 3).

it -did- get zero in a bunch of ratings.. that or half-stars at the most.

[The Wandering God]

Maple Story.

I played it for about an hour, than realized I was grinding in gameplay that simply was boring as hell. Sometimes, there are reasons why a game is free.

Oh, and Predator: Concrete Jungle. Thanks for taking a truly awesome concept, than ruining it.

The Wandering God

[Mirai Gen]

Thing is, he's really adamant about getting it for the volleyball, and it's not like we're hiding the fact that we...So yeah, maybe he actually did get it for the volleyball. And in that vein, it's a crappy game, so he reports and I've seen.
Why I thought it sucked was because the gift-giving system was a complete nightmare. I swear at one point my roommate walked home just as I screamed "KASUMI YOU BITCH!"

That prissy ninja bitch threw away everything.

[Random Ninja]

You know there's a DOA Volleyball 2, right? On the 360?

What I don't understand is why DOA, being such a popular fighting game in Japan, is on a microsoft consol, which everyone in Japan fuckin' HATES!

[Kitana Paladine]

Unlimited SaGa... I loved SaGa Frontier-absolutely loved it. When I heard Unlimited SaGa would have multiple charries to choose from like SF, I wanted it. Tried playing it... tried EVERY character in the game... Gods above and below, that game SUCKS! Even the easiest character is harder than hell. I gave it to my brother to turn in for store credit. And what was worse, after it was turned in, I looked up FAQs for each character, and found out they ALL have the same final boss.... That sucks even more. Glad I don't have it anymore.

[Denivire]

First off, thanks for mentioning my best game ever post.
As for worst game, too many come to mind except Maelstrom IV for the SNES, so i'll just say the things inside them that make me want to shoot the game.
Well, for Maelstrom, it was the fact that the alignment thing where characters can be good, evil or neutral, was f***ed. No other word choice suits it. You could walk threw one door and have someone in the party turn evil for no reason, walk down the corridor, and suddenly he's good again. How the HELL do people do that in real life!?
And to keep the list short, I won't state why I hate the following features:
Sports games(read signature), poor storyline, childish graphics, poor vocal scripts, bad layouts(eg. a health bar that is 7 health bars in one, and you don't know for a long time), lack of customization, lack of good multiplayer to make up for crummy single layer, ammount of weapon and/or armour's to choose from(armour because I'm from Canada),and anti-cheating systems that don't work. There's nothing worse then playing a multi-player game where everyone is the same and some random ass activiates a speed hack and wipes out your entire team before you see him (or her). Cheats that are not made into the game when sold should not be used <.<.

[Satan's Onion]

We must never forget... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_the_Unlikely)

Need I remind you all? One of the most horrible games ever made...and I had the misfortune to pick it up for $5 out of a bargain bin. I couldn't even return it...does anyone need an SNES cartridge for target practice, or as a doorstop?

[Supreme Edgemaster]

As to all you final fantasy fanatics, I just didn't like final fantasy IX and with good reason. There is a good reason and this is it.
Originally posted be EGM in a magazine
Although Final fantasy IX has many strong points, ie. graphics, it just doesn't stand up compared to other entries in the series. # 9 in the 9 game series.

That is proof.

EDIT: looked at the article again and original quote was incorrect.

[Astral Harmony]

To admit to it, I didn't like Final Fantasy IX, either. There's nothing wrong with the game. It's just that, compared to IV and VIII and (given that I seem to be falling in love with each fourth game) XII, IX just didn't draw me in as much.

As for the ultimate crappy game I've played, I'd have to say that it's Murakumo: Renegade Mech Pursuit. To be honest, I wasn't expecting much, and got loads less. When a game can't even deliver the basic experience of what the name implies...just...ugh.

[largo833]

Unlimited SaGa... I loved SaGa Frontier-absolutely loved it. When I heard Unlimited SaGa would have multiple charries to choose from like SF, I wanted it. Tried playing it... tried EVERY character in the game... Gods above and below, that game SUCKS! Even the easiest character is harder than hell. I gave it to my brother to turn in for store credit. And what was worse, after it was turned in, I looked up FAQs for each character, and found out they ALL have the same final boss.... That sucks even more. Glad I don't have it anymore.

I second that. I first saw it at a friend's house, where he told me that a review he read gave it a 0.5/10. So, I read the manual a little, and figured, "It can't be that bad," so he let me borrow it. It took a few minutes to find that it deserved every point (or lack thereof.)

