Who knew again?

[POS Industries]

Ganon from Legend of Zelda:
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/happykane.jpg

Ocarina of Time.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/sadkane.png

[Ape Boy]

Mecha-Hitler from Wolfenstein 3D

GUTENTAG!

[GARUD]

Wigglytuff from Pokemon - Explorers of Darkness/Time

Yeah, I don't have a clue

[Zilla]

Mecha-Hitler from Wolfenstein 3D

GUTENTAG!

thread over.

[POS Industries]

thread over.
Haha, no.

Also, shut up.

[Zilla]

ITT: POS hates video games, has no taste.

[Fifthfiend]

That like two-hour final boss fight in Kingdom Hearts II that almost redeemed every other shitty fucking thing in Kingdom Hearts II.

[POS Industries]

Oh good lord, I'm calling this now.

Everything else that everyone suggested - Hi, I almost completely skipped the N64/PSX era (special exception for Star Fox 64) and furthermore never actually owned a system with the name Playstation on it until just last year with the purchase of a PSP. On top of that, there are just certain games and series I never got into. MGS is a prime example of that. Earthbound, too. These are things that I'm actually pretty sure I've mentioned on occasion. Hawk and Celes, though, man... Close calls. Right series, wrong game. Especially Celes. If you'd said Link to the Past instead of Ocarina of Time, you'd have had it won by a long shot.
Mecha-Hitler (Ape Boy) - I was always more of a Doom guy but fuck yeah, Mecha-Hitler.
GLaDOS (Masked Jedi) - Only reason this isn't winning is due to the issue of my not having an opportunity to actually play Portal, either due to not having a computer capable of running it or not having enough spare cash to buy the game once I got a new rig. But the character is fantastic enough.
Hogger (Krylo) - This shouldn't actually be in second place but it is just because it was one of two answers given based on actually knowing anything about me. But yes, the gnarliest gnoll this side of Westfall is the bane of all level 9 humans everywhere.

WINNER: Kefka (Mesden) - Not even close to my favorite fight, but it's at least from a game I both played and enjoyed thoroughly. The music is awesome, the visuals quite nice, but still entirely too quick and easy, even for a turn-based RPG battle. Had he been given a respectable amount of health and magic power so that his different phases actually meant a damn thing, the fight itself would have been infinitely more impressive.


Anyway, yeah, this was sad. Strong contenders would have been Bowser from SMB3, Super Metal Sonic from S&K, several encounters with Dr. Wily or any number of robot masters, the previously mentioned LttP Gannon, Lavos, Darth Malak, or Andross from Star Fox 64, just to name a few off the top of my head.

Any boss from No More Heroes would have been an automatic winner.

[Overcast]

Ahh doubleshit, Malak was my first choice since I'm playing that right now but I didn't have faith in him.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Damn, should've gone with Zeus. It was a tough decision between kicking the shit out of a gigantic Hydra and impaling it through the eye with the mast of a ship, or kicking the living shit out of Zeus, pinning him to a rock, and then sawing him through the chest with a Cloud sized great sword.

The Hydra was just more memorable though.

[POS Industries]

Damn, should've gone with Zeus. It was a tough decision between kicking the shit out of a gigantic Hydra and impaling it through the eye with the mast of a ship, or kicking the living shit out of Zeus, pinning him to a rock, and then sawing him through the chest with a Cloud sized great sword.

The Hydra was just more memorable though.
Actually, my point was that you'd have had better luck going with something from Chains of Olympus, though that all does sound very cool.

Also of note, these fights in Ulduar are a blast, too.

[Ape Boy]

I was thinking of putting Bowser, but I thought it was too easy of a pick. Damnation.

Ah well, at least I wasn't in the tie for last!

[Fifthfiend]

Oh good lord, I'm calling this now.

Everything else that everyone suggested - Hi, I almost completely skipped the N64/PSX era (special exception for Star Fox 64) and furthermore never actually owned a system with the name Playstation on it until just last year with the purchase of a PSP. On top of that, there are just certain games and series I never got into. MGS is a prime example of that. Earthbound, too. These are things that I'm actually pretty sure I've mentioned on occasion. Hawk and Celes, though, man... Close calls. Right series, wrong game. Especially Celes. If you'd said Link to the Past instead of Ocarina of Time, you'd have had it won by a long shot.
Mecha-Hitler (Ape Boy) - I was always more of a Doom guy but fuck yeah, Mecha-Hitler.
GLaDOS (Masked Jedi) - Only reason this isn't winning is due to the issue of my not having an opportunity to actually play Portal, either due to not having a computer capable of running it or not having enough spare cash to buy the game once I got a new rig. But the character is fantastic enough.
Hogger (Krylo) - This shouldn't actually be in second place but it is just because it was one of two answers given based on actually knowing anything about me. But yes, the gnarliest gnoll this side of Westfall is the bane of all level 9 humans everywhere.

WINNER: Kefka (Mesden) - Not even close to my favorite fight, but it's at least from a game I both played and enjoyed thoroughly. The music is awesome, the visuals quite nice, but still entirely too quick and easy, even for a turn-based RPG battle. Had he been given a respectable amount of health and magic power so that his different phases actually meant a damn thing, the fight itself would have been infinitely more impressive.


Anyway, yeah, this was sad. Strong contenders would have been Bowser from SMB3, Super Metal Sonic from S&K, several encounters with Dr. Wily or any number of robot masters, the previously mentioned LttP Gannon, Lavos, Darth Malak, or Andross from Star Fox 64, just to name a few off the top of my head.

Any boss from No More Heroes would have been an automatic winner.

I was gonna say "the unlockable Lavos boss battle in FFVI-2 Xtreme Beach Volleyball" but honestly it felt like walking off with the win.

[POS Industries]

You've been reading my dream journal again, haven't you, Fifth?

[Mesden]

To keep with the vidya game theme:

My favorite thing to do in a videogame.

Edit: I've been informed of the rules but who gives a damn this is a silly little game

[Masked Jedi]

Kill civilains

[POS Industries]

Winning.

[Zilla]

Flying in some fashion. (wing cap, cape, those crazy things they've put in Zelda to help fly, etc.)

[42PETUNIAS]

Breaking the game. Getting off the map, finding some exploit, something of that sort.

[Fenris]

turning it off

[russianreversal]

Finding developers' easter eggs.

[Ape Boy]

Teabagging helpless victims. ...Or willings ones, at that.

Traditionally reserved for Halo, also a lot of fun to hated characters in GTA. Always good for a sophomoric giggle

[Krylo]

Discovering every little nuance so you can get the competitive edge, and then bitching about it.

[Overcast]

Completing a game 100% so that every time you play the game you now feel empty and have to move on to something new.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Pwning some n00bs online.

[Seil]

Complain that Bards get Bragi.

[CelesJessa]

Aw dang. I wasn't sure which Ganon I should have gone with. Seeing that OoT was the most popular one, I decided for that one, but I really was deciding between LttP and OoT


Anyway, Exploring!

[Fifthfiend]

420 SMOKIN WEED EVER DAY

[greed]

Use the funnest weapon, or if you want a specific weapon, a shotgun, they're always fun.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Never play it and then complain about it on the internet.

[Athas]

Driving

[Kerensky287]

Hilarious suicides.

[The Wandering God]

Fight in a tournament of some sort.

The Wandering God

[Mesden]

-92,234i) turning it off

You are just a big ol killjoy.

5) Pwning some n00bs online.

That does have a pretty good appeal.

4) Never play it and then complain about it on the internet.

Probably would've won without the "never play it" part.

3) Winning.

Heh, yeah.

2) 420 SMOKIN WEED EVER DAY

While not about games, it is the single greatest piece of musical art ever made. Thank you, Snoop Dogg, thank you. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNXYXdTR4UY) Specifically the very end. The single greatest clip of our generation, bar none. You would've won if you had actually quoted it correctly as "every" day, and fall to #2 as incorrectly quoting the marvelous Snoop Dogg is not worthy of victory.

1) Discovering every little nuance so you can get the competitive edge, and then bitching about it.

Only picking it because it's right. But damn if it's not funny at all. >:[

gogo Krylo

[Krylo]

Only picking it because it's right. But damn if it's not funny at all. >:[
=D?

gogo Krylo
Hmmm....

Lessee here...

Most irritating thing. Don't name forumers.

[Overcast]

When a group of girls release one mind numbingly high pitched and high volume laugh at something they all find funny that is more than likely you.

