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Alucard_VII
02-22-2004, 12:40 PM
Do you think turning anime into a real live performed movie with hollywood stars is a good idea.
synkr0nized
02-22-2004, 12:55 PM
Way to have opinion laced in the options of your poll. That's not a biased skew or anything.
I can't say I'm a fan of live-action versions of movies, series, and shorts that I've come to love in animated form. I also can't say I like this poll, though.
darth vader wannabe
02-22-2004, 05:09 PM
There's only one thing I have to say about the idea of Live-Action Anime: The Dragonball Z Live Action movie (sorry, I don't know the official title). From what I've heard it's better than Metropolis.
Kenryoku_Maxis
02-22-2004, 05:18 PM
No. For more reasons than I can put up.
But two I will.
1) American companies (including multiple Hollywood renouned companies) are already invading the Anime market and not only licencing and selling them, but actually PRODUCING them.
2) Almost everyone who works in the animation buisness knows that doing an animated film or series is totally different than a live action one. So I'm not up for one trying to combine (or overtake as it appears with some hollywood companies) one of the other markets.
That's the shorthand of it. There's so much more to it.
Lost in Time
02-22-2004, 05:49 PM
Anime has a special touch that if it was turned into a real movie, it would lose that 'special touch'. So no, keep anime, anime.
Alucard_VII
02-22-2004, 05:53 PM
No. For more reasons than I can put up.
But two I will.
1) American companies (including multiple Hollywood renouned companies) are already invading the Anime market and not only licencing and selling them, but actually PRODUCING them.
2) Almost everyone who works in the animation buisness knows that doing an animated film or series is totally different than a live action one. So I'm not up for one trying to combine (or overtake as it appears with some hollywood companies) one of the other markets.
That's the shorthand of it. There's so much more to it.
r u going to reply to every thing i type????? oh and i agree with ur 2 points but u have to bee a bit more disciptive on ur parts and plus most of these things have take place long ago.....
GatoFiero
02-22-2004, 09:32 PM
There's only one thing I have to say about the idea of Live-Action Anime: The Dragonball Z Live Action movie (sorry, I don't know the official title). From what I've heard it's better than Metropolis.
Actually there is a live action movie based off the Dragon Ball anime. It's one of the funniest movies i have ever seen. Why? Because it's done so crappy its funny. I suspect that they had less budget than Monty Python when he did the Holy Grail movie. Hell, finding out what Grandpa Gohan's name is in the movie is almost worth it...or watching the turtle dance, gotta love the turtle dance. But really, the movie sucks really bad, it's just it sucks so bad it's funny....sort of like Kung-pow.
synkr0nized
02-22-2004, 10:26 PM
Actually, you want to see a "live action anime" done well?
Check out Shaolin Soccer. It's a blast. And done well.
Though it's not anime.. just watch it and you'll see what I mean.
Bob The Mercenary
02-22-2004, 11:25 PM
I've been keeping tabs on the progress of the DBZ live-action movie. I kind of like everyone casted, especially Vegeta, but they could've found a better actor for Piccolo. Four four-hour-long movies?! I predict they will end up like the Pokemon movies: everyone will be interested in the first one and they will never go see another one.
So far I've only heard rumors of an Evangelion movie, but it's only hearsay. But what I've heard scares me.
-Hillary Duff as Asuka
-That kid from Harry Potter as Shinji
*shutter*
Priest4hire
02-23-2004, 12:48 AM
Is any of that information regarding the DBZ movie confirmed? I thought it was all still rumor. Everything I can find suggests that there is no confirmed information regarding the film.
Hmm, so Daniel Radcliffe as Shinji, eh? Doesn't seem too bad a pick as he's certainly a good actor, has the right build, and is of the right age. But that also feels like the kind of casting fan sites tend to do. The real obvious pick, being a star and all. Kind of like the rumor that Robin Williams was going to be Doc Oc.
