View Full Version : Senior pushes suicide jumper in south China
Bells
05-23-2009, 05:16 PM
T'hell ?!
Chen Fuchao, a man heavily in debt, had been contemplating suicide on a bridge in southern China for hours when a passer-by came up, shook his hand -- and pushed him off the ledge.
Chen fell 26 feet (8 meters) onto a partially inflated emergency air cushion laid out by authorities and survived, suffering spine and elbow injuries, the official Xinhua News Agency said Saturday.
The passer-by, 66-year-old Lai Jiansheng, had been fed up with what he called Chen's "selfish activity," Xinhua said. Traffic around the Haizhu bridge in the city of Guangzhou had been backed up for five hours and police had cordoned off the area.
"I pushed him off because jumpers like Chen are very selfish. Their action violates a lot of public interest," Lai was quoted as saying by Xinhua. "They do not really dare to kill themselves. Instead, they just want to raise the relevant government authorities' attention to their appeals."
Xinhua said Lai was "taken away by police" but did not elaborate.
A police officer who answered the telephone Saturday at a station close to the bridge confirmed the incident and said it was under investigation. He refused to give any other details and hung up.
According to Xinhua, Chen wanted to kill himself because he had accrued 2 million yuan ($290,000) in debt from a failed construction project.
On Thursday, he made his way to the Haizhu bridge, where 11 other people have tried to take their lives since April.
Lai volunteered to talk Chen down but was turned away by police, Xinhua said. Lai then broke through the cordon, climbed to where Chen sat, greeted him with a handshake, then pushed.
Photos in the Beijing Morning Post showed Lai, shoeless and in a T-shirt, saluting after Chen fell.
The paper said Lai was released on bail Friday but did not give any details. It said he had been on medication for "a mental illness" for decades and had been on his way to a hospital for his pills.
Chen was recovering in the hospital, Xinhua said.
Leason of the Day: In China, don't fuck around. If you want to jump, JUMP! Don't hold the damn traffic or Chinese elderly people will speed up your departure!
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BitVyper
05-23-2009, 05:42 PM
Apparently this is the twelfth time, so I can understand a bit of frustration, but man, there's a line.
Nique
05-23-2009, 05:59 PM
This sort of exemplifies (admittedly this is an extreme instance) the attitude problem a lot of older people have. I mean, it's not just the elderly but they seem to act on this impulse more than others. That sense of entitlement, the refusal to listen to logical reasoning when something upsets them...
I just don't understand at what point we begin to belive that our age in itself entitles us to what we want when we want it. I can sympathize with being frusterated with the fast pace of the world and a certain inability to cope with things as well as we once did, but when you start threatening to kill people with your shotgun (happened to me) or, in this case, pushing folks off a bridge, well, I'm not really willing to extend to you the usual grace with which I treat my elders.
Mike McC
05-23-2009, 06:20 PM
This sort of exemplifies (admittedly this is an extreme instance) the attitude problem a lot of older people have. I mean, it's not just the elderly but they seem to act on this impulse more than others. That sense of entitlement, the refusal to listen to logical reasoning when something upsets them...
I just don't understand at what point we begin to belive that our age in itself entitles us to what we want when we want it. I can sympathize with being frusterated with the fast pace of the world and a certain inability to cope with things as well as we once did, but when you start threatening to kill people with your shotgun (happened to me) or, in this case, pushing folks off a bridge, well, I'm not really willing to extend to you the usual grace with which I treat my elders.You did read the line about "a mental illness" and the guy was going to get his pills, right? I don't think this is a proper scenario to use to launch into a discussion about entitlement and the attitude problems of older people.
In fact, I dare say that the same amount of younguns act on this impluse than the elderly, if not moreso. This is not specific to older age in the slightest.
I mean, look at Road Rage.
Rejected Again
05-23-2009, 07:40 PM
So he was $290,000 in debt, Holding up traffic, and pissing off old people. Depending on how long I had been stuck in traffic, I would probably push him off also.
