Homesuck: Vriska Rising

[Locke cole]

I genuinely don't know if auto-response-Strider is being serious or ironic with that statement.

Also: Robots... AI auto-responder... Cal... Oh dear gog. Cal is going to be ALIVE.

You say that as if Cal wasn't already alive.

[Arcanum]

Well I mean now he's going to be more alive. And possibly HAA HAA HEE HEE HOO HOO.

Well I mean, it's being ironic in a way, but I'm pretty sure the history is accurate. Add that to Lalonde's "naive" comment, and it makes a pretty good case for Strider being gay.

See, I get that, and I agree with you, but then I think "This is Bro Strider we're dealing with here." Sure it's a slightly different Strider than the one we know from the Betaverse but deep down it's still Strider, so there's no telling just how deep the layers of irony go with the guy. So I won't be surprised regardless of what it turns out to be.

[Dracorion]

Except Bro Strider only had a thin, weak layer of irony to hide his erotic obsession with puppets.

[POS Industries]

Except Bro Strider only had a thin, weak layer of irony to hide his erotic obsession with puppets.
Puppets with long, thick phallic proboscises.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Except Bro Strider only had a thin, weak layer of irony to hide his erotic obsession with puppets.

You know, we only have Dave's word that his brother is completely and totally ironic, whereas everything we see of him indicates that Bro is completely straightforward with his interests.

Bro could be completely and totally unironic in every way, and Dave is just covering up just how uneasy he is with the puppets.

[POS Industries]

I should note that this is a person who wears a shirt with a picture of a hat printed on it. Some amount of irony is at work in this guy's personality.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Okay, close the doors, Bro is the best character in and out of this story and all the rest.

[POS Industries]

Okay, close the doors, Bro is the best character in and out of this story and all the rest.
Oh, come on. He's just a pervier Rose with robots.

...Which I guess does make him the best character. Carry on.

[Dracorion]

Dammit Jake what did I tell you about the LE vibes stop that and take the hat off right this instant young man.

[Art of Hilt]

I have to say, I don't get liking bro based on his responder. He seems like a huge douche.

No see that's the thing.
He seems like a douche but his intentions are pure.

GT: Damn it man ive told you this is just something i have to do myself.
GT: Its a promise i made to jade and im going to live up to it even if im not the best or even second best robosmith i know!
TT: Yeah, I know this is your policy. You've done a good job and you should be proud.
TT: But it's my responsibility as your friend to offer one last time.
TT: Just as it's my responsibility not to just fork over a bunch of uranium just because you ask me in a moment of weakness.
GT: Frig!!!!!
GT: Why not???
TT: It's too easy.
TT: And you yourself are the one staking pride in this.
TT: If you were half-assing this project and made some slovenly plea for it, I'd just say, fuck it, here's a lot of green rocks dude, go nuts.
GT: Ok then! Im halfassing it!
GT: Look. See? Only a bisected bottom is present! Where is the other half you ask?
GT: Why... it is nowhere to be found. I didnt use it!
TT: Nope. Not buying it.

He's pushing his bro to live up to a promise he made to himself.

This is something all bros should do to each other. It's a form of support even if it's a tough one.

This guy is like some sort of dedicated ninja sensei he's so cool

[Specterbane]

Not to pull the topic too far off from where it is, but did anyone suggest UU being this universe's First Guardian?

I mean the only experience we have with a Scratched universe is the Troll's, and in that one apparently Doc was the being that lead everyone around in the ancestor Troll-verse? And with the Green Sun gone, grey could be the color of choice. Just tossing that on to the pile of suspicion if it isn't already in it.

[IHateMakingNames]

A couple things, assuming we believe what UU says (No reason not to).

UU has stated that she isn't part of the kid's scratched universe.

She is going to play SBURB (Or her universe's variant) so she isn't likely a First Guardian.

The Green Sun still exists, the tumor didn't destroy it, it created it.


I initially thought she was the First Guardian of Alternia pre-Scratch, but her being a player makes me not believe that.

[Kerensky287]

Not to pull the topic too far off from where it is, but did anyone suggest UU being this universe's First Guardian?

I mean the only experience we have with a Scratched universe is the Troll's, and in that one apparently Doc was the being that lead everyone around in the ancestor Troll-verse? And with the Green Sun gone, grey could be the color of choice. Just tossing that on to the pile of suspicion if it isn't already in it.

Valid points. Plus, the symbol appears to have green snakes surrounding the grey rod (just from memory), so there's that too. Wouldn't be surprised.

I just wanted to pipe in and say that I'm very impressed with the way Lalonde and Strider seem to be working exactly in-character with what we know of them. Strider in particular is a total asshole, but at the same time very much a tough-love-wise-teacher type.

Also, the first time I read through that chatlog, I misunderstood the auto-responder concept as being an entire chat that Strider planned out from the very beginning, writing a program to send pre-recorded messages in programmed intervals that exactly matched what Jake was saying only due to incredible forethought on DS's part.

[Locke cole]

Brobot.

And callbacks to Equius/Vriska/Aradia.

[IHateMakingNames]

I only got the Aradia one. What were the other two references?

[Locke cole]

Well, the whole "Maybe he should just rip his heart out of his chest and pound it into green gravel there in the jungle with his hella strong robot arm." line, that was a modified line of Vriska's, when she was arguing with... I dunno, someone. Even used the phrase "robot arm".

As for Equius, well, Jake does happen to be a dude who assembled a robot for the sole purpose of wrestling it.

[Dracorion]

Look on the bright side, Jake. Now you won't have to worry about the robot blatantly groping you when you're wrestling.

It'll just sneak-grope you while it's tossing you around the place.

[IHateMakingNames]

I took the heart pounding line to be an Aradia reference, since she pounded her heart out while being a robot.

[Aldurin]

I think the Equius one is how he was head over heels for Aradiabot before he entered, and the glasses are suggesting an erotic fantasy between Brobot and Jake.