[POS Industries]

Broken Social Scene, by K.C. Accidental (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2aCHMf_Ybw)

[Zilla]

The Man

[russianreversal]

Know-it-alls that actually don't have any idea what they're talking about.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Fanboys.

[The Wandering God]

People who refuse to read signs/rules

The Wandering God

[42PETUNIAS]

Assholes on bluetooths.

[Kerensky287]

Caustic soda (aka Sodium Hydroxide).

[Mr.Bookworm]

People who say sorry but don't actually mean it.

(I'm a total hypocrite in this regard.)

[Frostatine]

Atheists that think they know more about every religion than anyone that actually practices that religion.

[Magic_Marker]

Edward Cullen.

[CelesJessa]

People who aren't just upfront about what they think/want and instead give everything sugarcoated and/or expect everything in return to be sugarcoated and to their liking.

Maybe?

[GARUD]

The internet, and this god-forsaken forum

[bluestarultor]

People who can't spell, especially if English is their native language.

[greed]

Atheists that think they know more about every religion than anyone that actually practices that religion.

I so wanna say religion now. I really do.

I'll settle for news networks.

[Fifthfiend]

Religious people who know less about their religion than atheists.

[Krylo]

16) The Wandering God--Himself, again. I said no naming forumers.
15) Corrosive Soda--Kerensky. I... I like soda...
14) Assholes on Bluetooths--42Petunias. No worse than anyone else on a phone, and while this is irritating in certain circumstances, 99% of the time it's fine.
13) People who say they're sorry but don't really mean it--Bookworm. Lies are the grease that lubricates the gears of society.
12) Cullen--Magic Marker. I'm sure it'd annoy me if I dated sixteen year old nerds or ever read the books, but as that neither of those are true for me...
11) Atheists blah blah know it all--Frosty. I haven't met many of these people who DON'T actually know more than most religious folk, but the few I have DO get annoying after awhile.
10) The Man--Zilla. Man, fuck the man! Nah, but seriously, I rarely have run ins, so it's not TOO annoying.
9) News Networks--Greed. Vaguely annoying.
8) I... don't even know--CJ. I'm... not entirely sure what you mean... but you probably mean pussies? In which case, yeah, they're kind of annoying.
7) Annoying Bitch Laughter--Overcast. You would have won if you had narrowed it down to Japanese school girls specifically. I don't know if they receive secret ninja training in sonic attacks or what the fuck, but anime and japanese porn leads me to believe it's ten times worse than anyone over here.
6) This Forum--Garud. Woulda won if I were still an admin/mod.
5) Know-it-alls--RR. Yeah. Pretty annoying.
4) Fanboys--Hawk. ...Mostly I just want to murder them.
3) People who can't spell--Blues. It is irritating trying to read that shit.
2) K.C. Accidental--POS. Woulda won except I can actually avoid that about 99.99% of the time. Case in point--I didn't click that link because I knew what it was.
1) Religious folk who know less about their religion than atheists--Fifthfiend. Really should have added 'militant' to the front, but you take home the win this game.

For the record, though this (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=927082#post927082) woulda won hands down.

Take it away, Fifth.

[The Wandering God]

16) The Wandering God--Himself, again. I said no naming forumers.
Except my answer was "People who refuse to read signs/rules".

The Wandering God

[Zilla]

HAHAHAHAH. Because you "signed" your name there, he thought you were being specific, as in "People who don't read signs/rules (such as) The Wandering God" because by submitting yourself as the candidate, you illustrate that you don't read signs/rules.

Yes, Ted, that was the joke.

[The Wandering God]

HAHAHAHAH. Because you "signed" your name there, he thought you were being specific, as in "People who don't read signs/rules (such as) The Wandering God" because by submitting yourself as the candidate, you illustrate that you don't read signs/rules.

Yes, Ted, that was the joke.
It's hard for me to know the difference's between when's someone's joking with me and when someone's just giving me grief. After all, completely ignoring my actual answer isn't very funny, in my opinion. (But what do I know?)

The Wandering God

[Kerensky287]

15) Corrosive Soda--Kerensky. I... I like soda...

I guess I wasn't too clear in my post - I just googled "powerful irritant" and caustic soda was the first thing that turned up. Wikipedia promptly corrected me by redirecting me to Sodium Hydroxide, but my point was that NaOH is pretty damn irritating no matter who you are.

[Fifthfiend]

Hmmmm.

Let's go with "Favorite terrible movies/TV shows/cartoons/animes".

The ones I love to hate, hate to love, or love to love but Goddamn I should really know better.

[Lumenskir]

Roll Bounce

[Krylo]

Bleach.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Air Gear.

[Masked Jedi]

Troll 2

[Moogle0119]

Rainbow Brite

[GARUD]

I almost wish I could say Chrono Trigger, but thats a game :(

Heroes

[Osterbaum]

One Piece.

[Zilla]

Cromartie High School, live action movie.

[Fifthfiend]

There are some pretty good guesses made so far although I will say that there are better guesses remaining to be made.

[Osterbaum]

A show you filmed with your friend about yourself called 'The Fiend of the Fifth floor' or something.

[POS Industries]

Doug.

[Nikose Tyris]

Captain Planet.

[Fifthfiend]

Cromartie High School, Troll 2: Never seen 'em
One Piece: One Piece is shittacular even relative to completely terrible things. It is terrible in that special way shared by things that set up a specific overarching end goal as it's central premise, which it has no intention of ever fucking reaching or even meaningfully progressing towards. Plus all the other ways in which it is terrible.
Doug: God no I fucking hated that show.
Captain Planet: I think I liked it when I was 10 years old and didn't know any better.
Heroes: Was a show I hated to love, then a show I loved to hate, and now it's a show I just don't watch anymore. You should have gone with Chuck.
Rainbow Brite: Rainbow Brite was awesome fuck you.
Bleach: I totally hate the fuck out of this show but not enough to keep me from watching every episode. That said the longer this series goes on the more it edges over from 'love to hate' to just hate.
Air Gear: Used to be my favorite terrible thing but then I made the mistake of reading the manga which is just fuck-awful incomprehensible gibberish, and that's before President Obama saves the day with his badass Super-Rollerblades skillz and reminds the gang about the meaning of friendship and trying your best after being mind-swapped into the body of a teenage girl.
Roll Bounce: Lil Bow Wow battling it out with that guy I keep misremembering as Jaleel White for the title of Greatest Roller Skater in the Hood. Belongs to that special subgenre of things I like to think of as "Like the Karate Kid, except instead of karate, ___________."

Answers that would have won out over RB include Bad Boys 2, Transporter 2, Transporter 3, Live Free or Die Hard (but note - not the original Die Hard, which was just a straightforwardly excellent movie), Fast and the Furious 3: Tokyo Drift (one of the rare movies that is so shameless about being The Karate Kid except for cars that it actually references its spiritual forbearer), and DOA: Dead or Alive, which may well be the modern pinnacle of excellent terrible moviemaking. Really I have to say you guys left a lot on the table.

Anyway! Lumsie, take it away.

[Lumenskir]

Tokyo Drift was my first choice (based mostly on my love of a character named "Drift King"), but I had never seen Roll Bounce and assumed it was the worst/awesomer movie.

So, my thing is Best visual sequence set to music, although I am going to have to disqualify all fan-made AMVs, because honestly they all just seem like the same random hodgepodge of Naruto clips set to some track from the Protomen. If you can find a Youtube version it would also be helpful.

[greed]

The Ride of the Valkyries sequence from Apocalypse Now. Cause few things are epic and disturbing at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz3Cc7wlfkI

[Professor Smarmiarty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3oHmVhviO8&annotation_id=annotation_798020&feature=iv

The docking scene from 2001 only closely b eating out the opening or some of the scenes from original solaris.

[Nikose Tyris]

Star wars: Death Star Destruction. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TZPcHDwOIo&feature=related)

Because Star Wars is the best music ever and the best movie ever.

[Masked Jedi]

The Ending of Donnie Darko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PUFJmsCZLE)

Warning, there be spoilers here.

[Overcast]

Solla Solla Enna Perumai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLthhTnleso)

I don't expect to win, I'm not even sure I'm qualified. But I figured something completely different can't be bad.

[bluestarultor]

FFX-2's 1000 Words sequence (http://www.veoh.com/search/videos/q/1000+words#watch%3Dv13070877aqjAYrK).

Spoilers here, too. (Almost went for Real Emotion, but, eh.)

