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Bells
11-25-2008, 03:23 PM
This is similar to a "Let's play" thread but not really on the same vein, so i thought it would be ok to open it up here by now...
Either way, the idea is this:
Everyone plays an online game (probably a MMORPG) together. Sharing the same account. Those who want to play but dont want to download and instal the client, can help making decesions via screenshots and talking in this Thread.
The goal Is to reach Endgame. Endgame will be defined by that point where a character can acess all areas of the game and survive for at least 5 whole minutes in those places. Also, in case we choose a PVP game, Endgame will be defined by also being able to win PVP battles against other high level characters.
Everybody will play with the same account, and that's where communication kicks in big time. People will be able to Schedule thei game sessions. So, if today i can play and nobody has reserved today, i come here post when i'll most likely be playing (dont have to be exact... "Friday - Night" will do) and when i'll most liekly stop playing ( "Sunday morning" for instance) to, everybody can book the accoun on their on agendas, and if you want, you can PM someone to trade slots if you want it and they got it first...
So, of course, it's expected no "assholish" behavior like "stealing" the account (since multiple users will own the password) or selling gear without talking to people here first.
The evolution of our avatar will also be picked as a group decision... if you level up but we dont have an agreement on what build we are going for, you can do what you think it's best. But if the majority wants to make a tank, you dont go around making a Quickcaster...
The same applies to Buying and selling itens and skills. Other than that, you can do whatever you like. Do quests, mob hunt, raid, whatever..
The only point in common for all players are these:
1- Try your best to leave the character in a city when you log off.
2- Always try to end any quests you start
3- always post at least one screenshot of your gameplay session when you're done.
So... if you read this far you must be asking... what is the game we will play anyway? Well... that's the first task.
The very first thing you must do is pick a game. I strongly suggest you pick a game you never played before. We go blind and we go bold into it. learning as we go, towards the endgame. So i'll post some suggestions, and you guys vote or suggest other games that you never played before. As soon as we have our game picked, you all can download the client, and I'll make the account, passing it to all players via PM.
here are the first options, i tried to pick only those that looked good, but i did picked a few that seemed bad, so you guys can pick your poison:
WURM ONLINE - It has Small pinewood catapults!!
http://wurmonline.com/forum/gallery/301_12_10_08_8_57_43.jpg
MYTH WARS 2 - Look at all the flying white tigers!!
http://mw2.igg.com/upload/200811/b_12260607656913.jpg
SECRET OF THE SOLSTICE - HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
http://solstice.outspark.com/media/screenshots
FIESTA ONLINE - Such flat grounds
http://fiesta.outspark.com/media/?view=screenshots
CORUM - Exciting gameplay!!
http://corum.gpotato.com/?i=screenshots
Angels Online - This picture contains cock riding (upper left corner)
http://ao.igg.com/upload/2008/11/24230552604.jpg
A3 "We couldnt think of a better name
http://games.sify.com/mmog/a3/img_screenshots/sso001_b.jpg
9 Dragons Glowy Death!!!
http://9dragons.acclaim.com/images/thumb-screen6-big.jpg
Shaiya - GoGo Medieval Rangers!!
http://s.aeriagames.com/files/images/sy/screenshots/Shaiya10.jpg
Cronus - Everybody Glowing together now
http://cronous.amped.ph/Portals/2/200711273333ss.jpg
Tantra - All Shopkeepers look alike!
http://www.tantra.ph/Portals/0/screens/TANTRA_SCREEN%20(2).jpg
PLUS - BONUS: Because this is actually official Art for the game
http://www.tantra.ph/Portals/0/screens/TANTRA_SCREEN%20(9).jpg
Rappelz - Dumb name is Dumb
http://rappelz.gpotato.com/?m=downloads&a=media
Requiem - BLOOD!!!!
http://www.playrequiem.com/media/screenshots.aspx
ROSE Online This game actually has Go Karts AND Giant robots, plus, Tophats
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9862/screen010wt9.jpg
Atlantica Online - Half Disgaea, Half Tactics, Half Chess, Full blue!!
http://img.ndoorsgames.com/atlantica/pds/screen/view_screen10.jpg
I think these games cover all grounds. You can check gameplay videos by simply typing "Gameplay" and the game name on Youtube
as soon as we pick the game, we can start downloading and talking about what character we will make.
I'd like to take a ganter at this. I'm getting tired of all my old games.
Though, Bells, we would have to make sure everyone can run the game, so post sys requirements maybe?
Osterbaum
11-25-2008, 03:45 PM
How about some sci-fi?
Ryong
11-25-2008, 03:49 PM
But but but account sharing? Isn't it against the rules? >_<
My suggestion is Rappelz, though. Atlantica Online seems nice, too.
Bells
11-25-2008, 04:06 PM
I'd like to take a ganter at this. I'm getting tired of all my old games.
