Homesuck: Vriska Rising

[Bard The 5th LW]

'Bout as likely as Nepeta becoming a rainbow drinker.

[Locke cole]

Lime, not jade.

[Loyal]

I doubt we'll see any other rainbow drinkers. As far as we're aware, even the Dolorosa didn't revive. We don't know what caused Kayana to rise up.

[Locke cole]

the mental power of 1000 fans thinking that their theory had to be right.

[Art of Hilt]

I doubt we'll see any other rainbow drinkers. As far as we're aware, even the Dolorosa didn't revive. We don't know what caused Kayana to rise up.

Probably Sylph powers, to be honest.
Considering Aranea suggested that Sylph = healer.

[Revising Ocelot]

I'm seeing double! Eight Jacks!

[Locke cole]

I'm going to go right ahead and assume that a pitch-black Skaia is not good at all.

[Aldurin]

Not enough Jack.

[Arcanum]

I'm going to go right ahead and assume that a pitch-black Skaia is not good at all.

Might be the sign of a null session? I mean, there's no point in showing the future if the future is being stuck in that session with nothing to do.

Or possibly a side-effect of having no prototypings?

[Flarecobra]

Agreed, Dirk IS a shithead for not knowing what fucking chess is.

The shithead.

[Ecks]

i blame uu's awkward phrasing
using "check" instead of "mate" would have gone a long way toward getting his point across

but then it wouldn't have been funny

also we don't know if dirk is kidding or legitimately unaware of chess

[Locke cole]

the condesce banned Chess because knowledge of it and its motifs is too useful for SBURB players.

[Ecks]

that also occurred to me

[Aldurin]

Agreed, Dirk IS a shithead for not knowing what fucking chess is.

The shithead.

I think Dirk was continuing with his counter-trolling against uu, it's pretty unlikely that he wouldn't be aware of chess, since the condesce would have to do a lot of work to retcon it out of earth's society and history.

[IHateMakingNames]

Is there a reason why there isn't a Derse in uu's session?

Also update.

[Art of Hilt]

And here we are.

All the best characters in one place.

Is there a reason why there isn't a Derse in uu's session?


That panel doesn't show the entire session, just a close-up of Skaia and Prospit happens to be right next to it.

If you saw the entire session, you'd see the Veil with all its meteors, and then Derse outside of that.

[Aldurin]

And here we are.

All the best characters in one place.

Except for the other best characters. It's a shame since if you throw all of the best characters in a room, five minutes later Jack will leave with a bloodied knife. Coexistence is impossible.

[Ecks]

hey I figured it out guise meenah is fef and eridan's kid

Also does this mean we can advance some fucking plot again

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

No.

[Loyal]

We've advanced the plot plenty enough, we're at the part with Dave and Karkat again.

e: Just noticed Roxy sleepfloating up top. Heh.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Karkat and Dave buddy cop fighting meenah.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

UPDATE
SINGLE PAGE
WITH A SHORT PESTERLOG THINGIE
HOW EXCITING

[POS Industries]

Clearly I decided on a new title too hastily, not expecting Meenah to be so fuckin swag all of a sudden.

This error has been corrected.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Every day she's shufflin'.

[Locke cole]

Jake is only here so that Hussie can pretend this isn't intermission 6.3

Oh, and judging by Meenah's comment about Pyrope, I think we can assume that these prescratch trolls have the same last names as their postscratch counterparts.

As in, Meenah Peixis and Aranea Serket.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Aranea Serket confirmed.

Also Meenah <3 Aranea
this is hilarious and adorable.

[Locke cole]

Dammit, Meenah, stop dancing around the name of Karkat's "ancestor".

[Solid Snake]

...Oh, Karkat.

You are always the best character.

[Arcanum]

How to get royalty to give you the keys to the kingdom: use fish puns.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Condesce and Meenah are more or less the same person.
Imagine DD using fish puns and her just loving it.

[Locke cole]

And being extremely hesitant about doing something so silly.

"I... need the ring to... to..." *sigh* "Fillet that upstart sea-urchin."

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

And being extremely hesitant about doing something so silly.

"I... need the ring to... to..." *sigh* "Fillet that upstart sea-urchin."

"The robot is good... but... even if I krill the kid there'd be coraltteral damage."

[Dracorion]

Dream Roxy continues to be adorable.

[Ryong]

Karkat wanting to chat with Nepeta?

A little bit too late, man.

[Flarecobra]

Karkat wanting to chat with Nepeta?

A little bit too late, man.

Dead-Nepeta. In a Dream Bubble.

[POS Industries]

Condesce and Meenah are more or less the same person.
Which makes the realization that, deep down, the Condesce is straight gangsta nothing short of wonderful.

[MuMu]

Karkat wanting to chat with Nepeta?

A little bit too late, man.

KarkatXNepeta is still alive, even if the latter isn't.

[Locke cole]

It was also just a big ol' setup to a Nepetaquest joke.

[Ryong]

I mean that he didn't seem to pay much attention to her when she was alive and the whole shipping deal was Nepeta's thing, not Karkat's.

[Art of Hilt]

Rose, Dave and Kanaya are that group of kids who huddle together in the corner during a party and whisper to each other the whole time.

And freak out whenever anyone notices them.

"Oh god they're looking at us" "what do we do what do say oh god oh god oh god" "Maybe If We Stay Totally Still They Wont Be Able To See Us" "yes brilliant"

[Revising Ocelot]

Which makes the realization that, deep down, the Condesce is straight gangsta nothing short of wonderful.

What, the massive amount of bling she has didn't clue you in?