Recently, though, I went back to it, deciding that I would give it a chance and make sure to complete at least 1 level of 1 character's story.

I couldn't do it.

[Mirai Gen]

Unlimited SaGa wouldn't have been so bad, if it weren't for the fact that my friend got into it, and just through mashing the "Confirm" button, he was halfway through the first part of the pirate chick's storyline.

I'm like, "Have you done anything yet?"

[Random Ninja]

As to all you final fantasy fanatics, I just didn't like final fantasy IX and with good reason. There is a good reason and this is it.
Originally posted be EGM in a magazine

Although Final fantasy IX has many strong points, ie. graphics, it just doesn't stand up compared to other entries in the series. # 9 in the 9 game series.

That is proof.

EDIT: looked at the article again and original quote was incorrect.

Wait...so you didn't like a game because EGM told you not to?

Also, those guys don't know what they're talking about. First off, there are more then 9 FF's by the time FFIX came out, and secondly, some weren't released outside of Asia at that time, so they don't know what the f*ck they're talking about with that ranking.

Dumbass magazine douches.

[P-Sleazy]

Chrono Trigger. Here's why.

I mean look at that game. Original story line. New battle system for its time. The main hero does something noble. Cheesy love story. graphics are crap compared to what we have now. Who would want to deal with filthy peice of crap of a game?:sweatdrop Thats right Fifth. This was meant JUST for you.

[BitVyper]

Edit: Misread something. In any case, "EGM says so" isn't proof. Honestly, I'm not sure why you actually NEED proof to not like a game.

graphics are crap compared to what we have now.

All joking aside, I actually tend to prefer animated sprites to many of the 3D models we have now. The makers of Disgaea were right when they said the animated sprites are just more expressive.

[Fenris]

All joking aside, I actually tend to prefer animated sprites to many of the 3D models we have now. The makers of Disgaea were right when they said the animated sprites are just more expressive.
Indeed. It's amazing how much emotion a sprite can portray sometimes.

[Supreme Edgemaster]

to you Random Ninja, EGM was talking about the # 9 ranked in CONSOLE entries. Oh, and by the way, they did play the other 8 in the series and reviewed them through the EGM international section of the magazine. I still have do say that out of the games I've played, Final Fantasy IX is still the game that I enjoy the least. I didn't necessarily say that I hated it, I just said that I enjoyed it the least.

[Mirai Gen]

I didn't necessarily say that I hated it, I just said that I enjoyed it the least.
..."The CRAPPIEST game"

...I'm confused how a game you "enjoyed it the least" is the crappiest game in your book.

[Supreme Edgemaster]

Well. The crappiest game is the one I enjoyed the least in my book. Although others might have different definitions of "crappiest game", this is the way I define it.

[Dwarfburg citizen]

Lets not get into a flame war here. After all everyone is entitled to their own opinion. For example I cant stand card based RPGS so I dont like them at all. Sure there can be worse things but to me they suck. Culdcept being the only exception.

[greed]

Oblivion.

It's a FUCKING BETA!

[Random Ninja]

Lets not get into a flame war here.

FUK U NUB!

<3

Anyways, gaming magazines and TV shows can still be wrong. Alot of times they're twits and hardasses about things. I often watch reviews to see parts and features of the games, their own personal likes and dislikes about it come second.

FF 9 was good, but not amazing. I mean, I love sprite based RPGs but FFVI was probably my least favourite FF. People go 'How can you not love it? It was great!!" and..well...I just thought it was dull, the graphics were very depressing, the characters, for the most part, were flat, I never really cared about any of them. Celes tries to kill herself and I'm like '...ok...anyways...moving on.' I also found it to be ridiculously easy.

I blasted through most of the game in one sitting and didn't die once, I was hardly even challenged after the first hour. Also, the art was ugly. (The drawn sketches for the game.)

[OctoberRaven]

Superman 64. Utterly unplayable and makes Superman look like a nancy boy.

I sometimes like to joke that this game was made that bad on purpose because Superman is a dick. ("http://www.superdickery.com)

[Loneyes]

please don't say E.T. for the Atari 2600

I'm sorry, but I've played that game, and now, no other game will ever be considered bad in my eyes. It is the absolute worse of everything a game can be.

Everything about it made me want to burn the cartridge to watch the evil spirits fly out.

