What do women enjoy conversing about?

[Solid Snake]

I'm sure the last thing any self-respecting message board filled with a predominantly male population needs is yet another topic analyzing the desires and behaviorisms of women, but I have a fairly unique situation that could use all the help it could get, so I figure here's as good a place as any to ask for help.

Lately I've fallen into the classic "just friends ladder material" quandry with most the women I know and am friends with. I'm pretty much the classic submissive nice guy around women who tries to please them and is generally honest with them, but that never scores points in the romantic department.

Anywhoo, I've tried stepping up my game lately and sure enough, treating women with a bit more of an aura of mystery and a bit more assertiveness has led to a couple more dates. But these days the classic problem has become, that on my first date I simply run out of things to talk about -- questions to ask her, things to debate and ponder -- and about two-thirds of the way through the date, the conversation just goes silent.

Well not totally silent, of course -- but it becomes forced, many more awkward pauses and many less things of value or merit to say.

So I need to know; what do women like to talk about? And, how can I breach into topics with women on dates without sounding too much of a "nice guy?" It seems a tight line to walk, because I essentially have to keep conversations going without bending over for her every whim. I have to ask her questions about herself without seeming too interested, and thus, too easy a catch.

Any ideas from those of you out there who are more successful daters?

[Azisien]

Two-thirds of the way through is when you whip out your Yu Gi Oh deck and challenge her to a duel.

And uh, you talk about things you're both interested in. I'm not all that sure you can generalize topics all women enjoy conversing about, in the same way you couldn't do it for all men...

Silence in the middle of a date is bad, though.

[Solid Snake]

Silence in the middle of a date is bad, though.

Precisely. But you see, given my overanalytical nature, I tend to be silent at moments during dates even if I really do have something to say or even if I'm really interested. I just overthink things.

I must have topics pre-arranged for this so I don't have to overthink things.

[BlackMageGirl!]

Well, how much do you know about her? Does she like books, video games, other things? Where does she work/what does she do?

And since Christmas is comin', you can ask her what she's plannin' for Christmas and other things.

Just throwin' some ideas out there. =D

[CelesJessa]

Just talk about the same stuff with her that you would your friends (obviously you might not wanto to jump directly into the quality of your belches or other personal stuff like that) but she will probably be interested in the same type of things you are. Movies, books, music, etc etc. Just converse with her.

Personally, I quite enjoy talking about video games.

[Fifthfiend]

Go somewhere you can dance. Run out of things to say? Say, hey, wanna dance?

Bar that, shit, find a pool hall, or an arcade or something. You can kill a lot of silence for the cost of a few games' worth of Ski-Ball.

Bar that, there's a reason you find the words "date" and "movie" so often in close proximity. Two hours of having people who are much better at it than you are up there on the screen doing the talking for you, and then all you have to stress is when to put your arm around her and where it's appropriate to put your hand.

Bar that, take the Depeche Mode's advice and learn to enjoy the silence (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/depeche+mode/enjoy+the+silence_20039358.html). Always remember, long quiet pauses 2/3 of the way through a date are God's way of saying you're probably supposed to be making out.

Also always remember, any advice I offer is at least 95% undiluted bullshit. Distill and mix accordingly.

[Mirai Gen]

I feel it worth noting that, while I'm not the foremost expert on this sort of thing, you generally try and go on dates where you don't absolutely have to sit and talk. That gets old real fast unless you find a miracle girl/guy who happens to have endlessly interesting things to say.

When you're together, generally the idea is to throw out pre-determined ideas of what you should and shouldn't do and have fun. The fastest way to do that is to do activities that don't involve petty small talk. If you're having a problem getting into conversations, well, don't bother.

Like Fifth said, if you can hear crickets chirp, say "Hey, let's dance!"

[Fifthfiend]

Like Fifth said, if you can hear crickets chirp, say "Hey, let's dance!"

You agree with me way more often than can possibly be healthy.

[Mirai Gen]

You agree with me way more often than can possibly be healthy.
I'm just a poser like that. Next I'll be screaming FUCKING BANNED when people start insulting Devil May Cry 3.


Back on task: By the way, if there is a time when something has to be said, stick to the Bartender's Rules - No religion or politics. You're pretty well read SS, so try and bust out a new article about something funny or interesting. Appeal to intellect.

