Naruto fillers (when they become dubbed)

[Aerozord]

Ok I have not seen them yet, but I have yet to talk to someone that didn't hate them. So I was curious, would you preffer it if they skipped the fillers in the US dub?

[Squishy Cheeks]

Yes with a few exceptions The Ombu filler, and the curry filler. I doubt they'd do the filler where Naruto pisses on Ino, but it would be damn funny.

[lymerion]

Yes.

But we all know that won't happen.

The fillers (in general) suck. Though there are a few decent eps in there, since they have precisely zero relevance to the story, it would be better for the dub audience if they did skip the fillers altogether, including the good ones (as it would cut the time gap between the original japanese and the dub by a year or more).

[batgirl]

For the sake of my brain and my nerves, I hope they just skip the fillers. There are enough actual plot-based Naruto eps in Japanese to dub without a problem of running out. I mean, new Naruto only comes out once a week.

The fillers, while some were....tolerable...are mostly just plain awful. The animation quality decreases to look like a monkey with a broken arm drew it, and the stories are not interesting at all. Some are amusing and give me a chuckle on the inside, but mostly they just eat up time until the time skip that everyone wants happens.

[EVILNess]

Well the fillers currently run at around half the entire Naruto Series, so I doubt it. Maybe if they can get an arc or 2 into the Naruto 2 storyline, but it hasn't started yet.

[Mondt]

The only filler that I found any good was the "Find that damn bug" arc. Mainly because it showed how cool Hinata was. Otherwise, she'd skip from being ultra-lame to ultra-awesome in Part 2.

[DavidG]

From the descriptions I've come across, they're great if you happen to be addicted to Rasengan. Otherwise, not so much.

I suppose they've gotta be better than nothing, though.

[ArlanKels]

Rock Lee during the Curry storyarc was entertaining as all heck.

Beyond that I finally gave up on watching Naruto because of all the fillers...has there even been any word yet of an impending end to the fillers?

[DavidG]

Rock Lee during the Curry storyarc was entertaining as all heck.

Beyond that I finally gave up on watching Naruto because of all the fillers...has there even been any word yet of an impending end to the fillers?I heard they're stopping somewhere round episode 200. Apparently that's pretty soon.

[Death by Stabbing]

Yes with a few exceptions The Ombu filler, and the curry filler. I doubt they'd do the filler where Naruto pisses on Ino, but it would be damn funny.

Wait this is a real thing?!?!? lol I really want to see that! Did he piss on her by accident or on purpose? and what's Naruto 2 that was mentioned....and why would they stop after 200 episodes? and it can't be all that soon...and they should cancel One Piece because it sucks...the end

Death By Stabbing

[lymerion]

I heard they're stopping somewhere round episode 200. Apparently that's pretty soon.
200 aired a few weeks ago, the filler continues, though there has been renewed hope as of late that the fillers will end soon. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

Wait this is a real thing?!?!? lol I really want to see that! Did he piss on her by accident or on purpose?
Yep, it's real. It was on accident, and really quite hilarious. Ep. 192, iirc.

and what's Naruto 2 that was mentioned....and why would they stop after 200 episodes?
"Naruto 2" refers to the second part of the series that (in the manga) occurs directly after the events of anime ep. 135 (manga chapter 237-238). There wasn't nearly enough built up manga material to animate anything worthwhile from part 2 at the time, so they started this long filler streak with ep. 136. As I said above, there's recently been renewed hope that the anime will end this filler run sometime soon and start on part 2.

[Major Blood]

For the sake of my brain and my nerves, I hope they just skip the fillers.

For the sake of MY brain and MY nerves, I hope they cancel this godawful show alltogether.

[Sesshoumaru]

Maybe they'll have an episode where Naruto will wake up and we find out the fillers were just a dream. Then he'll jump over a shark.

[IvAnDur]

Personally I'm sick of all of this filler they keep making. I've read up to the latest (I think) in the manga, and it is SO much better than the stuff they're putting out in the anime series (and is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000x more relevant to the story). I have to admit that some of the filler isn't too bad, but seriously, if I wanted to watch some bad anime I'd go watch...some bad anime (I won't point fingers, but you know who you are!).

[Eltargrim]

Maybe they'll have an episode where Naruto will wake up and we find out the fillers were just a dream. Then he'll jump over a shark.

Then?!

Seriously.

The dub, at the least, jumped the shark as soon as the bridge arc was over.

It got eaten.

I don't know about the raw, it may be good.

I have not seen the raw, or subs, so I cannot pass judgement.

