New RP, Star Wars like.

[IHateMakingNames]

Thinking about starting a RP (And not being lazy about it for once…).

Takes place in a Star Wars like universe. Meaning I do not care about the story in Star Wars. I do not care if anything that happens in this RP completely contradicts anything in the real Star Wars. If someone is Star Wars obsessed though, I guess I could try and mix in real Star Wars things, though it’s probably easier to not.

Now the Jedi’s are a group of special people who go around helping people. Then some of them decided being mean would be more fun, so they used their powers and took over some places. Now they have armies, and more mean Jedi’s.

So the good Jedi’s united planets and have some armies of their own. Jedi wise the good out number the evil, but army wise it’s about the same.

(Very basic of the story)

Not sure if we should split between good and evil, or all have to be good or evil. (Means we are all on the same side, or split between two sides) So vote on that before you make a bio (And wait till I decide based on votes)

You don't have to be a Jedi to use a light saber. Can't decide if you must have blade weapons for sabers, or if I should allow other shapes.






Point System attached.

[CelesJessa]

Awesome. I'm in.


I would vote on everyone being together. RPs where we have different 'teams' tend to suffer from godmoding and such, and usually die out. And it's easier for you to control what the enemy does.

But on the other hand... seperate groups would be good if this is going to be a very full RP, as I'm imagining it will be.

So my final vote is: We all stay together. (but we aren't all just restricted to the 'light side'. We just work together, even if our methods are different.

[IHateMakingNames]

All on the good Jedi's side? (Lawful Good, Nuetral Good, Chaotic Good)

or

All on the bad Jedi's side? (Lawful Evil, Nuetral Evil, Chaotic Evil)

Everyone else also say which you mean if you want all on one side.

[Stover]

Do we all have to be Jedi? Because I like the idea of having a repeating rifle or heavy blaster rifle.

[CelesJessa]

Ah, sorry. I think we should all be on the Good Jedi's side, personally.

[lazy man]

hmmmmmmm...reminds me of Knights of the Old Republic, sure I'll do it. Can't quite decide on side yet, I'll get back to you on that later.

[IHateMakingNames]

Didn't I mention that you don't have to be a Jedi? You can just be some guy with a gun, or no gun if you want.

And I'll say this again, if your a Jedi, not as many points for everything non force related/light sabers as non Jedi's. Non Jedi's get no force points, but more basic skills/advance skills points. (Enough so Jedi's will also suffer)

[Biran]

Sweet. :D

I agree with Celes. I think that we should all be on the same side.

[Forever Zero]

I am of course in, and I like how you left yourself the out of it being a Star Wars like universe to avoid my SW nitpicking wrath...

I agree that two sides usually have a problem with Godmodding, and I would vote that we all go Light side. I like the idea of having two sides face off, but except in the FF RP, there is usually tons of OOC fights about battles (And even FF RP had some, just not as many as others I've seen around here.), so despite what I want, I vote just one side. Man, thats a hard decision, because there is a lot you can do with two sides of humans facing off (Kind of like the beginning of the FF RP, that was awsome in my opinion), but I stick by it.

Either way, I'll have a Light Side Jedi ready tomarrow most likely, or maybe I'll just grab the one I meant for BM's RP and fix him up, then plug him in here.

[IHateMakingNames]

No, no bios yet. There are many, many skills not mentioned. I said before, what is up there is an UNFINISHED LIST. There are many, many more things you will need to make points for. Though for Jedi's it's not as important, but still useful. (Do you want to be able to use a computer, use medice, drive, use weapons, etc?)

Once I post the entire thing (Will be a attachment on first post), then you make your character.

[Forever Zero]

Okay, then I'll wait until the final draft is up, then I'll post him.

[Technal]

My vote is for every one on one or the other.
I would say preferably evil sense light has been done to death. but either or is fine.

[Squishy Cheeks]

Can I be a weak in the force jedi?

[Rhuhael]

I think that this system is gonna be really good. b/c this eliminates my ability to take an underused ability, slip it in there, and show just how much it can actually do.

You're a shrewd man IHMN. I'm definitely b/c this way everyone will be equal. Although I think that Dark and Light powers shouldn't be discriminated against (mainly b/c I want to use both energy drain and protect at the same time. Can you say overkill? much?)

[IHateMakingNames]

Any force points for Jedi's that is not used will be halved, then you can use anywhere else. But if you are being a weak in the force Jedi, you can only go up to level 3 or something. I don't want someone giving themselves two level fives, then making themselves something great outside of Jedi.

Edit - The list up there is not final. I've got a lot more coming, and some changes to that up there.

Edit 2 - Also, if you think you can try and slip in a skill or two while in the RP, you better hope I don't catch it. And I will be caculating your points.

[Squishy Cheeks]

I was thinking of being a better fighter pilot than a jedi.

[IHateMakingNames]

There will be a complicated (Not really, just confusing) system which will allow you to be a Jedi and a pilot (But nothing else really...)

[lazy man]

I think that there should only be one side.

And this STILL reminds me of Knight of the Old Republic.

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

Can a person with a 5 in force blocking block a blast from somebody with a five in force lighting?

[IHateMakingNames]

I like adding titles...

Beta version 1.1 of the Point System is attached to first post (Some how it was to large, so a small part is in the post itself)

If anyone would be so kind, prehaps you could made example characters (Like some one make a thief using all the points, some one make a Jedi Fighter using all the points, some one make a gun master using all the points, some one make a Jedi/pilot using all the points). That would help testing the points...

[Forever Zero]

As for the attachment, you should have used a .txt document like notepad. Microsoft word starts at 21 kb files, and there is a 35 kb limit on any attachments, and txt documents start at about 6 kb.

However, I'll review the point system in a bit and give my opinion.

[IHateMakingNames]

Did that now, so now it's all one big document.

Edit - Also, when you make a character, do not only use humans. This is Star Wars (Related), I want to see some other races...

Also, take your race in effect to what skills/powers. Like if your a Jedi Ewok, even at level 5 Force Strenght, a Wookie will kick your ass hand to hand.

(Any Star Wars literate people want to make a small list of some good races?)

[Rhuhael]

Ok, suggested adjustments.

Firstly I liked your original system with the jedi points. I don't think you should've changed it. It made a person consider heavily what he wanted and to what extent etc.

Secondly at this point in time strength is a nonsequitor. It's who gets his saber/gun/vibroblade out fastest who wins so I think that force stregnth should be taken out. That's the beauty of oriental martial arts and the jedi. Yoda kicks ass b/c he's fast not b/c he's stronger.

Thirdly I think that basic skill points should be increased for both. 30 power and 16 basic for the jedi is ripped and the other people are just screwed at 38. I think that the normal people should go up to 42 and jedi should go to 20 power and 22 basic making the jedi more streamlined and still able to do more with a compy than turn it on.

I'm just trying to look at this from the point of playability.

[IHateMakingNames]

Jedi Strenght is not how strong you are, but uses the Force to make you even stronger. Like a Jedi Ewok using level 5 strenght could arm wrestle a Wookie and win. (Yes, this contradicts my last post, but oh well) Same with Force Speed.

And I don't like 45... 45 means they can master 9 out of 14 things. I rather they master only things related to what they want there character to be, and crappy in everything else...

38 is a little high in that sense now that I think about it...

[Forever Zero]

Well, first impressions of the list is good. I'm having to make some painful decisions to make the char I want, and I'm juggling skills around to try and get just the right powers in just the right balance. However, I think you are mixing up the words "Galaxy" and "Solar System". If this RP took place in multiple different galaxies, it would mean we could travel trillions of miles at faster then the speed of light... So I'm assuming you meant "Solar System" when you said "Galaxy".

As for species, I have a good link here, but depending on how close you want to follow the species list IHMN (Like if you want Yuuzhan Vong, that would be a no no) people might want to post here first what they are thinking of, and let others decide if it would work. However, if you don't care about SW species status, and maybe only their abilities/appearance, just pick whoever you want.

Here's the link: http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/

[Lycanthrope]

I'd like to play. Probably not as a jedi in the orthodox sense. Still haven't decided yet, but sounds fun.

[Forever Zero]

Rhuhael, I disagree on the list. Force strength has it's uses. It would allow a normal human to grab a door and force it open, and while it isn't quite as good as Force Control, it can be more effective at a cheaper force cost depending on what type of character you go for.

Also, don't drop Jedi points any more. At the rate I'm going, I won't even have one point in all my abilities for Jedi or reguler. Will there be any way to get more points once the RP starts, as in, after certain events or something everyone gets an extra point or two to show advancement in our combat skills or force ability?

EDIT: Question, what will be used to man gun turrets, either on space sihps or on the ground. Will it be a heavy weapon skill, or a vehicle skill?

[IHateMakingNames]

How about this. At certain points you can get an Extra Point. One of those will advance you from level 1 to 2, and level 2 to 3. Two are needed to go from level 3 to 4 and 4 to 5.

Edit - Damnit, I knew I forgot something... I'll just add it to level 3-5 heavy weapons, and 3-5 vehicles. I'll add it later though, in Beta 1.2 (Don't want to change just one thing)

[Forever Zero]

Well, this is the first draft of my character based on the 1.1 rules, so I'll let you decide if it's too overpowered or not.

Force Powers:
Sense - 2
Control - 5
Speed - 3
Strength - 3
Mind Control - 3
Force Immunity - 5
Seeing - 3
Jump - 3
Choke - 3

Non Force:
Lightsaber - 5
Laser Block - 5
Vehicles - 4
Awareness - 2

Note: I didn't include powers I have 0 skill in, but I had to drop quite a few.

[IHateMakingNames]

I'm not liking the level 3 in most of the forces...

And I guess I should add a couple more points for Jedi's in skills...

[Forever Zero]

Well, out of 13 force skills, I had to drop 4, but if you want you could cut off a few force points I guess... This makes me wonder though, how veteran will our Jedi be? This isn't too far off from what an average jedi might have, maybe in all honesty with a little less force power, but our jedi's training from before whenever the RP starts will give a better sense of how powerful they should be.

[IHateMakingNames]

Some point after training...

And now that I think about it, 30 points is around good. Either be average in around everything, or try and specailize in something... (Said around because I'm not liking the level 5s in the average Jedi...)

[Lycanthrope]

Basically, I'm looking to be your weapon's man. Tell me if I'm out of my mind, please:

Light Saber: 5
Laser Deflect: 5
Pistol: 5
Rifle: 5
Machine Guns:4
Heavy Weapons:4
Comp/Con: 2
Vehicles: 2
Stealth: 3
Awareness: 3

[Truce]

Count me in. Of course, like the others, I'll wait the until the full list is finished.

