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Lithp
09-17-2010, 12:02 AM
Why would he? Doesn't he thinks being a Quincy is a stupid thing that is also dumb because it doesn't make you any money?

There's no way he wasn't affected by it at all, especially after his own father became a victim of it. Additionally, Uryu implied that he was full of shit. "...Then why did you design this hospital with this room & the Quincy Cross," or something like that. Lastly, Tite Kubo seems to have a thing for characters hiding treacherous motivations.

Of course, I only see it as a plausible possibility, not a definite probability. There's really nothing to say that Aizen will even die here. Putting all you have into an attack seems like it's just asking for it to not work.

Aerozord
09-17-2010, 01:15 AM
There's no way he wasn't affected by it at all, especially after his own father became a victim of it. Additionally, Uryu implied that he was full of shit. "...Then why did you design this hospital with this room & the Quincy Cross," or something like that.

because japanese are very tradition and family orientated and there is a huge differance between "no I want to be a doctor instead" and "I'll destroy ancient family heirlooms" also no one ever said he wasn't trained to be a quincy. Clearly just didn't like it

Kim
09-17-2010, 01:32 AM
This is the guy who knowingly let his son go help the shinigami, and is implied to be friends with a shinigami, too. There's really no established reason he's suddenly go out for revenge or what-have-you.

Lithp
09-17-2010, 01:49 AM
Aerozord: I'm really not sure what any of that has to do with what I said, honestly.

NonCon: Which would mean that he would have to be hiding some big scheme if he was a villain. You're not telling me anything I don't know. I just said it's conceivable.

Kim
09-17-2010, 02:09 AM
By that logic, anyone could conceivably be the villain. Anyone could be "hiding some big scheme."

Besides, I just don't buy Ishida's dad becoming a bad guy unless it's so he can turn out to be a SECRET GOOD GUY later.

Lithp
09-17-2010, 03:05 AM
Ryuuken seems like a potential villain because he acts like a dick who's hiding something.

Ryuuken seems like an unlikely villain because he acts like he has a good relationship with Isshin.

Like I said, if Aizen's getting replaced, I'm banking on it having something to do with the King of Soul Society finding out about this nonsense & deciding to eliminate Ichigo &/or the remaining Gotei 13, for whatever reason.

Kim
09-17-2010, 04:46 AM
Ryuuken seems like a potential villain because he acts like a dick who's hiding something.

This is actually pretty much why he won't be the villain unless he's a villain who turns out to be a SECRET GOOD GUY later.

Aerozord
09-17-2010, 11:22 AM
Ryuuken seems like a potential villain because he acts like a dick who's hiding something.

http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy221/sayhallu/Avatars/Gin_Avatar002.jpg

01d55
09-17-2010, 04:01 PM
From Ishida's conversation with his grandfather, it's obvious that Ryuuken has no interest in being a Quincy because it doesn't help him take care of his son, whereas running a hospital A. makes him enough money to take care of his son B. ensures that his son gets prompt medical attention if he gets himself hurt being reckless. C. Does not involve himself and his whole family risking their lives fighting soul-eating monsters when there's already a bunch of ghosts doing that who don't appreciate the help.

Honestly this is pretty obvious without grandad giving us all a big obvious hint.

Fifthfiend
09-17-2010, 04:16 PM
This is actually pretty much why he won't be the villain unless he's a villain who turns out to be a SECRET GOOD GUY later.

This is exactly why he will be the next villain.

Him or DA KING.

From Ishida's conversation with his grandfather, it's obvious that Ryuuken has no interest in being a Quincy because it doesn't help him take care of his son, whereas running a hospital A. makes him enough money to take care of his son B. ensures that his son gets prompt medical attention if he gets himself hurt being reckless. C. Does not involve himself and his whole family risking their lives fighting soul-eating monsters when there's already a bunch of ghosts doing that who don't appreciate the help.

Honestly this is pretty obvious without grandad giving us all a big obvious hint.

Everyone else is paying enough attention to Bleach to know that none of this shit matters for anything.

Lithp
09-17-2010, 04:23 PM
From Ishida's conversation with his grandfather, it's obvious that Ryuuken has no interest in being a Quincy because it doesn't help him take care of his son, whereas running a hospital A. makes him enough money to take care of his son B. ensures that his son gets prompt medical attention if he gets himself hurt being reckless. C. Does not involve himself and his whole family risking their lives fighting soul-eating monsters when there's already a bunch of ghosts doing that who don't appreciate the help.

Honestly this is pretty obvious without grandad giving us all a big obvious hint.

What makes you think no one else remembers this?

Kim
09-17-2010, 04:31 PM
This is exactly why he will be the next villain.

Him or DA KING.

Naw. It'd be stupid, but it isn't Kubo stupid.

Fifthfiend
09-17-2010, 04:40 PM
I figure like there has to be at least an arc of villain who turns out to be a hero before Kubo reveals who the next actually villainous villain is supposed to be.

Kim
09-17-2010, 04:55 PM
Yeah, I just don't think that character will be Ishida's dad. Like, Kubo is probably going to go with a character like Byakuya, because he's so easy to hate. Basically a Snape character where the author thinks the audience will buy he's a villain when he's actually a SECRET GOOD GUY, but it's just so stupidly obvious to everyone involved that he's a good guy. We just don't know Ishida's dad enough for us to hate him to the point where he can be a Snape.

Alternatively, Kubo might opt for a character people actually like, so everyone who lacks a brain can freak out and wonder why so and so betrayed the good guys. For a second, I considered that character being Urahara, but then I remembered that that would be awesome and this is Bleach so it can't happen. More likely is that we'll get one of his high school friends getting powers, or one of the ones who already has powers, and turning against them for a villain arc where they aren't a SECRET GOOD GUY but they're still going to end up on the good guy side at the end of the arc.

This is all after the Yammy arc, of course.

Fifthfiend
09-17-2010, 05:04 PM
Yeah, I just don't think that character will be Ishida's dad. Like, Kubo is probably going to go with a character... because he's so easy to hate.

Not helping your argument.

Lithp
09-17-2010, 05:07 PM
More likely

That is certainly an interesting choice of words.

Ryuuken would make more of a Snape than anyone. Snape's whole thing, besides being easy to hate, was that there were things pointing to him being honestly good & secretly evil. For good, Ryuuken has indicators that he wants a profession that will help him raise his son, he runs a hospital, he has a good relationship with Isshin, & he helped Uryu get his powers back. There aren't as many examples of his questionable morality, but I do recall him shooting his son in the chest without telling him what he was up to, in a move that would have killed him if Ryuuken was the slightest bit off. And...frankly, Ryuuken acts like kind of a dick already. He doesn't need to do an awful lot to make himself easier to hate.

Kim
09-17-2010, 05:08 PM
Not helping your argument.

Yeah, but we know that Ishida's dad is supposedly nice under his jackass exterior. Friends with Ishin, helped his son get his powers back, and let his son go help the Shinigami even after he told him not to. Byakuya, in contrast, just has a sister complex.

Fifthfiend
09-17-2010, 05:12 PM
I'm just saying, he did that with Byakuya already; it was literally the introduction of Byakuya.

If he's gonna do it again with anybody, it's gonna be with someone who isn't Byakuya.

He just gotta go like "Oh, I gave you your powers back FOR EVEIL" then later "Well no actually it was GOOD EVIL".

Wigmund
09-17-2010, 05:25 PM
You're all looking at the wrong person for the next villain.

It's obviously Chad.

Fifthfiend
09-17-2010, 05:28 PM
You're all looking at the wrong person for the next villain.

It's obviously Chad.

...

I'm going to eat your heart.

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Kim
09-17-2010, 05:32 PM
That's definitely one thing I was considering when I mentioned one of Ichigo's high school friends might go evil. You see, because that is Kubo bad.

Lithp
09-17-2010, 05:37 PM
Only, you know, it's completely unlike anything that's happened so far.

Kyanbu The Legend
09-17-2010, 05:41 PM
Of course, Chad. He's so ticked that he keeps getting dropped every time a competent villain appears., that he seeks out to improve his Hollow powers which ends up turning him evil.

this could be temporary or permanent and since it's a shonen, the fights would be "I know you're in there somewhere" fights.

Lithp
09-17-2010, 05:48 PM
Chad should just become a full-time villain. He'd be good at it.

Sithdarth
09-17-2010, 06:12 PM
You know what is hilarious. In the last anime filler arc they totally played the pretending to be evil but secretly good angle with Byakuya for a second time. If Kubo did it again in the magna it would be so blatantly ridiculous when it came around in the anime that if they didn't hang a lampshade on it I might have to stop watching.

Kim
09-17-2010, 06:18 PM
Didn't Kubo write that filler arc, too?

Fifthfiend
09-17-2010, 07:22 PM
Of course, Chad. He's so ticked that he keeps getting dropped every time a competent villain appears., that he seeks out to improve his Hollow powers which ends up turning him evil.

Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff Chad is the Sasuke

God dammit CHRIST

Kim
09-17-2010, 07:34 PM
Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff Chad is the Sasuke

God dammit CHRIST

And yet it's still a better fate than being the Chad of Bleach.

Wigmund
09-17-2010, 07:36 PM
And what would be great, is if Chad becomes the BBEG - he'd become competent. We'd actually get to see his powers being used and not be blown off by whoever he's attacking.

They'd be all "Woah, this guy gots the powers. Why we not see the powers before?!? Uuaaghh!"

Kyanbu The Legend
09-21-2010, 10:28 PM
Note that this has not been confirmed true yet.

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Apparently this is translated into...

aizen says something along the lines of: impossible against a mere human ugyaaaaaaa!
ichigo says i'll be parting with shinigami powers its over and says thanks to zangetsu
(in desperation?)as the final getsuga is about to fade, aizen uses bankai, power is reversing time
scene changes to byakuya and kenpachi with a defeated yami on the ground
rangiku holding gin and screaming
scene then completely changes (assuming time reverse) yami is up and fighting again
ichigo returns to his form before the training, (looking astonished?)
aizen returns to long hair form
ichigo mentions no one can defeat aizen now
aizen laughs (fuhahaha) just need to create the key now, but before that die kurosaki
aizen swinging sword at ichigo's (head?), gin intervenes and stops the sword
cap'tn i thought u would use bankai
last page is two pages merged into 1

last line: overthrow fate in 1 hit

Fuck you Kubo. Fuck you too Aizen. Though Gin might kill him... no... damn.

Kim
09-21-2010, 10:31 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH .

Kyanbu The Legend
09-21-2010, 10:32 PM
Really hoping it's fake.

Fifthfiend
09-21-2010, 10:47 PM
That's so perfectly retarded.

It's... it's...

It's PURE BLEACH

Steel Shadow
09-21-2010, 10:48 PM
But... But...

I can see him doing it!

Even if it's fake, god damnit, Kubo.

Kyanbu The Legend
09-21-2010, 10:57 PM
What is confirmed is that the Isshin arc is starting in a few weeks (few could mean any number of weeks).

Steel Shadow
09-22-2010, 06:11 PM
H...Huh. I don't know what to think of that.

Ok, so that was a fake spoiler. And conisidering how much worse it could have been, I'm actually ok with this chapter. I mean it may just be me, but that felt like that plan (and I'm assuming that was all a big plan) made sense. I will doubtless be proven wrong next chapter.

Or maybe it's actually Azsien finally using his brain, activating his hypnosis god powers and just running away to recover. That'd be annoying.

EVILNess
09-22-2010, 06:26 PM
So, $20 the MacGuffin device jumps to Ichigo and that is how he gets his powers/obligatory-power-boost in the next arc.

Kyanbu The Legend
09-22-2010, 06:43 PM
And Uarahara saves the day, by sealing up Aizen forever. And it turns out that the Soul King is just an object (or it might actually be a being) that literally hold SS together. If he/it was struck down, it would be the end of the world as we know it.


Not the best but still a well welcomed ending to the "Aizen be god" arc.

Donomni
09-22-2010, 06:47 PM
I'm just straining for some branches here, but considering Aizen is sealed, not dead, he may actually come back for last storyline shenanigans.

If only because Kubo has not revealed his likely-to-be-completely-fucktarded Bankai.

So, $20 the MacGuffin device jumps to Ichigo and that is how he gets his powers/obligatory-power-boost in the next arc.

Eh, either that or hey Orihime might be in the spotlight for more than five seconds.

Fifthfiend
09-22-2010, 06:55 PM
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Note that this has not been confirmed true yet.

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Apparently this is translated into...

aizen says something along the lines of: impossible against a mere human ugyaaaaaaa!
ichigo says i'll be parting with shinigami powers its over and says thanks to zangetsu
(in desperation?)as the final getsuga is about to fade, aizen uses bankai, power is reversing time
scene changes to byakuya and kenpachi with a defeated yami on the ground
rangiku holding gin and screaming
scene then completely changes (assuming time reverse) yami is up and fighting again
ichigo returns to his form before the training, (looking astonished?)
aizen returns to long hair form
ichigo mentions no one can defeat aizen now
aizen laughs (fuhahaha) just need to create the key now, but before that die kurosaki
aizen swinging sword at ichigo's (head?), gin intervenes and stops the sword
cap'tn i thought u would use bankai
last page is two pages merged into 1

last line: overthrow fate in 1 hit

Fuck you Kubo. Fuck you too Aizen. Though Gin might kill him... no... damn.

This would have been so much better.

Kyanbu The Legend
09-22-2010, 06:57 PM
Next Chapter and the one after it seem to start the Isshin Arc. Since it was supposedly confirmed to start within a few weeks.

My guess is next chapter, we get to see what was going on in Hocco Mundo, Orihime shows up and heals up Isshin and co, Isshin wakes up and explains to Ichigo his past (starting the Isshin Arc). Afterwards, time sk- oh that's right we usually don't get any. Ichigo goes on a ten minute retirement refusing to get his powers back and live a normal life. Then new big bad does something horrible and Ichigo changes his mind and decides to try and get his powers back/become a half Arrancer.

Aerozord
09-22-2010, 09:38 PM
anyone else love how ultimately Ichigo's big uber power up did nothing? Sure it was probably needed to pwn Aizen just to make the magic ball realize he's a crappy roommate, but still

On a semi-related note. Anyone else curious if thats how powerful Uryu was when he pwned a captain?

Wigmund
09-22-2010, 10:25 PM
Aizen's gonna be right behind Urahara claiming he had planned for this inevitability and then try something on Hat-and-Clogs who's gonna later explain he too had planned for the planning of the plan the Aizen had planned and had a plan to deal with the plan...

Goddammit I was right!

Aerozord
09-22-2010, 10:33 PM
Personally I liked http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/aerozord/l_4f2c38821864436c9de17dcbeaeed6f5.jpg

Kyanbu The Legend
09-22-2010, 11:58 PM
anyone else love how ultimately Ichigo's big uber power up did nothing? Sure it was probably needed to pwn Aizen just to make the magic ball realize he's a crappy roommate, but still

On a semi-related note. Anyone else curious if thats how powerful Uryu was when he pwned a captain?

In his defense, Aizen had became unkillable. So sealing was more or less the only way.

Lithp
09-23-2010, 11:43 PM
anyone else love how ultimately Ichigo's big uber power up did nothing?

Blowing away almost all of the transformation & destroying his Zanpakuto is "nothing"?

Aerozord
09-24-2010, 12:51 AM
Blowing away almost all of the transformation & destroying his Zanpakuto is "nothing"?

he didn't "Blow it away" he made the macguffin realize Aizen is a proto psycho ex-girlfriend and dumped him

Kyanbu The Legend
09-24-2010, 12:55 AM
That's still something though.

Lithp
09-24-2010, 01:22 AM
he didn't "Blow it away" he made the macguffin realize Aizen is a proto psycho ex-girlfriend and dumped him

By damn near killing him, causing it to consider him an unworthy host.

Locke cole
09-24-2010, 02:19 AM
GOODBYEZEN!

freaking finally...

Arcanum
09-24-2010, 02:35 AM
GOODBYEZEN!

freaking finally...

Woah woah woah woah! Don't count your chickens before they hatch. This is Aizen we're talking about after all, not to mention Kubo. For all we know he's just taking a quick rest, and then after the Isshin arc it will be revealed that there is no new big bad and that it's actually Aizen.. again.

Aerozord
09-24-2010, 11:09 AM
Its his zanpakto which was secretely manipulating everyone

krogothwolf
09-24-2010, 11:26 AM
I can't think of even Kudo continue with the same stupid Big Bad it would stifle his "creativity" and we all know how creative he thinks he is.

CABAL49
09-24-2010, 02:13 PM
I can't think of even Kudo continue with the same stupid Big Bad it would stifle his "creativity" and we all know how creative he thinks he is.

Any other writer would have been unable to keep this story going one hundred chapters ago. The amount of ass-pullery is indeed impressive.

Aerozord
09-24-2010, 02:31 PM
from now on new slang term for ass is "kubo's idea hole"

A Zarkin' Frood
09-24-2010, 02:57 PM
I took the liberty of submitting that to Urban Dictionary.

Kim
09-29-2010, 10:06 PM
Time for some Bleach spoilers!

‘The Silent Story’.

Unohana heals Hiyori; Hirako has a conversation with Unohana. Byakuya and Kenpachi (with Yachiru) return to SS. Back in HM, Yammy lies still with his pet hollow dog. Is he dead? In SS’s Karakura, Karakura’s repairs and recovery are underway, while Mayuri’s subordinates prepare to transition it back.

In the middle of town, Mayuri tells the shinigami taking stock of the situation for transfer that there won’t be Senkaimon for transfer because there’s danger, so they halt. “The margin of error is only 10!”