Though, Bells, we would have to make sure everyone can run the game, so post sys requirements maybe?
The most demanding of all of these is Atlantica Online, so, if you can handle it, you can handle them all
http://img.ndoorsgames.com/atlantica/pds/img_gd.jpg
How about some sci-fi?
If only! There are so few... and if it's not a "Space Ship MMO" it's usally pretty boring! But if you can find a good free Sci-fi MMOG just add it to the list!
But but but account sharing? Isn't it against the rules? >_<
C'mon man! be a rebel!!
How are we gonna decide who gets to be on when?
Bells
11-25-2008, 04:18 PM
By Scheduling. It's the best way i can think of.
Let's say you have time to play on Fridays, during the afternoon, so you come here and you book that time slot for you. Now, all the players know you will be logged on during that timeframe.
If you're not going to use that timeframe, just post here and cancel it. It's most likely that we will have a very small number of people actually sharing the account, so it shouldnt be complicated at all...
I for one, am more likely to play these after midnight between monday to thursday, so, if i were to play today i would just post here saying "I'll be logged today from 1am to about 3am" and there you go... if you, for instance wanted to play on that time, but i got here first, you could just send me a PM asking if you could play it instead and there you go...
Melfice
11-25-2008, 04:28 PM
Pro-tip:
EVERY time you post a reservation, post the time you want to play AND your timezone AND the "translated" time to... oh, I don't know, GMT.
Solves a LOT of unnecessary confusion, especially if two people would be playing back-to-back.
Ryong
11-25-2008, 06:59 PM
We could make a big ol' scheduler thing. It'd be great. Heck, we'd probably need someone just to manage the whole thing, but count me in...In two weeks.
Bells
11-25-2008, 07:14 PM
to reduce confusion we could set the clock by the Majority, which's probably going to be Washington DC timeif that makes it easier...
Im guessing we would end up with probably 6 people playing the game and about 4 more just pitching in here in the thread, and that is in a high success scenario... so it wont be complicated to manage in the end.
I still need more votes on which game to take, though... i like Atlantica, but it just might be a tad too heavy for me. Still manageable if that's what the crowd wants... i could go with Either 9 Dragons or Rappelz too
Atlantica please. My cpu can run it, and it looks pretty for me. I keep forgetting that the laptop I will be running this on can run Far Cry 2 almost. I worry about the processor though. It's only a 2 gig single core. Oh well... Count me in!
Ryong
11-26-2008, 04:07 AM
Okay, I just saw a gameplay video of Atlantica. It's awesome.
Bells
11-26-2008, 06:59 AM
So, all in favor of Atlantica Oline being our new Adventure, say "Yay"
Osterbaum
11-26-2008, 07:37 AM
I vote for Atlantica.
Bells
11-26-2008, 09:35 AM
Well, that's good enough for me! we have
4 votes on Atlantica Online
2 for Rappelz
1 for 9 Dragons
I dont think we're going to ee that much of a big change, so since the Atlantica Cliente is a 2GB download (Holly crap...) you can start downloading, unless someone comes with a better idea!
You can gt it here
http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/pds/pds.asp
I'll make a account soon.
So, without further delays i Present:
NPF Plays Atlantica Online the Multiplayed Multiplayer Adventure
The World: Atlantica Online is a Strategic Turn-Based MMORPG.
http://img.ndoorsgames.com/atlantica/guide/img_intro01_01.jpg
http://img.ndoorsgames.com/atlantica/guide/img_intro01_02.jpg
http://img.ndoorsgames.com/atlantica/guide/img_intro01_03.jpg
http://img.ndoorsgames.com/atlantica/guide/img_intro01_04.jpg
Achievements (Yes, i just created Achievements for Cooperative "Let's play" :D )
1- ENDGAME : Reach and survive at Dungeon "Constantinople Battlefield" ( Lvl Required 96 )
2- Army Man : Get 8 Mercenaries in your party
3- Join the Man : Be part of a guild and/that controls a town
4 - BE the man : Create a guild and control a town
5 - Royal Blood : Become a King
6 - Crafty McCraftson : Craft your first item
7 - PROMOTION : Promote one of your mercenaries from the lowest to the highest ranking
8 - Collect them all!! : Get 1 full set of any kind
9 - I MINED FISH! : Become an Apprentice
10 - Join me luke... : Become the master of an Apprentice
More Achievements can be created by anyone playing (in game or via forum) and more will be unlocked later on. The player that gets the Achievement can claim it in the Thread!
OUR AVATAR
In atlantica we can pick one of 7 characters, these are quite cool looking and different, here are our picks, you all can vote on which we should make so we can start when someone finishes the download first.
