Homesuck: Vriska Rising [Archive] - Page 33

Locke cole

08-11-2011, 10:00 AM

True. Perhaps he, being an eternal, time-spanning demon, planned this so that another universe would become doomed.

However, it seems like, even now, Universe U1 is doomed to die, because "he is already here" and only shows up when the universe dies.

edit: And of course I'm excited to see The Sufferer. I've been interested in his story ever since Mindfang's journal spoke of him.

Loyal

08-11-2011, 01:04 PM

On a side note, it's interesting that Scratch somehow failed to notice Aradia turning the Wall back on.

IHateMakingNames

08-11-2011, 01:10 PM

Is the game disk still being repaired?

Arcanum

08-11-2011, 01:40 PM

And another thing: the way Scratch talks about the "unfathomable cascade of misfortune" leading to the session's failure and the universe's destruction as Lord English's calling card... It almost sounds like he's implying that it's Lord English who is truly responsible for Universe U2's cancer, rather than Karkat, Gamzee, or Vriska.

Actually it's not the unfathomable cascade of misfortune that is Lord English's calling card, it's the glitch itself. The misfortune is caused by the glitch, as is the clusterfuck of Mindfang and the others not being spawned by their own session. As far as I can tell, what that glitch is exactly is still unknown.

What I find particularly interesting though is the lack of that symptom in the kids' session. So Lord English will/would never enter their universe. But I have to wonder if that's because their universe is about to be Scratched (and thus the Scratched Universe could contain LE's calling card), or if he's aware that Jack is on the verge of destroying their universe (so he doesn't even have to bother), or if their universe was just never slated for destruction (though considering the presence of the White Cueball I find this one hard to believe).

BitVyper

08-11-2011, 02:11 PM

I wonder if Karkat will ever remember as the Sufferer did.

Locke cole

08-11-2011, 02:12 PM

That question will probably be answered when we figure out why the Sufferer remembered.

Intern Nin

08-11-2011, 02:19 PM

What I find particularly interesting though is the lack of that symptom in the kids' session. So Lord English will/would never enter their universe. But I have to wonder if that's because their universe is about to be Scratched (and thus the Scratched Universe could contain LE's calling card), or if he's aware that Jack is on the verge of destroying their universe (so he doesn't even have to bother), or if their universe was just never slated for destruction (though considering the presence of the White Cueball I find this one hard to believe).

Actually, their session did have that symptom in the doomed timeline, but then Typheus killed that John so that that Dave could go back fix things so that Alpha John makes all the paradox babies.

Solid Snake

08-11-2011, 02:41 PM

So when the Kids do their own version of this, Mom, Bro, Nanna and Grandpa will be on the next version of their adventure?

BitVyper

08-11-2011, 03:09 PM

So when the Kids do their own version of this, Mom, Bro, Nanna and Grandpa will be on the next version of their adventure?

I kinda think that's probably not the normal way for it to work, but I guess who knows. Could be.

Specterbane

08-11-2011, 03:17 PM

What I find interesting is that this means LE left his calling card into the Kids session too right? Doesn't that mean we could have LE be the true final boss?

Solid Snake

08-11-2011, 03:20 PM

I kinda think that's probably not the normal way for it to work, but I guess who knows. Could be.

Could that explain the whole "Jade's grandson" thing?

rpgdemon

08-11-2011, 03:41 PM

It's worth mentioning, that the kids weren't the ones who were originally supposed to go questing, right? It was supposed to be Grandpa Harley?

Art of Hilt

08-11-2011, 04:59 PM

Could that explain the whole "Jade's grandson" thing?

Yes, definitely.
Although Grandpa is actually Jade's ecto-father, she still regards him as her grandfather.
If there's a Guardian Swap, then there would be a reset Grandpa in Jade's position, who would have an ecto-mother in reset Jade in Grandpa's position, and the reset Grandpa would regard the reset Jade as his grandmother much as our Jade regards her ecto-father as her grandfather.
Since it looks like J is the one who initiated conversation with Jade, then he was the one who defined himself as Jade's trans-dimensional alternate reality grandson, even though he himself is Jade's trans-dimensional alternate reality grandfather.

Also YES MY BODY IS READY FOR THE SUFFERER

YES PLEASE

Locke cole

08-11-2011, 05:32 PM

But this only works if there was a Scratch already, and one of two things happened:

A: Grandpa Harley remembers the previous session, a la the Sufferer

B: J escaped the Scratch like the kids are planning on doing.

Arcanum

08-11-2011, 06:07 PM

Actually, their session did have that symptom in the doomed timeline, but then Typheus killed that John so that that Dave could go back fix things so that Alpha John makes all the paradox babies.

I don't know if that would count though. While in the doomed timeline John never had the chance to make the ecto-bio-babies, he was still destined to do it. Meanwhile it seems implied that even in the Alpha Timeline of the Pre-Scratch Troll Session (or AT of the PrSTS for you acronym lovers) the Trolls never preformed the proper ecto-biology to create themselves and their ancestors.

In other words the Kids' session was destined to create the Kids and their Guardians, meanwhile the PrSTS was destined to not create the Trolls and their ancestors.

Aldurin

08-11-2011, 08:57 PM

Doesn't that mean we could have LE be the true final boss?

This was obvious ever since he was introduced and described. It might just be that it's been obvious for so long you stopped noticing.

Premmy

08-12-2011, 08:02 AM

Hmm... (http://nepspin.com/)

Locke cole

08-12-2011, 12:46 PM

More of that guy voicing things. (http://www.youtube.com/user/MasterYorgi)

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EK7f5YQCYU) is some of his most adorable work.

rpgdemon

08-12-2011, 12:56 PM

Totally not what I'd do for Gamzee.

Bard The 5th LW

08-12-2011, 01:03 PM

Oh lord (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JIK0CWWZwA&feature=related)

Premmy

08-12-2011, 01:45 PM

It's okay, Nepeta has instant bitches (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-z1eMCqhU)

Art of Hilt

08-12-2011, 06:00 PM

UPDATE
WHEN TEREZI SAID THEY HAD THE BEST TROLL JEGUS
SHE WASN'T LYING

BitVyper

08-12-2011, 06:05 PM

So Karkat mocked Gamzee's religion while wearing the sign of an ancient, forbidden cult.

Kim

08-12-2011, 06:06 PM

Hussie broke the fourth wall.

*sigh*

Art of Hilt

08-12-2011, 06:15 PM

Technically, he broke the fifth wall.
According to formspring, the fifth wall is the wall separating two narrators from each other.
If he was being literal about this, then that means Doc Scratch can finally stop talking.

BitVyper

08-12-2011, 06:17 PM

Hussie broke the fourth wall.

*sigh*

BOOYEAH!

Locke cole

08-12-2011, 06:23 PM

...wait. This is actually extremely important.

He's opened a passage from his mansion to Jade's room via a 1-meter opening in the Fourth Wall.

And then he smashed through the Fifth Wall into Doc Scratch's ship.

In other words, there is now a means of transport between Universe U1 and U2, by way of Hussie's parlor.

