Inverse Law of Ninja explained.

[Hatake Kakashi]

So I've been searching and searching for a way to ultimately prove or disprove the theory of the ILoN. For a while, I figured it was just something made up for convenience of having fodder in the TMNT movies and such.

Then, I finally came across undeniable proof (http://www.heavy.com/channel/2294) and could no longer ignore it. So I had to share it with those of you who've never seen such things before.

Your thoughts?

[ArlanKels]

TMNT has it.

And to an extent Naruto also has the Inverse Law. I know we shouldn't look to Naruto for worthwhile examples, but in the end it does indeed have the ILoN present within it.

I can't remember what else...

[Intern Nin]

Batman Begins has it too. Rurouni Kenshin has it, although this was displayed during the fight between the Oniwabanshu and a guy with a gattling gun.
Edit: Oh, and Jackie Chan movies of course.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Don't forget Kill Bill.

[Hatake Kakashi]

Don't forget Kill Bill.

Actually.. I'd LOVE to forget Kill Bill. That movie sucked things even hardcore porn movie stars wouldn't touch.

It, AND it's sequel.

Anyone else have examples? Preferably with amusing clips?

[Lord of Joshelplex]

What is this Law of the Ninja?

[Rygar]

The more ninjas you're fighting at a time, the easier they are to defeat.

[Intern Nin]

It goes more like one lone, brash warrior will always defeat a large horde of ninjas. Something to do with compounded awesomeness, ninja minds burping simultaneously causing them to line up to be slaughtered, and action movie physics.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Actually.. I'd LOVE to forget Kill Bill. That movie sucked things even hardcore porn movie stars wouldn't touch.

It, AND it's sequel.

Anyone else have examples? Preferably with amusing clips?


But it contains a PERFECT example of the Inverse Ninja Law, in the restaurant fight. Just how many ninjas DID she kill in that one sequence?

[Demetrius]

Venture Brothers: Brock Sampson's dream inside the Happy Maker (you know the one powered by the soul of an orphan), actually Brock Sampson VS anything...

[Redneck Scientist]

Actually.. I'd LOVE to forget Kill Bill. That movie sucked things even hardcore porn movie stars wouldn't touch.

You are a horrible, horrible person, and you are going to the lowest level of hell.

The Law goes like this:
The more ninja there are, the easier they are too defeat.

In other words: Armies of Ninja will fall to a single opponent, and one lone ninja will defeat armies of opponents.

[ArlanKels]

The Inverse Law of Ninja is this:
As the amount of ninjas on one side in an area increases the abilities and overall efficiency of each ninja decreases.


This is caused by numerous television shows, books, movies and so on and so forth wherein a solitary ninja can defeat hundreds of attacking ninjas.

[Arlia Janet]

There was a good SNL skit where it showed a bunch of ninjas in a Ninja Club talking about their last fight after they had been defeated by one man. It was one of the funnier skits I have seen, and it covers just about every cliche out there. I think John Goodman was the host.

I tried to find it, but was unlucky. If anyone knows what I am talking about and can find a clip, I'll be nice to you.

[Ex. 68471]

I believe this might be able to explain it. This was figured out by me, hence, no link.

I think that maybe, as more ninjas show up, each one that is already there thinks that he will be able to slack off a bit more, cause the new guy will pick up the slack.

What they fail to realize, though, is the other lone ninja will not fight all of them all at once. He will cut them all down, one by one. Because of this, they aren't going all-out, and hence, get their spleens handed to them on a platter.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Nah the reason is that ninja hide in photons of ambient radiation. They leap from photon to photon, sneaking up on thier target. But there are only so many photons around and thus as more ninja show up thier ability to harness photons decreases.
If I can find it I have an old graph relating total power of ninja squad vs number of ninja as well as a completely scientific mathematical relationship. The maxmimum power of ninja squad maxed out at 3 ninja though the optimum number of ninja was 4 as then the enemy gets a bit complacent but as soon as one ninja is killed the squad optimises and goes crazy.

