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Mirai Gen
05-31-2009, 10:16 PM
Why not? Figure its about that time, and besides, I just got an 8-gig memory stick for my custom firmware PSP my Playstation back from storage and I felt like going retro for a bit.
Symphony of the Night is amazing, Marvel vs Capcom 1 was totally awesome, and Tenchu Stealth Assassins is the only Tenchu game worth owning.
Your turn!
greed
05-31-2009, 10:33 PM
Monster Rancher 2, don't think I've blown more time on any other game. Damn that is addictive and hard and awesome. Gotta love Golems and Dullahans. So under appreciated.
Other than that my PSX collection is pretty basic, FFs 7,8 and 9, and MGS.
TheSparrow
05-31-2009, 10:42 PM
Hrm....what PSX games do I still play... FFTactics (well not anymore now that I have the PSP version) Blood Omen and Soul Reaver, Tenchu, The first Syphon Filter was fun (though the two new PSP games are better) and the Oddworld games were a blast. Oh and I replayed FFIX about 4 months ago.
Lost in Time
05-31-2009, 11:22 PM
Megaman X4! But of course you already knew that.
Nikose Tyris
05-31-2009, 11:25 PM
a lot of the good PS1 shit is going to get released on PSN this year and I'm so hyped you don't even know.
FINAL FANTASY SEVEN BOYS.
Soul Reaver, Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill. Some of the best games/series of all time.
Regulus Tera
06-01-2009, 12:47 AM
For what's worth, the ESRB just rated Final Fantasy VII for the PSN Store. That would be great, since I never finished that title.
That said, FFT > FFIX > FFVII & FFVIII.
Mirai Gen
06-01-2009, 01:07 AM
Soul Reaver
You know I honestly can't decide if I want another Soul Reaver game because it would be fucking rad, or if the series conclusion was awesome enough that I don't want them to fuck up the storyline for a cheap buck.
I must meditate on this.
BitVyper
06-01-2009, 01:21 AM
Tenchu Stealth Assassins is the only Tenchu game worth owning.
I like Tenchu 2 for the level editor. My friend and I used to get really into it and make levels for each other.
You know I honestly can't decide if I want another Soul Reaver game because it would be fucking rad, or if the series conclusion was awesome enough that I don't want them to fuck up the storyline for a cheap buck.
The Elder God's voice actor is dead, I believe. It'd never be the same without him. They were talking about making one focused on Turel for awhile though.
Julford Hajime
06-01-2009, 01:42 AM
Goddammit you've picked my favorite system of all time (Screw you SNES, I love ya, but PSX loves me more). Let me just go through the games I've clocked more than 100-150 hours on:
Final Fantasy 7 - Yeah, this one's a gimme. I was kinda on and off RPGs before this game, but if nothing else, FF7 got me hooked on RPGs. Don't know if it's still any good, but I mean, c'mon. It's like a rite of passage to say that you've played this thing. Play it and quit before the end of the first disk, just say you've played it.
Final Fantasy 9 - A lot of the 'hardcore' fans give this game crap, but hey, it's got a main character that makes me giggle. I have memory cards dedicated to specific sequences in this game, including the one sequence where Zidane goes all Squall on us until Love Interest Chick shows up, heals him from his imminent death, and more or less says "Bitch, stop being stupid or I'll cut you."
Final Fantasy Tactics - I absolutely LOVE basic multiplication, and this game is nothing but fourth grade math with tiny little avatars that swing swords and fling slightly-more-complicated-to-predict-damage spells around. There's even a Calculator, which breaks the game so hardcore it's not even funny. The storyline was fun because you played the person who never went down in history, and the game makes a point of telling you this before you even get to name the main character. Honestly I've probably spent more time on this one game than any other 2 games combined, ever, because if nothing else the team combinations are more fun to manage than playing the game itself is. Just be warned that the learning curve is a bitch and you WILL die in one of the first five fights; if Sweegy doesn't get you, Dortor will.
Monster Rancher 2 - A game that takes advantage of the plethoras of CDs most houses had/have by creating monsters you could use to fight each other until something broke on one of them; usually their rib from my boxing Hare punching them at the speed of sound. Screw your Golems and Dullahans, Hares are where it's at.
