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Kim
09-13-2011, 11:24 AM
Eleventh, I think? Whatever Captain Leukemia's squad is.

Aerozord
09-13-2011, 03:42 PM
Its 13, and would make sense since 13 had been lacking a second seat for awhile

Kyanbu The Legend
09-14-2011, 12:36 PM
Ah Rukia just can't resist the cuteness. XD

And Riruka is just so cute with those bunny ears and toy raygun! X3

Ecks
09-14-2011, 11:23 PM
Byakuya's once again the Stoic. And it is appropriately awesome for him to be pissed off and not look it.

phil_
09-21-2011, 02:24 PM
On this week's DragonBall Z, Vegeta fights Dirt Woman, the woman with the power of dirt! Can he effortlessly wreck enough desolate wasteland to make me care?! Find out on the next episode of DragonBleach Z!

*guitar riff*

Locke cole
09-21-2011, 02:27 PM
I'm sorry, but I can't hear you over the sound of

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/aryu515/Ikkakuyeahbig.png

Kim
09-21-2011, 02:29 PM
Ikkaku was pretty rad. Renji can never be cool, but I did dig the whole, "I've been training to fight AIZEN you idiots."

Locke cole
09-21-2011, 02:32 PM
By the way, I can understand dislocating a dude's shoulder with a lucky hit, but how in the world is he snapping trees in half?

phil_
09-21-2011, 03:43 PM
They just happen to be rotting/a beaver just went at them/a lumber-wizard happened to be in the area and saw some trees that needed to be felled.

Aerozord
09-21-2011, 05:34 PM
I'm happy because it keeps with the established continuity, but upset because of what that continuity is.

"Humans suck"

IHateMakingNames
09-21-2011, 06:51 PM
I'm happy because it keeps with the established continuity, but upset because of what that continuity is.

"Humans suck"
That's been every scene that involves humans. At least this time it's not Ishida or Chad that are showing it off.

Sifright
09-21-2011, 06:56 PM
By the way, I can understand dislocating a dude's shoulder with a lucky hit, but how in the world is he snapping trees in half?

isn't his power the ability to basically roll the dice before each attack to decide attack power and he is locked at 777 for this entire battle due to ichigos full bring being swallowed?

Locke cole
09-21-2011, 07:18 PM
isn't his power the ability to basically roll the dice before each attack to decide attack power and he is locked at 777 for this entire battle due to ichigos full bring being swallowed?

His attack is luck-based. For example, he dislocated Ikkaku's shoulder because he just so happened to hit at just the right spot for that to heppen. Just like when he attacked Ginjou, and Ginjou's sword-hilt brok at the worst possible moment, due to a combination of wear-and-tear and bad luck.

A roll of 777 means an impossibly lucky strike.

And he's the only one who hasn't absorbed Ichigo's fullbring, by the way. Ginjou even wants to kill him off after the battle, because his power could become troublesome if it gets any stronger.

Kim
09-21-2011, 07:21 PM
I thought it was the other dude who didn't get Ichigo's fullbring.

Fifthfiend
09-21-2011, 07:26 PM
I had to look it up, yeah, it's knuckleguy who didn't get it.

IHateMakingNames
09-21-2011, 07:30 PM
I don't think the other dude (Tsukishima) got a power up either.

Kyanbu The Legend
09-21-2011, 08:38 PM
Which means they'll be dead pretty soon.

Also Ikkaku and Rengi = Boss

Ecks
09-22-2011, 03:40 AM
By the way, I can understand dislocating a dude's shoulder with a lucky hit, but how in the world is he snapping trees in half?

He's Vriska.

Yes, I went there.

Kyanbu The Legend
09-28-2011, 09:52 AM
New chapter!

Man these guys are really dropping like flies.

PSP kid is already dead. And Renji may have saved dirty boots, not completely sure.

phil_
09-28-2011, 10:05 AM
"Ha ha! I'll bet you don't even have a tragic backstory!"

But this is Bleach, where everyone has a tragic past. This is why you don't monologue; it just makes you a villain. You must reveal your past through proper flashbacks.

Locke cole
09-28-2011, 10:41 AM
And what have we learned?

Don't be evil. It only leads to PSP ownership.

And don't monologue. Especially if the monologue is leading up to "I drove my dad to suicide! :D" It just makes it much more likely that you'll get killed to appease the audience.

Aerozord
09-28-2011, 10:47 AM
"Ha ha! I'll bet you don't even have a tragic backstory!"

But this is Bleach, where everyone has a tragic past. This is why you don't monologue; it just makes you a villain. You must reveal your past through proper flashbacks.

I do like how Hitsugaya's reaction to that amounts to "blah blah tragic past blah blah evil, we get it, can you die now?"

Locke cole
09-28-2011, 10:54 AM
And how Yukio's reaction is basically "No! Not tragic past! Evil past! Idiot!"

Kyanbu The Legend
09-28-2011, 11:08 AM
A thought just accord. Since Yukio is more or less dead meat, what's going to happen to the virtual stages Will it callapes in on it's self?

Locke cole
09-28-2011, 11:10 AM
Suddenly:

GAME OVER

And everyone still in a game-room dies.

phil_
09-28-2011, 12:42 PM
Suddenly:

GAME OVER

And everyone still in a game-room dies.And then it's a show about Kenpatchi.

Good plan.

Kim
09-28-2011, 01:08 PM
Honestly the dirty boots girl thing bugs me because I think it's stupid as fuck that he's not killing her because of her gender.

Locke cole
09-28-2011, 01:16 PM
It seems that everyone but Renji himself thinks that it's stupid.

Fifthfiend
09-28-2011, 01:18 PM
Yeah kinda.

Still shipping them though.

Aerozord
09-28-2011, 01:23 PM
Honestly the dirty boots girl thing bugs me because I think it's stupid as fuck that he's not killing her because of her gender.

that doesn't surprise me in and of itself. Japan is about 20 years behind US in gender politics and the US isn't that progressive itself.

Its that Renji is the one acting like that when so far not a single character has ever had issue fighting women. Normally if someone gets slapped with the "dont hit girls" rule its the main character, and Ichigo was recently fighting the exact same girl much the same as he'd fight anyone.

Fifthfiend
09-28-2011, 01:26 PM
It would bother me more if it weren't zero less than the number of dudes Renji's ever managed to kill.

EDIT: It'll probably be a good excuse for Rukia to punch him in the dick a bunch of times in whatever later chapter, that'll be a good time.

Locke cole
09-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Suddenly I am reminded of Edward Elric dealing with a female thief who stole his watch.

"I'm gonna punch her lights out and take it back!"
"You're going to hit a girl?!"
"Of course! I'm not sexist!"

Ryong
10-04-2011, 05:58 PM
"Tite Kubo, how does luck work?"
"I have no fucking idea."

And that's the short version of the latest chapter.

IHateMakingNames
10-04-2011, 06:06 PM
It is a well known medical fact that the body is capable of failing at any given moment.

Kim
10-04-2011, 06:12 PM
Hahaha I just realized that this bad guy has Vriska powers.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-04-2011, 06:22 PM
wait the chapters out now? it's a day early.

phil_
10-04-2011, 07:52 PM
Hahaha I just realized that this bad guy has Vriska powers.He's Vriska.

Yes, I went there.It's like I'm the only one who reads this thread. I don't even know what Vriska is.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-04-2011, 07:56 PM
It's like I'm the only one who reads this thread. I don't even know what Vriska is.

They mean Vriska Serket from MS Paint Adventures.

Token
10-05-2011, 12:24 AM
They mean Vriska Serket from MS Paint Adventures.

Yeah, if he read Homestuck he'd know who Vriska is, so that's absolutely not helpful.

Basically, her powers also involve luck: she drains it from her opponents and takes it for herself, which is helpful because she uses a set of magical dice for weapons. Sort of like Knucklehawk, but debuffing the enemy while buffing herself.

Locke cole
10-05-2011, 09:18 AM
Yeah, this is just weird. His knuckles don't seem to give him lucky hits, just power boosts. I mean, is there really an improbably precise spot he could be punching to break bones with each punch? Really?