[Locke cole]

Feferi isn't gangsta. Bling isn't evidence, it's just accessory to the other evidence.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Also Mom is pretty much confirmed to have acted like Roxy no matter how litle she seemed to while on screen.

[Revising Ocelot]

You can't compare Feferi's paltry jewellery to the Condesce Smorgasbord. Nor anyone else I can think of, for that matter. (please don't provide comparable examples)

Also Mom is pretty much confirmed to have acted like Roxy no matter how litle she seemed to while on screen.

There was always the general implication that Mom really was taking the whole cat mausoleum, giant wizard statues absolutely seriously. For a given drunken interpretation of seriously, at least, but the whole deal about it being a game of one-upmanship was just all in Rose's head.

[Locke cole]

Also Mom is pretty much confirmed to have acted like Roxy no matter how litle she seemed to while on screen.

Well, she slept like Roxy, anyhow. That's about all Rose has told us.

[Locke cole]

And here comes Meenah with the promise of a quick 'n' dirty exposition.

Of course, last time someone promised that? It was Doc Scratch.

[IHateMakingNames]

Oh thank god Meenah. I'm not sure Dave and Karkat could even save any more scenes with Aranea taking the lead.

[Art of Hilt]

Well, she slept like Roxy, anyhow. That's about all Rose has told us.

Okay let's be honest here
Roxy is the best thing that has ever happened to Mom
We should WANT every aspect of her personality to be exactly the same

[Aldurin]

Welp, I appreciate the strong effort from Meenah, but I still don't think she's best-character material yet.

[POS Industries]

Feferi isn't gangsta.
Feferi is neither Meenah nor the Condesce, whereas the latter two are literally the same person with different life experiences due to the way the scratch works.

Fef is more like a twin sister, biologically speaking. Her personality has no bearing on what Meenah is like, deep down in her soul.

[Locke cole]

Revolving Ocelot was saying that Meenah's bling should have been a massive tip-off to her gangstaness. I was using Feferi as a counterpoint, as she has royal bling, but is not gangsta. Trust me, I have never been confused as to the relationship between Feferi and Meenah. I know that they never have and never will be the same person.

...perhaps I shouldn't be so quick to say "never will be", considering Tavrisprite.

[POS Industries]

Yeah, I see where you're going with that.

It ain't about dat bling. It's about where you come from, and what you got inside.

[Revising Ocelot]

Revolving Ocelot was saying that Meenah's bling should have been a massive tip-off to her gangstaness.

No, I was referring to the Condesce. Hence the Condesce being in POS' quote and not Meenah.

[Dracorion]

Meenah's storytime is offically the best storytime there's ever been in the comic.

Also, Ancestors Gamzee, Equius and Tavros are all tied for The Most Amazing Hair Award.

[Flarecobra]

Meenah's version was quite enjoyable. Short, sweet, and to the point.

[Revising Ocelot]

I think Jake's going to wake up soon. Hopefully right before the revelation of some amazing fact.

[Arhra]

That Meenah's sure got a way with words.

[Locke cole]

Meenah's version was quite enjoyable. Short, sweet, and to the point.

We already knew she has a way of getting to the point. 3-6 of them, even.

[Locke cole]

"Waterboat me"

Took me a while to realize it's her saying "what about" and not some really WEIRD request.

[Aldurin]

Jake is becoming more awesome now.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

YES JAKE
FULFILL YOUR DESTINY AND SLAY SPACE HITLER

[MuMu]

Fish Hitler.

[Locke cole]

FISH HITLER.

Space Hitler would be, like, I dunno. A particularly mellow Dalek or something.

Anyway, YES JAKE DO IT DO IT.

[rpgdemon]

Motion to change thread title to, "DIE FISH HITLER DIE!"

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

JAKE GOT IT WRONG NOT ME
FUCK YOU BOTH

[Revising Ocelot]

There are no fish in space, Karesh.

[MuMu]

in space, no one can hear you swim

[Premmy]

There are no fish in space, Karesh.

Oh yeah, smart guy? Then what do the space dolphins eat? Riddle me THAT!

[Revising Ocelot]

Oh yeah, smart guy? Then what do the space dolphins eat? Riddle me THAT!

Nothing, they're fodder for Space Stalin.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

There are no fish in space, Karesh.

There's no fish in Nazi Germany either.
Checkmate.

[Revising Ocelot]

There's no fish in Nazi Germany either.
Checkmate.

Hitler was a vegetarian and ate fish. I can vandalise Wikipedia to say that, so it must be true. Checkermater.

Now let's desist this long (fishing) line of discussion before we get keelhauled.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Hitler was a vegetarian and ate fish. I can vandalise Wikipedia to say that, so it must be true. Checkermater.

Now let's desist this long (fishing) line of discussion before we get keelhauled.

I see how it is, you get backed into a corner and krill the debate.

[Locke cole]

There's no fish in Nazi Germany either.
Checkmate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mildred_Harnack

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I hate to say it but
She was beheaded on 16 February 1943. Her last words were purported to have been: "Ich habe Deutschland auch so geliebt" ("I loved Germany so much").

Sort of proves my point doesn't it?

[MuMu]

Ruffianism!

[Loyal]

I have to wonder why she's smiling so much.

[Aldurin]

So . . . is Terezi able to . . . smell mind-Dirk?

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I have to wonder why she's smiling so much.

At first I thought she was just stuck in that expression, but now I'm thinking it might be because Jake is reminding her of/mentioning more about what her counterpart has done.

[Locke cole]

She doesn't see him, but she can See him.

Seer of Mind, remember?