Digimon World 1 - It's like Pokémon if you only ever had one mon at a time, that mon learned moves the Blue Mage way (ie Get hit with it until it makes sense), dying was more than an inconvenience, and fighting battles was less practical for your stats than abusing the hell outta the training equipment. Also, Digimon poop and depending on whether you let them use the toilet enough will affect how they digivolve. IT WAS AWESOME. Too bad World 2 and 3 both went away from this, because I seriously had more fun with this game than anything Pokémon ever made, and that's saying a LOT.
Digimon Digital Card Battle - Fairly basic card game with a rediculously cheap AI that makes it just frustrating enough to be a challenge without being so over the top difficult that you don't want to play... At least for the first half or so. After that, you have access to cards that break the game so hardcore it isn't funny (Okay, it kind of is. TAKE THAT GARURUMON! Second boss, and you're the toughest repeatable fight in the game! How's it feel now?), and I seriously find myself limiting my game-breaker cards so that it feels like there's a challenge left. Probably a personal preference, but hey; maybe you like Digimon and/or TCGs as much as I do.
Wild ARMs 1 and 2 - Okay, I'll be honest, I've never beaten either of these games. The only chances I ever got to play them were rentals, and while I loved them, other games had higher priority on the rental scale (See below). Still, a lot of fun to play, if you like RPGs.
Star Ocean: The Second Story - Lots of fun, with two main storylines right from the get-go. While both give basically the same story as the two end up traveling together from the beginning all the way to the end, you see different scenes from new perspectives on the second playthrough, not to mention you can recruit different characters. At LEAST two playthroughs are needed to see all the characters, it might be three, but I don't remember >.> Still, with a bonus dungeon that is BALLS HARD compared to the final dungeon, a BALLS HARDER bonus boss at the end of that dungeon who gives you a item to summon the suped-up version of itself, and then there's the 'Limiter Removal' for the final boss, who can literally kill the party before you have a chance to open the menu to spam the "DON'T DIE" button (ie the cure spells) that makes the bonus version of the bonus boss look like a wimp, and you've got a game that DARES you to be more awesome than possible. All in all one of my favorite RPGs, though I can't say the same for the prequel or sequels >.>
Suikoden 2 - It gives you a villain you can thoroughly enjoy hating who gives you the single-most awesome boss fight in an entire series of games (His fight is up there with my favorite moments in videogames ever), characters that while shallow DO have something resembling backstories (Except the joke characters like the sea monster family or the fly9ing squirrels) and are generally fun to use, and a plot that isn't so much "LOL I SHALL SAVE THE WORLD BECAUSE I HAVE TO" and more "I'm saving this country because my homeland has become disgraceful and I'll fix it through making this other country overthrow the current regime." Plus, you get recurring enemies with motivations that are more than "HUR HUR YOU IZ ENEMY" and more along the lines of "I fight for the honor of my country, and I will NOT back down, regardless of the path it's taken," which I've always been a sucker for. All in all, a very fun RPG that has a dedicated fanbase for a reason.
Harvest Moon: Back to Nature - If you've played one Harvest Moon, you've played them all, but if you haven't played a Harvest Moon yet, here's my favorite. It's a farming sim with a very, VERY minor dating sim mechanic thrown in (Seriously, all you do is pick up weeds and flowers growing up in the mountains, bring them to the pretty girl that strikes your fancy, and repeat until she's completely in love with you). Still, it's a lot of repetitive fun, if you can get behind that kind of thing. Till the fields, water the crops, feed the chickens and cows, cut down the ever-present weed pandemic, and then go to the local mine where times stops while you're inside and dig up all the valuables you can find, find time in the schedule to pick flowers for girl in town. Rinse, lather, repeat. The simplicity is its' charm; it makes you think you're accomplishing something, when in fact you're just doing the same damn thing every day.
Mike McC
06-01-2009, 02:14 AM
Probably the best game that Square released for the Playstation was Legend of Mana. The open-endedness and the very robust item/golem creation systems enhanced a solid action-rpg. Plus, deciding where the different lands went, essentially creating your own world was fun too. Severely underrated.