Sarcastic remarks aside, that old guy was crazy. I wonder if he would have made the same choice had he had his meds. I guess the topic up for debate is: Can those who have a mental illness be held accountable for their actions. Depending on the severity of the illness its my opinion that they should be. Lai was clearly able to know right from wrong in this situation and it was a matter of him just getting far to irritated.
As for attitudes of the elderly. They have 3 attitudes that I have generally witnessed.
1) The Cranky "Get off my lawn you snot nosed brats" crazy old person
2) The sweet caring types. You know, the ones that have candy and WONT rape you.
3) The "Meh" aka normal Old people. These ones are rare but they still exist.
BitVyper
05-23-2009, 08:05 PM
Yeah, that's right: Seniors aren't actually individuals. Once you hit fifty five, the government takes you to a reprogramming facility and replaces your personality with one of three cliches.
Seriously, can we cut down on the ageism a bit?
Rejected Again
05-23-2009, 08:15 PM
Bit you don't live in Iowa do you? Once you come here you suddenly realize those cliches are true. I live in a small community here are I swear that they all act in one of those 3 manners.
bluestarultor
05-23-2009, 08:18 PM
Well, you've got the archetypes, yes, but there's a lot of expression past that. My mom worked in nursing homes, so I heard a lot about old people for many years. The rich ones are the worst of the worst if they're bad, apparently, because DAMMIT if their money doesn't entitle them to whatever they want.
Edit: To provide an example, there was one lady who needed to take medication to live, and when my mom tried to give it to her, the woman actually ordered my mom to beg her to do it.
Professor Smarmiarty
05-23-2009, 08:42 PM
Bit you don't live in Iowa do you? Once you come here you suddenly realize those cliches are true. I live in a small community here are I swear that they all act in one of those 3 manners.
Memories are funny things. It's been well shown that we tend to remember things that fit to our previously held beliefs and reject odd details.
This is part of the reason stereotypes are so pervasive in that we remember the instances where they fit and forget all the contrasting evidence.
And you've summed up a whole set of people in three sentences. Not a single person in the world conforms to a sentence description no matter how much we choose to caraciture them.
These no need to insult whole groups of people. I mean you wouldn't summarise, say, African Americans in a single sentence so why old people?
Azisien
05-23-2009, 08:46 PM
Pushed to the point where he shoved a man off a bridge, and the guy didn't even die! Man!
Krylo
05-23-2009, 08:46 PM
I mean you wouldn't summarise, say, African Americans in a single sentence
Sure I would: They are people currently residing in America whose skin is of an, often, darker shade than those from more European roots.
Azisien
05-23-2009, 08:50 PM
Sure I would: They are people currently residing in America whose skin is of an, often, darker shade than those from more European roots.
Uh ohs Krylo pulled an RE5.
BitVyper
05-23-2009, 09:12 PM
Bit you don't live in Iowa do you? Once you come here you suddenly realize those cliches are true. I live in a small community here are I swear that they all act in one of those 3 manners.
I'm fully aware that stereotypes are based on truths. The thing is, you can use stereotypes to your advantage when interacting with people you don't know, but you use them because you're ignorant of the actual individual's personality. When you start defining people by them, like by saying something along the lines of "old people are either this, this, or this," then instead of using them to your advantage, you're using them to avoid actually learning about the individual, perpetuating your own ignorance. And you turn them from individuals, into a faceless group.
Fenris
05-23-2009, 09:13 PM
Bit you don't live in Iowa do you? Once you come here you suddenly realize those cliches are true. I live in a small community here are I swear that they all act in one of those 3 manners.
I live in Iowa.
You're incorrect and overgeneralizing people.
BitVyper
05-23-2009, 09:20 PM
Sure I would: They are people currently residing in America whose skin is of an, often, darker shade than those from more European roots.
