Homesuck: Vriska Rising

[Dracorion]

It was clearly a Goblin Vampire Rainbow Drinker Punch.

Fuck you, I'm not scouring 8BT for a link.

Also Nonsie all of you ssssshhhhhhh

[synkr0nized]

lol @ five of you posting the same thing

[Kim]

I DID IT BEFORE IT WAS COOL

[POS Industries]

SHUT THE FUCK UP, HIPSTER.

[Fifthfiend]

It was clearly a Goblin Vampire Rainbow Drinker Punch.

No, that was a Goblin Punch (http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005424).

[Krylo]

Snake, your waifu has struck my waifu.

I challenge you to a duel.

[Locke cole]

http://i52.tinypic.com/9kzdoh.png

[Solid Snake]

Snake, your waifu has struck my waifu.

I challenge you to a duel.

...I think I just fell desperately in love with Homestuck again.

...It's like Andrew came here to NPF, read all my bitching, and said to himself, "This isn't right, I need to make Solid Snake feel good about shit again."

[MuMu]

Stop underlining that, every time you do I mouse over it expecting a link that isn't there, goddamnit.

[Krylo]

Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck


IN RELATED NEWS: This is the best way this could have possibly gone, and Vriska's CLOCK and DOOF faces are the best faces.

Gamzee's Hoooooooooonk is second place. A very close second.

Edit: The best part of the 'CLOCK' face is that one of her extra pupils is just way off to the side for some reason. Apparently knocked there.

[Art of Hilt]

Stop underlining that, every time you do I mouse over it expecting a link that isn't there, goddamnit.

But then it would be incorrect formating!!!
Titles of works must be underlined unless they are titles of smaller works such as poetry.
Anything less is unforgivable.

[Kim]

SHUT THE FUCK UP, HIPSTER.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2dvmtl0.gif

Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck Homestuck

I'm disappointed you didn't hide a link in there.

[Wigmund]

I'm rather hoping all Kanaya does to Eridan is tear off his patch of purple hair.

And then he commits suicide with the science wand out of shame.

[Solid Snake]

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005427

...If someone tells me how to make a serviceable avatar out of that image, I will love that person for all eternity.

[Kim]

I'll have you an avatar in a few minutes.

[Fifthfiend]

You know Snake if you want to acknowledge that something is the title of the work it is ALSO GENERALLY CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE to italicize.

[synkr0nized]

I've already done it for that one and the nutshot one. I just haven't decided if I like them enough to upload one and change to it.

[Solid Snake]

You know Snake if you want to acknowledge that something is the title of the work it is ALSO GENERALLY CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE to italicize.

Is something wrong with underlining it? I often chose to underline out of habit when naming the title of a work, whereas I rely more on italics to convey informal emphasis on specific phrases.

[Kim]

http://i54.tinypic.com/52dxmw.gif

[Loyal]

I'm disappointed you didn't hide a link in there.

No kidding. Wasted opportunity.

Is something wrong with underlining it? I often chose to underline out of habit when naming the title of a work, whereas I rely more on italics to convey informal emphasis on specific phrases. Hyperlinks are automatically underlined on this forum. When you format a title with an underline and nothing else it looks like a hyperlink.

[Solid Snake]

http://i54.tinypic.com/52dxmw.gif

NonCon you are now officially the bestest.

Also, all right, all right, I'll try not to underline anymore.

[Fifthfiend]

Is something wrong with underlining it? I often chose to underline out of habit when naming the title of a work, whereas I rely more on italics to convey informal emphasis on specific phrases.

What's wrong is gratuitous italics is my bit you fuck, you can't have it.

[Art of Hilt]

But Solid Snake.
Think about the incorrect formating.

[synkr0nized]

But Solid Snake.
Think about the incorrect formating.

You worry about your spelling.

[Locke cole]

What's wrong is gratuitous italics is my bit you fuck, you can't have it.

You don't own italics.

[Art of Hilt]

You worry about your spelling.

But. None of those words are spelled incorrectly.
I'm extra sure because I wrote it down again and no red lines came up on my screen.

e- oh SHIT "formating" is probably a whole other word that means something that isn't "formatting"

[synkr0nized]

formating.

formatting


Also, "None of those words is spelled incorrectly".

edit:
e- oh SHIT "formating" is probably a whole other word that means something that isn't "formatting"

Or, you know, not a word at all.

[Art of Hilt]

okay so i'm wrong. i'm shred apart on this battlefield, but i should expect that, since this is such a doggy dog world. irregardless, i will try better- alot better, in fact- and except any advise that you supply.

i hope this episode will not have a negative affect on how my writing is seen.

[Fifthfiend]

Also, "None of those words is spelled incorrectly".

I think we already have enough things in this thread for people to violently disagree about.

[synkr0nized]

@Art: OK, either now you're messing with me or English is not your native language. Clearly we should now write 5435636 posts about it in this thread. }:o


@Fifth: Fine, fine.

[Art of Hilt]

@Art: OK, either now you're messing with me or English is not your native language.


It is defiantly one of those too options.

Clearly we should now write 5435636 posts about it in this thread. }:o

Wait!
Let me write up a whole essay where I accomplish little else but the impression that I'm being condescending with lip-service to the actual argument stuck somewhere in there first! >:D

[Specterbane]

All this talk about spell checking and format is starting to make me think that MSPA's Lord English is going to be the MS Word paper-clip out for revenge against the trolls for their spelling ticks.

[Dracorion]

Don't mind me, I'm just posting to show off my new avatar.

[Marc v4.0]

She really should have seen that coming

[rpgdemon]

You should make the first frame last longer.

[Dracorion]

How about now?

[Art of Hilt]

Pretty rad

[Locke cole]

So, I wonder why Kanaya is shining now.

It's not a changed property of her blood. Her blood is the same color and lustre as it always has been.

[Red Mage Black]

Blah, tried my own version of what was already made. Somehow ended up shaving off 30kb when I finished. Maybe I accidentally deleted a panel.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/Maniacman2030/kanawesomerr2.gif

[Kim]

Looks like your picture quality is downgraded a bit.

[Loyal]

So, I wonder why Kanaya is shining now.

It's not a changed property of her blood. Her blood is the same color and lustre as it always has been.
Well if it were, she'd be glowing green.

[Dracorion]

Screw it, I'm not going to be the one that makes the SBAHJ joke here.

[Archbio]

funnystuff

Shouldn't that be Jegus Grist?

[Locke cole]

Shouldn't that be Jegus Grist?

I didn't make it.

If I had, it'd be "Hopy Jegus Chris"

[rpgdemon]

What are you talking about?

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

THIS IS THE BEST THING.
THE VERY BEST THING.

[Locke cole]

What are you talking about?

http://i52.tinypic.com/9kzdoh.png

[rpgdemon]

And yet, I am still left just as baffled.