[Moogle0119]

The shoot-out scene in Boondock Saints (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff5DlpZiMZ0&feature=related)

[Frostatine]

2001 A space Odyssey opening scene and theme.
Come on, you can't beat it.
here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnmCu3U09w&feature=PlayList&p=54A9ACFD9332B474&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=29)

[Lumenskir]

Some choices here, but Overcast reminded me: Fan made AMV's are instant DQs. However, music videos, fan made music videos, and actual anime scenes set to music are a go.

[GARUD]

Who knew EYEBROWS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVblWq3tDwY&feature=channel_page) could be so entertaining?

[russianreversal]

Who knew EYEBROWS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVblWq3tDwY&feature=channel_page) could be so entertaining? I hate you so much right now.
:shifty:
Anyway, with that addendum in mind, how about something a little more Aerodynamic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VygkoJ4-hhw)?

[Intern Nin]

It's a... it's a savvy kind of feeling! A suave-y kind of feeling! Kind of a... kind of a... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e6cetQBawE)

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

This gunfight from Wanted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAd9hdteAeo&feature=related)

I would've gone with the classic Matrix lobby scene but I use that all the time and it never wins.

[Zilla]

The music video for Knights of Cydonia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sBOsh-vyI&fmt=18)

closely followed by the opening of Cowboy Bebop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6zDfxZ4NcE)

[Lumenskir]

Ok, off of work and ready to grade:

Frostantine and BHS - 2001 - Nope and nope. Which is not to say the music is bad (Thus Spoke Zarathustra itself has been used to great effect in WALL-E and Being There) but Kubrick is great at sucking the life out of things.
Zilla - Muse - Meh.
greed - Apocalypse Now - I've never really been moved one way or the other with film depictions of Vietnam, and this is no exception.
Moogle0019 - Boondock Saints - Sometimes I wonder if I'm missing anything by avoiding this movie. Then I see clips like this and fully enjoy my decision.
bluestarultor - FFX-2 - I actually enjoyed the game, but I really hated having to sit through song while something actually interesting was occurring.
Masked Jedi - Donnie Darko - I'm going to be honest, you would probably have gotten nearer to the top if you'd used the batshit Killers scene from Southland Tales. I have good drinking memories from ST, but all I ever remember from DD is a stoner kid from freshmen year explaining all the 'intricacies' of the time travel and how boring Gary Jules is.
Hawk - Wanted - I also actually liked Wanted for being so shamelessly retarded, but that doesn't excuse going to the well of generic metal for shootemup scenes.
Nikose - Star Wars - While I don't necessarily agree with the lengths of love you possess, it is a fun, great scene.
GARUD - Eyebrows - A fun commercial, and yet you were so close to a potential insta-winner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-alMtKXyQ&feature=related) that it almost pained me.
Intern Nin - The Tick - Very fun, makes me kind of wonder what else I've been missing since the Tick never seemed to actually play on TV where I was.
russianreversal - Daft Punk - Is that from that, wossitcalled, Interstellar 666 'movie' they did, or is it something else? Either way it's Daft Punk, although you might have snatched the top spot if you went with one of their other music videos, especially the always fun Around the World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0HSD_i2DvA).
Overcast - Solla Solla Enna Perumai - Man, I don't know why you were unsure, that clip is gold. I especially like how, even though everyone seems to be enjoying the fuck out of the experience, the woman in the green dress just seems beside herself.

Other insta-winners would have been Murder Train (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytoOaTunFzs), any of the Moral Orel segments set to Mountain Goats or A.C. Newman, music videos from bands/songs I actually like.

So, Overcast, it's yours.

[Zilla]

Woah, you may not like Muse, but watch the video!!! You obviously didn't have time to watch it because I watched it after I linked it, and you wrote that post in the meantime.

[Masked Jedi]

Goddammit fucking shit!

My first thought was the Killers scene, but then I was all like Oh wait Lumenskir doesn't appreciate great cinema and therefore doesn't like Southland Tales unironically so that prolly won't win maybe I should just go with the Donnie Darko scene everyone likes that.

Honestly, it seems like every 5 seconds someone at my school sits down and plays that particular version of Mad World (which was written for the movie) on the piano and maybe 5 of them have actually seen it.

FUCK!

[/rant]

[Lumenskir]

Woah, you may not like Muse, but watch the video!!! You obviously didn't have time to watch it because I watched it after I linked it, and you wrote that post in the meantime.
Or, you know, have seen it before since it was originally created, and after checking it seems like they didn't change anything, so verdict stands.

And MJ, always go with your gut. I mean, I've always been very vocal about enjoying ST, just not liking it.

Which reminds me, any of the sex scenes from The Room, set to bargain bin soft R&B, would also have been great contenders, but would have also violated NPF's decency clauses.

[Zilla]

On further review, looking at your list, you have strange taste.

[Overcast]

Surprisingly I saw that video for the first time on this website, quite an amusing thing. If I remember a part of it used to be Mesden's avatar.

At any rate moving on.

Favorite artist.

I'll leave that generic to see how far the branches reach.

[Mr.Bookworm]

M.C. Escher.

I can't think of anything else, so I'll go with Escher.

[Masked Jedi]

Will Eisner

[bluestarultor]

Daft Punk. (= musical artist)

[42PETUNIAS]

Nero.

[Ape Boy]

Well, if musical arts are being considered, then I'd have to go with John Coltrane.

[POS Industries]

Phil Hansen.

[GARUD]

Brian Clevinger?

Hey, it's worth a shot.

[Kerensky287]

Hmm... Peachi? (http://hiimdaisy.livejournal.com/25547.html)

I don't know artists.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Ok, off of work and ready to grade:

Frostantine and BHS - 2001 - Nope and nope. Which is not to say the music is bad (Thus Spoke Zarathustra itself has been used to great effect in WALL-E and Being There) but Kubrick is great at sucking the life out of things.


Like seriously, WTF? Two middling, forgettable films use this music better than one of the all-time greats of filmmaking, a title which it gained mostly through it's use of music????


Also my answer: Andy Warhol.

[CelesJessa]

Monet. (http://www.reproarte.com/files/images/M/monet_claude/monet_seerosenteich_dia.jpg) Everyone lots Monet. Except my painting professor, what's up with that?

[POS Industries]

one of the all-time greats of filmmaking
I think I just threw up a little.

Why do people keep thinking this is true? The man was the hackiest hack that ever hacked and his movies were only any good by virtue of the actors performances alone and anything involved in Kubrick's "direction" not only detracted immensely from the quality of the films but distractingly so.

I swear, the last time I watched The Shining I had to go outside and bang my head against a tree for a couple minutes because the experience was so agonizing. I only wish I were making that up.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I think I just threw up a little.

Why do people keep thinking this is true? The man was the hackiest hack that ever hacked and his movies were only any good by virtue of the actors performances alone and anything involved in Kubrick's "direction" not only detracted immensely from the quality of the films but distractingly so.

I swear, the last time I watched The Shining I had to go outside and bang my head against a tree for a couple minutes because the experience was so agonizing. I only wish I were making that up.

Well he's not one of my favourite directors and I hated some of his films (Full Metal Jacket and Clockwork Orange in particular) he's not a terrible director by any stretch and his films are generally better than average. I wouldn't personally put 2001 on my top films list but it is on many peoples and is an important cinema icon. I overexaggerated a bit but it was warranted by comparing him to formulaic knockoffs.
Really his key achievement was bringing together the crazy visual style of experimental German cinema with the playful love of music of French cinema so that they got more exposure than a few friends down at your local theatre. I am a little hypocritical in that I hate movies like Fight Club for being dumbed down arthouse when Kubrick is similar but eh.
I can see your point in say, Dr Strangelove, which didn't benefit from Kubrick's style and was really actor driven but I don't see how the rest of them were hurt by Kubrick's style. Because really pretty much all of his films would be incredibly, incredibly boring without Kubrick, especially 2001 and the Shining. They made other adaptions of the Shining and holy fuck were they bad.
I'm not really sure how he was impairing the quality of his films when the entirety of most of his films was pretty much Kubrick being Kubrick. There is no underlying quality to any of them and any worth they have as movies is purely out of filmographic interest in the composition of the piece.
It really depends on what you watching movies for, in that Kubrick liked technical harmony over aesthetic quality whereas most movies are the opposite. It's kind of like Wavelength versus Star Wars, both have thier merit but are completely different.

[Lumenskir]

I think my main problem with Kubrick is that he was an avowed, out-and-out, anti-humanist and delightfully (for lack of a better descriptor) allowed that to seep into every pore of his movies. I mean, in a behind-the-curtain way I can appreciate that he was a guy extremely dedicated to his craft and slavish personal standards, but what he ended up producing was still infused with so much of his personal sentiment, a sentiment I just can't get behind, that watching his movies is a slog.