[PyrosNine]

It's actually because each ninja is embedded with the ability to flip out from anywhere and kill someone, even fellow ninjas, so in order for them to form a cohesive group they have to be trained not to kill their teammates. And anytime Ninjas are trained not to ninja kill something there is a deep contradiction within their very beings.

So normally, when fighting a ninja, his mind is saying 'I'm going to run along the wall, hurl ninja stars at my opponents feet, and when his feet are stuck to the ground, I shall chop his head off. Alternatively, should his feet avoid getting stuck, I shall leap up to the ceiling and from there kick down to cut him in half with my falling dragon blade technique."

But when there are other Ninjas present......

"I'm going to run along the-wait, Soryu's doing that, well, I suppose I can still hurl the stars, wait, Ryin's hurling stars, and if I aided him we both might kill Amasu who is trying to sneak attack him from behind...oh, what the hell. I shall wait until the rest have finished attacking, and wait for an opening. Surely he shall not-SPLISH!"

This is why, true Ninja leaders send at most 3 or 4 ninjas in a team to attack anyone, each with wildly different abilities, and can orchestrate team attacks, as well as fight okay one on one with the enemy.

The bigger law against ninjas, is the "Man against the wall weakness" , which is a great mystery in which a ninja or a group of ninjas are assigned to kill someone, but the person they are to kill is incredibly desperate and has the odds stacked against him. Despite having skills and powers that their target cannot even fathom, he will somehow elude their attacks and kill them. In essence, the greater the odds against their enemy (dramatic or otherwise) the greater the odds that he will defeat them.

Examples: Gordon Freeman. A science nerd with a radiation shielded suit and alot of weaponry, yet not military trained nor expected to be a combat genius. Ninjas are sent by the government to kill him, he messes them up bad with a revolver.

[Fifthfiend]

It goes more like one lone, brash warrior will always defeat a large horde of ninjas.

But - and this is the important part - one lone ninja is an unstoppable force of nature dealing out death and dismemberment indiscriminately and with aplomb.

Especially if you can see his face, know his name, and/or he's wearing any kind of distinctively colored clothing.

Just how many ninjas DID she kill in that one sequence?

But you notice, killing that very last ninja who had actually been given a name was hard as fuck. Hell, she pretty much only won cause her outfit happened to be yellow.

[Telephalsion]

Maybe a lame example, but in Naruto.

The more shadow clones, the more Naruto gets beaten.

I'd get example clips, but all youtube has to offer on naruto are AMVs, and I hate them for so many reasons.

As to why? Pyros and Fifth gave good examples.

Ninja Power would be related to uniqueness. So the more ninjas there are the less unique each individual ninja becomes. Should all of them be nameless and black-clad they'll be nothing more than regular soldiers. But if one of them wears.. say maroon, he'll be more powerfull than the others put together becuase of his uniqueness.

[Doc ock rokc]

ninja in the mithic language of "realitywrite" means alone killer. Thus there should never be crowd of ninjas. so 3 ninjas is realy pushing it. for if more than 3 ninjas the ninjas becomes a non-jas (realitywrite for noobs) so the more "ninjas" are around the more noobish thay become. unless thay have been trained otherwise (examples:tmnt, "narutos group", etc etc)

[Aerozord]

there is something I got to thinking about this. Wouldn't a horde of ninja still be unstoppable? Each time one dies that is one less ninja and eventually you will get to one. And since there is now only one left he is a mighty killing machine.

[Gorefiend]

But that one is still nameless, faceless, and dressed to match the rest of the horde, while the other one has a face, a name, and unique clothing. How can you expect it to be a fair fight?

Also note, that last ninja usually has the most useful, damaging, or near-damaging attack of the entire group.

[PyrosNine]

But that one is still nameless, faceless, and dressed to match the rest of the horde, while the other one has a face, a name, and unique clothing. How can you expect it to be a fair fight?

