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Dachimotsu
06-16-2009, 05:51 PM
Fighter Lives.
If he doesn't live, it will cause a time paradox. Proof of this claim? Here:
http://www.nuklearpower.com/2003/06/28/episode-301-oops/
http://www.nuklearpower.com/2003/07/01/episode-302-that-was-a-mistake/
Fighter needs to live so that he may master Sword-Chuckery, write his newfound knowledge into a document, and have it accidentally sent back in time to his younger self.
Your thoughts?
OverNineThousand89
06-16-2009, 05:55 PM
Fighter Lives.
If he doesn't live, it will cause a time paradox. Proof of this claim? Here:
http://www.nuklearpower.com/2003/06/28/episode-301-oops/
http://www.nuklearpower.com/2003/07/01/episode-302-that-was-a-mistake/
Fighter needs to live so that he may master Sword-Chuckery, write his newfound knowledge into a document, and have it accidentally sent back in time to his younger self.
Your thoughts?
Uh... he didn't send it back in time. It was an artifact from happenings that never occurred thanks to Sarda jackassing with continuity that the Chronocops forgot to get rid of when they fixed everything.
Dachimotsu
06-16-2009, 05:59 PM
Are you suggesting that Sarda was the one who made the document? If not, I demand to know your theory as to who actually wrote it, or HOW it came into existence in the first place.
EDIT: Also...
he didn't send it back in time
Well, duh. It was an accident, as I already stated. Sarda (or possibly the chronocops) accidentally sent in back in time. Therefore, Fighter couldn't have intentionally sent it, even if he did have the power to do so. That part was painfully obvious. Also, why does it seem like people are ALWAYS misreading my posts?
Dracorion
06-16-2009, 07:15 PM
Fighter wrote it. And it wasn't sent back in time by anyone. The Chronocops forgot to erase it from existence. Fighter wrote it during the trip to Matoya's Cave from Elfland.
timemonkey
06-16-2009, 07:17 PM
Are you suggesting that Sarda was the one who made the document? If not, I demand to know your theory as to who actually wrote it, or HOW it came into existence in the first place.
EDIT: Also...
Well, duh. It was an accident, as I already stated. Sarda (or possibly the chronocops) accidentally sent in back in time. Therefore, Fighter couldn't have intentionally sent it, even if he did have the power to do so. That part was painfully obvious. Also, why does it seem like people are ALWAYS misreading my posts?
No, Fighter wrote it during the time that was removed by the timecops due to Sarda screwing with things, and they just forgot to get rid of it when they set things back. No time travel actually involved.
Shadow Bunny
06-16-2009, 07:35 PM
The fighter who wrote it no longer exists, due to the chrono cops.
Grognor
06-16-2009, 07:39 PM
At this point, it's actually more likely that Fighter dies. Sarda called him a casualty, and he also stated that Fighter never opens his super-awesome hero school.
Note, please, that I still acknowledge the possibility of his living.
Note, please, that I still acknowledge the possibility of his living.
I don't think you need to try and be right so much.
Shadow Bunny
06-16-2009, 09:39 PM
Why do you care so much about whether someone on the internet thinks you called something or not?
Grognor
06-16-2009, 09:43 PM
Gee, I was just trying to avoid the inevitable post going something like this:
but Fighter could still live! i can't baleev you think Fighter gon dieSo pardon me for trying to save space.
Death by Stabbing
06-16-2009, 10:31 PM
Are you suggesting that Sarda was the one who made the document? If not, I demand to know your theory as to who actually wrote it, or HOW it came into existence in the first place.
EDIT: Also...
Well, duh. It was an accident, as I already stated. Sarda (or possibly the chronocops) accidentally sent in back in time. Therefore, Fighter couldn't have intentionally sent it, even if he did have the power to do so. That part was painfully obvious. Also, why does it seem like people are ALWAYS misreading my posts?
1. It has nothing to do with time forget about time travel
2. It was in his pocket because that note is the last vestige of the other time line's Fighter...which the time cops or whatever they're called forgot to get rid of...so yeah that part was a mistake
3. you've made 3 posts and yet you complain bitterly about people misreading them...not really the way to get positive attention around here...just saying
The Wizard Who Did It
06-17-2009, 01:26 AM
Gee, I was just trying to avoid the inevitable post going something like this:
So pardon me for trying to save space.
And now you have these inevitable posts. The internet is a fun place!:D
Your thoughts?
Comedy trumps continuity.
Dachimotsu
06-18-2009, 07:17 AM
Comedy trumps continuity.
Right. Of course. How foolish of me.
I understand my mistakes now. It's just that... why were the deities assigned to fixing everything called "Chronocops" if the situation had nothing to do with time?
Or is the answer in that quote?
Dracorion
06-18-2009, 10:08 AM
It had to do with time in that history/the timeline was rewritten. But there wasn't any time travel involved.
Harrow
06-18-2009, 11:21 AM
of course time travel was involved. Sarda ate his dinner, then made it, thus fufulling having something to eat. But, because Sarda is Brians projection of how much he's an ass into this comic, instead of just magically making dinner, he stole it from the future, which apparently caused some sort of back-lash that almost destroyed continuity so the timecops erased most of what happened during several months, missing Fighters sword-chuck notes, and seemingly the distance the LW's had traveled. And then Sarda made dinner, which he couldn't eat because it was stolen into the past.