[Dracorion]

And somehow, Brain Dirk manages to steal the show.

Which means Jake just stole the show from himself.

[Loyal]

I'm pretty sure at this point we can no longer consider Brain-Dirk just a figment of Jake's imagination. He's something more at this point.

[Marc v4.0]

I'm pretty sure at this point we can no longer consider Brain-Dirk just a figment of Jake's imagination. He's something more at this point.

Not necessarily, considering...


Seer of Mind, remember?

[MuMu]

I have to wonder why she's smiling so much.

Jake/flushed/ARANEA
Jake/caliginous/MEENAH

edit: fucking forums not recognizing alt code

[Dracorion]

Update.

Turns out, Jake likes balls.

[Solid Snake]

Update.

Turns out, Jake likes balls.

I'm very disappointed in how misleading this message was.

[Ecks]

hey cool we learned some stuff

[Revising Ocelot]

Two obvious things:

A) The capsule contains a Jack. Probably Robo-Spades.

B) Jake's sendification will just rile up the volcano further.

[Arcanum]

R.I.P. Liv Tyler :(

Also, in case you missed the bonus at the end of the flash, click this link. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=darkcage2)

[Aldurin]

Fascinating how this has got to be the saddest update even though far more developed characters have been offed. Poor guy didn't deserve it.

[Revising Ocelot]

Did anybody shed a tear at Equius' death?


Tears of laughter don't count.

[Locke cole]

I don't think I was crying at the deaths of any of Gamzee's victims, but that's mainly because the underlying emotion to that sequence was more one of fear.

[POS Industries]

Kanaya's death was the only one so far that got any sort of emotional response out of me just because of how much of a sucker punch it was.

But then she got right the fuck back up so I really can't take any character's death too seriously anymore. Especially one who was apparently considered by the author to be less of a character than the spooky wolf head. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006189)

[Loyal]

I don't think I was crying at the deaths of any of Gamzee's victims, but that's mainly because the underlying emotion to that sequence was more one of fear.

I recall being entirely unable to take the Gamzee sequence seriously because everyone's flaws suddenly dialed themselves up to eleven and turned everybody pants-on-head stupid.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I recall being entirely unable to take the Gamzee sequence seriously because everyone's flaws suddenly dialed themselves up to eleven and turned everybody pants-on-head stupid.

Andrew has implied that was Gamzee's chucklevoodoos influencing their subconscious and making them act towards the extremes. Whether or not that is a good enough explanation is up to you, but its an explanation nonetheless.

[Loyal]

Insofar as Hussie's sudden, aggressive drive to make Vriska and/or Gamzee responsible for every single event in the comic never sat well with me, and that Chucklevoodoos have never not been stupid... No, I'd have to say it's not a good enough explanation.

[IHateMakingNames]

I'm pretty sure he implied that Vriska was responsible for Gamzee being responsible for stuff.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Cascade seems to also imply that Scratch was responsible for guiding Gamzee to some degree.

In Homestuck, everyone is responsible for everything except when they aren't.

[Arcanum]

I can't help but feel that these implications of UU and uu being the same person only with two distinct dream-selves/personalities are becoming too obvious.

Also currently too tired to decipher what the chess game is alluding to (other than the duel between Zazzerpan and Calmasis, which itself is either derived from this chess game, or is also alluding to the same thing this chess game is alluding to).

[POS Industries]

uu was definitely correct about UU's moving of her king to c2 being an awful move, seeing as she should have moved her rook to take the pawn at h6, putting his king back in check and keeping him on the defensive.

I'm not even good at chess at all and that was super obvious.

[Revising Ocelot]

That last panel? I still think they're separate people and uU being a weird multiple personality troll is a red herring. But I do like the idea of double dreamselves. For both of them.


I wonder how many more times Sollux can die, for that matter.

[Loyal]

I can't help but feel that these implications of UU and uu being the same person only with two distinct dream-selves/personalities are becoming too obvious.

Hussie's writing style has always focused on the journey more than the destination. It's obvious that uu and UU are, in some capacity, one and the same. What we don't know, and what Hussie will reveal in time, is how they're related, how they're both mutants of different color despite obviously being the same person, and other miscellaneous things like what's the deal with their session.

[Locke cole]

Or it'll turn out that they aren't one and the same at all, despite everything pointing to it.

Whichever way it goes, we can be sure that the narration will mock us for not figuring it out.

[Loyal]

Ah yes. I can't believe I forgot about that.

[Revising Ocelot]

uu was definitely correct about UU's moving of her king to c2 being an awful move, seeing as she should have moved her rook to take the pawn at h6, putting his king back in check and keeping him on the defensive.

I'm not even good at chess at all and that was super obvious.

So it was complacency by the learned one, then?

(sick references bro)

[Dracorion]

I suspect the reason we're visiting this scene is because UU is in a dream bubble. If so, who's playing uu?

[Bard The 5th LW]

Also currently too tired to decipher what the chess game is alluding to (other than the duel between Zazzerpan and Calmasis, which itself is either derived from this chess game, or is also alluding to the same thing this chess game is alluding to).

Might be foreshadowing. Of note, the White Queen was seen holding the scepter of the White King.

[Aldurin]

Well, DD was telling the truth. No one can escape the Red Miles.

[Locke cole]

GG: What an unusual house design. Are all homes in the future like this?

Well, shucks, buster. She knows about them being in the future?

[Art of Hilt]

I guess when she promised Roxy that she will believe everything she was also speaking retroactively

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

That's what I was thinking too. It wouldn't make much sense if she only believed stuff said after she made the promise.