[Krylo]

I think you should seperate vehicles and space ships. Piloting say... an ISD (and even with that mastered, you should have a hell of a time doing it alone), is going to be a lot different than piloting say... an AT-AT.

Also... you should add to either computers or stealing (or both) or make a new skill area for a way to hijack space ships. Your average race car driver doesn't necessarily know how to break into a car and steal it... and I'd imagine stealing a space ship would be even more complicated.

Maybe make a new skill thing for using vibroblades that's like sabers, only switched around. Sabers say you can use vibro-blades but not as good with them... also add force pikes (like spears only the end is vibro-bladish), and force axes (again, vibro-blade-like blade).

Maybe a dodge skill, as well. Your general ability to avoid lasers and melee attacks alike. Wouldn't be as great as laser deflection for getting out of the way of lasers, but it would still be great for non-lightsaber people... or if someone wanted to be a gunslinger.

Possibly make turrets on ships a whole new skill, that is partially influenced by heavy weapons. Kind of like the system I propose for having a new vibro-blades skill. If you can use heavy weapons you can use turrets, but not as well as someone who specialized in them, and vice versa.

Fast talking/diplomacy skill. The ability to weave a convincing story for an NPC so that they'll leave you alone... stupidity should also affect this.

Might want to add forcing someone to sleep to the mind control... I'm relatively certain jedi have done that.

Edit: Edited to add more info on the three sub-races of humans. Check page 8 for more details.

As for races (only putting ones I see as there being a point in using)...
Human-Duh.
....Hapan-Humans from Hapes. Slightly faster, weaker, and the females are more attractive. Hapans are a band of space pirates from the Hapan Cluster that are infamous not only for their skill but for their habit of kidnapping beautiful women and forcing them into marriage.
....Lorrdian-Humans from Lorrd. Black, strong, slow. They have lived a life of slavery and developed their own method of subtle communication that is impossible for outsiders to understand, and gives the lorrdians acute awareness over other people's body language. (In other words you should put five points into awareness if you have one.)
....Dathomiri-Humans from Dathomir. More force attuned, particularily women, and particularily to the darkside. Very female dominated society with next to no technology. Men are slaves and nothing more. Dark jedi have a training center there and it is the only way off the planet, for the most part.
Wookiee-Chewie.
Twi'lek-The thing with the head tails in jabba's palace. Women are often sold into slavery, and are considered the hottest things since <random supermodel here>. Their planet is known for spice production and slavery... the males are generally very sleazy and fast talkers.
Rodian-Greedo... the BH that tried to kill Han was one of these. As a race they have a fascination with violence, and their plays are, throughout the galaxy, seen as some of the best/most realistic/most beautiful depictions of violence and death, depicting every facet of it. Including the mourning afterward.
Mon Calamari-General whatever... the fish looking guy on the MCMP. They're generally good pilots, don't know much more about them, to be honest.
Gamorrean-Orcs. Star Wars orcs.
Jawa-The little dudes on tatooine, we all know what they are. NO ONE has ever seen a Jawa's face. If you make one of these and uncloth yourself in front of anyone, I'll personally have my character kill yours, if IHMN doesn't do it first.
Verpine-Six foot tall bugs. They are EXCELLENT engineers, particularily when it comes to space craft.
Trandoshan-Big ugly lizards. They're mostly bounty hunters, and kinda stupid. Their limbs are not conducive to using vehicles, unless specially designed. In other words, even if you give a trando a 5 in vehicles, he's not going to be piloting much. They're also about as tough as wookiees.
Falleen--'Attractive' lizards. They aren't REALLY attractive (at least not by anyone whose ever seen a human woman), but we're suppose to assume they are, and they can release pheremones that completely control people's emotions. Kind of like force mind control, except they only control emotions.
Chiss-A very very proud race. They are smarter and faster than any kind of human, and not much weaker. They are, however, strictly bound to honor and inflexible. Naming them is also an art in and of itself. They're blue skinned with red eyes.
Zabrak-Darth Maul.
Whiphid-They look like bipedal furry mammoths. They're also VERY VERY VERY stupid, and very strong. They generally don't learn more than about 12, if memory serves, words outside their own language. These things would not be able to use computers, steal, be stealthy, or do anything that requires intellect. They're stronger and more durable than wookiees however... and a bit slower.


And, I vote we stay on the same side, but are allowed to have light or dark side characters. I really want a dark sider with 5 to mind control... ("I think you want to put the barrel of that repeating blaster in your mouth and pull the trigger") although I may change my mind and make a dweeby computer specialist or gunslinger... just depends what other people pick.

[Stover]

This is what my guys mad skizillz are goin to look like, just kick me if I did something wrong.

*Outdated*

Might want to add hand-to-hand or knife-fight skills as well.

[Rhuhael]

Here's my guy according to 1.1. He's going to be a Dathomiri

Force Protect 5
Force Speed 5
Force Drain 5
Force Control 9
Force Negation 3
Force Jump 2
Force Seeing 1

Light Saber 5
Heavy Weaponry 4
Laser Deflect 4
Stealth 2
Vehicles 1

And I had wanted to ask about the extent of the mind control. I think it's a little much for just 5 or 7 points to be able to go "You! Shoot all your friends! And you to!"

[Forever Zero]

Alright, I'm going to take this by the numbers in response to krylo's post.

1. Okay, I'll agree with that. Land vehicles and space vehicles really are two entirely different things to drive, since while a space vehicle can be used on land, a land vehicle can't really be used in space.

2. I partially disagree. I don't think we'll be doing this a lot though, cause if we had to steal a new ship ever planet, we would be crimnals very fast. Also, most space ships have an outer defense to prevnet people breaking in that is at least as good as the internal defenses. I would say you would need four people to steal a space ship, 1 good at Space Ship Repairs (To break through space ship specific defenses), 1 good at lockpicking (To break through the hull hatch), 1 good at computers (To crack the ships internal computer to work without a password or anything), and 1 good at flying the ship (Cause otherwise you just stole something no one can fly...). Technically, depending on how close to the start wars universe this is, computers could take over the role of lockpicker since all spaceships have a computer based locking system, and if you triggered some sort of lock down that a computer guy couldn't crack, you most likely failed already and shoud just run. This would lower is to 3, and you might be able to drop the ship mechanic as well since I don't know exactly how he would help to steal the ship, although he would be very useful after the ship was stolen...

3. I will partially agree to this. Make a skill of non-lightsaber melee weapons, but not for all those subcatagories. A Vibrobalde is way different from a lightsaber, because while a vibroblade has all the weight of a sword or something, the lightsaber beam has no weight, so you basically have to learn to fight with only the weight of the lightsaber hilt, which can be very odd. In this instance, there would be two skills, Lightsabers and Vibro Weapons, since I don't see the need to have so many subweapons like I said, but I would agre to a vibro weapons catagory.

4. Umm, blaster shots are light, and light travels at the speed of light, so how can you dodge something that has basically hit you as soon as it's fired? I would say a dodge ability for non-blaster weapons, but blasters are basically undodgable unless your a Jedi, and I'll cover why later.

5. I still don't see the need for so many specialization, so I would say once again, why not just continue to lump turrets and heavy weapons in the same category? We have a bunch of skills as it is, and I don't see a reason to split the two for a minor difference.

6. I'll agree with that, non-jedi need an ability to rival Force Mind Control or whatever that skill was. I think it should generally be not as effective, but it could be a substitute (as in, at mind control level 5 you can manipulate basically anyone but a jedi no matter how much they hate/like you, but at level 5 diplomacy, the best you could do was manipulate those that are neutral to your cause.)

7. In my opinion, that is the same skill again. It's not that much harder to knock someone out then it is to tell them they didn't see something.

Now, my own thought here. I think weapon delfection needs to be it's own skill. Now, the reason I say this, is how practical for the average man to grab up a sword and start bouncing bullets back. It doesn't happen. The only reason a jedi can do it is because of a combination seeing a second in the future, and reading the minds of their opponents, so they know where the shot will be before it hits. An average person, no matter how good, can't predict this well, because even a minor distance off, and they have a nanosecond to try to compensate (This is my argument for dodge above as well). If you do make this an average person skill still, then I vote that if an average person puts points in it, the cost should be tripled so it takes 3 points to raise it by 1, while for a jedi its still 1 to 1.

[Rhuhael]

I agree with zero on all counts. I also think that we should just switch laser deflect with dodge and light saber with vibro blade for non jedi's b/c that way it will be so much easier.

Also diplomacy is good but I still maintain that you cannot get somebody to kill somebody they are working with using mind control. It just would be over-powered. There is no instance in the movies which justifies it. That's why you use force control which is overall more flexible and more realistic

And heavy weapons includes thermal detonators right? that's the big reason I took it.

[IHateMakingNames]

In Star Wars game you can make allies kill eachother. It's useless in a big group though, because while your sitting there telling people one by one to attack their friends while waving your hands, a bunch of people will be shooting at you. And mines, grenades, and other explosives go under Heavy Weapons.

And here is what I am doing to the list.

Made a new category, Weapons. Includes Light Sabers, Laser Delfection (Light Saber Only, Non jedi's only go up to 1), Vibro-Baldes, Force-Spears, Force-Axes, Pistols, Rifles, Machine Guns, Heavy Weapons, Turrets, Ground Fighter Vehicles, Space Fighter Vehicles. Jedis will have about 12 points, Non Jedis have about 20.

Adding Fast Talking/Diplomacy to Non Jedi Stuff

For Hijacking, a Computer/Console person must remove the security system, and a Ground Vehicles/Space Vehicles person must pilot the thing.

[Forever Zero]

You never see it in the movies because all the people that use it are light jedi, and telling one friend to kill another is obviously a dark jedi action. I believe there are cases of it in the books, and there are lots of cases of it in the games, even though games aren't official canon.

EDIT: I disagree on points, you need to make non-jedi skill points at least 30, and potentially 35 or 40, or it will cripple the class, because while jedi can fall back on their vast array of force skills, non-jedi only have there other skills.

[Rhuhael]

No bad Zero! You're making me reevaluate my entire character! *runs off screaming into hills.*

And the weaponry thing is just added on? It's in addition to non-jedi stuff and frees up points there? or is it taken out of that?

[IHateMakingNames]

Forever, how often do you see Jedi's use any weapon besides a Light Saber? 30 is 6 different mastered weapons, while Jedi's barely ever use anything besides a saber. I don't want to see some level 5 Light Saber/Laser deflect guy also be a master of every type of hand held laser weapon.

[Forever Zero]

No, you misunderstand, ONLY the non-jedi get the 30, jedi can stay at 12. Jedi usually don't use non-jedi skills, but the non-jedi need on their non-jedi skills, because they don't have anything else.