Not sure about the vriska one.

[Locke cole]

Aradia pounding her heart into blue mush with her robot arm was a reference to the chatlog where Vriska threatened to do just that.

References within references, but Auto here used the specific phrasing that Vriska used.

I mean, compare

AG: May8e I sh8uld just rip my he8rt out of my chest and pound it to a 8loody pulp here on my desk with my sup8r strong ro8ot arm.
AG: Pound pound pound pound pound pound pound pound!

with


TT: Maybe he should just rip his heart out of his chest and pound it into green gravel there in the jungle with his hella strong robot arm.
TT: Invoke_Onomatopoeia(Pound * some ridiculously precise value retrieved at astonishing speed from my rad neural net);

[Locke cole]

I can only interpret this extended silence as admission that I have defeated all comers in the arena of callback-recognizing.

[Ecks]

Perhaps everyone is just giving you a good firm sass silence. That is a real thing that I didn't make up just now.

[BitVyper]

Auto here....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/BitVyper/b9f644c3436bb43f5c2749b9ae2154fe.jpg

Edit: Wait shit, that actually looks like a brobot.

[rpgdemon]

So, why is Brobot at Strider's place?

[Marc v4.0]

I assume he has lots of Brobots

[POS Industries]

At this point I'm guessing that he gave everyone Brobots for their 13th birthday.

[Locke cole]

I think that Jake's brobot might look a bit different (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002212) (check his posters)

[Bard The 5th LW]

Guys, DS is totally the Ice Cream man. (http://www.andrewhussie.com/comic.php?sec=archive&auth=Andrew&cid=aids/00000.jpg)

[Locke cole]

Oh, uh... hey there, poppop.

[Revising Ocelot]

Jake probably keeps his Grandmas ashes then, unless they've been eaten by the MegaPumpkin.
I guess both of them could be Sprites, or at least Grandma will. Replacement Jadesprite!

I'm still holding out for a Jaspers First Guardian for Lalonde, though. *cough*

[Locke cole]

I've got a feeling that Jaspers somehow wound up on a Transmaterializer after being appearified by the Skaianet lab, became the other Lalonde's pet for a time, and then got Transmaterialized again when he died.

[Revising Ocelot]

Well yeah, that's the idea. I wrote it up some pages back.

[IHateMakingNames]

Act 6 is really making me want to go back and read Acts 1-4.

[Ecks]

I have just finished with that a couple of days ago. Currently trudging on through scratch.css shit, hopefully my entire archive binge will end tonight.

[POS Industries]

I have just finished with that a couple of days ago. Currently trudging on through scratch.css shit, hopefully my entire archive binge will end tonight.
I'm nearing the Doc Scratch interlude in my rereading. It is amazing how much my enthusiasm dropped for the endeavor upon reaching Act 5.

[IHateMakingNames]

It is amazing how much my enthusiasm dropped for the endeavor upon reaching Act 5.
Hence my specified Acts 1-4.

It's all about the kids in original Homestuck narration.

[Revising Ocelot]

I'm nearing the Doc Scratch interlude in my rereading. It is amazing how much my enthusiasm dropped for the endeavor upon reaching Act 5.

The ironic thing is that this thread looks like it exploded tenfold in activity during Hivebent.

[Arcanum]

Reading through Hivebent is fine. Re-reading it though, for some reason, is just so goddamn unappealing. When I was re-reading Homestuck a few weeks ago, I skipped over large chunks of Act 5 because none of the conversations between trolls were really noteworthy. In fact a lot of them took forever to read because they were stupidly long and deciphering their typing quirks is a huge pain. Way back when I read through Hivebent in it's entirety I got used to their typing quirks and could breeze through their conversations, but now it's like I'm looking at gibberish again when it comes to certain trolls (most noticeably Sollux, and Feferi a bit because fuck her Hs)

[POS Industries]

The ironic thing is that this thread looks like it exploded tenfold in activity during Hivebent.
Of course it did. Every update someone would make a post about how much the comic sucks now and that they're done reading forever and then we'd all argue incessantly about it for the next several days.

The major reasons I'm so much less interested in rereading Act 5 is that it's so much more recent and it's more focused on exposition and long stretches of dialogue than action, so it has a tendency to be kind of a slog to read through. The material is still entertaining, but it's more of a chore to be entertained, if you get what I mean.

[Revising Ocelot]

At least early Act5Act2 is still delirious biznasty funny, which makes up for the A5A1 slog somewhat. And alsQWOPPK3 DZASD[#Q2

[POS Industries]

And alsQWOPPK3 DZASD[#Q2
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/1320295683726.gif

[Revising Ocelot]

Look if you want to facepalm at me just say so, it's well within your right

Don't hide it in the image filename, it masks the fact I'm a moronic douche

[POS Industries]

Lighten up.

[IHateMakingNames]

This update just made me realize something.

Back in Act 3(?), Jade always yelled at stuffed Grandpa, and due to her mysterious nature reader's assumed all kinds of things. But she was just being crazy.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Act 5 was pretty recent, so I could understand being less enthusiastic about it. It also marked the sorta couple month stretch of Vriska pretty much being the main character and thats pretty base breaking.

[Ecks]

There is only one part of Act 5 Act 1 I truly enjoy, and that is [S] Make her pay.

Because Crystamanthequins is a bitchin song, and seeing everybody gettin their strife on without all the other bullshit glubbing every other pesterlog. Shit was hella annoying.

[BitVyper]

I was just thinking, we could take this line:

Its journey will end on the Final Day of my life

In another way now.

[Revising Ocelot]

Dunno what to make of this other than it confirms Jake as being Page of Hope. It's like a reversal of Aradia's situation when she entered the game.

[Dracorion]

Oh come on that is so totally a quest bed come on guys.

[Revising Ocelot]

More likely he's being taken down to the quest crypt.

I would say this is also like Jade, but her DS awakened before death. That hasn't occurred for Jake.

