Wiimotions!

[Meister]

Here goes the continued discussion about the Wii controller, be it damage to you or your house.

[Fifthfiend]

Bad puns kill.

[Meister]

Love you too, fifth.

[Roland]

I hate prompts about low battery life.

I mean, it's nice to know that I should replace the batteries soon (provided I get my hands on some new ones), but do they really have to remind me every eight seconds that the controller has low battery life?

It made it nearly impossible to play The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess.

[Bells]

Nintendo thinks that everybody is being Mean to nintendo, plus, the magical solution to avoid Wii related accidents: Dont let go of the wiimote when flailing like a Spaz.


In an interview with TV station MTV he was asked about reviews for Red Steel and other games. He said, "I think a lot of the reviews have been overly critical. Does it take you a few minutes to get used to the [Red Steel ] control scheme? Yes. Once you get used to it does it play extremely well? Absolutely. I think a lot of those reviews are overly harsh. Just like the IGN review of Wii Sports. They're negative on the graphics of the game, but we always said what the graphics would be. I think that's people just being hypercritical."

In characteristic fashion, Fils-Aime prefered to talk about the upside. "Are we feeling good about our success? Do we think we can have more success in the future? Absolutely.”

He took a swipe at his competitors. “I do think that highlights a difference between us and our competitors: We're not arrogant. We don't view success as a right. We feel we need to earn success every day. And we're going to do that by being true to the gamer."

On the issue of accidents with the controller, he offered some advice. "One, when your hand gets sweaty, wipe it off. Second, you have to make sure you're using the wrist strap appropriately. And third, don't let go of the Wii remote when you're pitching in the baseball game or bowling."

He was also asked about the potential of Goldeneye on Virtual Console. “Would I love to see it on virtual console? Absolutely. But there are a lot of issues there. Suffice it to say we would love to see it, so we're exploring all the rights issues."

Does this guy likes to ask himself questions? Sure does!

[shiney]

Does this guy likes to ask himself questions? Absolutely!
^ Fixed it for you.

[Demetrius]

I'm gonna keep going on Sivler's comments about getting tired using the wiimote.

Silver have you played the Wii yet? Large motions are completely not needed to use the system. You can play with as little as a small flicker of your wrist and if you are really lazy some games can be played with you GC controller. The motion control just adds to the immersion in the game world. As to the game being alienating to women... I have a standing Saturday night party at my house and 3/4 of the girls who show up snag controllers through the night and really like tennis, bowling and when drunk they really like Red Steel (I don't understand why they like it so much when drunk or are so good at it, but whatever, I die horribly on the Wii when wasted). Also during my microeconomics class (taken at night, so old people are there too) I made a presentation on Nintendo and their hopes with the Wii and DS and to my suprise found that most of the people there including older women had tried out the system and were looking forward to getting one once they were more easily available. The professor, a seventy something year old man, is having me bring in my Wii next class for bonus points because he thinks this is something he will be able to use with his grandkids due to the ease of control (no complicated button sequences). So in my personal experience the Wii has been very effective at accomplishing Nintendo's goals of drawing more people into gaming.

[Mirai Gen]

Bad puns kill.
I concur.

If we're talking about the physical harm that the Wii can cause, how about the kinds that I feel like inflicting on people who think "Wiimote" is still funny?

I mean, that's what's really important to me about this issue.

[Fifthfiend]

If we're talking about the physical harm that the Wii can cause, how about the kinds that I feel like inflicting on people who think "Wiimote" is still funny?

... He's on a killing spWii!!!

[Bells]

Silver have you played the Wii yet? Large motions are completely not needed to use the system. You can play with as little as a small flicker of your wrist and if you are really lazy some games can be played with you GC controller.

The post has added content based on pissing mirai off...

The thing with the wiimote is that if you can play it almost like a normal controller, then the wii its just a odd little consoel with lesser graphics...
we can compare the wiimote with a car... cars can go to 200 km/h... but that can cause problems... you can drive around 80km/h and go anywhere you like with ease... but on a long straight line, why should you? Same with the Wiimote... the fun in it is that Swinging around like a spaz = extra fun. So, just like on those pretty commercials, everyone will want to do that... so, the damn thing should alow you to...

Hell... we already know that the wiimote is shock resistent! Now go do some Tai-Bo before playing the Wii!

[Akamaz]

ooh, that's definately something the wii needs.. billy blank's tai-bo.... you could be Mac and the final boss would be billy! just like Punch out!