"I trust you implicitly on everything that you say after today"

[Revising Ocelot]

I thought Roxy was supposed to enter the game last, not second. Probably some weird time shit that's going to happen.

[Art of Hilt]

She's not entering the game the last but she's still the last in the chain.

If Jane is the first (the leader), then her client will always be considered the last in the chain, no matter when she actually enters.

[Aldurin]

Whelp, hopefully this update means that Hussie is killing of the most boring character early on, hopefully to be replaced with three more Dirks.

[Locke cole]

He already killed her once, and it didn't take. All it did was make her shiny.

[Art of Hilt]

He already killed her once, and it didn't take. All it did was make her shiny.

Are you talking about Kanaya

http://static.pokato.net/2010-10-24-17-15-461632671210.jpg

[Revising Ocelot]

She's not entering the game the last but she's still the last in the chain.

If Jane is the first (the leader), then her client will always be considered the last in the chain, no matter when she actually enters.

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. Can you clarify the hers and shes? I remember Dirk saying somewhere that Roxy would be last to enter the game because Roxy is constantly in a drunken sleepy haze.
Jane's server was Dirk/shades as he helped Jane get in the game, so he'd actually be second to enter, by the standards of the previous universes anyway.

Also, the gifs are the best thing about Jane.

http://i.imgur.com/7Uduc.gif

[Art of Hilt]

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. Can you clarify the hers and shes? I remember Dirk saying somewhere that Roxy would be last to enter the game because Roxy is constantly in a drunken sleepy haze.

Well I skimmed through the logs on the search page but I don't see anything where they explicitly said Roxy will be the last to enter

Just that she won't be Jane's server anymore, and I guess after we found out that Dirk wanted to be Jake's client, everyone assumed Roxy will enter last? When in reality all it means is that she'll be Jane's client. It just means that they won't enter one after another like in the kids session and more like the troll session after they realized they were all playing the same game and had to connect the red and blue teams.

Maybe if they had their normal pace Roxy would have literally entered last? But the Condesce is pushing them. Either way their place in the chain is still the same as planned: Jane <- Dirk <- Jake <- Roxy. Except now it's more like... uh...
Jane <- Dirk
And then Roxy <- Jane
And then Dirk <- Jake
And then finally Jake <- Roxy.
It's still the same chain, they just enter at a less straightforward way.

[Arcanum]

I'm getting the feeling that Dirk and Roxy's real-selves are going to die, and that the intro to [S] DD: Ascend wasn't just for suspenseful mystery purposes and that the session will actually be lacking 2-3 planets, and that the 8 planets around the frog ruins was just a red herring.

Alternatively, Jake will save Jane and that ship will sail.

Alternatively, Dirk will save Jake and that ship will sail.

Alternatively, Dirk will save both Jake and Jane and then both Jake and Jane will swoon for Dirk.

Alternatively Roxy's dreamself will show up, still asleep, and save all of them, and the Roxy x Everyone ship will be fulfilled (I'm assuming that's an actual ship because every ship exists in homestuck).

[Aldurin]

Man, what Shades Dirk wouldn't do to get a robot that could slap the reckless adventurer out of Jane and Jake . . .

[Revising Ocelot]

Was there ever an explanation for why the Brobot blew itself up?

[Arcanum]

He ripped out his Uranium heart so that Jake could power up the sendificator in the frog ruins.

[Revising Ocelot]

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/04586.gif

[Arcanum]

Pretty sure that was just a callback to Aradiabot ripping out and smashing her heart against a rock. There's nothing saying Jake didn't just grab those smashed pieces to power up the sendificator, and since that's the only source of Uranium left on his island that we know of it seems all the more likely.

[POS Industries]

VOLUME MOTHERFUCKING NINE. (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/homestuck-vol-9)

[Revising Ocelot]

There's nothing saying Jake didn't just grab those smashed pieces to power up the sendificator

There's nothing saying he did, either. If the Brobot smashed his heart for love, it was because of that miserable Jane encroaching on Dirk's territory.

[Arcanum]

VOLUME MOTHERFUCKING NINE. (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/homestuck-vol-9)

hoshit

[Revising Ocelot]

49 tracks? Fuck that noise, I haven't even listened to the previous two albums yet.

[Locke cole]

*sees track called "hate you*"

Must be Meenah's theme.

*Is proven clairvoyant*

[Arcanum]

Oh god. The post-punk version of Midnight Crew is atrocious.

The rest of the album that I've listened to is pretty aces though.

[Art of Hilt]

I'm only thirteen songs into this album but holy shit yes

I heard that if you listen to the album backwards, it can serve as an aphrodisiac to anyone who is listening

[Locke cole]

Crystalmethaquins is pretty good.

[Loyal]

I'd enjoy it more if the bass weren't so fucking loud.

[stefan]

Oh god. The post-punk version of Midnight Crew is atrocious.


I'm fairly certain that the person who did that one doesn't have any fucking idea what post-punk actually is.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I liked MT&HK and Bowman's other stuff a lot but I just couldn't bring myself to care for that cover.

[Arcanum]

The hints are too obvious! Too obvious I say! Red herrings everywhere! AAaaaaahhhhhhh!!! So much goddamn fish!

[Locke cole]

So, Jack is still killing this universe? Like, all over again?

[Dracorion]

Looks like. Though uu seems to be saying it's not pre-Scratch Jack.

And for a while now I've kept getting these vibes that uu and UU are the result of all the trolls (including possibly the dead ones) shooting their stuff into a bucket.