[Art of Hilt]

Ya know?
Rugrats. Any Rugrats on the GBC.
It can burn for all eternity for scarring my childhood with it's mediocrity.

[Magus]

Castlequest.

A game so bad I had trouble beating it even when cheating. Practically unbeatable otherwise. I know it's possible (there's a speedrun of it on the internet somewhere), it's just not worth the truly mind-numbing pain of the experience.

1) Story is incredibly cliched.
2) Controls suck.
3) Gameplay sucks.
4) Graphics (even for NES standards) suck.
5) Music really sucks (there's only 4-5 actual tracks, and they're all irritating as hell).
6) Game/Level design sucks. Hard. Think about this: The game starts you out with 50 (FIFTY!) lives. The game was designed so poorly that you need at least that many in order to complete it.

If you can beat it on actual hardware, without cheating, AND without inserting the controller into the TV, then I hereby declare you a gaming god.

Yes, Castlequest is the only game that can give my pick for the worst game of all time a run for its money.

My pick? As always it is

SPELUNKER (http://www.lanceandeskimo.com/chefelf/gam_spelunker.shtml)

Satan's game. A sure sign that there may be no God, but that Satan is alive and well. Torturous. Grueling. Unforgiving. Friday the 13th? E.T.? Captain Comic? These are but pale imitations of this monstrosity, this all prevailing blight upon existence, this Lord of CHAOS that is SPELUNKER.

[Redhawk]

Maple Story.

OH GOD YES.

You thought Runescape was a bad "free" MMORPG? Maple Story is about eleventy times worse.

"Here, let's say you're prepared to go to this big ol' island and then laugh while you get raped by a tree stump. Then, after you struggle to the town you chose for your profession, you discover that your stats aren't high enough! But we never told you where they needed to be! AHAHAHAHAHA!"

As for my original bad game, I would have to say Pokemon Snap. Incredibly repetitive and just not fun.

[Sir Pinkleton]

Dammit, I was hoping to be the one to mention Big rigs. anywho, I dislike 'BLOWOUT' for the Xbox as my second hated game. stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid game.
your a marine, go kill the aliens
controls were not too good
gameplay is platforming
graphics may be alright, but I still hate it
I think there's only one song throughout the game, I'm not going to check

Maybe not the worst, but the first one that comes to mind. they even had the final bosses be previous bosses youv'e already killed! not to mention that you fight the bosses in 3-d, but in 2-d controls? Bah!

EDIT: actually, any pokemon game after yellow. It's all the same you fools!

[xravi]

Dammit, I was hoping to be the one to mention Big rigs. anywho, I dislike 'BLOWOUT' for the Xbox as my second hated game. stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid game.
your a marine, go kill the aliens
controls were not too good
gameplay is platforming
graphics may be alright, but I still hate it
I think there's only one song throughout the game, I'm not going to check

Maybe not the worst, but the first one that comes to mind. they even had the final bosses be previous bosses youv'e already killed! not to mention that you fight the bosses in 3-d, but in 2-d controls? Bah!

EDIT: actually, any pokemon game after yellow. It's all the same you fools!

Well not really the pokemon games after yellow (Nnot counting ones beside the color ones.)

Like how gold and sliver is the same but Cystal is like the same game and exspansion and how ruby/shappire is the same but emrald is the same game and a exspamsion and how the remakes of red and blue were like the orginals but with more at the end. *Runs away and drops a note.@*

*On the note the words "Drake of the 99 dragons" appear then the paper self destructs.*

[Mr.Bookworm]

Raven. You are right. When I was six I thought it was a complete piece of shit.

I would have to say Enter the Matrix. The only thing I found pleasurable about it was entering all of the cheats and killing everything. I couldn't even get past the Airport level, because my console crashes every single time I get there.

Greed: FUCKING DIE YOU LITTLE BITCH!

[Monkeybonk]

Alright. First of all, I'm not going to chose any old games. There's pretty much DOZENS of horrible games made within the same short span of time when gaming was 'new'. Bible Adventures, the 'Custard Rapes an Indian' game, E.T., the list goes on.

My choice for the most terrible RECENT game goes to....

Oblivion

Now before I go further, I'll tell you this right now: I have a beast of a gaming rig. My comments about the graphics were NOT caused by 'low settings' or any bullshit like that. I'm talking 1920 x 1200 full settings w/ HDR and Bloom (horray ATI hack/patch).