[Rhuhael]

I know but you saw luke use a blaster right? I'm just thinking about how to divide that.

So with 12 weapon skills, 16 non-jedi, and 30 force that's what we're looking at?

[Forever Zero]

Yes, but Luke was also bascially a normal person until he realized he had Jedi-powers. Most jedi are raised from infancy to become jedi, so Luke had to learn (In relation to this RP) non-jedi skills to survive until he became a Jedi. You don't see him use his blaster much after he got his lightsaber...

[IHateMakingNames]

I like 20 though. Either they can be good with the melee weapons, or good with the ranged weapons, or good at piloting weapons as well as two other weapons. I want to keep it more seperated, so one guy can be the melee guy while some one else can be specialized in only ranged.

Also, any points you don't use in Weapons can be halved then carried over to Non Jedi Stuff. This does not go the other way around. Jedi Powers points can't be transfered.

[Forever Zero]

Um, question, when are you officially going to upgrade to 1.2, because I'm getting mildly confused now, because I thought weapons and non-jedi stuff was all one category...

[IHateMakingNames]

No, [b]Weapons[b] is a whole new category, and includes what I mentioned before (Not including Weapons Turrets, that is being added to Ground Fighters and Space Fighters). And I'm still typing...

[Rhuhael]

So is this ok?

Force Control 9
Force Protect 5
Force Drain 5
Force Speed 5
Force Negation 3
Force Jump 2
Force Seeing 1

Stealth 5
Vehicles 1
Laser Deflect 5
Theivery 5

Light Saber 5
Heavy Weaponry 5
Pistols 1
Vibro-Blades 1

That's how it would be divided up?

[IHateMakingNames]

Beta Version 1.2 is up. Rhuhael, your guess had some point vaules wrong.

[Technal]

here is another sample character app
Sense: 3
F.Control: 9
Speed: 3
Seeing: 5
Jump: 2
Heal: 3
Protect: 5

Saber: 5
Deflect: 5
S.Fighter: 2

Computers: 3
Robots: 5
Awarness: 4

[Biran]

Here's hoping that's the last version... *Knock on wood*

[lazy man]

I'm just really confused right now so I won't really comment until the thing's finalized

[IHateMakingNames]

Start making bios now... I think the list is good now. We're all on the same team, the good guys... (Means if you were a Jedi, raised from infancy)

[Forever Zero]

Question, if you have leftover Skills, can you transfer them into weapons at the same rate as transferring Weapons into Skills? It doesn't exactly make snese why you wouldn't be able to, and your weapon changes are making it tricky... (I still don't agree with making a new class for Vehicle Weapons, and think it should go under Heavy Weapons, but that's how it goes...)

[Krylo]

4. Umm, blaster shots are light, and light travels at the speed of light, so how can you dodge something that has basically hit you as soon as it's fired? I would say a dodge ability for non-blaster weapons, but blasters are basically undodgable unless your a Jedi, and I'll cover why later.I thought you were an SW geek? Blaster bolts are super heated gas (to the point of entering it's plasma state) that is fired. That's why cloud city was a gas mine (for weaponry), and why you could see blaster bolts moving through the air. It's also why Han Solo dodged a lot... at least that's the official explanation.

Not to mention a gunslinger can 'dodge' bullets, even though they move too fast for you to see unless you're watching it travel past you. Dodging a projectile isn't so much dodging as seeing where the barrel is, knowing when it's about to fire by knowing how someone using a gun is going to operate it, and not being in front of the barrel when that happens. It also has to do with moving in odd patterns. More like 'evasion' than 'dodging' I suppose.

Also, Lightsabers are supposedly plasma that's magnetically pulled back down into the blade creating a thin loop... which is why the 'light' stops at a certain point.

I used to play an SW MUD... and this stuff was brought up CONSTANTLY.

As for the rest of that, yah... I agree.

[Forever Zero]

I never knew that much, I always thought it was light that is focused through the gas in to a laser, but you learn something new everyday.

And I always wondered how Lightsabers worked... What was this SW MUD?

[Krylo]

www.legendofthejedi.com is it's website... I don't really do much there anymore, so I can't vouch for what it's like now.

[IHateMakingNames]

Ok, going to add a Dodging skill now.

Also, I remember someone wanting a tonfa at TWC when Forever tried this... You can have a light saber tonfa (Just add an extra handle to a short light saber, and it's a tonfa)

Oh, and since this has an annoying point system, the story shouldn't suck. So I give kyrlo story writing/changing powers (Along with myself).

Edit - I have encountered a problem while trying to write up a Dodging thing... Can't really write it up correctly... Some one else want to make one?

[Forever Zero]

I'll write up something in a sec. What about my question, transferring Skill points into Weapon points, since if they can transfer one way, I don't see why they couldn't transfer the other way.

[Biran]

Name: Charles C. Calvin
Age: 27
Race: Ewok
Jedi?: Yes
Appearance: About 2 feet tall, he wears crudely sewn clothing and is covered in light brown fur. His eyes are are hazel and he has a black nose. He looks like a teddy bear.
Weapons: He prefers to use slings and spears but he will pick up a light saber if he ever needs to.
Bio: Calvin was a young child when he first heard of the Jedis. One day a ship landed on his planet asking for recruitment. He was young, but old enough to know he wanted to be a Jedi. He quietly crawled inside their ship before they left again. After they landed, the people inside noticed that he was too young to stay, but he refused to leave. Reluctantly they let him stay and raised him as a Jedi.
Skills:
Force Skills
Force Sense: 3
Force Control: 6
Force Speed: 5
Force Immunity/Block: 5
Force Jump: 4
Force Heal: 3
Force Protect: 2
Weaponry
Light Saber: 3
Force-Spear: 4
Sling: 5 (Can I just say he has 5 in this and say he's mastered it?)
Skills
Ground Vehicles: 3
Medicine/Non-Force Healing: 3
Stealth: 4
Dodging: 2

[IHateMakingNames]

4 feet is to tall. Ewoks looked about 2 feet tall... (From what I remember)

And for Forever... I don't know why I have it like that, but I don't want to give more points for weapons... Now I think I'll get rid of the tranfering at all (Someone could just put 5 in one weapon, then transfer the rest and master two other things then say they will always have that weapon...)

[Truce]

Points (Assuming I didn't mess it up)

The Force

Force Sense: 5
Force Control: 5
Force Speed: 5
Mind Control: 3
Force Protect/Block: 5
Force Immunity: 5

Weaponry

Lightsaber: 5
Laser Deflect: 5

Skills

Stealth: 5
Diplomacy: 5
Computers/Consoles: 2

Name: Adaron
Age: 28
Race: Hapan.
Bio: Raised as a jedi from a young age, and has spent all his life in the order.

[IHateMakingNames]

Going to have to scratch that Ecurt, just decided that I'm removing levels 7-9 on Force Control (Will lose 2 force points total for Jedis)

[Forever Zero]

First off, I'm going to be a Chiss, and it will most likely be the one from BM's RP that collapsed (Man a bunch of people I hated joined that, I'm sort of glad it died...).

Second, I have an updated list I have attached.

Third, Transferring skills is a somewhat realistic representaiton that while some are jacks of all trades, some spent way more time then they should have doing other things, so you can sacrifice weapons for skills or visa-versa. I don't know if I'll agree with it, but I'll have to accept it.

EDIT: Hold on, changing list again...

EDIT 2 :WAIT, 2 Force points for Jedi?! Ugh...

EDIT 3: Updated list...

YET ANOTHER EDIT: See, this is why I haven't made my guy yet...

FINAL EDIT: Dropped my updated point system, IHMN will have his up later.

[IHateMakingNames]

One thing I don't like about the skill is people will put points in dodging, then just say they will never get hit. I don't care how good at dodging you are, if there are 6 guns with pistols and machine guns, you better get hit at least once.

[Forever Zero]

I agree with that. Do you want it back out, or leave it in? Also, I won't update that list anymore for a while, since you said it was the final draft about a page ago, and since then it has undergone some fairly drastic changes...

[Bite the Wax Tadpole]

Why do we have to even use this covuluted 'points' system? Its so stupid...just ask them to say if there better with a lightsaber or the Force, and if there competent with guns and vehicles, then decide if they god-mod.

[IHateMakingNames]

Just edit yours out all together... I'll add it in (It's a really crappy skill though...)

Edit - Because I feel like trying a point system, that is why.

[Krylo]

I'd say make levels 1-3 of dodge (assuming we're still on a five point to max it system) as having no effect on blasters, level 4 as being able to dodge the odd blaster bolt if you get lucky, and level 5 as being able to locate decent cover and make yourself slightly harder to hit on the way to it.

That way you won't have people dodge dodge dodging out in the middle of the street while fighting 10 stormtroopers with heavy repeating blasters.

Also: which weapon category would flame throwers be in? (they're about the only SW weapon that would give a non-jedi a chance against jedis)

And something I forgot about hapans lorrdians and dathomiri... I'll edit this into my other post too.

Edit: Put Hapan history after what they really should be for this RP, just so that people could see my reasoning for making them that.

Hapans-Space Pirates. They're uncouth, male dominated, and known for kidnapping beautiful women and forcing them into marriage... they are, however, amazing pilots for the most part.

(They actually are a female dominated society that is also VERY proud [bordering on chiss like pride]. They were populated by a band of male space pirates who would kidnap and marry the most beautiful women from other galaxies, thus giving the people of the hapan cluster their above average beauty. The jedi order eventually wiped them out, however... and now they hate jedis. I would say that seeming as this is star-wars like... and it seems that the jedi order is just starting up, we'll have them still be space pirates.)

Dathomiri-The planet Dathomir is a barren wasteland for the most part, and those large creatures that jabba kept one of (I'm sure FZ can remember the name), roamed about there pretty freely. The dathomiri WOMEN are able to train them using the force. This is an EXTREMELY female dominated society, men are slaves and nothing more. Used for sex, manual labor, and opening jars. If you're going to be a dathomiri male you should probably be either misogynist, or servile towards women... if you're goind to be a dathomiri female you should be dominant towards men. Also... they don't have technology past medieval europe's levels on Dathomir. Unless you have a reason you got off the planet young you shouldn't be able to use blasters etc. with any real proficiency (just vibro weapons). AND, speaking of getting off the planet... as that this is Star Wars like... I'm going to play with the timeline a bit, and say that the dark jedi have already found the 'nightsisters' clan, and set up a training center to create dark jedi there. You could have been made a slave to the dark jedi and been freed by light jedi or something of that nature...