You racist bastard. It's people like you.... *shakes head in disgust*
Eldezar
05-23-2009, 09:22 PM
Sure I would: They are people currently residing in America whose skin is of an, often, darker shade than those from more European roots.
My definition would be more along the lines of "People who previously lived in Africa, but now live in America." Nobody calls me a Euro-American or German-American. And what about white people born and raised in Africa, but then eventually move to America?
Being politically correct is almost as bad as stereotyping, I say. I know some kick-ass old people. They got history and wisdom and such. I also have two really cranky old neighbors that I wish I could push off a bridge. Not because they are stereotypical cranky old people, but because they are cranky people.
BitVyper
05-23-2009, 09:32 PM
Being politically correct is almost as bad as stereotyping
Being politically correct is getting upset when someone uses the word "old" and telling them to refer to the elderly as "age challenged." Being respectful of your fellow man, is not saying "hey, you're old; which do you hate more: skateboards, or angry music?"
And just to give an example for my earlier statement:
Positive use of sterotypes: "Maybe I shouldn't make jokes about the slave trade to my dark skinned friend. He might be alright with it, but I don't actually know him that well. Better to err on the side of caution."
Negative use: "Hey, Gerome; yeah you. How many rap albums do you own? Can I see your gun?"
bluestarultor
05-23-2009, 09:34 PM
My definition would be more along the lines of "People who previously lived in Africa, but now live in America." Nobody calls me a Euro-American or German-American. And what about white people born and raised in Africa, but then eventually move to America?
Being politically correct is almost as bad as stereotyping, I say. I know some kick-ass old people. They got history and wisdom and such. I also have two really cranky old neighbors that I wish I could push off a bridge. Not because they are stereotypical cranky old people, but because they are cranky people.
See, the difference with white people is that it's harder to tell where they came from. There are such terms as Irish American and such, but it's harder to look at someone and say, "man, he's got French skin there." With African Americans, you can't even boil it down past a fucking continent. It's not like you call them "Zimbabwean Americans" or anything. But yes, you can go by continent. That's why we have African American, Asian American, and Native American, and yes, even European American in our language.
phil_
05-23-2009, 09:38 PM
I'm just going to say saying "You racist bastard" seems a bit unkind for NPF... I dunno, I'm drunk, but the joke kinda didn't occur to me until I stared writing this. I wouldn't want new members to think that's how we roll, you know?
Also, I'm glad we're in general, so that I can say that pushing a guy who wasn't gonna do it is sort of okay. Hopefully, Mr. Suicide learned to appreciate his life more.
Edit: In response to bluestarultor, I called myself European American a couple times in High school. No one seems to care where you're from at my college unless you're East Asian.
BitVyper
05-23-2009, 09:43 PM
That's okay; if people take it as an honest statement about Krylo's character, it will distract them from the horrifying truth about him.
Bells
05-23-2009, 10:18 PM
You know, if any of you are going for Political correctness than start calling Americans "North Americans", because i live on the South American continent, therefore i should also be a "South American" but i'm "Latin American" because my country used to be a part of Portugal / Spain, but my family has Italian Heritage so maybe i'm just Euro Trash... i dunno, Political Correctness is hard.
Regardless, that doesn't null the fact that Old people in China are crazy.
And i wouldn't blame the Medication for that one... i Mean, the guy Asked the cops to get near the Jumper, when denied he broke the isolation area and went TO the guy, shook his hand, and Then PUSHED him and SALUTED.
Methinks he thought this trough.
POS Industries
05-23-2009, 10:28 PM
You know, if any of you are going for Political correctness than start calling Americans "North Americans"
See, that doesn't work though because we had the good sense to put "America" in the name of the country before anyone else did and had it notarized and such. We're officially Americans and everyone else can suck it.
Nique
05-23-2009, 10:30 PM
I don't feel like I'm being ageist. I'm certainly not throwing in with the 'there are 3 types of old people' camp, but there does seem to be this common nuttiness that comes with age where you just sort of throw caution to the wind and start driving 22MPH in the fast lane.
