Filler? I don't even know 'er! aka the fuck-Bleach [SPOILERS] megathread!

[Ryong]

Soon as Zaraki shows up the whole war's in the bag.

[Arcanum]

Unless they find out he's been in Bankai this entire time and steal it away, reducing him to the size of a three-year-old child with a butter knife.

Oh who am I kidding, even if that happened he would still kill them all.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Of course, he's Kenpachi Zaraki.

[EVILNess]

Of course, he's Kenpachi Zaraki.

Kenpachi is the greatest, I think because he is the most unique thing to come out of BLEACH, as far as action Shonen are concerned.

Now before youo roll your eyes at that statement hear me out.

Everyone else trains like madmen and is all super serious to beat the big bad, Kenpachi does nothing but yell "FUCK YES" and just run in and start swinging.

When he is in trouble and needs to pull in a win, his 11th hour super power is the most unique of all. He uses two hands.

Kenpachi is the best character in BLEACH, and his infrequent appearances are the only thing that keeps this shit from being the Kenpachi Show.

Also, I would totally watch the Kenpachi Show.

[phil_]

So, how about that melty face? Didn't see that coming. Maybe we can slay some zombies next; work that into some kind of natural disaster from the Quincies breaking all those souls? It'd look cool, anyway, and what is Bleach about if it's not looking cool?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I forgot Bleach existed until just now. What's this about Zombies?

[Aerozord]

I forgot Bleach existed until just now. What's this about Zombies?

more face melting. Think raiders of the lost ark

[Arcanum]

Yes. Hell fucking yes.

And his eye patch is still on.

[Ryong]

Ahahahaha, oh man, Zaraki never ceases to be the best.

[Aerozord]

The one consistent flaw in any "lets beat them by negating their swords" plan.

[EVILNess]

Like I said earlier, I would totally watch the Kenpachi show.

[Aerozord]

only kenpachi would describe fighting himself as so-so

[Ryong]

So, a lot of shit has been happening lately Yamamoto's bankai, Kenpachi getting owned, Yamamoto being more badass than Kenpachi... so yeah. Thoughts?

[phil_]

Captain Old is gonna lose his bankai. How can a (presumably human) Quincy be thousands of years old? Will Kubo do a horror comic next, because his skulls are really great?

[Sithdarth]

It was pretty clear near the end when the Quincy Commander drew his sword what was going on. Though it was also fairly obvious when he said it had been a century since he'd seen the Captain Commander.

Of course there is something definitely different in how he drew that sword. Perhaps we're looking at another combination Soul Reaper/Fullbring user which would explain his interest in keeping Ichigo out of things.

[EVILNess]

Did anyone else get the feeling that the entire series of events where Kenpachi does what he is best at, being Kenpachi, was just an elaborate set-up for a single Worf moment to make us fear this new villain?

[Bells]

Well... it's a bit of GT Syndrome.

I mean, in Dragonball Z... we had freezer, who was the most powerful being in the whole unniverse. Known as a powerful conqueror across the galaxy and even in other dimensions.

Then, we had Cell... who was around 25x more powerful. But Cell was a secret and never seen before, and man-made, so he is "stronger than any enemy before" without breaking lore.

Then we have Majin Buu... and although he was trapped and all, people still knew about him. And he was stronger than everything... and also every lackey that came with him was way more powerful than Freezar, which breaks lore... Kinda.

And then we have GT, where we go "fuck it!" ...

So, could Kenpachi handle Aizen? Cause Aizen managed to handle Yamamoto. Even if it was more on cunning than just power levels... Kenpachi and Aizen were kept apart to prevent this problem. But now we have this guy who can easily deals with Kenpachi and whom Yamamoto feels the need to deal in brute force.

So, depending on the explanation given in the coming episodes... it can work, we have a parallel on the power levels to show why is this guy different from the last few ones (just so it's not completely out of nowhere), and now it's just a matter of explaining why nobody heard of him before...

My theory is that, the new villain is the same as Ichigo. Son of Yamamoto and a human. Who became Soul Reaper / Quincy hybrid.

[Ryong]

Aizen managed to handle Yamamoto?

You mean when Aizen specially made an Espada to fight Yamamoto which Yamamoto killed by punching it really hard - sure, he lost an arm in the process but it's because he got hit with his own attack.

Yamamoto kind of is centuries older than everyone else and he never says shit so it's totally expected he didn't tell anyone about these guys.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

New chapter is out.