At any rate I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with making a film out of an anime. No more so than from a book or a play or a Western animation. It's just that one has to realize that it a live action movie is so very different than an animation. The live action move can not be the anime. It must instead be a good live action movie. Still, there are concepts in anime that could be reworked into a good live action movie. As long as one doesn't expect them to be the same.
PS. I wanted to add that the process of making a good live action movie out of an animated movie is not easy. There are so many ways it can go wrong. Much like making a live action movie from a comic or book. Though in the case of animation probably even more so, especially since there's not really as much to gain by doing the conversion. That is, a live action movie doesn't really bring all that much new to the table as opposed to the animation.
Still, it can work. I'd like to see a live action version of the Record of Lodoss War OAV. At least then we'd get more than the occasional scene that's fully animated.
Daer-San
02-23-2004, 04:18 AM
NO! It would be horrible if americans messed anime doing movies from them!
NEVER!
Alucard_VII
02-23-2004, 09:08 PM
I've been keeping tabs on the progress of the DBZ live-action movie. I kind of like everyone casted, especially Vegeta, but they could've found a better actor for Piccolo. Four four-hour-long movies?! I predict they will end up like the Pokemon movies: everyone will be interested in the first one and they will never go see another one.
So far I've only heard rumors of an Evangelion movie, but it's only hearsay. But what I've heard scares me.
-Hillary Duff as Asuka
-That kid from Harry Potter as Shinji
*shutter*
well the thruth has been told. hillary duff as asuka and mr. potter as shinji. the movie will start production in late autume......
(sigh) wat is the world coming to?
AerodynamicHair
02-23-2004, 09:34 PM
I'm in favor of anime based movie properties simply because it creates good press. Sure, the movie will probably suck, but so do movies based on comic books, but they keep the comic book companies alive.
Look, I know anime isn't really in the same sad predicament as the comic book industry, but look at all the exposure lately in anime. The popularity of children's anime in america has shown an incredible increase in releases of all types of anime in the US (and maybe canada, UK, where ever you are.). We all know children's anime sucks, because its for children, but the exposure itself helps us. Just think if an anime based blockbuster came out? We'd have it made!
Also, I'd like to site that many media crossovers happen all the time, such as manga to anime, anime to manga, show to OVA, and so on. All that matters in these are that the characters are well represented, and that the spark the original authors put in is still there. Now, maybe hollywood won't butcher it.
Globalization baby, ya can't avoid it.
Kenryoku_Maxis
02-24-2004, 01:09 AM
We all know children's anime sucks, because its for children, but the exposure itself helps us.
In Japan, where the true Anime is made, roughly 95% of Anime is aimed at people under the age of 18. Where you draw the line for 'child' is up to you, but in the legal term for both Japan and America, under 18 is Child. And not taking this into account, I can only assume that you meant child anime as Anime you deem is only viewable by children, watched primarily by people younger than teenagers or something that doesn't have guns or fighting in it. On all three counts, I say not only do I watch Anime that fit those discriptions, but some of my favorites are in that classification (Pita Ten, Princess Tutu) and shows you'd probably deem for children (CardCaptor Sakura). So, I hope I have proven to you that, with just once sentance, I can show that not only do I not aknowledge that all anime for 'children' sucks, but that you might not even know what you're classifying and really have little right to classify anything as being something everyone thinks sucks.
Sorry for off topic, but I had to say my say.
AerodynamicHair
02-24-2004, 06:58 PM
Right... sorry. My bad. Your right, most of anime is aimed at children, and I've probably watched some of that, so disregard certain parts of my previous post about that, though you will most likely find more idiotically wrong comments. Alright, I'm embarassed now.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that commercilization is good because it increases demand, so a movie based on an anime, no matter how bad it would be, would help out the anime community. I don't think that commercializism would affect the artists and their products, i.e. start to mainstream anime, because animes are basically foriegn films anyway that aren't completely dependant on the american market.
Oh yeah, sorry again.
Kenryoku_Maxis
02-24-2004, 09:13 PM
Its fine.