Aerozord
10-05-2011, 11:57 AM
actually his power reminds me more of Scarlet Witch. "power over causality and random chance" = "my power does whatever the hell the writer wants it to"

Ecks
10-05-2011, 09:10 PM
And then Ikkaku realizes what he should have known all along: If your sword is broken and you're getting your ass kicked, ditch the useless piece of shit and beat the shit out of the guy with your bare hands. And head.

Aerozord
10-06-2011, 01:15 AM
there was something alittle while ago I realized. The full bring group, minus Orihime, Chad, and at the time Mr power vaccuum. They knew what was going on, they knew Ichigo was just being powered up to steal his power, yea, kind of changes perspective abit

Kim
10-06-2011, 04:25 PM
I just remembered how good Bleach used to be and now I'm really, really mad you guys.

Fifthfiend
10-06-2011, 05:16 PM
Just remind yourself it was never all THAT good.

Kim
10-06-2011, 05:20 PM
I remember when Ichigo would defeat his opponents by reading their fighting styles and figuring out, "Oh, this person's defenses are down for a second after several swings." I remember when any captain could wipe the floor with Ichigo, and it gave the impression that Captains are REALLY FUCKING TOUGH. I remember Ichigo getting a draw with Kenpachi was a power fluke that was the exception to the fact that Ichigo just plain wasn't as powerful as these guys. I remember that even with that momentary ho-shit-powerful bit, Kenpachi was still holding back a LOT for Ichigo to get a draw with him.

I remember all these things that I really liked about Bleach and augh now Current Bleach just feels even worse.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-07-2011, 12:27 AM
In Ichigos defense, those captains are still worlds above him. The only time he was technically stronger was with Final Getsuga. Which is gone now.

I'd say now he's probably only slightly stronger then he was before 3 month training in that deminsonal passageway time skip that was really just an hour in the real world.

Kim
10-07-2011, 01:01 AM
In Ichigos defense, those captains are still worlds above him.

There has been literally nothing whatsoever to suggest this is actually the case and several pieces of evidence to the contrary.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-07-2011, 01:06 AM
He lost his powers. I doubt he got all of it back. Him winning so far with just his shikai can be explained by the consistant fact that in Bleach humans suck, and that none of the captains and Lts fighting right now save for Byakuya, Ikaku, and maybe Rukia if she wins have even used let alone needed there shikai to win their fights.

Based on that it's possible that they are still or atleast now stronger then Ichigo.

BitVyper
10-07-2011, 02:24 AM
I remember when Ichigo would defeat his opponents by reading their fighting styles and figuring out, "Oh, this person's defenses are down for a second after several swings."

Now in fairness, I only read the Soul Society arc, but that's the one everyone says was good, and I gotta say most of what I remember is Ichigo defeating opponents by getting mid-battle power up after power up.

Not to say that's necessarily bad or anything. I'm just saying I never really got the impression that he was a particularly clever fighter like you're suggesting.

Kim
10-07-2011, 03:18 AM
It showed up more then than it does now, but yeah what you're saying is basically true, it's just that it was accompanied with the fact that even with mid-battle powerup he was still weak as shit compared to the big bosses.

Sithdarth
10-07-2011, 06:56 AM
There has been literally nothing whatsoever to suggest this is actually the case and several pieces of evidence to the contrary.

I believe Urahara specifically mentions that one stage of loosing his powers was that the time he spent in training in the Totally Not A Hyperbolic Time Chamber was reversed explaining why he suddenly lost all that grown out hair. Now that being Unohana specifically mentioned at an earlier point before that training that Ichigo already had twice the reiryoku of an average Captain. However, that doesn't necessarily make him a stronger fighter in that the centuries of experience the Captain's have is a significant boost. Of course we have no idea what kind of training went on with them. We also don't know if anything has changed with Ichigo now that he was able to get his sword to teach him a technique without having to beat it out of him.

Kim
10-07-2011, 07:07 AM
Well, Ichigo's stronger now than he was before. He beat Ulqiorra, who was arguably the strongest Espada, depending on whether or not Yami is technically stronger than Ulqiorra after powering up. We can't really know since Ichigo didn't use his powers to punk Yami. Other captains had trouble with their respective Espadas, with a few exceptions to be made for the uberstrong captains. If Ichigo isn't stronger than all of the Captains now, he's most certainly stronger than at least half of them.

Locke cole
10-07-2011, 09:36 AM
Now in fairness, I only read the Soul Society arc, but that's the one everyone says was good, and I gotta say most of what I remember is Ichigo defeating opponents by getting mid-battle power up after power up.

Not to say that's necessarily bad or anything. I'm just saying I never really got the impression that he was a particularly clever fighter like you're suggesting.

There was, well, I remember a fight with that. Against Renji. He realized that his attack pattern with Zabimaru necessitated a short period of vulnerability when he retracted the thing.

And then Renji smacks him in the face anyway because he wasn't fast enough to take advantage of that.

And then he wins anyway by finally pulling off a Getsuga.

Aerozord
10-07-2011, 12:33 PM
Well, Ichigo's stronger now than he was before. He beat Ulqiorra, who was arguably the strongest Espada, depending on whether or not Yami is technically stronger than Ulqiorra after powering up. We can't really know since Ichigo didn't use his powers to punk Yami. Other captains had trouble with their respective Espadas, with a few exceptions to be made for the uberstrong captains. If Ichigo isn't stronger than all of the Captains now, he's most certainly stronger than at least half of them.
If I recall, he only beat him thanks to going hollow crazy again.
I believe Urahara specifically mentions that one stage of loosing his powers was that the time he spent in training in the Totally Not A Hyperbolic Time Chamber was reversed explaining why he suddenly lost all that grown out hair. Now that being Unohana specifically mentioned at an earlier point before that training that Ichigo already had twice the reiryoku of an average Captain. However, that doesn't necessarily make him a stronger fighter in that the centuries of experience the Captain's have is a significant boost. Of course we have no idea what kind of training went on with them. We also don't know if anything has changed with Ichigo now that he was able to get his sword to teach him a technique without having to beat it out of him.

Lack of training has been shown in the series to matter. Chad even commented that his lack of experience was his greatest weakness, most obvious in his fight with Ikkaku. Another example was Ichigo and Renji's fights with Byakuya. Just because you have bankai, doesn't mean you know how to use it well.

Locke cole
10-07-2011, 01:12 PM
Ichigo's Hollow knows how to use his Bankai much better than Ichigo does.

Actually, he seems to consistently know how to fight much better than Ichigo.

Ecks
10-07-2011, 07:12 PM
You could argue a case that his Hollow has super murder skills.
Also no conscience skills, making super versions of regular attacks skills, and being in control of his empathic weapon's true form skills.

Zanpakutou only want masters with great skills.

Grimpond
10-12-2011, 11:14 AM
Ikkaku one more continues to become better and better!
:cool:
So cool.

Tsukishima has physically hurt me.

Like, am I reading this right? we're using this situation again?

Byakuya: Does your power work with inorganic matter as well?

Tsukishima: "Well, I don't remember saying....That it doesn't"

Really, titty kubo?

Aerozord
10-12-2011, 01:13 PM
what Ikkaku said loses alot of its weight when you remember Kenpachi probably wouldn't care either

Locke cole
10-12-2011, 01:13 PM
Yeah.

When did Tsukishima's power take on the lack-of-limitations that One Piece characters have?

phil_
10-12-2011, 01:32 PM
Heh, he went all Bill and Ted on Captain Not-Rukia.When did Tsukishima's power take on the lack-of-limitations that One Piece characters have?When they stole Kamen Rider Ichigo's powers.

Locke cole
10-12-2011, 01:44 PM
Tsukishima got nothing from Ichigo. This is all him.

Ecks
10-12-2011, 01:54 PM
Since Kubo has marked Tsukishima for being Aizen's successor.

Locke cole
10-12-2011, 02:02 PM
All things considered though, that is a scarily creative use of his power, though I question how legitimate the "I cut your sword, so now I remember seeing all of its tricks" thing is.

Also, does it really matter if he knows what's coming, if he can't avoid it? I mean, I don't think there's much of anything he could do if Byakuya busts out his Bankai and uses its full-power mode.