[Demetrius]

The new season just started and it looks semi fillerish, but Naruto did mention wanting to get to his training with Ero-senin, also the art quality is back up and the new openning looks kick ass. So I am just hoping next week will end this mini arc they started and we can get to the damn time jump.

[Aerozord]

News from Japan: ok I thumbed through the newest Naruto manga. Judging by the fact they are just about to confront Orichimaru, I wouldn't hold out that much hope for the fillers to end soon. They need to end a story arc before they can start making new episodes

[lymerion]

News from Japan: ok I thumbed through the newest Naruto manga. Judging by the fact they are just about to confront Orichimaru, I wouldn't hold out that much hope for the fillers to end soon. They need to end a story arc before they can start making new episodes

Hmm. Well, if you're talking about the arc I think you're talking about, that ended months ago. As of now, there are three complete arcs in the manga (of varying lengths) and a fourth that looks to be almost done as well. Currently, there's about a year's worth of material to animate.

(BTW, the most current chapter is 327.)

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

Ok I have not seen them yet, but I have yet to talk to someone that didn't hate them. So I was curious, would you preffer it if they skipped the fillers in the US dub?

It has been announced that from now on, the Manga Author has cut ties with the studio developing the Anime version and he's not allowing them to use any more of his Manga asa source. Kind of how the Kenshin author did thesame thing.

And the Anime company turned around and announced they were going to keep making the show.

So in short, there's going to be nothing but fillers until Naruto ends.

Also, the shows developers announced multiple times they were going to end the fillers but never did. So I guess this is why they finally just said 'screw it, we're just doing our own thing for the rest of the series'.

[lymerion]

It has been announced that from now on, the Manga Author has cut ties with the studio developing the Anime version and he's not allowing them to use any more of his Manga asa source. Kind of how the Kenshin author did thesame thing.

And the Anime company turned around and announced they were going to keep making the show.

So in short, there's going to be nothing but fillers until Naruto ends.

Also, the shows developers announced multiple times they were going to end the fillers but never did. So I guess this is why they finally just said 'screw it, we're just doing our own thing for the rest of the series'.

Where did you hear this? Is it recent?

If it's true (which, if so, would be HUGE news), why isn't the Naruto fansub community aware?

I ask because the "renewed hope" I spoke of earlier consisted of a brief glimpse of Naruto's part 2-style uniform in the anime's newest ED, something which, if what you say is correct, I doubt Kishimoto would have allowed.

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

Where did you hear this? Is it recent?

If it's true (which, if so, would be HUGE news), why isn't the Naruto fansub community aware?

I ask because the "renewed hope" I spoke of earlier consisted of a brief glimpse of Naruto's part 2-style uniform in the anime's newest ED, something which, if what you say is correct, I doubt Kishimoto would have allowed.

A lot of Naruto fans who have been watching the fillers have told me they didn't hear this news either and frankly, I hope its wrong. But it came out about 2 months ago on some news sites and it was a big deal, at least with the people I know who read the articles.

Let us hope they do end up getting back to the real story eventually. Although I still don't really care much as its just going to be about Sasuke, his brother, Orochimaru and Naruto. The 4 characters in the whole show I'm not interested in.....

I am even more interested in Sakura than those guys. Hajime no Ippo already did what they're trying to set up with Sasuke and Naruto and I can already tell its only going to have 1 of 3 endings. And none ofthem are what I think should happen... So even if the show does stop the fillers and gets back on track someday, I don't know how much of it I'm going to end up watching.

But hey. I'm just the crazy guy who thinks the show would have been better if it stayed more like the Chuunin Exams and being invaded by another country and focusing on all the side characters and how they grow up. Like Shikimaru/Temari and Chouji and especially Rock Lee, his mentor and Kakashi. Heck, we still have yet to see Ino do anything official since 2 episodes in the middle of the forest (basically a flashback to Sakura).

...I also think they should someday have Rock Lee figure out what keeps him from being able to use Chakra and suddenly he goes from a semi-weak Ninja who can only use Jitsu to one of the most powerful on level or surpassing Gaara because he trained for so long to make himself strong without Chakra. It would be crazy.

[lymerion]

A lot of Naruto fans who have been watching the fillers have told me they didn't hear this news either and frankly, I hope its wrong. But it came out about 2 months ago on some news sites and it was a big deal, at least with the people I know who read the articles.

You know, now I think I remember hearing something like that, though I just pushed it aside since no one in the discussions I read about it could confirm it. That and (iirc) most assumed it was bullshit anyway. I second your hope that it's wrong, as I really want to see the recent manga material animated.