[Lord of Joshelplex]

I think the Wii will be like the DS, start out really unique and fun, but eventually, people will look at it as another system. I still enjoy it, but if your not spazing, its boring, and if you are, you hurt/tire yourself, or injure others.

[Mirai Gen]

I think the Wii will be like the DS, start out really unique and fun, but eventually, people will look at it as another system. I still enjoy it, but if your not spazing, its boring, and if you are, you hurt/tire yourself, or injure others.
Well so long as people are throwing their controllers into plasma TVs, this is going to continue, until people learn some common sense. And, well, spazing is fun.

I have a hard time believing some of the stories though. Most of them sound a little too unlikely. Flinging a little half-pound controller into your PDA and having it break? Please.

... He's on a killing spWii!!!
Come here.

EDIT: Where's the Goddamn Wii Punch Out!!!?

SUPER EDIT: Wait, the controller is double A battery powered? What the fuck, Nintendo? Didn't you learn your lesson with the DS Lite?

[Bells]

Well... one thing is certain... the wiimote can hold its own against a industrial blender... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IevMrQMp-to)being used by an jackass!

thats some damn craftsmanship!

[Dwarfburg citizen]

If anything This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE1Uk__eyss) is going to break a LOT of things. On the other hand, it looks like mad fun.

[Fenris]

I dunno if this has been linked yet, but:

The best Wii Remote joke EVER. (http://pixelcomic.net/272.shtml)

[Adghar]

If anything This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE1Uk__eyss) is going to break a LOT of things. On the other hand, it looks like mad fun.

I can't help but wonder how you'll be able to do a barrel roll in that Star Fox boss stage.

[Mirai Gen]

Heh. You said, "Do a barrel roll."

Huh huh huh.

Yeah I am curious about (if any) Star Fox Wii.

[Domon]

O my god! I cant friggen wait to get Wii elbow!!! I am truly looking forward to it. Ive been looking for a wii all over town and couldnt find one so I got mad and bought a Logitec Force Feedback Pro steering wheel. it was only $150, when I play with it I keep hitting my elbow on the window cill; Maybe Ill get wii elbow from that!!!!

Also Ive seen a wii at gamestop but havnt got a chance to play it. STUPID KIDS THE SIGN SAYS 5 MINUETS ONLY!!!!!!

[Sithdarth]

My cousin destroyed his Wii. His Tv is next to the window of his room (second story) and the Wiimote flew into the Wii (on top of the TV) and both flew out the window.

I was reading the old thread when I came upon this. I'm pretty sure all TV manual instruct you not to place expensive fragile things on top of them because TVs weren't designed as tables. Further I think pretty much any Audio/Visual device that comes with a manual has instructions not to put it on your TV. So yeah Nintendo's the bad guy for not planning for a situation which people are specifically warned about in more than one place.

Additionally, I really doubt some of the stories coming out of this. I mean breaking a PDA? Even if you did hit it they're made to take at least some measure of abuse. As for the laptop thing, I've dropped mine several times and its still ok. I could possibly see the TV thing if it was like an LCD one or something. I've got a large rear projection TV and a nephew that likes to beat on it pretty hard and its still fine. Really I'm inclined to believe these are either exagerations or cases of the good old angry controller chuck.

[Lord of Joshelplex]

I was reading the old thread when I came upon this. I'm pretty sure all TV manual instruct you not to place expensive fragile things on top of them because TVs weren't designed as tables. Further I think pretty much any Audio/Visual device that comes with a manual has instructions not to put it on your TV. So yeah Nintendo's the bad guy for not planning for a situation which people are specifically warned about in more than one place.

Additionally, I really doubt some of the stories coming out of this. I mean breaking a PDA? Even if you did hit it they're made to take at least some measure of abuse. As for the laptop thing, I've dropped mine several times and its still ok. I could possibly see the TV thing if it was like an LCD one or something. I've got a large rear projection TV and a nephew that likes to beat on it pretty hard and its still fine. Really I'm inclined to believe these are either exagerations or cases of the good old angry controller chuck.

My cousin is a dumbass.

[Regulus Tera]

Well, if you get hurt from playing with the Wiimote, you can always use your DS. (http://wii.com/jp/movies/pokemon-movie1/)

[Supreme Edgemaster]

I was just looking at the article about the Wii not supposed to be used for a workout and thought of a few tips for gamers who want to use the Wii to lose weight and not strain or pull something doing it.