Uhm...oh yeah, the game...uhm...Banksy?

[POS Industries]

They made other adaptions of the Shining and holy fuck were they bad.
The only one I know of was a made-for-TV movie starring Steven Weber, which of course would be terrible because it was a made-for-TV movie starring Steven Weber.

But really, I disagree on the notion that Kubrick's films would have been really really boring without Kubrick because he was the one actually making them really really boring. There's this thing with pacing that he likes to do wherein he has his actors talk... as slowly... as.... possible... so as to.... draw out... an hour and a.... half... script to.... three.....

....

.......

............

...hoursHOSHITZANYVISUALSEQUENCEWITHBOMBASTICMUSIC

I mean, honestly, if you want a demonstration of pure, undistilled Kubrick in action without the crutch of a totally great cast, check out Eyes Wide Shut or like the first three quarters of A.I. before Spielberg got ahold of it and made it even worse.

[Osterbaum]

All of that stuff is a matter of opinion anyways.

My guess is Bob Dylan, since we're doing musical artists also.

[russianreversal]

russianreversal - Daft Punk - Is that from that, wossitcalled, Interstellar 666 'movie' they did :D It's Interstella 5555, but yeah. Around the World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0HSD_i2DvA). What. The. Fuck.

Anyway, my guess would be Raphael. High Renaissance painter or sai wielding, masked vigilante turtle, the distinction is yours. (Hey, ever notice how you never saw the two in the same room together...?)

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I mean, honestly, if you want a demonstration of pure, undistilled Kubrick in action without the crutch of a totally great cast, check out Eyes Wide Shut or like the first three quarters of A.I. before Spielberg got ahold of it and made it even worse.

I will admit I haven't seen either of these films, mostly because pretty much everyone said they were terrible.

[The Wizard Who Did It]

Salvador Dali

[Rejected Again]

Lets see. I'm going with DaVinchi

[Zilla]

For the good of the thread, I declare Mr. Bookworm winner for M.C. Escher. It's been too long.

[Overcast]

Hey now I meant to see a bit more, now let me be the decider here!

~To start at the bottom is Andy Warhol. I do not appreciate his work, I do not appreciate the artistic movement associated with his work. I truly do not like him at all.
~Then musical people, not because I dislike your choices it is just since you are the minority you are auto-shot. Though know I like all of them more than Andy Warhol
~Next up is Peachi and Brian Clevinger, they have art I can appreciate and little lines of humor I love dearly but I shall put them here since I have to put them as comic artists.
~Eisner, I do love the work he does but to be fair to both Peachi and Clevinger I can only put him one above them and still feel honest.
~Hansen, here we hit the honest stuff, I do enjoy what Hansen does, but he is not my favorite I must say.
~Raphael and Da Vinci, to be an honest man I must tie them, I do enjoy staring at their work from time to time, but not my favorite.
~Escher, the strange paradoxical paintings are enough to boggle the mind, and they attract my attention in a very surreal way. I do love it so.
~Monet, not much takes my breath away like a landscape. Sometimes I sit about and stare at my own for hours, so it isn't surprising Monet would be a good creature in my head.
~Banksy, my love of graff and guerrilla art are absolutely killer. I love Banksy for his antics and his art, which while I prefer his street work to his indoor stuff, he is definitely one of my favorites.

WINNER~Dali. Surreal art, I do love it like a dream, staring through his works is like a wondrous thing. I can spend all day looking through it, and at the end of the day if I am sitting in chronology I can watch his transformation and work, and even the eventual soul crushing loss of his sexual love that would remove his muse till the day he died. He is my personal favorite. Quite a good choice!

Take it Wizard!

[POS Industries]

For the good of the thread, I declare Mr. Bookworm winner for M.C. Escher. It's been too long.
It's a good thing you don't have any say in the matter then, isn't it?

[Fifthfiend]

~Next up is Peachi and Brian Clevinger, they have art I can appreciate and little lines of humor I love dearly but I shall put them here since I have to put them as comic artists.
~Eisner, I do love the work he does but to be fair to both Peachi and Clevinger I can only put him one above them and still feel honest.

I wish I'd submitted Bill Watterson so you could put them with these guys at the bottom of your list and I could hate you for it.

[Overcast]

Oh I do too fifth, I do too.

[The Wizard Who Did It]

Quite a good choice!
About two years ago he was the guy who actually made me want to start view art galleries. Damn right it's a good choice!
Take it Wizard!
Guess my Favorite Fictional Character!

[Zilla]

Sarda

[bluestarultor]

Red Mage.

[42PETUNIAS]

Obvious answer.

Dr. Manhatten?

[Rejected Again]

Richard Rhal

[Professor Smarmiarty]

The goddamn Batman.

[Lumenskir]

Sokka

[Masked Jedi]

Kamina

[Moogle0119]

Spider-man

[POS Industries]

V (from OOTS)

[Mr.Bookworm]

Merlin

[Intern Nin]

CyberSix

[The Wizard Who Did It]

It's fun thinking about the method people are using to make their guesses (other than using their own favorite character, I mean).

[The Wandering God]

Vivi from Final Fantasy IX

The Wandering God

[Masked Jedi]

Changing my answer: Sarda

[POS Industries]

Changing my answer: Sarda
You can't change it to Sarda.

[Masked Jedi]

Dammit, you're right. Staying with Kamina.

[Overcast]

Cuthulu?

[Ape Boy]

Ummmmm, doing the same math as everyone else, let's say Severus Snape.

[GARUD]

Imma guess -

Heath Ledger's "Joker"

[Melfice]

Grimlock is my guess.

[Fenris]

Viper Daimao

[Kerensky287]

Santa Claus.

[The Wizard Who Did It]

Oy that's a lot... EDIT: And I should have read the first post that I only had to care about the first 5.:sweatdrop


17./18. Viper Daimao/Santa Claus: No.

14./15./16. Grimlock/Richard Rhal/CyberSix: Never heard of them!

12./13. Red Mage/Sarda: Static, they are only amusing as part of the ensemble (my name is mostly based around the attitude behind the title, not the character).

11. Cuthulu (spelling?): Never read the books, but I can get behind the concept a little.

10. Merlin: I know there's some awesome book with him in it, but the only reference I have for him is the Disney Movie and some memories of the legend. He gets placed here only because I loved that movie as a kid!

9. Severus Snape: If he was in better books (or the hands of a better writer) I might care more. As is, he's okay!

8. Vivi: He's adorable, powerful, and has interesting struggles, but he never attached to me as much as others.

7. Spiderman: He has interesting and has funny quips, but I feel stronger for other characters on this list.

6. Batman: No, I'm not a great Batman fan. He's awesome and a genius, but eh.

5. Sokka: Badass Normal (without being ridiculously overboard) and funny.

4. Dr. Manhattan: Good guess, but I just like the quote! He's a powerful character that's chained by fate, but it's a dick to relate to him.

3. Kamina: The epitome of a determinator and a complete and utter badass, but there's stronger candidates.

2. V: Perfect candidate for the merits and failings of the ego.

1. Joker: Ah sociopaths. By their very existence they call into question society's ethical presumptions. The mania, humanity, and tragedy encapsulated by the Joker resonates strongly, to the extent that he essentially pulled the entire movie. You think it's hard to feel for a mass murderer with no morals until you come across a well-written one!


Just as a note, Ender would have been an instant win.


Take it away Garud!

[GARUD]

Rule of thumb, when someone asks a question that relates to favourite/best of something, and Ledger's Joker is a viable answer, its right. Always.

Anyway, my turn. What are my three favourite Pokemon? And by that, I mean the top 3. Order is important too, so it's not just a matter of listing them.

And to make it easier for you, LUVDISC is an instant fail.

[Ape Boy]

Ledger did a great Joker, about as close to the source material as can be, but I think The Joker's entire body of work trumps that one particular portrayal, which is why I support re-casting the role and letting a Hollywood A-Lister act their balls off to try and match the performance. The Joker himself is more important than Heath as The Joker.

Back on topic: Mr. Mime, Igglybuff, and Magikarp.

... I know next to nothing of Pokemon, so I literally just looked up the lamest ones.

[POS Industries]

Houndoom, Charizard, Missingno.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Squirtle, Bulbasaur, Charmander.
Fuck everything you don't get in the first minute of the first game.

[Melfice]

1) Garchomp
2) Salamence
3) Gyarados

[Nikose Tyris]

1) Pichu
2) Wynaut
3) Uxie

This is now a competition for last place.