BitVyper

08-12-2011, 06:24 PM

That's a good point.

Arcanum

08-12-2011, 06:33 PM

He's opened a passage from his mansion to Jade's room via a 1-meter opening in the Fourth Wall.

Actually it's 2 Fourth Walls separated by a yard, but yeah technically if someone only broke through Jade's fourth wall and not the second one they could enter Hussie's house (which would mean breaking the wall and then entering it, but I have a feeling whatever goes through Jade's fourth wall is going to smash through and brink the coat into the next fourth wall. Just a hunch though)

And then he smashed through the Fifth Wall into Doc Scratch's ship.

You mean his moon? They aren't on that ship anymore.

In other words, there is now a means of transport between Universe U1 and U2, by way of Hussie's parlor.

Technically yes. If it were revealed that Hussie's house is yellow on the outside then everyone would go "HOLY SHIT" and then Hussie would chuckle and be all like "Red Herring, hahaha" (once again, just a hunch)

Locke cole

08-12-2011, 06:38 PM

???

Pretty sure the yellow yard is that yardstick separating the walls.

And whatever. Ship, moon, it's in the Alternain universe.

By the way, I was reminded of this bit of text from Karkat:

AND MY SIGN IS A PICTOGRAPHIC SYMBOL THAT LOOSELY TRANSLATES AS "PLEASE HIKE THESE PANTS UP TO THIS GUY'S ARMPITS, CHAIN HIM TO A FLOGGING JUT, AND MAKE A FUCKING EXAMPLE OUT OF THIS SORRY SACK OF SHIT."

Just sort of passed us by, it did.

Solid Snake

08-12-2011, 06:40 PM

Wake me up when we're in Act 6
Note: We will never ever ever get to Act 6

(I will say however that this update was altogether intriguing.)

Locke cole

08-12-2011, 06:43 PM

I'm going to guess that we'll hit act 6 at the end of next moth.

So I'll wake you up when September ends.

Arcanum

08-12-2011, 07:02 PM

???

Pretty sure the yellow yard is that yardstick separating the walls.

And whatever. Ship, moon, it's in the Alternain universe.

By the way, I was reminded of this bit of text from Karkat:

Just sort of passed us by, it did.

Yeah but the fourth wall itself isn't open, it's just the distance between two fourth walls (If this response doesn't make sense then just ignore it. I have a feeling we're both on different pages and aren't entirely sure about what the other is talking about). Speaking of which, do we even know where that second fourth wall leads?

Also, nice memory. Totally forgot about that line.

Locke cole

08-12-2011, 07:39 PM

Not my memory, someone else's. I was reminded of it, rather than remembering it myself.

And ah, right. Well, all that needs to happen is the other wall needs to be broken, to form a tunnel.

Bard The 5th LW

08-12-2011, 09:29 PM

Aaaannnd Karkat is the Messiah. The second coming of Troll Jegus you might say.

Please, Hussie, don't do anything extreme.

edit: also, this means Karkat and Gamzee are both competing Messiahs. there destinies have been intertwined, one is the speaker of the vast honk, and the other of the vast expletive

e2: do notice how high the sufferer wears his pants

Aldurin

08-12-2011, 10:22 PM

Vast Expletive is the best part of the whole story.

Locke cole

08-12-2011, 10:31 PM

"FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" etc.

Bard The 5th LW

08-12-2011, 10:35 PM

My current guess is that this Aradia is from the once peaceful world the sufferer remembers.

POS Industries

08-13-2011, 06:09 PM

And with this update, all but Aradiancestor is officially accounted for.

Loyal

08-13-2011, 09:34 PM

Hussie's going to interrupt the narrative when it gets to the best part, I just know it.

And then we get a dozen pages of Hussie fighting Doc Scratch with a broom.

Locke cole

08-13-2011, 09:37 PM

It already got to the best part, I think.

So now we have the Dolorosa, the Disciple, and the Psionic.

And we know for whom Darkleer became an Expatriate.

Loyal

08-13-2011, 09:48 PM

Suff's story isn't quite done yet though, I don't think.

Regardless, it's also highly probable that Dolorosa was the slave Mindfang wrote her porn diaries about, and consequently the one Dualscar killed. Parallels upon parallels.

Ryong

08-13-2011, 09:57 PM

When I saw the Disciple, I thought she was Mindfang, but green for some reason and then oh okay she's Nepeta's ancestor. And holy crap, Dolorosa's tall.

I wonder what happened with the Psionic.

Art of Hilt

08-13-2011, 10:25 PM

Kanaya's ancestor was Karkat's ancestor's mommy?

http://i54.tinypic.com/1628k00.gif

Oh god my heart is melting so hard it's soaking straight through the floor

Bard The 5th LW

08-13-2011, 10:27 PM

this is pretty interesting. certainly puts a new light on Karkat and kanaya's friendship

Solid Snake

08-13-2011, 10:29 PM

Why is it that I would much rather this comic be about The Sufferer and His Friends than about anything else right now

Seriously Andrew just this once
If you want to take a detour
With like a Sufferer Intermission
Starring all the Ancestors who now appear to be infinitely more amazing than other characters
Totally with you Bro

Loyal

08-13-2011, 10:38 PM

Totally with you BroMan, could you imagine what it'd be like if the Ancestors were trolling the Parents.

Solid Snake

08-13-2011, 10:43 PM

Man, could you imagine what it'd be like if the Ancestors were trolling the Parents.

...
......Okay now this absolutely has to happen
I don't even care if it makes absolutely no sense given that they are in completely different universes and Sgrub and Sburb wouldn't have even started
The laws themselves shall be bent

If only because I want to see The Sufferer hate-crush on Dad before meeting the Disciple
And also because I want to see Bro and The Grand Highblood in an epic rap-off
...and Bro and The Summoner in the worst rap-off in the history of two universes

Aldurin

08-13-2011, 11:39 PM

As much as I keep trying to think about this new revelation, Hussie's impending rampage through Doc's mansion is getting my attention more.

Solid Snake

08-13-2011, 11:54 PM

As much as I keep trying to think about this new revelation, Hussie's impending rampage through Doc's mansion is getting my attention more.

Any time Andrew personally interacts with his narrative as if he was a character therein I lose 100 writer's respect points for him

IHateMakingNames

08-13-2011, 11:57 PM

I wonder what happened with the Psionic.
He probably became the Empresses' bitch. He had a prestigious fate, and the whole Sollux/Feferi thing.

Scratch Aradia is probably Ancestor Aradia as some one mentioned, since Aradia's ancestor is the only one not revealed yet. We haven't actually seen the Empress, but she will probably be in the next update with Sollux's ancestor.

stefan

08-13-2011, 11:59 PM

Any time Andrew personally interacts with his narrative as if he was a character therein I lose 100 writer's respect points for him

I don't see why.

Art of Hilt

08-14-2011, 12:00 AM

Any time Andrew personally interacts with his narrative as if he was a character therein I lose 100 writer's respect points for him

He's not interacting with the narrative, he's just interacting with the narration.