[Locke cole]

Geez, these sessions just can't catch a break with Hope heroes, can they? Either they're DOA, or they decide it's their duty to end all hope.

[Art of Hilt]

Oh man, I wondered how that happened to him.
Intrigue is so refreshing.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Woah. I wonder if its possible to actually get the tiger before entering.

[Arcanum]

If that's not a god-tier slab I will be very surprised. If they aren't bringing him to the god-tier tomb inside the moon, I will be double surprised.

[Aldurin]

Clearly the proper strategy for homestuck is . . .

1. Murder all dreamselves before they awaken
2. Have them all placed in the crypts.
3. Nuke both moons.
4. ???
5. Profit!

[BitVyper]

I'm wondering if, for all intents and purposes, their "game" started two years ago, and they just weren't there.

Anyway, if they want to get him to his Quest Bed, they'd better hurry the damn hell up.

[Arcanum]

I'm curious how this might affect Jake's chance of ascendance. Dave and Rose died on their slabs while their Real-selves were already dead. Aradia's Real-self was already dead when her Dream-self was killed by Jack's green fire. But now Jake has a dead Dream-self potentially on a slab with his real-self still alive. Will he ascend when his real-self is killed or will he just be dead?

Also, wasn't it explained that sessions exist long before the players enter them? It's just that the battlefield is locked in a constant stalemate since there haven't been any prototyping. The game can never truly "start" until a prototyping happens.

[BitVyper]

Also, wasn't it explained that sessions exist long before the players enter them? It's just that the battlefield is locked in a constant stalemate since there haven't been any prototyping. The game can never truly "start" until a prototyping happens.

That's what I'm saying. Maybe their game is somehow moving in spite of things.

But it's also possible that Jane hasn't actually woken up, and what she saw was more of a prophetic vision.

[Arcanum]

Well all of the prospitians are dressed plainly, so this is clearly before any of them enter. Also for a prospit dreamer to see the future they have to see something in the clouds of skaia, and for that to happen they have to be awake. Unless Jane has some new unprecedented way of having visions of the future, but I doubt that's the case.

Anyway I don't think that their game is "moving" per se. Like I'm 90% sure their battlefield is still in a stalemate. However it could be that Derse agents managed to infiltrate the moon and have already started influencing the game outside of the battlefield. If that's what you meant then yeah I agree that's a possibility.

It could also be a machination of the session itself. Like Sollux having two dreamselves, or Aradia's dreamself being interred in Derse's core.

[Dracorion]

Okay Jake looks stupid in non-sprite form.

It's the shorts. So stupid.

Looks even stupider with him living in the Land of Vines and Pumpkins.

[Arhra]

You can't be a boy adventurer without shorts!

[POS Industries]

They're comfy and easy to wear!

[Intern Nin]

Big effin' crabdad lurkin' in the background. Yep, this earth is very different from the one we know. English, what did you do? What did you do?

[Arcanum]

And now we wait for the inevitable Jurassic Park reference.

[Intern Nin]

You mean this one, right? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JFfN5pKzFU)

[POS Industries]

Also, it's worth noting that, at the moment, Jake's ability to go god tier isn't the most most interesting concern regarding the death of his dream self, nor is it a bad thing in the most immediate sense.

Because now Jake can enter the dream bubbles.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Because now Jake can enter the dream bubbles.

Weren't dream bubbles a specific thing Feferi asked the Horrorterrors to do? I don't think they'd carry over.

EDIT: Wait, derp, outside of space and time, that's right. Never mind.

[Ecks]

Ah. "EVERY TIME SHE GOES TO SLEEP, SHE LEARNS MORE."

This is how Jade set up the bunny shit, calling it now.

[stefan]

lalonde knows entirely too much about the situation for a drunken teenager.

[Locke cole]

She knows entirely too much about troll terms for a human.

"Wriggling day"?
"Pale friend"?

[Arcanum]

Probably has something to do with Rose given
TG: didnt believe any of the stuff about my mom

Also part of me really hopes the giant crab lusus is their first guardian.

[Kerensky287]

"Oh, don't be silly! It's just your friend and loyal companion, CRABDAD.

Fondly regard crustacean."

[Loyal]

She knows entirely too much about troll terms for a human.

"Wriggling day"?
"Pale friend"?

Jake used Husktop, though.

[IHateMakingNames]

But he didn't know what "wriggling day" was.

Also Karkat needs to explain to Jake how post-game breeding works.

[Marc v4.0]

to be fair, it was wiggling.

[Locke cole]

Also, a husk is not a purely troll term.

[POS Industries]

POS: Combine Cascade wallpaper with TE fightstick.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/SpadesStick.jpg

You make the SPADES STICK.

For when you absolutely, positively need to end somebody's universe.

[Locke cole]

YES.

Man, I wish I had something that I could skin with something from Homest-

Is there a place where I can make custom DS skins? On the internet?

[akaSM]

Maaaaaaaaaaaaybe (http://www.zagg.com/personalize/designer/index.php)

[Locke cole]

Blargh. They specify that I can't use copyrighted material.

[rpgdemon]

You could probably get the paper to print it on, for cheaper, anyhow.

[akaSM]

Maybe if you ask Hussie and get permission, you could get your Homestuck DS skin :/. It's not like you're going to sell it or do anything profit-y.

[Locke cole]

What, just send him an email or something? I could do that, but first I'd have to make sure I'm committed to buying this. Could also wait until I get a 3DS, or maybe skin my iPod instead.

Decisions, decisions.

But thanks for showing me that website.

[Revising Ocelot]

In other news, more CrabDad.

[Loyal]

It is time to get DEAD SERIOUS about hunting down a robot that looks exactly like your best friend,Hmm... that's curious.

[Ecks]

What's whore bibles about this is that no one has been using the phrase whore bibles.