Without further ado....

GRAPHICS: Oblivion's graphics were pretty amazing, I'll give you that. That is, the graphics were pretty amazing up to about 30 feet away. Also, they'd be pretty amazing if you were playing the UNRELEASED version of Oblivion that Bethesda used to create every screenshot, advertisement, and promotional video, before they silently stripped out many of the 'promised' features without telling anyone. Where's the object shadows we saw in all the videos? Like I said, the game looks good as long as you don't really ever look too carefully at the 'Distant Terrain'. That is, the 'distant terrain' is composed of a horribly artifacted low-resolution blurry 'texture' that not only looks like complete crap, but usually doesn't even match the same elevation of the 'real' terrain. All too-often you'll see the 'distant' terrain floating above the area in front of you, only to dissapear when the 'real' terrain loads. Next there's characters themselves. While NPC textures aren't too shabby, character animations are only somewhat improved over Morrowind's infamous "stick up the ass" waddle-walk. And don't even get me started on the jumping animation. Finally, characters are made of the 'segmented bodies' that were used in Morrowind. In many cases, this can lead to very obvious seams along joints, making the characters look like action figures.

To complete the graphical dissapointment are the LIMITLESS amounts of utterly untapped ideas. While it's unfair to hold 'missed potential' against a game, it simply cannot be overlooked. Bodies of water are void of anything to look at such as ambient fish (not to mention the water itself is about as clear as an oil slick when you swim under it). There's absolutely NO ambience at all. No birds, no passive wildlife outside of deer, nothing of the sort. The complete lack of attention to detail here makes the game world feel very dull and dead. (It should be mentioned, however, that at least ONE mod adds these things to the game - a well-funded studio given five years was unable to include these things at all, and yet one man working for free creates it in a few weeks in his spare time?)

SOUND: Sound should be the easiest catagory to place in, and I can't say a whole lot against it, except for the biggest, most glaring strike against the game: Voice Acting. The voiceovers are simply atrocious. Bethesda has, not counting the 'unique' voices (Patrick Stewart, Viggo Whatshisname), only a handful of voice actors. There are, what, 10 races in the game? And HALF of them share NOT ONLY the same voice actor, but the same VOICE. In Morrowind, Dark ElF males had raspy voices. In Oblivion, they sound like everyone else. On top of it all, many of the male voices sound awfuly... well... "that way".

It gets worse. Not only do the NPCs all share the same lame dialog, but even THAT'S screwed up. Many times you'll find a character whose voice will change COMPLETELY between dialog choices.

GAMEPLAY: Oh christ here we go.

This game has GOT to be a fucking JOKE. First, I'd like everyone to remember that Oblivion took 5 years to develop.

Now I don't even know where to start, this game is so fucking BROKEN.

Oblivion is a role-playing game the same way Everquest or World of Warcraft are RPGs. I'm not going to play bullshit semantics here with the definition of a role-playing game. Go play Fallout 2 if you want to see what a REAL RPG is like. Oblivion has no consequences for your decisions. There are effectively no decisions in the game to be made ANYWAY! Oblivion is, actually, closer to a first-person DIABLO then it is to, say, Planescape: Torment. Effectively, the game is based around NOT role-playing, but simply hack-and-slashing your way through randomly-generated and level-dependent content.

Yes, the content. Bethesda decided that in order to both save a TON of time, a SHITLOAD of money, AND to take the easiest way out (because balancing a game is a lot of work), EVERYTHING IN THE GAME SHOULD BE LEVEL-DEPENDENT. In other words, at Level 1, you run into weak enemies. Everywhere. At level 20, you run into strong enemies. EVERYWHERE. This means that the penniless drunks down at the bar in town will be carrying DAEDRIC WEAPONS, the most rare, powerful, and expensive weapons in Elder Scrolls lore (outside of artifact weapons, of course). You will run into Bandits you will demand 100 gold from you while wearing armor worth THOUSANDS of gold. And forget about causing some havoc with your new-found weapon. City guards are ALWAYS 10 levels higher then you (which begs the question why THEY aren't out saving the world, seeing as how they're better then you), and around the time you find good weapons and armor, even your basic citizen will have a few hundred hitpoints.