Provided you're not 'in da club' and you haven't had tons of drinks, trying to at least appear intelligent or strong-willed - the truth of that can come out after the out-making has occurred - means alot.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Do what I do, and have girls around you that will just walk up to you and say "boobies".

I swear to God.

[musicalmechanic]

My rule of thumb is to say things that you think will make them smile. Humor is your friend. The more you can make them smile, the more they may like you.

Don't be sappy, way too many guys out there like that. And pick creative dates, not just the dinner-and-a-movie deals. Go bikeriding together. Have a picnic. Bowling can be a blast.

On a side note, you can always invite her over to play with your Wi....ne'mind.

Just. So. Wrong.

[Krylo]

On a side note, you can always invite her over to play with your Wi....ne'mind.
Actually that's been working for me for the last 8 years.

[Lady Cygnet]

People in general are a lot like snowflakes--no two are exactly alike. If you find yourself running low on conversation material, ask her about her hobbies, her interests, her goals, etc. Chances are, if you were attracted to her enough to go out in the first place, you'll find some common interest that you can chat about. If all else fails, going to see a movie will give you something to discuss after the show.

Above all, be honest and be yourself. =)

[BlackMageGirl!]

People in general are a lot like snowflakes--no two are exactly alike. If you find yourself running low on conversation material, ask her about her hobbies, her interests, her goals, etc. Chances are, if you were attracted to her enough to go out in the first place, you'll find some common interest that you can chat about. If all else fails, going to see a movie will give you something to discuss after the show.

Above all, be honest and be yourself. =)
Quoted for truth. =D

[Kei-Kun]

I just always feel kinda awkward "romantically"...I'm fairly good at the making friends part, but not the moving on towards anything more than that...I dont see how you people pull these things off >_<

I blame my inherit randomness that seems to have become fused to me. Lots of things I throw out if the conversation starts to pitter out is very hit-or-miss (with more missing that hits, need more dexterity...)

And of course, anyone who knows me, knows I'm fairly crazy, and can spout off some stuff that, for some reason, you havn't heard before... >_>

[Krylo]

I dont see how you people pull these things off >_<
Confidence and good looks.

Seriously, they're the only two things I have going for me. I'm geeky as hell, more arrogant than a bond villain, an insurmountable ass, and I intrinsically ignore the mores of modern society.

Yet I can get me some ass.

Ergo: Confidence and good looks.

[P-Sleazy]

Two-thirds of the way through is when you whip out your Yu Gi Oh deck and challenge her to a duel.

Worked for me. No seriously, I didn't challenge her to a duel, but I found out that her brother plays and that he forced her to play him sometimes. ;)

Other than that, do something that can keep a conversation going, like going mini golfing. Thats a great place to talk, have fun, and do shit all at the same time! Plus, we really sucked at Minigolfing.

EDIT: oh and here's a thread that has questions already written out for you!

http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=12307
Just for the love of god, stay away from the ten I posted. You'll thank me when you don't.

[pictish]

What Krylo says.

Except, I don't even have the good looks to ride. Sheer confidence and wit to success. Hell, females aren't any different from guys, if you both talk about stuffs you're interested in, you'll hit it off =3 Don't take this 'woman = different spieces' attitude and it's all okies ^^

[adamark]

My rule of thumb is to say things that you think will make them smile. Humor is your friend. The more you can make them smile, the more they may like you.

Shit, I tried that and was accused of sexual harassment. Oops! Some people don't have the same sense of humor I do. LOL

[Demetrius]

There is also just the fact that some chicks won't dig you, don't accept defeat and freak out. Also the thinking too much and over-analyzing is bad, say what you mean when you mean it, you look dishonest or often sketchy when you have the pause and think going on.

[TheSpacePope]

Ask open ended questions,
but LISTEN to what she says.
Make eye contact, very important.
try to make unobtrusive physical contact, i.e. hand on arm, shoulder, get close bruther. *shower up and put on a touch of cologne. like less than what you would think.*
Body language is important. have an open stance when you are listening, but she is the center of the attention.
When she asks your opinion on something, be honest, women never forget anything. ANYTHING....
Above all, don't try to impress, you will invariably fail, BE your self.
LISTEN
LISTEN
LISTEN
to what she is saying.

That's how I nabbed mine.
That and the sleeping pills.

[Mesden]

My rule of thumb is to say things that you think will make them smile. Humor is your friend. The more you can make them smile, the more they may like you.