[Zilla]

Mudkip
Bidoof
Heath Ledger as Joker
Psyduck
Snorlax (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na0mYSFPoCU)
Articuno

[Mr.Bookworm]

Let's get classic on this bitch.

Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno.

[Overcast]

Hmm I shall base it off of my favorite memories from the animation.

Butterfree(The "Bye-Bye Butterfree" episode made me cry like a little girl when I first saw it.)
Haunter(Between "The Tower of Terror" and "Haunter vs. Kadabra" I found him hilarious.)
Jigglypuff(Every appearance is amusing, such that you wait for the next time everyone will fall asleep and get drawn on angrily.)

[42PETUNIAS]

seaking
Seaking
SEAKING
http://www.zetzio.com/wp-content/uploads/seaking.gif

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I don't care who wins as long as 42petunias loses.

[42PETUNIAS]

I don't care who wins as long as 42petunias loses.

http://www.pleaselink.me/_/myconfinedspace/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/fuck-yeah-seaking2-500x508.jpg

[Rejected Again]

Hitmonchan
Scyther
Ninetails

1st game = best

[russianreversal]

Skarmory
Dragonair
Sandslash
All quiet, powerful and dignified pokemon.

On another note, why does japan think mice look like anteaters? Cyndaquil is classified as a "mouse" pokemon.

EDIT: 42, that's my background. XD

[The Wizard Who Did It]

Might as well go with the best (and most powerful) from the best season.

1. Dugtrio (lightspeed movement with almost instant acceleration could one shot every single pokemon, and this is 3 of those things!)
2. Mewtwo (psychic, the best type, and completely badass)
3. Gyarados (just don't fight anything with a lightning type attack)

[greed]

Charizard
Ferligatr
Torterra

[CelesJessa]

As I stopped paying attention to Pokemon after they added 8-million more, my guesses will be pretty old school.

1. Raichu
2. Gyarados
3. Mew

[Fifthfiend]

The stupid one
The ugly one
The bullshit one

[Mr.Bookworm]

The stupid oneMagikarp
The ugly oneMagikarp
The bullshit oneMagikarp

FTFY

[bluestarultor]

Eevee
Porygon
Scyther

[GARUD]

Okay, time to call the results

POS - Houndoom, Charizard, Missingno - Yeah, you're last place. 2 guys that I think suck and the last ruined my game. And I hate Dark types too, so Houndoom is a phail!
42Petunias - Seaking - I like him better than the 3 above combined, but that's really not saying much. I wouldn't use him.
Melfice - Garchomp, Salamance, Gyarados - Garchomp is an instant fail to me. the other two stopped you from being last place though.
Overcast - Butterfree, Haunter, Jigglypuff - While these were good anime moments, I raised a Butterfree to level 76 before I realised it wasn't worth shit. And now I hate them.
Fifthfiend - I'm sorry, your answer would cover pretty much every single pokemon. And alot of the forumers too.
Nikose Tyris - Pichu, Wynaut, Uxie - Sorry, but I like Uxie enough to put you above Fifthfiend. Don't you feel special?
Ape Boy - Mr Mime, Igglybuff and Magikarp - I do actually like Magikarp and Mr Mime is a psychic type, which is always a plus in my book. But I'm pretty sure you knew that they weren't going to win.
RA - Hitmonchan, Scyther, Ninetales - I like Mr Boxing well enough, but not enough to use him. Ninetales is one of my favourite fire types though :P
Bluestarultor - Eevee, Porygon, Scyther - Not a fan of Scyther, but I don't mind some of the Eeveelutions, and Porygon is awesome. You would have done better mentioning Vaporeon and Porygon-Z instead
Greed - Charizard, Feraligatr, Torterra - Torterra is all sorts of awesome, and i don't mind mr 2-legged aligator. Would have been higher, but Charizard drags you down, especially for being first listed.
CJ - Raichu, Gyarados, Mew - Well Raichu is not very high list. Gyarados is awesome though. And Mew, the most famous and one of the most popular pokemon EVER! so answer me this. WHY THE FUCK WEREN'T YOU IN THE GAME?


Ok, top 5
5)RR - Skarmory, Dragonair, Sandslash - Very honest, pokemon I don't mind. but they aren't my faves
4)Smarty Mac - Squirtle, Charmander, Bulbasaur - you got 4th, because you listed Bulbasaur last instead of first, and you didn't list him as Venasaur. But I still like the three, but Charmander is shit later >_>
3)Zylla - Psyduck, Snorlax, Articuno - Snorlax can hold 10 fucking pokemon, can you hold 10 fucking pokemon, I don't think so! :P
2) Mr Bookworm - Zapdos, Articuno, Moltres - You get second place for listing 3 of the legendaries I like so much, but only Zapdos breaks the Top 12 for me, and that's why you get 2nd place.
1) Twiddy - Dugtrio, Mewtwo, Gyarados - As being the only one to even get one of my top 3 right, you win by default, but you are miles ahead of everyone else. And Mewtwo is still, even in 4th gen, the rabidly powerful beast that few can stop. I like Dugtrio and Gyarados though

Any answer with Mewtwo, Alakazam and Venasaur it the first place would have won, and and the best possible answer would have been those 3 in that order. People that went old-school were on the right track. Machamp and Magmortar would have been serious contenders also.

And anyone that didn't beat Fifthfiend's entry should be ashamed, you don't know me at all, and you wont be POKEMON MASTERS! >_>

Congrats Twiddy, next one is yours.

[POS Industries]

And I hate Dark types too, so Houndoom is a phail!
And no wonder! It would obliterate your top three single-handedly!

[The Wizard Who Did It]

Lucky I'm up late doing nothing. And I'm still pissed that Mewtwo got kicked out of Brawl!

In any case, What is my Favorite Quote?

EDIT: Yeah I just realized, nobody post my sig quote (GARUD!). It's not an instawin by any means, I just don't want someone's guess to be destroyed by false assumptions (well at least, not by that false assumption).

[GARUD]

And no wonder! It would obliterate your top three single-handedly!

Actually, Aura Sphere or Surf from Mewtwo 1HKO's Houndoom, Alakazam 1HKO's with Focus Blast or Signal Beam, and Venasaur 1HKO's with Earthquake. Houndoom's not great, but I hate the Dark Types because they were brought in to nerf the psychics.

EDIT2: Not allowed to use the sig for an answer, so I've removed it and put a new answer later

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Man I totally wanted to go Venusaur cause he cool but I had a pattern going.

[Melfice]

Any answer with Mewtwo, Alakazam and Venasaur it the first place would have won, and and the best possible answer would have been those 3 in that order. People that went old-school were on the right track. Machamp and Magmortar would have been serious contenders also.

Machamp and Magmortar would have been serious contenders
Magmortar would have been
Magmortar

Yeah, okay.
No.
Magmortar looks like shit, and is an abomination upon Magmar.
Your game license just got revoked.
Sorry!

EDIT:
English, motherfucker, do you speak it?

[GARUD]

Yeah, okay.
No.
Magmortar looks like shit, and is an abomination upon Magmar.
Your game license just got revoked.
Sorry!

Actually, I hate how he looks too, but the evolution at least makes him a contender in the UU tier, and usable in the OU tier. I'm willing to accept his uglyness, don't be so quick to judge.

EDIT: Does that mean I have to get a different answer?

I'll try this one then:

V for Vendetta

Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.
The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.
Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.

[The Wandering God]

"Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

The Wandering God

[Rejected Again]

Fuckin'- What the fuckin'. Fuck. Who the fuck fucked this fucking... How did you two fucking fucks..FUCK!~~David Della Rocco

[Ape Boy]

"For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life... But for me, it was Tuesday."

-General M. Bison

[Overcast]

"Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?"
~Wayne Brady

[Moogle0119]

"Get to da choppa!" - Predator

[bluestarultor]

"The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits." - Albert Einstein

[42PETUNIAS]

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKzM8xsQ5-U) (1:15-3:00) is like one long quote, does it count?

If not, just this part.

And Shepherds we shall be

For thee, my Lord, for thee.

Power hath descended forth from Thy hand

Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands.

So we shall flow a river forth to Thee

And teeming with souls shall it ever be.

In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti."

[Fifthfiend]

Mewtwo, Alakazam and Venasaur

My guess was plainly the winner.

Anyway, going for the low-hanging fruit here:

"I, gentlemen, am Sarda, and that makes me the wizard who did it!"

[CelesJessa]

Discworld for the win?