[Locke cole]

Based off of http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/036/842/original/600px-Ggodhand_original.jpg.

[rpgdemon]

Based off of http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/036/842/original/600px-Ggodhand_original.jpg.

Now it all TOTALLY makes sense. Yeah...

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Now it all TOTALLY makes sense. Yeah...

OH FER
ITS A COMIC ABOUT GOD HAND, THE VIDEO GAME.

[rpgdemon]

Well, now it -does- totally make sense.

[Kim]

God Hand. One of the best games on the PS2.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Additionally, I was incorrect.

THIS IS THE VERY BEST THING.

[Art of Hilt]

OH GOD

MY HEART JUST IMPLODED

MY NERVES ARE FRAYED

THIS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE

[rpgdemon]

As much as he's my least favorite character, is anyone else getting tired of the trolls all dying? I feel like if he just dies here, it'll be unsatisfying, because there's not really enough substance to it. No resolution of any of the crap he did, or anything, just, "Well, he's gone now, never to be seen again, so everything that he just did was mostly meaningless".

[Red Mage Black]

Now she's kicking everyone's asses. Couldn't say the smug bastard didn't deserve it. Makes sense why she's offing them, though it's not a confirmed death for Vriska. Each one of them has wracked up a body count of exactly two each. Lets just say this is going to be VERY satisfying.

EDIT:
rpgdemon: I don't know, all the deaths tend to be mentioned at one point or another. Doesn't mean it'll end up being meaningless, as there will probably be a relevant plot point with it later.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Personally I think she's totally unaware of what Gamzee and Vriska have done and just beat the shit out of them on the way to Eridan because, fuck, they probably deserved it just by virtue of being themselves.

[Amake]

I just can't stop staring at Vriska's eyeball. Did Kanaya punch her 12% crosseyed?

[Art of Hilt]

As much as he's my least favorite character, is anyone else getting tired of the trolls all dying? I feel like if he just dies here, it'll be unsatisfying, because there's not really enough substance to it. No resolution of any of the crap he did, or anything, just, "Well, he's gone now, never to be seen again, so everything that he just did was mostly meaningless".

He brought Feferi to the Horrorterrors, which is like a huge family reunion for her.

He fixed Sollux so that he wouldn't hear voices any more, which have been tormenting him all his life.

He triggered whatever turned Kanaya into a rainbow drinker, making her secret wish come true.

He set out to destroy Hope... and accomplished precisely the opposite.

e- I fully expect Eridan to fuck something up in the dream bubbles though.

[IHateMakingNames]

I am very underwhelmed by this whole scenario. Kanaya just ran through all the strongest trolls who didn't do a single thing to stop her.

Even if there is an explanation as to why no one took any action, I cannot think of one that makes it any better.

Plus Eridan is going to die and Vriska isn't.

[Locke cole]

They were all completely shocked by her entrance, 'specially Eridan?

Plus, you know VAMPIRE SPEED and all that.

[Kim]

Plus, y'know, shocked at the ease with which she kicked Gamzee's ass.

[Locke cole]

She kicked his balls.

[Red Mage Black]

I wouldn't blame Eridan for being surprised, considering he thought he killed her. Not to mention if you burst in and sacktapped the craziest guy off a cliff, then punch a GOD and send them faceplanting, people are going to shit themselves and be unable to act.

[Art of Hilt]

It's like when you want to get respect in prison you shank the biggest guy you find.
In the balls.
With your foot.

[CelesJessa]

These have been the best series of updates ever.

[rpgdemon]

Also, can we make a rule in this thread that whenever an update goes up, whoever's the first to post when it's there just says, "Update", or something, first? I generally check here more often than the site (Because there is more updating/conversing here), and usually catch it very quickly/before spoiling it if people are talking about a new update, but it would still be nice.

[Locke cole]

I just...

I just hope the wand wasn't powering her undead state somehow.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Oh my god Celes is there a bigger version of that thing you're using as an avatar?
That looks hilarious.

also: http://localhostr.com/file/AmXWyBJ/1298012681744.png

[Red Mage Black]

I couldn't agree more. It will be sort of anticlimactic if she just chainsaws Eridan though. Not that I mind, but I'd have rather watched the ass kicking in flash format.

EDIT: Of course, horrible on the draw. Meant to agree with CJ's post.

[Locke cole]

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h289/nobody_2006/VirginDiplomacy.png

[CelesJessa]

Oh my god Celes is there a bigger version of that thing you're using as an avatar?
That looks hilarious.

Tadaa! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1109561&postcount=5731)

[Locke cole]

I know you didn't make it originally, but is there any chance we could get Eridan's rectionface edited into that?

[Geminex]

Everything has been said already. Homestuck is glorious again.
I said that I hoped that these random deaths would have a purpose and by god they did.

Also, I'm suddenly a lot more proud to be a Virgo.

[Solid Snake]

...I cannot believe, literally cannot believe that Andrew turned what I thought precipitated the beginning of the end of my adoration for Homestuck, and turned it into the epitome, the pinnacle, the zenith of all things Homestuck.

Andrew you are a better man than I had erroneously assumed. At least today, sir. At least today.


Also, I'm suddenly a lot more proud to be a Virgo.

FUCK YES BUDDY

VIRGOS UNITE

[Krylo]

Debunked is the best sound effect.

[Geminex]

FUCK YES BUDDY

VIRGOS UNITE
Must... resist... urge... to change... avatar...

...I cannot believe, literally cannot believe that Andrew turned what I thought precipitated the beginning of the end of my adoration for Homestuck, and turned it into the epitome, the pinnacle, the zenith of all things Homestuck.
DON'T YOU FEEL SILLY NOW.

Edit:
Homestuck: Making sparkly vampires cool.

[Locke cole]

SCIENCE IS FAKE.

MAGIC IS REAL.

SHINY VAMPIRES ARE SUDDENLY AWESOME.

[Amake]

Pff we all know Virgo is just a Scorpio with a modestly tucked tail.

And yes to DEBUNK.

And yes to all the pictures just posted. I say to you, yes.

[Solid Snake]

All I have to say in addition to what has already been said is, assuming no drastic and unexpected late-night twists, tomorrow will be a beautiful 72* degree F day in the District of Columbia.

I will be wearin' my Kanaya troll t-shirt.
Oh hell yes.

[Locke cole]

Perhaps I should've bought the shirts when they were still in stock. Now I can't get the Tavros shirt that would fit my sign.

[Flarecobra]

All I have to say is this: You will fear Kanaya's Rageface.

[POS Industries]

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/sylphdiplomacy.png

[Locke cole]

...I just now realized that Kanaya's little improv-bandage is Eridan's cape.

She wears it better than he ever did.

[Solid Snake]

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/sylphdiplomacy.png

Where is that shirt being offered
Where

[Flarecobra]

Nowhere yet. Unless you know a shirt screener.