Aerozord
10-12-2011, 02:04 PM
That whole exchange seemed stupid to me. Lets remember Renji also fought the captain with the "I have seen your moves a thousand times" thing, but it wasn't enough to overcome how much better he was. Though what will upset me most is that he didn't go bankai out of the gate.

My bet is he'll be cut, but it wont change anything because Byakuya is completely fine with killing people he's close to remember?

Grimpond
10-12-2011, 02:19 PM
what Ikkaku said loses alot of its weight when you remember Kenpachi probably wouldn't care either

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk282/lordofchaos34/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-just-chillin.jpg

Fifthfiend
10-12-2011, 03:06 PM
All things considered though, that is a scarily creative use of his power, though I question how legitimate the "I cut your sword, so now I remember seeing all of its tricks" thing is.

Also, does it really matter if he knows what's coming, if he can't avoid it? I mean, I don't think there's much of anything he could do if Byakuya busts out his Bankai and uses its full-power mode.

"Oh you KNOW my moves, well"

*traps dude in universe made of swords*

*stabs dude with universe made of swords*

"WELP"

Ryong
10-12-2011, 03:14 PM
That and even if he for some stupid reason becomes able to dodge everything because...Because, Byakuya is still aces with kido.

Locke cole
10-12-2011, 03:20 PM
Oh right. Byakuya could use that golden triangle thing to paralyze him, and then White Lightning him in the face.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-12-2011, 05:01 PM
Well, I'm honestly suprised Tsukushima could troll EVERYTHING his sword touches. That's a bit annoying to fight against.

Aerozord
10-12-2011, 08:10 PM
I want to know why he doesn't just
*stabs the earth*
ok, I'm God now

Kyanbu The Legend
10-13-2011, 01:04 AM
I want to know why he doesn't just
*stabs the earth*
ok, I'm God now

Since when were you under the impression he didn't do it?

Seriously though, if it happens the universe will hate you forever.

Ecks
10-13-2011, 02:17 AM
Oh right. Byakuya could use that golden triangle thing to paralyze him, and then White Lightning him in the face.

You're forgetting that wonderful little number called Bakudou 61: Rikujokorou.

Pin him in between six bars of light and then decapitate. Can't dodge if you can't MOVE.

Doc ock rokc
10-13-2011, 02:41 AM
So this douchebag has the ability to effect the "narrative" of anything he cuts...interesting

But wait flower power's sword is in thousands of shards he would not have control of every one! Unless he interjected his "history" to before it was...god damnit i made myself cross-eyed

Aerozord
10-13-2011, 02:54 AM
actually, why the hell is he even bothering with these people. As he showed with Ichigo actual combat power doesn't really help when you have the world on your side. Despite what shonen anime preach your ability to fight isn't the only way to be powerful. This guy could be mind-raping heads of corporations, world leaders, mafia bosses. Remember you dont remember him attacking you.

In many ways his power is better then Aizen's because its retroactive. All that plotting that Aizen did over centuries he could do with one cut. Attack someone close to Bill Gates, cut Mr. Gates, remind him of that 5 billion he owes you. Similar to world leader, get close, cut, hey I'm your most trusted adviser. Just touch on it lightly so you can justify not showing up sooner, bide your time and boom, ruler of the world

Kyanbu The Legend
10-13-2011, 03:47 AM
There must be something preventing him from attempting it.

h4x.m4g3
10-14-2011, 03:00 PM
I don't know why but I just remembered, Zanpaktou have minds of their own instead of just being dumb swords. I'm not sure what kind of relationship Byakuya has with his sword, but could he have made the sword itself not want to attack him, or will the sword go 'I love how you've been gloating about changing my past so here's something I know [because I'm smart] you've never seen'. Also depending on how much of the past he can alter, could he make the sword never reveal it's bankai to Bayakuya, making it so he never become a captain?

Just a crazy thought I randomly had and can't verbalize coherently.

Donomni
10-19-2011, 11:53 AM
How To Fight Shonen Characters: Turn them into a stuffed monkey.

Surprisingly effective.

Locke cole
10-19-2011, 12:13 PM
...Tsukishima, stop being so very Aizen about your power. The man has an utterly broken ability, but he is being such a dumbass about how to use it. Look at it this way; ever since his power was explained, we've heard him talked about as being able to win the fight with one decisive cut, because then he can wrewrite your history into him being your best friend, whom you'd never dream of attacking. And so here, he's used a couple of variants on that power to get within Byakuya's range and give him that decisive cut.

And instead of making Byakuya his personal fawning lickspittle, he makes it so that he's told him the range of his sword's power?

He honestly thought that gaining a combat advantage, one that Byakuya is probably going to subvert by being utterly reckless and getting healed later, was a better idea than winning outright?

That is just a total dumbass move!

phil_
10-19-2011, 01:27 PM
And instead of making Byakuya his personal fawning lickspittle, he makes it so that he's told him the range of his sword's power?Maybe he just really, really feels like having a good sword fight? Like, it's not often that you get to fight a dude with a sword, regardless of how common comics make it seem. He's not gonna get to use his hax like this again for a long time; may as well enjoy it.

And, while we're talking about sword fighting:"Senkei... and even Goukei... will not work on you?"

"Not even your Hakuteiken."I don't know what these words meeeean!:wtf: Then I googled it, but still.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche
10-19-2011, 01:39 PM
And, while we're talking about sword fighting:I don't know what these words meeeean!:wtf: Then I googled it, but still.

Thing, other thing and the biggest thing.

Aerozord
10-19-2011, 02:32 PM
(completely valid complaints)
this isn't really an Aizen thing, its a shonen character thing. Its exposition for the readers sake. But your point about him not just mind raping him into his best friend there is no excuse because we have seen him do it before. its not only something he can do, its his usual tactic.


And, while we're talking about sword fighting:I don't know what these words meeeean!

I think Senkei was his sword dimension thing, Goukei was his pink butterfly attack and we haven't seen Hakuteiken.

Locke cole
10-19-2011, 02:34 PM
Senkei is the arena of swords, which allows him to grab one and use it to kill the enemy with his own hands.

Goukei is the gigantic sphere of blade-petals that surrounds the enemy and collapses inward (By the way, that's bullshit. How could he avoid that?)

Hakuteiken is when he condenses all the bankai petals into one enormous sword of extreme power, and a giant pair of wings which he uses for flight.

phil_
10-19-2011, 04:12 PM
But your point about him not just mind raping him into his best friend there is no excuse because we have seen him do it before. its not only something he can do, its his usual tactic.Ok, let's say you have a post office box that you have to check every day, and it's far enough away that you have to drive there. Everyday, you hop in your car, drive to the post office, then go straight back home.

But, one day, the mayor hits your name on his dartboard and declares it "No traffic laws, but only Aerozord gets to drive" day. You gotta go get the mail on "NtlboAgtd" Day, just like every day. But, are you gonna drive out there, get the mail, then drive straight back, as is your usual tactic? Hell no, you're gonna haul ass around town for no good reason and do donuts and stuff because you're never gonna get to do this again.

Today is Swordfight Day for Tsukishima.

Fifthfiend
10-19-2011, 04:39 PM
Rukia is the only one who remembers what this story is about.

.

Sithdarth
10-19-2011, 04:57 PM
Also the very valid point was raised that Byakuya could give two shits about killing a friend that broke pretty much any law for which the punishment is death. I mean he was going to kill his little sister who he adopted because she looks like the love of his life. There is absolutely no way you can get a closer relationship than that. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't stop him and that Tsukishima realized that the instant he cut him. Although he might have picked that much up from cutting Chad and Orihime.

Fifthfiend
10-19-2011, 05:06 PM
Also the very valid point was raised that Byakuya could give two shits about killing a friend that broke pretty much any law for which the punishment is death. I mean he was going to kill his little sister who he adopted because she looks like the love of his life. There is absolutely no way you can get a closer relationship than that. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't stop him and that Tsukishima realized that the instant he cut him. Although he might have picked that much up from cutting Chad and Orihime.

The problem with this is that it requires you to believe that Tite Kubo deliberately had a character 1. do something intelligent, and 2. not spell it out in excruciating detail and then congratulate himself on his cleverness.