And, I really don't want to keep killing your ideas, but while most times I would agree exposure and comercialization is good, it can be bad. Making bad movies based on Anime and even bringing over Anime itself in bad forms and showing them in theaters/selling them on VHS or DVD can do more harm than good. Where you deem the bad and good instances of released anime are up to you. I would give examples such as the horrible release of the Cowboy Bebop Movie and how I come across so many people who dislike the movie, while they praise the show as one of the best Anime ever made. That's gotta mean either the movie is bad....or it was introduced to them bad. I believe it was the latter, both because I think it is an amazing movie, because I believe it was the most well done part of the entire series and because most people were beforehand given a false impression of it. Its written right on the DVD: "They're Here To Save The Planet. But Not For Free" -Bandai included excerpt above the title on DVD Cover
I have had experience getting people interested in anime for years now, but there's been things I've shown a certain type of person that turns them off to Anime and those exact movies shown in exactly the same way grabbed other people instantly to liking anime. What I'm trying to say is...the idea that constant and large amounts of exposure will help the Anime market, even in a live action movie form is good, somewhat. The other portion of it would need to be how it is directed to the american audiance, with emphasis of marketing to multiple groups of people and for long term goals, neither of which are being done well if at all.
Yes, its my american anime distributor speech again. And how they're going to, in the long run, make Anime become less popular and economically profitable...because of their short run goals of just selling everything to get money quick out of it and targeting only a select group of people.
Bob The Mercenary
02-24-2004, 09:33 PM
Alucard, can you possibly link to the place where you found this info about the Eva movie?
Kikyo
02-29-2004, 04:32 AM
Anime has a special touch that if it was turned into a real movie, it would lose that 'special touch'. So no, keep anime, anime.
Yah...i'm agree..! It will be sad if it lost that "special touch"..! So..NOOOO!!!
Keep ANIMe...! :)
Tenjin Matsukaru
02-29-2004, 06:34 AM
Anime in itself is an artform. Putting it into a real portreying sorta ruins it because certain things (overstatement of facial expressions ect.) are only funny if done in an anime style.
Sever"n"steal
03-01-2004, 04:19 PM
If anime was a movie it would SUCK
Qaenyin The Angelblade
03-02-2004, 07:31 PM
Depends in my opinion. After all, the first Matrix movie was essentially anime in live action form, and it kicked ass.
In my personal opinion it depends on WHICH anime you are talking about, and it also depends on the competence of the person/people making it. An Eva live action might actually do decently, depending on how it's done. The cast certainly fits the roles as far as appearance, and their acting talents are good, though I question whether hilary will be good at playing someone with such a *cough* nagging, annoying, self centered, vain persona as asuka does.
As far as Daniel playing Shinji, I would say it is likely he would do well. It really is not THAT different from the potter role to some degree, although more like how potter is while hes at home during the summer. I think he could do a good job though.
I am rather worried about if someone could play Rei worth crap though. They would have to act emotionless, mechanical, and logical, which is something it is VERY hard to act like and be convincing. I have only once or twice ever seen a live action movie with such a character portrayed well. We are talking totally cold and metallic, not Star Trek Data's inquisitive and curious personality.
I could see some other Animes possibly be live action. .Hack//SIGN could be done live. So could Outlaw Star, MAYBE, though not necessarily(heck, probably not). Eva is a good choice. DBZ MAYBE could be done better, but it's such a stereotype that it would have to be a genius director in order to not have it become a total joke like the current existing one. Escaflowne could probably be a good movie. Rurouni Kenshin probably could be done well, maybe, as well as Perhaps Gundam Wing or such.
Mainly, action-containing movies could be done, but totally social realistic ones would just make it boring(.hack is the closest they could go to social centered anime and have it be doable without becoming stupid).
Immortal Macleod
03-02-2004, 09:09 PM
I would love to see an anime based movie cause i dont want my series to end but unfourtunately all anime based movies pretty much suck. So no. I would enjoy seeing it if these movies were, oh I dont know, good.
oh and uh fox bought the rights to a dbz movie a couple of years ago along with ninja scroll and there was already a crappy dragon ball movie. And there was a gundam movie it was perhaps a decent B movie.
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