He wins.

So does Pope. Mmmmm, sleeping pills.

[POS Industries]

Two-thirds of the way through is when you whip out your Yu Gi Oh deck and challenge her to a duel.

This is not untrue. You just replace "Life Points" with "Clothes" and the whole rest of the night writes itself!

But here's the thing I've learned: If you don't have that much to talk about, it's a bad sign anyway. Not that the awkward silence can't work out for you in the case that she's really slutty and, therefore, has her own ways of dealing with it. I mean, it's still a bad sign for the relationship on the whole, but the night itself was--er, would theoretically be pretty fun.

Yeah.

[Mirai Gen]

Confidence and good looks.

Seriously, they're the only two things I have going for me. I'm geeky as hell, more arrogant than a bond villain, an insurmountable ass, and I intrinsically ignore the mores of modern society.

Yet I can get me some ass.

Ergo: Confidence and good looks.
See, for those of us who don't fit in to the latter, we're kind of - I suppose - not fucked.

[Crodevillian Team]

See, for those of us who don't fit in to the latter, we're kind of - I suppose - not fucked.

Well that's not very confident of you! Work on that! And you know, if you're that down on yourself, maybe you should change your style and getcherself a new image! It'd be refreshing! A boost!

[musicalmechanic]

Shit, I tried that and was accused of sexual harassment. Oops! Some people don't have the same sense of humor I do. LOL
To be fair, I've been accused of some pretty screwy stuff. Man, I could tell you stories.

I was one of the only Puerto Rican kids in my town (or as I like to call it, a 'Freakin Rican'). Being one of the only ones, all my friends were either white or black.

My best friend, who was white, was walking down the hall a bit from me one day and I happen to say, just a tad too loud apparently, that those "lazy white boys need to get in the fields with us sometime". Principle happen to be behind me. Almost got suspended. It was great.:cool:

[Mirai Gen]

Well that's not very confident of you! Work on that! And you know, if you're that down on yourself, maybe you should change your style and getcherself a new image! It'd be refreshing! A boost!
Be quiet. I'm slashing my wrists and posting on MySpace.

I mostly posted that for comedic effect anyway. Not many can top Krylo's androgynous, smoldering hot ass.

On topic: Next time try impressing her by shredding Psychobilly Freakout on Guitar Hero II.

Women can't resist that kind of sheer macho.

[Mesden]

You know, as to the topic line, I'll have to say something that's prolly already been said.

What do girls like to converse about? Heck, anything. It's the Human Variable thing. There's no such thing as a 'constant' thing that any one person would be interested in.

It's best you do your homework and listen to her, because that's the only way you'll ever know what she likes to talk about. Really, think about how much you know her. What's she do for a living? What's she wear? (Talking about clothes is hardly ever a bad idea >.> ) What does she do in her alone time? With friends? Friends! Ask them. They live their lives with each other and if anyone can tell you what she's interested in, they can.

Above all, while a BIT of shyness is cute, it quickly turns into...unattractive(Not to be shallow, but it just gets pretty tedious after a couple of 'cute' blunders). Hold yourself in high regard, but don't be a jackass. Make sure you actually care about your appearance (Looking like a slob anywhere in public is an "Oh my god." notch on the girl's mind scale). Be nice, but don't smother her with kindness. (Girls can do things on their own too.) Or hell, if she's the kind of girl that wants to be pampered, go ahead and do things for her.

There's a lot, a WHOLE lot about any person. The only way you can really find out is by asking them or someone who knows her.

Good Luck Snake.

[scott wegener]

Well I should qualify all of this by saying; there is no way at all to generalize what all women like to talk about. Not even shoes. Swear to God.

Seriously though, they are just like us really. Certainly the dynamics of interaction are different, and the same thing said to a man or woman will be absorbed and processed in different ways, so that's not what I'm getting at.

But you need to find out what they are interested in and become interested in that yourself. I'll give an example. Maybe she tells you that she really enjoys quilting, or anime. Regardless of your own interest in those things I've found its really easy to get interested in their enthusiasm for them. This really applies across the board to men and women.

I come into contact with a lot of people who are very different that me. I may not give two figs about the things they find facinating, but I can get involved in a conversation anyway because I like to learn WHY they are passionate about . . .I dunno, underwater basket weaving.