[Art of Hilt]

The frog holds all iterations of the universe in it according to uu, so I guess no matter the timeline or the number of Scratches it goes through it will always die at the exact same time because that's when Noir killed it.

Also yeah wow that post punk thing is...

Shit, what was the musician thinking

[Dracorion]

Except the pre-Scratch universe died years in the future (but not many).

EDIT: Derp, guess who forgot that Dirk and Roxy probably live in that future.

[Locke cole]

Bard, probably.

[Arcanum]

The frog holds all iterations of the universe in it according to uu, so I guess no matter the timeline or the number of Scratches it goes through it will always die at the exact same time because that's when Noir killed it.

Pretty much this.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Bard, probably.

??????????

[Locke cole]

¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿

[Aldurin]

I think post-scratch Cal is going to be absolutely frightening, especially given the ominous workings that were just described when paradox Cal happens (Gamzee still has pre-scratch Cal, I assume, and is already running amok in the post-scratch session, if Dirk makes it through without destroying Cal then apparently terrifying paradox shit happens).

[Arcanum]

I wouldn't say terrifying paradox shit happens, since Paradox Space has a way of working everything out, whether people want it to or not.

That said, who knows what Paradox Space has in store for this clusterfuck of a session.

[Revising Ocelot]

A double Lord English!

What does it mean???




But really, I wouldn't put it past the story to come up at some point with a completely different looking version of LE to fuck with the characters directly while Calglish continues shooting every version of Andrew Hussie to ever exist.


EDIT: More seriously, I was just listening to Expedition and I can actually hear English (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) in there. :(

[Marelo]

It's always funny to me to see a unified opinion about a work in one place and a unified opposite opinion in another.

I haven't listened to the post-punk whatever but you guys basically hate it and my Tumblr buds basically love it. WEIRD.

[Arcanum]

So I've apparently listened to the whole album about 4 or 5 times now. I have it playing in the background while I play SMNC and most of the songs just kind of blur together (in a good way) since I'm sufficiently distracted. However a few songs manage to stick out so I check their name, and I think it's safe to say that Moonsetter is my favorite song on this album so far.

[Aldurin]

I have it playing in the background while I play SMNC

Good lord that is brilliant.

I also realized what the uu/UU chess game is absolutely referencing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m7dcbIKvlw)

[Loyal]

All that technological greatness and Momrose leaves her buckets to fight fires with?

Oh no, this is all about troll bleatbeasts and the getting thereof.

[Art of Hilt]

Rose's xenophilia is beyond legendary.

First she nabs troll porn in the last intermission and now this?

Her troll lust is an insatiable constant throughout all iterations of the universe.

[Locke cole]

Like John Cusack.

[Dracorion]

Roxy's drink is gone!

WHAT MONSTER COULD'VE DONE THIS.

Also, dammit UU what is up with those boobs what kind of debauchery is this.

[MuMu]

what the fucking shit

[Revising Ocelot]

uh

[Art of Hilt]

SHIT

SHIT

SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT

SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

I am not even going to say what happened in the spoilers just SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT

[Arhra]

Soooo, we might have just found out how to stop an invincible time travelling demon.

[Ecks]

so uu is le
welp I guess were fucked

[Loyal]

Or perhaps they're just of the same species.

I'm thinking it's more likely that uu turns into LE somehow. Or maybe they fuck and the resultant creature is LE.

No doubt the fanartists and especially the shippers are scrambling all over this update.

TA: but before ii diie, iim goiing two go bliind liike you.
TA: iit ha2 two happen liike that.
TA: iim not 2ure why, but ii thiink iit2 liike...
TA: fulfiilliing 2ome requiirement for a true prophet of doom.
TA: iin order for the vii2iion2 two be riight, that ha2 two happen, and the uniiver2e wiill make 2ure iit wiill.
TA: iit2 kiind of liike how a prophet earn2 hii2 2triipe2, by beiing bliind, liike how an angel earn2 iit2 wiing2.
GC: WH4TS 4N 4NG3L
TA: 2ome terriible mythiical demon.
TA: wiith the2e awful feathery wiing2.
GC: Y1K3S
TA: paradox 2pace u2e2 them two u2her iin the end.
GC: HOW DO3S 1T KNOW WH4T 4NG3L TO US3... ........
TA: huh??
GC: >:?
TA: 2o yeah.
TA: we wiill all diie but mo2t e2peciially me, end of 2tory. (http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003982)

That is to say, LE should have some wings somewhere.

[Revising Ocelot]

uu is indeed highly like to be Lord English. UU is a Muse, an unrevealed class. She's also Space. I can't remember where it was stated, but apparently every session has a Time player and a Space player (the Alpha session notwithstanding, as they're getting their players imported). Since UU is Space, that obviously makes uu Time. And the class should be obvious from there.

Now let's all go to Gallifrey.

[Dracorion]

Motherfuck.

Those fucking eyyeeeesssssssss.

But UU and uu fusing or something and the result being LE isn't so far-fetched. LE's shenanigans have been mostly limited to the Troll universe, and uu hasn't shown a lot of interest in trolls I think?

[Bard The 5th LW]

Ahahaha go Hussie.

Puts a different spin on the talk of angels we've had up until now.

[Revising Ocelot]

Soooo, we might have just found out how to stop an invincible time travelling demon.

I just realised that this hinges on Roxy remembering how to spell it.

Initial evidence does not look promising.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Also, of note. Look at the color of Calliope's legs on this (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/04972.gif) page.

[Loyal]

I thought those were stockings or something.

[Solid Snake]

...Wow.
Hussie still apparently has the power to pull off a crazy cool twist.
(But why does uu name himself after Jake, I wonder?)