[POS Industries]

Blargh. They specify that I can't use copyrighted material.
That's a bummer. The site I used seemed to be a bit more lenient about that, though really if there's anyone in the world that did a background mod of their stick with their own completely original artwork, I'd be pleasantly surprised. On the bright side, word out of Camp Hussie is that he's pretty cool with the fan-made stuff so long as you're not selling it or failing to give credit where credit's due.

Also the cell phone camera used for my pic doesn't do justice to how gorgeous this thing turned out to be. My only disappointment is that I guess I must have bumped one of the sides on something while I was doing the mod, because there's a little chip with a crack forming out of it, but it's not all that noticeable and doesn't seem to have gotten any bigger. I'll probably have to have a new plexi cover made down the road sometime, but for now I'm okay with it.

My favorite part is how well the white balltop works with it. in my dream i am the doc scratch. it's me

[Amake]

Do you think that miss zuipperpips might unseal those scandalous metal choppers for a bit? is my nomination for new thread title.

But anyway, the perpetual question, what in the shades of Derse is going on? I'm thinking the current session is the universe Team John is going to create, with inspiration from Team Adorabloodthirsty. Seems more likely than it being the Team John universe post-reset. There's too many things obviously inspired by troll culture, and even more from the now-deleted-by-the-scratch universe.

And how are they going to create this universe from a deleted session? That's a mystery. Probably said universe itself will be involved in its own conception as per the usual Homestuck two-fisted incestuous reacharound time loop shenanigans.

Although if we're inferring that much, we can also infer the new kids on the block will not be involved in creating their own universe, because that'd just be one level of self-reference too many. I predict they're all going to die.

[Ecks]

Influence of troll culture is easy enough to point out: the batterwitch is active at this point in time, per Lord English's orders.

UU says all eight kids escape LE's influence on the sessions.

[Arhra]

Unlessssss, UU is the batterwitch!

[IHateMakingNames]

And how are they going to create this universe from a deleted session? That's a mystery. Probably said universe itself will be involved in its own conception as per the usual Homestuck two-fisted incestuous reacharound time loop shenanigans.

Although if we're inferring that much, we can also infer the new kids on the block will not be involved in creating their own universe, because that'd just be one level of self-reference too many. I predict they're all going to die.
This is still the Kid's universe, just Scratched. So when it reaches that "point" again where Bec Noir is Red Miling Bilious Slick, the universe should still get destroyed.

So I'd say that Jake and friends do make a new universe, and that is where all the kids and trolls go since their universes were destroyed.

[Arcanum]

Huh. The dozen or so crazy theories I have as to what's going on and why actually seem sane compared to the stuff you guys are saying.

[POS Industries]

This is still the Kid's universe, just Scratched. So when it reaches that "point" again where Bec Noir is Red Miling Bilious Slick, the universe should still get destroyed.

So I'd say that Jake and friends do make a new universe, and that is where all the kids and trolls go since their universes were destroyed.
This pretty much seems to be how it will go down, except "Jake and friends" is still Jade.

It's also worth noting that we never actually saw the universe tadpole hit the lava. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006006)

Do you think that miss zuipperpips might unseal those scandalous metal choppers for a bit? is my nomination for new thread title.
Way too long to fit in the thread title box.

[Locke cole]

Considering that Dogtier Jade has LOFAF with her, I think the undeveloped universe tadpole is definitely going to come back in a big way later.

Perhaps it will be thrown in to the Alpha session's Forge and grow inside their Skaia.

[Revising Ocelot]

Speaking of Forges, Jake's looked to be active already in a few panels back. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006125) How would that affect things?

[Locke cole]

Not at all. The Forge is a volcano on the Land of [?] and Frogs.

The fact that Jake has a volcano near his place on Earth doesn't really factor. Not the same volcano.

[Revising Ocelot]

Jade: Enter showed they are, actually. It warped in with her tower when she entered, leaving the scattered islands and frog temple behind. So unless one of the other kids has a dormant volcano nearby...

[Locke cole]

Problem is, he's not the Page of Space, he's the Page of Hope.

[POS Industries]

Just because they both live by the same volcano doesn't mean that they're both forges. Jake isn't the space player, so he doesn't need one.

EDIT: Ninja'd by a suddenly slow internets connection. Damn you, Time Warner!

[Revising Ocelot]

That's not in dispute, but since the postScratch kid's only option for a Space player seems to be Bro (Mom looks like she's Void) and he probably doesn't have a dormant volcano in the middle of the city, it doesn't have any bearing on it. IIRC it was stated that sessions always have Time and Space players, so the alpha session has to be accounting for the arrival of the Beta players.

[POS Industries]

That's not in dispute, but since the postScratch kid's only option for a Space player seems to be Bro (Mom looks like she's Void) and he probably doesn't have a dormant volcano in the middle of the city, it doesn't have any bearing on it. IIRC it was stated that sessions always have Time and Space players, so the beta session has to be accounting for the arrival of the Alpha players.
"But if you are inventive, you may find a way to survive the reset and participate in the renewed session." (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005530)

The new session isn't creating any time or space players because the ones from the previous session survived, allowing them to continue to participate after the reset. That's why UU said that they will have 8 players.

UPDATE EDIT: TINKERBULL NOOOOOOO

[Revising Ocelot]

That's exactly what I'm getting at POS, and my original point was that Jake's forge/notforge looks to be active already, and what meaning that could hold. Perhaps I shouldn't have phrased it as the forge because that's got us tied up in the semantics.

[Arcanum]

"But if you are inventive, you may find a way to survive the reset and participate in the renewed session." (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005530)

The new session isn't creating any time or space players because the ones from the previous session survived, allowing them to continue to participate after the reset. That's why UU said that they will have 8 players.

UPDATE EDIT: TINKERBULL NOOOOOOO

so the beta session has to be accounting for the arrival of the Alpha players.

I think that's exactly what RO was implying, so long as by "beta" he meant "post-scratch" and by "alpha" he meant "pre-scratch."