And all age groups have their common problems. It doesn't mean I think everyone conforms to what is commonly associated with their age groups, only the ones that do.
bluestarultor
05-23-2009, 10:43 PM
See, that doesn't work though because we had the good sense to put "America" in the name of the country before anyone else did and had it notarized and such. We're officially Americans and everyone else can suck it.
Yeah, even in French, we're American (américain/américaine), even though our country is usually properly referred to as les Etats-Unis with no reference to America. Although informally, they do call it l'Amérique.
Besides, it sounds a helluva lot better than "United-Statesian." XD
Bells
05-23-2009, 11:03 PM
See, that doesn't work though because we had the good sense to put "America" in the name of the country before anyone else did and had it notarized and such. We're officially Americans and everyone else can suck it.
You see? you guys had to went ahead and call dibs on the whole damn continent, now everybody else feels alienated. The fact that you guys also created google, microsoft, the iphone and most of the tubes of the internetz is not helping either!
bluestarultor
05-23-2009, 11:09 PM
You see? you guys had to went ahead and call dibs on the whole damn continent, now everybody else feels alienated. The fact that you guys also created google, microsoft, the iphone and most of the tubes of the internetz is not helping either!
Well, you people need to get with it, then! Renewable energy technology ain't making itself! :p
...Actually, that would be a really wise idea. With Obama in office, the first country to approach us with banana peel-based solar technology or something is going to make a killing! XD
Magus
05-23-2009, 11:12 PM
Lethal Weapon is popular in China, too? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOqpoie1iuc)
Meister
05-24-2009, 02:17 AM
Apparently this is the twelfth time, so I can understand a bit of frustration, but man, there's a line
... forming behind the guy who's threatening to jump.
Aerozord
05-24-2009, 02:36 AM
I must agree I dont think his age had anything to do with it. Far as he was concerned this was a man just trying to get attention, and if not, well he wanted to jump anyways. Plus think about what this man had seen in his 65 years of life. He probably looks at his complaints and just thinks "What? Thats it?"
Besides, it sounds a helluva lot better than "United-Statesian." XD
or United States of American. America is a diverse nation, I personally have 5 nations of origin, two of which dont even exist anymore. Its just simpler to generalize because anything else is impracticle. heck i'm fairly certain other nations identify americans by the fact that based on appearance they have no freakin clue where you are from.
Professor Smarmiarty
05-24-2009, 04:56 AM
See, the difference with white people is that it's harder to tell where they came from. There are such terms as Irish American and such, but it's harder to look at someone and say, "man, he's got French skin there." With African Americans, you can't even boil it down past a fucking continent. It's not like you call them "Zimbabwean Americans" or anything. But yes, you can go by continent. That's why we have African American, Asian American, and Native American, and yes, even European American in our language.
It's harder to tell where white people come from? I'm not even sure what you are getting at there when your next statement is that you can't even boil black people past Africa which is far larger than say Europe.
And you can boil black people past "Africa". Skin colour is usually a dead giveaway as to which part of Africa they are from as is voice.
Same with how "Asians" aren't just from Asia and can generlaly be narrowed down.
Well, you people need to get with it, then! Renewable energy technology ain't making itself! :p
...Actually, that would be a really wise idea. With Obama in office, the first country to approach us with banana peel-based solar technology or something is going to make a killing! XD
Unlikely! Big business has been holding back such energy developments for the last 40 years. They are unlikely to stop now.
Back on topic:
There is some meaning to the "Old people are crazy" stereotype as older people are far more susceptible to mental deteriration and change. But it's not all that much more accurate than "asian people are smart" or "Irish people like to get drunk and fight".
katiuska
05-24-2009, 12:36 PM
It's harder to tell where white people come from? I'm not even sure what you are getting at there when your next statement is that you can't even boil black people past Africa which is far larger than say Europe.