Just read the latest chapter. Yama's Bankai is just... wow that's power. I'm really curious as to how this fight will end.

[phil_]

The Kub'ster really needs to end Bleach so he can write comics about fashion idols getting chased by skeletons.

[Aerozord]

thats... pretty freakin awesome.

I mean he's going to lose because if he didn't the arc would be over. Personally I'm hoping he manages to still injure him cause at 100% it would take another deus ex machina for Ichigo to win.

Also nice that it wasn't BS and it was true that Captain Commander couldn't use his bankai against Aizen.

[Arcanum]

So, based on the line at the end of the chapter it looks like Juha Bach sent out a subordinate who could mimic his powers enough to fool Yamamoto, and trick him into using his Bankai so that they will know enough about it so that they can steal it.

Also, in case anyone is wondering what the hell Zanka no Tachi North is (since the font in the translation I read was ridiculously hard to read, and took me a while to decipher it), it's Heaven and Earth to Ashes and Nothingness

[Kyanbu The Legend]

That's not that much of a stretch. A kinda cleaver yet over used tactic. Still it explains why things aren't ending just yet for the current big bad.

[Ryong]

I'm now wondering if this means that Shunsui's bankai is also very hard to steal as one of his shikai was calvinball already.

[Sithdarth]

Ichigo has all the powers forever always.

[Arcanum]

Now is it going to be because his Mom was a Quincy, or some other stupid reason? Regardless: uuugggghhhhh. Of all the ways this could have gone, they just had to give Ichigo Quincy powers.

[Aerozord]

Now is it going to be because his Mom was a Quincy, or some other stupid reason? Regardless: uuugggghhhhh. Of all the ways this could have gone, they just had to give Ichigo Quincy powers.

someone did point out that if his mom was a quincy that would explain his father leaving soul society. Forbidden love and all that. Still annoying seeing this "twist" again though

Also, Uryu is gonna flip

[Sithdarth]

I love how this thread has become like a giant game of chicken. It's like everyone is so ashamed to be still reading Bleach in its decline they don't want to admit to it by posting about it. Rather they are afraid of being the first one to post because they don't want to be the only one to post and confirm they are the last person reading Bleach. So we all just sit around thinking about it until someone takes the plunge and just does it.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

someone did point out that if his mom was a quincy that would explain his father leaving soul society. Forbidden love and all that. Still annoying seeing this "twist" again though

Also, Uryu is gonna flip

He's already bashing his skull into a brickwall as we speak.

Also I'm ashamed to say I saw this reveal coming a mile away. Infact I'm sure quite a few people likely saw this coming.

[phil_]

I love how this thread has become like a giant game of chicken. It's like everyone is so ashamed to be still reading Bleach in its decline they don't want to admit to it by posting about it. Rather they are afraid of being the first one to post because they don't want to be the only one to post and confirm they are the last person reading Bleach. So we all just sit around thinking about it until someone takes the plunge and just does it.See you next week, Sith.

[Arcanum]

I love how this thread has become like a giant game of chicken. It's like everyone is so ashamed to be still reading Bleach in its decline they don't want to admit to it by posting about it. Rather they are afraid of being the first one to post because they don't want to be the only one to post and confirm they are the last person reading Bleach. So we all just sit around thinking about it until someone takes the plunge and just does it.

Usually I'm just too lazy to make a post here, or at least make a post that will provoke discussion. I'm too stubborn to stop reading Bleach now that I've come this far.

[Sithdarth]

See you next week, Sith.

Welp looks like we might be in for another training arc.

[phil_]

I forget, how bad a thing is it to have one's zanpakuto broken again?

Also, lol spirit backwash powerup.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I forget, how bad a thing is it to have one's zanpakuto broken again?

Also, lol spirit backwash powerup.

A broken Zanpakuto is like a broken bone. It'll heal but it'll take some time.

Zangetsu will be fine. But now that he knows he's a quincy I'm guessing we are going to get a flash back arc first explaining his dorment Quincy powers.

[EVILNess]

Welp looks like we might be in for another training arc.

I would bet that the trainer is going to be Glasses Doctor Dad.

And that he was either the brother of, or in love with Ichigo's mom.

[Aerozord]

I would bet that the trainer is going to be Glasses Doctor Dad.

And that he was either the brother of, or in love with Ichigo's mom.

hahahahaha him and Uryu as cousins

[EVILNess]

hahahahaha him and Uryu as cousins

Kissing Cousins?