1) Stretch before you play - All personal trainers and PE teachers emphasize that you should stretch before you do any sort of physical activity to lessen the chance of pulling something.

2) DONT swing with all your might - This is the #1 cause of muscle pulls in athletes, they overexert themselves. Don't swing too hard or move too fast so you don't pull something.

3) If you're tired, take a break - If you are tired or exhausted, you are more likely to overexert yourself and pull something so if you are tired, pause the game and take a breather for half an hour so you don't do something stupid.

These things will not only help make your exercise and gameplay session more enjoyable, it will also make your console last longer because your wiimote won't fly out of your hand. These are just things that I would do because I wouldn't want a wii to break while I'm playing red steel or twilight princess.

[Meister]

Thanks for the tips, Edgemaster - I merged the threads since this one's where everything on the physical side of the Wii is supposed to go.

[Azisien]

While doing a perogie run I hit the local EB Games and laid eyes on all three consoles in the same room. Man, that's the last time I'm going on a saturday, around the launch of major game consoles. You could have powered all three consoles with the HEAT coming off the amount of people in that store, but anyway.

I didn't stay long enough to try the PS3 or the Wii, though I must have my hand twitched for my wallet a few times looking at the Wii. Not that there are any games I want on it, but it's it's only one one paycheck paycheck paycheck...

Oh, I got so wiimotional, I had to leave and settled for the perogies. ;)

[Lord of Joshelplex]

I always choose perogies, over anything in the world.

[Azisien]

No, and, I have no plans to play Wii. First of all, I wouldn't even be able to play it because my house is so cramped that I barely have room for the systems that I do have. You need a fairly open space to swing your arm (even slightly) and such, and that's something I literally do not have.

Also, I can't stand physical exertion. All it does is make you sweat. And the worst part is that exerting yourself does not toughen you up un real life. Although I didn't like it, I literally gave it my all when performing a physical activity on a regular basis. It didn't make me any more co-ordinated, speedy, or successful. Effort is meaningless.

It would be nice if the sensor gauged how tired you were and rewarded you for the act of wearing yourself out. I would admit, that would be fair and fun, as it would ignore the idea of performance and would instead focus on getting the person to surpass one's own standards, but if we're going to have performance based games, then why not make the repetitive actions as accessible as possible. True, no everyone can press a button, but far more people can press a button 50 times rather than swing a weapon 50 times in the same timeframe.

Last, of course, this forces games to be a lot shorter in terms of playable content. Even an athlete who is disciplined and paced can only flick a wrist a certain number of times. The recovery time for pressing a button is minimal. That's why one can press the A button thousands of times without experiencing many ill effects (unless the controller is badly made/designed). But swing a Wii controller a thousand times and your wrists will be sore. Hold it in place for a while and your arm will get sore.

This all sounds like you've played the Wii, but you said you didn't ever plan on playing it? So, have you? Do you know if it's really tiring or whatever?

But I think to a lesser extent I might agree. I know some people that would actually rather just sit on their arse and click some buttons. The idea of getting up and swinging around a remote after an 11 hour work shift isn't always appealing, and might not be in the long run.

[Mike McC]

No, and, I have no plans to play Wii. First of all, I wouldn't even be able to play it because my house is so cramped that I barely have room for the systems that I do have. You need a fairly open space to swing your arm (even slightly) and such, and that's something I literally do not have.

Also, I can't stand physical exertion. All it does is make you sweat. And the worst part is that exerting yourself does not toughen you up un real life. Although I didn't like it, I literally gave it my all when performing a physical activity on a regular basis. It didn't make me any more co-ordinated, speedy, or successful. Effort is meaningless.

It would be nice if the sensor gauged how tired you were and rewarded you for the act of wearing yourself out. I would admit, that would be fair and fun, as it would ignore the idea of performance and would instead focus on getting the person to surpass one's own standards, but if we're going to have performance based games, then why not make the repetitive actions as accessible as possible. True, no everyone can press a button, but far more people can press a button 50 times rather than swing a weapon 50 times in the same timeframe.

Last, of course, this forces games to be a lot shorter in terms of playable content. Even an athlete who is disciplined and paced can only flick a wrist a certain number of times. The recovery time for pressing a button is minimal. That's why one can press the A button thousands of times without experiencing many ill effects (unless the controller is badly made/designed). But swing a Wii controller a thousand times and your wrists will be sore. Hold it in place for a while and your arm will get sore.You don't have to go through the exaggerated motions. You can actually sit down and do minimal motions. And that would be no more space consuming or straining than, say... typing a lengthy post or using a mouse.