...I have a whole spiel on this, but it's straying too far off topic. Actually, this is probably what that thing I was going to do is for, so I'm taking it there.
Anyway, ageism.
Bit you don't live in Iowa do you? Once you come here you suddenly realize those cliches are true. I live in a small community here are I swear that they all act in one of those 3 manners.
How small are we talking? I'll grant that the bigger cities are a bit different, but my only "get off my lawn" incident involved a guy probably in his mid-thirties. There was a park, and I was sidling around the fence looking for the entrance. He happened to live to one side of said fence and did not like me going through the edge of his property. This was in Ames.
We've addressed the issue of ageism in class a bit. It can go either way, but U.S. culture prizes youth. Senior citizens have a disturbingly high rate of depression, because hey, being old here sucks. Offhand I'd say that old folks are entitled to a certain amount of respect, to the extent that age implies a decades-long record of adding to the community. The classes were instructive, though. When asked, all of us admitted we'd want a counselor no older than middle age, because anyone older would be too "out of touch" with our needs. "There aren't universal truths about some things?" the professor asked. "Like love?"
My instinct is to say yes and no. The fundamental experiences are probably the same, but context can change. I've noticed this even with my parents, who are not elderly but left the dating scene some 30 years ago. It applies doubly to my dad as a man who grew up in a more traditional and patriarchal country. I find his opinions vis-a-vis men and women quaint. For example, a few years ago he said that staying over at a male friend's house was disrespectful to my then-boyfriend... whereas I saw it as not in any way different from staying with a female friend--the fact that said friend was a previous boyfriend notwithstanding (Dad didn't know this part, he would have disapproved even more). (We dated briefly at the beginning but both agreed that it didn't work, and we've stayed as friends for years now, so he's fundamentally a friend to me. So yes, cross-sex friendships can exist and be just like same-sex friendship, though it can be harder. In that case it helped that there were no regrets on either side.)
When my then-boyfriend and I had to do the long-distance thing for a while (well, sort of long-distance, we were 2 hours apart) both my parents were concerned, because were coming from an expectation that the boy travels to the girl. In that context, making her travel means something bad. In our context, I drove there, because I had a car, he didn't, and it was that simple. In turn, he paid for most meals.
...Holy shit I write too much. What I'm saying is that they don't quite get that we do things differently then they did. But if I were to ask them a question like, "What characterizes a loving relationship?" I'd have a good chance of getting an answer that could apply to me as well as them. So basically, I feel conditionally justified in preferring a younger person's opinion... but maybe there's covert ageism that I can't see as well because I can't step outside myself?
Azisien
05-24-2009, 01:11 PM
Back on topic:
There is some meaning to the "Old people are crazy" stereotype as older people are far more susceptible to mental deteriration and change. But it's not all that much more accurate than "asian people are smart" or "Irish people like to get drunk and fight".
But all my asian friends are smart and all my Irish friends like to get drunk and fight...
Ahhhhh!
Osterbaum
05-24-2009, 01:21 PM
See, that doesn't work though because we had the good sense to put "America" in the name of the country before anyone else did and had it notarized and such. We're officially Americans and everyone else can suck it.
You are officially United Statetians of America, so suck it.
bluestarultor
05-24-2009, 01:27 PM
It's harder to tell where white people come from? I'm not even sure what you are getting at there when your next statement is that you can't even boil black people past Africa which is far larger than say Europe.
And you can boil black people past "Africa". Skin colour is usually a dead giveaway as to which part of Africa they are from as is voice.
Same with how "Asians" aren't just from Asia and can generlaly be narrowed down.