You know I honestly can't decide if I want another Soul Reaver game because it would be fucking rad, or if the series conclusion was awesome enough that I don't want them to fuck up the storyline for a cheap buck.
They could do a remake. Imagine how awesome it'd look/be.
Jagos
06-01-2009, 06:40 AM
How can we have a retro game without Xenogears or Valkyrie Profile?
I mean Xenogears was great (until Disc 2 and after when they were rushed) and Valkyrie Profile is so damn rare it's impossible to play without playing the remake.
EVILNess
06-01-2009, 06:57 AM
How can we have a retro game without Xenogears or Valkyrie Profile?
I mean Xenogears was great (until Disc 2 and after when they were rushed) and Valkyrie Profile is so damn rare it's impossible to play without playing the remake.
Hey I own both of those!
Wild Arms 1 and 2 and Suikoden 1 and 2 are literal gems of games. Also can't forget literally every game released by Working Designs. (GO, GO, LUNAR AND ARC THE LAD!!!!) Atlus, while not as awesome as they were in the in the PS2 era heyday, still had some good games, Revelations: Persona, Persona 2, and Vanguard Bandits were all great.
Not to mention Square made some of of its best non-Final Fantasy Games ever during this period: Brave Fencer Musashi, Front Mission 3, Parasite Eve 1 and 2, Einhander, Vagrant Story, and SaGa Frontier.
Capcom was also on the ball with Breath of Fire 3 and 4, Resident Evil 1-3, and both Mega-Man Legends.
Oh yea, and Tales of Destiny.
TheSparrow
06-01-2009, 09:43 AM
You know I honestly can't decide if I want another Soul Reaver game because it would be fucking rad, or if the series conclusion was awesome enough that I don't want them to fuck up the storyline for a cheap buck.
I must meditate on this.
Blood Omen 2 anyone?
Mirai Gen
06-01-2009, 10:09 AM
Lunar and Arc were pretty great.
Valkyrie Profile
There we go, that's a game I need to put on this thing.
EDIT: FUCK FUCK FUCK IT WON'T WORK FUCK
Azisien
06-01-2009, 11:28 AM
There was this Spiderman game, it may have been the only one on the PSX, that I liked. Linear, and no "ground" to explore, sure, and IGN canned it if I remember right, but I dunno, I thought it was fun.
However, I think a lot of the games I thought were fun back then, have since been overrided by better engines, better gameplay, or just better everything. What survives are JRPGs, the turtles of video game evolution! And since 95% of this thread is that, I concur. Also, Back to Nature WAS awesome.
That said, FFT > FFIX > FFVII & FFVIII
You are a massive douche trying to bait us, but we are stronger!
Nah, I mean, it's pretty true.
IX and FFT are close though.
Drownball-Champ
06-01-2009, 11:46 AM
Ahh, the PSX third best system of all time. Only beaten out by the PS2 and PSP. So many games I loved and still love.
Monster Rancher 2 (can't remember what I normally raise. always had a soft spot for Hares, but I know thats not what I used.)
Wild ARMs 1 & 2
Digimon World 1/2/3
Digimon: Digital Card Battle
Star Ocean 2
Final Fantasy 8/9
Azisien
06-01-2009, 11:59 AM
Nah, I mean, it's pretty true.
IX and FFT are close though.
It's not the most outrageous thing I've heard on these forums, true. But I could launch into an argument right now on why I'd switch that around a bunch, for my own reasons. But you have your own. So suck it, it's baiting and annoying.
Like hey Mirai yeah Madden NFL 1997 is awesome, because you can make fire spurt out of your sprinters' feet if they're fast enough! Oh and Nintendo sucks and FFVI was the worst of the entire series save for Mystic Quest! Y'know?
greed
06-01-2009, 12:07 PM
Forgot Back to Nature, that was awesome, my sister has it now though.
It's not the most outrageous thing I've heard on these forums, true. But I could launch into an argument right now on why I'd switch that around a bunch, for my own reasons. But you have your own. So suck it, it's baiting and annoying.