Dracorion
06-18-2009, 12:03 PM
Now that's just insane. Stop being insane, you.
Eruco
06-18-2009, 02:26 PM
A wizard did it.
I'm just wondering why this hasn't been closed yet, Considering it is a prediction and they're all supposed to go in the one thread.
/Not back seat modding just curious
//Bringing the slashies from fark
///Slashies!
It's pretty clearly defined in the comic.
It doesn't state Time Travel, does it?
The real question you should all be asking is this:
If there is a division of Chrono-cops that police the time stream that can override Sarda then just how stable is the timeline and what does that say about how right Sarda thinks he is about it?
Dracorion
06-18-2009, 04:12 PM
He thinks he could mess with the timeline because he was always going to mess with the timeline. Duh.
But it means the Light Warriors or the Dark Warriors might get out of this yet.
Wareya
06-18-2009, 08:15 PM
It's clearly not the same fighter because everything is grammatically correct.
...No, just kidding, but I HAD to point it out.
Dachimotsu
06-18-2009, 08:59 PM
^That's another reason why I thought it was a future Fighter. But then again, what the other guys are saying is ALSO strictly theoretical, and no actual proof exists for either.
BitVyper
06-18-2009, 09:21 PM
The real question you should all be asking is this:
If there is a division of Chrono-cops that police the time stream that can override Sarda then just how stable is the timeline and what does that say about how right Sarda thinks he is about it?
They didn't Override Sarda. They just fixed the damage and he changed his mind.
I should add that the wizard who fucked up time there, while using a similar sprite (I seem to recall a minor difference) was never actually stated to be Sarda.
what the other guys are saying is ALSO strictly theoretical, and no actual proof exists for either.
What everyone else is saying is what actually happened in the comic.
<Exposition about the Light Warriors' journey>
"Unfortunately, a wizard in a far off land had been conducting causality experiments so he could develop a spell to eat his dinner without having to first prepare it. The resultant chronoplastic backlash rewrote most recent history. As for the Light Warriors..."
"Does something seem... I don't know, different to you guys?"
"Yeah. But it also feels correct somehow. Like a horrible mistake was corrected in an instant."
<Next comic>
"Elsewhen, at Chronocops Headquarters...."
"Did you fix everything?"
"Yeah, pretty much. I'm sure whatever I may have missed was insignificant"
<immediate cut to Fighter finding his Swordchuck notes>
We see in the following comics that the Light Warriors have no idea how they got where they are.
The Light Warriors had a big heroic journey, but a wizard whose sprite and character differ from Sarda in several ways was experimenting with causality and fucked shit up. Chronocops fixed the mess, presumably by editing out that whole little section of time in Monks of History fashion. Basically, they changed history to say "and a few boring months passed uneventfully," or something similar based on observational evidence. In their mop up of the details, they missed an insignificant detail, which we were shown through juxtaposition, to be Fighter's notes.
There was no time travel involved on the part of the Light Warriors. Their history for those weeks/months/years/whatever were just surgically removed. The only time travellers in this scenario are the Chronocops themselves, and the wizard's dinner.
Molotovich
06-18-2009, 09:28 PM
They didn't Override Sarda. They just fixed the damage and he changed his mind.
I should add that the wizard who fucked up time there, while using a similar sprite (I seem to recall a minor difference) was never actually stated to be Sarda.
But, but, sarda said he IS the Wizard who did it!!!! *Gasp and Alarm!*
BitVyper
06-18-2009, 09:41 PM
But, but, sarda said he IS the Wizard who did it!!!! *Gasp and Alarm!*
Looking at the comics again, short of Kurosen actually coming in here and saying "that was Sarda," no way in hell was that Sarda. First of all, his sprite is different. Sarda has literally had the same sprite since the dawn of time. Secondly; Sarda doesn't need to invent a spell to eat his dinner before it's cooked. He just does it. Thirdly; this wizard's character is just plain different. Sarda doesn't change his mind. He's also pretty much bored of the universe, and pretty bitter/jaded in general. This guy just seemed like your average wizard. Finally; Sarda doesn't screw up (except that one time...).
I think Brian just wanted a generic high level wizard-looking guy. Then parts of the same sprite were used for Sarda.
Edit: Now if it weren't entirely inconsequential to the plot, I could buy it being Sarda prior to going back to the dawn of time doing experiments building up to that, but his moustache wasn't white anyway.
Edit: One thing that's kind of interesting about the whole scenario is that it does kind of fly in the face of the actual Sarda's ideas of a deterministic universe. However, I think it's just comedy trumping drama in this case.
Nuklear Waste
06-18-2009, 10:23 PM
Sorry to disappoint:
Not from the "beginning", but extremely early. Possibly shortly after the very first Sarda appearance when he ruined the "good" Light Warriors to make a sammich.
From http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost.php?p=932553&postcount=123
That was Sarda. Also: Having a staff (that we see later on (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2007/06/02/episode-853-blown-away/)) is a major difference? (EDIT: And I suppose there's that white spot on his robe.)
EDIT2: Apparently no one said major difference, but whatever.
Wareya
06-18-2009, 10:32 PM
The Chrono Cops erased the white on his cloak and his staff from existence. >_>
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