Which brings up yet another clusterfuck of how the Alpha-Sburb-verse came second, and the Beta-Sburb-verse came first. Thaaaanks Hussie.

edit-- And ninja'd by RO because I was distracted by POS's spoilers. Speaking of which; Noooooo Tinkerbull!!!!

[POS Industries]

That's exactly what I'm getting at POS, and my original point was that Jake's forge/notforge looks to be active already, and what meaning that could hold. Perhaps I shouldn't have phrased it as the forge because that's got us tied up in the semantics.
Fair enough. I probably should have bothered to read the rest of your post more carefully, too.

[Revising Ocelot]

I think that's exactly what RO was implying, so long as by "beta" he meant "post-scratch" and by "alpha" he meant "pre-scratch."


Yeah, I mixed up alpha and beta. See avatar.



EDIT: Someone done gone changed mah avatar!
...actually, it's so cute I think I'll roll with it for a while.

[POS Industries]

EDIT: Someone done gone changed mah avatar!
...actually, it's so cute I think I'll roll with it for a while.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/tinafey.gif

[Fifthfiend]

Now change his usertitle

Just make it as viciously positive and self-affirming as it can possibly be.

edit: AWESOME EXCELLENTDUDE

[Locke cole]

Who else chose to listen to Arcade Thunder?

[Kerensky287]

Noooooo Tinkerbull!!!!

At least Jake gets his comeuppance. Right? Riiiiiiight?

EDOT: And I chose to listen to Bullet Dance from Blazblue instead. YEAH THAT'S RIGHT, STICK WITH THE RECOMMENDED MUSIC, YOU SHEEPLE! AAAAHAHAHAHAHA

[Revising Ocelot]

The updates keeps happening

Is that last panel meant to be a pixely mess around Brobot?

[IHateMakingNames]

I assume it's dirt.

[Dracorion]

I'd like to think the pixels mean Bro designs his robots to make people as uncomfortable as possible.

Or just Jake.

[Revising Ocelot]

That reminds me, I should get around to watching an episode of TTGL sometime.

[Loyal]

All the foliage in the foreground of that panel is a pixely mess. Not sure if it's intentional or not.

[Aldurin]

The pixels are the results of zooming in on an image of bushes without properly redrawing them like a proper artist would do.

But damn, that is the coolest looking robot ever.

[Locke cole]

Hands up: who else, upon seeing the glasses in the distance, all red and triangular, thought "Terezi!?" for one wild moment?

[POS Industries]

Hands up: who else, upon seeing the glasses in the distance, all red and triangular, thought "Terezi!?" for one wild moment?
*raises hand*

With all the lusii running around, it just seemed natural. Also I'm guessing Jake's island is where a new matriorb might be found. The Page of Hope, indeed.

[Loyal]

Her glasses aren't shaped that way, though.

[POS Industries]

It was more of a split second reaction. I see red glasses in this comic and the first instinct is to identify them as Terezi.

[stefan]

these goddamn robots are all over the place.

[Locke cole]

Well, that ic certainly a thing.

At least Bro stuck with the rabbit theme.

[Bard The 5th LW]

That was disturbing

[BitVyper]

Now shipping: Bro/Karkat. Blackrom.

Possibly the autoresponder instead of Bro.

[rpgdemon]

Update!

Is that Jade's old house?

[Arcanum]

Judging from the atom sign on the door, yep. Also 8 spheres around the ruins. Paradox Space knows what's coming even if the kids don't.

e- Oh my so many lusii

[rpgdemon]

Eight spheres plus one. :o

[Arcanum]

Nope, that would be Derse. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091208211738/mspaintadventures/images/f/f8/FrogTempleIsland.png The pre-scratch ruins have it too.

[Loyal]

And the volcano's still active.

[Dracorion]

Last sphere might be for Opie, I'm thinking. Or not, damn you Arc.

[Arcanum]

http://ib.skaia.net/image/27498.gif

Also make sure you have this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/carefree-victory-2) playing.

[POS Industries]

Also make sure you have this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/carefree-victory-2) playing.
Shit son, we're on volume 8! Get with the times! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saFRtTDSVKQ)

Also, that image is woefully inaccurate as of this update.

[Arcanum]

Bonus tracks are for cheaters.

e-

Also, that image is woefully inaccurate as of this update.

Well yeah they just crudely pasted Jake and Brobot and Tinkerbull onto the background from Jade and Bec's happy dance. Still found it funny.

[Art of Hilt]

That update.
I actually went "woah". Don't ever want to mess with THAT guy.

[Menarker]

*raises hand*

With all the lusii running around, it just seemed natural. Also I'm guessing Jake's island is where a new matriorb might be found. The Page of Hope, indeed.

At the very least the Page half of the title seem to be in full force since many of the lusii running around have previously been seen around Tavros who also had the Page suffix.

But I too would bet that the new matriorb will be heavily involved with Jake.

[Locke cole]

That is... Whoa. Seagoatdad is not to be trifled with.

[Arcanum]

http://p.twimg.com/AfmS29_CQAAWi2b.jpg is from Topatoco's twitter (http://twitter.com/#!/topatoco/status/142306336284229632). And yeah that's their official twitter as per the link on their website (I went and checked after the pic showed up on skaia.net).

Homestuck Book One in time for the holidays anyone?

[POS Industries]

I still don't understand how this would even work as a book.

[Fifthfiend]

Like this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH97UerMW6I)

[Bard The 5th LW]

From my limited understanding, its not a direct adaption as Problem Sleuth or something.

e: regardless I'm probably not going to bother getting it either way.

[POS Industries]

Like this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH97UerMW6I)
I'm assuming it's up to the reader to hum Sburban Jungle or whatever during all this, right?

[Arcanum]

Don't worry POS it will include sheet music to make sure the reader can hum it properly.

[akaSM]

I'm assuming it's up to the reader to hum Sburban Jungle or whatever during all this, right?

That would be silly. (http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006129)

[IHateMakingNames]

I assume it's a picture book.