SWORD: Flame Sword (extra Damage)
Good Stat: Defense
Bad Stat: Dexterity
SPEAR: Lightning Spear (extra damage)
Good Stat: Strength
Bad Stat: Dexterity
AXE: Freezing Axe (Paralyzes targets )
Good Stat: Defense
Bad Stat: Dexterity
GUN: Wild Shot (Piercing Damage)
Good Stat: Dexterity
Bad Stat: Strength
BOW: Silence (Locks magic skills)
Good Stat: Dexterity
Bad Stat: Strength
CANNON: Deep Insight (Reveals Target HP and causes damage)
Good Stat: Intelligence
Bad Stat: Dexterity
STAFF: Blessing of Life (heal)
Good Stat: Intelligence
Bad Stat: Strength
RECAP: You can Play by Downloading the Client and sharing our account, or you can play by following the Thread and giving your opinion and ideas.
I think we should get a Long Range Character and aim for a Full Long Range party, what you guys think?
Si Civa
11-26-2008, 10:01 AM
Even though I wont myself play this (I'm not multiplayer guy that much) but as I strongly support this thing inside my mind I'll say that Listen Bellsouth Minion. Long range chacters will (in theory at least) easy to level up because you can run away easier and still do damage. That's the plus side of long range even though in end game it will probably be so that melee chacters will do more damage but long range chacters will still be able to be away from actual battle.
But basically, choose cannon, bow or gun people!
Osterbaum
11-26-2008, 10:27 AM
I'm gonna go with gun. Based on nothing more than what I see here.
I'll get to downloading the game sooner or later. I'll start downloading this week, but I can't say for sure yet how long it will take after that for me to get playing.
Bells
11-26-2008, 11:17 AM
i was set on Cannon, but Gun's skill sounds better, i'll add more info on the classes today i want to learn about it without spoiling the game (after all, part of the fun is going blind and getting there with it...)
also, Ranged weapons have most of the Boobies int he game
http://images.mmosite.com/news/2008/01/28/axxxxxx012906.jpg
I was thinking to suggest maybe going with staff... being the healer to your own team, since you can have 8 other units fighting for you... but there seems to be Healing units and buffing units, so im not sure...
I would be ok going Gun too if everybody is onboard, but Axe's Freezin skill seems highly praised
secretskull
11-26-2008, 11:54 AM
I'm going to vote for Bows, because I just love the idea of silencing mages. With a bow. In other words, shooting them in the throat.
Awesome.
I will gonna go with the gun. Piercing the fuck out of tanks sounds jolly good fun.
PhoenixFlame
11-26-2008, 02:14 PM
Do note that if your main character dies in Atlantica, your team is defeated, so putting yourself in the rear rank is a good idea. You can still do this with a melee character, but who wants to play a swordsman in the third rank?
Wouldn't suggest all-range, though. It's a tactical game, so you'll need melees in the front rank to soak damage, since range characters are pretty weak at that. Can't kite either, since all battles shift to a tactical grid once they begin.
Si Civa
11-26-2008, 02:16 PM
also, Ranged weapons have most of the Boobies int he game
Shame on you.
But as there doesn't seem to pure mage type chacter (offensive magic I mean!) and that cannon gets inteligent points I have to ask, does this mean that everybody will learn magic? Or is it only for enemies or just certain classes?
I would myself say that go for guns or bows as it seems that guns do good damage and bows are useful against mages. And basically I would say that both mages and meelee fighters can cause lots of damage, so it would be good take care of them first. Archers (all kind) can be irritating though and you can shoot them with your bullets and arrows too! Yay?
And what is going to be your chacter sex and name? This seems to be quite interesting and I will probably enjoy laughing at yo.. laughing with you! Don't laugh at me!
Ryong
11-26-2008, 02:23 PM
More enemies with lots of armor or more with magic? If the former, go with guns, if the latter, bow.
Bells
11-26-2008, 02:42 PM
Shame on you.
But as there doesn't seem to pure mage type chacter (offensive magic I mean!) and that cannon gets inteligent points I have to ask, does this mean that everybody will learn magic? Or is it only for enemies or just certain classes?
I would myself say that go for guns or bows as it seems that guns do good damage and bows are useful against mages. And basically I would say that both mages and meelee fighters can cause lots of damage, so it would be good take care of them first. Archers (all kind) can be irritating though and you can shoot them with your bullets and arrows too! Yay?
And what is going to be your chacter sex and name? This seems to be quite interesting and I will probably enjoy laughing at yo.. laughing with you! Don't laugh at me!
Everybody has skills and some form of magical attacks, Staff users though, are move towards healing magic, which as far as i know, it's exclusive to those types of characters.
A quick glide on the forums shows that Axe and Cannon are the "PvP" and "Quick Level" characters of choice, due to damage and skills i was looking toawrds cannon, but i liked Gun better... and sice you all seemed to be inclined towards that too... i'll tell you what we're gong to do.