Also note, that last ninja usually has the most useful, damaging, or near-damaging attack of the entire group.

I figure that when you've watched the rest of your clan get their asses handed to them in a bloody ninja massacre, you tend to prep up something for when it's your turn. You get a good idea of what NOT to do, and if chakra is involved, you have enough time to charge your Rasengan, Chidori, Giant Toad of doom, superninja form, etc while waiting.

You may or may not spend the time betwixt the opponent's slaughtering of your brethren dying your ninja garb blue, green, or purple, or simply taking your hood off.

Also, another thing i recently thought of, is that normally the "evil" ninjas attacking are of a dark and seedy clan, which are grabbing for power. What if they, unlike Ryu's clan, just let any old jerk wear black and hurl kunai? They would get a ninja army to do their bidding, yet none of them would have the training that is poured with years of discipline into that one ninja boy.

Furthermore, why is it Kunoichi in videogames are so damned annoying as opponents?

[Bells]

To make a horde of ninjas invencible, you would have to walk in a bunch of ninjas named Jack, without masks and each one using a unique color ( Not "salmon" ou "Maroon grey" ). Then, when facing a huge horde of Foes or just one powerfull enemy, you and your friends would have to fight it one at a time.

And while one of these ninjas fight all their enemies, the ninja's friends would be taunting him, making fun of his moves or throwing Accorns at him, thus evoking the underdog spirit that makes every ninja invencible when alone.

Plus, Orphans that saw their families get killed are overall stronger

Remember: Childhood Trauma = Ninja power

[Gorefiend]

It might be helpful for that other ninja to try to cheat their way into the name, face, or dress bonuses, but they never do, now do they? It seems the bonuses are decided at the beginning of the battle, when they are quite nameless and faceless and dressed to match.

And, yes, the orphan trauma bonus is just cheap. Actually, one could argue any trauma (lost childhood, lost family (at any stage), veteran of a bloody war, or even repentance from evil acts working for the bad guy) confers a really, really huge bonus to ninja fighting skills.

[Telephalsion]

Any ninja that does a drastic change of behaviour during the fight increases his/her chance of winning. If the ninja constantly taunts his foe, then stops and grows silent, he'll probably bust out some real killing.
The opposite also applies.

EDIT: Atleast I think so, I need to find some better evidence than when Naruto just shuts the hell up.

About the childhood trauma, if there's too much trauma one becomes mad, but does madness equals less ninja power?

[Bells]

No, madness = "Quirky powerfull ninja guy that gets killed fast to improve Hype over the main villain"

[TopHatAssassin]

I would think madness equals more ninja power, in a berserk-fury, rampaging-across-the-battlefield, killing-anything-that-moves way. Or that psychotic type of power, wherein the accumulated trauma is so great that the victim's mind just completely snaps and they kill purely for entertainment purposes.

[Aerozord]

Berserkers have no self preservation instinct, which can be a huge weakness if you know how to use it.

But that one is still nameless, faceless, and dressed to match the rest of the horde, while the other one has a face, a name, and unique clothing. How can you expect it to be a fair fight?

Also note, that last ninja usually has the most useful, damaging, or near-damaging attack of the entire group.
now they are battle worn, thus unique since its no longer ninja guy, its now battle damaged ninja guy. And lets not forget the survival of the fittest, to have survived he has to be stronger. Finally, he gets the "my entire clan was destroyed" emo power boost.

[Bells]

Finally, he gets the "my entire clan was destroyed" emo power boost.

Or the "My entire clan WILL be destroyed if i dont beat you and your unbeatable odds" Double Cheese bonus

[Gorefiend]

Those bonuses don't beat the accumulated bonuses of being faced, named, uniquely dressed (no, having everyone else that wore the same style dress die doesn't make the last man standing uniquely dressed) AND having trauma, as well as possibly a named weapon. In fact, those bonuses (Ah! I have to do this or else I will have failed in my mission/my clan/group will have ended, plus the loss of the ILoN impediment) are just enough to put that last guy in the playing field, which is why the last ninja from among a horde of them is almost always the only one to do any real damage to the other side.