Lorrdians-Much like black people in our world... they spent a lot of time under slavery. As a result of this, in much the same way that american slaves began to communicate through song, they learned to communicate in a way that others couldn't... VERY subtle sign language. A Lorrdian saying "The plan starts at midnight, prepare to move the heavy blasters" could be something like a certain twitch of their arm muscles. As a result of this they're VERY aware of other people's emotions through their body language... and no one but a lorrdian can 'speak' their language, due to how subtle and complicated it is.

[IHateMakingNames]

Flamethrower would be a heavy weapon.

[Forever Zero]

Rancors is what your thinking of, they tamed them and used them like horses. The Dathmoir Rancors were also much healthier then Jabba's, and they were a larger, more powerful breed.

And Bullets are another weapon that works against Jedi. In the book Shatterpoint, there is both a melee weapon that works againts lightsabers (It's semi-unique though, so we wouldn't have it), and bullets would go through the beam as well it was established.

[Krylo]

And Bullets are another weapon that works against Jedi. In the book Shatterpoint, there is both a melee weapon that works againts lightsabers (It's semi-unique though, so we wouldn't have it), and bullets would go through the beam as well it was established.

I didn't know they ever used bullets in the SW universe. I argued for like half an hour with someone on that MUD about it, actually. "I don't see why they don't just use bullets." "They don't have them." "So you're telling me that they couldn't make a pistol, but they can make plasma weapons?" "They don't bother making them because the blasters are better." "Against jedi? A bullet would just pass through the beam! Even if it melted, a molten bullet would still kill."

(I was the person for bullets)

And yah, rancor. That's what I thought, but my brain was sitting there going "Isn't a rancor that thing in the first forest in Xenogears... that can't be the same name as the Star Wars thing."

[IHateMakingNames]

A person with a high level in guns can hit a Jedi (With a laser).

[Forever Zero]

There are guns, but they aren't used because lasers are better against everything except Lightsabers, and they aren't used current SW time line because Stormtrooper armor can deflect bullets, but not lasers. Bullets were only used in that book because there was some fungus on the planet that reduced the complicated machinery in blasters to scrap in no time, while normal guns didn't require the wiring and such of a blaster, so they were the only guns that worked. So yes, guns do exist, they just aren't used 99% of the time because the Blaster is regarded as the superior weapon, but a Jedi is also weak against bullets. Note, they will be hard to find since they are never used, so I don't expect everyone in the universe to carry a pistol or machine gun, and in fact I don't expect anyone would actually carry them, but they do exist.

Also, about that MUD, it was taken off line "Indefinitly" for upgrades and reworking the system, so I might look around for another one to look in to...

[IHateMakingNames]

Bullets may go through a light saber, but a Jedi can always use the force and stop the bullet, or at least redirect it.

And I've decided that you can not use points in Weapons or Skills, then halve those points and transfer to Weapons or Skills (But in Bio, say so) And no rounding up.

Edit - Oh, and because we are on the 'good' side, that means we have that whole "Jedi Code" thing. So no abusing your powers. (Like Mind Controlling other people)

Here's mine.

Name: Suggestions for his name
Age: 26
Sex: Male
Race: Human
Weapons: Dual light sabers, one red and one blue.
Bio: ____ was raised to be a Jedi when he was four years old. Prefering the more destructive side of the force, he trained in saber fighting and the offensive side of the force mainly. He became more of a Spy Jedi, but if caught he can fight off his attackers and live.

Jedi Powers

Force Sense - 2
Force Control - 5
Force Speed - 3
Min Control - 5
Force Jump - 4
Force Choke - 4
Force Lighting - 5

Weapons (2 points not used in Skills, tranfered to 1 point)

Light Saber - 5
Laser Deflect - 5
Vibro-Blade - 3

Skills

Stealth - 5
Awareness - 5

[Krylo]

Hmm... I can't decide whether to be a bad-ass gunslinger, or a nerdy computer guy. Someone tell me which I should go with, then I'll make up my bio.

I've decided against force, because I figure nearly everyone will use it... and the urge to twink it into near invincibility is too strong.

Computer nerd will look like this:

No jedi...
Weapon Skills (6):
1 vibro blade
2 pistol
1 machine gun
1 ground fighter vehicle
1 space fighter vehicle.

Basic Skills (I get 35 points here):
5 comp/console.
5 robots.
2 ground vehicles.
1 space vehicles.
3 mechanics for vehicles.
3 medicine and non-force healing
3 stealth
3 stealing
4 awareness.
3 fast talking
3 bullet dodging
----

If gunslinger:
No Force
Weapon Skills (23):
2 vibro-blade
5 Pistols
4 Rifles
5 Machine Guns
3 Heavy Weapons
2 ground fighter
2 space fighter

Basic Skill (26):
2 Comp
2 Ground Vehicle
2 Space Vehicle
2 Medicine
5 Stealth
5 Awareness
3 Fast Talking
5 Bullet Dodging

[IHateMakingNames]

You could wait until some other bios, and if some one is a gun obsessed guy, you take the computer hacker. If some one takes a computer guy, you take the gunslinger.

Edit - I was trying to choose between Jedi Spy or a non Jedi Spy... I chose Jedi because that was the point why I made this RP.

[Rhuhael]

Oh bow down ye and behold the mighty twinkage.

Name: Salk don jin
Age: 34
Race: Defel
Weapons: Lightsaber (black, hell yeah), DH-17 modified pistol, Wrist rocket launcher, Skothli (spelling?) Spraystick, a flachette launcher. Also wears plate armor.
Bio: Salk began his life on a small star system not too far from Coruscant. At the age of ten he was taken into the care of the jedi order. He always had enjoyed taking advantage of his fellow students fallabilities. He developed odd powers right off the bat and beat his opponents through subterfuge and surprise more often. He broke off from the main jedi task force and now works as informant and special ops.

Force powers

Force control 6
Force Speed 5
Mind Control 5
Force Protect 5
Force Drain 5
Force Seeing 1
Force Immunity 1

Weapons

Light Saber 5
Laser Deflect 2
Heavy Weapons 4
Pistols 1

Non-Jedi

Space Vehicles 2
Ground Vehicles 2
Stealing 2
Stealth 3
Computers 2
Mechanics 1


I assumed that the random weapons in the manuals were amenable to "heavy"

[IHateMakingNames]

1) Change from 10 to 3-5. Anikin was 9 and he was only trained by oen guy even though the Council did not want it. (They also sensed evil, but he was old for training)

2) If you broke from the order, you are not with us. We are the 'good guys' as by votes, so if you have Jedi powers you are in the order.

3) Powers, Weapons, Skills?

[Krylo]

Cat Dudes were Bothan... and they were mostly spies, so the subterfuge thing in battles = Good.

Edit: I also agree with IHMN on the rest of it though.

[lazy man]

Since I can, I guess I'll put up my character

Name: Jack
Age 24
Sex: male
Race: Human
Weapons: dual lightsabers: one blue, one green
Bio: Jack has been in the Jedi order so long that he couldn't even remember his real name, just his nickname, which is what everyone calls him. After passing the test to become a Jedi, he developed a love for machinery and became a pretty good pilot. He's improved over the years and became one of the Order's best pilots, being able to pilot almost any thing that he can get his hands on.

Jedi Powers
Force Sense: 2
Force Control: 6
Force Speed: 3
Force Strength: 2
Force Heal: 5
Force Drain: 5
Force Lightning: 5

Weapons
Lightsabers: 5
Laser Deflect: 5

Skills
Ground Vehicles: 5
Space Vehicles: 5
Mechanics for Vehicles: 3

[IHateMakingNames]

They call people by name in the Order... Your guy must have a horrible memory if he can't even remember his name...

[Stover]

Skills (updated, yo!)

Pistols-3
Rifles-5
Heavy Weapons-5
Ground Fighter Vehicles-5
Space Figher Vehicles-3
(Two extra=1)

Computer-3
Ground Vehicles-5
Space Vehicles-3
Mechanics-2
Bullet Dogeing-3
Medicine-2
Awareness-2
Stealth-4
Fast Talking-3

Name: Jason Bourne (Look, I don't have a really great stock of names, ok?)
Age: 29
Race: Human
Weapons: Heavy Blaster pistol (modified: flashlight, laser-sight, retractable 4x scope),
Heavy Blaster Rifle (modified: flashlight, laser-sight, adjustable 2x-75x scope, increased firepower, faster firing rate),
1 thermal detonator (just incase ;)),
3 frag gernades,
3 ion gernades,
Equipment: Glasses (built-in 2x-8x binoculars, sunglasses. See bio),
Com-link/mic attached to glasses,
Light enviro armor (sacrifices some protective power in order to keep body at the right temperature)
Collapseable hover-bike (Max speed on level ground is going to be about 130 kph, collapses to the size of a small backpack, think the hoverbike from Tribes 2, except smaller)

Bio: Jason has been in the armed services ever since he was drafted into his planet's defence at the age of 14. After he left the army at age 18, he became a mercenary, and was continuosly employed in fighting pirates and bandits in the outer rim. During this time, he was captured by a group of angry pirates, who proceded to remove his eyes and optic nerve. Before they killed Jason, he was rescued by another mercenary company, who took him to a hospital, where he recieved mechanical eyes. The reason he wears glasses the mechanical eyes were improperly installed. After this breif interlude, Jason went back to fighting pirates and bandits.

(Remeber, kick me if I did something wrong)

[Rhuhael]

Ok I'm throughly confused by what's wrong with my character. And I'm thinking like going the Han Solo version of a Jedi. He was good then to pay off his debts he turned into a crook. Now he's going to join back up with you guys being the rogue. I just don't want to be constrained by the rules of morality.

I'm also wondering where you're seeing 10?

[Krylo]

Meh... everyone's picking human... and I hate all the other races... at least for my two character concepts. I like Chiss... but a chiss wouldn't be 'nerdy' and wouldn't be as uncouth as I want my gunslinger to be either. Twi'leks are sleazy, and rarely do any of those two things... falleen, again, can't be nerdy, and rarely (if ever) engage in combat... I just don't like wookiees.

[IHateMakingNames]

No mini gernade launcher attached to another weapon.

Edit - I am not a Star Wars person. I picked the race I know about.

Edit 2 - Rhuhael, tough. No Jedi in the Order would work with a renegade Jedi. If you want to be a Jedi, you need to be in the Order and listen to the rules. You don't have to listen to them very well (Like I am going to), but you have to listen to them.

[Stover]

Even if its smaller than a Pringles can and can barely shoot farther than one can throw?