"You're dead," he said. Keli waited. She couldn't think of any suitable reply. "I'm not" lacked a certain style, while "Is it serious?" seemed somehow too frivolous.

[Melfice]

I hate 42 and Celes for thinking of something I should have thought of.

Good quotes.
Though I would've gone with the Silver Horde and the ninja, if I'd thought of it.

[POS Industries]

Actually, Aura Sphere or Surf from Mewtwo 1HKO's Houndoom, Alakazam 1HKO's with Focus Blast or Signal Beam, and Venasaur 1HKO's with Earthquake. Houndoom's not great, but I hate the Dark Types because they were brought in to nerf the psychics.
1) Venusaur is entirely too slow to avoid being 1HKO'd by Fire Blast.

2) Mewtwo can't learn surf in any generation, what the fuck are you talking about?

3) Fuck any post-Gen II moves or the games they're in, anyway.

In conclusion, Houndoom is a totally great pokemon with solid speed and physical attack power as well as a neat visual aesthetic and you're just mad that psychics aren't completely unstoppable anymore.

[Kerensky287]

"Ogres are... like onions!"
"They stink?"
"Ye- NO!"
"Or... they make you cry?"
"No!"
"Oh, you leave'em out in the sun, they get all brown and start sprouting little white hairs?"

-Shrek

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

This thread needs more Sun Tzu, and I always liked this one;

"All warfare is based on deception."

[Osterbaum]

"Timmy is made of meat. Your whole family is made out of meat."

[Zilla]

"What are you, president of his fan club?"
"No, that would be your mother."
*lays folder full of lewd photographs on table.
"I.. ah... *shocked expressions*"
"And now he's come to f*ck US!"



Also, I was SO going to put Alakazam on there instead of Articuno, and then I was so going to put Zapdos there instead of Articuno. :/

[Masked Jedi]

"You are in Eastern Pain Time, and it is Dan-o-Clock."

[russianreversal]

"Screw the rules, I have money!" -Seto Kaiba, Yu-Gi-Oh: The Abridged Series

[Intern Nin]

"It's a hundred and six miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it."

[Zilla]

"You are in Eastern Pain Time, and it is Dan-o-Clock."

Is this an obscure LoR reference? It sounds like something Dan would say, specifically in the strip where others are groaning about his machismo.

edit: wrong webcomic (http://dandavis.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/it-is-dan-oclock1.png)

[Seil]

Lucy Lawless: A wizard did it.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Long one:

"There's this passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you." I been saying that shit for years. And if you heard it, that meant your ass. I never gave much thought to what it meant. I just thought it was some cold-blooded shit to say to a motherfucker 'fore I popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some shit this mornin' made me think different. See, now I'm thinking, maybe it means you're the evil man, and I'm the righteous man, and Mr. 9mm here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or, it could mean you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that shit ain't the truth. The truth is, you're the weak, and I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd."

Pulp Fiction, of course.

[Nikose Tyris]

"but, our shenanigans are cheeky and fun, yeah, his shenanigans are cruel and tragic. which makes them not shenanigans at all. Evil shenanigans..."
"I swear to god I'll pistol whip the next guy who says shenanigans!"
"Hey Farva, what's the name of that restaurant you like, with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?"
"You mean shenanigans? You're talking about Shenanigans right?"

- From Super Troopers

[The Wizard Who Did It]

Usually, quotes by real people seem to have greater strength and meaning behind them. And if you have to be fictional, you can never go wrong with lessons by Kreia! That said, this time (with great effort, I assure you) I won't comment on all 21 quotes.

And the instawin would've been "We are each angels with one wing, and we can only fly by embracing each other." Or any of its MULTIPLE different rewordings.

Now here's an honorary mention for last place!
I, gentlemen, am Sarda, and that makes me the wizard who did it!
The number of 8-Bit Theater quotes better than this one is about equal to its number of comics. Get the fuck out of my office.

5.
"You're dead," he said. Keli waited. She couldn't think of any suitable reply. "I'm not" lacked a certain style, while "Is it serious?" seemed somehow too frivolous.
Pratchett has the best writing style in existence. Somehow that doesn't equate to having the best quotes, at least in my eye.

4.
Timmy is made of meat. Your whole family is made out of meat.
Most of these quotes are funny and I've more or less forgot about them. This is just about the only one that made me laugh out loud after seeing the original source.

3.
MONOLOGUE!
You have to love introspective drivel. Okay, you don't, but I do.

2.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.
Hahahaha, so true!

1.
All warfare is based on deception.
And with all the practical applications behind understanding warfare, the applications, depth, and meaning behind this statement is astronomical.

Hawk, you're hired.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Yes, Sun Tzu for the win!

Let's see now, what can we do? How about;

Favourite song/musical composition.

[The Wandering God]

Still Alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI)

The song sung during the end credits of Portal.

The Wandering God

[POS Industries]

Kamelot - Center of the Universe.

[Osterbaum]

Damn. I knew I should've gone with "He who tries to defend everything, defends nothing." As for the current round, I have absolutely no idea so this is purely a guess:

Bob Dylan - The Times They Are a Changin'.

[CelesJessa]

Going the nerdy route with Scars of Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B97Ir8Q7e0) (aka opening to Chrono Cross)

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Bohemian Raphsody

[Mr.Bookworm]

I've been obsessed with this song lately.

Rime of the Ancient Mariner - Iron Maiden

[Overcast]

No Children - The Mountain Goats.

[Rejected Again]

DAMN YOU SMB!

Um.... Ludwig van Beethoven's Ninth Symphony

[Ape Boy]

I think any momentous occasion without Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" is that much less impressive, so I'll go with that.

[42PETUNIAS]

Free Bird.

[bluestarultor]

KSE's cover of Holy Diver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaqxDbsKgTo).

[Zilla]

DAMN YOU SMB!

Um.... Ludwig van Beethoven's Ninth Symphony

I think any momentous occasion without Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" is that much less impressive, so I'll go with that.

There is no way this was unintentional.

[Ape Boy]

You're right. I'm confirming/backing-up RejAg's suggestion, because I've got wood for that piece right now.

[POS Industries]

I've been obsessed with this song lately.
I've got wood for that piece right now.
Just thought it might help to note the fatal flaw in how most people are playing this game.

[Melfice]

The Ride of the Valkyries.

[Nikose Tyris]

Shiny Toy Guns' Rendition of "Major Tom" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW0_kTYvARc&feature=channel_page)

[Ravashak]

Hyadain's remix of a FF4 boss theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=C8vz186pjY0)

[Ape Boy]

Just thought it might help to note the fatal flaw in how most people are playing this game.

Meh, I've never once picked what I thought the other person would like. I've always picked what I thought was awesome and went with it. Has worked more than a few times.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Right, calling it now, and seeing as there were a few on here that I've never actually heard, I decided to youtube them all for a proper judging. Here goes;

13)Ravashak - FF4 Boss thingy- I don't know what that was, but it was truly terrible. Not since Pandemonic Hyperblast have I heard such awful noise.
12 & 13)Rejected Again and Ape Boy - Grouping both these suggestions together, because I can't stand most classical music, especially these Beethoven suggestions. It's like kryptonite to me.
11)Osterbaum - The Times They Are a changin - I really don't like Bob Dylan.
10)Nikose - Major Tom Remix thing - Didn't like the original version, don't like this one any better.
9)Overcast - No Children - Odd song, and not a very good one.
8)Melfice - Ride of the Valkyries - Perhaps the only classical track that defies the above rule. However it's WAY over-used and I'm sick of hearing it.
7)CJ - Scars of Time - Had I been a fan of Chrono, this may have rated higher. It's ok, but if you were gona go with the intro music to a Square game, you'd have had more luck with Otherworld from FFX.
6)bluestarultor - Holy Diver - Well, we're getting closer to my prefered genre, but there are many better metal and rock tracks out there. Such as those below.
5)Bookworm - Rime of the Ancient Mariner - You know, I've never really listened to any Iron Maiden, and after listening to that, I wonder why. It's pretty good.
4)SMB - Bohemian Rhapsody - The only song that makes me groan when it first starts playing, but by the end has everyone in earshot rockin' out to the awesome. Great song.
3)42 - Freebird - It was close with Bohemian this one, but this just edges the win. Gota love that solo.
2)The Wandering God - Still Alive - Yeah, I'm a nerd, and you all knew this was gona be high up, but who doesn't like this song?
1)POS - Center of the Universe - Not only is this the out-right winner on this list, but is also an out-right insta-win. I sense POS did some back checking on my posts in the music thread. I would've also accepted Wings of Despair as an instant win.