[POS Industries]

That would be silly. (http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006129)
But if you have to go on the internet to read your book adaptation of a thing from the internet, why not just go read it on the internet?

[BitVyper]

It's obviously so you can read Homestuck on airplanes when they tell you to shut off electronic devices.

[Aldurin]

I don't know whether I like Bro or his auto-responder better at this point . . .

[Arcanum]

Well the AR is basically fucking him.

[BitVyper]

TT: You don't just make a clone of yourself to live in a dead end existence where it has no chance to thrive as an individual or surpass its limitations.

Hahahahahaha

[Mr.Bookworm]

Prototyping is obviously being set-up here.

Seems pretty obvious that stuffed-John is getting prototyped.

Also seems likely that the auto-responder is going to be prototyped.

[BitVyper]

Looks like bro is associated with pigeons as well, so I'm guessing his kernelsprite will more or less be like Dave's, but a pigeon instead of a crow.

[rpgdemon]

I was thinking Something/AR.

[Loyal]

Can we call it Auto or something? I keep thinking Aimless Renegade.

[BitVyper]

I was thinking Something/AR.

I'm pretty sure it'll be pigeon/AR. When I said it'll be like Dave's, I meant to point out that the likelihood of Bro prototyping his kernelsprite with what is effectively his clone would mirror the prototyping of Dave's kernelsprite with doomed Dave.

[Ecks]

Hahahahahaha

Oh the ironing.

[akaSM]

But if you have to go on the internet to read your book adaptation of a thing from the internet, why not just go read it on the internet?

Little girls know a better way :P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL8E7oZop6I)

Oh, but you say you don't own the appropriate music for the [S] segments. Don't worry, you can get the necessary albums for a reasonable fee!

[POS Industries]

I am also beginning to suspect that each kid will end up prototyping one of Bro's creations, resulting in all of their sprites having Kamina shades.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I am also beginning to suspect that each kid will end up prototyping one of Bro's creations, resulting in all of their sprites having Kamina shades.

And then the Kings and Queens or whoever ends up with their rings can have Simon's star shaped shades.

[stefan]

birdhair.

[Revising Ocelot]

birdhair.

Birdhat too.

[Art of Hilt]

birdhair. Birdhat too.


Not sure what those white things hanging out around him are though.
Dogs? Moose? Tiny dinosaurs?

[Ecks]

I'm pretty sure it'll be pigeon/AR. When I said it'll be like Dave's, I meant to point out that the likelihood of Bro prototyping his kernelsprite with what is effectively his clone would mirror the prototyping of Dave's kernelsprite with doomed Dave.

HSG calls the AR "Shades Prick"

I thought it was funny.

[Revising Ocelot]

Welp (http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=MSPA-HOMESTUCK-BOOK01&Category_Code=MSPA)

If that's just the first Act, you'd need 10+ books to get through the whole comic. And people will still buy them. Goddamn.

[Arcanum]

Yeah that's a little disappointing. My interest in the book just plummeted from "very little" to "practically non-existent."

[rpgdemon]

Yeah, the book looks unaesthetic, too. Like, something about it is just... Meh. The layout is distracting and ugly.

Edit: I had really hoped that it would be sort of a reenvisioning of Homestuck, either a text-version, or one with just large drawings, and then text below that would be more book-like, for every few pages. Hussie even said that it was different media, and needed to be treated differently. Then he just slaps down the pages from Act 1, crazy uglily.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I was hoping for something a bit... different as well. Maybe later ones will be different? I dunno. I was kinda planning on buying the Midnight Crew one or Hivebent one when it came out just for the sake of having it I suppose, but if its just a copy paste thing then I don't think so.

[Kerensky287]

So, it looks like Jane is now DS's Irony Apprentice. He seemed awfully excited about it.

I find it kind of interesting how the guardian personalities come into play here. In the original session, Dave was Bro's understudy, blindly accepting that everything his mentor did was right. In this one, Bro is STILL the better of the two, but now he believes it's because it's his duty to improve on his genetic ancestor's ironic legacy.

Also, YoungBro's speech about how top-tier irony must contain some sincerity implies that OldBro did indeed have a full-on puppet fetish.

Not that it's any surprise, but now we have confirmation.

[Aldurin]

I'm more worried that YoungBro says he has Cal. Like his last appearance was somewhere in the troll universe, when he was used as part of the genetic splice to make Doc Scratch.

Maybe Lord English is sensible enough to have a backup paradox in place.

[POS Industries]

I've been gradually leaning toward the idea that there is a Doc Scratch as the First Guardian of Earth in this timeline, as it's become plainly apparent that Lord English is, in the vernacular, already here. Plus a great deal of backreading through the archives has brought to my attention a great deal more in the way of hinting about the specific mechanics of the scratch, as well as factoring in that we're still in the same universe as the original kids, just a different timeline within it, meaning that Jack killing everything remains an inevitability.

It's all pretty ripe for LE summoning.

[rpgdemon]

Is it a different timeline? I was under the impression that the other universe exploded and borked, and then this was a new one, with similar but different starting parameters.

[POS Industries]

If it's a different universe, who made the frog?

[Arcanum]

Well the Scratch releases a massive amount of temporal energy that essentially rewinds the universe to its starting point. From there certain things happen differently. In other words it skews off into a separate time line. Or at least that's the way I see it.

[BitVyper]

That's pretty much what POS is saying. It's the same universe, with the conditions reset slightly different. Also it was reset without cancer, because John excised the tumour, and Jack was removed from the universe.

[Locke cole]

Well, it's still gonna have a Jack Noir. Jack Noir is just part of any game. But I've got a feeling that this one isn't going to go Slayer, or at least won't take it upon himself to murder the universe.

[BitVyper]

Well, it's still gonna have a Jack Noir. Jack Noir is just part of any game. But I've got a feeling that this one isn't going to go Slayer, or at least won't take it upon himself to murder the universe.