Pip Boy

08-14-2011, 12:00 AM

Don't tell me you expected to have all this talk about the 4th wall NOT lead up to some author self insertion.

Solid Snake

08-14-2011, 12:02 AM

Don't tell me you expected to have all this talk about the 4th wall NOT lead up to some author self insertion.

You're assuming I liked anything to do with the 4th Wall in the first place

Still, you all needn't worry so knee-jerkingly. Andrew also gained +9,101 Writer's Points for the Sufferer backstory. He's still over nine-thousand

Locke cole

08-14-2011, 12:46 AM

It is a bit dubious that he's using this 5th wall loophole to squeeze past his previous promise about how much he'd actually interfere with the story.

Bard The 5th LW

08-14-2011, 01:09 AM

What if he maybe grabs disc 2 and steals back the narration?

Aldurin

08-14-2011, 01:17 AM

I think the measured level of influence has yet to show up, so the whole length thing is still open.

Marc v4.0

08-14-2011, 08:26 AM

He's not interacting with the narrative, he's just interacting with the BANNER.

little more accurate

Arcanum

08-14-2011, 11:58 AM

To be fair Hussie is still locked in Aradia's room. The best he can do is wait for Scratch to come back (after the Sufferer's tale is finished (hopefully)) before whacking him with the broom. I hope what he said on formspring about just cosplaying as his patron troll's god tier was the truth, and that he doesn't use stupid space powers to get out of the room.

POS Industries

08-14-2011, 06:39 PM

I'm preferring not to think about the banner too much because the author charging into his own story and having an active role in the plot is my least favorite thing to happen in this comic. Or any comic!

I long for a simpler, happier time. A time when everyone else was mad at Vriska and I thought it was funny. Being mad at Homestuck myself is much less enjoyable.

rpgdemon

08-14-2011, 08:39 PM

I honestly don't mind it. It feels natural, to me, and unforced. It's not like he's going, "HAY I'M A HERO!", he's just interacting with the fringe storytelling elements, like he always has.

Solid Snake

08-14-2011, 09:17 PM

Kim

08-14-2011, 09:31 PM

BitVyper

08-14-2011, 09:42 PM

I love it, to be honest. I've consistently found every single aspect of Homestuck enjoyable.

Solid Snake

08-14-2011, 09:50 PM

I love it, to be honest. I've consistently found every single aspect of Homestuck enjoyable.

I'm just really afraid of the possibility that a major plot point in Homestuck would not have happened if not for the author's personal intervention

...Which is kind of weird insofar as on a Meta level every twist and turn in a plotline is due to an author's passive intervention
But making the author an active character and having him enter the fictional universe and interact with fictional characters he's created just reeks of laziness, arrogance, sloppiness, or all three
(Not to mention apparently introducing the 4th Wall as an actual physical instrument existing in the universes for some reason.)

Mind you, I didn't mind the author as a character as much when he was just providing recaps

rpgdemon

08-14-2011, 09:55 PM

Didn't some famous play use the fourth wall as a real thing/a character was able to see through it to the audience?

BitVyper

08-14-2011, 10:05 PM

I'm basically completely okay with the possibility of Hussie's actions having a major effect, but I also have pretty much total faith that it will happen in such a way as to be totally unoffensive to me. Of course, Triangle and Robert is one of my all-time-favourite webcomics, and the author was a central figure in that. Then there's Jim Henson's Dog City, which is one of the best cartoons that ever was.

I really just don't have a problem with it provided it's not like, CAD or something, where the author-avatar is without narrative purpose. I like exploring the relationship between the creator and his work. It's a concept I think fits very well into the Homestuck story.

I suppose that doesn't mean you have to, but I don't really see a reason to be worried here. Then again, I pretty much always like how Hussie does things, so I really have no reason to be concerned. Before Homestuck and the Formspring, and everything else, I always felt that he tended to just write exactly what he wanted, and since then I feel my views have been validated. It rubs me the right way.

Didn't some famous play use the fourth wall as a real thing/a character was able to see through it to the audience?

It's not a new concept by a long shot. Plays tend to do it more as a way to involve the audience, but I saw a production of Company that played with the concepts a bit. The idea that there's a fourth wall to break is not even something that is inextricably bound to storytelling.

That's not really what this is about for people criticising it though; it's more specifically about having an author-insert. I think, anyway. Wouldn't want to put words in anyone's mouth.

Arcanum

08-14-2011, 10:25 PM

I don't get what the big deal is. If Hussie becomes involved in the story then it's just another character (one we've been aware of for some time) actually becoming involved instead of just being a passive observer/narrator. It's not like we're going to witness something happen, and then have the Hussie character wave his Author Wand and re-write it.

Character!Hussie is just a regular human from another Universe, who entered the Troll's universe through the fifth wall (so far). Yeah it's lazy to have a character in your story who is essentially you, but he's still just a character. Character!Hussie is breaking the fourth wall (the metaphysical one, not the one portrayed in the comic) in the same way that Scratch is; which is acknowledging the audience's existence and offering a narration that is unique from the "Standard Narration" of regular mundane panels.

The only differences between the two are 1) Scratch is omnipotent, and near-omniscient while Hussie is just a regular guy, and 2) Scratch has had an active involvement in the story for quite some time before becoming a narrator, while Hussie has been an author and narrator for quite some time before actually interacting with the story he's been creating/narrating.

And I think it's that second point that bothers people. It's easy to accept that this omnipotent/omniscient being is able to perceive what's beyond the fourth wall and interact with what's beyond it. Meanwhile having it revealed that the narrator and author (author possibly being the more "important" of the two) is an actual character that can get involved in the story pretty much goes against a lot of story telling rules.

That's just my take on it though.

Art of Hilt

08-14-2011, 11:50 PM

Update.
Translation: Battleship Condescension
Also HMM THAT LOGO LOOKS ALMOST FAMILIAR
IT'S ALMOST AS IF SOMEONE CALLED IT
AND THAT SOMEONE IS ME

Marc v4.0

08-14-2011, 11:57 PM

Pip Boy

08-15-2011, 12:03 AM

Seriously though it looks like hussie's role in things here is to pop up and be like "I AM GOING TO BE BIG HERO" and then accomplish nothing except silliness before fading back out of the story for a while until he pops back up later to repeat the cycle.

Solid Snake

08-15-2011, 12:17 AM

I like the strange viewpoint that while the author ALWAYS creates and shifts major plot points at their whim and desire by being the author of the story, seeing them do it is a sacrilege even when they are doing it within the limited scope of not actually interacting with the main narritive and only the side one.

As a general rule, I never fool myself so much as to think the Author ISN'T responsible for the direction of the story because The Author Is.

Uhh nah bro
I'm gonna go on record and say that there is in fact a difference between the author influencing the story the way an author is supposed to (by planning plot twists and writing unique characters with particular strengths and flaws in the context of a fictional story with a prototypical narrative structure) and influencing the story as a character in said work

I mean it'd be kind of annoying if you're having a great time watching LOST and suddenly Damon Lindelof shows up to personally explain the island's mystical properties to the castaways and help them defeat the Others.