[Aldurin]

Ok, so LE is a cherub then, judging by the appearance. I don't know if that is more concerning or the fact that UU appears to be part Cal as her exclusive dreamself.

[Marc v4.0]

That was seriously a big fucking red herring. Bravo, Huss

[Dracorion]

...Wow.
Hussie still apparently has the power to pull off a crazy cool twist.
(But why does uu name himself after Jake, I wonder?)

Obviously because, you know.

Jake and uu are meant to be.

[Revising Ocelot]

Obviously because, you know.

Jake and uu are meant to be.

No, he's got the green boner for Dirk.


He must find out at some point about Dirk's crush on Jake.

[Solid Snake]

UU: heehee. no.
UU: that jUst happened to be a planet from yoUr system i thoUght was lovely.
UU: i was particUlarly strUck by its UniqUe rotation.
UU: it has very nice...
UU: bollocks, what's the word.
UU: the term that refers to a ball's topspin?

...Oh, UU.

Sidespin (english)

The term english (called "side" in the UK, and sometimes simply called "left" or "right", and sometimes "check side" for side that narrows the cue ball angle after contacting a rail, and "running side" for side that widens the cue ball angle after contacting a rail) normally refers to sidespin put on a cue ball by hitting it to the left or right of center. Generally, english is used to change the angle of reflection of the cue ball after it contacts a rail. English also affects the direction an object ball takes on impact (the "throw" effect), as well as the path of travel of the cue ball after impact with a cue ("deflection" or "squirt").

I'd like to believe that's intentional, but I'm not sure sidespin and topspin are the same.

[Locke cole]

I think we're definitely supposed to make that connection, what with hir sidestepping it and all.

edit: Oh, and if uU's titles are supposed to be the ultimate super-titles, then I can only imagine that uu is the Lord of Time or something like that.

[Revising Ocelot]

I think we're definitely supposed to make that connection, what with hir sidestepping it and all.

edit: Oh, and if uU's titles are supposed to be the ultimate super-titles, then I can only imagine that uu is the Lord of Time or something like that.

uu is indeed highly like to be Lord English. UU is a Muse, an unrevealed class. She's also Space. I can't remember where it was stated, but apparently every session has a Time player and a Space player (the Alpha session notwithstanding, as they're getting their players imported). Since UU is Space, that obviously makes uu Time. And the class should be obvious from there.

Now let's all go to Gallifrey.



Sorry I Thought That Was Obvious

[Bard The 5th LW]

And thus the fate of the world was placed in the hands of Roxy Lalonde's ability to spell Calliope.

e: Also, further evidence of uu being LE. According to Calliope, uu had the mutation of candy red blood. Her dead dreamself proves that she, indeed, has lime blood just as she claimed so there's no reason to doubt uu's red blood. Upon LE's introduction, guess what color his blood was?

[rpgdemon]

Why does he want Dirk to get rid of Cal, then?

[Revising Ocelot]

Going from the jealousy angle he probably, just like UU, hates how he looks. And Cal provides the general facial structure. He doesn't want to be reminded of that.

[Dracorion]

When did UU mention uu's blood color?

Also, when did we see LE's blood?

[Locke cole]

Sorry I Thought That Was Obvious

I blame the forum for skipping me to the next unviewed page rather than the next univewed post.

[Revising Ocelot]

When did UU mention uu's blood color?

Also, when did we see LE's blood?

This fairly recent page (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006862) and his introduction. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006011)

[Locke cole]

When did UU mention uu's blood color?

Also, when did we see LE's blood?

1: Here (http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006862)

2: Here (http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006011)

[Arcanum]

Why does he want Dirk to get rid of Cal, then?

This is what I'm wondering about.

I'm also curious about their "jUjUs" and what kind of role they might play in LE's creation and/or defeat.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Also, uu apparently loves the bitches and we know how big a pimp LE is.

[Locke cole]

He is a big pimp. At least eight feet.

[POS Industries]

So uu's name is Calmasis, I'm guessing.

He really is Big Cal, after all. (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1165285&postcount=8688)

[Bard The 5th LW]

Ahaha it just keeps getting deeper. uu considered Jack (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006878) to be his best friend.

The feeling (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005451) was apparently mutual, assuming uu is 'big Cal'.

[Arcanum]

Oh shit.

What the hell is with the jujubes? And the meat? And that chain?

Also, I'm assuming that the green book is where Calliope got all her lore from. Plus the broken chessboard means this is after the chess exchange so things might be getting crazy soon.

Also holy shit that's Doc Scratch's holster and belt in the background, isn't it? And is that Special Stardust?

[Revising Ocelot]

Oh shit.

What the hell is with the jujubes? And the meat? And that chain?

Also, I'm assuming that the green book is where Calliope got all her lore from. Plus the broken chessboard means this is after the chess exchange so things might be getting crazy soon.

Also holy shit that's Doc Scratch's holster and belt in the background, isn't it? And is that Special Stardust?

Let's just go with the Saw reference and assume uu saws his own leg off to escape the shackle. Hey, peg leg!

Also, the meat is probably because she's Homestuck Hamsteak?

[Bard The 5th LW]

Let's just go with the Saw reference and assume uu saws his own leg off to escape the shackle. Hey, peg leg!

Dammit RO I was about to say that!

[Dracorion]

I doubt it. The shackle seems to be just above the ankle whereas LE is missing his leg below the knee.

[Locke cole]

The Jujubes are because they're Jujubes.