Speaking of good weapons and armor, those are ALSO scaled to your level. This means that at low levels, you ONLY find low-level gear. At high levels, you ONLY find high-level gear. Searching for treasure is pointless, because you won't find it - the game has decided that your level is too low and, inside that chest guarded by the Minotaur Lord that took you an HOUR to get to, you will find 8 gold, a lockpick, and some Tongs.

Next up is the game world. Effectively there are three different types of 'worlds' in the game. Dungeons, the Overworld, and Oblivion.
- Dungeons: I've never seen a game actually FAIL at creating dungeons. I've seen games where dungeons (caves, Ayleid ruins, tombs, etc) were poorly designed or overpowered, but never have I seen a role-playing game make them POINTLESS. Yes, that's right. There is NO reason to look inside a dungeon, because unlike Morrowind or Baldur's Gate, or any REASONABLE game, you won't find phat lewt inside after a difficult fight through maybe some sort of boss. I've already stated why - they are all level-scaled, making EVERY dungeon similar to the last, until you level up. If you're lucky enough to level across a 'threshold' where NEW enemies spawn, suddenly the world will become extinct of the weaker ones. POOF.

Secondly, the dungeons themselves are practically coma-inducing. Every dungeon in the game is literally made of pre-fabricated rooms and hallways glued together in different formats. Way to use some ingenuity there Bethesda. Wouldn't want you to put some EFFORT into your game, would we.

- Oblivion is without a doubt the best part of the game, because it's the most realistic. You see, the plane of Oblivion is like hell in The Elder Scrolls. Bethesda wisely made Oblivion SO boring, repetitive, and visually bland (If you don't think shiny black rock, lava, and bodies hanging around can get bland, you just wait) that you actually feel like you are in hell! Oh yes, you will get sick of the Oblivion plane. You might not think the first few gates are bad, but after the 15th or so... and you see, every gate is the same as the last. You go inside, head for the EXACT SAME-LOOKING TOWER you went into last time, go up the almost EXACT SAME FLOORPLAN as last time, and destroy it the EXACT SAME WAY you destroyed the last dozen gates.

- The Overworld. Without a doubt, the most cliche part of this game. The game world is styled after medieval Europe - the most cliche RPG setting in the universe. I'll bet you I could give Oblivion to some space-travellers from another galaxy and they'd give it back saying "Yeah I'm sick of trees and castles". That's effectively all the game is - trees and castles. However, this has to be said about the gameworld flora. Every time you look around at the trees and grass, it's like you're seeing them again for the first time. Because you are. 90% of Cyrodiil looks EXACTLY like the first little bit you see when you leave the sewer. There are only two three types of terrain. Trees and Grass, Less Trees and Snow, and Less Trees and More Grass. Also there's water. Which counts. Almost.

CONTROLS: How the fuck does a game in 2006 screw up GAME CONTROLS? I don't know, but Oblivion did it. The game stinks of 'dumbed-down for Xbox kids', and the control scheme reflects this. The controls are limited, you only have 8 hotkeys with no choice of modifier keys, and the interface is a bloated, gigantic monstrosity (in case you're wondering, it does NOT scale with resolution allowing you to see more of it at high-res, and it was made so you could read it from your couch. 15 feet away from your screen. While asleep.)

Oblivion has so little going FOR it, it's not even worth mentioning. Almost EVERY aspect of this game was a complete joke. I'm sick of writing this so I'm going to stop, but there's so much more I've left unsaid. I didn't even get started on the LAUGHABLE "Radiant AI" (which is ALMOST the dumbest AI I've ever seen), or the 'dumbed-down' features. Even their 'official mods' they CHARGE for should be considered a federal crime.

I don't even think I got on my biggest complain - the complete lack of CHOICES when it comes to quests and dialog. Yes, almost EVERY quest and dialog 'tree' is more linear and railroaded then a Valve game.


IN conclusion, Oblivion is a crap game made for simpletons, fanboys, and ADHD kids who hate their brains. Without a doubt the worst 'mainstream' game of this century.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Hey. I enjoyed Drake of the 99 Dragons. The game I hated the most? Hard to say; probably one of the Tony Hawk games. Because I hate their storylines. But I love their music.

And I did not like the last about half of Halo. I mean, what? A "follow the guy" quest in an FPS? No. Just...no.