Only my point was that America is full of mutts. I'm personally German, Irish, Scottish, English, French, Austrian and Polish, with rumors of a little Jewish thrown in there. People are NOT going to look at me and recognize me as "German-Irish-Scottish-English-French-Austrian-Polish-with-rumors-of-a-little-Jewish-thrown-in-there American." If you have people who are African American who don't have a ton of European blood in their family tree, then yeah, maybe you can boil it down a little further, but with education of all the tribes sorely lacking in the general populace, it's just not common to have people rattling off specific African regions.
Asians are easier to guess at because you've got a few well-known regions to work with whose people have certain distinguishing features, but even then, you look like a total ass if you guess wrong.
Unlikely! Big business has been holding back such energy developments for the last 40 years. They are unlikely to stop now.
Which is why it needs to happen outside America. :P
Professor Smarmiarty
05-24-2009, 01:43 PM
Only my point was that America is full of mutts. I'm personally German, Irish, Scottish, English, French, Austrian and Polish, with rumors of a little Jewish thrown in there. People are NOT going to look at me and recognize me as "German-Irish-Scottish-English-French-Austrian-Polish-with-rumors-of-a-little-Jewish-thrown-in-there American." If you have people who are African American who don't have a ton of European blood in their family tree, then yeah, maybe you can boil it down a little further, but with education of all the tribes sorely lacking in the general populace, it's just not common to have people rattling off specific African regions.
Asians are easier to guess at because you've got a few well-known regions to work with whose people have certain distinguishing features, but even then, you look like a total ass if you guess wrong.
I think it's really just a cultural symptom in that we distinguish, say, different european countries, say this man is Irish and this man is British, which are virtually identical while homogenising whole continents such as Africa when they have huge differences in them.
I mean if you are going to call them African-Americans then all white Americans should be European-Americans with no real difference between them.
Like all those countries you liste din your blood are all very very similar to each other.
Which is why it needs to happen outside America. :P
The problem is that America still controls the world's manufacturing and economy so wherever you develop a new product it'll get shut down.
It's the same reason that we drive vastly inefficient cars that are basically the same design as they were in the 30s. People have designed vastly superior cars but they got shut down by the car industry who didn't feel like redesigning their entire business and production lines.
bluestarultor
05-24-2009, 03:00 PM
The problem is that America still controls the world's manufacturing and economy so wherever you develop a new product it'll get shut down.
It's the same reason that we drive vastly inefficient cars that are basically the same design as they were in the 30s. People have designed vastly superior cars but they got shut down by the car industry who didn't feel like redesigning their entire business and production lines.
Counterpoint: China doesn't import our cars because we don't meet their emissions standards. China also is the manufacturing capitol of the world. Very little is actually made in America.
Just because America is stuck in the 50s technologically does not mean the same for the world. While we began many technologies, the rest of the world has largely been the ones to advance them.
Aerozord
05-24-2009, 03:38 PM
Probably alot of it is because these old people grew up when being old in and of itself granted you authority and respect. My grandpa for example believes he is older, therefor more knowledgable, therefor correct and you should always listen to your elders based on that reason.
Atleast thats what he says. Its also possible he only says that because he is older and its just him rationalizing a superiority complex, and if he wasn't the oldest he'd just make up some other reason to justify why you should listen to him
Jagos
05-24-2009, 04:07 PM
I think it's really just a cultural symptom in that we distinguish, say, different european countries, say this man is Irish and this man is British, which are virtually identical while homogenising whole continents such as Africa when they have huge differences in them.
I mean if you are going to call them African-Americans then all white Americans should be European-Americans with no real difference between them.
Like all those countries you liste din your blood are all very very similar to each other.
As the only African American here, I must say that it's rather perplexing that this argument of race continues to proceed posthaste. Forthwith, we are all Americans until further advancements and merits dignify a fair change that allows us to see and agree on a difference other than skin.
Seriously, it's rather hard to find the difference unless you're looking for it. If you talk to someone from Ethiopia, they can tell you just by a name which clan you're a part of. Ask a guy with dark skin about the different people in Chicago. Personally, a stereotype only goes so far before it's broken 20 ways from Sunday. Then you have to acknowledge that someone can be different from what's portrayed. No amount of grouping will change the fact that even within the similarities, someone's going to break the mold.