Like hey Mirai yeah Madden NFL 1997 is awesome, because you can make fire spurt out of your sprinters' feet if they're fast enough! Oh and Nintendo sucks and FFVI was the worst of the entire series save for Mystic Quest! Y'know?
Fair enough. Moving on... There was this SRGP I played when I was a youngin' called Eternal Eyes or some such. I liked it pretty good back then, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to make more monsters, which was a hell of a liability.
bluestarultor
06-01-2009, 02:54 PM
Fair enough. Moving on... There was this SRGP I played when I was a youngin' called Eternal Eyes or some such. I liked it pretty good back then, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to make more monsters, which was a hell of a liability.
I have that game and it's INCREDIBLY frustrating, especially when you make a new game, because you keep your level and lose all your stats. Aside from that, the enemy AI is frustratingly competent to the point of being cheap, and if you lose one of your own monsters, you have to make a brand new one that always ends up weak as shit, which can make later levels prohibitively hard as the enemy keeps killing your party until you run out of jewels. THEN you don't get nearly enough jewels to start with, so you generally end up with a kitten-weak party even to begin with, and the evolution system often leaves you with a monster worse than what you started with.
It's overall a very thrown-together product that I can only recommend if you like being annoyed and frustrated.
DarkDrgon
06-01-2009, 03:38 PM
when I was a kid, this game unholy war was one of my favorites. i recently found it again, and upon replaying it is a below average strategy game with a decent gimmick. I hate when that happens
Julford Hajime
06-01-2009, 04:31 PM
I remember Unholy War. It was a rental that I found to be rediculously fun, but as it wasn't a straight-up RPG (And I discovered Star Ocean the week after), it was a one-time rental that always nags at my head to be included in lists.
Oh and Nintendo sucks and FFVI was the worst of the entire series save for Mystic Quest! Y'know?
Hey now, Mystic Quest was awesome. It actually had dangerous monsters :P
Ryong
06-01-2009, 05:34 PM
Legend of Dragoon. Legend of Legaia. Goddamnit, we need remakes.
krogothwolf
06-01-2009, 05:35 PM
Legend of Dragoon. Legend of Legaia. Goddamnit, we need remakes.
Just need them to release it on the PSN network for 10bucks or so like they Did Suikoden 1.
bluestarultor
06-01-2009, 07:00 PM
Legend of Dragoon. Legend of Legaia. Goddamnit, we need remakes.
I have both. I'd say yes for the first, only it really needs a SEQUEL more than a remake. I know the story got resolved, but it's the systems that really made that game, and for all I care, they could come up with a totally new cast, or better yet, go all the way into the past and have you play out the Dragon Campaign with Zieg and Rose and everyone. I'd buy the HELL out of that.
Jagos
06-01-2009, 07:15 PM
There we go, that's a game I need to put on this thing.
EDIT: FUCK FUCK FUCK IT WON'T WORK FUCK
Believe me... Get the PSP version. Less headache. And save the PSX version as a collector's item.
Lost in Time
06-01-2009, 07:32 PM
I was just reminded by watching the Ubisoft press conference. Get Rayman, it was a fun 2d platformer back in the day. Though I only played the first one.
The Argent Lord
06-01-2009, 08:33 PM
I have both. I'd say yes for the first, only it really needs a SEQUEL more than a remake. I know the story got resolved, but it's the systems that really made that game, and for all I care, they could come up with a totally new cast, or better yet, go all the way into the past and have you play out the Dragon Campaign with Zieg and Rose and everyone. I'd buy the HELL out of that.
This. This was the first real RPG (read: didn't involve training monsters of some sort) that I ever played. I got all the way up to the last boss and then lost the memory card. I've yet to actually find the time to play my way through all 4 discs again, but I remember it being really epic.
Nique
06-01-2009, 08:46 PM
Jet Moto!
Mirai Gen
06-01-2009, 11:54 PM
Believe me... Get the PSP version. Less headache. And save the PSX version as a collector's item.
Is it a port?
Because I will totally get a port.
Jagos
06-02-2009, 12:43 AM
Port but extra cutscenes. Go, go go!
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