He screams at his subordinates to ‘Hurry-! You’ll die–!’. “Your naivete is gonna make me puke”, says Mayuri.

"I’m finishing Hiyori’s treatment, but for now she’ll be alright," says Unohana, to Lisa who’s been asking if she could help, “Well, the kidou’s done all that it could, but afterwards it’s up to whether she hasn’t given up her will to live.” Unohana continues, “But I think you know better than me how that goes.”

Nice to see Kubo's already retconning the only good side death we've had. UGH

01d55
09-30-2010, 03:13 AM
Hey, remember when Shinji thought Inoue would be helpful? That'll learn him. :3:

Kim
09-30-2010, 03:09 PM
Chapter is up, so more detailed spoilers are go.

Yami is still alive. FUCK.

Hiyori is still alive. FUCK.

Urahara, the one who finished Aizen off by being all smarty and whatnot, says "You defeated Aizen" to Ichigo. FUCK.

Both wax philosophical on what Aizen really wanted in a post-death attempt at making Aizen pitiable that really just pisses me the fuck off. FUCK.

Donomni
09-30-2010, 03:34 PM
Both wax philosophical on what Aizen really wanted in a post-death attempt at making Aizen pitiable that really just pisses me the fuck off. FUCK.

Why? I mean, seriously, why the hell would Kubo even attempt this? My brain hurts just thinking about it.

A Zarkin' Frood
09-30-2010, 03:39 PM
Hey, I haven't read it yet, but...

Both wax philosophical on what Aizen really wanted in a post-death attempt at making Aizen pitiable that really just pisses me the fuck off. FUCK.
Every Bleach villain/opponent ever.
Well, okay, maybe not. But getting some sob story or something else to make him seem less horrible thrown in at the last second is pretty much what I expected.
Ah, well.

Now's not the time to read Bleach for me. Bleach will be read tomorrow, I don't wanna go to bed with a bad mood. Which is what Bleach usually does to me. Not because the chapter I read was particularly bad, but mostly because I'm still reading...

Locke cole
09-30-2010, 04:09 PM
What makes you think that Yammy is still alive by the end of the chapter?

I can't think of a better "He's dead" montage than the guy seeing his dog, going all "why'd you show up here?" and then closing his eyes.

My guess: He was almost dead, and bled out by the end of this chapter.

krogothwolf
09-30-2010, 04:40 PM
Guys! I think we have it all wrong! The next big enemy is actually the evil inside Ichigo!

Seriously though, that was a pretty lame chapter then even the other ones. Stupid explanation to make Aizen seem less evil.

Yeah I figure Yammy is dead, though with Kubo you never really know.

Kim
09-30-2010, 04:44 PM
Kubo will go on to write a Yammy + Grimmjow buddy cop manga. I still think both are alive until stated otherwise.

Locke cole
09-30-2010, 04:47 PM
Yammy and Grimmjooooow~~!

This team-up is like, woooooow~~!

Heeeee's a psychopath!

Heeeee's also a psychopath!

I don't think the premise reeeeally works!

Kim
09-30-2010, 04:49 PM
No, it totally does. See, one's a furry psychopath. Problem solved!

Wigmund
09-30-2010, 04:50 PM
Noncon, what the hell were you thinking. Expecting people to actually die and for someone other than the main hero to take credit for defeating the Big Bad in Bleach.

Locke cole
09-30-2010, 04:52 PM
No, it totally does. See, one's a furry psychopath. Problem solved!

Deadpool should still write the themesong, though.

01d55
09-30-2010, 06:53 PM
Both wax philosophical on what Aizen really wanted in a post-death attempt at making Aizen pitiable that really just pisses me the fuck off. FUCK.

I can already see a handful of things that suggest Kubo had that story in mind; for example when he expresses disappointment that the Espada weren't as powerful as he was.

A Zarkin' Frood
10-01-2010, 12:28 PM
I don't think I'm telling anyone anything new here, but Bleach could be so much better if it were written by someone who doesn't think 100 chapters of ass-pullery are a good idea. I mean, Kubo has good ideas, he just can't seem to execute them very well.

Aerozord
10-01-2010, 01:15 PM
personally I found Zombie Powder to be more interesting.

synkr0nized
10-01-2010, 01:43 PM
Urahara, the one who finished Aizen off by being all smarty and whatnot, says "You defeated Aizen" to Ichigo. FUCK.

He didn't, though. Ichigo did. Aizen was only alive due to the Hougyoku regenerating him, but then it decided that he was no longer worth the time, allowing the seal to activate. If Ichigo hadn't beaten him/he hadn't found another like himself, etc. other lolAizenwaslonely stuff, the seal wouldn't have worked -- that's why it hadn't activated yet. At least, that's how it read to me. Urahara was more cleaning up and containing than dealing the finishing blow.

Ecks
10-03-2010, 03:51 PM
And yet, ominous rumblings occur... who wants to bet the hollow's finally had enough of waiting now that Zangetsu's out of the picture? Or is there some last-second Hogyouku fuckery that's going to restore his powers? Supposedly, the Mugetsu technique is what caused Isshin to lose his powers 20 years ago... yet he got 'em back.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-06-2010, 11:16 PM
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/senseker/whatever/1286418828015.jpg
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/senseker/whatever/1286418977059.jpg


So yeah that Aizen ichigo was fighting... wasn't Aizen from the looks of it.

my head hurts now...

Credit for these scans go to Senseker, a user on another forum I'm on.

Kim
10-06-2010, 11:20 PM
Just having an aneurysm from sheer stupidity... (http://www.gamepad-dojo.com/NonsyBlog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/DBZ-TFS-Abridged_-Vegeta-s-Aneurysm.mp3)

Kyanbu The Legend
10-06-2010, 11:29 PM
He either

A. Planned that he would be sealed and used his Shikai or Bankai to program a sleeper within the new/remaining central 46 to free him once he was token back.

or

B. The Aizen they were fighting was an arrancer clone of him self and that those bodies meyori found were failed attempts.

Arcanum
10-06-2010, 11:35 PM
Ummm looks to me like it's just Aizen being completely and utterly restrained in what seems to be the Central 46 meeting room. You know, so he doesn't pull another stupidly rigged move. Also, didn't his Zanpaktou disintegrate when the Hogyokou rejected him? Sooo yeah I don't get what the big deal is.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-06-2010, 11:38 PM
He was sealed up and now he's not. It seems a bit weird that they'd just let him out. Also given everything that's happened. It's understandable for us to freak out a little.

Kim
10-06-2010, 11:55 PM
Apparently Aizen is immortal, so they're sealing him in a prison for 20,000 years and that was from his trial... Right...

Donomni
10-06-2010, 11:59 PM
You'd think they wouldn't be stupid enough to actually let Aizen out of the seal thingy, but nope they totally did.

Kim
10-07-2010, 12:00 AM
Anyone wanna take bets Hinamori's how he inevitably escapes?

EDIT: Why is everyone talking about Ichigo's powers being gone forever. He's going to get them back. Isshin having powers at all confirms this. I think it was Fifth who said we've already had this plot thread before, only it was about Ishida.

EDIT2: Missing Captain's jackets will be important, probably.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-07-2010, 12:15 AM
Yeah knowing that really killed his "sacrifice" since he'll just get them back or gain new ones later on down the line.

IHateMakingNames
10-07-2010, 12:27 AM
The best part might be that Kubo even reversed the aging that Ichigo got from the few months of Hyperbolic Time Chamber training.

Arcanum
10-07-2010, 12:27 AM
The jackets are the Captains. Whoever wears them gains Captain-like power and authority. Two Hollow mooks will find Byakuya's and Kenpachi's jackets in Hueco Mundo and become the next big bad dudes, while one of Ichigo's friends will find Captain Flower Shirt's jacket and have to hold off the bad dudes while Ichigo works to regain his powers.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-07-2010, 12:41 AM
Never mind, that ending felt alittle heart warming. Maybe that's because it doesn't seem like Ichigo'll get his powers back.

But he will, eventually later on in the series.

Kim
10-07-2010, 05:39 AM
Oh yeah, and in case any of y'alls didn't know, Bleach is going on a two week hiatus while Kubo pulls more ideas out of his ass.

EVILNess
10-07-2010, 06:08 AM
Wow, You gotta love how Kubo can write something so bittersweet and good and really would make a kind of satisfying ending if he just put a little more work into it, but it doesn't matter cause Kubo.

Aerozord
10-07-2010, 01:08 PM
Never mind, that ending felt alittle heart warming. Maybe that's because it doesn't seem like Ichigo'll get his powers back.

But he will, eventually later on in the series.