Although really, anything from Kamelot would've beat everything else on this list.

POS, the game is yours.

[POS Industries]

I sense POS did some back checking on my posts in the music thread.
Totally. I do my best to at least attempt to come up with a fitting answer for the person involved, and doing some back checking is a totally great and perfectly legal way to accomplish it. Kinda fell apart with Garud since I decided to go with something more related to his demon hunter thing he tends to RP as rather than realize that he goes more for stats than anything. Live and learn. Regardless, it's probably something a lot of others should start trying to do in this game, you know?

Anyway, moving on, I think I'm going to just go ahead and nerd the fuck out:

Favorite ship design in Star Trek, Federation or otherwise.

[Krylo]

Ferengi Shuttle.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Defiant Class.

[Fifthfiend]

Romulan Bird of Prey.

[Osterbaum]

Totally. I do my best to at least attempt to come up with a fitting answer for the person involved, and doing some back checking is a totally great and perfectly legal way to accomplish it. Kinda fell apart with Garud since I decided to go with something more related to his demon hunter thing he tends to RP as rather than realize that he goes more for stats than anything. Live and learn. Regardless, it's probably something a lot of others should start trying to do in this game, you know?
Oh, well won't you look at Mr. "I take these things seriosly". You've got a point though.

Anyway, my guess is a Romulan mining ship. Hell, I tried research but I'm too tired and know too little about Star Trek.

EDIT: I'm not sure that's a valid answer, but I couldn't find any specific Romulan mining-ship design.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Yeah my guessing is based on two things
1) General impressions of persons just from general forum activity
2) The opposite of what my answer would be cause everyone on here has shocking taste.
Maybe I should start post digging. We'll see if I'm too lazy or not.

[Overcast]

Meh it is a game, it isn't a rule to try. Besides if someone puts up a topic you can win by checking their history I don't want to win it anyway. It turns it into a competition of quick eyes and fingers rather than a game of people yelling answers at a computer and hoping someone yells back. In other words it ain't fun.

K't'inga-class Battle Cruiser

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Yeah well I do have fun guessing off little info I have so it's all cool either way for me.

[Krylo]

Yeah my guessing is based on two things
1) General impressions of persons just from general forum activity
2) The opposite of what my answer would be cause everyone on here has shocking taste.
Maybe I should start post digging. We'll see if I'm too lazy or not.

This is basically what I do, except I try to pick the wrong thing, except for when I think the right thing would be funnier (Mesden, for example).

[Osterbaum]

Meh it is a game, it isn't a rule to try. Besides if someone puts up a topic you can win by checking their history I don't want to win it anyway. It turns it into a competition of quick eyes and fingers rather than a game of people yelling answers at a computer and hoping someone yells back. In other words it ain't fun.
It could be argued which of the two options is actually more fun.

[The Wizard Who Did It]

Regardless, it's probably something a lot of others should start trying to do in this game, you know?
I find it hilarious when people try to do this the incredibly lazy way. I knew it was going to happen, but I still laughed out loud at the Sarda/Dr. Manhattan related answers to my questions.
Favorite ship design in Star Trek, Federation or otherwise.
I don't know anything about Star Trek, so let's see how far random guessing gets me.

...

Excelsior class starship?

[Overcast]

I figure it can be argued to the population at large. Though it can't really be argued to myself. After all I do find this very fun.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Anyway, to the question at hand...

Well, seeing as the Bird of Prey is out and I can't be bothered checking what class Voyager is I'll just go with the Borg Cube. Gota love the simplicity.

[POS Industries]

Meh it is a game, it isn't a rule to try. Besides if someone puts up a topic you can win by checking their history I don't want to win it anyway. It turns it into a competition of quick eyes and fingers rather than a game of people yelling answers at a computer and hoping someone yells back. In other words it ain't fun.
That is, unless you're the person asking the question, at which point most people tend to get answers that in no way relate to them at all with the large share of people giving answers based on what they themselves prefer, which isn't the point at all. There have been a few people who have even found the experience downright insulting. By doing my best to give a truly applicable answer, I'm attempting to make the person running the round feel like someone actually cared enough to either know something about them already or at least bother to find out, learning a little something about them in the process.

At least that's how I feel when someone does it for me.

On top of that you get the occasional person who declares someone else's post the obvious winner based on their own preferences rather than anything relating to the person in question, which is just flat out annoying and ultimately stupid.

The very name "Who Knew?" is something of a dead giveaway that it's not a guessing game, but rather something of a forum-centric trivia contest with a touch of motivation toward getting to know one another.

[CelesJessa]

I know next to nothing about Star Trek ships and wouldn't even know where to start...

The romulan bird of prey has been used, but can I guess Klingon Bird of Prey? Would that work? XD; It looks like a pretty awesome ship design.

[POS Industries]

I think Overcast already got that one, CJ, but it is a pretty snazzy ship.

[Overcast]

I guess to start I will certainly agree bout the feeling when someone tries to say your own opinion for you. I did not appreciate what Zilla did.

I figure even through the guesses I learn a little simply by seeing the right answer and figuring through their auto-answers, I even learn a bit by the guesses of others. For example, two music answers from Hawk have alerted me that he and I have very different musical tastes. The quote centric bit from Wizard tells me he tends to enjoy truly intellectual quotes rather than an amusing one. GARUD will take the strategic knowledge of useful Pokemon over the nostalgia of them any day.

What I'm getting at is I do agree this is a bit about getting to know your fellow forumites. I just wonder that if you can find out most about them by reading back then this can be a chance to learn something new about them by giving a topic that can be revealing.

I shall submit to your opinion if the answer can be found in earlier posts, though only because it does help get to know a person better.

EDIT: I think CJ is fine, according to the webpage I used the Battle Cruiser and the Bird of Prey are different models.

[POS Industries]

Yeah, that's true. And you actually do have a good knack for some solid guesswork, which is pretty damned impressive.

I think CJ is fine, according to the webpage I used the Battle Cruiser and the Bird of Prey are different models.
Oh man, you're right! I got K't'inga confused with K'vort, because fuck learning the made up Klingon language, amirite?

CJ is good to go.

[Ape Boy]

Really, I think the fun is guessing and finding out a person's tastes based on your ideas, not trying to look up what they've already said they like and just posting that.

Sure, mine doesn't require any effort, but I find it more interesting to see how my picks match up with theirs than to just regurgitate their favorites back at them.

[russianreversal]

Anyway, to the question at hand...

Well, seeing as the Bird of Prey is out and I can't be bothered checking what class Voyager is I'll just go with the Borg Cube. Gota love the simplicity. Heh, I was going to say this just in case it was last place. Seriously, it's a space brick.

If you don't know the answer, and can't make an estimate based on what you know about the poster, I see no problem with a flat out guess. If you remember somebody saying something that pertained to the question at hand, though, it'd be kinda lazy to not find and post that.

My guess? The Prometheus Class cruiser.

[Ape Boy]

If there were some sort of prize or something, I would probably try to find the definite answer. Since there's not, I'm not as apt to put in the effort to research the person. It's more fun for me to go in not knowing, especially when they're going to tell us the results anyway, so we don't really miss out on anything gained from research.

Not saying people shouldn't research, though, just my thought process.

[Krylo]

Watching people discuss how to play the game is less fun than just playing the game at this point, I think.

[Zilla]

I did not appreciate what Zilla did.


Sorry, it wasn't about me declaring what you would say as much as it was trying not to entropy the game, which hadn't been posted in for 48 hours aside from the one right before mine, and I was thinking someone needed to be declared a winner since it had been more than 76 hours since the question went up. (post times were 05-19-2009, 06:52 PM for the question, 05-22-2009, 11:44 PM for my post). The rules say 24 hours or so. I figured you forgot you had the question up in the first place, and I didn't want to wait for someone else to just come along. I also didn't want to just take it since I didn't even guess, and some of the suggestions were pretty good.

The other times, it's not meant to be a judgement, it's meant to be an if I was asking this question note.

Edit: Enterprise D. Just because.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Heh, I was going to say this just in case it was last place. Seriously, it's a space brick.

Yeah, but what a bitchin space brick!

Actually though, I've just re-read the question and it doesn't mention specific classes anywhere, so I'm assuming named ships are fair game as well, so I'm switching my guess to Voyager.

Someone else can take the Cube if they want now.

[Moogle0119]

The Reliant from Star Trek II (Khan's ship).

[Kerensky287]

Someone else can take the Cube if they want now.