[Art of Hilt]

this update

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6713/1288164871218.gif

Thus concludes the best day of updates Homestuck will ever have in its entire history.

In other words, HOLY SHIT FUCK YES

[Kim]

HAHAHA YESSSSS

[Amake]

Woo shit just got roughly 6% more real.

We may be getting reality overdose if this continues.

[stefan]

I don't see why everyone's suprised that kanaya is going all SYLPH DIPLOMACY on Vriska and Gamzee. I mean, Gamzee is wearing Equius' glasses, Nepeta's hat, and is covered in blood, and Vriska is, well, vriska. Plus kanaya was just snacking on Terezi, so she probably saw the trollian log Terezi wrote about vriska killing Tavros.

[synkr0nized]

Vriska had Kanaya make her a dress... that she wore for Tavros. And broke her heart. Hmm, if you're raging at everyone I think that would deserve a smackin'. Gamzee is fucking weird, Karkat's notes, etc. (she could have overheard conversations, read folks' computer screens, and so on even if we take aside what she's already heard or seen prior to being run through). Eridan, well, OK, that one is obvious.

And only Eridan is confirmed dead. I don't really think the other two are. So it's also, to me, a dose of two "gtfo" on her way to her objective.


I lamented her lame death but am quite satisfied at Eridan's death. Let's hope it sticks.



Are we going to suddenly shift back to find John's dad and Rose's mom dead?

[Krylo]

Gamzee is obviously not dead. He's alive at 0:00.

Vriska is almost definitely not dead, it was just a punch in the face. Also, Kanaya's kinda got a thing for her.

It's pretty obvious that she was just getting the other two out of the way so they wouldn't interfere with her murdering the shit out of Eridan.

[Marc v4.0]

Oh gog this is the best update I have ever woken up to read

[Locke cole]

Gamzee is obviously not dead. He's alive at 0:00.


Perspective can trick. All we know is that Gamzee is watching the ball drop at 0:00. It could be that he dies and his ghost is watching it with his white, reflective eyes.

Nitpicking aside: YESSSSSSSS. I was hoping that Hussie would just allow a great thing to happen, and then he did it. He made it hapen.


Edit:

Hey, hey CelesJessa.

Guess who's avatar is now obsolete?

http://i.imgur.com/PQDaC.gif

[Loyal]

I just can't stop staring at Vriska's eyeball. Did Kanaya punch her 12% crosseyed?

Minor nitpick: 14.285614%. She has only seven pupils in that eye, for eight total.

This update was basically excellent.

[CelesJessa]

Edit:

Hey, hey CelesJessa.

Guess who's avatar is now obsolete?

Not for long!

As soon as I get back from class that is so getting turned into an avatar.

Are those Eridan's legs on the seat next to him? Amazing.

[Amake]

If one of your eight eyes went out of place I'd think that makes you 1/8 crosseyed.

And yeah that picture wins at avatar. Though if it were me I'd turn their collective pupils a little stage left so it looks like they're looking at the movie screen. Ironically Vriska's left eye seems to be the only one doing that.

[Locke cole]

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7784/129804137852.gif

[Aldurin]

Homestuck is the only true source of avatars ever. Everything else is placeholders.

[Donomni]

Just four words in regards to these updates:

GOOD VAMPIRE

BEST TROLL

[Red Mage Black]

And I found yet another version of the reaction pictures:

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq82/mikash91/MSPAT3K.gif

[Locke cole]

I prefer the one with just Vriska, Karkat, and Eridan. Especially since in that version everyone has snacks.

[IHateMakingNames]

I suppose I just never liked Kanaya, and I like Eridan best out of the four trolls involved, thus I'm the only person who didn't particularly enjoy these updates.

What is with the Kanaya hype? Before this all she ever did was have that one bitch off with Rose (The most uninteresting of the kids).

[Locke cole]

I suppose I just never liked Kanaya, and I like Eridan best out of the four trolls involved, thus I'm the only person who didn't particularly enjoy these updates.

What is with the Kanaya hype? Before this all she ever did was have that one bitch off with Rose (The most uniteresting of the kids).

Well, for one thing, we've been calling "She becomes a Rainbow Drinker" since her death, and this is a nice payoff.

Secondly, what she did here was quite awesome. She singlehndedly beat the shit out of the three most dangerous trolls on the asteroid, and got her reenge on Eridan in manner most cathartic.

And I guess because there are a good number of people who dislike Eridan (I am not saying you are wrong for liking him, just making notice of a trend that I happen to be a part of myself)

...And I guess the fact that she was introduced wielding a chainsaw, and is overall one of the more sane and reasonable trolls made a good impression on people.

[Geminex]

It's less that everyone wished for Kanaya to come back, and more than the three people she comically beat up were an evil clown, a HUGE BITCH and a whiny emo kid, all of which had killed at least one other troll.

[IHateMakingNames]

I meant specifically before these updates. I can see why Kanaya would get liked now, since those three are the (on average) three most liked trolls.

Before this I saw a lot of love for Kanaya and how her death was somehow worse then the others. I never really understood why since she's been rather unimportant and boring until now.

[Locke cole]

Sane does tend to be boring next to crazy. I'll admit that Kanaya wasn't exactly my favorite, but she was a likable character.

And her death carried with it the destruction of the Matriorb, so I think I would consider her death sequence to be worse than Feferi's.

[Solid Snake]

Before this I saw a lot of love for Kanaya and how her death was somehow worse then the others. I never really understood why since she's been rather unimportant and boring until now.

I have never found Kanaya remotely boring, and in fact, found her one of the most consistently awesome, rational, likable, and deceptively fun trolls around.

It's just that her humor is somewhat more subtle. See, for example, her "unedited" version of her first conversation with Rose, included as an attachment. That was a fantastic moment, but one that's easily missed if you don't click the link. There's also her slow catching on to human customs such as sarcasm, which she wielded "brilliantly" against Eridan in her Alterniabound update.

...I dunno, maybe she's an acquired taste, but she was my favorite Homestuck character before these recent developments and now she's really gone above the rest of the field.

[Fifthfiend]

I meant specifically before these updates. I can see why Kanaya would get liked now, since those three are the (on average) three most liked trolls.

Before this I saw a lot of love for Kanaya and how her death was somehow worse then the others. I never really understood why since she's been rather unimportant and boring until now.

I think what you're calling boring a lot of people would call "Being one of the only characters in this comic who wasn't shithive psycho all the goddamn time".

[Geminex]

I think what you're calling boring a lot of people would call "Being one of the only characters in this comic who wasn't shithive psycho all the goddamn time".
Yeah. It kinda says a lot about homestuck when a chainsaw-wielding character can be considered 'boring'.