[Sithdarth]

Goddamnit Kubo why would you do that?

[Bells]

So... ichigo is officially everything?

Also, how the hell Juda Bach killed Aizen? i thought the only reason they imprisoned him was exactly because he could not be killed, so that was the only option.

[Ryong]

More accurately, Ichigo has BEEN everything.

He was a Quincy human who borrowed Shinigami powers, who then got Hollow powers, who then lost his Shinigami and Hollow powers who then developed Fullbring powers ( heck, Quincy may even be a specialization of Fullbring ) that mimicked Shinigami powers who then lost those who then borrowed Shinigami powers again.

Also, what do you mean, Bells? I didn't see Aizen die or anything.

Also also, hey, Zaraki and Byakuya aren't dead they're just comatose!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Of course Zaraki is still alive, he's too badass to die.

[Bells]

More accurately, Ichigo has BEEN everything.

He was a Quincy human who borrowed Shinigami powers, who then got Hollow powers, who then lost his Shinigami and Hollow powers who then developed Fullbring powers ( heck, Quincy may even be a specialization of Fullbring ) that mimicked Shinigami powers who then lost those who then borrowed Shinigami powers again.

Also, what do you mean, Bells? I didn't see Aizen die or anything.

Also also, hey, Zaraki and Byakuya aren't dead they're just comatose!

You forgot that right there in the middle he became a "transcendent" like Aizen, so he has been everything plus one. And you... perhaps... can count in his "full arrancar" form too...

As for Aizen, i forgot the chapter but it was very recently. Right after Juda Bach`s bullshit "lol not me just a clone" deal, when he explained he was trying to convert Aizen to his side but it didn`t work. To me the dialog implies that Aizen was killed at that moment.... totally off panel.

If he was not killed... that raises even more questions.

[phil_]

If he was not killed... that raises even more questions.Bach didn't kill Aizen because Aizen is invincible and nothing can kill him NOTHING! It's like saying the Sun rising every day raises questions about how it got from the Western horizon to the East with no one seeing it.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Whelp seems Yamamoto is confirmed dead... for now.

I doubt Aizen is dead and I wonder when Ichigo's gonna get his bitch'n new Bow.

[Aerozord]

What bugs me isn't that he is a quincy, its that there was no build-up. Remember what the build up for his hollow powers was. The mask that kept popping up, Yoruichi's reaction to it, an entire arc before he just goes nuts. Fullbring wasn't perfect but its existence and nature was explained. Chad said like a hundred chapters before the nature of his power was more that of a hollow.

Now its, suddenly uses an advanced technique (that we found out about only a few chapters earlier) without even meaning to and the bad guy instantly explaining how it happened and why he is a quincy.

[Sithdarth]

Seems like this might take awhile. We've got a bunch of new characters and we learn that broken bankai generally don't ever get fixed.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

About a year and a half, to be exact. Atleast that's how long the final arc is planned to last.

Whelp it seems old Zangetsu is no more seeing as he cannot be repaired.

On the other hand, Since Ichigo has recently gained quincy powers, chances are he's gonna get a bitch'n new Gun Blade to replace-it/upgrade to.

[phil_]

Kon actually showed up for two-and-a-half pages! I know who that is!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

And it seem Kon has a new buffed body!

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

What strikes me as more than a little silly is if the zero division is stronger than the entire gotei 13 combined, why were they sitting with their thumbs up their asses until now when all this shit could have been avoided?

As lazy as bleach can be at times this takes the cake.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Supposedly they were guarding the Soul King this whole time. And were just now given the order to bail out the Gotei 13.

[Aerozord]

Seems like he's being experimented on so he can fulfill his original purpose as a weapon. I am always filled with a mix of happiness and sadness when I see Kon. He is a great character that gets wasted as throw away comic relief.

Here we have a character that views all life as being precious among a destroyed city with so many dead, yet his appearance adds absolutely nothing to the story at all. This is a guy that nearly got himself killed to save ants, what the hell Kubo?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

The thing about Kon is that he was always intended to be comic relief, it's just that his character has so much untapped potential to be more then just "the funny guy".

Seeing as the manga, is ending in a year-and a half. I doubt he'll get to do much.


Then again... (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Spinoff)

[Sithdarth]

Well at least we get to see the Soul Palace. Hopefully they don't try to make Ichigo a member of the zero division.