In a while i'll bring some more details about the Cannon and Gun characters (sorry about the Bow user but form what i've seen the silence skill isnt really all kick ass as i would like to be, all you need is a monk or a "Green magic" type unit to get in the clear.
I'll post comparisons between Cannon and Gun so we can make the final call in a minute or two, keep giving ideas!
EDIT I'm back! here's the info
GUN
Ability Description: The gun's long range ability inflicts damage to 3 enemies in a straight line. ( Piercing damage )
Power Rate : 65 ~ 95 ( +-80 )
Stats: From 1 to 10 ( Gun total = 25,5 )
Str : 4,5
Int : 5
Dex : 6
Vit : 5
Def : 5
After studying the Classes, i can tell you guys.... Gun is better. Cannon has Splash damage but lower Stats overall ( total 23,5 ) and wider dmg rate ( 55 ~ 100 ) and Bow has lower stats ( 24,5 ) and similar dmg ( 60 ~ 110 ) but it's skill is not all that good. Plus, we can get archers as Mercenaries
So, if everyone is Ok, we're going with Gun, right?
PhoenixFlame
11-26-2008, 04:36 PM
As someone who's played this game but probably won't participate in this, if you go gun, be sure to get another gunner merc, IMO. The "piercing" quality isn't anti-armor, it is a poor translation way of saying that gunners hit everyone in a row, from front to back. This is nice, because they're the only people that can hit third row (mages generally) without taking out the front, but the damage is severely reduced for every enemy behind the first.
Archers tend to do more damage (to their primary) in my experience, but they only hit one enemy. Line-fighters like spearmen and gunners really shine in groups or pairs however, my current party is a staff main, 3 spearmen, 2 gunners and a monk, and linear blitzing is absolutely awesome.
Ryong
11-26-2008, 05:06 PM
Gun!
First merc will have to be a sword or a spear guy, to defend the main, too.
Bells
11-26-2008, 05:11 PM
If im not mistaken we can only hire Sword's as mercs in the beggining... but that dosent stop us talking about future configurations...
We also can share ideas about how to level up, what sort of gear we should look, if we should fish or create itens... that stuff
Sweet, I'm downloading the game now. Many things keep interrupting it.
Bells
11-26-2008, 05:44 PM
You cna download the client as a 2 part direct-download (so you can use programs like Flashget) or using several download mirrors, or a torrent file, and there is even a Downloader provided on the site itself that allows you to pause the download. It's massive. 2Gb download and a 5gb install... but the more i read about it, the more it seems worth it.
PhoenixFlame
11-27-2008, 11:58 AM
If im not mistaken we can only hire Sword's as mercs in the beggining... but that dosent stop us talking about future configurations...
Starter mercs are sword, spear, gun, and archer. Shamans at level 10.
Kerensky287
11-27-2008, 02:13 PM
Wait, so this is like a Let's Play, except it's a Let's ALL Play? Sounds awesome! We just need to recruit DFM to write an epic metastory and Arhra to attempt the incredibly difficult parts over and over for hours on end, while I make smartass comments about the things that happen in the game.
I'm voting for gun main and a sword merc too. I haven't really looked into the game much (don't have time at the moment) but when I get a chance I'll download the client!
Are we going to have a sign in/sign out system so that we don't end up with three people trying to log on at once? Or maybe a rotation so that when it's someone's turn they'll be able to prepare?
EDIT: I also find it kinda funny that Atlantica was picked. That's like... the first time for me that an ad on the screen has ever actually WORKED.
Bells
11-27-2008, 02:39 PM
To anyone who is insterested: We're in.
Account is setup, Character is created and i have PROOF!
I was going to use Spoiler2 tags to hide these (they are big) but i dont want to get warned... but also i dont want to screw up the thread and overload it with images... but future screenshots will be scaled down
http://e.imagehost.org/t/0411/Untitled_1_6.jpg (http://e.imagehost.org/view/0411/Untitled_1_6)
So, this is the Character creation screen. We have our Gun. I picked Female, becaus, as you can see... the male version just looks really bland... Also i tried to customized the character (very few options...) to make it look distinct. So i ended up Nariko-ing our Character!!
I picked the name, because, since i wouldnt be able to please everyone, i just went for the displease everyone angle.
http://e.imagehost.org/t/0231/Untitled_4_7.jpg (http://e.imagehost.org/view/0231/Untitled_4_7)
So, this is the very first thing you see in the game. An angel greets us at the Tutorial stage, where she gives us our first Quest. we must find the Mercenary Manager and hire our first! Cool!!
We get out to the world... and what you know? There is a small arrow following us. ANd it's pointing to the opposite direction!!
Well, that's our quest guide. You see, it points you towards your quest goal!
http://e.imagehost.org/t/0324/Untitled_6.jpg (http://e.imagehost.org/view/0324/Untitled_6)
Now you might notice that the game itself is looking a bit... odd here. Well, let me tell you.