[Loyal]

And I found yet another version of the reaction pictures:

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq82/mikash91/MSPAT3K.gif
John's a good addition, but Eridan isn't as great when he isn't visibly taking two seats, and Gamzee is just... no.

[Solid Snake]

I prefer it immensely with just Karkat, Vriska and Eridan. Anything with more than three characters just feels a bit excessive there. Better to include the three most awesome "shocked" reaction images.

[IHateMakingNames]

John in the background could work. Three shocked trolls then a human rolling his eyes. We can assume there is a janitor currently mopping in the movie they are watching.

[Pip Boy]

It kind of looked like he was staring at Vriska actually.

[CelesJessa]

I'm not a big fan of the one with John, because he and Vriska's arms are doing the same thing. Too much symmetry!

[Loyal]

Maybe instead of holding a single piece of popcorn, John can have one of those drink-hats.

[Krylo]

Maybe instead of holding a single piece of popcorn, John can have one of those drink-hats.

Milk duds.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I think I'd prefer it if John were in the middle of Karkat and Vriska, and was maneuvering to put his arms around each.

[Art of Hilt]

The problem is that the theatre needs to be bigger to fit everyone inside.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgu673krkJ1qgwc9xo1_1280.gif?AWSAccessKeyId =0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1298157680&Signature=K6ts%2B6qbLi6xok0hYdqigplGMp0%3D

[Geminex]

Clearly, someone is missing. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=4&p=001873)

[Aldurin]

Did that come out of the image manip thread? Because if it did then it's almost illegal not to have a baby Dave clinging to something.

[Pip Boy]

And have some shades pop down. Deal with it.

[Loyal]

This is going to become the next Pillar of Osterbaum, isn't it.

[Pip Boy]

Nothing will ever replace the Pillar of Osterbaum.

[Geminex]

Pillar of whatnow?

[Dracorion]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/fjgca17/theatrestuck.gif

[Pip Boy]

Pillar of whatnow?

QUICK SOMEONE GO GET SEIL

[Loyal]

It's cool, I'm on it.

Start here. (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?p=917313#post917313)

[Flarecobra]

Oh god, I remember that.

[CelesJessa]

And have some shades pop down. Deal with it.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2010/190g.gif?

[Pip Boy]

Although the "Best image manip mindfuck thread ever" award still goes to Pip Boy is not responsible for any horrible fate visited upon those who follow this link. (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=35886).

Its a shame that the best image from that one isn't still hosted. My lord. Does anyone still have the one with the fat guy that Synk posted?

[POS Industries]

Rose (The most uninteresting of the kids).
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/TT.gif

[Archbio]

A little late/early, a funeral song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYFTbzREY7M) for all the trolls.

[Solid Snake]

Here, everyone, let's get our rankings of the trolls and kids accurate:

Kanaya > John > Terezi > Sollux > Rose > Dave > Aradia > Karkat > Nepeta > Tavros > Jade > Equius > Gamzee > Feferi > Many, many other characters in the history of written literature > Vriska and Eridan together in the bowels of hell.

I have typed it, therefore it is true.

[Kim]

I suspect that Dave may in fact be a hipster.

Yes / No / Ironic Hipster?

[Solid Snake]

Aaawwwwww.

I just got a sneak peek of the Kanaya plushie I had made for me and it looks adorable.

...Also, I wore my Kanaya shirt all day today and no one recognized it. Boo.

EDIT: Now I just need to convince Krylo to order a Vriska plushie so we can have epic tag team duels.

[Locke cole]

He's only being ironic ironically.

[POS Industries]

Eridan: Deal With It.

[Locke cole]

Best possible conclusion of this string of updates?

I do believe it is.

[Dracorion]

YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[Krylo]

EDIT: Now I just need to convince Krylo to order a Vriska plushie so we can have epic tag team duels.

I already have a Vriska RealDoll, why would I bother getting a plushie?

[stefan]

HUSSIE!

[Locke cole]

I already have a Vriska RealDoll, why would I bother getting a plushie?

Wat.

[greed]

This was truly a fantastic update, how long til she discards them with a bluh! due to Equius sweat?
Here, everyone, let's get our rankings of the trolls and kids accurate:

Kanaya > John > Terezi > Sollux > Rose > Dave > Aradia > Karkat > Nepeta > Tavros > Jade > Equius > Gamzee > Feferi > Many, many other characters in the history of written literature > Vriska and Eridan together in the bowels of hell.

I have typed it, therefore it is true.

Bah

Karkat>>>>> John >Vriska >Jade>Kanaya>Equius>Rose>Dave>Terezi>Aradia >Tavros>Eridan >Sollux>Nepeta>Gamzee>Feferi

[Locke cole]

Hussie ? Trolls ? Kids

[Flarecobra]

Although the "Best image manip mindfuck thread ever" award still goes to Pip Boy is not responsible for any horrible fate visited upon those who follow this link. (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=35886).

Its a shame that the best image from that one isn't still hosted. My lord. Does anyone still have the one with the fat guy that Synk posted?

Synk does.

[Art of Hilt]

VAMPIRE SPEED confirmed.
She did the entire beatdown before the glasses had a chance to fall down.

[Flarecobra]

O_O Can't beleve I actually got something right...

[A Zarkin' Frood]

It might also mean that Kanaya kicked Gamzee's balls so hard Equius' shades flew far FAR up into the blackness so that she could beat down the rest even with her sluggish speed.

Alternatively: She kicked Gamzee's balls so hard Equius' shades flew far FAR up into the blackness so that she had to wait about an hour for the shades to drop after beating the shit out of people with her VAMPIRE SPEED.

EDIT: Do trolls even have balls?

[Amake]

I think they call them shame globes.

[Archbio]

I thought they just had a bone bulge.

[greed]

Hahahaha now we got calm Vriska crushing on aggressive vampire Kanaya. Fantastic.

[Loyal]

EDIT: Do trolls even have balls?

Does this look like the face of a man who did not just get kicked in the balls? (http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005424)

e: which probably raises some interesting questions about what, exactly, is the difference between red and black rom, reproductively.

ee: Vriska is in <3 because she's basically a moth and Kanaya is glowing something fierce.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Does this look like the face of a man who did not just get kicked in the balls? (http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005424)


Who knows? They don't have to be balls. Could be just about anything, dunno how troll biology actually works.

LET'S ARGUE ABOUT WHY OUR IDEAS FOR POSSIBLE TROLL GENITALIA OR WHATEVER IS DOWN THERE IS THE BEST FOR THE NEXT TWO PAGES!!!

[Locke cole]

Nah.

[Aldurin]

I was disappointed when "Deal with it." Didn't show up on the "Shades: Descend" page.

[POS Industries]

I was disappointed when "Deal with it." Didn't show up on the "Shades: Descend" page.
Me too, buddy. Me too.

[Flarecobra]

Trollight is now Canon. Maybe.