Nah, that's not what he's saying. It's not that this session's Jack will get the ring and destroy the universe, it's that this universe has a definite end where OUR Jack kills Bilious Slick. All that's happened is the conditions in the universe have been rebooted, but Jack destroyed it from outside.

It may or may not hold true, but it makes sense.

[Locke cole]

Right. But this rebooted universe has its own Jack Noir, independent of the two Jack Noirs in the Alternian universe.

[BitVyper]

Right. But this rebooted universe has its own Jack Noir, independent of the two Jack Noirs in the Alternian universe.

That point wasn't in contention. Obviously there will still be *A* Jack. I brought up Jack being exiled because that Jack represented a terminal complication caused by the universe's cancer.

[Flarecobra]

Man, that bunny is a DICK.

[Dracorion]

More like an ASS, if you catch my drift. *wink wink nudge nudge*

[Locke cole]

Let's call him Ass Dick.

He's slicing things in the throat to assert his superiority.

[Aldurin]

Geez, Bro has the best way to casually talk about a bizarre fetish.

[Intern Nin]

Oh, Dad-notes. How I've missed you.

[POS Industries]

Never was there a more supportive, doting father.

[Art of Hilt]

Two new God-tier hoodies are out.

[Arcanum]

And it seems the rest will be out by the end of the week.

And the new designs look like slightly modified Breath and Space symbols, which is rather fitting if you think about it.

[Art of Hilt]

I like to think of the Life symbol as stylized ectobiology slime.

[Locke cole]

I think it's a vine sprouting from a desert.

[Ecks]

Blood and Doom next, calling it now.

[Loyal]

The dad has been alerted.

[POS Industries]

Dad's actually around for major appliances getting chucked through his walls in this timeline. Everything I have known to be true has been turned on its head.

Black is white, up is down, dogs and cats living together...

[Loyal]

Incidentally, remember how Jake shot Tinkerbull?

Welp. (http://fraymotif.tumblr.com/post/13512789158)

[Locke cole]

The best doff ever?

[Aldurin]

It was only proper for Jake to take paradox revenge.

[POS Industries]

It's not quite revenge yet.

He hasn't contacted Tavros through paradox space, told him about how he killed Tinkerbull, and then awkwardly hit on him while showing no remorse whatsoever.

[Locke cole]

For the cycle to be complete, he'd have to contact the Summoner, actually.

[POS Industries]

Ah yes, of course. My mistake.

[Loyal]

I'm not entirely sure I want actual characterization for the not-Mindfang Ancestors.

[POS Industries]

I'm not entirely sure I want actual characterization for the not-Mindfang Ancestors.
If we're lucky, Hussie beating Doc Scratch to death with a broom was the gripping conclusion to any involvement of the ancestors for the duration of the story.

Except I guess it isn't because lolBetty Crocker.

But she's cool, she can stay.

[Loyal]

Okay, yeah I will make an exception for the Empress.

[BitVyper]

Oh god, it's FedoraFreak's hat.

[Revising Ocelot]

Killing Jake with kindness.

[Locke cole]

Brobot: Bleat like a goat and decapitate your enemies.

[Art of Hilt]

Oh my fucking god this update.
A thousand tents were pitched this day.

[Revising Ocelot]

Page 6175 - Sick Bleats
By Toby Radiation Fox

[IHateMakingNames]

Update

The most terrifying of battle cries.

[Ecks]

And here I was complaining about Hussie's lack of updates.

I stand corrected and apologies are in order.

[Revising Ocelot]

And here I was complaining about Hussie's lack of updates.

I stand corrected and apologies are in order.

The lack of updates is because he's having to do doodles in the tons of Homestuck books the bleating goats ordered. The backlog is lasting until next year.

[Arcanum]

Well it's about damn time. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002216)

[BitVyper]

The brick has fallen as our ancestors foretold.

[Revising Ocelot]

MSPA still loses out on brick laying.

4 White Mages? It'll never work.

[Locke cole]

And the goat bleating has been called back to several times. 4 White Mages was stealth.

[Ecks]

Yeah, pretty sure 8BT is going to be the brick laying king for all time. Homestuck isn't even guaranteed to last much more than another year or two anyhow.

[Art of Hilt]

Update.

JANE? JANE!
JAAAAAAAE.

[Fifthfiend]

5atPYaxX0lM

[Dracorion]

This is clearly the fault of poorly selected and trained postal servicemen.

PM would be rolling over in her grave, if she were dead.

[Flarecobra]

And that's why they banned the real M-80 fireworks.

[Locke cole]

I...

This...

I swear, my jaw actually dropped when that happened. I don't even know what to think right now.

It's like I'm back in April of '09, boggling at the screen as I watch John apparently get meteor'd out of existence.

[Dracorion]

*Facepalm*

Of course! The mailbox was her cruxite challenge!

[Fifthfiend]

Requesting thread title change to "the tao of blowing the fuck up"

[Ryong]

...When'd Hussie read about Brian's policy on jokes? ( Best ones are on the readers )

[Bard The 5th LW]

WHAT A TWIST!

I figured this Act would be Bifurcated. Hussie said it'd only be about 100 pages, but Act 7 is going to be the epilogue and there is still a lot of plot to finish.

[Solid Snake]

I...
I don't get it
(Again)
But now I'm imagining that this tragedy is totally what inspires Jake English to become a certain Lord English we all know and love.
I mean I'm not even sure how that works, really
But I'd enjoy seeing that
(Oh wait her dreamself is alive anyway, right?)

[POS Industries]

Yeah guys, she's totally dead. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002147)

[Locke cole]

Yeah, but if no Prince or Princess of Derse or Prospit kisses her body sometime very soon, her dreamself will slowly receive sympathetic wounds to match and die as well.

edit: Well, yes, I knew the parallel there, POS, but the thing is that that explosion was turned away from John due to the power of his Cruxite artifact.

Jane has no such mojo, since she hasn't even entered the game yet.