Or you're watching a movie like Star Wars and George Lucas shows up and is like "Luke you're holding your lightsaber wrong, let me teach you the ways of the force."

Or you're watching My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic and the ponies are in a huge jam and suddenly LAUREN FAUST appears to rescue them

Or even if Brian Clevinger showed up and was like "Hey Black Mage, here's what you have to do in order to beat this boss. Also White Mage let's go make some babies"

Finally it'd be similarly annoying if you're having a great time reading Game of Thrones and suddenly George R.R. Martin...wait I guess he sort of did that with Wyman Manderly, never mind.

Marc v4.0

08-15-2011, 12:25 AM

Solid Snake

08-15-2011, 12:30 AM

Those are insertions of a creator clearly as Author into the medium with weight. This is more insertion of creator as transcriber and observing character himself. If it was just a cheap self-insertion to be all "lookit me I am the god of all this creation" he wouldn't have to wield a broom and look for Scratch, he'd just find him and snap his fingers. And by insertion, I meant he was a character already.

So..uhh, yeah bro

At the very least and even if you disagree with me on all other counts it's still awfully disruptive to the narrative when the gripping and rather tragic story of the Sufferer is interrupted by the author himself mucking around his own fictional narrative and demanding said narrative to cease.

I find that more annoying than funny, personally, but to each his own.

Locke cole

08-15-2011, 12:31 AM

I still want to know what's up with oth universes having MSPaint Adventures in some form. Dave and Jade were reading the Midnight Crew, and then the Crew themselves found a computer with a page from Homestuck loaded up.

So, what, is this same "in-story" Hussie the one who runs the webcomics in the respective universes, or is Andrew Hussie just a universal constant, like John Cusack?

edit: The Sufferer's story really hasn't been interrupted... yet. It's more like the Hussie thing is running parallel, and in a corner.

POS Industries

08-15-2011, 12:45 AM

Do...
...do POS and I...
...Actually agree on a criticism of Homestuck

IMPOSSIBLE
I know... I'm scared, too!

On the bright side...

Seriously though it looks like hussie's role in things here is to pop up and be like "I AM GOING TO BE BIG HERO" and then accomplish nothing except silliness before fading back out of the story for a while until he pops back up later to repeat the cycle.
...this happened, so I ain't even mad.

Also Dat Empress.

Kim

08-15-2011, 12:48 AM

...this happened, so I ain't even mad.Did it?

I mean, there's no reason to assume he's actually done, is there?

Art of Hilt

08-15-2011, 12:56 AM

I'd feel safe saying that the most Hussie is going to do is steal Disc 2 from Doc Scratch to take back the narration amidst isolated yet wacky shenanigans, assuming Doc Scratch just doesn't leave it for him somewhere.

POS Industries

08-15-2011, 01:12 AM

Did it?

I mean, there's no reason to assume he's actually done, is there?
You saw the wolf head.

Game over, man. Game over.

A Zarkin' Frood

08-15-2011, 06:52 AM

Can I be not the only one who sees Andrew Hussie as a comic relief character, please?
Or will people ignore that and claim the story got too serious again? Good times.

Locke cole

08-15-2011, 09:15 AM

"A new employment opportunity", eh?

she's totally Betty Crocker.

Kim

08-15-2011, 10:03 AM

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpyibsvonP1qi1w1ho1_400.gif

Loyal

08-15-2011, 10:57 AM

It occurs to me that this means Sassacre married The Empress.

He's not just a comedian extraordinaire, he's a true pioneer spirit, boldly coming where no man has before.

BitVyper

08-15-2011, 11:52 AM

Can I be not the only one who sees Andrew Hussie as a comic relief character, please?
Or will people ignore that and claim the story got too serious again? Good times.

He is comic relief, and that's an important purpose in itself, but that doesn't mean nothing is going on with him. We've had several secondary authors in the story - there's been Vriska essentially acting as a young fanfic author writing a self-insert Mary Sue. She's a fan of the story, but she's immature, so she doesn't so much have a relationship with the story as she does with her favourite character, so she ignores other aspects in favour of making him more important and powerful. She is marginally competant though, and you can see that she actually grows as a creator. She'll probably be writing decent smut one day, like her ancestor. Contrast the attempts of some other trolls to write themselves into the story (although in this case that's obviously not the only thing going on with them) that just kind of meander around and go nowhere. FF.net is littered with the corpses of barely-started fics.

Scratch is less like a fan creator and more like a legitimate secondary author who is critical of the original work and means to take it in his own direction. Because fuck all that silly meandering joke shit, and fuck Hussie. TROLLCESTORS! He's a pompous, egotistical ass who probably has an English degree. He's got a lot to say and do, and by god you're going to read his text walls about it. Not that his approach is wrong. I think he's a pretty good story teller.

Then there's Hussie's avatar, who isn't Hussie (as Hussie is responsible for ALL of this), but representative of the primary creator trying to keep control of his work. The conflict between his and Scratch's vision for the story is basically directly stated in the alt-text. It's all about Creative Control.

Homestuck as a whole is about Creation. This has been true since Act 1. It's littered with author figures trying to write their own stories on the Medium.

That's how I see it anyway.

A Zarkin' Frood

08-15-2011, 12:29 PM

Your talent to go on tangents and overanalyze things in a way that actually makes sense never ceases to impress me.

Until you started insulting Scratch I was gonna say he's Snake fanfic-inserting himself into the story to "fix" things according to his will against Andrew. But I don't want to insult my fellow forumites just because they dislike something I enjoy. But then you mentioned walls of text...

P.S.: No Snake, I love you.

EDIT: Calling it now, when scratch's sphere bursts there will be Snake's face! Or Andrew's.

Solid Snake

08-15-2011, 12:39 PM

Wait. What?

...That's not even me trying to be snarky, that's me completely not understanding what IG is talking about.

Locke cole

08-15-2011, 12:40 PM

I agree with Snake. What?

A Zarkin' Frood

08-15-2011, 12:43 PM

Snake, I was just saying that you are Doc Scratch. Is all.
Also that I love you.

Solid Snake

08-15-2011, 12:45 PM

But I don't want to insult my fellow forumites just because they dislike something I enjoy.

...Well, I will say this.
Why has this completely inaccurate characterization of me 'disliking' Homestuck still circulating around.

I mean you're presuming I dislike a story when I own a doll of one of its characters. And when I own three troll T-Shirts (Kanaya, Terezi, Sollux) and two human T-shirts (John and Dave.) And when I very nearly commissioned Matt Speroni to draw Homestuck artwork before Andrew came out on the record as saying he didn't want other people profiting from his characters. And when I'm a member of its own message board community. And when I am hosting a Mafia game right now on NPF about Homestuck.

A Zarkin' Frood

08-15-2011, 12:49 PM

Not disliking Homestock. Disliking Hussie's appearances.
Then again... why would he have to forcefully insert himself into the story if it weren't for Scratch, man. Shit be complicated. Don't want to know how Homestuck was like before Scratch appeared.