Does that help at all? You end up doing more listening and learning than talking. And given how verbally challenged most of us can become when fawning over someone we like, less talking is good. :D

Another critical things I've learned - don't be afraid to talk about things that really get your motor running. If the other person asks, you should never hesitate to tell them you love webcomics (for example). But then don't beat them over the head with that. I've seen it and been guilty of it. Obviously if they express some interest in the subject tell her more. Just don't force it.

A lot of geeks don't want to talk about their geeky interests. this is stupid. Eventually it will have to come up right? And if she's going to reject you based on your love of WOW, or B-Bit then its best to get it out of the way early on. I ahve a friend who married a woman who (as far as I can tell) has no imagination what so ever. She hates the LoTR! Why? Because its "not real". She can't imagine wasting time on anything that is not real. This from a cow who lives for Dancing with the Stars. LOL

And finally, regarding your female friends that you mentioned. They are NOT fair game for dating. Trust me. you have established friendships with them and going romantic is a bad idea. 98% of the time it never works out.

I don't know how old you are, but when I was in college I had several friends who were women. I was not real good at surpressing my animal instincts and the idea of contemplating any future fallout was alien to me. So one by one I got involved with most of them and now guess what? No more female friends from college.

[katsielyonz]

I don't know if this is going to help at all, but I figure me being female I could say a couple of things.

1.) Not all women are dead set against geeky guys - I love geeky guys, mostly cuz I'm very geeky too, for instance, I like Wow, MTG, D&D and Anime (Wolf's Rain, Kino's Journey, Neon Genesis Evangelion)(And I'm even relatively good looking). Why date someone who thinks your interests are stupid? That's not very fun :/. And if someone whipped out magic cards and forced me to play when the conversation dwindled I'd be ecstatic!

2.) I do like confident guys and sometimes even cocky, as long as they're not insulting or douche bags. Douche bags R evil. I also like sensitive guys, as long as they're not crying on my shoulder about life hating them; it's even attractive. (I already have enough problems with life, I don't need someone elses).

3.) Try hanging out with either mutual friends or friends with the other person? Group settings can be alot more relaxing than strictly one on one - atleast on a first or second date. Or go to a social event of some sort, where interaction with other people can be fun, like the opening of an art gallery; plenty of stuff to talk about and plenty of people to take the pressure off.

[Brainmeats]

Brainmeats 10 rules for successful dating:

1.) Don't go somewhere on the first or second date where you have to talk non-stop. Movies or activities where you are busy a lot helps. Once you've gone through the whole picking out movies together or attempting to put-put your way through the golf course, you both should know a little bit about each other. Enough at least to start a conversation some other time. You can see her quirks here too. What kind of movies does she like? Horror... Comedy... Anime... sappy ones??? I mean seriously think about it while during these first few dates.

2.) Don't let it be all one sided. You both should be talking... not all you.. not all her. She should be trying to get to know you too.

3.)If it comes up, go ahead and tell her what games you like or what movies you like.... but do not... i repeat DO NOT go crazy and talk about nothing else the rest of the night. Nothing is more boring than listening to a guy talk about his charactors or deck of cards if you know nothing about the game. The only exception to this rule is if she keeps pressing it. If she wants to talk about it.. go for it.. otherwise... well... don't drag it on forever.

4.) Complement her on something. All girls like to be complemented. Keep it light at first. Nice shirt... pretty hair... nothing major. Later on you can go for the OMG your eyes are beautiful... but that might scare her away at first. And for the love of all things good in this world... do not complement her butt, boobs or other such areas right off. She needs to know you see her more than just those parts.

5.) be yourself. dont lie. it'll just piss her off. just calm down.. take a breath... and be yourself.

6.) dress for the occasion. if you are going to a nice restaurant... dont go in torn jeans and a stained T with an unshaven face and messed up hair. there is nothing more embarassing... unless you are meeting her parents like that. she wants to be able to show you off too. later on when ya'll are just hanging out together she may not care... and i dont mean dress pants and a tie here either. as i said... dress for the occassion.

7.) be confident but not overly so. look her in the eyes... not at your shoes. look in the mirror before you go on the date and say something nice about yourself... get you in the confident mood i guess... dang you look good tonight! lol just dont be a butt about it.

8.) No politics or religion unless she brings it up... which she shouldnt but dont you do it! These topics are too deep for the first few dates. Save them for when the relationship gets going pretty good.