Aerozord
10-19-2011, 05:08 PM
Today is Swordfight Day for Tsukishima.
I understand this reason, and its possible, but it would still be stupid. How often do bad guys lose for this reason. A bookworm like him should know better.
Also the very valid point was raised that Byakuya could give two shits about killing a friend that broke pretty much any law for which the punishment is death. I mean he was going to kill his little sister who he adopted because she looks like the love of his life. There is absolutely no way you can get a closer relationship than that. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't stop him and that Tsukishima realized that the instant he cut him. Although he might have picked that much up from cutting Chad and Orihime.

why not do both, the reason he sparred so much was he was his best friend. I mean worst case is they still fight but it couldn't hurt. Though, possible he did do that.

What I dont get is why Byakuya doesn't know this. He inserted himself into his past so shouldn't Byakuya have memories of hanging out with him? Why the explanation?

IHateMakingNames
10-19-2011, 05:20 PM
Also the very valid point was raised that Byakuya could give two shits about killing a friend that broke pretty much any law for which the punishment is death.
So Tsukishima makes it so that he didn't break a law.

The point is that no matter what the fight between the two people who look the exact same during all the close up head shots is going to end in a disappointing way.

Ecks
10-19-2011, 05:39 PM
....and both Kuchikis are getting their asses handed to them.

What the actual fuck, guys? Tsukishima should've fallen to Senbonzakura Kageyoshi. Why the hell did he not go all out right from the get- oh wait, I'm reading shounen.

Sithdarth
10-19-2011, 06:00 PM
So Tsukishima makes it so that he didn't break a law.


I'm pretty sure that would be the kind of change that would be so obvious that the person would be able to break it. Kind of like Orihime and Chad were starting to do. There does seem to be limits on what he can do. If he goes to far it can be resisted and the results of the resisting seems to depend on how strong the will of the person is.

Which makes me think of something else. Perhaps Byakuya's will is so strong and he is so focused on what is going on now that any attempt to modify his history like that would auto fail.


What I dont get is why Byakuya doesn't know this. He inserted himself into his past so shouldn't Byakuya have memories of hanging out with him? Why the explanation?

I think part of the ability is that he has to talk to them. Cutting is the way in but it doesn't activate until he says something and wills it to happen.

Aerozord
10-19-2011, 09:11 PM
I'm pretty sure that would be the kind of change that would be so obvious that the person would be able to break it. Kind of like Orihime and Chad were starting to do.

yea and he practically kills them, I dont see a downside to doing it unless you need long term pawns

Sithdarth
10-19-2011, 09:34 PM
yea and he practically kills them, I dont see a downside to doing it unless you need long term pawns

That would be covered here:

If he goes to far it can be resisted and the results of the resisting seems to depend on how strong the will of the person is.


Weaker less disciplined minds (aka humans) means self destruction. Stronger disciplined and less emotional minds (aka Byakuya) means simply resisting the power all together.

Aerozord
10-19-2011, 09:55 PM
Weaker less disciplined minds (aka humans) means self destruction. Stronger disciplined and less emotional minds (aka Byakuya) means simply resisting the power all together.

what are you basing this on though, only people that resisted at all were Orihime and Chad

Sithdarth
10-19-2011, 10:03 PM
what are you basing this on though, only people that resisted at all were Orihime and Chad

1) Well it makes logical sense (Ya I know that when dealing with Tite Kubo this is kind of absurd).

2) There is precedence for force of will stopping an otherwise broken power. Soi Fon and her two strike kill. Anything Orihime has ever done. Kenpachi causing other people to get cut when they hit him from shear force of will. Kido is repeatedly broken through shear force of will and power. So it isn't unheard of for things like that to happen.

Kyanbu The Legend
10-27-2011, 02:03 PM
New chapter.

I'm kinda glad that ginjou will last awhile longer. I wonder if he has all of ichigo's move set. And I'm convinced that ichigo lost his bankai. Though maybe Its too soon to say that. And Riruka is still adorable and potentially deadly with that power to turn people into dolls.

CABAL49
10-27-2011, 03:00 PM
And then they all fucked.

Aerozord
10-27-2011, 05:05 PM
New chapter.

I'm kinda glad that ginjou will last awhile longer. I wonder if he has all of ichigo's move set. And I'm convinced that ichigo lost his bankai. Though maybe Its too soon to say that. And Riruka is still adorable and potentially deadly with that power to turn people into dolls.

not like he had alot of moves to begin with, he had what, two?

Kyanbu The Legend
10-28-2011, 02:40 AM
5+ If you count the variants of said moves.

Ryong
11-02-2011, 09:26 AM
New chapter.

IT'S BACKSTORY TIME, FOLKS!

Aerozord
11-02-2011, 11:22 AM
Actually I find it rather amusing that Riruka's "tragedy" is basically she was just a bratty kid that didn't get what she wanted.

Locke cole
11-02-2011, 11:38 AM
Some of those backstories were actually interesting, and I liked how it explained the name "dirty boots".

Aerozord
11-02-2011, 11:56 AM
I am not sure I get what the psychology is here. It sounds to me like he basically told them that power doesn't matter, numbers do, and they should try and turn it around so the few rule instead. Playing on their insecurities, making them feel weak and pathetic to better manipulate them.

Though none of that makes much sense. Yea for those brief moments the many overpower the few, but it does ignore that at all other times the majority is ruled by the ruling elite around the world for the entirety of human existence. While the majority allows the few to rule and can change their mind, doesn't change the fact they are in charge.

phil_
11-02-2011, 12:28 PM
So, uh, is Riruka gonna blow herself up or what? Did I miss something? Do her expressions as a little kid make the chapter worth reading by themselves? Should Kubo just turn this into "The Rukia and Riruka Show: starring Rukia and Riruka?"

Oh, right, and the psychology is "Ginjou is a manipulative slime ball who doesn't understand ecology."

Locke cole
11-02-2011, 12:40 PM
I'll just say it. With those two in the same room, I have to make a continual effort to not call one of them "Rirukia". Why do their names have to be so similar?

By the way, I guess Girko is like that situation Death Note brought up about a "normal" person getting his hands on death power. Would use it once, to see if it was actually real, and then get scared and try not to use it again.

Of course, then Ginjou happened.

Kyanbu The Legend
11-02-2011, 01:23 PM
Riruka seems to be the least currupt of the group. Was kind of hoping that we'd see how Ginjou and The Troll King Tsukushima brainwashed everyone into being their personal army. But I guess we'll find out eventually.

I wonder what that power Riruka used on Rukia was.

phil_
11-02-2011, 02:31 PM
Was kind of hoping that we'd see how Ginjou and The Troll King Tsukushima brainwashed everyone into being their personal army.You did.

"Ginou here, and are you tired of being all scared and alone? Wish that special power of yours could make you happy? Well, with this limited time offer, you can join me and Facebook in being predators instead of prey! Join now, and I'll even throw in Soul Reaper powers at no additional cost! Call now and start using your powers today!"

Aerozord
11-09-2011, 02:15 PM
ok I got mixed feelings about this. I mean it does make sense, he knows all the moves you trained with so use something you dont train with, hand to hand combat. Sure it was augmented but its still hand to hand. On the other hand the only reason his untrained skill worked was because he was so much faster and stronger that he simply overwhelmed him, something he should have been able to do with his sword attacks and kido.

Locke cole
11-09-2011, 03:11 PM
I have no qualms about this. Byakuya did just what I thought: counter his knowledge of that zone by being reckless witht he blades anyway. And when that backfired, he just blew the smiling bastard's chest open with something he didn't expect.

Today is a good day.

Fifthfiend
11-09-2011, 03:31 PM
Dirty Boots is the best boots.

Kyanbu The Legend
11-09-2011, 05:46 PM
Calling it now, Riruka fused with Rukia.

Locke cole
11-09-2011, 09:49 PM
Rirukia.

phil_
11-16-2011, 01:32 PM
No. No, Ginjou. You've done this, like, three times already. You're a bad guy; deal with it.

Aerozord
11-16-2011, 01:34 PM
so he wasn't an idiot and did make it so him and Byakuya were bestest buddies forever, and like we thought he killed him anyways because Ichigo didn't like the guy.