Now, if that last ninja takes his mask off, introduces himself, and walks around, sizing up the situation, we're in a whole other playing field. Even worse if this ninja is of opposite sex to the expected one (if the entire horde was male and this one is female, of if the entire horde was female and this one is male (though this latter bonus is less great)).

[Doc ock rokc]

as i found out ninja (http://askaninja.com/node/3765) has answerd why some ninjas are nameless. that explanes that. maybe we should ask him the question? if you want me to ask him say I

[Telephalsion]

I atleast would like to hear a certified ninja's view on the issue.

On another note, hypothetically, if you had gathering of names, faced, uniquely dressed ninja with named weapons, each one being the sole survivor of their clan each one carrying the baggage of childhood trauma.
Would a faceless, nameless, inconspicously dressed ninja beat any one of them?

[Gorefiend]

Doubtful. He or she wouldn't be able to beat them, but he or she would probably be able to do anything but, and get away alive. If if he or she came in specifically to kill them, then MAYBE one will die before he or she is captured/gets away. In these instances, the ninja cannot beat them one-on-one but almost never dies.

[Aerozord]

I atleast would like to hear a certified ninja's view on the issue.

On another note, hypothetically, if you had gathering of names, faced, uniquely dressed ninja with named weapons, each one being the sole survivor of their clan each one carrying the baggage of childhood trauma.
Would a faceless, nameless, inconspicously dressed ninja beat any one of them?
Against those odd I think the lone nameless ninja would win simply because the other ninjas would surrender once they caught sight of his giant balls

Because they would have to be pretty freakin huge to even attempt that.

[Bells]

Against those odd I think the lone nameless ninja would win simply because the other ninjas would surrender once they caught sight of his giant balls

Because they would have to be pretty freakin huge to even attempt that.

Unless all the special ninjas gathered on a group, which would make the faceless random ninja the outcast, thus, reversing the odds

[Long-Haired Narcissist]

Who would win in a fight between a ninja that's not affiliated with any clan and the sole survivor of a ninja clan?

[Gorefiend]

Probably sole survivor (trauma bonus) unless the unaffiliated one just killed the entire rest of the clan AND has protagonist bonuses going on (name, face, uniqueness (not attributable to his disaffiliation) or named weapon). Frankly, in those cases it usually depends on convenience and continuity.

Its also entirely possible that both die as a result of the fight.

[Bells]

Hey, a forgot to Ask that one...

Scars give what kind of Bonus!?

[Telephalsion]

Doesn't that depend on the kind of scar?
And what about age and experience?
Can the sole survivor child of one clan defeat the sole survivor old hermit of another clan? Assume both have black garb and nameless blades.

[The Argent Lord]

Hey, a forgot to Ask that one...

Scars give what kind of Bonus!?
Generic scar: very little
Scar with backstory: fairly good
Scar gained onscreen: EXTREME!!!!!!1!!1!!1!1one!

And what about age and experience?
Can the sole survivor child of one clan defeat the sole survivor old hermit of another clan? Assume both have black garb and nameless blades.
Old hermit wins. Everyone knows that the older you get, the better your physical condition becomes. Old men are the worst possible opponents, having enough strength and agility to destroy almost any other ninja.

[Gorefiend]

It depends, on the old hermit question. If the hermit apprenticed a named ninja, and the other one has reason to hate this apprentice, then the old hermit may be toast.

[Aerozord]

or if that named ninja is the apprentice.

Oh and there is perhapps the greatest of all bonuses, main character power. Which garentees victory, or atleast survival, reguardless of the odds.

[bananarama]

Don't forget the last-minute training bonuses as well as secret-move-that-had-not-been-revealed-until-now-and-just-so-happens-to-solve-the-current-situation bonuses

[Kerensky287]

I have a question... how does plot work into this?