The problem is that America still controls the world's manufacturing and economy so wherever you develop a new product it'll get shut down.
It's the same reason that we drive vastly inefficient cars that are basically the same design as they were in the 30s. People have designed vastly superior cars but they got shut down by the car industry who didn't feel like redesigning their entire business and production lines.
Well, GM and Chrysler are hurting from those decisions. More than likely we'll see them make different choices based on the market or go the way of the dodo.
Regarding the suicide jumper?
Aerozord said it best:
Far as he was concerned this was a man just trying to get attention, and if not, well he wanted to jump anyways. Plus think about what this man had seen in his 65 years of life. He probably looks at his complaints and just thinks "What? Thats it?"
All that attention for his 15 minutes of fame? Didn't go as he planned, he's not dead, and he can think up a way to pay that money back.
bluestarultor
05-24-2009, 04:13 PM
All that attention for his 15 minutes of fame? Didn't go as he planned, he's not dead, and he can think up a way to pay that money back.
Or, y'know, be executed. This is China we're talking about. Is suicide punishable by death over there? :P
Seriously, though, I see the guy at least seeing the inside of a cell for holding up traffic. China is pretty strict.
Premmy
05-25-2009, 12:10 AM
As the only African American here,
Oh shit, Lost my title! GET THE GLOVES! somebody call H4x Mage! three-way cage match! There can only be one!!!!!
ANNNNYWAY, as a reasonable, forward thinking young man who posesses the knowledge of the unfathomable complexity of the conditions of an individual's motives for suicide, I feel apalled at this elderly gentleman's actions. As a hyperactive idiot, I feel in awe of this old dude's bad-assery "Fuck it, I'll kill 'em!"
Krylo
05-25-2009, 12:17 AM
So... all white people are pretty much the same, but you can tell the home towns of the yellow, red, and black folk just by glancing at them Smarty?
And you're worried about someone being ageist.
Can I laugh now? Or does that come later when you either try to back peddle or defend this?
BitVyper
05-25-2009, 12:17 AM
As the only African American here
I was unaware that NPF displayed the ethnicities of its posters. Or do you just have a really good intelligence network?
So... all white people are pretty much the same, but you can tell the home towns of the yellow, red, and black folk just by glancing at them
Maybe it's some kind of specialized Shinigami eyes...
Premmy
05-25-2009, 12:27 AM
So... all white people are pretty much the same, but you can tell the home towns of the yellow, red, and black folk just by glancing at them Smarty?
I can tell different types of European people apart. If I'm working against common hair/eye colors I might have to stare dead into your face for a bit but I can usually figure things out, shape of the nose, space of the eyes, all that.
Edit for second page post:
Nobody calls me a Euro-American or German-American
Well, they really should. Anything to dispell the "White is the standard" thing from public consciousness. But then there's also the factor that, due to years of multiple African ethnic groups being forced together in odd conditions, African slaves intermingling with native people's and other groups, And the metric shit-ton of rape babies, your average African-American is best described as someone of african and every other kind of american descent, and is probably very different from someone straight from Nigeria.
Krylo
05-25-2009, 12:31 AM
I can tell different types of eruopean people apart. If I'm working against common hair/eye colors I might have to stred dead in your face for a bit but I can usually figure things, out, shape of the nose, space of the eyes, all that.
That's kinda the point of what I'm saying.
I'm not sure if it's more racist against non-Caucasian people by claiming that he can tell them all apart, and that each zipcode they're in has specific give aways or toward Caucasians because he can't tell the difference between them, when there are many and they are pretty clear if the blood is pure(ish).
Premmy
05-25-2009, 12:35 AM
That's kinda the point of what I'm saying.