...wait, what?

Kim
11-16-2011, 01:43 PM
Riruka is inside Rukia and Ginjou's going to reveal some stupid aspect of Soul Society past wherein they're total fuckwads, and Ichigo's not going to give a fuck till after he defeats Ginjou.

Arcanum
11-16-2011, 01:48 PM
I have it all figured out!!! The real bad guy is the King of Soul Society, and they're going to have to free Aizen so he can help them make a key to enter the King's realm because he was actually a misguided good guy all along, and Orihime will get captured again, and they will invade the King's realm and everything will be back to the same old dumb Bleach that we know and love

phil_
11-16-2011, 01:54 PM
so he wasn't an idiot and did make it so him and Byakuya were bestest buddies forever, and like we thought he killed him anyways because Ichigo didn't like the guy.

...wait, what?I was gonna say, "Well, Ichigo did save his little sister when he couldn't because of HONOR," but then I remembered that Tsukishima did that.

So, now I'm going to say that one day during the last year, while Rukia and Byakuya were painting each other's nails and talking about what boys they like, Ichigo's name came up and now he has to keep Ichigo alive for Rukia's sake. Yeah, that'll work.

Edit: I thought Ginjou's power was swapping powers. If everyone can do it, then is his power just lolsword?

Locke cole
11-16-2011, 02:09 PM
Lolexplosionsword, but yeah.

Arcanum
11-16-2011, 02:29 PM
I was under the impression Ginjou was just a substitute shinigami and that any fullbring powers he has he got from someone else, and that his sword is just some zanpaktou-fullbring hybrid sword at this point.

Kyanbu The Legend
11-17-2011, 02:51 AM
It is safe to say that byakuya made himself believe ahead of time that no matter who it is. Anyone that is an enemy of ichigo is his enemy.

And I am still betting on riruka merging with rukia.

IHateMakingNames
11-17-2011, 09:04 AM
Tsukishima just made it so they trained a lot together. The whole time they were still talking like enemies. The debt owed was that Tsuki made Byakuya punch him through the chest. Byakua apparently enjoyed that.

Regardless it was all stupid.

Ecks
11-23-2011, 06:09 PM
So a whole bunch of shit suddenly makes sense now. Or appears to make sense. Now we know why Ichigo's bankai has been SOOOOOO SLOWWWWWWWWW, why his spiritual pressure post-Bankai acquisition did not seem to adversely affect his "normal" friends all that much, how Soul Society seemed to know exactly what was going on with him and where he generally was (though you could argue all they had to do was scan for spiritual pressure anyway), and a whole mess of other things.

Also, the "truth" was not nearly as mind blowing as he was making it out to believe. Like, seriously? Not really all that big of a betrayal. At least I don't see it as such.

EVILNess
11-23-2011, 06:16 PM
Also, the "truth" was not nearly as mind blowing as he was making it out to believe. Like, seriously? Not really all that big of a betrayal. At least I don't see it as such.

Which is probably why Ichigo doesn't really seem too freaked out.

Ecks
11-23-2011, 06:28 PM
Yeah, I figured going bankai was basically amounting to "OKAY, I'VE HEARD ENOUGH, SHUT THE HELL UP!"

Seriously. Ichigo knew the score with SS before he even waltzed in there. You'd think Ginjou would've done his homework.

Aerozord
11-23-2011, 06:37 PM
is it really that bad? I mean his spiritual pressure running amok was a huge problem. It drew ghosts and hollows, forcibly activated peoples dormant powers, even threatened his life multiple times and all of that was before he even got shikai. How is suppressing it in human form bad?

It is implied they do this when he is a soul reaper too, but all the others of his power level have it suppressed for similar reasons too. Even barring all that it makes sense to keep tabs on him. Take the government for example, ally or not every nation tries to keep tabs on each other. None of this seems malicious, deceitful yes, but if they viewed Ichigo as a likely threat why restore his powers at all.

Ryong
11-23-2011, 07:08 PM
They have all these power limiters when they exit SS, it only makes sense he can't run around at full power.

Arcanum
11-23-2011, 07:39 PM
Yeah since he's not part of a squad he doesn't have one of those flower-tattoo power limiters so the badge is a way around that. And they store and analyze his reiatsu so they know how to take him out if he ever becomes a problem. This is all very sane and logical and as of right now I don't get why Ginjou and Isshin (and Urahara I guess but he seemed rather nonchalant about Ichigo finding out) are making a big deal out of this.

Unless that's the catch. Since everything in Bleach is usually so stupid, the one thing that is actually sane and makes sense is what is evil and horrible and stupid in the bleachverse.

Kyanbu The Legend
11-23-2011, 09:12 PM
It doesn't seem like ichigo's going to even buy it anyway.

Ecks
11-23-2011, 11:48 PM
I just think he doesn't give a shit either way. It could very well be true, but how the fuck does that affect him? Half of those Captains rebelled on his behalf (or on behalf of his mission) in the first place, the badge was essentially just a necessary precaution. Ginjou seems to live in this world where OMG SOMEONE WITHHELD SOMETHING FROM ME, IT'S SUCH A BETRAYAL, I'M SO FUCKING IMPORTANT THAT I DESERVE SPECIAL PRIVILEGES, FUCK THE FACT THAT SOUL SOCIETY HAS ENTIRE DIMENSIONS TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT, I'M SO ABOVE ALL THAT I DESERVE PRIORITY ATTENTION WAAAAAAAH.

Arcanum
11-24-2011, 12:17 AM
I just think he doesn't give a shit either way. It could very well be true, but how the fuck does that affect him? Half of those Captains rebelled on his behalf (or on behalf of his mission) in the first place, the badge was essentially just a necessary precaution. Ginjou seems to live in this world where OMG SOMEONE WITHHELD SOMETHING FROM ME, IT'S SUCH A BETRAYAL, I'M SO FUCKING IMPORTANT THAT I DESERVE SPECIAL PRIVILEGES, FUCK THE FACT THAT SOUL SOCIETY HAS ENTIRE DIMENSIONS TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT, I'M SO ABOVE ALL THAT I DESERVE PRIORITY ATTENTION WAAAAAAAH.

Considering he siphoned some of the power from all the fullbringers he recruited so that his special powers were even more special, I'm pretty sure what you wrote is 100% correct.

Aerozord
11-24-2011, 12:20 AM
I think most important thing is his entire argument is based on, that Ichigo shouldn't ally with soul society because they lied to him. Forgetting of course that by that logic Ichigo shouldn't ally himself with Ginjou either.

Ecks
11-24-2011, 12:25 AM
Ginjou confirmed for somehow being an even bigger whiner than that kid with the vriskaknuckles.

Kyanbu The Legend
11-24-2011, 12:42 AM
I think we can all agree on that.

Locke cole
11-24-2011, 12:44 AM
Well, that does explain why his Bankai went from "hit friggin' Byakuya twice in the time it takes one Getsuga to fly" to "haha, what was that? You're so slow!"

Arcanum
11-24-2011, 12:58 AM
I really hope this means we get super-speed bankai Ichigo back soon, so then when he beats a guy it can be through actual skill and not the power of friendship or whatever. Although technically if he gets his super-speed bankai back, it would be because he's friends with Soul Society, so anyone he beats with it he would technically be beating with the power of friendship.

Kyanbu The Legend
11-24-2011, 01:01 AM
You know what... I think I can live with that.

Aerozord
11-24-2011, 03:20 AM
it would be because he's friends with Soul Society, so anyone he beats with it he would technically be beating with the power of friendship.

I dont know, Ichigo seems to use the secrete inner power trope more. Guy just barely manages to avoid deus ex mechina territory, and thats only because Kubo is a master of foreshadowing. Only time I can think of that he won with a straight up power of friendship, was his fight with grimjoww

Returning to his old super speed self would probably be the first time since his fight with Renji that he won by being the better fighter.

Kyanbu The Legend
11-24-2011, 03:32 AM
I'm all for it if it means the fights will get better.

Locke cole
11-24-2011, 08:41 AM
Master of foreshadowing? I dunno. Eiichiro Oda is a master of foreshadowing. I can't prove it, but I think that Kubo is more a master of making things look like foreshadowing.