[Impulse]

I can't believe people forgot this one

Mario is Missing! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VieV7iDgo4)

This whole game is basically a geography test, complete with no gameplay. There's also another called "Mario's Time Machine" which is basically the same but with history, except WORSE (You literally have to take a REAL fill-in-the-blank history test before you get to do anything)

There's also another terrible CDi game that often gets overlooked

Mario Hotel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS956FdMPfc)

[ArlanKels]

According to OPM(Official Playstation Magazine) Spec Ops for the PS1 was one of the worst games ever released for it. I found it to be a mildly enjoyable, albiet it highly flawed, video game.

However, as for the worst game in my own personal opinion? I would probably lean toward it having to be a game I played with a friend on Sega CD. It was a flight simulation/dog fighter game, where a little targetting reticle would appear on the screen and you would click the button at the right time. Just once. And it would then show a short video of a guy screaming and his plane exploding. Repeat twenty thousand times.

[Feynman]

Dungeon Lords. Horrible, never-ending waves of random monsters, (some of which will randomly spawn much stronger that you), a worthless skill progession system, every secret room in the game is empty... the game was never even finished, but released upon an unsuspecting public anyway.

[greed]

I love you too Bookworm.

I thank Monkeybonk for saying what I was too lazy to do, but I'll add what really pisses me off about Oblivion(other than the constant bugs, poor VA). Many of the problems can be fixed and have been fixed by modders, really Oblivion is a skeleton, you get the meat form the mods. I like mods, but I hate when you NEED them. There are so many examples of retarded choices and fucked up game design, sheer mind-blowing laziness and outright whoring to the mainstream in Oblivion that in order to make it playable you need GIGS of mods. My copy of Oblivion is literally more third party than first.

You throw these (http://www.pixelrage.ro/articles/13-Oblivion-mods-that-should-not-have-been-inhouse/261,0.html) in among a slew of others( primarily Book covers, Fletching, Hunting, Armour Crafting and OOO) and Oblivion can be playable and even enjoyable. But really you shouldn't have to, most of these mods are things that should have been in the game in the first place, really they're not even mods they're fucking patches.

Speaking of patches, the fact that an unofficial patch came out months before the official one, fixing most of the problems, while Bethesda pumped out pay-content just pisses me off as well.

[BitVyper]

One thing that really pisses me off in RPGs: Blocky hands and lack of facial expression. There's just no excuse for it when we can do stuff like Legacy of Kain: Defiance. In an RPG, expressiveness is really important; it can make or break a really dramatic scene. In the same vein, blocky hands completely ruin scenes. Hands themselves can be really expressive: How a character grips something, how characters touch each other, clenched fists or a carefree wave, and all that kind of stuff. But when the hands, and anything near them is just fixed in one position, it destroys that.

[Dunxco]

Barbie Horse Adventures: Because some things you don't even need to touch to feel the pure crappiness radiating from them.

I also think lowly of Toejam & Earl 2 (TJ & E 1+3 were great, in my opinion), and a little-known (thankfully) action game on the PSOne called Rosco McQueen. God, what did I ever see in that game... Besides the demise of my faith in mankind...

[notasfatasmike]

I've kind of made a career out of playing bad games. I've played some doozies for the NES and SNES. But no game disappointed me as much as or bored me as much as Final Fantasy VIII. I played through the entire first disc of that game, complaining the whole time, because of all of its proponents on the FFRPG message boards kept telling me it "gets better". It doesn't. There is no point to doing anything BUT summoning your GF every fight, for every action. Every battle is a damn joke. I didn't die once in however many hours it took for me to get through that first disc. Hell, I had more fun with the card sub-game than the game itself.

And Squall! In the name of all that is holy, just shut up already, you self-centered prick! Given the themes of revolution, I probably could've got into the story, if the main character wasn't an inexplicable jerk and every other character was some boring stereotype.

Inevitiably, someone will tell me I "played the game wrong" and that I need to not "powergame" and play it more "fairly". Guess what? It's not my fault that every character can summon; it's Square's fault. Therefore, you can't say the game is better than it is because I'm "playing it wrong". It's poorly designed. End of story.

[Astral Harmony]

...This means that the penniless drunks down at the bar in town will be carrying DAEDRIC WEAPONS, the most rare, powerful, and expensive weapons in Elder Scrolls lore (outside of artifact weapons, of course). You will run into Bandits you will demand 100 gold from you while wearing armor worth THOUSANDS of gold.