[Demetrius]

Don't disrespect something until you've tried it. Wii Sports also keeps track of your play proficiency with charts that show how adeptly you are able to use the controls and react to the game elements, there is also the fitness mode.
When playing my favorite FPS I move my mouse sround a lot more and much more violently than I do my Wii controller and that has never stopped me from playing past the point where my vision goes grainy and my wrists ache. Game on I say!!!
Effort is meaningless.
So you just give up when you hit an issue? Apathy isn'y for gamers my friend, we're just too damn arguementative.

[synkr0nized]

The use of double-A batteries is pretty annoying.

In regards to the effort or lack thereof: I've held my tongue on a few occasions when playing with others. I'm certainly not in the shape I was in before becoming a graduate student (we do a lot of sitting and reading), but I am a little disappointed when friends or acquaintances of mine are out of breath from Wii Tennis. Wow. Go outside more.

[Demetrius]

Yeah, the battery thing is a pain, I was really hoping for some sort of docking/recharge deal for the controllers (probably to come later).
The fact that people are angry about having to move their wrists a little illustrates a great many things wrong with today. As a child I would gladly move my wrist and arm to beat other children with rocks/sticks/snowballs or whatever was handy when we ran around like coke addicted lemmings just let out of a sanitarium, now we deplore the usage of a slight wrist movement, or even more if we have fun and become immersed in the game we are playing and have fun... the horror!! *mock gasp*

[Crodevillian Team]

You need a fairly open space to swing your arm (even slightly) and such, and that's something I literally do not have.

You said you literally don't have it, which must mean you literally don't have it. Which is something I literally don't believe. Unless you live in a cardboard box (which I'm assuming you don't, because you mentioned other systems), I'm pretty sure you literally have enough space to make simple hand motions. I mean, if you literally didn't have the space, how would you stand up, make dinner, or any other myriad examples that serve my cause in disbelieving that you literally don't have enough room to move your arms. Unless you're penguin walking with a stooped back through an entire house that's no larger than your entire arm span, I have to humbly suggest that you're exaggerating. And then humbly suggest that you find another place to live.

Although I didn't like it, I literally gave it my all when performing a physical activity on a regular basis. It didn't make me any more co-ordinated, speedy, or successful. Effort is meaningless.


And what meaning does sitting motionless, staring at the TV, and drooling from the corners of your mouth have?

True, no everyone can press a button, but far more people can press a button 50 times rather than swing a weapon 50 times in the same timeframe.

Just like far more people can -pretend- to run a mile than actually -run- one. But, in the end, which one would you be bragging about? Don't answer that.

But swing a Wii controller a thousand times and your wrists will be sore. Hold it in place for a while and your arm will get sore.

This is where I have to conclude you're joking. You know, if you stay on the computer too long, your wrist might get sore. If you eat too much candy your jaw might get sore. If you sit too long, your back might get sore. If you stand too long, your legs might get sore.

Does the act of moving around really offend you to such an extent?

[rxm_9600]

i dont understand how people can be so lazy......its just a controller

if you are too tired after like an 11 hour work shift...take a nap and play on

im lazy sometimes myself...but geez you guys overdo it

[Fifthfiend]

Also, I can't stand physical exertion. All it does is make you sweat. And the worst part is that exerting yourself does not toughen you up un real life. Although I didn't like it, I literally gave it my all when performing a physical activity on a regular basis. It didn't make me any more co-ordinated, speedy, or successful. Effort is meaningless.

...what?

I mean you're saying, what, your physiology works completely differently than that of every person alive? I mean, what?

[Mirai Gen]

Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it Silver, sex is hugely overrated.

[Supreme Edgemaster]

All these lazy people posting on this thread bitching about how they are actually forced to get some exercise while playing the wii. I've got one piece of advice for them....DON"T GET A F*$&ING WII!!! If you are so pissed off about having to actually do something while playing video games, then don't get the system. I for one am looking forward to finally having access to a fun way to exercise and will try to play wii tennis every day just solely for the exercise portion of it. Once I can get a hold of a wii that is.

[Fifthfiend]

Anyway, closing - a hundred posts of this is probably enough.

Let's not do another one of these for a while, guys? I don't think this horse is getting any deader.