Like, didn't he admit that he didn't come up with the whole "Aizen is the real traitor" thing until after Momo found Aizen's crucified corpse?

Aerozord
11-24-2011, 07:49 PM
I dunno. Eiichiro Oda is a master of foreshadowing.

no he isn't, his writing style is to come up with a bunch of arc ideas and just jam them in where ever. In fact he once stated he has to abandon most of them because the series would never end otherwise. You can see alot of plot holes that keep cropping up because of it, basically anything having to do with Ace for example. Not that its bad, for One Piece it works great because while there is a goal there isn't really an over arching plot.

Though you might be right and Kubo is just as bad or even worse. But be it just well done retcons or legitimate foreshadowing, he does handle it well. Maybe he is just looking for an excuse as to why Ichigo's speed tanked so he can boost him back up, I wont be complaining.

Locke cole
11-24-2011, 08:21 PM
So, Oda is to story arcs as Kubo is to characters.

Fifthfiend
11-26-2011, 07:33 PM
I'm all for it if it means the fights will get better.

Pretty much all there is to say on the matter

Fifthfiend
11-26-2011, 07:37 PM
I dont know, Ichigo seems to use the secrete inner power trope more. Guy just barely manages to avoid deus ex mechina territory, and thats only because Kubo is a master of foreshadowing. Only time I can think of that he won with a straight up power of friendship, was his fight with grimjoww

Returning to his old super speed self would probably be the first time since his fight with Renji that he won by being the better fighter.

idk if making your main character shitty for like three years or something so you can turn around and go no see he was shitty ON PURPOSEmkes you a master of anything aside from being dumb for a real long time and then eventually getting around to indicating that you might be done being dumb

Sithdarth
11-30-2011, 11:52 AM
So apparently Ichigo has gone SSJ 3 for real this time. The force of his spirtual pressure during Bankai release being enough to destroy the unbreakable pocket dimension. This bodes ill for any hopes of intersting fights.

Kim
11-30-2011, 11:57 AM
swoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooords

Arcanum
11-30-2011, 12:29 PM
Ichigo has ascended to Sephichigoth and makes all the fan girlies squeal.

Locke cole
11-30-2011, 12:35 PM
Whatever else I think about Bleach, I'm still a sucker for moments when the hero just tells the villain giving a big "soul-crushing" lecture to stop talking.

EVILNess
11-30-2011, 12:40 PM
Is that some kind of cutlass-katana?

phil_
11-30-2011, 01:16 PM
Is that some kind of cutlass-katana?Ichigo got him one'a them there wall-hangin' swords. Not much good for fightin' with. Right purty, though.

Ichi's reasoning was pretty fun to read. Ginjou looks freaking ridiculous.

Aerozord
11-30-2011, 05:43 PM
One thing I like about Ichigo is when he isn't a genius, he isn't the cliche idiot protagonist either. But sure does seem like everyone thinks he is.

I do think his sword looks abit cooler but thats not saying much. Not as into the new outfit.

Ginjou's just looks silly

Donomni
11-30-2011, 10:20 PM
Ginjou kinda looks like Sabretooth now.

Ecks
11-30-2011, 11:09 PM
Is that some kind of cutlass-katana?

Seems more like a falchion to me, but what do I know?

Also, where the fuck did Ginjou get his bankai? Seriously, the whole "I have Ichigo's reiatsu so that means I have all his powers" thing is bullshit. Unless that's Ginjou's own bankai just Ichi-flavored.

Aerozord
11-30-2011, 11:16 PM
Seems more like a falchion to me, but what do I know?

Also, where the fuck did Ginjou get his bankai? Seriously, the whole "I have Ichigo's reiatsu so that means I have all his powers" thing is bullshit. Unless that's Ginjou's own bankai just Ichi-flavored.

I think its Ichigo's fullbring + legit bankai. I do wonder how he got it though. Ichigo cheated to get his, and Ginjou didn't look old enough to get it normally

Kyanbu The Legend
11-30-2011, 11:57 PM
Ginjou's fullbring may have been his Zanpaktou all along. In which case him having a Bankai makes sense and backs up his claim that Ichigo and Uryu can't do much to him.

Sithdarth
12-01-2011, 12:15 AM
and backs up his claim that Ichigo and Uryu can't do much to him.

I'm pretty sure Ichigo has yet to even begin to tap into the massive stores of power Kubo has dreamed up now.

CABAL49
12-07-2011, 04:53 PM
I get the feeling Ginjou could have been an interesting villain if he was written better.

IHateMakingNames
12-07-2011, 05:02 PM
I get the feeling Ginjou could have been an interesting villain if he was written better.
Well, his motivation for turning evil was that Soul Society wanted to keep tabs on their human representative. Maybe if he had a new back story.

phil_
12-07-2011, 05:17 PM
Yes! We're finally getting off Fishman Island and going to the New World!

Wait, wrong comic.

Ginjou continues to disappoint, as he has since he proved to have nothing to do with ramen.

Aerozord
12-07-2011, 05:57 PM
Actually I think his reasons were rather valid, they just said that their plan was to use whoever came along as the next substitute and kill them both. Ginjou wasn't wrong about their intents, they just changed.

Fifthfiend
12-07-2011, 06:08 PM
Another boring shitty fight.

Oh well.

Sithdarth
12-07-2011, 06:09 PM
Its starting to look a little like Kubo is going to suddenly decide the Isshin was totally sent to the living world specifically to father a child capable of becoming the next substitute shinigami in order to lure out and kill the last one.

Kim
12-07-2011, 06:44 PM
Wow this chapter was dull. Like, amazingly dull. I am impressed at how boring Kubo managed to make it.

Fifthfiend
12-07-2011, 06:46 PM
A lesser hack would have slipped and done something interesting by accident.

Aerozord
12-14-2011, 01:29 PM
oh this chapter was so stock, so lacking in actual story progression just, ugh

Locke cole
12-14-2011, 01:38 PM
It's like a Matryoshka doll of pointless sacrifices!

Arcanum
12-14-2011, 02:49 PM
Next time on a very special episode of Bleach: FLASHBACKS (AGAIN)!

IHateMakingNames
12-14-2011, 02:58 PM
Self-reflection then his own flashback chapter? Ginjou is super dead.

Ecks
12-14-2011, 09:45 PM
Yay another flashback

Aerozord
12-15-2011, 03:35 AM
Its starting to look a little like Kubo is going to suddenly decide the Isshin was totally sent to the living world specifically to father a child capable of becoming the next substitute shinigami in order to lure out and kill the last one.

I just realized an issue though, he's not that old by the looks of it. Isshin has been on earth for like 40 years, even if he got there just before Ichigo was born thats still 16 and Ginjou to me looked to be in his late 20's

Sithdarth
12-15-2011, 12:23 PM
We just saw an obviously 20 something or so Ginjou talking to a maybe 10 year old Tsukishima. Even if it was before Ginjou stopped being a substitute Tsukishima is now probably mid to late 20s. If we assume say 28 for Tsukishima that gives them more than enough time to contact Isshin (assuming he was already in the living world) and be all like we need a favor. I think I might be overestimating Tsukishima's age when he met Ginjou as well. Any way you look at it given that panel where those two met there is almost no chance the Ginjou isn't almost 40. Of course this is Bleach and no one ever ages properly in Bleach.

phil_
12-26-2011, 12:49 PM
Yay no flashback! Yay people not dying when they are killed! Yay for hugs all around!

Now we can all hunt ghosts together.

Locke cole
12-26-2011, 01:05 PM
Wait. Tsukishima didn't die, but all his friend requests brainwashings faded anyway?

Aerozord
12-26-2011, 01:23 PM
Wait. Tsukishima didn't die, but all his friend requests brainwashings faded anyway?

maybe it was the overload, or he did it voluntarily?

But hey some people actually died, and Ichigo did the killing for a change.