Could be wrong.

[Solid Snake]

I don't know whether to respond with delight due to the awesomeness of Kanaya wearing Equius' shades, or fear that Vriska's crush may foretell a romance between them, or happiness that this may prevent Vriska's and John becoming a couple.

[Locke cole]

Heh. What if Kanaya rejects Vriska, now that Vriska is the one swooning?

[CelesJessa]

Vriska: http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/36972.gif

[Art of Hilt]

[Vriska has a crush on Kanaya] + [Kanaya has a crush on Rose] = [Vriska is going to be jealous of Rose]

...

O:

[Dracorion]

Vriska is going to be the reason the Green Sun mission goes wrong.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Nah that will be Eridan's ghost escaped from a dream bubble.

[Dracorion]

Him and what science wand?

[Art of Hilt]

on a slightly related note, from the fooorums

http://i.imgur.com/4abb3.gif

dat vriska derp face
dat kanaya sunglasses
aha ha ha ha ha

[Dracorion]

R.I.P. Mom and Dad.

'Twas a shame your love could never be.

Minstrels will sing songs about Dad's manliness forevermore.

[MuMu]

Wonder if he'll take the Pipe and the Scarf.

[Kim]

D::::

[Specterbane]

So much for the "UPDATE" someone asked for.

But yeah. Damn. So much for my hopes from Vriska.

[Kim]

John couldn't have prevented his Dad's death. He couldn't have even gotten there in time to see him before he died. Vriska telling him to do something productive instead of "Go see your Dad even though he'll be dead by the time you get there anyways" wouldn't have really helped.

[Dracorion]

He does seem to like getting trophies.

[Krylo]

Mom and Dad are together in eternity. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ycOp67eLoM)

[Loyal]

Still a bitch move to tell him he'd see his dad soon.I am sincerely, sincerely hoping that this was a bold-faced lie on her part, for John's protection, and she's not going to be like "I did say you'd see him soon, I just didn't say in what condition you'd find him!" when John discovers the bodies and understandably freaks the fuck out.

Because the latter would basically be a horrible, horrible thing to say.

[Locke cole]

A blatant lie would be nice... though I'm not sure what would be worse. John seeing... this, or him never finding out what happened to his dad.

[IHateMakingNames]

So much for the "UPDATE" someone asked for.
When I see this thread is posted in I check for updates just in case.

[Specterbane]

When I see this thread is posted in I check for updates just in case.

Fair enough, and a good policy. But I'm sure RPGdemon would've liked it. Oh well, who wants to put up a "deal with it" gif?

[Red Mage Black]

I am sincerely, sincerely hoping that this was a bold-faced lie on her part, for John's protection, and she's not going to be like "I did say you'd see him soon, I just didn't say in what condition you'd find him!" when John discovers the bodies and understandably freaks the fuck out.

Because the latter would basically be a horrible, horrible thing to say.
Well, when Jack first showed up before killing them, a friend and I had a discussion about this. Vriska already knew this was going to happen, considering she's contacting him from the future. So, rather then allow him to go and fight and get killed by Jack, she misled him for his protection. The words you think she'd say, I don't think understandably match what she meant. However, now that I think about it, it doesn't exactly mean they're permanently dead or that John will find him dead. In a sense, she could also possibly(but incredibly low) mean their dream forms or... probably slim to nil... God-tier. THAT or just finding them dead. This is just wishful thinking though. Who knows, maybe they'll pop up in the finale somehow if they don't come back said forms.

EDIT: I'm not entirely sure if some of what I said in the beginning is a reiteration of what Loyal already said, so I apologize.

[Locke cole]

http://i.imgur.com/IdoE2.gif

Oh, and trophy-filled update.

[Aldurin]

QUIT MAKING ME CHANGE AVATARS YOU INFERNAL WEBCOMIC!!

[rpgdemon]

Actually, I checked for updates before coming here.

Vriska, I am disappoint.

[Aldurin]

Oh yeah, this also definitely means that Jack somehow gets his shit fucked up bad enough to lose all of his trophies before he plays sword-monkey on the trolls victory door.

[Art of Hilt]

You have just murdered an innocent family.

A... family?
Dad and Mom were family.
They were on a ship in international waters with a captain.
Hass married them, and they became family, and now they died in each other's reach.

...

;_;

[Loyal]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is what a serial murderer looks like.

[Aldurin]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is what a serial murderer looks like.

Profiling bastards.

[Dracorion]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is what a serial murderer looks like.

Fabulous?

EDIT: UPDATE

Oh man. It was so awesome watching Vriska and Kanaya jump in out of nowhere holding hands and beat the shit out of Jack until he dropped all of his trophies.

Oh yes.

[Amake]

Jack assumed they were a family because that makes killing them so much sweeter.

And yeah Vriska did tell John awful, misleading truth, but there's probably no reason to rub it in his face. Actually I can see John going "I see what you did there" and then they will laugh. About the horrible murder of his and his dream girl's parents.

Well, my predictions have been wrong before.

[synkr0nized]

I and most of my town had no power yesterday.

Kanaya is still being great. I am still ridin' that high.

Vriska love is terrific.

Knew the parents/guardians would be dead.

Accessorizing Jack is terrific.

Fucking Cal.

Poor John. I know bad stuff was going to and still will happen, but John is so nice and kind-hearted.

Yes, to the post whatever ago -- I do still have that image up. I had moved some files around; I fixed it in the linked the thread.

[Solid Snake]

I feel terrible for John, but the silver lining is that this may actually lead him to finally realize that Vriska isn't quite the friend he's been misled to believe she is.

...And I understand this message will send Vriska fans in a tizzy, but I think it's even beneficial to them in the long-run if John actually turns a bit hostile and calls her out. If Vriska's ever going to stop being a BLUH BLUH HUGE BITCH, she really needs people she actually "likes and respects" to call her out aggressively and get angry with her. Starting, I hope, with John, Kanaya, and possibly also Terezi.

[POS Industries]

CALxJACK OTP <3333333

[Solid Snake]

CALxJACK OTP <3333333

Hahaha yes.

The problem with being an omnipotent force of destructive nature is that eventually you destroy everything, and then you have nothing to do and no one to talk to. =/

[POS Industries]

The problem with being an omnipotent force of destructive nature is that eventually you destroy everything, and then you have nothing to do and no one to talk to. =/
The tale of the unstoppable mass murderer is, truly, the most tragic one of all. :(

[Loyal]

So... which unstoppable mass-murderer are we talking about?

[Specterbane]

The one who finds a whole separate universe full of new victims.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Definitely a bitch move on Vriska's part, but what if she did tell the truth up front? He might have just gone to look for them and get shanked by Jack a second time.

Not necessarily saying that was her motive for keeping it a secret, but it may have been for the best.