[CelesJessa]

I'll have my bio for my character up sooner or later. When are you hoping to start this so I know if I should hurry up. (It takes me awhile to decide on force powers and also I'm currently distracted with "the scarlet letter" >_< blah)

[lazy man]

Yes he has a horrible memory and about picking a human, I have no sense of creativity(that would be for the name too) and there's so many that I'm just REALLY confused.

[Rhuhael]

Be a Defel, They're like totally invisible and they're short and hairy, uncouth and wear visors b/c their planet is incredibly dark. fits your bill eh?

[IHateMakingNames]

Stover... I do not like random things added in for no reason even when not having them is better. If you can throw a grenade just as good, why weigh down your rifle and ruin your shots?

[Krylo]

Ahh, yah, I forgot to add Defel. They aren't invisible, per SAY, but their bodies don't reflect any light in the visible spectrum... thus they see, and only reflect, light of... I believe it was ultraviolet? Or was it infrared? Well, one or the other... and they can only be seen under black lights or with a special visor.

Also... Rodian would be good for someone that wants a violent little cur.

[Stover]

Thwarted by logic once again...

...damn you logic!

[Forever Zero]

I alreay said I'm going Chiss, so there will be at least one alien (Man, this is beginning to remind me of BM's RP.) I'm busy, but once I find it and fix it up according to the current rules, I'll post.

[Biran]

I'll just repost my bio to nake sure it doesn't get lost.

Name: Calvin C. Charles
Age: 27
Race: Ewok
Jedi?: Yes
Appearance: About 2 feet tall, he wears crudely sewn clothing and is covered in light brown fur. His eyes are are hazel and he has a black nose. He looks like a teddy bear.
Weapons: He prefers to use slings and spears but he will pick up a light saber if he ever needs to.
Bio: Calvin was a young child when he first heard of the Jedis. One day a ship landed on his planet asking for recruitment. He was young, but old enough to know he wanted to be a Jedi. He quietly crawled inside their ship before they left again. After they landed, the people inside noticed that he was too young to stay, but he refused to leave. Reluctantly they let him stay and raised him as a Jedi.
Skills:
Force Skills
Force Sense: 3
Force Control: 6
Force Speed: 5
Force Immunity/Block: 5
Force Jump: 4
Force Heal: 3
Force Protect: 2
Weaponry
Light Saber: 3
Force-Spear: 4
Sling: 5 (Can I just say he has 5 in this and say he's mastered it?)
Skills
Ground Vehicles: 3
Medicine/Non-Force Healing: 3
Stealth: 4
Dodging: 2

[Rhuhael]

Ya know what? I'm gonna take Defel. Forget the cat guy. I'm going stumpy, cute, fuzzy, and almost nonexistent.

[IHateMakingNames]

Rhuhael - What is a Skothli? And if it is a gun, you need to get rid of two guns on your guy. If not, you need to get rid of one. And you still need to get rid of leaving the Order.

[Rhuhael]

*sigh*
The Skothli spray stick is a delay tactic gun that shoots sticky ionized webs that stop people from moving. they're resistant to blaster fire and even lightsabers.
And I'm gonna kinda be an "outpatient jedi" if anything. I'm with you guys but I don't live there. Sort of an informant. B/c I built this guy on the proposition that he really was kind of a honor-bereft person. Besides that would mesh perfectly with my being a Defel.

I changed the leaving thing and I gave up the disruptor (it was overpowered anyway) and the thermal detonators.

[IHateMakingNames]

Attached a thing of all the characters to first post. Made one change myself to one character (Stover's guy, his collapsable hover bike. It doesn't collapse anymore)

And ultimately, a non Jedi will be a little better then a Jedi in Skills if they are the same level.

[Forever Zero]

Alright, finally got it all together.

Name: Zeth Durahan
Race: Chiss
Age: 22
LightSaber Type: Dual lightsabers, both with light blue blades
Other weapons: None
Bio: Rased in Chiss society, he showed a stunning capability for tactics at a very early age, and was skilled in a short time in anything he was put too. Soon it was realized that his incredible powers came from his innate force skills. In secret, he was smuggled to the Jedi Acadamy so he could be taught by the best, even though it was against the Chiss' normal policy of dealing with outsiders. After recieving his training, he decided instead of returning, he would use his powers to help the "outsiders" most of his race hated.

Force Powers: (30 points, all used)
Sense - 2
Control - 5
Speed - 3
Strength - 3
Mind Control - 3
Force Immunity - 5
Seeing - 3
Jump - 3
Choke - 3

Weapons: (Modified 14 points, 2 from skills, all used)
Lightsaber: 5 (Specialty in Dual Lightsaber fighting and Single Lightsaber fighting)
Laser Deflect: 5
Space Vehicles: 4

Skills: (12-8=4 which become 2 bonus points for weapons)
Awareness: 2
Stealth: 2
Space Vehicles: 4

[lazy man]

I've got a question, if your guy's in a one-person ship and he doesn't have any points in the weapons for that kind of ship, can he still shoot with it?

[IHateMakingNames]

If you mean you have a 5 if Space Vehicles, but no points in Space Fighter Vehicles, then no, you can't shoot. You just don't know how/how to properly.

And no more Jedi's.

[Stover]

Its shoot, damnit!

[CelesJessa]

And no more Jedi's.
Noooooo. I'm too late to be a Jedi? Damn you "The Scarlett Letter"!! (well, at least I finally finished the book, so I won't get in trouble in English class)

Well, it's back to the drawing board for me.... now what kind of character should I be now that my dreams of being a Jedi have been crushed. ^_^; heheh.

Can I be the pilot of the Suncrusher? (hehe. I'm just kidding really.)

[IHateMakingNames]

You can be a Jedi if you want. After her though, no more Jedi's.

(Who cares if you do somewhat bad in English. You can speak the language, read, and write, the class is worthless now)

[Forever Zero]

Hey, don't knock English, where else will learn about all those dusty old classics that are dull enough to kill an elephant, but that your English teacher assures you will have some sort of effect on your life?

Actually, I have a pretty cool English teacher, so we don't end up reading many classics, although Tess is a non-classic that nearly killed me when we had to read it, so really there is no way to win in and English class...

Oh yeah, well if you get the Suncrusher, I want a Yuuzhan Vong worldship! Then it could just open up a black hole and suck in the Suncrusher, muahahaha!

(Oh, and in all honesty, colleges care if you are good at English. It doesn't seem logical, but they do, so I learned to suck it up and do adequate in my classes regardless of how little I care about imagery in Alias Grace...)

[IHateMakingNames]

I mentioned this before, and I shall mention this again. krylo and (now) Forever have story making/changing power. 1) Because I am lazy, and if I start to get lazy they will continue and no one will realize it. 2) They are smart. 3) They know about Star Wars more then I do. 4) I want a good story after all this points crap.

[CelesJessa]

You can be a Jedi if you want. After her though, no more Jedi's.
Thank you! ^_^ Now for me to do the point system correctly the first time through... (I've never been good with point systems, except in the game FRAG) Question: (I know it might have been answered earlier, if so, I apologise in advance) Can only Jedi use lightsabers? (in this RP)


(Who cares if you do somewhat bad in English. You can speak the language, read, and write, the class is worthless now)
Those are my thoughts, but obviously my school and parents don't think the same thing. Needless to say. I have to pass all my classes (including english) with a C or better to graduate, and I would like to graduate in the year 2006 like has been planned.

[IHateMakingNames]

Anyone can use a Light Saber, but only a Jedi can deflect lasers past level 1.


And I said some what bad... Which was supposed to mean a low B... Besides, your a sofmore (However you spell that), colleges mainly care about your Junior year (And more recently Senior)

[Lycanthrope]

Damn, you're forcing me to reivaluate. I'll upgrade as soon as I look it over.

For the time being, my race is human, my name is Hal Norov

Ok

Name: Hal Norov
Race: Human
Jedi?: No
Lightsaber type: Normal
Other Weapon's: Laser Pistol (blaster), Telescopic laser rifle,
Bio: Raised as a Bounty Hunter, Hal Norov is a master of light weapons, better than many jedi's with a light saber. He lives a spartan life, caring little for wealth and comfort, living slowly off of what money he comes into.

Light Saber: 5
Laser Deflect: 1
Pistol: 5
Rifle: 5
Machine Gun: 5
Land Vehicle Fighting: 3
Space Ship Fighting: 5


Com/Con: 2
Ground Vehicles: 2
Space Vehicles: 2
Stealth: 3
Bullet Dodge: 5

[Rhuhael]

Hey you guys get off easy. My rents are college professors and one of them is an English Prof! If I get below an A they don't speak to me!

Oh and I changed my race to Defel.

[IHateMakingNames]

Lycan, you can't go past level 1 in Laser Deflect without being a Jedi (Forever explained while around page 7)

[Forever Zero]

If you don't think colleges care about sophmore year, your wrong. I've been undergoing college interviews (you can replace "College Interviews" with "Hideous Torture" and it means the same thing...) and they care about GPA (The average grades from all 4 years of high school) and the technical grades from each year. They all want your high school transcript, which has all your years of grades, and they look it over for problems from any year. *Shiver* Getting into college is messing with my head, and stressing me out cause I put off everyhting I need to do. Of course, I can't wait to get to college and get out of the house (I graduate in 2004, Booyah!), but it's killing me just trying to get into a college.

[Lycanthrope]

Duely noted and changed, sorry, I didn't have time to fully read through all the posts.

[Forever Zero]

That's okay, it's actually way back on page 4 (Man this thread is filling up fast. Something like 8 pages in one day...)

[Rhuhael]

Yeah it was a bitch to catch up this morning. Everything had adjusted by the time I was back.

[IHateMakingNames]

Added Lycan to the character attachment on first page. But changed one thing in his bio, added (Or so he thinks). Mainly because Jedi's are the Light Saber gods... You can be good, but it's a large exaggeration to say your better then many Jedi's (A couple maybe...)

[Krylo]

Looking at the character list... we have a bunch of Jedi Fighters... a non-jedi fighter, and two jedi-pilots. Guess I'll be going with computer nerd.