'Kay. Borg Cube.

I mean, I don't know any other Star Trek ships, so let's go with the simplest answer.

[Rejected Again]

Romulon D'deridex (http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/romulan/battlecruiser_zv1A.jpg)?

Yeah, I have little to no knowlage of startrek. Go google!

[Mr.Bookworm]

The Daedalus?

I always liked how they called one of their earliest ship designs the Daedalus. It's not tempting fate, it's like walking up to fate and insulting her mother.

[krogothwolf]

I didn't see anyone say the Sovereign Class so is that one still available?

[russianreversal]

what a bitchin space brick! Ehhhh, that's sig worthy. XD

On another note, props to anyone who didn't have to use google. I can't ever remember what names go with what ship (except for the defiant and sovereign, but duh).

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

The Daedalus?

I always liked how they called one of their earliest ship designs the Daedalus. It's not tempting fate, it's like walking up to fate and insulting her mother.

It's funny, cos Stargate did the same thing. Although they went the full mile and named both a ship AND a class of ships Daedalus. And also named their first ship Prometheus. Not really a good thing, naming your first ship after a guy who was chained to a rock for eternity and cursed to have his liver eaten by birds every day, only for it to grow back the next morning.

[Krylo]

naming your first ship after a guy who was chained to a rock for eternity and cursed to have his liver eaten by birds every day, only for it to grow back the next morning.

He gained that fate for giving humans the power of fire--an ability which supposed to be the exclusive purview of the gods.

From that perspective it's actually a pretty good name for their first ship.

[bluestarultor]

Also, Daedalus survived. It was his son, Icarus, who got too close to the sun, melted his wings, crashed into the sea, and drowned. Daedalus went on to presumably invent more things after building his memorial statue to his son.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Also, Daedalus survived. It was his son, Icarus, who got too close to the sun, melted his wings, crashed into the sea, and drowned. Daedalus went on to presumably invent more things after building his memorial statue to his son.

Well actually he went on to murder his nephew because his nephew was a good inventor and Daedalus didn't like competition.

[POS Industries]

I kinda made this one easy on purpose, as it's very difficult to go wrong with me and Star Trek ships. In fact, the only instant lose ship that immediately came to mind for me was the generic wedge-shaped alien-of-the-week ship (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Studio_models_(TNG)#Mondor) or other generic wedge-shaped alien-of-the-week ship (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Studio_models_(TNG)#Jovis), either of which seemed to appear in 80% of all TNG episodes.

15. Daedalus-class (Mr.Bookworm) - This is one of those ships where I just feel bad looking at it, as if I want to give it a hug, tell it that everything's going to be okay, and then tearfully shoot it in the back of the head to put it out of its misery. It looks as if whoever designed it thought that it would be totally awesome to fly around space inside a giant back massager.
14. Romulan mining ship (Osterbaum) - Aside from the one in the latest movie that was all tricked out with a weapons system reverse-engineered from stolen Borg technology, these aren't terribly impressive to behold. Even with Nero's Narada, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was a generic wedge-shaped alien-of-the-week ship buried under all those spikes.
13. Ferengi Shuttle (Krylo) - I think earwig-looking Ferengi Shuttle is a pretty cool guy. eh crashes at Roswell and doesn't afraid of anything.
12. USS Reliant (Moogle0119) - You know, the much-beloved Miranda-class (or Soyuz-class, if you've been getting blown up over and over again in a "Groundhog Day"-style time loop for a few weeks) never terribly impressed me. It was like the Constitution-class' slouchy younger brother. Also, I never got how they were all over the damn place during the Dominion War despite the fact that they should have been out of service for the better part of a century. Still, the Reliant was definitely a step up for ol' Khan from the Botany Bay.
11. Romulan Bird of Prey (Fifthfiend) - You know what I like about Romulans? They design this bland flying saucery-looking thing and decide that the only proper course of action is to paint a giant fucking bird on the underside. Then after going to all that trouble, they just turn on the cloaking device so it doesn't matter anyway.
10. USS Voyager (Hawk) - Big long saucer, itty-bitty warp nacelles. And what the fuck is all this shit? (http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/seriouslywhatisit.jpg) Also, gotta love the aeroshuttle on the underside that everybody totally forgot about.
9. K't'inga-class Battle Cruiser (Overcast) - I can't tell the difference between this and the D-7 and I don't know why they're considered different classes. Then again, I don't know why they felt it necessary to explain why Klingons didn't have forehead ridges in TOS, either, so maybe I'm not doing this whole Trekkie thing right.
8. Excelsior-class (The Wizard Who Did It) - Huge and awesome next to a Constitution-class, silly-looking and oddly-proportioned next to anything from the 24th Century. I don't know what happened there.
7. D'deridex-class (Rejected Again) - This is a really, really cool ship design. It's also ridiculously ginormous, apparently had zilch for maneuverability, colored a weird shade of green that never quite looked right on screen, fired all weapons out of its nose, and was filled to the brim with a bunch of angry people with bowel cuts and huge sparkly shoulderpads.
6. Borg Cube (Kerensky287) - Who would have thought such a simple polyhedron could be so huge and terrifying? Some people like to put spikes on their ships or shape them like giant birds to make you take them seriously. Only the Borg have the balls to ride around in a giant Rubik's cube with all the stickers pulled off. You know why? Because just one of these fuckers can end your world. They don't have to pimp their ride to get their point across.
5. Klingon Bird of Prey (CelesJessa) - However, pimping one's ride is still pretty sweet sometimes. It's the movable wings that really sell these bad boys for me. It's like you can tell the mood the ship's in just by how they're positioned. PROTIP: The higher up the wings are, the angrier the ship is. And it starts out pretty damned angry to begin with.
4. Sovereign-class (krogothwolf) - Starting with Voyager, whoever on the production staff that was drawing up the ship designs had this weird habit of making every ship in Starfleet look absolutely gorgeous from above, and then just absolutely retarded from the underside.
3. Prometheus-class (russianreversal) - Same as above, but pointier! Also, it was the Federation's Voltron. The brighter interior was rather nice to me, considering that everything else in Starfleet at that point seemed to have these dull grays everywhere, which I always felt was a downgrade from the more polished interior of something like the Enterprise-D. What I didn't care for was the bridge layout. Was too dull and it looked like the front consoles were buried in the floor for some reason.
2. USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D (Zilla) - Everything about this thing just oozed style. The hull proportions were just right, it looked good from just about every angle, the interiors were well-lit, warm, and welcoming, and the bridge layout was the absolute best ever, complete with a nice wood finish on the tactical console. I don't know if other Galaxy-class vessels looked this good on the inside, but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. I always got the feeling they decided to go all-out for a ship named Enterprise.

WINNER: Defiant-class (Smarty McBarrelpants) - And yet, none of the above quite captured my imagination like the Defiant did when it was introduced. The whole thing was just absolutely the antithesis of Roddenberry's vision of the Federation, and with good reason. This was a ship designed out of one man's anger, and you could tell just by looking at it. The Borg came, killed Sisko's wife, destroyed his ship, came within a few miles of turning everything on his home planet into mechanical zombies, and he was going to build a shitload of these little motherfuckers to make sure that it never happened again. Then Starfleet told him to quit it and mothballed the project, but it all worked out in the end. I think there was just something totally cool to me about the littlest ship in the fleet being the toughest by a mile during the Dominion War.

Nobody said Vor'cha-class attack cruiser, though, which was probably my favorite ever. Still, a very close round on the whole.

[Overcast]

Ha I never liked the fact they added those head ridges in, I figure a Klingon doesn't need a racial difference to appear heinous. They do that all by themselves.

And damned I was sitting at the website looking at Klingon words thinking...what should I choose. Damn me since I choose the wrong one.

[russianreversal]

What I didn't care for was the bridge layout. Was too dull and it looked like the front consoles were buried in the floor for some reason. I don't think I've ever seen the bridge, but I totally agree that nothing could ever touch the Enterprise for style. I just saw that guy and was reminded of my original thoughts on it way back when: you could totally outrun ANYBODY in that thing. I probably never would have guessed defiant, but that's only because I joined the Trek game late and never really developed an attachment to it.

No, wait, I did the the bridge. You're right, it's just silly.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Righto.
Favourite famous/historical person. Let's leave this wide open.

[Zilla]

Douglas Adams isn't going to win, but he's going to place somewhere on there, I'm pretty sure.

Edit: I think I have some sort of record for second place as well.

[42PETUNIAS]

Nikolai Tesla.

[Overcast]

Robert E Lee