[Kim]

she tells him where his dad is = he goes to find his dad and gets stabbed with his dad = "man vriska what a bitch"

she tells him the whole story of what will happen if he goes to rescue his dad = he goes to try and save his dad anyways = forumers like vriska but john's dead so who cares

Also keep in mind that both of those would be doomed timelines.

[Solid Snake]

she tells him where his dad is = he goes to find his dad and gets stabbed with his dad = "man vriska what a bitch"



EDIT: I guess the Vriska fan's retort to such a claim would be that by telling John he'd see his father again another time, Vriska prevented John from being at the scene of impending doom, and subsequently might have spared him from suffering a similar fate, assuming that Jack is in fact indestructible.
...Just anticipating the inevitable counter-argument in advance.

...Just saying, I beat you to it.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Predicting a counterargument does absolutely nothing to nullify it.

[Flarecobra]

...I swear, if that's why he's going around killing everyone...

[Kim]

...Just saying, I beat you to it.

My point was that the only scenario where you wouldn't be mad at Vriska is one where John ended up dead because of Vriska's honesty, oh and his Dad probably still would have died before John got there.

Or who knows, maybe then you would have been mad at Vriska for being honest the one time she should have lied.

[Solid Snake]

My point was that the only scenario where you wouldn't be mad at Vriska is one where John ended up dead because of Vriska's honesty, oh and his Dad probably still would have died before John got there.


If Vriska tells John the whole truth and John decides to rashly attempt to save his father despite Vriska's forewarnings of his impending death, I'd say then the blame would lie solely with John (even if his reaction is only natural), not Vriska.

I perceive John as the type as the type who'd actually listen to aforementioned forewarnings, and he's kneejerkingly followed Vriska's advice before.

Also, it's important to compartmentalize Vriska lying to John about seeing his father again as a separate action from Vriska simply keeping John sufficiently preoccupied to effectively prevent him from reuniting with Dad and running into Jack.

...Simply put, there are ways Vriska could have ensured John's survival without outright lying to him on an issue as important to John as seeing his father again. It may have been a slightly more difficult conversation, but it could have been done. Just lie in telling John that he absolutely has to do the Tumor task now in order to give Rose a chance to succeed in her quest, without actually promising him that he'd see his father again.

[Kim]

You honestly think he's going to listen to Vriska's "BUT YOU'LL DIE!" bit rather than run off to save his father? Every protagonist in everything ever is going to run off to save their parent figure because they love their parent figure and either succeed magically, which wouldn't happen here, or get stopped before they can kill themselves. Vriska could stop him by having him fall asleep, but then he can't accomplish anything worthwhile because he'll be asleep.

Her lying to him about seeing his father again could also be seen as a lie so that he will go after the Tumor. If John feels safe in knowing he'll see his dear old Dad again, he won't worry about it while doing the important stuff he'll have to do. If she dances around the answer or whatnot while that's the current thing on his mind, he will worry about it while trying to go after the Tumor, assuming he listens at all. Bear in mind that while John normally listens to Vriska, he's never before been in a situation where he's listened to her knowing that someone is going to die, as far as I can recall, so your assumption that he'll do as she says like a polite little Earthbaby is largely unfounded.

[Hyndrays]

Can't we all just agree that none of these hypotheticals matter and that Vriska is a bluh bluh huge bitch.

[Kim]

Can't we all just agree that none of these hypotheticals matter and that Vriska is a bluh bluh huge bitch.

I think she is. That's why I love her. But I don't think she is for this particular thing.

[Hyndrays]

I know this bit of the conversation has been long past, but why the heck does everyone hate Eridan ;-;

He was the troll that acted most like me >_<
Plus he was hilarious, and it's not like he wanted to kill Fef and Kan >_< It just kinda.... happened. Mostly Sollux's fault. :P

BLUH >_<

[Kim]

He has no positive traits, is irredeemably pathetic, all his attempts to flirt with others make me want to smack him in the head with a brick, and he's rarely amusing except to see get his comeuppance for all his awfulness.

[Hyndrays]

I find him hilarious in the sense that he can.....Or used to be able to just science pimp slap anybody @_@

Especially sollux. Hate him >:L

[Hyndrays]

Sorry to doublepost :?

You can't say that one chatlog between him and Karkat about the angels wasn't funny

[Kim]

You know you can just edit your posts, right?

Angles was kind of funny, but once again I was laughing at how he screwed himself over and not really anything about him in particular.

[Loyal]

Eridan is funny in the sense that we laugh at him, and not with him.

Also, "pimp slap with a science wand" isn't a character trait, especially considering he had it for all of like a month or so.

With that said, if you feel Eridan's behavior is similar to yours, it's probably a good sign that you should reevaluate yourself. Eridan is not a role model, is not a goal you should aspire to reach, is not someone to emulate, under any circumstances, whatsoever.

[Hyndrays]

Hmm :I

Either way.
I want Kanaya to die a terrible death at this point.

Edit: To loyal, I know, But me and my 2 others friends all read Homestuck and we just throw references in to our everyday conversations flowingly, and it's hilarious.
In the same sense, we all have our certain trolls that act the most like us, Mine being Eridan, the other two being Sollux and Terezi, whenever we XBL Text msg eachother we also use our trolls text quirks and stuff. So naturally i would be sad that mine died. We have actually gone to the extent of changing our GTs to the troll name and then the trollian handle.

Quite extreme. But it is so worth it.

[Kim]

Kanaya is the best troll.

[Krylo]

Kanaya is like, third or fourth best troll.

Edit: Eridan is like third worst. And those worse than him are only such because they didn't get enough screen time.

[Hyndrays]

Gamzee was the best troll if you think about it :S
Edit: In a sense of actually trolling i mean. Not so much the murdering part. Although i rather like that too. :P

[Bard The 5th LW]

He pretty much started the fighty between him and Sollux. Its not like any rational person would have done anything else if they believed it was in their abilities. He then killed Fef, killed ANY chance of the troll surviving, which goaded Kanaya into attacking.

He more or less killed those people in cold blood.

[Solid Snake]

Kanaya is the best troll.

NonCon is right.

In related news, it's always a bit discouraging to note that a disproportionate percentage of Andrew's statistically predominantly young, male audience finds a character like Eridan someone to admire and emulate. I appreciate the fact that Andrew actually granted a character like Kanaya the opportunity to wreak vengeance upon him. At best, Eridan was enjoyable insofar as he was laughably pathetic and fun to mock; at worst, he seemed like a bundle of sociopathic, misogynistic, genocidal desperation. While many of us might relate to his poor luck in relationships, Eridan's reactions to said failures were objectively atrocious; and it isn't like there isn't another character who also had foul luck and yet handled her ensuing loneliness in an infinitely more rational and preferable way.

...and if you think to relate to him because his utter inability to properly interpret social cues, well...there's always Tavros.