I run a Sempron 1.7 with 512ram and a GForce5200Fx 128 video card. Im right under mininal spec. So, when the game booted up on Medium settings, my framerate went down to a CRAWL. So i had to go in game (you cant do it from outside) and change the settings to the all mininal req... thus, getting the crappy look you people are seeing here. I personally dont mind playing this way... and i DID tried to get one screenshot of the maximum quality settings... but my computer CRASHED. So, out of 5 graphic seetings, im running on 2.
SO... i follow the guide (quite handy!) and find the proper NPC. Now he gives me these options of who i can hire! And ofcourse, that's a major game decision, so you all have to pitch in.
http://e.imagehost.org/t/0232/Untitled_9.jpg (http://e.imagehost.org/view/0232/Untitled_9)
I for one vote for the SPEARMAN they seem quite brutal. All mercenaries come with skills of their own that are the same that our NuklearGun ( Nookie for petname :D ) could have on that class. So, we have the Archer who is a sniper, the Swordsman who is a tank and debuffer (breaks shields) and the Lance who just seems really brutal, and the Gunner who is just a copy of our main char.
So who is going to be guys?
Also, if you want to play this but dont want to download the client, here are some important info for future decisions.
http://e.imagehost.org/t/0026/Untitled_10.jpg (http://e.imagehost.org/view/0026/Untitled_10)
As you can see... we get here:
Crafting menu: we can learn a LOT os different types of Crafting, and these seem major to the game.
Refine: A'la Diablo, itens break. Refining makes them stronger and more durable
Enchant: Might be very important but risky. It allow us to improve our own weapons!
Stamina: We have 19 hours left. I dont know what this is... i THINK it's a "It's time to stop playing and take a rest" kinda thing...
And we have our first Actions, we can get a lot more by leveling up.. but we still dont have the ability to express any sort of emotions or human-like behavior =3
SO! First choice... which Mercenary should we get?
ALSO: If you want to play, download and install the client, and PM me to get the account. Dont ask the account before you've actually installed the game and/or at least joined the conversation here... i dont want to loose this account.
If you want to participate with us but dont want to actually play the game, just pitch in your ideas and opinions and follow the gameplay
Also, i would like to play a little more today, maybe test a few battles... but i cant without finishing the first quests, so, if you guys could share your thoughts i plan on picking this up today at night.
Our very own skill "Wild Shot" is there too... and our CUrrent map
Ryong
11-27-2008, 02:49 PM
I suggest a Sword guy.
I also suggest that we get a ventrillo server or equivalent.
Si Civa
11-27-2008, 02:56 PM
If you want to participate with us but dont want to actually play the game, just pitch in your ideas and opinions and follow the gameplay
That will be me, yar.
And do something! What a great idea, isn't it?
Bells
11-27-2008, 02:58 PM
That will be me, yar.
And do something! What a great idea, isn't it?
i did something i picked the character with the booooooooooooooooooooooooobies :D *poke poke*
Also, I Are Stupid... we get -> TWO <- Mercs!
So, this is what the score is looking like
we have:
1 vote Sword
1 vote spear
PhoenixFlame
11-27-2008, 04:07 PM
Vote for the spear frontline as they seem to have enough vitality while loading up on the killiness.
We all know dead men don't fight back!
Ryong
11-27-2008, 04:15 PM
I already got the game installed but I gotta say:
Updates are long.
Si Civa
11-27-2008, 04:20 PM
We all know dead men don't fight back!
Undead guy is a dead guy.
And Bellsouth Minion. Shame on you. Again. I bet you will download a mod where men will also have boobies. Man boobies, you sure feel disgusted now.
Also, stop poking your computer's screen, it's getting dirty.
Ryong
11-27-2008, 04:48 PM
Okay, I tried it out ( made a character on another server to see how the game was like. I suggest all of the people planning on playing to do the same. ) and someone sent me a level 70 gun. It was weird. Battles take a little bit to get used ( the action points, mostly ) but it's pretty fun.
Bells
11-27-2008, 04:56 PM
CURRENT SCHEDULE
I'll be picking this up today later on, but from tomorrow until sunday night all slots are open and i wont be avaliable. So, if anyone wants the password to play during the weekend, let me know ok?
So far we will be Getting 2 spears unless more people ask otherwise
Osterbaum
11-27-2008, 05:20 PM
I think we should get a melee character to aid us.
How about swordsman x1 and spearman x1, so we get the feel to both and know better in the future which kind to hire more.
I plan on starting my download this weekend. Can't be sure when it will be finished. I plan to participate in this, but I also plan to create my own character to see for myself from start to finish what the game is like.