Wow, You gotta love how Kubo can write something so bittersweet and good and really would make a kind of satisfying ending if he just put a little more work into it, but it doesn't matter cause Kubo.

which is why the saddest part is "bleach will return in two weeks" I mean this is about as concluded as Bleach can get. No ending after this could possible be as good as if they ended it right here

Grimpond
10-07-2010, 01:15 PM
Theory: They end up recruiting Aizen to restore ichigo's powers

Kyanbu The Legend
10-07-2010, 02:26 PM
Oh yeah I forgot, the Isshin flash back arc. I thinks thats the last arc.

So Bleach is almost over.

Kim
10-07-2010, 02:31 PM
I don't believe you.

EDIT: I'm waiting for making people do what he says telepathically being his bankai, and when his sword disappeared it was a trick of his shikai.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-07-2010, 02:39 PM
What else could he do at this point? Grimmjoww, Halilbel, and Stark are likely to have survived but I really only see Grimm coming back to actually do something.

Sithdarth
10-07-2010, 02:46 PM
Totally called Captain Genocide only sacrificing his arm to that technique. Though it makes me wonder with a month worth of time why hasn't Orihime reconstructed it? We know she can put you back together form basically nothing. Also, why isn't she working on Hinamori? I mean what she couldn't leave Ichigo for a few days while he was playing Sleeping Beauty for a month?

Kim
10-07-2010, 03:04 PM
What else could he do at this point? Grimmjoww, Halilbel, and Stark are likely to have survived but I really only see Grimm coming back to actually do something.

Aizen's still alive, which I shouldn't really be surprised at since we didn't see his bankai. Which means he still has plenty of potential to escape and fuck shit up. We haven't seen the other side of that big gate. We haven't seen the King of Soul Society.We don't know why Aizen is such a mopey villain in his sword. Etc.

Fifthfiend
10-07-2010, 03:16 PM
I dig how swapping powers with a mortal ====== DETH, but killing the council of douchelords / attempted regicide = some jail time.

I mean it's a lot of jail time, but we're talking about goddamn immortals, so any finite amount of jail time pretty much just = some jail time.

Aerozord
10-07-2010, 03:56 PM
I dig how swapping powers with a mortal ====== DETH, but killing the council of douchelords / attempted regicide = some jail time.

I mean it's a lot of jail time, but we're talking about goddamn immortals, so any finite amount of jail time pretty much just = some jail time.

well for one, no that isn't the punishment. Remember Aizen was manipulating things. It was what first made some of the characters suspicious because her punishment was pretty extreme.

Also being sealed away in isolation for tens of thousands of years to most is worse then death. Which admittedly makes no sense unless they plan to kill him right afterwards. There is no way you can go through that and come out sane

Locke cole
10-07-2010, 03:58 PM
I dig how swapping powers with a mortal ====== DETH, but killing the council of douchelords / attempted regicide = some jail time.

I mean it's a lot of jail time, but we're talking about goddamn immortals, so any finite amount of jail time pretty much just = some jail time.

They're banishing him to Avici because, apparently, he's freaking immortal even by Soul Reaper standards. They'd probably have him killed if they could kill him.

Plus, the Sogyoku being destroyed kind of puts a damper on execution plans.

Wigmund
10-07-2010, 04:07 PM
I dig how swapping powers with a mortal ====== DETH, but killing the council of douchelords / attempted regicide = some jail time.

I mean it's a lot of jail time, but we're talking about goddamn immortals, so any finite amount of jail time pretty much just = some jail time.

Between this and the unconfirmed 'deaths' of most of the arrancar, we have a nice opening for a point where all the previous Bleach villains return to wreck havoc on Ichigo and Pals.

Kinda like that bit in Dragonball Z where everyone escaped Hell, but they were so pathetic even Krillin could deal with them...
...
Hey, it means that Chad will have someone he can actually beat up!

IHateMakingNames
10-07-2010, 05:57 PM
Well, he does have a bunch of unrevealed stuff that he can us. The whole Hell thing that was forgotten after Chapter 3 (Or whatever single digit chapter it appeared in), most of the Bankais, the Soul King, Vasto Lordes, Chad, and probably more things that Kubo made up then ignored/forgot about.

And he can always just make more shit up.

So I suspect more Bleach.

Aerozord
10-07-2010, 06:06 PM
should be worried about things "Kubo made up then forgot" because there were alot of things we thought he did that with but turned out he was foreshadowing

greed
10-07-2010, 06:16 PM
Between this and the unconfirmed 'deaths' of most of the arrancar, we have a nice opening for a point where all the previous Bleach villains return to wreck havoc on Ichigo and Pals.

Kinda like that bit in Dragonball Z where everyone escaped Hell, but they were so pathetic even Krillin could deal with them...
...
Hey, it means that Chad will have someone he can actually beat up!

That or at some point in the future a new big bad shows up and they release Aizen to help fight him, inevitably leading to him and Ichigo becoming friend/rivals, the Vegeta to Ichigo's Goku (Byakuya and Grimmjow are Piccolo they'll stay useful for a little while, Kenpachi is Tien, everyone else is Yamcha, Bulma or Krillin), but with infinitely more gay undertones.

Hell that lonely sword line already sets it all up.

Grimpond
10-07-2010, 07:36 PM
That or at some point in the future a new big bad shows up and they release Aizen to help fight him, inevitably leading to him and Ichigo becoming friend/rivals, the Vegeta to Ichigo's Goku (Byakuya and Grimmjow are Piccolo they'll stay useful for a little while, Kenpachi is Tien, everyone else is Yamcha, Bulma or Krillin), but with infinitely more gay undertones.

Hell that lonely sword line already sets it all up.

the Vegeta to Ichigo's Goku (Byakuya and Grimmjow are Piccolo they'll stay useful for a little while, Kenpachi is Tien, everyone else is Yamcha, Bulma or Krillin),

the Vegeta to Ichigo's Goku (Byakuya and Grimmjow are Piccolo they'll stay useful for a little while, Kenpachi is Tien,

Kenpachi is Tien,

:mad:

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

greed
10-08-2010, 02:41 AM
Hey that was a compliment, Tien stayed pretty badass long after he as outclassed. Did better against Buu than Picollo and Vegeta did (well in Vegeta's case at least initially).

But I'm seriously expecting this to become the Ichigo and Aizen show at some point now. Hopefully far down the tracks.

Sithdarth
10-08-2010, 10:55 AM
Tien also seriously delayed Cell for awhile if I remembering right and at that point Cell was already strong enough to beat the Androids in a single attack and the Androids where strong enough to beat Tien in a single attack. So that is some serious badassery.

krogothwolf
10-08-2010, 11:03 AM
Wouldn't Kenpachi been more along the lines of a Trunks/Goten? or he could become Gohan and actually kick ass instead of being a whiny baby. Bleach will then be the Kenpachi show!

Arcanum
10-08-2010, 12:46 PM
Bleach will then be the Kenpachi show!

But that would make Bleach readers happy, and we all know Kubo does everything he can to avoid that.

Ecks
10-10-2010, 03:50 PM
I am sad now. No closure on HALF of the dangling plot threads, Ichigo is normal again (what a reversal, seriously, EVERYONE ELSE still has their power, and he can't even SEE spirit beings anymore, much less sense them. Kubo better have him back up to maximum bad-assitude or I may just have to find another manga to read... despite the fact that I've looked and nothing else gives what Bleach does, even if the delivery is somewhat lacking) and Aizen is as smug a bastard as ever. I half expected Captain Grandpa to mention something about honor (regarding the haori) unless there's something else about them that he'd never explained (they don't appear to have any affect on a shinigami's fighting ability, perhaps it has something to do with authority and ability to access certain areas of Seireitei? Iunno.) Oh well, guess Kubo's got two weeks to come up with something.

Locke cole
10-10-2010, 07:41 PM
(what a reversal, seriously, EVERYONE ELSE still has their power, and he can't even SEE spirit beings anymore, much less sense them.

So, pretty much exactly the same thing as what happened with Uryu's final form?

Aerozord
10-10-2010, 09:03 PM
So, pretty much exactly the same thing as what happened with Uryu's final form?

no he still could, remember he fought some hollows right before his dad took him on his "get back your powers" training

Locke cole
10-11-2010, 11:16 AM
no he still could, remember he fought some hollows right before his dad took him on his "get back your powers" training

Because he'd had the foresight to prepare magic items beforehand that could function even after his own powers were burned out. Those were a limited resource; he couldn't be a combatant forever, not without getting his powers restored.

But yes, he could still see Hollows, that's true.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-20-2010, 11:59 PM
Bleach the Movie 4 preview is out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVm-YRLbOJU

And it's looking AWESOME.

Sithdarth
10-27-2010, 12:15 PM
New Bleach is out everyone suddenly looks like they have permanent bed head for some reason. We've got a new arc and while Ichigo is still a good fighter for a human he's so far still powerless even after 17 months. I've got to wonder were Kubo is going with this.

Kim
10-27-2010, 01:17 PM
This chapter was actually decent. That is all.