Locke cole

08-15-2011, 12:55 PM

I wonder how we'd react if Scratch just killed or detained or ejected Hussie wand went right back to his narrative.

Arcanum

08-15-2011, 06:00 PM

It has been confirmed (http://www.formspring.me/mspadventures/q/226514721979794728)

Don't worry, soon the alt text popups will contain entirely distinct, navigable web pages,[B] delving into lavish backstory on the 48 squiddle session and the big trollfrog they made.

48 squiddles made the Troll universe. Because we all know formspring answers are 100% the truth and nothing else

EDIT:

Also from formspring:
It should be noted that by breaking the 5th wall, I am not interfering with the story.

I am interfering with the way the story is currently being told.

Dunno if that will make any of you feel better or not.

Hopefully this means the Scratch intermission will be done soon, which hopefully means the act will be coming to a close.

Arcanum

08-16-2011, 12:51 AM

UPDATE

Interesting parallel between the Handmaid and Aradia, with the former being a "ghost" drifting through time. Also I have a feeling the Handmaid is going to recruit her younger self into LE's service

Aldurin

08-16-2011, 12:58 AM

I wonder what those arrows taste like?

POS Industries

08-16-2011, 01:01 AM

Well hey look at that it was Aradia's ancestor from the future the whole time what a completely unexpected turn of events.

A nice touch that she is, literally, the harbinger bringing rise to the apocalypse.

Arcanum

08-16-2011, 02:05 AM

Actually disregard my previous guess. The Handmaid is clearly going to recruit the Condesce into becoming Betty Crocker.

POS Industries

08-16-2011, 02:07 AM

That was pretty much the implication, yes.

She should arrive any minute now. When she does, she will find nothing but ruins and dust. If she cared to look closer, she would find a city of slain exiles, a man on the moon, and a pair of black lovers locked in a deadly dance. But whether she looks or not, one thing will find her with certainty.

A new employment opportunity.
Now, six centuries later, she would be given one last order to follow before her curse was lifted.

A simple recruitment job.

BitVyper

08-16-2011, 02:28 AM

Seems the lower castes are very short lived. Doc Scratch estimates between 24 and 48 years for the lowest.

Arcanum

08-16-2011, 02:32 AM

That was pretty much the implication, yes.

Yeah I wasn't really thinking when I wrote the first thing. I'd rather call out my own stupidity than have it pointed out :S

Locke cole

08-16-2011, 02:34 AM

I wonder what those arrows taste like?

Updates.

It is the sweetest taste of all.

It is what keeps us returning to the comic page and refreshing it hour after hour.

Addiction, you see, is a powerful thing.

Arhra

08-16-2011, 02:59 AM

Revising Ocelot

08-16-2011, 08:39 AM

http://i.imgur.com/Smg7g.png

Bard The 5th LW

08-16-2011, 12:04 PM

Note that while Aradia has the shortest natural lifespan, and the most personal interaction with death, she and her ancestor are of the few gifted with immortality.

Grimpond

08-16-2011, 03:18 PM

Not seeing anything RO

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche

08-16-2011, 03:21 PM

Note that while Aradia has the shortest natural lifespan, and the most personal interaction with death, she and her ancestor are of the few gifted with immortality.

Something I've been wondering about that; what's Karkat's lifespan gotta be like?

Further down the spectrum you go, the shorter. So his must be even less than Aradia's.

Marc v4.0

08-16-2011, 03:25 PM

That is assuming it works the same way for a Mutant strain that didn't even have a place, sign, or Lusus the first time it presented to adulthood

Amake

08-16-2011, 04:24 PM

It could explain Karkat's hyperactivity. And it makes him staying awake for 600 hours straight that much crazier. I like the idea. But yeah, we don't know for sure.

Dracorion

08-16-2011, 05:22 PM

nuts

Whoa! Language, mister!

Locke cole

08-16-2011, 06:57 PM

See, he is actually referring to mixed nuts, such as one would find in a snack bowl. Perfectly proportioned so that every handful, no matter how haphazardly taken, contains at least one peanut and cashew.

He is, after all, the perfect host.

Art of Hilt

08-17-2011, 02:24 AM

Updates as so delicious.
Also for god's sake Scratch don't you fucking start.

Arcanum

08-17-2011, 02:31 AM

And thus begins the story of the clock. Clockstuck, if you will. And it will be glorious.

Flarecobra

08-17-2011, 02:35 AM

Please Hussie... knock him out and get us back to the kids.

Solid Snake

08-17-2011, 02:46 AM

Welp.
Enabling Scratch to take over the narrative sure did speed up the Act, didn't it.

Art of Hilt

08-17-2011, 03:01 AM

...
Isn't this basically the regular story telling style, just without any flashes?
I'm betting everything is going to be the same, only with white text and a green backdrop for the next month or two.

IT'S LIKE I CAN TELL THE FUTURE

Fifthfiend

08-17-2011, 03:04 AM

I have never wanted anything in homestuck so much as I want to see Andrew Hussie beat the shit out of his character with his character's broom.

Marc v4.0

08-17-2011, 04:29 AM

This turn of events is both humorous and pleasing

BitVyper

08-17-2011, 05:03 AM

Eagerly awaiting the How-Doc-Scratch-Got-His-Clock intermission.

Aldurin

08-17-2011, 11:06 AM

I have the urge to make an image manip from Hussie's point of view with him wielding the broombristles and aiming his crosshairs dead center on Scratch's head.

rpgdemon

08-17-2011, 11:55 AM

Welp.
Enabling Scratch to take over the narrative sure did speed up the Act, didn't it.

Well, it enabled Hussie to talk about the Trollcestors directly. Without Scratch, I can't think of how he'd have done it aside from diaries, et cetera.

Locke cole

08-17-2011, 11:57 AM

And it's obvious and predictable that this "clock story" is about to be interrupted. What with Scratch musing about how long and complicated the story is going to be.

Arcanum

08-17-2011, 12:08 PM

And it's obvious and predictable that this "clock story" is about to be interrupted. What with Scratch musing about how long and complicated the story is going to be.

Don't jinx it! I have never been more excited about anything Homestuck than I am about the Clockstuck intermission.

Menarker

08-17-2011, 12:22 PM

The banner alt text struck me as amusing.

Hussie is drawn as barely taller than Doc and yet he describes him as 4 ft tall.

Man, Hussie is quite a dwarf!

Kim

08-17-2011, 03:00 PM

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp05gtbdl31qirl1wo1_500.png

Loyal

08-17-2011, 04:22 PM

In other news, it seems the fourth song (Shatterface (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJQJbjvZXfo)) in this page (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003620) was replaced with something else.

Pretty catchy if I may say so.

Flarecobra

08-17-2011, 04:50 PM

The banner alt text struck me as amusing.

Hussie is drawn as barely taller than Doc and yet he describes him as 4 ft tall.

Man, Hussie is quite a dwarf!

Keep in mind, it's in "Scribble Mode" meaning it's going to have bad art, and indicates silliness.