Ryong
11-27-2008, 05:42 PM
So far we will be Getting 2 spears unless more people ask otherwise
But we can't make a ragtag bunch of misfits with two people using the same weapon! I suggest one Sword, one Spear!
Bells
11-27-2008, 07:12 PM
Me thinks i did a booboo...
so... you see... the thing is... we ended up not having 1x sword and 1x spear... but we ended up having 3 spears!! You can totally blame my mouse for the first two.... the third one is on my actually... that was just stupid...
See? Here we are killing bambi and his family...
http://e.imagehost.org/t/0773/Atlantica_20081127_212321453.jpg (http://e.imagehost.org/view/0773/Atlantica_20081127_212321453)
But that's ok... this sort of thing can happen in a thread like this. I promisse, if i get a chance i'll get a sword guy and any of you can jump in there and exchange them if you like (just dont blow our money all away!)
BUT there is an Upside... Spears attack 2 enemies in a row and combo like crazy!
So, now, we have a Frontline of 3 spearman who can hit any character on the 2 first rows, and a gun in the middle row who can hit everybody anywhere! It seems a fairly good start. And soon enough we will be able to get Shamans who also heal. This could make our entire party into a tank. Also, all our mercenaries use the same kind of Equip, so, i dunno... that helps?
So, there are a couple things to notice from my first gameplay session..
1- it was given to me the option of picking a place to be our.. starter town... as there was no difference i could see, i just picked Pusan (the forest of Spirits)... for some reason i belive that in any RPG, all lands near water are better.
2- Im doing the first quests. they are short, easy and very simple. Already got Lvl 8 and 5k in cash. Plus, a new Rifle and a few item boxes (item boxes gives us random items and upgrade crystals).
3- I noticed, checking the community options, that the highest leve of Crafstmanship for guns in our server is 42 out of 100 ... i think that's something we should look into the future.
So, before i keep going further ahead... what should be the game play? I alread won 7 levels but i havent upgraded anything on my own. Stats, skils, nothing... so what should we be doing?
Ryong
11-27-2008, 07:27 PM
Hm. Mercenaries also level up, right? Hmm... Maybe we could go full attack with the main character?
Edit: Ok, so, I played a bit and...I've no idea where are the "stats" or equivalent so even if I wanted to screw the characters up, I couldn't.
Osterbaum
11-28-2008, 06:44 AM
I say we go for a character who excells in support (and, well gunnery) but who can also handle her own if it comes to that. So a well balanced character.
But if you decide to do something different, I don't mind either. I'm rather open.
As for the spearmen, well just make them strong. That's what they're for, aren't they?
Bells
11-28-2008, 08:25 AM
i've bee cleaning up some basic fetch quests and i have 5 new pieces of info:
1- I got's some Stat potions!! You see... when you level up, you win "Point" q per leve. These potions costs 1 point each, i got for. THey raise our stats. But the raising is random. So, since there is no way to control it, i just used it. Got a nice boost in INT and DEX !
2- Ryong played and got us a bunch of Boxes. Equipament boxes are great, they give you 1 piece of basic equip. So i used them up and now our entire team has armor and weapons! If you play and get more of these, Open up if you think we need. If you see that we dont need, sell the boxes. they worth more than the itens within.
3- I got a new mercenary as a Quest. Following what you guys asked, im going to get a Sword guy. Put im in the front. Our team is starting to shaping up! It's going to be Blunt and Direct now, but on the next team update i vote we get a Healer in the party... right now the potions are plenty and they take care of it all, but we need to think endgame too...
4- The Economy system in this game is fucking brilliant. but it sucks and it's great at the same time. buying and selling is torture. Such ugly and cluncky design.... it's all just a bunch of text lists and categories... BUT there is a thng called RATE. rate is the price the SERVER gives you for just how much an item is ACTUALLY worth. So you always know when someone if overpricing anything, and it encourages people to go under rate price so they can sell, and some of then really do that! the majority dont... so you will see a basic shield (rate 100 gold) being sold at 249 quite often...
5- I won new skills!! See... skills and magics are learned by books. We use our Skill points to get those... i still havent got any books, but this game has a LEARNING system. In the Community -> Forum menu Ingame, there is a bunch of people offering to teach novices new skills! FOR FREE!! Just send someone a ingame e-mail, being polite, and ask to learn. They add you as friend and simply teach you a new skill level! Since skill levels go from 0 to 100, this is absolutly fantastic and totally makes people interact! Plus, you can raise your skills while you heal ( just press X to sit ) which i really like.
So, now we have a full fledge team, and im going to get some more levels and loot, and also im trying to learn how to craft stuff... so what you guys think we should do? What skills should we learn? Should we craft for ouselves or just to sell?
Recaps: I wont play untill sunday now, so all time slots are free for grabs. Also, if you want to play, download the client and ask me or Ryong for the Account. Or just pitch in here.
Keep the thread updated guys.