This still was wildly uninteresting and I accept it only because he need to get the post-arc wrap up to move on and I'd rather this be one chapter then an extended epilogue of an arc I think we all grew bored of chapters ago

IHateMakingNames
12-26-2011, 01:27 PM
I wasn't a fan of the arc (assuming it's near done). It was just a way to explain why Ichigo gets his powers back, but he introduced a whole new power dealie and characters we'll never see again while not being long to be a real arc but not being short enough to just get Ichigo his powers back. It feels like a Filler arc.

Kim
12-26-2011, 01:32 PM
It's over, and thank fuck for that. In terms of filler arcs, it is the least terrible filler arc to grace Bleach, with the obvious exception of anything related to the Karakura Rider stuff, but it still got really shitty near the end.

Fifthfiend
12-26-2011, 04:16 PM
It could have been a good arc if the last fight hadn't been shit, but then the last fight was shit, so it wasn't a good arc.

...I can't even really be glad it's over since it's just a reversion to the baseline shittasticness of everything in Bleach since Aizen took off his glasses.

At the beginning it looked like it might be crawling out of that crap pit but then it was like "but it's so warm and cozy in all of that shit" and slid right back on in.

Kyanbu The Legend
01-10-2012, 07:57 PM
So new chapter tommorrow. Anyone waiting to see the start of the new arc?

... What...? I'm still reading it... don't judge me...

Sithdarth
01-11-2012, 09:02 AM
... What...? I'm still reading it... don't judge me...

I still read Naruto despite the fact it's begun to completely ignore all the power limitations it put into place so don't feel bad.

Also, apparently Bleach is now on a 3 week break so there is that. At least Ichigo did something awesome by just strolling into Soul Society like a pimp and scaring the shit out of everyone. Also, it seems the empty captain seats have finally been filled.

phil_
01-11-2012, 12:14 PM
Ok, I'll read one more chapter. If it's the start of a rescue Riruka arc, I'll keep reading.

Aerozord
01-11-2012, 06:27 PM
I like how we see what happened with the vizards, worried they'd just be kind of forgotten. Also, still in abit of disbelieve that we have confirmed, Ichigo killed a human

Ecks
01-11-2012, 10:20 PM
What, no one caught the "he is just a mere shinigami representative" line? Or the "I'm assuming that phrasing was deliberate?" from yamamoto?

Guys something is gonna happen in three weeks. Something big.

IHateMakingNames
01-11-2012, 10:23 PM
Guys something is gonna happen in three weeks. Something big.
Flashback.

Locke cole
01-11-2012, 10:31 PM
Wait, did Riruka jump from the building?

Or did she jump into the stratosphere?

What I'm asking is: was this suicide? I can't quite tell, but the upward streak of black seems to suggest no.

Kyanbu The Legend
01-11-2012, 11:30 PM
It may have been that. Though she could have just flash stepped away. But since the fullbringers lost there powers, Its most likely that she jumped and Kubo just censored it.

Ryong
01-11-2012, 11:48 PM
But since the fullbringers lost there powers

Wait, what? That was clearly a fullbring jump, the same we've been seeing them use for a while.

IHateMakingNames
01-12-2012, 09:18 AM
They show her foot above one of those little air circles that Kubo uses to show air jumping.

Locke cole
01-12-2012, 11:08 AM
Thanks. I wanted to make sure I had the right of it.

greed
01-30-2012, 08:19 AM
So everyone else hear the interview info about the Espada?

In short

Definitely coming back: Nel and Co, Grimmjow

Alive but probably not reappearing: Halibel

Maybe alive if Kubo feels like it/ can't think of a better plot/fan polls beg for it : Starrk (YES!), Nnoitora and wait for it ZOMARRI.

My horrifying guess? The only reason to bring back Zomarri, the only motivation for him to come back? He was Aizen's most fanatical follower. Zomarri's gonna spring Aizen from super ghost gaol.

Locke cole
01-30-2012, 09:04 AM
...But the dude, like, disintegrated.

Ryong
01-31-2012, 06:58 PM
I can't remember, what happens to hollows who die?

Also, I should've seen Grimmjow coming back.

Locke cole
01-31-2012, 07:01 PM
Their souls are supposed to be purified and sent to the Soul Society as humans.

And then they live in squalor in the suckiest Heaven ever until they die and get reincarnated in the world of the living.

Ecks
01-31-2012, 09:31 PM
See this is exactly why offscreen death is so cheap. I knew Grimmjow was coming back. There wasn't a "DEAD" page oh wait wrong comic

phil_
02-01-2012, 07:24 PM
Good news, everyone! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-02-01/tite-kubo-bleach-manga-to-enter-final-arc)

Finally, finally we can be free of this evil.

Ryong
02-01-2012, 07:30 PM
Didn't he say he had planned for like, another 10 years or something?

Not that I wanted it to, but, like, I'm glad Bleach and Naruto are finally getting close to the ending.

...So, how about One Piece, huh?

Wait, naw, forget about One Piece, Hajime no Ippo ( "known in Japan as The First Step", so says wikipedia ) has been going on for 22 years and, uh, "First Step".

Aerozord
02-01-2012, 07:36 PM
Didn't he say he had planned for like, another 10 years or something?

Not that I wanted it to, but, like, I'm glad Bleach and Naruto are finally getting close to the ending.

...So, how about One Piece, huh?

I actually think that comment was about one piece because around the same time people were saying it the manga-ka of One Piece said the series was half done, thus meaning 10 more years.

phil_
02-01-2012, 09:46 PM
...So, how about One Piece, huh?One Piece will last forever. They just made it to the New World, i.e. they're half way to the treasure they're after.

Ecks
02-01-2012, 11:06 PM
Sweet kicking christ on a cracker, they're finally going to finish the story? It's kinda dragged on... a really long time. Sad as I'll be to see it go, it's time to wrap things up.

EVILNess
02-02-2012, 01:51 AM
One Piece will last forever. They just made it to the New World, i.e. they're half way to the treasure they're after.

As long as it stays the light-hearted adventure romp it is now. I can live with that.

IHateMakingNames
02-08-2012, 09:18 AM
So it looks like we got Quincy for the final act.

And Ishida will still be useless.

Ryong
02-08-2012, 09:41 AM
Ishida's dad DID tell him not to associate himself with Shinigami anymore so...

Ecks
02-08-2012, 10:46 AM
And once again... nothing happens this chapter. Nothing at all. Yay more new characters, blah blah, Mayuri has an even more ridiculous hat now, blah blah, no elaboration on what the fuck Ichigo said in the last chapter, blah blah blah.

Locke cole
02-08-2012, 11:16 AM
Prediction. Ichigo will be Mister Messiah and find a peaceful resolution between the Soul Reapers and the resurgent Quincies.

And Ishida will still not give Mayuri any real justice for torturing his grandfather to reincarnation.

Arcanum
02-08-2012, 11:22 AM
When I saw the arc title I just burst out laughing because I couldn't help but think "Oh so this is Bleach's last arc because it's going to last a thousand years."

Fifthfiend
02-08-2012, 01:31 PM
Prediction. Ichigo will be Mister Messiah and find a peaceful resolution between the Soul Reapers and the resurgent Quincies.

And Ishida will still not give Mayuri any real justice for torturing his grandfather to reincarnation.

They call it even for the Quincies basically being psychotic religious extremists committing ultramurder.

And by "even" I mean nobody can remember either of those things.

Kyanbu The Legend
02-09-2012, 07:37 PM
When I saw the arc title I just burst out laughing because I couldn't help but think "Oh so this is Bleach's last arc because it's going to last a thousand years."

2years Actually.

Ecks
02-10-2012, 01:31 PM
Yeah, how long did they drag Xcution out again?

Kyanbu The Legend
02-16-2012, 11:42 AM
Almost a year long.

phil_
02-16-2012, 12:01 PM
Am I supposed to understand this Ivan thing?

Arcanum
02-16-2012, 12:36 PM
New character, looks like an Arrancar, is probably an Arrancar, may or may not be evil (but if you squint he kind of looks like Aizen with stupid hair so odds are he's evil), will at one point in the arc be stabbed. You now understand this Ivan thing.

Ecks
02-16-2012, 12:53 PM
he kind of looks like Aizen with stupid hair

Aizen has always had stupid hair, what are you talking about? Anyway, we should all be very afraid. Kubo has just unveiled his newest power... the ability to create characters out of solid background. WE ARE TRULY COME UPON THE END TIMES.