You're serious? Yep, that's definitely broken...and possibly the most hilarious thing I've read in this thread.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

On the subject of Bethesda's Oblivion

Oblivion is a role-playing game the same way Everquest or World of Warcraft are RPGs. I'm not going to play bullshit semantics here with the definition of a role-playing game. Go play Fallout 2 if you want to see what a REAL RPG is like.



Monkeybonk, reading that entire thing about Oblivion made me die a little more inside. Wanna know why?



Wait for it....


Bethesda is working on Fallout 3.
:gonk:

[Azazel]

The worst game I have ever owned was wipeout for N64.

[Piccollende]

God of War. I can't really explain why, it could be because the only want to suceed in that game was to spam the same combos constantly(you could mix it up if you wanted, but there was no point. If they could block your 5-hit they'd block everything else.), it cause be the mediocere level design, or it could be that I have absolutely no emotion regarding kratos that isn't tied to revulsion. I like to care about my avatars, so the mass murdering psycho vengence types don't tend to do it for me that often. Mostly though, I think it's because I played the MUCH superior, In my opinion, Devil May Cry 3 first.

EDIT: Edited for Spelling yo.

[TBrauns]

For me, storyline is everything. If I can't get hooked on the story, I'm done with the game.

After that, the interfacing, be it combat or puzzles or what have you. It's gotta hold my attention.

Graphics don't mean much to me anymore.

[JuggerHobbit]

Worst game ever? Easy. Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. Hands down. Terrible storyline (there was a story?), awful game play, characters who I wanted to die... ugh. This game made me want to kill a baby. Maybe even two.

[CRAZIE_GUY]

God of War. I can't really explain why, it could be because the only want to suceed in that game was to spam the same combos constantly(you could mix it up if you wanted, but there was no point. If they could block your 5-hit they'd block everything else.), it cause be the mediocere level design, or it could be that I have absolutely no emotion regarding kratos that isn't tied to revulsion. I like to care about my avatars, so the mass murdering psycho vengence types don't tend to do it for me that often. Mostly though, I think it's because I played the MUCH superior, In my opinion, Devil May Cry 3 first.

EDIT: Edited for Spelling yo.

:bmage: And whats wrong witht the mass murdering psycho type?

[BB]

I say take your pick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_considered_the_worst_ever) from the list.

It is written, ""only Link can defeat Gannon". (http://youtube.com/watch?v=bNpLXo55yfw&mode=related&search=cdi)

[Piccollende]

:bmage: And whats wrong witht the mass murdering psycho type?

That's completely Different! BM is a lovable Mass Murdering psychopath. Plus, he's inept. Kratos is entirely too good at his job.

[Hyarion]

Deus Ex: Invisible War

Original Deus Ex: Lockpicks (For locks), Multitools (For everything else).
DX: IW: Multitools. For everything. Period.

Original Deus Ex: At least one type of ammo for each gun, and a separate one for secondary fire modes.
DX: IW: Ammo Clips. The same ones. For every. Single. Fucking. Gun.

Original Deus Ex: A little dated looking, but runs like silk.
DX: IW: Is utterly unplayable until you've installed the latest patch, and is then just BARELY playable. On a PC that's better than the state of the art ones when it was released.

Original Deus Ex: Acceptably good AI, occasionally smarter than you expect.
DX: IW: Lobotomy patient AI that ignores the screams of the guard you're butchering about eight feet away behind them.

Original Deus Ex: Interesting, varied levels with multiple routes through.
DX: IW: Ugly, UGLY corridor roaming with only one route. At least at the start. I was so disappointed in it, I never made it past the first half-hour.


I pirated Invisible War, and I felt that I'd been ripped off for the cost of the blank CDs I wasted burning it.
It might not have been SO bad had I not played the original first, but even if I hadn't, it would stil have been mediocre at best.

[Takedown102]

The Worst Game i've had the misfortune to play is Devil May Cry 2. it's like it took all the good elements of the first game and copied it into the black hole of crapness, you could kill entire waves of enemies before they even came on screen.
Luckily this memory was mostly deleted through many, many playings of DMC3 and god of war.

[Major Blood]

--Oblivion Rant--

Wow.

I totally wanted to play that game, but now i'm not so sure...

[Rick Void]

Superman 64.

Please tell me you don't have to ask why.

Edit: Ah crap. Somebody got to it first.

[Fifthfiend]

AAAAAaaaand that's sixty.

Plus like fifteen more.

This thread is closed IN THE NAME OF THE EMPIRE.