[Bard The 5th LW]

it's always a bit discouraging to note that a disproportionate percentage of Andrew's statistically predominantly young, male audience finds a character like Eridan someone to admire and emulate

Seems like he is the only one I've seen. Hopefully, no one else aspires to Eridan like him.

But yeah, Eridan is pretty much the worst.

[Solid Snake]

Seems like he is the only one here. Hopefully, no one else aspires to Eridan like him.


I've heard and argued with several in the past on the MSPA forums, most notably after Feferi's death, when several (predominantly young male) forumites were actually applauding Eridan for killing her because she rejected him and destroyed their moirail relationship or something.

...Granted, a lot of that stupidity dissipated once Eridan really went off the deep end by destroying the matriorb and killing Kanaya.

[Hyndrays]

I don't 'relate to him in that sense.
Mostly in being dramatic. :o

And to Bard, not really because, he went up to talk to Fef, and then Sollux proceeded to flip the fuck out, and then he tried to 'stop him', leading into the duel where Eridan kicked his ass. Then Feferi got mad at him for just pretty much defending himself, and proceeded to attack, and in retaliation accidentally killed her (It would have been extremely hard for him to not kill her while retaliating with that wand :P) and then Kanaya (from my perspective) was just kinda lookin at him, and apparently he though she was about to attack, so he destroyed the matriorb (not sure why......) and then her.

So only about 1/2 of it was cold blood, since sollux wasn't killed but he didn't care for him either.

Edit: While Equius represents my zodiac sign and i can admit i do see a bit of him in my future ( minus the sweating problem O.o), For the meanwhile, Eridan is most like me. And that being said, I do generally despise most of humanity, just in the sense that there are so many people that are complete douchebags. =.=

[Bard The 5th LW]

Really? Like, while Hussie has actually refrained from really showing an opinion on Vriska on the formspring, he has openly said that Eridan is meant to be taken negatively.

My hopes have been destroyed, thanks a lot Snake.

edit: He was about to join Jack Noir (or try to). Jack Noir wasnt to kill them. If Eridan joins Jack, his goals would coincide with Jack's/ That would thus involve killing all the trolls. Sollux was engaged in pre-emptive self defense.

If he thought Kanaya was about to attack, he would have killed her immediately. The fact of the matter is that he decided to make her attack by destroying the matriorb. Destroying the matriorb was pretty much the final nail on the coffin as for any chance for redemption.

[Solid Snake]

...Let's be clear, though:

Eridan had just told Sollux and Feferi that he was planning to work with Jack Noir.

...Which meant Eridan would tell Jack where the trolls were hiding.
...Which meant Eridan effectively was threatening to kill all the trolls but himself and Feferi if she joined him.

Remember at this point, none of the trolls present know that god-tier Aradia has stopped Jack Noir in his tracks. At this point, everyone is rationally assuming that Jack is searching for them and they may not have much time left.

...It would have been irresponsible for Sollux not to challenge Eridan to a fight immediately and at least restrain him, if not kill him.

...Eridan was by no means simply acting in self-defense.

EDIT: Dammit, took too long typing that and was Ninja'd.

[Solid Snake]

Really? Like, while Hussie has actually refrained from really showing an opinion on Vriska on the formspring, he has openly said that Eridan is meant to be taken negatively.


The sheer fact that Andrew had to even clarify that Eridan was in fact intended to be a douche in the first place was arguably at least partially in response to the fact that several forumites weren't capable of getting that on their own.

...I witnessed it firsthand. It wasn't pretty. The (weak as hell) rationalization was basically that moirails were pretty big deals, and in severing her moirail relationship with Eridan, Feferi had like destroyed his sanity or some shit, leaving him with no sane partner to restrain himself from violence.

...While that argument can be made it carries the nasty undertone of assuming that Feferi has an obligation to remain in a relationship she has no interest in continuing, which sounds, well, paternalistic to say the least. How many women have felt "forced" to remain in relationships with dangerous men due to the possibility that they might react in violence against them the moment they break things off? Would any of us argue an obligation on their part to remain miserable just to prevent a man's meltdown?

...Yeah.

[Loyal]

And to Bard, not really because, he went up to talk to Fef, and then Sollux proceeded to flip the fuck out, and then he tried to 'stop him', leading into the duel where Eridan kicked his ass. Then Feferi got mad at him for just pretty much defending himself, Dear Christ, what. No, this is just wrong, falsehood, a lie. Go view the flash again.

and in retaliation accidentally killed her (It would have been extremely hard for him to not kill her while retaliating with that wand :P)You don't point a death-ray at someone, fire, and then claim it was an accident when they die.

and then Kanaya (from my perspective) was just kinda lookin at him, and apparently he though she was about to attack, so he destroyed the matriorb (not sure why......) and then her.Ridiculous. Judging by the bold part even you can see this.

So only about 1/2 of it was cold blood, since sollux wasn't killed but he didn;t care for him either. "It's cool guys, he's alive! Totally doesn't count!"

[IHateMakingNames]

Hey, trolls are supposed to kill. Eridan is fine.

Vriska is a nice lady too.

[Hyndrays]

Okay, Loyal, while that is hilarious :P
You guys may want to flip back a page and view my last post because i made an edit to it and the new page was started almost immediately after, so im not sure.

Edit may help bring the arguement to a close but who knows.

But anyways, When you guys actually go deep down into it like that i see what you mean.

To the first quote, Yes, but when Sollux challenged him to a duel, What was Eridan supposed to do, let him just try his best (and in that most likely kill Eridan) with his psychic powers?

And to the second quote, he still liked Feferi, and it was obvious that after killing Feferi, (And Kanaya who was actually one of his relative 'friends'.) that he was left a little more than mentally unhinged.

[Bard The 5th LW]

When Eridan killed two people, he strutted out the room and went off to kill his other ex-girlfriend.

When Vriska killed Tavros she stopped for a moment to think about what she did and discussed her feelings with a friend.

[Loyal]

Edit may help bring the arguement to a close but who knows.It doesn't actually. It is, in fact, completely unrelated.

To the first quote, Yes, but when Sollux challenged him to a duel, What was Eridan supposed to do, let him just try his best (and in that most likely kill Eridan) with his psychic powers?Let's turn this around on the actual culprit: Eridan had just announced an intent to go to Jack, give away the position of all remaining trolls, and doom those who remained alive. What was Sollux supposed to do, just sit back and let Eridan give his best go at interspecies diplomacy?

And to the second quote, he still liked Feferi, and it was obvious that after killing Feferi, (And Kanaya who was actually one of his relative 'friends'.) that he was left a little more than mentally unhinged. No, it's not. It's not obvious, and it's not apparant, because it didn't happen. We didn't see any remarkable change in his demeanor after he killed Fef or Kan. In fact, after he killed Kanaya, we did not see him at all till the three-way showdown between him, Vriska, and Gamzee (not counting past-Eridan while he was killing angels). Please explain where you're drawing this conclusion.