Name: Ghyslain Raza (I'm sure someone is going to get that joke)
Age: 17
Sex: Male
Race: Human
Weapons: One low power blaster pistol. He VERY rarely uses it, however, being deathly afraid of fighting.
Equipment: He carries a kit of various electronic and engineering tools along with a datapad.
Bio: Ghyslain has an IQ well into the 200s, if not higher... unfortunately, this did not make his life easy. Rather quite the opposite. He was hated by schoolmates, who envied his ability to do well in any class with minimal work... so long as it didn't require him to do anything physical. Which is another point that made him hated: He never participated in the physical games that the other students played. He simply didn't like them, and even if he had liked them, he was a bit of a clutz. Actually he was an incredible clutz, although he became rather coordinated during his early teens. By then, however it was too late, the damage had been done, and his hatred of all things sport-like had been well ingrained into him.
He, of course, also passed all of his classes with 4.0s, and for awhile it was actually do to his own work. At the age of 8 he discovered all the things one could do with a datapad and toolkit... especially when he was around computer terminals. He was a quick study, learning to hack systems, create viruses, and do anything else he liked in the cyber realm. This interest also lead him to his interest in robotics (as that they are somewhat similiar to computers), and eventually mechanics, although his true love is the cyber realm.
By the age of 12 it had consumed his life, and his abilities only continued to increase. Soon his scores in class had nothing to do with his working at them, but rather with his ability to simply break into the school system and adjust his scores allowing him time to play about in all sorts of places that he should not be playing, including but not limited to: corporate databases, criminal syndicate's computer files, and government information.
This would prove to be his downfall as he was caught but one of the criminal syndicate's slicers at 13. The slicer wasn't smarter than him, but the man was far more experienced, and thanks to that was able to pin-point Ghyslain's whereabouts. A squad was sent to retrieve him and find out what he knew, and who he'd told... he spent days in a dark cell, only interrupted to be tortured. He was able to barely escape with his life by using a piece of metal that he manage to chisel off of his bed and use it to short out the computer lock to his cell. Since then he's been on the run from that syndicate and has picked up various skills to help him stay alive, as well as an even deeper nervous streak.
Appearance: Small, thin, and weakly are three words that would describe Ghyslain perfectly. From the looks of his skin he rarely, if ever, goes out in the sun for more than a few minutes, and, in all honesty, he is fairly reminiscent of an understuffed skeleton, with his thin gangly limbs and the way his clothes hang loosely off of his extremely thin body, even his hair furthers this impression as it is a dirty blonde color which juts from his head in every direction, much like straw from under a scare-crow's hat. His face, however, could actually be considered attractive if it were on another body, with his stunning green eyes and clear boyish complexion.


No jedi...
Weapon Skills (6):
1 vibro blade
2 pistol
1 machine gun
1 ground fighter vehicle
1 space fighter vehicle.

Basic Skills (I get 35 points here):
5 comp/console.
5 robots.
3 ground vehicles.
2 space vehicles.
4 mechanics for vehicles.
3 medicine and non-force healing
3 stealth
3 stealing
4 awareness.
3 bullet dodging


(I altered his skills slightly... ditched fast talking. Want to make him more nervous around people... that's also why he's so young. Give him more social insecurity. Also: Slicer is SW for hacker.)

[Rhuhael]

Yeah you can't really compete with someone who knows where you're going to swing before you do.

[CelesJessa]

And I said some what bad... Which was supposed to mean a low B... Besides, your a sofmore (However you spell that), colleges mainly care about your Junior year (And more recently Senior)
Yeah, but keeping good grades in a teachers class were he will give you 0/50 if you only got 47 of the 50 done/right is kind of hard. (and I'm not exagerating.)

But onto Jedi stuff. Because I get confused easily
(sorry if I should know this stuff... I skimmed a little through the topic)
1.What would a vibro-blade be?
2. What's the difference between passive and non-passive? (it says "not passive" after force seeing, etc.)

(sorry I get easily confused. ^^;; )

[IHateMakingNames]

1. Vibro-blade is a sword (Best non light saber weapon)
2. Passive means it is always on, non passive means you have to do it (When you use Force Seeing, you drain your force to do so)

[Stover]

1. Its a sword that vibrates upon striking, creating a sawing action against whatever it hits. Just think of it as a sword that will cut you up good.
2. Passive means you don't need to work to use it. The effect is always on, whether you want it there or not. Non-passive means it must be turned on/cast.

(Late by mere seconds.)

[Rhuhael]

Edit: This is to Krylo

You'll want either a DH-17 Mod like I have or a Modified heavy blaster like Solo. I'd go with the DH-17 b/c it has a stun setting (The only reason I took it over solo's mother of a gun, in fact the only reason I took pistol.)

[Stover]

Which handgun is more akin to a .50 cal Magnum?

[Forever Zero]

Which handgun is more akin to a .50 cal Magnum?

Han's blaster is probably closer, his modified heavy blaster pistol would fit that role nicely...

[Rhuhael]

Solo's rapist pistol definitely!!!

That thing is like the double barreled shotgun pistol that El used in "Once Upon A Time In Mexico". All the power of a rifle in the space of a magnum.

[Stover]

Already took the Heavy Blaster! I don't have to edit!

Points go to Stover!

[Forever Zero]

Question, your only allowed to do one active force ability at a time right, so that you couldn't choke one guy, throw another off a cliff, and activate force drain and protect to make yourself an invincible force juggernaught...

[Rhuhael]

Although you should carry a flechete for anti-jedi and a DH-17 for areas with civilians.

Also if you want something REALLY powerful get a disruption pistol. Only holds about 5 shots but it breaks shit down at the molecular level. It blows through about.... anything.

[IHateMakingNames]

Force Drain is slow... It's a .5% drain a second (After draining and your cost). It's mainly to heal yourself using allies who are in good health.

But I would say about two at a time I guess.

[Forever Zero]

Alright, just checking. So when is this RP going to get started?

[Krylo]

I'm quite certain there are more types of blasters out there than we've seen in the movies and books, and the serial numbers don't seem important (and I can't remember dh this or blastek that... sorosuub this) ... but really I just want him to have something extremely small and weak. Ghyslain wouldn't be comfortable with any kind of real firepower. He only has one for self protection.

[Rhuhael]

That's what I was thinking. So if you were really demonic you could use Lightning and Drain at the same time and feed yourself as much as you needed and keep pumping that shit into your opponent. Or you could heal stuff while being invincible (my fav idea, no wounds from anything and healing what you do get. *Sigh* I am evil.)

Edit: Krylo, That'd be the DH-17 it's a decent firepower thing but nothing special. Either that or a sport pistol, but that's more of an aristocrat weapon.

[IHateMakingNames]

After Celes makes her bio I guess... Seems no one else is joining (If some are, they can join in any time since they can't be Jedi's), so either tonight or tomorrow...

But, I am doing homework (Sorta...), so if either you or krylo would like to write the begining it would start much sooner... (You have co-GM powers)


Edit - For your guy's double Force powers ideas, those will fail horrible. Drain is slow and gives very little back, your over use of lighting would quickly over power the drain. (Plus no one has drain I think)

Protect and Heal would drain you of Force very fast, and you would be weak and tired.

(Remember, Force is like magic, to much use of it leaves you tired, weak, and unable to use it for a while. It comes back naturally (Faster with meditation) though.

[Rhuhael]

If anyone needs to consult on weaponry I just recently became highly knowledgeable in this (spent an hour or two in barnes and knobles researching) so all questions like that direct to me on im so we don't have to clog up the threads anymore.

Edit- IHMN i have drain. that's why I came up with it. Also drain cows your opponent while you're using it right? sort of like lightning except non-damaging. So you could just sit back and drink it in assuming there was nobody else around?

[Forever Zero]

Okay. Any ideas for the direction the RP will take? I know overall we will be fighting the Dark Jedi, but don't know if you had any specific ideas.

Oh, and krylo, just to drag out a dead horse and beat it, a blaster bolt IS a laser beam, according to the Starwars.com Databank. It is...

"The basic blaster technology of intensifying a beam of light into a deadly bolt is scalable, and largely the same despite the differences in weapon types and sizes. The interior mechanisms of a tiny hold-out blaster, a blaster pistol, a large blaster rifle, and a turbolaser cannon are based on the same theories and principles. A squeeze of a trigger emits volatile blaster gas into a conversion chamber, where it is excited by energy from the weapon's power source. The agitated gas is then funneled through the actuating blaster module, where it is processed into an intense particle beam. A prismatic crystal focuses the beam, and passes it through a refinement chamber which "galvens" the beam into its final bolt."

Oh, and so that this has anyr relation to your post, a holdout blaster let's it be easy to hide but wiht low power.

[IHateMakingNames]

Oh no, they can move when draining. People can move while being hit by Lighting, Drain is nothing. They won't even feel it unless you've been doing it to them for 30 seconds or more.

Edit - Oh, and the first chapter is just all of us Jedi's on a random planet to find some Dark Jedi's who are suspected to be there, but we will end up needed help from the non Jedi's (Like some place will need to be hacked, so krylo comes in)

[Rhuhael]

"The basic blaster technology of intensifying a beam of light into a deadly bolt is scalable, and largely the same despite the differences in weapon types and sizes. The interior mechanisms of a tiny hold-out blaster, a blaster pistol, a large blaster rifle, and a turbolaser cannon are based on the same theories and principles. A squeeze of a trigger emits volatile blaster gas into a conversion chamber, where it is excited by energy from the weapon's power source. The agitated gas is then funneled through the actuating blaster module, where it is processed into an intense particle beam. A prismatic crystal focuses the beam, and passes it through a refinement chamber which "galvens" the beam into its final bolt."



Ok, look that makes no sense. A particle beam isn't a 'beam' it's subatomic molecules pushed at a incredibly high rate. I like krylo's explanation better.

It allows for more flexible play although a lase beam would be more practical. But also I love physics and I have to say that putting a partical beam through a crystal would acheive little more than blowing the crystal to smithereens.

Edit- IHMN so can we still use a lightsaber while draining?

[IHateMakingNames]

With one hand... You need at least one hand out to use drain (Red lighting comes from fingers) But if some other Jedi is swinging at you, you're probably going to have to give up on your draining to live.

The main idea (If your trying to drain an enemy) is to drain and run (But not to far, because Drain has a semi-short range)

[Stover]

subatomic molecules

?

[Krylo]

The agitated gas is then funneled through the actuating blaster module, where it is processed into an intense particle beam. A prismatic crystal focuses the beam, and passes it through a refinement chamber which "galvens" the beam into its final bolt.

I don't know... that doesn't sound like a laser to me. Sounds like a particle beam... and the force.net, which uses the books, movies, etc. to describe what a blaster bolt is or is not says this: "There is no sure answer in terms of real life science; so far we can only place constraints on the nature of the beam by making careful observations about the filmed behaviour. The shots create light which is emitted sideways, otherwise the bolts would not be seen. The visible bolts appear to travel at various velocities, which usually appear to be slower than the speed of light. However there is an invisible component of the beam which often propagates far ahead of the visible bolt. The invisible forerunner is probably an aspect of the fundamental beam itself, and the luminosity of the bolt is a side-effect. The forerunner beam is known to damage targets before the visible bolts arrive, and this component of the shot may actually propagate at lightspeed. "

Which makes it look like it has a laser component and a non-laser component... but the biggest thing against it being a laser is two things 1) How would you 'galvanize' light? and 2) Getting a small stream of light to hold enough heat energy that it would cause the kind of damage in the movies would require the barrel to melt, or be made out of some sort of ceramic... and if it was purely heat, a ceramic could easily stop blaster bolts.