Aerozord
10-27-2010, 03:26 PM
wait, did I miss-read or did they actually just do a call back to what we were told after the soul society arc about "soul society used to employ substitute soul reapers"

Locke cole
10-27-2010, 06:13 PM
I decided to make some dumb image macros with this chapter.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/aryu515/Ichihaters.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/aryu515/Ichiderp.gif

That last one? Not edited in any way, except for the speech bubble.

synkr0nized
10-27-2010, 06:56 PM
This chapter was actually decent. That is all.

I quite liked it, myself. It seemed "right".

Kyanbu The Legend
10-28-2010, 12:43 AM
Could it be that kubo is either...

Using the last few arcs just to answer all unanswered questions and tie up loss ends.

or

Planning to introduce Ichigo's replacement character.

or both.

Either way this chapter felt... weird.

Kim
10-28-2010, 12:53 AM
Neither. Right now we're playing the waiting game until Ichigo gets his powers back. Kubo has said Bleach is nowhere near done.

Locke cole
10-28-2010, 12:55 AM
Neither. Right now we're playing the waiting game until Ichigo gets his powers back. Kubo has said Bleach is nowhere near done.

I thought that was One Piece that was only halfway done, and Bleach had one or two arcs left.

Kim
10-28-2010, 01:02 AM
Having trouble finding the source, but what I've heard people say is that there are two arcs left, one that will take 6-8 months and another that will take 2-3 years.

greed
10-28-2010, 01:03 AM
I thought that was One Piece that was only halfway done, and Bleach had one or two arcs left.

Maybe you heard wrong.


Or maybe you heard right and Kubo's been Toriyama'd and we're about to enter Bleach's Cell saga.

Edit: Ninja'd

Locke cole
10-28-2010, 01:04 AM
Frickin' 2-3 years? Man.

See, and here I was thinking this was something like an epilogue arc. It has a similar feel to the last sort of demi-arc of Yu Yu Hakusho. After the Demon Tournament and all that.

At least, this one chapter did...

Kim
10-28-2010, 01:10 AM
FAN THEORY! New character is Zangetsu human form.

It will bring me closer to my "Ichigo is half sword" theory being true.

Locke cole
10-28-2010, 01:11 AM
Aren't all soul reapers kinda half-sword?

Pip Boy
10-28-2010, 01:28 AM
I HAVE AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT FOR ALL THE BLEACH WATCHING PEOPLE

I haven't watched Bleach in what must now be like two years. Since Ichigo and people went to the underworld place and I realized "HOLY CRAP ITS JUST LIKE DBZ" and stopped watching. I, have, however, run out of other good anime to watch, so you have like... I dunno... until I care to come back to this thread to sell me on all the reasons Bleach is awesome and I should watch it.

EDIT: Related (http://cdn.anyhub.net/thebest404pageever/swf/loituma.swf).

Kim
10-28-2010, 01:29 AM
Less that Bleach is awesome and you should watch, but Bleach is pretty awesome to get pissed off at.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-28-2010, 01:30 AM
Having trouble finding the source, but what I've heard people say is that there are two arcs left, one that will take 6-8 months and another that will take 2-3 years.

2 to 3 years... DAMN! O_o.

The short one's probably Isshin Arc.

Fifthfiend
10-28-2010, 01:54 AM
Tite Kubo sure did write and draw an issue of bleach which was published and then translated into English and I, then, read it.

Things that happened: a category which includes that.

Ayep.

I HAVE AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT FOR ALL THE BLEACH WATCHING PEOPLE

I haven't watched Bleach in what must now be like two years. Since Ichigo and people went to the underworld place and I realized "HOLY CRAP ITS JUST LIKE DBZ" and stopped watching. I, have, however, run out of other good anime to watch, so you have like... I dunno... until I care to come back to this thread to sell me on all the reasons Bleach is awesome and I should watch it.

EDIT: Related (http://cdn.anyhub.net/thebest404pageever/swf/loituma.swf).

See thread title.

PS if you're gonna link it, link it right (http://leekspin.com/).

Locke cole
10-28-2010, 01:59 AM
Fifthfiend, you would win the Noncommiting award if the awarding committee weren't in deadlock.

01d55
10-28-2010, 10:52 AM
I HAVE AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT FOR ALL THE BLEACH WATCHING PEOPLE

I haven't watched Bleach in what must now be like two years. Since Ichigo and people went to the underworld place and I realized "HOLY CRAP ITS JUST LIKE DBZ" and stopped watching. I, have, however, run out of other good anime to watch, so you have like... I dunno... until I care to come back to this thread to sell me on all the reasons Bleach is awesome and I should watch it.

By underworld place do you mean the one where hollows live or the one where shinigami live? If it's the latter you should totally watch up until Rukia's imprisonment comes to an end. Pretty much every expectation that Bleach was going to be not terrible is based on that arc.

Pip Boy
10-28-2010, 02:35 PM
No, I got through Soul Society, then I skipped Bounto because I heard it was filler, and then Ichigo went Super Saiyan 2 got some crazy Shinigami/Hollow powers and I was like well this is just DBZ all over again fuck this.

synkr0nized
10-28-2010, 03:43 PM
At that point, if you're not watching Bleach for the ridiculously-large cast and to see what kind of shenanigans they all get into (since we all know Ichigo is the Big Hero and gets the main focus/lolpowers) and how they contribute to the overall plot, then I guess yeah you're going to continue going, "lolDBZ" and not have a reason to watch.

01d55
10-29-2010, 04:00 PM
No, I got through Soul Society, then I skipped Bounto because I heard it was filler, and then Ichigo went Super Saiyan 2 got some crazy Shinigami/Hollow powers and I was like well this is just DBZ all over again fuck this.

Okay yeah, other than a few bright spots, from that point on it's like DBZ all over again if Bulma's role in DBZ was to get kidnapped and cry a lot, fuck that.

EDIT: New chapter suggests Bleach may be tolerable right up to the point where Ichigo inevitably gets his powers back.

Kim
11-02-2010, 05:03 PM
This is a good chapter. I hope this continues for a while.

Fifthfiend
11-02-2010, 06:33 PM
mangalinkz (http://lolscanz)

You should probably not be direct-linking to the sites where you get your illegal scans of US-licensed and published mangazzorz.

synkr0nized
11-02-2010, 06:44 PM
Indeed. And this has come up before with Bleach, and it's even come up before with you, Locke. You should know better by now, so take a couple days to remind yourself of the rules.

Fifthfiend
11-03-2010, 01:10 AM
Lol, I totally narced out Locke.

Aerozord
11-03-2010, 11:43 PM
I actually forgot how much of an airhead Orihime is.

Completely random, but when Tatsuki shows up are those guys in the background checking her out? I just kind of assumed the violent personality and ability to break your skull would turn off most guys

greed
11-04-2010, 01:28 AM
I actually forgot how much of an airhead Orihime is.

Completely random, but when Tatsuki shows up are those guys in the background checking her out? I just kind of assumed the violent personality and ability to break your skull would turn off most guys

I think those are girls dude.

Donomni
11-04-2010, 12:42 PM
It is time for some Bleach shenanigans!

http://i54.tinypic.com/2eura7b.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2epsmme.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/lhaat.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/dniqeh.jpg

Arcanum
11-04-2010, 01:16 PM
I think the best part is that Gin is standing right behind him as they watch the video. That's how sly he is.

Art of Hilt
11-08-2010, 08:49 AM
I just read the last two chapters, by themselves.
...
Is it okay if I pretend that Soul Society and Aizen never happened, and that this is a continuation of the "school boy with his school friends in a modern setting highlighted by ghost shenanigans" dynamic from before?
'Cause I really liked that dynamic you guys.
Literally the only reason I started with the series in the first place. Also the reason why I stopped once I realized that it might never go back to it again.
See look I am crossing my fingers and hoping Ichigo never gets Shinigami powers again if that's what it takes.



oh god i'm just setting myself up for disappointment

Locke cole
11-08-2010, 09:55 AM
I'm hoping that if/when he does get his powers back, that the action is localized within Karakura Town. Just center things around that Sensui-esque former Deputy, keep things in Karakura Town, keep doing character interaction like this, let Chad win, and we'll be good.

Donomni
11-08-2010, 01:58 PM
Nah, we all know this is some dumbass illusion from Aizen's Bankai or some shit.

I mean, it's too GOOD for Kubo to not fuck up epically.

Fifthfiend
11-09-2010, 07:33 PM
I just read the last two chapters, by themselves.
...
Is it okay if I pretend that Soul Society and Aizen never happened, and that this is a continuation of the "school boy with his school friends in a modern setting highlighted by ghost shenanigans" dynamic from before?
'Cause I really liked that dynamic you guys.
Literally the only reason I started with the series in the first place. Also the reason why I stopped once I realized that it might never go back to it again.
See look I am crossing my fingers and hoping Ichigo never gets Shinigami powers again if that's what it takes.

oh god i'm just setting myself up for disappointment

Every anime that starts out with a premise/dynamic like that throws it the fuck out 13 episodes in and replaces it with "main character becomes god, then, kills god."