Locke cole

08-17-2011, 05:36 PM

Keep in mind, it's in "Scribble Mode" meaning it's going to have bad art, and indicates silliness.

But in the "main" panel below the banner, you can see both in the same shot in "sprite" mode, and Hussie is still only a few inches taller than Scratch.

BitVyper

08-17-2011, 06:23 PM

Don't jinx it! I have never been more excited about anything Homestuck than I am about the Clockstuck intermission.

Yeah, I'd hate to get clockblocked.

rpgdemon

08-17-2011, 06:24 PM

But in the "main" panel below the banner, you can see both in the same shot in "sprite" mode, and Hussie is still only a few inches taller than Scratch.

He's leaning over clearly though, there.

stefan

08-17-2011, 08:40 PM

calling it now. that particular clock and its history will be of the most singular plot importance.

Dracorion

08-17-2011, 08:44 PM

My initial instinct is the Hussie won't be able to take care of Doc Scratch because he still has to go on to raise Aradiancestor to become a witch and recruit the Condesce.

But then I remembered that the Kids' universe is getting scratched and that means things need to play out differently. Like the Condesce not keeping Grandma and Grandpa from getting together.

Mostly I'm just hoping Scratch will finally die because goddammit what a dick.

Arcanum

08-17-2011, 10:17 PM

Well the Condesce still needs to go into the pre-scratch universe to become Betty Crocker. However she won't be in the post-scratch universe. Oh my god I just realized, the scratch will only change one single thing: No Betty Crocker. I.E. no more Fruit Gushers. I'm not sure that's a universe I want to happen.

Aldurin

08-18-2011, 12:24 AM

Oh my god I just realized, the scratch will only change one single thing: No Betty Crocker. I.E. no more Fruit Gushers. I'm not sure that's a universe I want to happen.

meh

synkr0nized

08-18-2011, 12:31 AM

Oh, there's like another comic in the header. How unobservant of me.

Locke cole

08-18-2011, 01:18 AM

Can the author lose to his own character?

Well, the Hussie we're seeing is clearly not omnipotent in his own comic.

I mean, he's stumbling around in dead-ends, and his best hope for a weapon is a broom.

synkr0nized

08-18-2011, 01:48 AM

He's stated that the fifth wall is to keep two omniscient narrators from messing with one another. And he's also for reasons I am not sure of yet put two fourth-walls facing each other a yard apart. With the coat between.

So maybe that Hussie isn't THE Hussie, but I am still curious how Scratch will deal with him.

Locke cole

08-18-2011, 01:50 AM

I like to imagine that Hussie is a universal constant. There's the Hussie we're seeing, the one who wrote the Midnight Crew story that Dave was reading (before he died in the meteors), and a Hussie who lives in the Midnight Crew's city and writes a version of Homestuck (found on the Crosbytop)

IHateMakingNames

08-18-2011, 02:21 AM

Doc Scratch isn't really a narrator. He's a very plot-relevant character, who happens to be narrating.

Dracorion

08-18-2011, 07:03 AM

Hussie is the best host.

He is clearly showing that Scratch doll the best hospitality.

Revising Ocelot

08-18-2011, 07:31 AM

The Scratch doll is probably Lil' Cal, just because. It's clearly not Scratch himself, especially in the context of the last line.

Locke cole

08-18-2011, 09:52 AM

Probably Lil' Cal, just because.

I think we're missing context here. Who are you responding to?

Doc Scratch isn't really a narrator. He's a very plot-relevant character, who happens to be narrating.

If you narrate, are you not a narrator?

Menarker

08-18-2011, 01:27 PM

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005973

I noticed that the sphere of the clock, which if I recall represent Skaia, got forced out of the clock, yet is still that blue colored orb inside the clock when we look at the banner in the next few pages. Author oversight I'd imagine.

Bard The 5th LW

08-18-2011, 02:30 PM

Those be killin' linmes around Scratch and the Huss meister. Someone is about to go down.

What if Hussie dies, and Scratch takes over permanently?

Fifthfiend

08-18-2011, 02:32 PM

Ha ha ha ha, yes

yes

Bard The 5th LW

08-18-2011, 03:33 PM

This still counts as a muppet avvy, right?

Art of Hilt

08-18-2011, 09:14 PM

http://homestuckfighter.info/cyborg771/CongaStuck/

Solid Snake

08-18-2011, 09:30 PM

http://homestuckfighter.info/cyborg771/CongaStuck/

I cannot stop listening to this song.

Locke cole

08-18-2011, 09:38 PM

I cannot stop listening to this song.

The dancing Hussies are just icing on the cake. I've got this running in the background while I do everything else, now.

edit: by the way, try scrolling right.

Revising Ocelot

08-19-2011, 04:00 AM

No you dumb homo tool, your UPDATING WRONG

Was expecting Aradia to be stopped, but not by HIM.

EDIT: Literally rereading Act 1 in sbahj.php now

Kerensky287

08-19-2011, 04:43 AM

"Kind of like a reverse Calvin and Hobbes."

This line just made up for months and months of Doc Scratch updates.

Locke cole

08-19-2011, 06:50 AM

Nah, I can describe it.

It's a conga line (http://homestuckfighter.info/cyborg771/CongaStuck/)

Flarecobra

08-19-2011, 09:23 AM

And now we got a SBaHJ theme...

Bard The 5th LW

08-19-2011, 02:17 PM

OH LORD HES HERE HUSSIE GIVE SCRATCH THE STORY BACK FOR 5 MORE PANELS PLEASE

edit: also this totally counts as a muppet avvy now

rpgdemon

08-19-2011, 03:14 PM

Wait, LE = SB or HJ? Look at those artifactey eyes.

POS Industries

08-19-2011, 03:37 PM

Nah, if Lord English were either or both of them, he'd be talking in comic sans and everything would be spelled wrong.

Loyal

08-19-2011, 03:37 PM

The eyes are artifactey, but only them. The visible remainder of his face is normal.

LE = that dragon from the Neverending Story. Yep.

Locke cole

08-19-2011, 07:58 PM

Falkor's too weirdly-proportioned to fit in the overcoat.

Art of Hilt

08-19-2011, 08:07 PM

oh god everything's flipped turn-ways

Bard The 5th LW

08-19-2011, 10:05 PM

New layout again, and some other stuff in news.

Dracorion

08-19-2011, 10:21 PM

Incidentally, the link in the latest newspost does point to the first panel of Homestuck in SBAHJ format.

Followed it for a couple of pages and it kept the style, but I'm not feeling up to rereading the whole thing right now.

Aldurin

08-19-2011, 10:29 PM

Gah, I don't like this. I'm right-handed, and I want my format back!

Revising Ocelot

08-20-2011, 07:55 AM

Aldurin

08-20-2011, 10:22 AM

I guess it really does mean we're about to get the End of Act, though.

Pffff-HAHAHAHA! This act will never end, because it's just been going on for that long.