I mean, say you have a ninja who will EVENTUALLY have a name, and EVENTUALLY have distinguishing marks, but at the time is just a rank-and-file ninja who nobody knows about? I think that he will be awesome just because he's going to have an awesome past. Think about it: a ninja grunt who takes out one of the main characters! He will naturally end up being special in some way.

Or how about this.... what if a normal ninja grunt gets cut across the face with a sword or something? You know... so you can both see his eyes and so that he gets a distinctive scar! It would be the Super Saiyan of ninjas, so to speak.

[Telephalsion]

You can't get boons ahead of time, if you get a scar during a fight, survive, get named, fetch a named blade, train vigourously using a montage* and then seek absolute revenge, you'll probably win.

*montages always make the character win.

[Zilla]

This thread makes me want to make a parody video that violates these laws in unexpected ways.

I don't quite know about the old hermit vs young question though, youth has a certain advantage as well. After all, Beatrix Kiddo beats Pei Mei eventually.

Generally, it's all about the old person being cocky or the young person feeling rightous in their cause. The cockier the old hermit, the more powerful, as this arrogence is usually founded on experience. The youth relies solely on virtue of rebeliousness and upsetting the status quo, and if this feeling is strong enough, the youth will win.

And of course, a youth is more likely to have a montage, which is an instant win.

[Fifthfiend]

Or how about this.... what if a normal ninja grunt gets cut across the face with a sword or something? You know... so you can both see his eyes and so that he gets a distinctive scar!


He's allowed to survive to reappear later in the series with a name and differentiated clothing.

[Zilla]

Well, there is that 5 second window where he may die yet after recieving the scar, before it's magical plot boosting takes effect.

Of course, if he lives, you won't see him for a long time yet, the length of time being inversely porportional to how early he recieves the scar. (the earlier he gets it, the later you see him).

[Gorefiend]

And the later you see him, the stronger he has become. Don't forget that, either. After all, he has:
the trauma bonus (from witnessing mission failure and possibly the death of a mentor)
the scar bonus
the name bonus
the revenge bonus
the unique clothing bonus
(possibly) the named weapon bonus
the single fighter bonus, as he is more likely to engage the other ninja in single combat to obtain his revenge
Only the montage bonuses can save the other ninja then. Of course, montage bonuses trump pretty much all bonuses.

Also, Zilla, if you make such a video parody, let us know.

[Telephalsion]

What variables besides the following are there?


trauma
scar
name
revenge
unique clothing
named weapon
single fighter
group fighter
clan survivor
montage
lead character

[Long-Haired Narcissist]

There's also the flashback bonus. Like say a nameless character is shown earlier and a character wrongs him unknowingly. The nameless character will train with the goal of eventually destroying whoever wronged him. When the nameless guy shows up again, he will actually have a name, a backstory, and...a flashback.

[Fifthfiend]

I would also add one for say, unique weapons, which I differentiate from named weapons. Like a hero can have a really enormous hammer or a sword made out of water or whatever the fuck, and even if it doesn't have a name, it still upgrades him several levels on the Badassometer.

I mean if he has a gigantic sword made out of water and it has a name, then you're just fucked right up the ass.

[Zilla]

What variables besides the following are there?


trauma
scar
name
revenge
unique clothing
named weapon
single fighter
group fighter
clan survivor
montage
lead character

Don't forget visible face, change of demeanor/fighting style, and difference of sex from group.

[Doc ock rokc]

There is also the removing item of clothing bonus which could reveal a scar or face or some hidden weapon

Ah another one! The hidden weapon bonus

Also we have the named technique bonus (+10 points if they don’t need to scream it at the top of there lungs)

also the named technique copy bonus! (example the hadoken/howdoyastopthis) thay did have to copy it thay could also be know the same technique

[Gorefiend]

Actually, I'd think screaming it at the top of one's lungs doesn't help. After all, its only if you have the time to utter it, slowly, that you're unique enough to have a bonus.