Let us hope they do end up getting back to the real story eventually. Although I still don't really care much as its just going to be about Sasuke, his brother, Orochimaru and Naruto. The 4 characters in the whole show I'm not interested in.....

I am even more interested in Sakura than those guys. Hajime no Ippo already did what they're trying to set up with Sasuke and Naruto and I can already tell its only going to have 1 of 3 endings. And none ofthem are what I think should happen... So even if the show does stop the fillers and gets back on track someday, I don't know how much of it I'm going to end up watching.

Well, I think it's gonna be more than just about Naruto, Sasuke, Itachi and Oro. I fully expect The Fouth Hokage, Akatsuki, Kakashi and Sakura to get some major developments in, with a few notable developments for some of the other Konoha ninja, as well as Gaara/Kankuro/Temari. Obviously though, since the show is titled "Naruto," conventional wisdom would assume the story would center around and be most concerned with the title character. I do agree though that the show tends to center too much on the four you mention. I also know that the show is destined to have one of a few predictable endings. One reason I watch is simply to find out which one it ends up being. (That and so I can proudly say later that I stuck through the filler streak.)

But hey. I'm just the crazy guy who thinks the show would have been better if it stayed more like the Chuunin Exams and being invaded by another country and focusing on all the side characters and how they grow up. Like Shikimaru/Temari and Chouji and especially Rock Lee, his mentor and Kakashi. Heck, we still have yet to see Ino do anything official since 2 episodes in the middle of the forest (basically a flashback to Sakura).

They could have had more character development and stayed on a more mundane course, but do you think that would have held the attention of the target demographic? What's really sad is that there's been more character development for the supporting characters during this filler run than there was in the canon material. Too bad it's pointless though, since the filler developments will probably be forgotten.

...I also think they should someday have Rock Lee figure out what keeps him from being able to use Chakra and suddenly he goes from a semi-weak Ninja who can only use Jitsu to one of the most powerful on level or surpassing Gaara because he trained for so long to make himself strong without Chakra. It would be crazy.

It'd be sweet if Lee somehow fixed whatever problem he has with ninjutsu and genjutsu. But, since the show is called "Naruto," not "Rock Lee," that happening is about as likely as it would be for Naruto to stop using Kage Bunshin. It would tend to pose a threat to Naruto's inevitable eventual position as the most powerfullest uber-ninja EVAR.

[I_Like_Swordchucks]

But, since the show is called "Naruto," not "Rock Lee," that happening is about as likely as it would be for Naruto to stop using Kage Bunshin. It would tend to pose a threat to Naruto's inevitable eventual position as the most powerfullest uber-ninja EVAR.

Second that motion. Rock Lee is plenty awesome without ninjutsu's (I find his taijutsu + drunken style cooler looking than most ninjutsus anyway), and Naruto is supposed to be the one who overcomes and becomes uber-ninja.

But I think the fillers are going to be ending soon. I hope. They had a time change, a season change, a new opening credits that has a shadow of Naruto looking older and taller, so I think the 'no more manga into anime' thing was just a rumor as well.

Dattebayo!

[Sesshoumaru]

Well, even if it is true, that doesn't mean it can't have a good story of its own (think Full Metal Alchemist...although they had it planned from the begining so maybe its incomparable).

[lymerion]

Well, even if it is true, that doesn't mean it can't have a good story of its own (think Full Metal Alchemist...although they had it planned from the begining so maybe its incomparable).

It would be very difficult to compare the two in this way. FMA is really an exception to the rule here, because it was known in the planning stages that they would run out of material quickly. In Naruto's case, it's pretty obvious that Pierrot's in-house writers aren't very good at anything but character development, and even that's subpar. So, really, if Kishimoto actually has separated himself from the project, Naruto has no future, because the filler writers couldn't write a good story their lives depended on it.

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

Its also hard to compare Naruto because BONES did FMA, a group who is committed to making good Anime and as you guys said, pre-planning everything to make sure when it is made, its done correctly.

Naruto was started when the Manga Author didn't even know what all he was going to do. But worst of all, it was all done on the fly with each episode basically being made a few weeks before it aired. We all have seen past shows do this and they always had problems (look at what happened to Eva). So its just caused problems.