Aerozord
02-16-2012, 02:39 PM
I just love how this ends in a character dramatically saying "Get off the bed"

phil_
02-22-2012, 02:28 PM
The first two pages this week are like a gag translation or something.

Also hurr durr Fullbring. Wait, no, it's something else.

Arcanum
02-22-2012, 03:07 PM
It's one of those Quincy bracelets that turn into a bow.

Locke cole
02-22-2012, 03:35 PM
Yup.

For some reason it's a Quincey who seem to have a Hollow mask.

But honestly, I mostly cared about the first two pages. That kick was well-timed.

Ecks
02-22-2012, 03:40 PM
Can... can anyone actually officially declare war on Soul Society? I'm fairly certain Captain Genocide will just burn them alive.

Locke cole
02-22-2012, 03:47 PM
Thier robes and masks are made of asbestos.

And they don't have to breathe because they're ghosts!

...wait no, that's completely stupid and contradictory.

phil_
02-22-2012, 06:57 PM
But honestly, I mostly cared about the first two pages. That kick was well-timed.If you'll notice, Orihime actually got up to open the window.

Aerozord
02-22-2012, 08:10 PM
If you'll notice, Orihime actually got up to open the window.

you're friends with Ichigo long enough you learn to anticipate these things

Ecks
02-29-2012, 11:49 AM
So hey apparently these guys can slaughter vice captains with impunity and ban bankai. Or at least the guy tried and got a getsuga in the face for it.

Ryong
02-29-2012, 12:03 PM
So hey apparently these guys can slaughter vice captains with impunity and ban bankai. Or at least the guy tried and got a getsuga in the face for it.

Considering they went after someone who never showed his bankai that second part shouldn't be an issue.

IHateMakingNames
02-29-2012, 12:06 PM
So hey apparently these guys can slaughter vice captains with impunity and ban bankai. Or at least the guy tried and got a getsuga in the face for it.
They need to do way more than that. The power creep from the Aizen invasion was Frieza saga level. Xcution was basically filler so these new real villains will have to step their game up.

Locke cole
02-29-2012, 01:25 PM
I... don't even really know what he was trying to do with Ichigo, or what happened. His Bankai triggered a giant X thing, then the panels got cut with a whole bunch of white pillars for about three pages, and then whatever should have happened failed to effect Ichigo and... what?

Ecks
02-29-2012, 03:32 PM
I... don't even really know what he was trying to do with Ichigo, or what happened. His Bankai triggered a giant X thing, then the panels got cut with a whole bunch of white pillars for about three pages, and then whatever should have happened failed to effect Ichigo and... what?

Yeah I have no idea where he was going with that one either to be honest, it's hard to follow.

Arcanum
02-29-2012, 03:52 PM
The guy grabbed something out of his pocket and activated it, which made the giant black X with the white circles in it. Then light or energy or something blasted out of the four groups of four circles in the corners of the X, forming a cage around Ichigo. Ichigo then started yelling (either in pain or to gain power [since we all know in anime (thanks to DBZ) yelling gives you more power]), and his X armlet thing broke as the thingamajig tried to destroy Ichigo's bankai, and then Ichigo shattered the cage and murdered the dude with a Getsuga Tenshou.

Fifthfiend
02-29-2012, 04:18 PM
Here's what happened:

Bleach was a shitty terrible comic.

Ecks
02-29-2012, 04:35 PM
But Fifth we already knew that, it's paraphrased in the thread title.

Arcanum
02-29-2012, 05:07 PM
Also something tells me these new guys are Quincy/Hollow hybrids, similar to the Vaizard. Or like, quincies turned into Hollows after Soul Society murdered them all, and then evolved up to Vasto Lordes or Arrancar while retaining their quincy powers.

IHateMakingNames
03-07-2012, 09:36 AM
Another chapter, another arm lost

phil_
03-07-2012, 07:40 PM
This bad guy isn't pretty at all! :mad:

Kyanbu The Legend
03-07-2012, 08:05 PM
Well at least... it's different then the usual Bishonen Villian.

Sithdarth
03-07-2012, 09:01 PM
Except for the Aizen clone we were obviously supposed to think was the bad guy until Kubo went all Kubo on him.

Ecks
03-08-2012, 08:06 AM
People with beards are always awesome in this comic. So the new big bad must be awesome. Right guys? Right?

Guys?

Kyanbu The Legend
03-08-2012, 08:17 AM
Maybe, Isshin was kinda awesome so mister bigbad of the arc might be too.

Kyanbu The Legend
03-17-2012, 08:10 PM
Well it seems Bleach might not get to finish.

Kubo has fallen ill (he's been coughing up blood)

And the Anime has been cancelled with no plans of renewal.

EDIT: Source: http://tokyogazette.wordpress.com/tag/bleach-cancelled/

It's no big secret, it's all over anime sites across the net.

It lost to Rock Lee, a Naruto Spinoff Series.


EDIT 2: Okay so I did some more digging and now I'm getting news that it's not canceled and that there was a schedule error.

Shits up in the air about the anime right now but I'm sure most of us aren't bothered by this either way. However I am worried about Kubo. :(

Ecks
03-18-2012, 01:47 AM
Holy shit.

Locke cole
03-18-2012, 02:01 AM
Wait, you were serious?

The tone in this thread being what it is, I legitimately thought I was being tricked.

Kyanbu The Legend
03-18-2012, 06:26 AM
And. http://www.jefusion.com/2012/03/bleach-anime-confirmed-to-end-at.html

Still no word about kubo so far.

Ryong
03-21-2012, 09:16 PM
Well, this week's chapter is out, but how's Kubo?

Locke cole
03-21-2012, 09:42 PM
See, this is why you dont' work for supervillains.

You screw up? you get executed.
You succeed? you have nothing more to do for him, he no longer needs you, you get "relieved of duty".
Speak out of turn? Pop.
Say something that reminds him of a funny metaphor involving what you said, and death? You quickly find out your employer's priorities re: human life and comedy.

That's assuming you don't run into the black-leather-wearing rebel among the good guys who will just cut you into precisely 58 pieces so that he can find the light switch without interruption.

And even if the bad guy wins, supervillains don't know what to do with the world. You'll probably end up having to run all the actual politics alongside your side-job of keeping your boss from tripping the "detonate" button on the bomb he snuck into the planet's core to hold everyone hostage.

Also: Hey, Nel. Haven't seen you in a while.

Ecks
03-22-2012, 01:31 PM
And here I have been patiently waiting for Grimmjow... oh well at least Nel and Halibel are confirmed alive.

Ryong
03-22-2012, 01:53 PM
Yeah this chapter was nice.

Also, hey Halibel, how's it going? Seems you recovered from the sword wound and now... you got yourself captured and chained... Um, way to go, third strongest espada.

Kyanbu The Legend
03-27-2012, 12:22 AM
Kinda surprised she could be captured at all but...

I guess the Espadas are obsolete now.

Kyanbu The Legend
04-15-2012, 03:18 AM
So... anyone still keeping up with this?

The chapters seem... okay so far.

Donomni
04-15-2012, 12:55 PM
Still reading it, and it looks like we may finally find out more about the Quincies... or not. I mean, it's Bleach, so it'll devolve into sword fights anyways.

Arcanum
04-15-2012, 01:04 PM
Well we'll get at least two flashbacks. Or more likely: five.

Kyanbu The Legend
05-30-2012, 04:12 PM
New chapter was pretty okay. Though it seems Kira might be a little dead.

Donomni
05-31-2012, 06:28 PM
Hiyori got cut in half and still got saved.

Unless Bleach says people are dead, they ain't dead(Note that Kira's group have "Missing signatures" being reported, not actual deaths).

Ryong
05-31-2012, 06:34 PM
Hiyori was the only one hurt in a large group of people there to help.

This isn't the same.

Kyanbu The Legend
06-01-2012, 09:59 PM
Good point, I forgot how Kubo is with deaths.

Arcanum
06-20-2012, 02:52 PM
Well now this is interesting. A little lame that they're calling for Ichigo to save the day already, but still I'm rather curious to see what happens next.