BitVyper
11-09-2010, 08:09 PM
Sometimes the main character was god all along.

Aerozord
11-09-2010, 08:11 PM
Sometimes the main character was god all along.

now now lets keep this civilized. No need to bring Naruto into this

Ryong
11-09-2010, 08:22 PM
...Could I ask why do you people still watch/read it, so completely sure that everything you still like will be made terrible and then complaining that it has been done...Instead of, y'know, just stop watching/reading it? Fifth just pointed out, yeah, that's how anime like this works. There are few that don't. Bleach is not one of them, you all know that. Embark again on the quest to find that anime/manga, because stopping halfway and just complaining about one of them isn't going to work very well.

And if any of that sounded dickish?

I like Bleach. I really do. I guess I'm immune to plot holes and stuff, because I read it for fun, not for a crazy great perfect story it has to be, not for making a ship and flaming whoever isn't a fan of it. I'm not trying to go "shit, y'all, you ain't true fans like me!" I'm just saying that, seriously, Bleach has been heading the same for quite a while and if you haven't liked the ride so far, you can get off at any point.

Kim
11-09-2010, 08:37 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/dq51tx.gif

Fifthfiend
11-09-2010, 08:43 PM
...Could I ask why do you people still watch/read it, so completely sure that everything you still like will be made terrible and then complaining that it has been done...Instead of, y'know, just stop watching/reading it?

It certainly appears that you can.

Ryong
11-09-2010, 08:55 PM
Given the amount and way people've talked about the last few chapters, it seems incredibly hard, Fifth.

NonCon, if you didn't see that coming, please, read the last few pages and remember who I am. Dang, complaining about people complaining about stuff is like, my defining characteristic.

Fifthfiend
11-10-2010, 12:09 AM
Given the amount and way people've talked about the last few chapters, it seems incredibly hard, Fifth.

And yet you managed it so effortlessly.

Dang, complaining about people complaining about stuff is like, my defining characteristic.

Hopefully the itch has been scratched and we can all move on until next time (they seem to occur, what, quarterly?)

BitVyper
11-10-2010, 12:56 AM
now now lets keep this civilized. No need to bring Naruto into this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/BitVyper/hare2.jpg

Naruwho?

Ryong
11-10-2010, 03:45 PM
And yet you managed it so effortlessly.

...What. I still read Bleach.

Hopefully the itch has been scratched and we can all move on until next time (they seem to occur, what, quarterly?)

...Are you using Trollian to visit the forums? 'Cause your notion of time seems a bit off.

Kim
11-10-2010, 05:04 PM
Latest Bleach chapter may have the best title page in the history of manga.

EDIT: Also, this chapter was pretty great. I'm waiting for the downhill moment, but I'll try and enjoy this stuff as much as I can in the meanwhile.

EDIT2: Theory: Mr Slicked-back hair is Young Aizen!

EDIT3: Why don't any shinigami use gigai to visit Ichigo and pals? Is there a particular reason for that?

Fifthfiend
11-10-2010, 05:22 PM
Well that was the biggest pile of nonsensical bullshit I've ever seen.

...What. I still read Bleach.

You should go back a few steps, see if you can catch what you missed.

Ryong
11-10-2010, 05:43 PM
...That was very nitpicky. Okay, then.

Could I ask why do you people still watch/read it, so completely sure that everything you still like will be made terrible and then complaining that it has been done...Instead of, y'know, just stop watching/reading it?

Kyanbu The Legend
11-10-2010, 05:48 PM
Latest Bleach chapter may have the best title page in the history of manga.

EDIT: Also, this chapter was pretty great. I'm waiting for the downhill moment, but I'll try and enjoy this stuff as much as I can in the meanwhile.

EDIT2: Theory: Mr Slicked-back hair is Young Aizen!

EDIT3: Why don't any shinigami use gigai to visit Ichigo and pals? Is there a particular reason for that?

Because they ****ing hate him. Don't ask why they just do.

Joke aside they are probably busy. May likely have to take turns keeping an eye on Aizen.

Aerozord
11-10-2010, 07:06 PM
I think its more of an emotional thing, worried about reminding him of what he lost, or they themselves cant bare to look at him now.

This chapter also reminds me of why I got into this series, the humor. I love the bit of fourth wall breaking about the flashback

01d55
11-10-2010, 08:25 PM
Latest Bleach chapter may have the best title page in the history of manga.

EDIT: Also, this chapter was pretty great. I'm waiting for the downhill moment, but I'll try and enjoy this stuff as much as I can in the meanwhile.

EDIT2: Theory: Mr Slicked-back hair is Young Aizen!

EDIT3: Why don't any shinigami use gigai to visit Ichigo and pals? Is there a particular reason for that?

It's looking like the new guy is descended from the former substitute Shinigami who - like everyone - got douched by Soul Society in The Past and are carrying a grudge.

The issue in EDIT3 has been brought up, Ichigo is fronting like he don't care.

Also, New Character! My first impression is positive. She's going to go one of two ways: Secretly in cahoots with Urahara, or ultimately sidelined when focus shifts away from anyone we care about to a bunch of assholes DBZ'n it up in dis.

Wigmund
11-10-2010, 10:03 PM
I gonna go with the theory that Boss McTits is working with Urahara.

phil_
11-10-2010, 10:12 PM
This is now a comic about cooking. Unagiya will become a true eel cookery, and Kurosaki will purge Japan of the Chinese scum known as ramen through the power of smoked eel.

Locke cole
11-11-2010, 01:33 AM
Hey, I figured out who that head thug was.

He was the leader of the dudes who tried to jump Chad back when he first met Ichigo.

You know, during the flashback just before Chad's fateful first encounter with the everpresent pool of his own blood.

Kim
11-17-2010, 10:43 AM
http://i51.tinypic.com/9uya2d.png

Okay, this guy is Aizen. No two ways about it.

Locke cole
11-17-2010, 12:21 PM
I honestly thought that Aizen was in Urahara's shop (stupid rotating perspectives) when I first read page 19.

Sort of flipped out before I remembered who it really was.

Aerozord
11-17-2010, 12:57 PM
Well guess we know how they will be framing the Isshin arc. Which should take, what, 90 chapters? I forget what number Pendulum arc left off

Kyanbu The Legend
11-17-2010, 06:46 PM
Oh things are starting to pick up. And it may seem like the new Hell arc movie is canon/semi canon.

Bells
11-17-2010, 07:06 PM
Overall, i like the lead way Bleach is going. I trully do. I've also decided not to Spoil mysefl anymore. As soon as the Anyme closes it's arc, i'll stop reading the manga and will stay with just the anime (i'm positive there is a filler arc on the way)

As for this guy's arc... i'm not sure if he is the same as Ichigo, but he does seem to know about Ichigo's Family... Specially Isshin.

Isshin is a Captain grade, and his division was kept a secret so far... So i'm still betting he was from Division Zero, and got expelled somehow. Also, it's well known that Isshin lost his powers for several years, and he knows about the Final Getsuga Tenshou (and he knows the Getsuga Tenshou).

So it's not a big secret that Ichigo is probably directly linked to the Royal Family or the Soul Society King.

This new dude is probably what Renji was on the Early days of the Manga. Tracking down Isshin under orders from someone above (the king?)

Also, he is not Aizen... he is a fusion of both main villains from Gundam X, Shagia and Olba Frost

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100617172646/ggenwars/images/c/c1/Shagia_Frost.pnghttp://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100617172621/ggenwars/images/d/d5/Olba_Frost.png

Kim
11-25-2010, 07:01 AM
Fuhrer King Bradley?!

EVILNess
11-25-2010, 08:07 AM
[IMG]Okay, this guy is Aizen. No two ways about it.

I wish you guys would stop making outrageous claims in jest like this. This shit blows back on us when it turns out to be true.

Art of Hilt
11-25-2010, 10:16 AM
... Oh.
Ichigo is somehow going to get his powers back and have a billion-chapter arc where he rescues his sister from Hell.
I would bet a lot of money on that being what's going to happen.
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

Kyanbu The Legend
11-25-2010, 03:18 PM
Today's chapter was a tie in for the Movie...

So it's semi cannon...

Next weeks chapter will pick up where last weeks left off.

EDIT: so we still got a regular chapter this week.

Sounds like Karin's going to be the new sub. Urahara might actually be a villain (for some that's the most awesome news ever for Bleach). And Ichigo's going to have a nice/aggressive chat with him about possibly being the bad guy/shady about something he should know.

And Goujou has friends it seems.