Solid Snake

08-22-2011, 12:36 AM

So
uhh
what just happened there
Why was Karkat simultaneously ministering to everyone through inexplicable bouts of EMOTIONS

Kim

08-22-2011, 12:39 AM

Notice how his eyes are closed? I think he's asleep and is basically unconsciously channeling his ancestor.

MuMu

08-22-2011, 12:43 AM

Karkat is just opening a nice can of 'shut the fuck up'

POS Industries

08-22-2011, 12:48 AM

Okay, so we're still holding strong at only one good troll cinematic.

Loyal

08-22-2011, 12:55 AM

Notice how his eyes are closed? I think he's asleep and is basically unconsciously channeling his ancestor. His eyes were closed only for the last panel, so I don't think that's it.

Not that I have a better explanation, mind you.

Jesus

08-22-2011, 01:12 AM

Why was Karkat simultaneously ministering to everyone through inexplicable bouts of EMOTIONS

Because, Snake.

Because.

Dracorion

08-22-2011, 01:43 AM

Am I the only one getting sloppy makeout vibes out of this?

Solid Snake

08-22-2011, 01:45 AM

Viridis

08-22-2011, 01:48 AM

Aldurin

08-22-2011, 01:55 AM

Oh man, Gamzee clearly has too much brain damage to be a safe housepet, Karkat needs to let him go.

Arcanum

08-22-2011, 02:42 AM

What I understand least is why Terezi, Kanaya and Sollux decided to randomly apparently feel some combination of hearts, spades and clubs towards Gamzee
Even the Ancestors shenanigans didn't adequately foreshadow that

First Kanaya was considering auspisticing (or however the fuck it's spelled) between Karkat and Gamzee, but Karkat turned her away. Next Terezi was probably considering Gamzee as a kismesis because of all the murder an injustice he caused, but Karkat basically said 'don't bother'. And then Sollux got all caught up in the emotions and started yelling at what he thought was Gamzee (or something, I'm not too sure on the Sollux bit). That's the way I saw it all.

Anyways

CG: JOHN, TRUST ME. YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND.
CG: IT'S JUST A TROLL THING, HUMANS WOULDN'T GET IT.
CG: YOU MIGHT THINK I WAS A SHIT HEAD, AND I CAN'T DEAL WITH THAT NOW ON TOP OF EVERYTHING, SO LET'S DROP IT.

Might be a morail thing going on, I dunno. But it seems like he's lulling Gamzee to sleep somehow.

EDIT-- Man how long is this going to go on for?

IHateMakingNames

08-22-2011, 03:42 AM

EDIT-- Man how long is this going to go on for?
I think it's done.

But this has been the most I've refreshed the page in quite some time. I really wanted to know what would happen.

Flarecobra

08-22-2011, 04:07 AM

Karkat: Troll Whisperer.

A Zarkin' Frood

08-22-2011, 05:20 AM

Oh boy oh boy oh boy. Karkat decided to grow up. I can't believe this, he's Karkat after all. Battling with weird gestures, nudging, hushing, shooshing and hugs instead of sickles. A true hero.

Bard The 5th LW

08-22-2011, 06:30 AM

I was totally expecting Karkat to just lop Gamzee's head off at some point during the montage.

This harkens back to one Kanaya's lines. "Even dangerous people can be important, as long as they have someone to keep them under control" I paraphrased that, but still.

Art of Hilt

08-22-2011, 07:20 AM

This is the first time Karkat has ever canonically smiled.
In the ENTIRE SERIES.

Locke cole

08-22-2011, 08:41 AM

First Kanaya was considering auspisticing (or however the fuck it's spelled) between Karkat and Gamzee, but Karkat turned her away. Next Terezi was probably considering Gamzee as a kismesis because of all the murder an injustice he caused, but Karkat basically said 'don't bother'. And then Sollux got all caught up in the emotions and started yelling at what he thought was Gamzee (or something, I'm not too sure on the Sollux bit). That's the way I saw it all.

Near as I can tell, Sollux was being extremely ineffectual because he's blind and hasn't yet learned how to figure out where the heck he's aiming his possibly-rage at. That's why Karkat doesn't even try to get him to back off; is there really any point in getting him to calm his rage(?) when it's been misdirected puppet-ward?

Loyal

08-22-2011, 09:20 AM

http://i.imgur.com/2e3nA.png

Aldurin

08-22-2011, 10:44 AM

I was totally expecting Karkat to just lop Gamzee's head off at some point during the montage..

I was expecting the opposite to happen, with gamzee adding red paint to his collection.

Revising Ocelot

08-22-2011, 12:32 PM

Well, Gamzee can't witness the mIrAcLe of a new beginning at the critical moment if his own head's detached.

Locke cole

08-22-2011, 03:00 PM

So, is Karkat really that good at calming people? Or is he using his powers?

Like, a power to lower peoples' Blood pressure?

Solid Snake

08-22-2011, 03:08 PM

KARKAT AND GAMZEE
BEST MOIRAILS

Fifthfiend

08-22-2011, 03:22 PM

.

You are a monster.

Loyal

08-22-2011, 04:24 PM

You are a monster. :3:

Also, one person's hypothesis on what Karkat did:
...Well, he touched Gamzee's blood.

And Karkat is the Knight of Blood.

Aldurin

08-22-2011, 04:35 PM

So, is Karkat really that good at calming people? Or is he using his powers?

Like, a power to lower peoples' Blood pressure?

I think he can drain other people's rage so that he can refill his own.

Just makes me wonder how many lives the doof:nak will save?

Locke cole

08-22-2011, 06:14 PM

KARKAT AND GAMZEE
BEST MOIRAILS

Nepeta deserves some mad moirail credit too, though. She prevented a murderous rampage, while Karkat stopped one that had already begun.

Bard The 5th LW

08-22-2011, 06:22 PM

Album up

totally called it in my mind

Art of Hilt

08-22-2011, 07:45 PM

And update is up too, with righteous pap and blessed shoosh.

Loyal

08-22-2011, 08:00 PM

MSPA: Expanding vocabularies one day at a time.

Art of Hilt

08-22-2011, 08:06 PM

I am proud to introduce "pap" and "shoosh" into my vocabulary too.

Bard The 5th LW

08-22-2011, 08:08 PM

Karkat and Gamzee are the mirthful Messiahs. It is them.

Kerensky287

08-22-2011, 08:10 PM

I was half-expecting the book to close with "END OF ACT 5" written on the front.

Dracorion

08-22-2011, 08:23 PM

At least, I'm pretty sure we're finally close to the end of act flash.

I hope.

Or did I just jinx it?

Art of Hilt

08-22-2011, 08:31 PM

Someone on the music team suggested that it might not be here for a month.
It's just a suggestion based on what little he knows, though. At least we're wrapping some things up in the meantime.

Loyal

08-22-2011, 11:44 PM

Welp.
Those are the last updates you'll see until the end of act 5 animation.

This means there will be a major content freeze. I will probably not even begin serious work on the animation for a couple weeks. There's still a lot of prep work and organization to do. That, and I have to catch up on some other stuff, like work on books, sketches and such. All the stuff I've been neglecting for many months while working on the comic.