Or more to the point, quit making things up.

[Art of Hilt]

Hey, trolls are supposed to kill. Eridan is fine.


To be fair, trolls aren't supposed to sabotage and betray their own species by destroying their final means of natural reproduction.
So.
It's possible that Eridan is shit even by troll standards.


Also, man, Jack Noir. You're such a- such- you're a BAD DOG.
BAD DOG.
YOU'RE SUCH A BAD, HORRIBLE DOG AND- oh god I can't stay mad at you you're like an adorable tiny puppy that drags in the corpses of squirrels you caught as presents and pisses all over the carpet and commits mass genocide and you're so proud of it

[Hyndrays]

Homestuck Wikia my friend @_@

Edit: Either way, I would very much prefer to let this conversation wander elsewhere, I do not very much like being opposed by... well.....Everyone x.x

[Bard The 5th LW]

The wiki has no canon authority, its almost all conjecture and fanon.

More to the point, Hussie has flat stated in the old formspring that Eridan is portrayed as being in the wrong and has more or less no remorse.

[Hyndrays]

I'll just keep to myself on this matter x.x

[Marc v4.0]

That is likely for the best, arguing a completely wrong stance doesn't enamour one to other people (Excluding politics).


Getting back to the previous conversation, I love how "Vriska keeps John from getting his stupid goodguy self killed" is BAD VRISKA. HUGE BITCH. the same as "Vriska tells John his dad is dead/going to die and john is emotionally shattered/physically slaughtered" is BAD VRISKA. HUGE BITCH.

I am not a fan of Fairy Princess PlotDevice MacGuffin, but give her a fucking break on this one, jesus.

[Specterbane]

Just to put in my two bits, and hopefully not too much fuel to a fire, I can understand someone relating to Eridan; especially if that person is a bit younger. My take on him is that Eridan is extremely focused on himself and the many issues plaguing him he sees around himself, which he feel impotent to do anything about. To add to this he seems to have such a high idea of himself that he feels it's beneath him to ask for help, yet he pines for it.

That's about as sensible as I can think to make him, and there are huge problems with it that have been covered to death so many pages ago. But the short of it is that Eridan isn't something to aspire to, the traits he shows are better used as a study of massive social flaws and how to avoid them.

Don't want to read that? Fine, the moral of Eridan: Chill the fuck out, don't be a douche.

[synkr0nized]

Someone refresh my memory.

Sgrub and Sburb aren't in the same game, right?
Did we already merge universes or is that still waiting to happen? I just want to be sure I have the right idea about Jack and where he actually is and where everyone else is / timelines.

i.e. Aradia time-froze Jack but he's killed John's dad and Rose's mom. The latter is happening before the former, right? Or have I let myself become too apathetic and forget that the sessions are connected and it's happening after Aradia encountered him?

[Marc v4.0]

Time-Freeze Jack is in the future(For this Jack) and the Troll session, Tea-Party Jack is the presentish and the Kid session

But the Troll session is sort of the past since the Trolls are using their current situation out of time to contact the future but it could also be the present because they are outside of time and could be pretty much anywhen they felt like it if they were inclined

Also, time travel can suck a knob in Hell

Basically, Tea-Party Jack is going to become Time-Freeze Jack in his personal future, irregardless of time shit

[Art of Hilt]

The sessions are still separate, and so far what we've seen are all separate universes in their own temporal spheres.

It's easier to think of it in terms of Noir's personal timeline. From his perspective, he's in the kids' session first, and then he's put through a Scratch into the trolls' session, where Aradia eventually freezes him and that's the last we see so far. In between there is a huge unknown blank where he somehow gets blood on his arm and is put through the Scratch, two events which we know will happen but have not seen.

[synkr0nized]

OK, yes, it would probably have been more correct for me to write that from Jack's perspective, but you've confirmed for me that I have it right. Thank you; I wanted to make sure I hadn't accidentally glossed over something important. Lately I haven't been as motivated to keep track of those kinds of things what with my period of Homestuck-Hatin' going on post-Kanaya-death, but I'm getting back on the horse.

[Locke cole]

irregardless

*PUNCH*

[Specterbane]

And we also know Jack with keep Cal up to when he has the bloodied hand, via dream cloud (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005451).

But that doesn't do much to explain who's blood that is. All we know is that he doesn't seem to have Cal when he enters the Troll's session but does have the bloodied hand, so is it another doomed Dave? Rufio? A poor Luck Dragon? Or perhaps Hussie himself? Only time will tell.

[EVILNess]

Okay.

I give up on Homestuck. I am waiting for it to be finished before I read another strip of this mind-screwing cluster-fuck of time travel, alternate dimensions, and CRYPTIC BULLSHIT.

I am going to wait for a method to this madness.

(This is not me disparaging Homestuck, I actually really like it. I am just confused, and it gets worse with every strip, not better like it should.)

[Krylo]

Jack is bored.

How is that confusing?

[EVILNess]

It's more of an over-arching theme I am finding... I have even re-read the damn thing.

It's like it was made specifically to make my brain go "DERP."

Plus I like reading it in one big sitting, so I SHALL WAIT.

[Geminex]

Ten boonbucks say you won't last past the next flash.

[Dracorion]

We just saw Jack store Cal inside himself. That means he could very well still have Cal when he enters the troll session.

[Marc v4.0]

*PUNCH*

edit: Never mind, I figured it out and I still really don't give a shit

[Aldurin]

I want to see Jack try to wield Cal as a weapon Bro-style, but he'd probably need an opponent that's not too easy to just slice in half.

[POS Industries]

You know, as I recall, the popular assumption was that Cal was merely a dream manifestation from Dave's psyche due to the traumatic experience of having grown up with that creepy-ass clown puppet his whole life, which never would have happen if he hadn't manifested Cal in his dream in the first place. But it occurs to me that none of that dream manifestation bullshit doesn't seem to happen any other time, since Derse and Prospit aren't actually dream worlds, they're just perfectly regular physical planets inhabited by bodies the kids control when they're asleep.

So the more reasonable explanation would be, given this last string of updates, that Cal is merely a construct of Derse, one that apparently always held a special place in the heart of Jack Noir and who just happened to find Dream Dave and got its shits and giggles from terrorizing him until Dream Rose showed up, chucked him out the window, and eventually made his way back in time to Earth with Baby Bro.

[Art of Hilt]

so what you're saying is, theoretically, there is a troll Cal in the trolls' session

how horrifying

[POS Industries]

so what you're saying is, theoretically, there is a troll Cal in the trolls' session

how horrifying
Indeed, it is not off the table that there is a second Cal...

...and that he is currently in Gamzee's possession.