Aerozord
11-25-2010, 07:20 PM
well of course you didn't expect there only to be one or two new characters did you? This is bleach. We got a 10 new character minimum for arcs

My money has just done some questionable things then being out and out bad guy. Already got the whole "pretend to be good" thing from aizen, and I dont think he'd repeat himself like that

Kim
11-25-2010, 09:10 PM
Ichigo is somehow going to get his powers back

Did... Did anyone actually doubt that this was going to happen? Ever? It's been established since long before he lost his powers that he'd be able to get them back, because his father did. It's been implied that he'd be able to get them back faster and stronger than his father did by virtue of the fact that he's Ichigo and anything anyone in Bleach can do he can inevitably do better. Even if Ichigo's sister gets powers and turns out to be a little prodigy, he will still be Goku, and nothing will ever change that. Ichigo losing his powers is the equivalent of Goku dying.

phil_
11-25-2010, 10:36 PM
Are we supposed to take the guy saying "Urahara's totally a bad dude" seriously? He's been a protagonist since he was introduced. Even his cruel training was necessary to get Ichigo's powers back the first time he lost them. Was there something in Turn Back the Pendulum or whatever those chapters were called that might support him ever being more than sorta creepy?

Keep in mind that I kinda skipped from Ichigo training to be a Vizard up to "Who said the Espadas go from one to ten?" so I could have missed something that makes this more than a laughably obvious "bad-guy makes the good-guys not trust eachother" plot. I don't even want to consider the alternative.

Aerozord
11-25-2010, 11:30 PM
Was there something in Turn Back the Pendulum or whatever those chapters were called that might support him ever being more than sorta creepy?

it gave less evidence. He was more of an introverted optimist back then

Kyanbu The Legend
11-26-2010, 12:13 AM
Are we supposed to take the guy saying "Urahara's totally a bad dude" seriously? He's been a protagonist since he was introduced. Even his cruel training was necessary to get Ichigo's powers back the first time he lost them. Was there something in Turn Back the Pendulum or whatever those chapters were called that might support him ever being more than sorta creepy?

Keep in mind that I kinda skipped from Ichigo training to be a Vizard up to "Who said the Espadas go from one to ten?" so I could have missed something that makes this more than a laughably obvious "bad-guy makes the good-guys not trust eachother" plot. I don't even want to consider the alternative.

From the sounds of it he's trying to spin the whole "Urahara wants to make Karin the next Gohan" bit so that it'll sound like a bad thing to Ichigo.

Bells
11-26-2010, 07:05 PM
Well, at the very least as far as Shonen Manga goes this is, in the very least, a honest point to spin upon.

I mean, how much do we REALLY know about Urahara? How much of what he did went just juxtaposed to what Aizen wanted? There really are quite a few questions with open meaning around him...

I mena, he did create wanted to find a way to break the barrier between Shinigami and Hollow, and he was fully aware that Aizen wanted something around that as well, and yet, he still kept Ichigo on that track...

Also Aizen's own past is quite distorted and the point where him and Urahara actually get to know each other is blurry at best.

So, i'm not saying Urahara is a Fiend or the Real Bad Guy... but it wouldn't be an absurd twist if he had less than noble intents.

But, yeah. Karin = Gohan. I can totally see that.

Kim
11-29-2010, 08:45 AM
Just read the tie-in chapter for the Hell Arc movie. Dear Kubo, please draw villains who don't look like Aizen. Thank you.

Kyanbu The Legend
11-30-2010, 01:24 AM
He can't, he's becoming obsessed with Aizen.

It seems he's trying to top Aizen this time.

Aerozord
11-30-2010, 03:37 PM
anyone else getting a Buu saga vibe from this? that the story was meant to end with Aizen but he is forcibly continuing it past its original narrative?

Kim
12-01-2010, 02:11 AM
Not really, because I'm fairly certain Aizen will be coming back for the final arc, assuming he doesn't come back this one. There are still a lot of unanswered questions from the previous arcs, too.

synkr0nized
12-01-2010, 02:30 AM
Those characters don't look like Aizen if you weren't affected by Aizen's bankai.

Fifthfiend
12-01-2010, 03:17 AM
Just read the tie-in chapter for the Hell Arc movie. Dear Kubo, please draw villains who don't look like Aizen. Thank you.

Things that are as likely as this: Kubo drawing a setting that isn't as fucking boring as every single other place in this comic.

HELL: pretty much just like Hueco Mundo. HWEEEEE!

Kyanbu The Legend
12-01-2010, 09:08 PM
Spoiler Script and TranslationVerification: Confirmed
Source: FLOL
Credits: maaru

281 ?ohana ?IR7jauNn4E ?2010/12/01(?) 16:11:23 ID:+TUUtrSLP

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Ichigo comes home.
?????????????????
Yuzu shows Ichigo her test results and gets praised.
?????????????????
Yuzu notices something strange about how Ichigo looks.

??????????
Their father's been out since morning.
??????????????????????
For my reiatsu to.... be missing at this time too...

????????
Orihime arrives.
??????????????
Orihime goes to Ichigo's room.
???????????
Is there anything strange lately?
?????????????????
Some guy I don't know's been baiting me~

?????????
Ichigo: Nothing like that.

?????
Outside is Ishida.
???????????????????
That reiatsu's Inoue-san... I wonder if they're alright.
??????????????????????
As Ishida walks home, he discovers someone walking on top of the electric lines, and gives chase.
??????????
Ah, so you've noticed~~

???????????
Ichigo takes a card out of his bag.
??????????????????????????
There's a patrol car siren nearby. Ishida's collapsed and bleeding.

??????????
Ichigo takes out the card:

welcome?to XCUTION
[TN: yes, it's spelled that way]

?????
The end.

God damnit Kubo! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DgFWOvgL90)

He hasn't even had the chance to really do ANYTHING and he's already a bloody mess on the curb.

Arcanum
12-01-2010, 10:24 PM
It's like everyone except Ichigo is Krillin.

Kim
12-01-2010, 11:14 PM
Guys, I no longer need to read the Bleach manga, nor watch the Bleach anime. I have found something far superior.

The Bleach Musical (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbqU46QaojY)

Fun fact: Urahara is played by the same guy who played DekaGreen is Tokusou Sentai Dekaranger.

Arcanum
12-02-2010, 01:57 PM
And again with the arms. Seriously Kubo, enough with the goddamn arms.

IHateMakingNames
12-02-2010, 03:31 PM
Hey, at least it wasn't Chad who got bitched out right away.

Xcution annoys me since there is an "e" sound between the x and c, so it doesn't actually sound right.

And what happened to Inoue?


I just noticed, but how long as Kubo been ignoring backgrounds and using so much white space?

Kim
12-02-2010, 07:35 PM
Forever.

Locke cole
12-02-2010, 07:38 PM
Hah, I knew her job was at a bakery.

Bells
12-02-2010, 09:10 PM
The Bleach Musical (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbqU46QaojY)

What the fuck the what what the what !?

Well, ain't gonna see this one on Broadway... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_eRkqByB7k&feature=related)

Kim
12-02-2010, 09:56 PM
Indeed, it is far too good for Broadway.

Kyanbu The Legend
12-03-2010, 01:19 AM
Jeez his arm!? God whats with the arms!?

Token
12-03-2010, 02:12 AM
Arms killed Kubo's parents.

Kyanbu The Legend
12-08-2010, 04:01 AM
Seems his arm is still there. I can make out his hand in that poodle of blood.

Fifthfiend
12-08-2010, 07:15 AM
What the fuck the what what the what !?

Well, ain't gonna see this one on Broadway... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_eRkqByB7k&feature=related)

Soooooooooooo many gifs, begging to be made.

synkr0nized
12-08-2010, 07:38 AM
That fails for Kenpachi not slaughtering everyone for dancing around like fairies.


Oh God, Byakuya, too. Well, actually, as long as everyone's following the rules...

Aerozord
12-09-2010, 01:21 PM
"he isn't an anime character"

no idea why but I always love stuff like that

IHateMakingNames
12-09-2010, 02:11 PM
I expect we won't even see Chad before he gets taken out.

Kyanbu The Legend
12-09-2010, 02:28 PM
No not again... Chad needs some awesome time now. Let arrow lad take his place as the new worf victim.

Kinda cool to see the new villains being humans with powers.

Donomni
12-09-2010, 02:37 PM
If we don't see MIB-ish guys in black suits and shades in a human organization with supernatural-ish powers then I will be very disappointed-ish in Kubo.

I mean, it's just a natural conclusion, man!

Bells
12-09-2010, 06:21 PM
So... wierd but cool stuff. Just like Ichigo's Presence awakened powers in Orihime and Chad, it's likely that the final fight etween ichigo and Aizen caused some Humans in Karakura to also Awaken to new powers, this is actually a nice little device to invent a new enemy/ally...

Also, it's pretty much the Bounto arc in Canon form, which could be nice.

Kyanbu The Legend
12-09-2010, 09:27 PM
Looks like Ichigo is going to have a repeat of how he acquired control over his hallow powers. Except he will gain something different.

phil_
12-09-2010, 09:32 PM
Neither shinigami nor hollow.