I'm not sure if it's more racist against non-Caucasian people by claiming that he can tell them all apart, and that each zipcode they're in has specific give aways or toward Caucasians because he can't tell the difference between them, when there are many and they are pretty clear if the blood is pure(ish).
That last one, definitely, but then he's a weird foreign guy, and we as Americans should be more concerned with that, and picking on him for it....
TheSparrow
05-25-2009, 09:25 PM
You did read the line about "a mental illness" and the guy was going to get his pills, right? I don't think this is a proper scenario to use to launch into a discussion about entitlement and the attitude problems of older people.
In fact, I dare say that the same amount of younguns act on this impluse than the elderly, if not moreso. This is not specific to older age in the slightest.
I mean, look at Road Rage.
And the fact that standing on the bridge for 12 hours threatening to jump is all about impulse and "hey look at me". It is far moreso an attitude of entitlement. To the point where it is "I am not getting the attention I want and need, so I am going to do something that will MAKE everyone pay attention."
Bells
05-27-2009, 11:34 AM
maybe after you guys see the video of the thing in full... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2z8SzyXGIo)
Jagos
05-27-2009, 06:58 PM
I was unaware that NPF displayed the ethnicities of its posters. Or do you just have a really good intelligence network?
We are always watching...
But the bug in your system is just routine. No biggie.
Oh shit, Lost my title! GET THE GLOVES! somebody call H4x Mage three-way cage match! There can only be one!!!!!
I'm the heavyweight champ, son. I'm the only one!
Kyanbu The Legend
05-27-2009, 07:27 PM
As the only African American here,
Now I wouldn't say your the only african american here. I'm african american as well.
Premmy
05-27-2009, 10:17 PM
Oh shit, Kyanbu found his quarter!
A NEW CHALLENGER EMERGES!
what will happen? will the young up-and-comer dethrone the "Heavyweight champ"? will Prem throw his hat into the ring?
find out all this and more on the next episode of
Negroes Online!
Jagos
05-28-2009, 12:50 AM
RAP BATTLE! (http://www.teamspecialolympics.com/comic.php?sec=archive&auth=Andrew&cid=aids/00000.jpg)
Premmy
05-28-2009, 01:15 AM
The story of a white guy triumphing over a dude with a kick-ass afro and trench coat does'nt help your case,
Point: Kyanbu
I'm staying out because I drink Pepsi and/or Coca Cola and piss out this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afri_Cola)
Jagos
05-28-2009, 08:43 PM
See, I was thinking we could rap battle using rhymes and words but then I got to verse 12 and was like yeah... no.
Now we can just stand around and beat box all day.
Premmy
05-30-2009, 01:48 AM
Hmmmmm refusing to engage in or respond to pointless, silly instigation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqsDRQJesMI)
*tsk tsk* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdX30kZKboQ)
the both of you are having points deducted for that
Jagos
05-30-2009, 01:56 AM
No matter how many times I look at that, it's still funny.
Premmy
05-30-2009, 02:04 AM
It should, seeing as how you're now officially the third whitest guy on these forums
Lady Cygnet
05-31-2009, 07:25 PM
Back on the original topic, for some reason, I keep on picturing Uncle from Jackie Chan Adventures as Lai.
"One more thing!"
"What, old-timer?"
"Get moving! Other people have places to be." *SHOVE!*
Loyal
05-31-2009, 11:18 PM
It should, seeing as how you're now officially the third whitest guy on these forumsAnd first and second?
bluestarultor
05-31-2009, 11:31 PM
And first and second?
I'm probably one of them. XD
Premmy
05-31-2009, 11:46 PM
Back on the original topic, for some reason, I keep on picturing Uncle from Jackie Chan Adventures as Lai.
"One more thing!"
"What, old-timer?"
"Get moving! Other people have places to be." *SHOVE!*
I can't get out of my head now, I almost had an asthma attack laughing so hard, and I don't even have asthma
And first and second?
oh please, I'm not telling you guys.
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