The removing an article of clothing falls under "change of demeanor/fighting style." Anything revealed at that moment, of course, becomes a further bonus, including time spent talking and revealing the name of one's weapon or one's life story.

I might add, that bonus has a sub-bonus if a speech is given, and, as a rule of thumb, the longer the speech, the more powerful the ninja. Things revealed within the speech (name of a weapon, revenge story, etc) also count as bonuses.

[Loki, The Fallen]

Actually, I'd think screaming it at the top of one's lungs doesn't help. After all, its only if you have the time to utter it, slowly, that you're unique enough to have a bonus.

Even more points if its said calmly, or if its said in an uncaring "Leave me alone your annoying" way, especially if that attack is huge and powerful.

[PyrosNine]

Then there's always the Anti-ninja, the ninja that's the least ninja-y yet dares still call himself a ninja, like most characters on Naruto, the Fat ninja from Shaolin Showdown, any Fat ninja, A ninja that uses a gun, and any ninja that wears bright colors. Sometimes serve as comic relief.

They generally suck ( as their name implies) as a ninja, but their character and personality somehow always lets them survive, despite their better ninjas dying in battle in droves before a determined enemy. Of course, this isn't too good for the Anti-Ninjas, as while their record may have a spotless 100% survival rating, they are generally too ineffective to do anything useful, other than be a general Nuisance slow the opponent down before he gets to the "boss" ninja. Most likely he doesn't kill them because he finds them not worthy to taint his weapons.

However, should the Anti-Ninja have a backstory, serious moments, a scar that didn't come from a horrible peanut butter knife related accident, frequently uses montages, and possibly has a curse or a demon within him, then he has the chance to become a powerful Ninja.

[Gorefiend]

The thing about Naruto and company is, they are bending the rules in their own universe. Yes, Naruto himself has plenty of other bonuses, as do his friends, but the fact that they do and they're grunts, while much more skilled ninja (in theory) die in droves means something, too. Heck, I'm temped to call protagonist and continuity bonuses* on them.

*The cheap-ass bonuses that can make a baby defeat the most overpowered of villains without lifting a finger (see Potter v. Voldemort), or allow heroes to survive if they jump out right before the explosion (any action movie), or that even bring them back from the dead (I can't come up with an example, though I think I have one on the tip of my tongue. Not even sure of that.).

[Doc ock rokc]

er i said:
(+10 points if they don’t need to scream it at the top of there lungs)

also

or that even bring them back from the dead
dead pool is a good example he was brough back to life and renderd inmortal by one of his villens because he was jealous of his realationship with death (bow chca wow wow)

and i thougt of another one the hero's power is boosted if the person he is fighting with is some one he had a history with (family member, friend, fellow student) the bouns is even stronger if thay met before and the hero lost

[Red Mage Black]

Not sure if anyone thought of this, but how bout a kunoichi?

What I think bonuses for Kunoichi:

* Boosted power for all ninja bonuses.

* Amount of skin shown. (ie. Cleavage and length of legs.)

* Easily Visible things. (ie. Panties)

For the second bonus I think it is the more skin shown the better and for the third bonus I think it is a matter of how easily they can be seen.

Though I guess these would count more towards anime.

[Doc ock rokc]

the Kunoichi also have a gender bonus

another bonus is the internal confict bonus as in *spoiler for bleach*like ichigo and his hollow self after winning this conflict the ninja or hero is stronger!

[Red Mage Black]

Actually... if I think about it correctly, just having a name doesn't mean they'll get a bonus. Plenty of movies and shows had characters with names, though they got killed first or in the beginning.

So I guess the equation has to go: name + back story = story character.

[Doc ock rokc]

Yes I agree, but those are stronger than nameless ninjas. So they offer up how powerful the story character is example the hero punches a named ninja in the face and the named ninja flies into a tree which falls onto of him the villain says "hmm *name* he was one of my best"

[Red Mage Black]

the Kunoichi also have a gender bonus

another bonus is the internal confict bonus as in *spoiler for bleach*like ichigo and his hollow self after winning this conflict the ninja or hero is stronger!
I forgot to mention yesterday... I think gender bonus was already mentioned I forget.