Once I start on the animation, I can't say for sure how long it'll take, and I hesitate to give an estimate now. It's probably best to be prepared for another wait on the order of weeks. If you check back in a couple weeks, I may have a better forecast.

In the meantime, it'll pay to stop by now and then. There should be more new stuff appearing in the Topatoco and What Pumpkin stores pretty soon. I might also toy with ideas for some content to put up here and there to cut the boredom of the wait, if I can think of something that won't take much of my time. We'll see.

Arcanum

08-22-2011, 11:48 PM

My reaction:

Yay the act is ending.... oh what... weeks without homestuck.... no... no... nonononononononononono.

IHateMakingNames

08-23-2011, 12:32 AM

Yet I will still check the site daily.

Probably going to end up reading it from the beginning after a while.

Arcanum

08-23-2011, 01:54 AM

It's funny you mention that because I just started re-reading it two days ago.

Revising Ocelot

08-23-2011, 06:11 AM

So the Act5.2 part of the Homestuck map (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?viewmap=6) got its update squares.

More squares than Act5.1 and 4 COMBINED. I guess it really does mean we're about to get the End of Act, though.

THAT'S IT!
Posted on 22 August 2011 by Andrew

Those are the last updates you'll see until the end of act 5 animation.

Yah boo sucks to you, Aldurin.
...well, the COMIC is right next to EoA. Even if it's going to actually take a whole month. :(

Aldurin

08-23-2011, 10:50 AM

Yah boo sucks to you, Aldurin.

?

Pip Boy

08-24-2011, 01:29 PM

Is the music used in the rare and highly dangerous 5x showdown combo available on any of the albums so far?

A Zarkin' Frood

08-24-2011, 01:34 PM

That track (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/the-carnival) from Volume 7 (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/homestuck-vol-7-at-the-price-of-oblivion)

Revising Ocelot

08-24-2011, 01:57 PM

?

Pffff-HAHAHAHA! This act will never end, because it's just been going on for that long.

That.

Aldurin

08-24-2011, 02:33 PM

That was sarcasm on my part for that claim, thus my confusion to your response.

Ecks

08-24-2011, 02:41 PM

But... but he closed the tome! That means the act is over!

...right?

Art of Hilt

08-24-2011, 03:09 PM

It means the whole story is over. Homestuck is over.
Why is this thread still open? There's nothing to talk about anymore. He closed the book. "And it was good". THE END. It's done. We can go home now.

Aldurin

08-24-2011, 05:28 PM

There are still fanfics . . .

Loyal

08-24-2011, 05:40 PM

It's not over, it's just summer vacation.

By the way, you have homework to keep your wits sharp during the downtime. Show your work. (http://i.imgur.com/Bdf3Q.jpg)

POS Industries

08-24-2011, 06:22 PM

There are still fanfics . . .
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/itsickensme.jpg

Flarecobra

08-25-2011, 12:46 AM

At least I won't miss anything during the move.

Loyal

08-25-2011, 09:02 AM

Correction: There is still fanart.

Except Skaia.net is down. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Arcanum

08-25-2011, 02:35 PM

Correction: There is still fanart.

Except Skaia.net is down. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I still check every day hoping that it will be back up :(

Intern Nin

08-26-2011, 10:15 AM

Friends, the promised day has come. It has returned. Skaia.net has returned.

http://ib.skaia.net/image/10801.gif

Let us rejoice.

Donomni

08-26-2011, 12:30 PM

Found a huge-arse artdump for Homestuck.

It's also Actually Pretty Cool.

It's also also REALLY DAMN HUGE (http://www.deviantart.com/download/254970165/homestuck_dump_2_by_xamag_chan-d47sw8l.png), so click at your own peril.

Arcanum

08-26-2011, 03:45 PM

Friends, the promised day has come. It has returned. Skaia.net has returned.

http://ib.skaia.net/image/10801.gif

Let us rejoice.

System is down for migration. Wait for DNS to change over!

LIAR

Found a huge-arse artdump for Homestuck.

It's also Actually Pretty Cool.

It's also also REALLY DAMN HUGE (http://www.deviantart.com/download/254970165/homestuck_dump_2_by_xamag_chan-d47sw8l.png), so click at your own peril.

I've seen all of those except for like three. It's the reason I'm so sad that skaia.net is/was down

POS Industries

08-26-2011, 03:48 PM

LIAR
You might be having cache problems.

Ecks

08-27-2011, 11:41 AM

While we are in the lull of waiting for the end of act flash... I rediscovered my favorite track from the series.

Be warned: It is earworm level of awesome. (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/doctor)

Arcanum

08-27-2011, 12:55 PM

You might be having cache problems.

It was working when I checked again an hour after I posted that, so no big deal.

Bard The 5th LW

08-28-2011, 01:24 AM

Apparently Hussie is actually working on a Homestuck book, like a novel form or something. He hasn't said much, but he said the first one to come out will apparently cover act 1. he also said something about 30 volumes but I hope that isn't true.

Aldurin

08-28-2011, 01:28 AM

I don't know about a book, I mean with problem sleuth it was reasonable despite all of the gifs used, but Homestuck is gifs and more gifs and gifs that could only work as gifs and then interactive flash animations.

Bard The 5th LW

08-28-2011, 01:30 AM

Like I said, he's apparently making it some sorta novel, no panels. Text and words. He implied there may also be some other differences from the comic, but there arent many details.

Malek

08-28-2011, 07:00 AM

I think he said it'd be a graphic novel, I don't think it'll be much different to how he did the Problem Sleuth books.

Locke cole

08-28-2011, 08:27 AM

Then I don't understand how he can do it.

Art of Hilt

08-28-2011, 09:39 AM

I think he said it'd be a graphic novel, I don't think it'll be much different to how he did the Problem Sleuth books.

Plus apparently with added commentary on most of the panels.
So I guess sort of like that one Calvin and Hobbes collection?

Arcanum

08-28-2011, 02:08 PM

It won't be too hard to break down the animations into several frames for a graphic novel. It wouldn't be the same yeah, but it's still possible.

Locke cole

08-28-2011, 02:26 PM

And the "[x]bound" walkaround games?

Aldurin

08-28-2011, 02:35 PM

Clearly gonna come out for the 3DS.

Bard The 5th LW

08-28-2011, 02:59 PM

I don't think its gonna be done in the same way as the Problem Sleuth books. Guess we need to wait for more info.

Arcanum

08-28-2011, 03:27 PM

And the "[x]bound" walkaround games?

Same art style, only individual panels. All you need is the text and a few adventuring scenes. Like I said, it won't be the same, but it's a different medium so you would need to make adjustments. And it's not like the animations won't be available online. A book would just be for those diehard fans that want a physical copy of the Homestuck story, just like it is with Problem Sleuth.

I don't think its gonna be done in the same way as the Problem Sleuth books. Guess we need to wait for more info.

How much do you think it would cost for a book with LCD screens imbedded into certain pages that will play the flashes or the games?

... I'd probably buy that regardless of price...