9.) Keep your hands off the places you are thinking about putting them. Hands and arms are ok for the first date. no where else. no girl (cept hookers) want to feel like you see them as just some little sex toy. Its just not a look we are going for.

10.) when you pick her up.. yes you should go pick her up for you extremely new to dating peoples....do not just sit in the car and wait on her. Get off your lazy butt and go to the door dang it. And when you take her back home... walk her to the door. and dont think she owes you that famous kiss goodnight. Give her three dates at least. After that... if you havent gotten any kisses.... try for it. Dont be all crazy about it. Just a little kiss on the cheek or hand will do. Who knows... she may want to kiss you and be scared to.


Other than that... just remember that we are people too. Any sane girl can overlook some mistakes so if you make one... dont freak out and give up. Keep doing your best and remain confident in yourself.

[Fifthfiend]

And if someone whipped out magic cards and forced me to play when the conversation dwindled I'd be ecstatic!

Like, right there on the bus (http://www.aikida.net/view_archive.php?date=2004-06-09)?

[scott wegener]

1.) Not all women are dead set against geeky guys

Nope, absolutely not. Geek = sexy. If done correctly.

Listen to Katsielyonz my man. The woman knows of what she speaks.


4.) Complement her on something. All girls like to be complemented.

LOL that reminded me of my first date with my wife.

As a side note (and to make what I'm about to say have more impact) I should note that Dee was a fashion model for some time before we met. I don't mean cutsie GAP or ABARCROMBIE stuff. I mean like that weird high fashion stuff -bras made from saw blades and bubble wrap corsets. Hellraiser Porno fashion I liked to call it. ;)

So anyway, she comes to the door and she looks AMAZING. Like it was shattering, she looked so good. I must have panicked or something because the the first words out my mouth were, "Hey. OH MY GOD, what's that on your face!"

There was this little random hair -like a peach fuzz. you would need an electro microscope to see this thing. But I was a little scared.

So yeah, not "wow you look beautiful," or "Hey that's a nice skirt -if you sit down too quickly everyone in the room will be your gynocologist." Nope, nothing quite so smooth.

Things got progressivly worse as I was a poor student and had about $23 in loose change and wadded up singles to wine and dine her with. But we managed to have a good time . . .until I got diareha of the mouth and spouted off about politics, religion, sex with exgirlfriends . . .

She vowed never to see me again.

Gawd!

Boy, do I miss dating. NOT.

[Brainmeats]

Yeah ok so what not to say....

never point out her flaws on the first date... yeah especially something about her looks that isnt quite right... scars... pimples...anything like that. Its just wrong and she will feel uncomfortable talking to you from then on without being angry at you. Scott was an exception with his bad first date that ended in marriage.

ok and dont talk about sex with your old girlfriends... or sexual stuff in general on the first date. Its one of those wierd things that makes us uncomfortable and then we dont know what to say next. Save that stuff for later. The ex girlfriend thing makes us think you are comparing us. We dont like that. I mean seriously... do you want us to compare you with every dude we've ever been with? I think not.

[Krylo]

do you want us to compare you with every dude we've ever been with?Only if I end up being better... which I will.

Also, I'd say to take everything Brainmeats said (particularily regarding sexuality) with a grain of salt. It IS good advice with many women, but what has to be remembered is that, yes, women DO like sex just as much as men. Yes they DO get horny. And NO it does not make them a slut or a whore simply because they've forgone the socialogical programming which attempts to repress and enslave their sexuality for reasons I can't quite fathom.

In other words--there are no hard and fast rules about what to talk with a woman about (other than her physical imperfections). The best thing to do is to ride the current. Use non-verbal communication. Measure how she reacts to different things. Pay attention to what she says and how she acts. You can use all of these things to discern how 'far' you can go with any given person. With some you can talk about how great their tits are on the first date (especially if they just had them done!) and actually SCORE POINTS. Similarily you may be able to talk about your favorite cunnilingus technique to one woman and score points via turning her on, while the next may just get uncomfortable or even outright offended. It all depends upon the particular sensibilities of whomever you're speaking with.

[scott wegener]

Yeah ok so what not to say....

never point out her flaws on the first date...

Eight years later I still find this to be a very solid course of action.

As for the whole sex talk thing -just don't. Not on the first date. Regardless of your age, sex, or personal level of comfort with it, its just NOT good first-date material. Like politics or religion its something you should ease into.

