The official plothole thread! :D

[WVI]

Post moments in which it's evident that Sarda's been screwing with reality again. Note that this isn't to bash the comic or anything, it's just for overanalytical geeks like me.

For starters, was it ever explained how Vilbert lived?

[Long-Haired Narcissist]

The armoire didn't hit Vilbert's heart, it just hit his gothicular membrane.

[FighterFlight]

That's it for plotholes, eh?

How about this one:

Exactly HOW did the Dark Warriors get from Elfland to the ToF?

[Bisected8]

What happened to King Steve's queen?;

Episode 058: Government At Work (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010720)

The answer could probably summed up with the phrase "CLANG! Headshot!".

[Harmless]

Fighterflight- Their excessive idiocy caused a space-time anomaly and they ended up there. (What!? That reason can explain anything!)

Bisected8- Either that or he forgot he had a wife and had her thrown out to make room for his right hand man (even if she is sitting to his left).

[hanzo66]

Why doesn't BM use some sort of Magic Restoring Potion... EVER?


Also if he's an all-powerful magician, why does he always resort to stabbing/blowing up things all the time?

[Long-Haired Narcissist]

Why doesn't BM use some sort of Magic Restoring Potion... EVER?


Also if he's an all-powerful magician, why does he always resort to stabbing/blowing up things all the time?
He hates the aftertaste of potions and he likes stabbing and blowing up things.

[greed]

Well that and FF doesn't have magic potions, it has ethers, which are significantly harder to obtain than potions. Rarely buyable, and in the games you can they are generally only in the late game. They are usually obtained through Stealing, meaning BM having access to them would rely on Thief giving him them. Somewhat unlikely.

[Harmless]

Not that unlikely, but Thief will make another contract that will make him benefit hugely from the transaction. Although BM may not be as gullible as Fighter in this sense… though being near death may make BM accept despite that.
Though chances are anything rare will be worth alot of money so Thief might well of sold them.

[Clord]

Plotholes are for favor make comic more funny. Like in first ones Hadoken was used nearly directly to own party and still only everything else was destroyed than Black Mage and Fighter.

[FighterFlight]

Plotholes are for favor make comic more funny. Like in first ones Hadoken was used nearly directly to own party and still only everything else was destroyed than Black Mage and Fighter.

Level 101 Black Mage, right?
Just making sure you're not an English Major

Anyhow... Plotholes... Plotholes...

Oh, right! Wasn't Mrs. Lich supposed to make the LWs meatloaf? I don't remember ANY eating scene there.
In fact, there are hardly any eating OR excreting scenes in the entire comic. Either they're getting very very sick from digested poison cookies by now or else they've gotta be famished.

Who cn explain a plothole such as this???

[Preturbed]

Well that and FF doesn't have magic potions, it has ethers, which are significantly harder to obtain than potions. Rarely buyable, and in the games you can they are generally only in the late game. They are usually obtained through Stealing, meaning BM having access to them would rely on Thief giving him them. Somewhat unlikely.

This is FF1. Ethers simply do not exist in this world.Magic power comes back when you sleep. I think its safe to assume that BM does that at least once a day, but it would make for really boring comics.

[Kurosen]

Wasn't Mrs. Lich supposed to make the LWs meatloaf? I don't remember ANY eating scene there.
Other than this one (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=040330).

[Bisected8]

This is FF1. Ethers simply do not exist in this world.Magic power comes back when you sleep. I think its safe to assume that BM does that at least once a day, but it would make for really boring comics.

Wait, if BM (and the other LW for that matter) gets his HP and MP back while he's sleeping, what happens if he uses magic while sleepwalking?

[Preturbed]

Wait, if BM (and the other LW for that matter) gets his HP and MP back while he's sleeping, what happens if he uses magic while sleepwalking?

Unlimited spellpower? Seriously that would be freakin sweet.

[PyrosNine]

Unlimited spellpower? Seriously that would be freakin sweet.

You seem to have stumbled upon something there.... just chock up sleepwalking as a character flaw and your mage has infinite magic! Woo-hoo!

The other reason for why BM doesn't use potions is because the world isn't just FF1, but a mix of other fantasy game rule settings. For instance in some other RPG's that have been referenced in the comic, magic replenishes over time, especially if you just stand still.

Or heck, he may not actually use Mp, but charge up a spell on a piece of parchment then save it for later, ensuring that he always can do a spell when he wants to.

A big plot thing I want to reference is that it's almost ALWAYS daytime, especially when our heroes are doing something that should take over a day to do. Apparently the FF1 world is bathed in nigh perpetual light or something.

Another thing, is that the credit/distance banking system does not exist, so how is thief ever going to use any of the money he's stored up, and how the heck does he store it up in the first place? It's not like there's a delivery service trustworthy enough to carry 3 tons of golden, valuable trinkets and weapons all the way across the globe over to Elfland. And even once it got there, there's that pesky IRS system thief set up.

If white mage is from a group of people tasked with the safety of the world, how come we've seen only her and BB? Clearly, if they're in the know about the light warriors, why haven't they talked to our heroes personally? Or aided WM somehow? Are they just dicks like Sarda? (Like the other Sages in FF1?)

What does Arachnadude swing from? There aren't even skyscrapers!

It's been mentioned that BM has an odor about him, but no one has brought up that since they've pretty much been wearing the same clothes for a long time with no indication of bathing or having a change, that they should all smell pretty rank.