Osterbaum
11-28-2008, 09:49 AM
Well I'm in the process of downloading now, shouldn't take long.
I think we should assemble our team as much as possible as we would like it to be later on so we can start leveling up the mercenaries now. A healer is a must for when things get serious.
Bells
11-28-2008, 10:37 AM
Update:
Now we can auto-collect the loot of all fallen enemies in battle, just press X during battle
we now have a Sword and im on a quest that will give us a Viking, i plan on selling that item as the Viking is not ver praised... shaman are healers and monks are buffers, so we need to check those auto. Also, a Shaman costs 10k to hire
You can only buy Low to Mid gear. All the best gear in the game must be Crafted / Enchanted. So skills are a must. Crystal and Ring skills seemed to be the most praised. as Crustal are needed to Upgrade mercenaries and ENchant everything
There are Flying enemies. Sword and Lance cant hit them without using skills. Only magic and ranged attacks reach flying enemies. So, always keep a scroll with out Sword guy (he is the tank...)
Ryong
11-28-2008, 11:07 AM
When I play, I'll be mostly just killing things. Don't expect me to do much more than that :p.
Also? Bambi? He's twice the level of hell soldiers. Yes my friends, you have read right, Bambi is stronger than a minion of hell.
I'm gonna make me my own account just to dick around and get a feel for the game. Don't count me in just yet. I wanna have some experience first. It does look real fun though.
Bells
11-28-2008, 03:26 PM
i've confirmed. this game is anti-asshole. It's actually pretty awesome!
Few things for you guys who want to play in the future.
we now have a mentor and we must enter a guild in the near future. The game is made in a way that if you dont have a mentor before lvl 30, and apprentices after level 30, thigs are more difficult. The same goes to joining a guild. Both side wins.
Also, you can share info on monsters you've met. I expend all the time i wasp layng trading info with people. The thing is that each time you give someone something, you win something else in return, Be it stamina, power, cash, xp, or mentoring points. So everybody wants to be your friend...!
The more info you have on a monster (even those you haven faced yet) the easier they are to defeat and the more XP you get! Also, if you party with someone, you can both share Xp and loot no matter where you two are.
I was learning about the whole Skill / Enchant system and this is how it went.
Someone offered me the Craft Skill ARMOR lvl 1. from there i got the itens i needed to make 6 basic armor pieces. So i crafted them. To craft you need to fight to get "Workload". 5 battles later, i got 6 armor, but i can only "get" them when im level 2. I have the points to BE level 2, but i need to "learn" the next level. So i can purchse from an expecific NPC that skill level, or someone can just teach me. I asked, someone teach me, i won 6 pieces or armor, made 2 friends, got a master, info on 6 new monsters and a Xp boost in the process.
Now, i went for Enchant menu. To enchant you need 2 identical itens and a X number of Enchant stones (they come easy, we have a bunch) put them on the enchant menu... voila. We get +1 +2 +3 Equip. Upgraded the whole party, put everything else on sale (under the rate value. Sold FAST).
Now... once we hit lvl 20, we win 100k FREE. and then, since we have a Mentor, when we hit 30, we get 200k ALSO FREE just for having a mentor. so, we have 300k in cash coming our way, got a few new skills, made easier to defeat a bunch of mobs, and won extra itens just because we interacted with other players... now, that it's what i call innovation!!
things are looking good!
Dont forget to update this thread with Screenshots guys
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Ryong
11-28-2008, 05:24 PM
So, okay, you've made friends. Now we'll have to fake acting like you when we play. This won't end well with ease.
Bells
11-28-2008, 05:40 PM
the only thing i do that could possibily make me look different is that i say thanks to people =P this wont be a problem at all, it's part of the game engine, people do it because if they dont, the game is harder
Osterbaum
11-28-2008, 07:41 PM
I now have the account info and the game installed. I wont be taking any timeslots at the moment though.
Man is this thing a bitch to install.
Ryong
12-01-2008, 04:06 PM
I'll be playing it for a bit today. Grinding time!
Edit: Okay, I play for 15 minutes and someone else tries to connect, DC'ing me. I'm assuming I did the same to them by mistake before.
Magus
12-01-2008, 04:50 PM
Sounds fun! I'll PM one of you when I get the client downloaded.
As for how much I'll do, I'll probably just grind or something until I've figured out exactly how the game works and all that.
Are there any big penalties for dying? I wouldn't want to screw up what's been done so far.
Osterbaum
12-01-2008, 05:58 PM
I might take a go this wednsday somewhere around 14:00 GMT +2 (daylight saving).
Bells
12-01-2008, 06:34 PM
I'll be playing it for a bit today. Grinding time!
Edit: Okay, I play for 15 minutes and someone else tries to connect, DC'ing me. I'm assuming I did the same to them by mistake before.