[Art of Hilt]

I doubt it. The shackle seems to be just above the ankle whereas LE is missing his leg below the knee.

That's just what it looks like as a sprite.
A more detailed drawing shows otherwise. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006761)

[Locke cole]

...Maybe they're not sharing a body? The hints are going all over the place, though. On the one hand, one only seems to be awake when the other is asleep. On the other hand, they both seem to buy into the other having a different blood color, and uu seems to be murderous rather than suicidial. On the first hand, Calliope talking about face-paint as something uu hates to wake up to suggests that it's a shared body. On the other hand, their fetch modus flings stuff to the other side of the room, and the dialogue is suggesting that uu is just on the other side of the room that we can't see.

And on a third hand, any or all of this can turn out to just be teasing at the one that doesn't end up happening! Argh!

Oh, update, by the way.

[Arcanum]

And you know Hussie is doing all this specifically to fuck with everyone claiming it's one theory or another.

I really want to know what that red and green thing is, the thing that is mostly obscured on the right side of frame.

e- Also I'm surprised there hasn't been a "Retrieve (fake) arms from chest" command yet.

e2- I do find it pretty funny how Hussie is ripping on the fandom with these past few updates.

[Locke cole]

Past few? Man, Calliope has been a storm of jabs at the fandom since she first showed up.

[POS Industries]

in our fandom
we are the lord english.
its us.

[Revising Ocelot]

Oh look, more evidence that Gamzee is up to no good.

[Ryong]

Calliope is supposed to be the obnoxious fandom character, after all.

Also, I expect uu is asleep in the bed they have in said neutral territory. I'd say they share a dreamself, not their actual body.

[Arcanum]

You know, since Calliope represents the fandom, I think it's safe to say http://www.mspaintadventures.com/advimgs/ps/ps1529_5.gif

And now I'm convinced that Calliope and uu share a body, and that their shared bed is a god-tier bed (possibly shaped like a stump), and that uu will shoot himself on it with the gun that is missing from the holster hanging in Calliope's room (the reason uu has it is because Callope captalogued it at some point). uu will then ascend to god-tier and become Lord English. The reason he takes Jake's name is because he saw that Jake gets all the bitches, and uu wants is to find a mate (hence his obsession with pimping the various bitches). Yes, that's right folks, I'm calling it now. Homestuck was actually all about Lord English's attempts to find another cherub and make some green skull monster babies.

[Revising Ocelot]

The reason he takes Jake's name is because he saw that Jake gets all the bitches, and uu wants is to find a mate (hence his obsession with pimping the various bitches). Yes, that's right folks, I'm calling it now. Homestuck was actually all about Lord English's attempts to find another cherub and make some green skull monster babies.

he's got the green boner for Dirk.


He must find out at some point about Dirk's crush on Jake.



Sorry I Thought That Was Obvious

[Arcanum]

It was obvious. Hence why I included it in my theory that is most definitely not far-fetched. I'm pretty good at this whole theory-making business.

[Locke cole]

"Dualing" weapon. Haah. haah. haah.

[Ryong]

Oh fine I was wrong they do share a body.

[Arcanum]

What a twist.

[Ryong]

To be fair, the idea that they just share a bed and go all "hey asshole, I need to sleep" whenever they're tired would totally make sense with their stupid rules.




http://i.imgur.com/Rd3E0Ew.png

[Revising Ocelot]

We were all completely blown away by this stunning revelation.


But yeah, I was hoping for something not so blatantly obvious, but eh.

[Arcanum]

So Lord English enters a Universe at the moment of its death, right? Well doesn't it also seem plausible that LE's initial creation would be under similar circumstances, only possibly much grander? The only thing is, what's of greater significance than the death of a whole universe? Well that would be the death of time, existence, and every remaining universe.

What I'm saying is, Calliope is looking at the Green Sun in its final moments and when that sucker goes supernova every session in the Furthest Ring will be wiped out, along with any frogs they contain.

And Lord English will be born for the very first time.

[Locke cole]

Or perhaps Lord English is someone else, and we're just being racist towards Cherubs. They all look the same to us, and all that.

[MuMu]

Calliope's revelation was on Father's Day. Lord English is Callie and Calmasis' father and all he wants is to find his lost children:3:

[Arcanum]

Or Calli is the father (dun dun dunnnnn).

Or knowing time shenanigans, Calli is both the father and the child of LE (dun dun dunnnnnnn)

[Locke cole]

Also: update.

[Art of Hilt]

oh no my babies' house

[Revising Ocelot]

http://i.imgur.com/oZne6.jpg

[Ryong]

Also: Hussie doesn't feel like being consistent with what leg is the chain on.

[Locke cole]

You have to turn it.

Flip-ways.

[Locke cole]

Okay. Who was alchemizing SBAHJified Statues of liberty? It sounds like the kind of crap Dave would get up to in the long time between universes.

So, is that supposed to be Scratched Earth in the distant, distant future, after the meteor comes to the session? No, that can't be it, because the universe is already ending in Dirk's time...

[Art of Hilt]

YOU MANIACS

YOU BLEW IT ALL UP

SEVERAL TIMES APPARENTLY

[MuMu]

Homestuck climax will be Lord English shooting himself in the mouth with the cueball loaded magnum.

[Locke cole]

I believe it would be more likely for Scratch to shoot himself in the mouth, followed shortly by Lord English spitting it back out.

[Arhra]

Scratch don't have a mouth.

[Locke cole]

Details, details.

[Flarecobra]

Okay. Who was alchemizing SBAHJified Statues of liberty? It sounds like the kind of crap Dave would get up to in the long time between universes.