Uh... yes... but let's just go with the "Who the hell knows what they are?" thing?

[IHateMakingNames]

Stop it with your 'beam' and 'laser' and 'subatomic particles' talk. Here is the basics of what you need to know.

"If a gun/blaster shoots a colorful thingy and it is not very large, a light saber can deflect it. The guns themselves are super technology that needs not to explanation, and those who question it are killed."

[Rhuhael]

subatomic particles is what I meant to say. It's a broken stream of neutrons and protons. The electrons are knocked off.
Basically a railgun on the scale of a toothpick.

[Stover]

...a railgun uses magnetic acceleration...

[Rhuhael]

And exactly how did you think they seperated the electrons from the protons? It's a combination magnetic acceleration and an intense flow of energy.

[IHateMakingNames]

One more word of this and your characters will be missing limbs.

[Krylo]

"If a gun/blaster shoots a colorful thingy and it is not very large, a light saber can deflect it. The guns themselves are super technology that needs not to explanation, and those who question it are killed."

I like that. I say we obey.

Edit: I want my limbs!

[Rhuhael]

Fine. It's all just metaphysics anyway and completely rules out the use of antimatter or any such material which really makes this an inane conversation anyway. Antimatter will have replaced any power source that we have today

And no I'm not crazy they have already produced 50 nanograms of anti-matter in a lab in ... Switzerland I believe it was.

[Forever Zero]

Dangit, I got pulled away by watching Law & Order, and I can't discuss it anymore...

Well, I agree that it wasn't a great explenation, and that it was flawed, but it was the official explenation. I just thought plasma seems odd since you would need to superheat gas to a gas/liquid state as hot as many suns in an object that can fit in your hand, so I wondered about how that could work and I stumbled on that, so I decided to bring it up.

And no I'm not crazy they have already produced 50 nanograms of anti-matter in a lab in ... Switzerland I believe it was.

They already did that?

*Notices glares from IHMN*

This is me shutting up...

[Rhuhael]

You need to get AIM so we can discuss this further without being eviscerated.

[IHateMakingNames]

Here is a suggestion. Go make an Anti-Matter thread in the discussion forum.

And then go make a Star Wars Blasters and Guns thread too.

[Rhuhael]

Will do

[IHateMakingNames]

Now if you all want, you can go argue about Star Wars guns in the Discussion Forum...

[CelesJessa]

*returns from pilfering my brother's star wars collection (at least the stuff he left behind from college). He even has an 'english to hutt' phrase book*

Name: Laine Tinack
Age: 21
Sex: Female
Race: Dathomiri
Weapons: One lightsaber, golden in color.
Bio: Laine grew up a little more moral than most of the other Dathomiri Dark Jedi. After years of training against her will, she killed her dark jedi master and hijacked a ship, barely escaping to the Jedi Order's planets and then being taken in to be a light jedi...
Jedi Powers
Force Sense: 3
Force Control: 4
Force Speed: 2
Force Strength: 1
Force Jump: 2
Mind Control: 4
Force Heal: 4
Force Choke: 4
Force Drain: 2
Force Lightning: 2

Weapons
Lightsabers: 5
Laser Deflect: 5
Vibro-Blade: 2

Skills
Stealth: 3
Stealing: 1
Awareness: 4
Bullet Dodging: 4

---

I hope this character is alright. It took me awhile to finally decide on everything.

[IHateMakingNames]

So, you're saying that she was a Dark Jedi, but got bored and decided to be a Jedi of the Order, just like that?

[CelesJessa]

So, you're saying that she was a Dark Jedi, but got bored and decided to be a Jedi of the Order, just like that?

Ummm..... I guess that doesn't really work.
I wasn't really sure what to do for her bio, any suggestions of what might work better?

[Krylo]

You could mention something about being particularily moral... being put under a dark jedi in the training facility, and after awhile of training against your will, killing your dark jedi master and hijacking a ship, barely escaping to the Jedi Order's planets and then being taken in to be a light jedi...

[Rhuhael]

Celes, you can just make it something about her morals and "an awakening to justice." etc. etc. you know the whole redeemed character speil. It's odd though. My gut is doing the opposite sorta :p

[IHateMakingNames]

What is a Defel, Chiss, and Dathomiri? Appearance would be nice as well...

(We only have 4 aliens... Any almost human races that I could switch to?)

[Rhuhael]

Dathomiri, human, black, slightly shorter stature, fairer

Chiss, human, red sparkly eyes, blue skin

Defel, Shorter hairy thing that doesn't reflect light. Basically a moving shadow with fur that's about 5' tall.

[IHateMakingNames]

Now by black, do you mean our black people (Who are really brown), or literally black?

And what was Darth Mauls race?

[Krylo]

Dathomiri are humans from dathomir... I typed up a nice paragraph a few pages back on how they're slightly different from where they come from, and the RP restrictions/advantages they would have. Edit: I think Rhuhael was thinking of Lorrdians when he said black... they don't have a specific race. Dathomir was a penal colony, that's why there are people there at all.

Defel are... hard to describe. They have a bad PR as wraiths and assassins. And as for appearances... they don't. Under normal light all you can see is a shadow with red glowing eyes, have to look at them under infrared to see what they actually look like. Which is a furry animal thingie.

And Chiss are like humans only smarter and faster... and they have blue skin with red eyes. Their race is very proud, blah blah blah... basically, you'd have to be dishonored to be in the main areas of the galaxy where most of this stuff is probably going to be going down, as that only dishonored chiss leave the outer-rim. That doesn't mean that they're dishonorable though, just means that they've been expelled for something or another.


Edit: Zabrak = Darth Maul. I don't know much else about them, though.

[CelesJessa]

I think Krylo explained them somewhere around the 5th page.

I think I'll go with Krylo's idea. But would bounty hunters be after her then?

[Rhuhael]

Darth Maul was a Zabrak. I'm talking Brown not negro and here are some other races to consider

Hapan-Weaker, faster, more attractive humans
Lorrdian-Black, stronger, slower humans (high awareness)
Dathomiri-already said

Zabrak is pretty close too

[Forever Zero]

There is a lot behind those that weren't explained, but for basic appearences, that works.

I belive this is a Dathomiri Nightsister (A dark side woman from Dathomir)

http://www.rpgplanet.com/starwars/articles/swi/bio19.jpg

And to represent the chiss, everyone's favorite elite Grand Admiral, Thrawn.

http://digilander.libero.it/guerrestellari.exp/thrawn.gif

And last but not least, this is a Defel.

http://www.shatteredequinox.com/images/defel.jpg

EDIT: Note, my comments where on the basic description, not on krylo's recap of their social aspects.

[Krylo]

I think Krylo explained them somewhere around the 5th page.

I think I'll go with Krylo's idea. But would bounty hunters be after her then?Unless she somehow faked her own death, or it's been long enough and the jedi order has protecter her well enough that they aren't...

[lazy man]

hehehe, the Defel looks like a gremlin

[IHateMakingNames]

That's a women in the first picture?

And I'm switching to a Zabrak...

Also, who wanted to be on the Dark Jedi side? Just curious.

[Krylo]

That's a women in the first picture? That is to woman what emperor palpatine is to man. In other words, warped by the dark side.


Also... I kinda wanted a dark side jedi... just because having maxed mind control and no morals would be useful to no end.

[Forever Zero]

Yes, it's a woman, the Nightsisters were... not pretty to say the least. When they used their dark side powers, horrible black and blue splotches would appear under their skin, giving them a diseased and constantly bruised sort of look. Basically, Dathomir Force use effected appearance when it was used by the Nightsisters, because of how they tapped into the force I believe (Haven't read the book in a while).

I think I would rather go with Light Jedi on this one, altough playing a Dark Jedi could be fun too.

EDIT: krylo gives a much more concise answer that means the same thing...

[CelesJessa]

I belive this is a Dathomiri Nightsister (A dark side woman from Dathomir)
Yikes. She's kinda scary, isn't she? O_o erm. My character isn't going to completely look exactly like that. Since she's kind of a rebelious one.

[Rhuhael]

That's kinda like my guy. He's a jedi but he moved to sort of an "outpatient status" so he wouldn't have to deal with the stupid moral code. My favorite thing that I've come up with so far it throwing their own lightsaber at them. Now THAT'S entertaining!

[Krylo]

Well, like FZ said... that's just the night sisters, and because of the way they tap into the force. The dark side warps and kills the body... doesn't anyone else remember yoda rambling on about how the dark side was killing the emperor even as it was the only thing sustaining his fragile life? Yah. So if you're a light sider, you wouldn't look much different than your average female.

[IHateMakingNames]

You can't Mind Control a Jedi, unless they were a Padawan or something...

And Rhuhael, you have to listen to the moral code. If you want to break it, your not a Jedi of the Order anymore. The worst you can do is bend the rules a little.

[Rhuhael]

I'm a defel so nobody can tell what I look like! :p

And that wasn't using mind control. It was using force control. by taking ahold of their lightsaber just as you parried or they drew it back you could behead them.

[Krylo]

You can't Mind Control a Jedi, unless they were a Padawan or something...

Well, yah... But it'd be way too much fun against any non-jedi NPCs. "I think you want to shoot your best friend and then yourself." Muahaha. Maxed choke would be fun too... kill people over tele-broadcasts...

[lazy man]

gremlin*snicker*, sorry, couldn't help that one

[IHateMakingNames]

Force Seeing level 3 and up can see a Defel. Also, since you are a Jedi, any Jedi with any level of Force Sense can tell that you are in the room.

Edit - They could just turn off the screen so they can't be choked krylo.

[Rhuhael]

I know that they can tell I'm in the room and I'm not going to backstab them. A shadow in broad daylight is a bit out of place wouldn't you say?

That's not the point. The point is that cosmetically if I choose to be evil it doesn't matter b/c almost nobody can see me.

[Krylo]

Shush you. You're ruining my evil fun. Besides, I know that... but it was still cool when Darth Vader did it to that admiral. Didn't actually kill him though, if memory serves.

[IHateMakingNames]

If we didn't have all of our bios done, I would want to switch us to Dark Jedi's...

[Forever Zero]

Well, yah... But it'd be way too much fun against any non-jedi NPCs. "I think you want to shoot your best friend and then yourself." Muahaha. Maxed choke would be fun too... kill people over tele-broadcasts...