So sorry mate!! That was me, but i thought it was actually my connection that DC'ed me, im off now and wont pick it up again untill over midnight today, so go ahead!!
Updates:
We are now on a guild.
Why? Because we need, actually. Guild gives us quests, extra XP, communication, itens and options... it's actually necessary to the game. The good news is that i was accepted on one of the Top 5 guilds in the whole server (and it was number 1 for some time...)
From time to time we get extra XP thanks to our City size. Our guild owns Beijing, so we can Teleport to that city at any time for free, just go to the communications tab and pick Guild. You'll see the option "Go to town"
Later own we just might change guilds or make our own if it's profitable for us.
You will also see several NP'c roaming the world... if you have 100% will, you can talk to them and invite them to come to our city. If you do, you can get rare itens, and the city guild gets stronger too...
WE ARE CRAFTING RINGS
Why? Rings are highly valuable, but they are hard to make... we need a LOT of pearls and coral. which i couldnt get as drops yet and arent cheap to buy. If you find were we can get these... get them in bulk and never sell ok?
1 ring can be sold for 8k minimum Easy... better than an armor that can be sold at around 3k if they are really good... also, they give us some nice bonus...
2 of our mercs are Upgraded
We need Ashen Crystals... they are somewhat easy to get, but we need 50 just to upgrade 1 basic merc.... 100 to upgrade the next level! If you find a mob that drops it, gather it.
Right now, our Sword ( Nookie's meatshield ) and our main lancer are both upgraded. they are stronger and i plan to get some extra skills for them later... feel free to do that if you want
What we need
I guess it's about time for us to improve our party, so any of you playing, feel free to pick up a new merc... check the Game Info - Mercenary tab for info on them... right now the best choices are the Shamam (healer) and the monk (buffer).
We need new gear. Our characters are around 25 lvl. 25 is the needed lvl to use the 3rd lvl gear. But only our main uses 2lvl gear. everyone else is still wearing 1st level... the problem is that 3rd lvl gear is VERY expensive and we only get 300k bonus on lvl 30... so we might need some better gear cheap. If you find 2nd lvl gear (the Deep sea set, from blue Boxes) stack them and upgrade them all the way you can... A Lvl 2 gear with +3 bonus is more powerfull than a +1 lvl3 gear. we can do that.
If you guys want to do quests, feel free. But if you just want to gridn, you can leave the quests to me, i dont mind.
Osterbaum
12-02-2008, 05:40 PM
Gonna have to cancel tomorrows playtime for myself.
I vote for getting a shaman.
Bells
12-02-2008, 06:09 PM
i was kinda forced to get one... you see, we're closing on lvl 30, and that's why the mid game kicks in... from here untill Lvl80 it's pure grind and challenge...
But all merc when new come in Lvl1. And in this game you only get Xp with the characters by fightinf with that expecific one... so... since the current mobs werent giving much Xp and the new mobs can kick our ass, i had to get a healer to train her to at least lvl 15...
we still can get more Mercs now, but now it's when we talk about our end game formation.... so, what should we be going for?
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Osterbaum
12-03-2008, 10:03 AM
We need atleat one more longranged character.
Bells
12-03-2008, 10:12 AM
that leaves us with the following options so far
Another Shammam (second healer but the are long ranged, can attack and have "Poison" type of spells, plus, buffs)
Canon : High splash damage
Gun: Same as our own
or a Viking/Axe : I fought against thei Freezing axe in a PVP match, it's a pain! Plus, the always hit 3 targets in the same line (not row)
Ryong
12-06-2008, 04:51 PM
Good news: I leveled some characters up.
Bad news: We're outta those reviving potions. ( I was attacked by three groups of camels tried to run, didn't work >_< )
Bells
12-06-2008, 05:10 PM
Oh man, sorry i shoul've updated the thread...
Yes, we dont have more reviving potions because they stopped working after lvl 30... we can only revive at the hospital in the cities or by buying the new Second level reviving potions...
Im moving up the map to places with worst mobs so we can level up faster... we're gaining too little XP.
Also, never run. It's not worth it. Our guys only make Xp when they kill or hit an enemy, so it's better to go down fighting than to run (either running or dying we loose XP and Cash anyway...)
You can buy those potions in the market or the Hospital if you like, and dont be afraid to use the Travel Agency... it can cost 5k to teleport to a town, but we have 500k in the bank right now...
Also, we have 10 Apprentices. We gain 200k from each when they hit lvl 30 (so it's a clean 3 mil right there). So im randomly sending less needed itens to them via ingame mail... dont bother, only a few ever ask for help and it's mostly regarding info such as "where do i buy stuff" ...
Ryong
12-11-2008, 09:08 PM
I'll be playing this again now. Uni break :D.
...Out of curiosity, who's still playing on the account? Me and Bellsouth? >_<
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