So, is that supposed to be Scratched Earth in the distant, distant future, after the meteor comes to the session? No, that can't be it, because the universe is already ending in Dirk's time...

A universe. Keeping in mind the multiverse thing they got going... the interdementional ability of their IM systems...

[Locke cole]

But if this is the same meteor, that would mean it would take another interdimensional trip after the one it's currently on.

[Flarecobra]

It hasn't made one yet.

[Ryong]

Didn't Alpha Dave get rich by making SBaHJ versions of stuff...and then shipping it all to space?

Or was that just with unreal airs?

[Locke cole]

It hasn't made one yet.

Well, it's in the process of doing so.

Technically, I suppose you could say it's already successfully crossed dimensions by going from Scratched Trollverse to the Furthest Ring.

[Pip Boy]

I have tried like 5 times in the last week to catch up on homestuck, and each time I end up going "What in the flop is even going on here?" and walk away.

[Aldurin]

Your problem is simple, all of the answers lie ahead, and the only solution/cure is to keep trudging through it.

[POS Industries]

I have tried like 5 times in the last week to catch up on homestuck, and each time I end up going "What in the flop is even going on here?" and walk away.
Nothing is fresh in your mind anymore. I suggest starting over from the very beginning.

[Overcast]

Seconded.

[Pip Boy]

But couldn't I just spend the same amount of time and thought curing world hunger instead?

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

You wouldn't get anything done though.

[IHateMakingNames]

Curing world hunger isn't worth not reading Act 6 Intermission 2.

[Revising Ocelot]

So.

Calliope: Sleep or Roxy: Enter?

[Aldurin]

I get the feeling that the recent SBaHJ updates are trying to tell me to stop looking at them for bizarre prophetic crap.

[Revising Ocelot]

I get the feeling that the recent SBaHJ updates are trying to tell me to stop looking at them for bizarre prophetic crap.

Especially since the last ones aren't recent at all.

[Solid Snake]

Fifty zillion statues of liberty
For a second there I thought this was evidence this took place on Earth, for some zany reason, but now I'm just wondering if this planet's designer was just exceptionally strange

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I was thinking Mars, and it's the remains of some of the junk Alpha Dave dumped in space.
Other than that I guess it's the Alpha Session version of the meteor.

[Arcanum]

I was thinking Mars, and it's the remains of some of the junk Alpha Dave dumped in space.
Other than that I guess it's the Alpha Session version of the meteor.

Well, according to wikipedia Mars would still exist if our sun became a red giant. However, a Red Supergiant would end up something like http://i.imgur.com/K72pI.png.

Plus there's whole Red Miles thing. It would be pretty impressive for an iteration of our universe to avoid the Miles for that long.

[Marc v4.0]

Welp. There goes the whole fucking pot.

[Locke cole]

Alright, so main Jane is dead, Jake is KO'd Roxy might be dead, although that depends entirely on whether that sequence was real, or just uu's imagining of what was about to happen, and Dream Dirk is KO's.

Only way this could be salvaged is if Dream Dirk somehow wakes up in time to kiss Jane and save her dreamself from sympathetic injury.

[rpgdemon]

Should probably spoiler tag that, Locke. The new pages don't appear on the site proper, and I had no idea what was going on with your post.

If you can't see the pages from the index page, go to the last page, and it'll have a link to the character select screen.

[Marelo]

Okay I was wondering what the hell was going on with that. Thanks for the heads up, rpgdemon.

[Aldurin]

Welp, Sburb is officially the land of fuck-ups no matter what. Also so oddly again I felt the most emotional pull from Lil' Seb's death than any actual character's.

[Locke cole]

Welp, Sburb is officially the land of fuck-ups no matter what. Also so oddly again I felt the most emotional pull from Lil' Seb's death than any actual character's.

Dear, sweet Lil' Seb is still alive (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007064). Not Pyralspite's glaresplode threw them apart, but the two of them are still intact. Unless Seb shorted out from hitting the water or something. Because he was still flailing about after the explosion.

[IHateMakingNames]

I'm confused with what happened to main Dirk. Did Lil' Cal kick him and jump or something? Why did Dirk get KO'd?

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I kinda thought it was just part of him sharing consciousness between both. Normally if one is awake the other is asleep, but since Dirk is always both when one gets knocked out the other does too. He dropped Cal cause he was knocked out.

[Revising Ocelot]

Yeah, his Derse chat bubble blacking out implies it was a knock-on effect.

At least Jake will be OK, since that cloudvision thingy from that one flash (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006290) a while back has yet to happen. Likely him popping back into the dream bubble, along with DreamRoxy starting to bleed out, will really spur the crowd there into action. Hell, that'll probably form part of A6A3.

Also, notice the robo-leg next to uu's PC? Definitely going to get his Saw on. Didn't Hussie say at one point that LE resembled Jigsaw, anyway? The inevitable red spirals on his face will certainly seal it.


EDIT: Also, bow tie and suspenders. 100% sure he's Lord of Time now.

[Solid Snake]

Hah, I seriously thought there hadn't been an update since all the links appeared 'purple' in the Latest Pages tab.
Glad I checked up on that anyway.

...Also this is getting bleak.

[POS Industries]

Well, that's certainly a bad sign all around.

I guess we are getting close to the beta kids' point of entry into the new session, though. Because somebody has to clean up this mess, right?

[Arcanum]

Well, that's certainly a bad sign all around.

I guess we are getting close to the beta kids' point of entry into the new session, though. Because somebody has to clean up this mess, right?

Alternatively: Gamzee starts corpse smooching.