Power born from his will as a human.

Ichigo is back on the front lines!

And then it's a sword.

Kyanbu The Legend
12-09-2010, 09:35 PM
... Sword better be different and cool looking.

phil_
12-09-2010, 09:49 PM
It will be a katana, and it will be big and black.

Also, Isshin has been using these powers the entire time.

Fifthfiend
12-09-2010, 10:06 PM
God, Yuzu

It's not like he's some

ANIME CHARACTER

hEh

Kyanbu The Legend
12-09-2010, 11:15 PM
It will be a katana, and it will be big and black.

Also, Isshin has been using these powers the entire time.

... I could live with that (love Big Black Weapons).

Wigmund
12-09-2010, 11:19 PM
love Big Black Weapons

Didn't know Bleach had become that kind of manga.
Though with all the big fucking tits running around, it was just a matter of time.

Kyanbu The Legend
12-09-2010, 11:22 PM
What? No-Dachi blades are cool.

01d55
12-13-2010, 11:01 AM
God, Yuzu

It's not like he's some

ANIME CHARACTER

hEh

That's a very good point: he's a manga character. A vital distinction!

Sithdarth
12-15-2010, 06:19 PM
Well that didn't take long at all. Also, apparently Pride has decided to sneak over from FMA.

Kim
12-15-2010, 06:29 PM
Ichigo's going to get back his shinigami powers? SURELY YOU JEST!

EDIT: So these guys are the new Vaizards, basically.

Sithdarth
12-15-2010, 06:37 PM
I just realized based on the description, assuming all floors are identical and they started with one room in the center they would have to have rented out 77 rooms. That's assuming 11 rooms per floor and the total of 7 floors. If we assume they didn't start with a room in the center and then rent 5 more on either side that is still 70 rooms. At this rate they would have been better off just building an island somewhere.

Aerozord
12-15-2010, 07:51 PM
My new nickname for Orihime, the bread-fairy

leaving gifts of tasty bread for good girls and boys

Wigmund
12-15-2010, 08:07 PM
Well that didn't take long at all. Also, apparently Pride has decided to sneak over from FMA.

I guess that means the blond guy in the pea coat is either Alphonse or Edward.

Kyanbu The Legend
12-16-2010, 01:54 PM
Ichigo's getting his powers back now huh.

wonder if he'll start back off at level 1 like is dad did.

Bells
12-16-2010, 02:50 PM
We can't confirm that his had is at level 1 again. Just cause he didn't use his Zapakuto against Aizen, that is not really confirmation. Yoruichi didn't use hers (and it's not even sure if she has one) and Urahara Didn't use his Bankai.

Up to this point, i still stand by what i said earlier. This is the Anime Filler Bount's Arc in Manga Form.

Aerozord
12-16-2010, 05:11 PM
wonder if he'll start back off at level 1 like is dad did.

He sent Aizen flying by giving him the finger. If thats level 1 I dont want to see what he's like at full power

Kyanbu The Legend
12-16-2010, 06:12 PM
I wonder if this means Zangetsu will comeback along with Hollow Ichigo. Or will the sword just be a shell of it's former self without the spirit. That's kinda what I meant by Level 1.

Kim
12-18-2010, 11:53 PM
“It’s about halfway through the story at the moment.
[...]
At the very least, I’ll be doing it for another 10 years.”

KUBO WHYYYYYYYY

Aerozord
12-18-2010, 11:54 PM
sure it was Kubo, cause thats like word for word what was said about one piece

phil_
12-19-2010, 12:04 AM
sure it was Kubo, cause thats like word for word what was said about one pieceBut One Piece is good.

Kim
12-19-2010, 01:02 AM
http://i56.tinypic.com/axfy41.jpg

Donomni
12-19-2010, 12:57 PM
10 years

Seriously?

Goddammit, Kubo.

Kyanbu The Legend
12-24-2010, 02:56 AM
what the hell? 10 years!? He's not serious is he?

Bells
12-24-2010, 01:19 PM
It's a challenge, to be sure. But is not a huge travesty for the guy to want to be in the hall of the largest and longest running manga series ever... it means he is aiming for about 80 volumes, we are currently at 43 i think

Sithdarth
12-25-2010, 09:30 PM
So Chad isn't the worf. Also, this totally explains the origins of Orihime and Chad's powers. I think Chad's is the transformation of the ring he wears and of course Orihime's came from that hair thing here brother gave her. Man Kubo really plays the long game.

Aerozord
12-26-2010, 03:22 AM
ok I'll admit, I didn't think he could do it at this point, but I'm actually interested in this arc now

Bells
12-26-2010, 07:46 AM
I would like to point out that for a "meat tank" chad has some really, really, classy shoes.

Kyanbu The Legend
12-26-2010, 03:26 PM
And hopefully he won't kiss the ground much anymore during this arc.

Kyanbu The Legend
01-12-2011, 06:58 PM
Update:
Chapter's out.

The full bringers plan is to sacrifice their hollow power (full-bring=Hollow power) to restore ichigo's powers.

And Chad is now completely useless...

Kim
01-12-2011, 07:36 PM
No, their plan is to bring back Ichigo's powers so that they can sacrifice their Hollow power.

And now Chad has an awesome beard thing goin' on.

Fifthfiend
01-12-2011, 07:47 PM
It's still entirely possible that Chad might turn out to be useful, even though he won't because he's Chad and it's Bleach.

ALSO the reason I came in here

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9279/bleach019.png

No lie, I lolled.

Sithdarth
01-12-2011, 09:03 PM
Is it a bad thing or a good thing that I can't tell if that is just an awesome translation from Japanese or if Kubo would actually do that himself?

Fifthfiend
01-12-2011, 09:05 PM
Haha I was wondering the same thing, that is either the raddest fuckin' translators in the world or Tite Kubo earns one (1) legitimate Totally Awesome point.

Aerozord
01-13-2011, 12:57 AM
not sure if he did, but it wouldn't suprise me in the least if he did, and in english. anyone got the raw?

Sithdarth
01-13-2011, 01:07 AM
On second thought link is better. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/Sithdarth/05.jpg)

Not only was it a translation but also a master piece of cleaning. Of course I still wonder how literal the translation was. It appears that the credit probably goes to Kubo and the cleaner/translators. The content of the words and how they where put into the panel were obviously Kubo but the translator/cleaner did I great job translating the effect into English. So kudos all around it seems.

Kyanbu The Legend
01-13-2011, 01:09 AM
Which makes it a freaking awesome translation. :D

Aerozord
01-13-2011, 06:11 PM
talked to my scanlation translator friend.

A literally and direct translation is "why is he so cool/amazing/ect"

though with the slang used and context, it would be the Japanese equivalent of what was translated

Locke cole
01-16-2011, 02:53 AM
Man, now I'm depressed because I just know that VIZ isn't going to do anything quite as awesome as OHMYGODHE'SAHOTTIE.

So, I was in an odd mood today, and made http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1782/soulsocietysucks.jpg

Aerozord
01-16-2011, 02:15 PM
well 2 is kind of correct. if you dont have spiritual power you dont have to eat or drink. They do it purely for the enjoyment of eating.

but over all yea, I mean of course she lied, who'd want to cross over if they realized they'd just be a bunch of serfs in a feudal society

Kyanbu The Legend
01-26-2011, 10:22 PM
New Chapter is out.

lol
Her Full Bring power is doll house. An ability that let's her sucking things into a doll house. Seems like we have another training arc on our hands now. And Ichigo might get to keep the other full bring powers once his powers are restored.

Aerozord
01-27-2011, 12:19 AM
would be more amusing if Ichigo caught "anything I find cute or awesome"

and for some reason I am still having trouble getting used to Karin with breasts

Kyanbu The Legend
01-27-2011, 04:00 AM
Same here, it just feels weird. Don't know why, it just does.

phil_
01-27-2011, 01:28 PM
Ch'okay, so, these guys were born with their powers, right? Their "Fullbrings," as it were. So, if that's the case, then we already know what Ichigo's Fullbring is, as it's a power he was born with, and he was born with a power.

Now, the question is, how does seeing ghosts help one fight a bear?

Donomni
01-27-2011, 02:04 PM
He talks it to death. Much like that one season-ending fight in... Digimon, was it?

"Hopes and dreams! The job I eventually want! Puppies and pancakes!"

*Ultimate evilmon dies*

A bit more seriously, it'll probably be Yet Another Sword™.

Kyanbu The Legend
02-02-2011, 08:10 PM
New Chapter's out.

Nothing special, just a comedy chapter and Riruka if you enjoy her character.

Next chapter however, is where shit gets fun. Ichigo FINALLY uses a full bring power. And the bear went psycho hulk.

Aerozord
02-03-2011, 11:45 PM
I like how Chad kind of breaks the shonen training rule of "figure it out yourself" by just outright saying it. Yes he figured it out himself anyways but atleast he was willing