Man, choke is my favorite force power. Just the thought of saying, "You have failed me for the last time," is enough to convince me to go to the Dark Side. If you are thinking of making Dark Side characters, I'd join.

Also, it's sort of hard to manipulate machinery when your choking to death...

[Stover]

I personally prefer something like mass force-push. Its just cool because you can yell something like "I'M RICK JAMES, BITCH!" and then everyone flies away from you.

[Biran]

I'd join as a Dark Side character, too. Hee hee! :D Dark Side characters are awesome! The only thing I'd have to say against it is that then some of us would be going against each other, and there would probably be some god-modding.

[Rhuhael]

Yeah that could be annoying. I wanted to be a jedi that left but wasn't 'evil' per-se just bereft of the code. I wanna be able to throw peoples thermal detonators at themselves dammit!!!

[IHateMakingNames]

Maybe I should switch us to all be evil... Seems like at least half of us want it (Including myself), and then we could abuse our powers.

Also, with a new point system, might as well go with a new kind of hero...

And lastly, if we do switch to Dark Jedi, our appearances wouldn't be twisted... I don't want to be some grey, scaley thing.

[CelesJessa]

Maybe I should switch us to all be evil... Seems like at least half of us want it (Including myself), and then we could abuse our powers.

Also, with a new point system, might as well go with a new kind of hero...


Does that mean we'll have to totally re-do our people, or would we just need to change the bio so that we're evil? (dark side sounds fun. ^_^ )

[Forever Zero]

Well... I don't think it would be a horrible idea if we went half Light and half Dark in the case of personal preference, but I think I would end up going Dark, because that MFer that is PC KoToR never worked on my PC, and I've been urging to be a dark jedi for a while now...

[Rhuhael]

Then I can leave the order!??

YES!!!!! *Does a dance*

[IHateMakingNames]

We have 6 Jedi's and 3 Non Jedi's... I'm thinking about randomly choosing one person to become a non Jedi... (This is not a choice, just to make all Jedi's start worrying)

[Rhuhael]

*Is now sweating intensely*

What if we got more non-jedi's? Would this help your distposition?

[IHateMakingNames]

No one new is going to sign up, so a Jedi would have to switch anyway...

And people might want to thank you for this Rhuhael, since your constant talk of abusing force powers annoyed me. Sure we're Dark Jedi's, but even without a Code your powers are only so good.

[Rhuhael]

This is true. Everything has a limit. And if I kill them then I can't recharge with drain. A vexing problem.

I guess I shoulda been a little less enthusiastic about being evil. I just don't get the opportunity that often. It's fun occasionally.

Look if you're gonna alter anyone's game plan just take out my guy. He'll tack on some more guns and get his ass kicked. I don't want anyone else to have to give up their carefully calculated stuff b/c I'm a blabbermouth.

[IHateMakingNames]

You keep thinking Drain is good for a fight... Again, it is worthless in battle because it is very slow. (Unless of course you can sit back, not get attacked, and not accidently start draining your allies). Plus, it only works on Jedis.

Edit - I think I need to clear some things up.

Heal - Not instant. The bigger the wound, the longer it takes.

Drain - Slow, very slow.

Mind Control - One target at a time, must do hand thing and say what you want them to do.

Anything else people may have a question about?

[Rhuhael]

I'm now thinking more of a "once they're almost dead" thing with that. You know chop off an arm and a leg then fill yourself back up. But I can see why it's use is limited. I considered that carefully. But it is vexing.

You can just throw non-jedi's at me for a long time and watch me die.

Edit- Mind Control I was clear on.

[Forever Zero]

No questions, although if you have concretly decided to change to Dark Side Jedi, I'll make some modifications to my character and resubmit him. I also assume that we would no longer have access to Light Side powers if we went fully Dark.

[IHateMakingNames]

No, you can have light side powers. We're light side with dark powers, and it goes the other way around.

[Krylo]

If you decide to switch around light and dark side I wanna either use my gunslinger template or make a dark jedi... On the basis that I don't think a bunch of dark jedi are going to treat a nervous hacker very well...

[IHateMakingNames]

But you are the hacker. You could hack into anything moral free (I would assume when we are all the 'good' side you would have some morals about what you hack) and do as you please.

But if you do go Dark Jedi, then the Jedi are losing points for force. As it is now we are all the same.

Edit - So if we go Dark Jedi, I'm just going to lower the Jedi points and make sure everyone is some what different. And I would call Lighting and Mind Control mind you.

[Forever Zero]

If we go Dark Side (And you don't modify force points...) This will be my new force list.

Force Powers: (30 points, all used)
Sense - 2
Control - 5
Speed - 5
Force Immunity - 5
Seeing - 4
Jump - 4
Choke - 5

Weapons: (Modified 14 points, 2 from skills, all used)
Lightsaber: 5 (Specialty in Dual Lightsaber fighting and Single Lightsaber

fighting)
Laser Deflect: 5
Space Vehicles: 4

Skills: (12-8=4 which become 2 bonus points for weapons)
Awareness: 2
Stealth: 2
Space Vehicles: 4

If he is Dark, he doesn't care about all those wussy other powers. He wants pure, damaging power, instantly, so while he doesn't have as many skills, the ones he has are all mostly maxed out.

[Krylo]

Nah, he wouldn't have morals about what he hacks either way. Just fear of being caught. Ghyslain is... odd, and basically neutral. He doesn't see hacking as immoral, but rather as a game. He "just likes computers." But... I really don't see dark siders as treating him too well.

He's timid... easily goaded and manipulated... weak physically and emotionally. In a dark side party I see him as being lightninged a lot... like everytime he whines about having to do something... or complains about how much he hates fighting, etc.

I suppose I could just alter him a bit... toss in some fast talking and make him arrogant, though.

[CelesJessa]

Do we need to worry about re-writing the bio? They don't need much of an excuse to be evil, since that's the more fun side.

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

[Rhuhael]

Yes! Spaceballs is the best!

[IHateMakingNames]

It seems like we are switching to the Dark Side. Though with a sudden change, I am going to force upon more unique characters (As is many less points for Force), and force the Jedi's to choose specific forces (Again I would call Mind Control and Force Control). Do you want that or stay as good? (As good we are done and ready, and even though I don't like how alike the force powers are, I'm to lazy to redo it without another reason)

[Forever Zero]

Well if we go Evil, I call Force Choke right now!

Edit: Well, there are things to keep in mind. If we go evil, we have the advantages of "Wherever You Go, There They Are", "The Ominous Ring of Land" (Our main base needs to be a ring shaped space station...), "Evil will always triumph, because Good is dumb!", and "Dark Helmet's Corollary".

However, we have the disadvantages of "Thank You For Pressing The Self-Destruct Button", "Law of Mooks", and "The Best-Laid Schemes".

It's all in the tradeoff, and if you don't know what I'm talking about, you obviously haven't seen the list of Console RPG cliches, and if you haven't seen that, shame on you.

[Rhuhael]

I think that simply how we use the powers will define that. and I think that we should stay good. I'm dubious either way. So w/e

If we're evil I call Force Control.

[IHateMakingNames]

But most people have 5 points in atleast four things, so they obviously are going to use that.

[Forever Zero]

I don't see why if we go evil we need to choose specific force powers. I say just transfer the system we have now and use that. Everyone will most likely change some things around since we would be evil now, and it'll all work itself out.

Actually, if we go evil, I imagine we would be less low level grunts, and more along the lines of evil generals or officers, so I think we would be more powerful if we went evil.

[Rhuhael]

He's trying to prevent us from being evil. He wants us to stop all this evil talk.

[CelesJessa]

I really don't want to re-do my force powers (I just finished doing them the first time less than 20 hours ago!)

But if we're calling certain powers, I want Mind Control.

Even if we have certain powers that we specialize in, can we put a few points into ones other people have? (I wanna use a little more than just Mind Control, especially things like Force Control.)


Evil or Good, I'm alright with both. I'm even more for either one if I don't have to re-do my character bio...

[Rhuhael]

I'm with Celes. I don't really want to re-do this all especially seeing that my guy doesn't really change either way except wether or not he stops in at the jedi order occasionally to say hi.

[Forever Zero]

I'm with Celes. I don't really want to re-do this all especially seeing that my guy doesn't really change either way except wether or not he stops in at the jedi order occasionally to say hi.

Yeah, I think your character is partially why IHMN is so annoyed, because you are basically doing the total opposite of anything intelligent in the SW universe. If you were really so independant from the Academy, or were a bounty hunter with no morals, you would be a Dark Jedi, or at least exiled from the temple, and when the temple sent us on a mission, they would want nothing to do with you. In fact, the temple would most likely order bounty hunters to hunt you down...

[IHateMakingNames]

Thing is, if we are all evil, I can assure you it will be Mind Control abusing everywhere. As well as Choking everyone that is not Mind Controled, and those who are not mind controled or choked will have large things thrown at them.

[Rhuhael]

Also I can garuntee you I'd be using a disruptor cannon and several of the more insidious explosive devices.

You really don't want that.

[IHateMakingNames]

I wouldn't let you do that. Which is my point. Sure we would be evil, but that doesn't mean you get to god mod. It just means instead of saving the world, you want to enslave it. With us being good, you're restricted by the Order so you can't abuse your powers outside of battle. As evil, you do as you please, which would lead to a mind control/lighting/choking/large objects thrown at you (Note that most Jedi's now can do at least two of those) all the time (In and out of battles)

[Rhuhael]

He's right it would be complete chaos and if you start thinking about more insidious ways to not only use your own stuff but other peoples it gets scary. We really should stay good. My guy isn't bereft I've decided just nonchalant morally. Otherwise with heavy weaponry (shudder).

[Forever Zero]

Alright, so after pages of argument, were staying light side, and nothing is really changing. Now, when is this going to start?

[IHateMakingNames]

When I get around to writing the first post (Or you can Forever...) Basic idea of post is we are on a random planet trying to find out what some Dark Jedi are doing, they have big base, we need a hacker (Who knows some gun people...)

[Forever Zero]

Well, the soonest I can have something up is tomarrow, but I'll work on it then. I have a huge project I need to finish tonight though.

[Biran]

It's a shame that this has been left so long, hopefully this revives it.

[Forever Zero]

Wow, I forgot about it. Um, I'll try to get SOMETHING up tonight.

[Krylo]

If it's not up by 1 am, I'll do it myself. Just tell me any points IHMN left out of his earlier post on what's going down.

[IHateMakingNames]

See, this is why I let you guys in charge as well... Normally I am just lazy, but now I am lazy with a new computer and recieving games every now and then that I ordered...

[Forever Zero]

I put something up.