If Bahamut, the Dragon God-King and all that bumps it with Matoya, what about the queen of all Dragons Tiamat? Is she merely sitting around the Dragon God's home washing dishes, waiting for Bahamut to come back from "bowling"?

If RM has buffing magic (haste and whatnot) and loves making up complicated ideas with magic, machinery, and physics, one would imagine he'd have managed to combine his haste, BM's featherfall, and some hootenanny of other technicalities ( Fall to the ground, then miss) to have our heroes fly without a airship.

You'd think the word would spread that the LW are a roving band of murderers, and towns would just close their gates to them. I mean, firstly every NPC seems to know about things happening in towns on the other side of the continent, which seem implausible for them to have ever been able to go to. Secondly, BM has been seen to have wanted posters. Then again, would could suppose that no townsman survives their murderous rampages, or most towns know of their tendencies and just open the doors in hopes they'll just pass on through.

[WVI]

The armoire didn't hit Vilbert's heart, it just hit his gothicular membrane.

Impossible. He still recites bad poetry!

I think.

Well, he still complains about his dad not understanding him, so that seems to be in order.

[FighterFlight]

Other than this one (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=040330).

Oh, right, murder marinated in sin....

[Bisected8]

Unlimited spellpower? Seriously that would be freakin sweet.

Unlimited spell power and health

[iceddragons]

Why doesn't the hadoken burn BM's robes any more?

[Sky Warrior Bob]

If Bahamut, the Dragon God-King and all that bumps it with Matoya, what about the queen of all Dragons Tiamat? Is she merely sitting around the Dragon God's home washing dishes, waiting for Bahamut to come back from "bowling"?

In FF1 there was no connection between Bahamut & Tiamat. In addition, I'm pretty sure Tiamat is always addressed as a male name. (Of course, it might be fun to have one of his four head to be female in personality.)

SWB

[WVI]

Of course, it might be fun to have one of his four head to be female in personality.)

I didn't know you were into that sort of thing.

[FighterFlight]

Why doesn't the hadoken burn BM's robes any more?

Brian has done a great job of subtlely raising the level of his characters.
They can do things now, and fight better and act more awesomely than ever before. It's one of the amazing beauties of the comic strip. I mean, RM's plans actually work, Thief learned to fight, Fighter is more badass than ever... You think a green giant could stand half a chance against them now?

No way.

Or, of course, there's chances thatBrian simply has them handle whatever situation however he feels, and the plothole is that they don't level, and yet they have abilities beyond what the past would imply.

And in that case, the only solution is that BM knows Blue Magic, which makes him immune to his hadoken, since he already knows the spell? Nah. It's probably because he's done it enough that he can keep the blast away from himself a little better. ie: he levelled up!

[PyrosNine]

In FF1 there was no connection between Bahamut & Tiamat. In addition, I'm pretty sure Tiamat is always addressed as a male name. (Of course, it might be fun to have one of his four head to be female in personality.)

SWB

Oops. Mentioned a different Tiamat. Though your statement brings to mind this one comic (http://www.supermegatopia.com/tmbgr/gallery/megawhat.htm)

Actually, with some research I pulled up This DnD Tiamat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiamat_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29), which is a queen dragon, but Bahamut's evil sister.

And while I suppose Bahamut is big on doing the nasty with old, wrinkly, blind women, He isn't going to do it with what may be his own sister.

Wonder if Brian will bring this up or anything?


Why doesn't the hadoken burn BM's robes any more?

Because he's probably mastered the focal point with which to hold and fire the blast o'doom. Either that, or since the Hadoken is evil, and BM's wholly evil down to his very robes, the hadoken has no effect on him. Or something.

[Bisected8]

Why doesn't the hadoken burn BM's robes any more?

The robes Darko gave him are made of asbestos (him being an evil god and all).

[bass_virus]

How did the Cultists get to the teh arctic and to the sunken sea shrine to begin with?

[Bisected8]

How did the Cultists get to the teh arctic and to the sunken sea shrine to begin with?

Could they have possibly...TAKEN A SHIP!

[bass_virus]

Ah but the only boat the LWs found in the arctic wastes was the Real Light Warrior's. And Sarda invented the airsub.

[WVI]

The robes Darko gave him are made of asbestos (him being an evil god and all).

Yeah, that's totally safer. <.<

[Bisected8]

Ah but the only boat the LWs found in the arctic wastes was the Real Light Warrior's. And Sarda invented the airsub.

1. Maybe they dismantled the boat
2. Magic, end of.

[henke37]

I propose that someone tried to pour water out truoght the bottom of the ship they came with.

About that sleepwalking magic, in my opinion, you would at the very least be limited to a rage like status effect where you can't controll your actions. Or it can be as simple as the mp slowly regenerating while you sleep and even if you sleep, mp will go down if used.

[WVI]

...Or the cultists are just aquatic.

[Locke cole]

In FF1 there was no connection between Bahamut & Tiamat. In addition, I'm pretty sure Tiamat is always addressed as a male name. (Of course, it might be fun to have one of his four head to be female in personality.)

SWBActually, at least in Dawn of Souls version, Tiamat was referenced as female.

[bass_virus]

...Or the cultists are just aquatic.
But when BM killed Suh'zanne and told the other cultists he stepped out, they said he would die if he did that. That is evidence that the cultists may be aquatics, but their bodies can't handle the pressure of bottom of the ocean travel.