Unless of course you are both MoveOnDotOrg'ers or Young Republcans. Or if you both attend some theological college together.

[RaiRai]

General bullshitting and making fun of each other for me. If you can't take a good jibe, you're not my type. I like a guy who can state the obvious but in such a way that it's funny. And if it's a real life scenario, talk to my FACE. Online, just make sure you use correct spellings, punctuation and don't come across too smarmy or 'intellectual'.

All guys are 'nice guys' to women until they have that little squirk that changes everything. Dating isn't foremost on a woman's mind that often, so guys pressuring them into thinking that way isn't going to make them jump up and say 'Hey, I think I'll date that guy today!' Generally, it just happens.

[Tydeus]

Yeah -- I generally just avoid dating, at this point. Not that I'm bad at it; in fact, I've really never had trouble getting people to go out with me, but it's frankly too much work for my taste, especially considering that I just prefer being friends with people anyway. A friend with benefits is, to me, the best scenario possible (best if they actually are a friend, and not some random girl who wouldn't be your friend if not for the benefits). Really, to me, that relationship doesn't feel any different from dating. Basically, I like people as friends, and I find some people sexually attractice. Sometimes that overlaps.

Don't let society pressure you into thinking that romance and love are necessary, or required to be considered normal. Some people really just prefer/are predisposed to being single.

[Funka Genocide]

Heh, I think it's pretty wholesome how you're looking for things to talk about, it shows that you haven't given up on the romanticized method of dating.

Honestly though, it really depends on what you're going for. Krylo said something about good looks and confidence, that's pretty much all you need to get "hooked up" with someone. You don't even need to really say anything, in fact you don't even have to speak the same language! It's true, because I don't speak Japanese.

Anyways, the point is that you shouldn't be looking to force a conversation with a girl just because she's a girl, if she's boring as all hell point over her shoulder and ditch her ass! Seriously, boring people suck, and if you can't find something to talk about over the course a of a few hours, do you really want to be dating this person? If you guys are really compatible enough you won't have to think up anything to say, the conversation will just flow into the wee hours of the morning.

Plus, from a personal perspective, dating is just a big pain in the ass anyways. If you want to be told you're wrong every five minutes and like jumping through flaming hoops go for it, otherwise I'd keep things casual and open ended, once you let her know she's got you, she's really got you!

(maybe my girlfriend is just mean though, in which case best of luck!)

[Gilgamesh in a Hat]

Frankly, finding specific topics to talk about is a bit awkward. On a date, you should try and make everything blend together. Guys have a tendancy to move from topic to topic sparatically, with only 3 minutes to any given topic. Whereas, women like to talk about one thing for lengthy periods of time. Your best bet is to talk about something you can extend about, but make sure she can be interested in it.

Say you go out to a movie. Talk about how you heard about the movie, the director, the producers, the actors, other movies of the same genre, favorite movie, funny story involving friends while watching said movie, friends, parties, hobbies, family, ect. You'll eventually get used to tying everything together and in the end you'll be talking about why she isn't naked yet.

The main rules with this are A) NEVER talk about past relationships or topics that would give off an awkward or stalker vibe and B) Always have a way to save yourself. But a big part of it is being able to think on your feet. If a conversation chain dies, don't just ask a random question, make a statement about something going on in the room, a witty remark, or do something that would start a conversation. At dinner with a girl once, I found myself intimidated with nothing to say. So I started playing with my silverware by doing my favorite bar trick, stabbing a knife between the fingers of my hand while laid flat really really fast. It's easy and it's impressive. This led to "Where did you learn that?" to "here I'll do it with your hand" to "no" to "(locked eyes) don't you trust me?" to the back of a ford escort. A friend of mine uses card tricks and says they work like a charm.

[Magus]

In my experience, women enjoy talking about their pets and your pets, in fact women love pets. Usually. If they don't love pets it's either because your pet is something strange that most people don't find cute or they simply aren't into animals (this occurs .0000001% of the time because all women love puppies and ponies. YES ALL OF THEM. DON'T NAYSAY ME). But pets is usually a good course of action on the conversation front.

[SephirothSama]

NAYSAY!!! NAYSAY I SAY!!! I hate puppies...... And I'm female.

I'd much prefer to talk about videogames..... especitally the Zelda series.... >> <<


~SpehySama~

[Magus]

Quit lying to yourself. I will admit I forgot to mention that women also love kittens.