But yeah, I've also noticed that the kunoichi are stronger then their male counterparts. Is that the gender bonus in effect? I would guess so. Other then that, unless another kunoichi is fighting them then the man will have trouble.

Kunoichi with names, back stories, trauma, with scars that have stories, powerful super skills , AND named weapons are the hardest for men. All those boosted bonuses are quite a challenge and usually mean the female will come back later for revenge when they're beaten therefore giving them the revenge bonus and probably also the new powerful never before seen powerful skill bonus. (That's a mouthful.)

[Telephalsion]

Hmm, so the more skin you see the more powerful you get?
I think that naked ninja would not be the greatest of ninja.

Also, we all know all females are immune to certain attacks, I.E. Johnny Cage's Split Punch

[Doc ock rokc]

I figured out that the worse the ninjas the cheaper they are. The cheaper they are the more you can rent. Thus it’s not really a ninja rule. It’s manly that villains are cheap bustards

[Hatake Kakashi]

Though I guess these would count more towards anime.

And as we all know, anime is the leading authority on the facts of shinobi lore.

Kunoichi automatically gain a bonus in combat, at least pertaining to their chances of survival, due to their rarity and the possibility of a ratings drop when the otakus cease watching because of the demise of their favorite animated piece of ass. Other than that bonus, their usefulness in most cases is limited. There are exceptions to this rule, of course. The snake charmer from Ninja Scroll being slaughtered, the poison tester... which brings up another couple bonuses still:

The "Anything that sleeps with, or molests, me, dies horribly" bonus.

and

The "The hot piece of ass of the film that should've been my woman just got killed, so now I go on a fucking rampage" bonus.

Also, the "I have a tattoo on my penis" bonus. This instantly grants fame, notoriety, and power to the ninja, who, oddly by nature, should still be unknown.

.. err.. Not that I would know anything about that.... carry on.

[Zilla]

kunoichi don't have to be limited in use, unless it's one of those things that just feature them as a added token for the fanboys -_-. But Yae is probably one of the best of Goemon's group. And anything that features a kunoichi working alone... woah! Hold on!!! I just realized something. A lot of these laws are reverse for kunoichi! The less that is known about them, the more powerful they are!

[Hatake Kakashi]

I'm not quite so sure about that.

We know a lot about Tsunade, and she could whup anyone's ass.

[Zilla]

okay... maybe we women don't have hard and fast rules like guys do? But I'm thinking of all the "mysterious woman" assassins that totally rip stuff apart.

Or maybe just Ada Wong and some other brief recollections.

[Telephalsion]

In defense of Zilla's theory, we've seen less and less of Tsunade Fighting as we've learned more about her.

[Gorefiend]

Well, those kunoichi are both working alone (a HUGE bonus) AND have the gender bonus. You don't have to twist the rules to get them to win. Also, remember the scenario I laid out for cases where the single ninja unknown can take on an assembly of unique ninja and survive, possibly even killing up to one of them? Well, kunoichi have all the more reason to do better as well or better.

[Doc ock rokc]

so lets recap! the majority=weaker that goes with named/nameless, male/female if there is a group thay are weaker the the one alone

the protagonist/backgrounded=stronger but can still lose in a fightonly to get more powerful

the Antagonist/Antagonists= power full at first, screwed later

the rematch rule=The previous loser always wins unless the loser needs to get stronger yet again

named weapon/technique rule= always powerful but is even more if thay dont have to shout it at the top of there lungs or if thay have personalitys (weps only)

[Zilla]

Also, if you are comic relief, your chances of survival are almost 100%.

[Doc ock rokc]

yes but you suck at fighting

[Gorefiend]

Does that matter? Honestly?

[Telephalsion]

It has to be a good thing to be ludicrous but invincible.