[Fifthfiend]

I figure given the irreversible permanence of homestuckly death we can basically take for granted that she is 100% gone and will never be seen or heard from again.

[POS Industries]

I knew the parallel there, POS
Then that's all you need to know about Jane's fate, isn't it?

[Fifthfiend]

Then that's all you need to know about Jane's fate, isn't it?

Well I mean Jane could actually for-realsies be dead, which would of course totally for certain halt her story and preclude her participation in subsequent events.

[Locke cole]

What I meant was that the explosion has visual similarities to the meteor impact. The circumstances are different. You know, with the lack of any Cruxite artifacts or other game items and all.

Also, Fifth, I know that death ain't exactly the most immutable thing in this comic, but if/when she comes back or is revealed to have not been killed at all, I have no idea how it's going to have happened, since the established death-cheating things aren't on the table in this sequence (there is no Cruxite artifact, nobody qualified to kiss her alive, and her dreamself ain't on a Questbed.) Unless she becomes a ghost like Aradia, Or R. Lalonde has connected, and been deploying items and building some sort of emergency transportalizer offscreen, then I have no idea what could follow from this, which is what makes it shocking to me. Can I have that?

[POS Industries]

Well yeah, if you want to overthink it.

Well I mean Jane could actually for-realsies be dead, which would for certain totally halt her story and preclude her participation in subsequent events.
Totally what happened here, I agree.

[Solid Snake]

I'm rooting for whatever option gets these new kids out and brings the old cast back.

...So yeah, Jane can die, I guess.

[Kerensky287]

I have no idea what could follow from this

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[Bard The 5th LW]

I...
I don't get it[/I]

Earlier it was mentioned that someone had made attempts on Jane's life. This was one of those such attempts, having possibly succeeded.

[Loyal]

The hell of it being that this is pretty much exactly what Dad was hoping to prevent by grounding Jane in the first place.

[Locke cole]

It's a parent's very specific worst nightmare.

[Arcanum]

I can't help but feel Act 6 Act 1 and Act 6 Act 2 are just Hussie trolling the fandom over all the whining about Act 5 Act 2 being so horrendously long.

Also calling that Jane is just going to lose an arm and an eye from this explosion and still be alive.

[Locke cole]

New theory:

D. Strider predicted that someone was gonna try to mailbomb Jane on this day (not too hard to predict, actually), and mailed her a gigantic puppet, packed into a box like an airbag waiting to deploy.

When the bomb went off, the puppet's box ruptured, causing it to explode out of the mailbox and cushion Jane from the blast, protecting her with its velvety plush rump.

[Arcanum]

Oh yeah I forgot that there were like 6 green curtains in [S]Seer: Descend.

[Art of Hilt]

Update.
Spades Slick, Clover and WV all have question marks next to their faces.
Ain't that some shit.

[Revising Ocelot]

Update.
Spades Slick, Clover and WV all have question marks next to their faces.
Ain't that some shit.

Well, that's easy. SS we haven't seen die - the last we saw was him killing Snowman. No idea if he gets caught up in the universe asploding or not.

Clover went into his coin to bring Quarters out (who then got Snowman'd). He ain't dead, but probably trapped.

WV's probably still alive since PM went to the trouble of taking him with her when she used the thingy in the Can Base to go cross-universe, but he's certainly fatally wounded.

For a special bonus, Sollux has a >. Man, can't he hurry up and die already. Like, oh, the start of Act 6 Act 2 would be good.





No, the important part here is that the Wolf Head is a character. And his status is :(.



:(

[rpgdemon]

Two things:

1) Five more parts of Act Six. I was completely right in my prediction that I never made out loud, that it'd follow the arc of pre-scratch Homestuck, in act structure.

2) Would it have killed him to add one more frame to the Nanoseconds watch panel?

[Locke cole]

And Jane is "X ?"

Which I'm assuming means that her fate is uncertain until we see a body or lack thereof, but it certainly looks like she's dead.

[Revising Ocelot]

She's not dead. Bro said she'd enter the game first, and since Bro is aloof as all hell he's never wrong.

[Locke cole]

It's uncertain, but yeah. It's pretty likely, given Hussie, that she's not dead. I have my own theories as to how she could have survived, which I've already put down here, so yeah.

[Arcanum]

2) Would it have killed him to add one more frame to the Nanoseconds watch panel?

Well it's not spinning around and around, it's going from the "1 o'clock" position to the "9 o'clock" position and then the gif resets. So Hussie still has 3/4 of a nano second to fuck with the story.

[Ecks]

Did anyone notice Jade wasn't on that huge fucking list of characters... yet Bec was crossed out? Also, Jane has a question mark next to her X.

Seriously, I swear, Hussie's trolling right now. Big time troll mode. I'll bet MSPAF and HSG are positively shithive maggots right now.

Whore bibles indeed.

[Revising Ocelot]

Jade's there. Right side, in front of Bilious.

Honestly, another forum I go on I've been pointing out "Where is character X" for people all day. This is basically Where's Waldo?

[Ecks]

Jade's there. Right side, in front of Bilious.

Honestly, another forum I go on I've been pointing out "Where is character X" for people all day. This is basically Where's Waldo?

D'oh. For some reason when I first looked through that page I thought it was a troll.

[Aldurin]

I knew that this "yard" of influence was going to be used later. Whether it's for a fake-out or actually messing up the story is still unclear.

[IHateMakingNames]

Well, Hussie has stated he is against actually effecting the story with his character. But he did beat Doc Scratch to death and didn't count that as inference, so who knows.

[Arcanum]

I knew that this "yard" of influence was going to be used later. Whether it's for a fake-out or actually messing up the story is still unclear.

He has 3/4 of a nanosecond to interact with them. I'm pretty sure by the time he reaches the window it will be too late.

[Locke cole]

He's also a robot who may well be operating at superspeed, since he has need of a nanosecond pocketwatch.

Or he could just be tro- er, doing jokes.