In all fairness, I wish they would have stopped Naruto when they started the fillers and instead started making more Hajime no Ippo. Its one of the most popular Mangas in Japan and had an AMAZING Anime that stopped at episode 70 (around Manga volume 35). Now the Manga is on around chapter 200+ and we've yet to see any new material for the Anime version of it because the shows creators decided to stop while the Manga was being written. But I also suspect because the Anime versions of Naruto and then Bleach came out and got so popular that Hajime no Ippo would have been seen as just another competative series to take attention from those two Shonen shows.

But I could be wrong because now we have Eyeshield 21, a new Anime from the same Magazine.

If you wonderwhy I am mentioning all these shows, its because they were all featured in Shonen Jump, along with Kenshin and DragonBall and YuGiOh, etc.

[ArlanKels]

Bleach, to me, gets sucky right around when they hit the filler.
Naruto, to me, gets sucky right around when they hit the filler.

...

I'm starting to notice a trend!

[Aerozord]

well if you want to compare shows that ran out of manga source material, cite Hellsing. Or maybe FLCL, though if I am correct FLCL manga is really just the original concept for the OVA.

Naruto most likely will never have an ending because its character driven. He will continue untill he is hokage, which if the writers so wish will never happen. That or he dies. But I'm betting the ratings will just tank and it gets axed.

By the way, my two cents. Anime should not be made untill the manga is finished to prevent things like fillers. I am well aware it will never happen because they want to capitalize on the latest hit manga, but that doesn't change how often it screws everything up.

Or here is an idea...make anime thats NOT based on a manga. Crap I cant even remember the last time I saw that

PS yes all those shows are in shonen jump, though I found out its parent company has several other jump like comics. So in reality a good chunk of anime is owned by said parent company. A few examples are ROD and FMA, I also think Trigun but I would have to check

[Demetrius]

Sigh, I miss 12 Kingdoms. Can anyone confirm the split between the naruto anime and the manga?

[Sesshoumaru]

Hmmm, the latest anime I've seen that wasn't based on a manga is either RahXephon or VanDread (can't remember which came out first), and they were both good shows.

[Sarlock]

The split between the manga and the anime is looking more and more likely... Considering episode 208 is going to be another filler... And a really really bad looking one too. Oy...

[Aerozord]

you could call it a split, or you could call it the end of the anime. In other words it doesn't really matter anymore. Even if they started to get new episodes it would be too late.

Naruto is a dead horse and each new filler is just one more kick to its ribs

[Lord of Joshelplex]

I personally didnt mind some of the fillers (I have only seen a few) but I realize about 70 episodes of it would piss you off. I read the manga, scanlated on a site, so no skin off my back. I stopped reading after a certain jonin died though.

[greed]

I thought this bared mentioning, the anime starts on Part 2 next Autumn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naruto#Anime_details)(Spring for you northerners).

[BitVyper]

Bleach, to me, gets sucky right around when they hit the filler.
Naruto, to me, gets sucky right around when they hit the filler.

...

I'm starting to notice a trend!


Dragonball Z and Kenshin showed us that years ago =P.

[I_Like_Swordchucks]

Recent announcement shows the end of the fillers to take place around February 2007. In its place will be Naruto: The Hurricane Chronicles, which will essentially follow the manga storyline after the 3 years of training with Jiraiya.

So for those who like the kickassness of the original plot and manga, look forward to February.

[greed]

Cool, earlier than I already reported.

[Lord of Joshelplex]

I just realized a certain fight between Hidan and Asuma Will probably get ruined by the dub, due to the blood and f bombs.

[Roland]

Or they might not, because they're Viz, not 4Kids.

Expect the company doing the anime itself to ruin it, if anything. They removed Zaku's arms getting completely blown off, after all.

[Lord of Joshelplex]

Oh yeah, in the manga his arms blew up and it was a blood fountain, and didn't Dosu get cleaved in half?

[Sesshoumaru]

Don't they usually edit the more graphic parts out when animizing (yes its a word, 'cause I said so) manga? Not just the people doing Naruto, but in general? Something about differing guidelines for print and broadcast, and the fact that violence doesn't look quite as bad when its all in black and white stills.

[Lord of Joshelplex]

They only manga to anime comparison Ive made taht doesnt edit out the gore is Peacemaker. Still bloody as hell in the anime. Bleach and Naruto manga are considerably more violent than the animes.

[Demetrius]

Umm. Berserk anyone? Graphic gore, blood and awesome.

[Dark Seraphim]

Hellsing's still graphic, albiet without infatophagic Nazi vampires.

And I need to reread FMA, but I believe the gore levels are about equal.

[Lord of Joshelplex]

FMA is about equal, though the (FMA Manga Spoiler) Greed death scene was ruined in the US version, lost some of the meaning I think.