You know all this zero division stuff puts that giant cannon they used to break through that barrier in a whole new light. It doesn't make sense for the zero division to be so unworried about something that can breach the supposedly unbreachable protection of the soul king.

[Bells]

i still think Ichigo's dad was a former member of the Zero Division, that circles around nicely this "mixing pot" of untapped potential that Bleach turned out to be. a LOT of cool potential unturned, sadly...

I do like the fact that the Zero Division folks don't loo anything like what i would imagine.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

Calling it right now, the soul king is either a child or a baby who can talk in an articulate manner while a pacifier is wedged in its mouth.

Ooh ooh or the soul king is on his deathbed, turns out to be ichigo's great great great great great granpappy, and is gonna hand the reigns to ichigo since he is gonna die and Ichigo will be the new soul king. Somethin lame like that is gonna happen.

[phil_]

The Spirit King is a spooky mummy.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

No, no, no see the Spirit King is just a mirror with a sign above it that says "The Spirit King is YOU!!"

[Aerozord]

Huh? What are you guys talking about, we already met http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/drowningautumn/Art/DonKanojai.jpg

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Spirit king is a giant monster that is exactly as evil as it looks.

[Bells]

Well, Aizen did call it "that Thing"... you have to wonder what someone has to be or look like to cause revolt and discomfort in freaking Aizen...

[Aerozord]

Aizen seemed the type to judge a being more on its nature than its physical appearance. So I can see it being a very human looking but very alien being.

That being said, I'm hoping we get some Kubo trolling and its literally a thing. Like its just an inanimate statue or something.

[EVILNess]

Huh? What are you guys talking about, we already met http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/drowningautumn/Art/DonKanojai.jpg

This would be the best kubo-troll ever.

[Arcanum]

If that happened then Bleach would finally be awesome again.

[synkr0nized]

so

This was linked to me (http://gairon.deviantart.com/gallery/32965504). It's probably not really SFW.

The Bleach jokes entertained me, despite the Hooters-esque nature of the restaurant, and the parody/satire of the characters is pretty terrific. Things like tsundere-teenage Nel, Aizen being the only one to see Gin, Unohana's relentless stare, "shoulder lolis", etc.

[Ryong]

So uh were those the fullbringer people?

[Arcanum]

Yes. And I'm guessing it was Grimmjow who showed up in Urahara's tent briefly, because he's the only Arancar I remember being that vulgar.

[phil_]

Those were the dead fullbringer people, because A: Kubo remembered this was a story about ghosts and B: this lets him keep Riruka gone, as she was not a dead fullbringer person.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Ah so Ichigo's gonna get a new sword afterall. And Zangetsu really is...


Anyway the bigbads from the fullbring arc are back and thanks to the rules of death, they have no memories of their past life. Which gives them a clean slate and makes them viable allies.

It is Grimmjow, Kubo's kidding himself if he thinks the fans won't notice it's him.

[Arcanum]

I thought I heard somewhere that Kubo said he was bringing Grimmjow back (along with Halibel, who we've already seen, and I think Stark), so I don't think Kubo was trying to hide that it was him per se, more just tease the folks that knew he was coming back.

Also, when was it stated the dead don't remember their past lives? The fact that whatshisface memory guy has his sword out is evidence that he remembers enough to use his fullbring. Plus there was that one kid whose spirit was inside a bird that remembered Chad risking his life to protect the bird.

Also the lack of Riruka is pretty great.

[phil_]

But, if they have no memories of their past lives, how does Facebook still have his friends list sword? Edit: Yeah, what he said! Wait a second...Also the lack of Riruka is pretty great.You take that back!

[Arcanum]

Never!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Lost of memories doesn't equal loss of powers. It's likely that they were retought how to use their powers.

The lost memories after dieing thing was mentioned during/before SS. And again during the bleach movie (memories of nobody).

Otherwise they have no reason what so ever to help at all much less not kill/mind rape Genjoh and start their journey of revenge. (sp)

Making this another case of tite kubo favored bullshit with extra shit sprinkled on.

[phil_]

Otherwise they have no reason what so ever to help at all much less not kill/mind rape Genjoh and start their journey of revenge. (sp)They were defeated; they're allies now. That's just common sense.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

They were defeated; they're allies now. That's just common sense.

But they have no reason to.

At least with the Gotai 13 it was them doing their jobs. The other fullbringers were just being manipulated.

But those 3 pretty much have no reason to care about SS going up in flames and thanks to being human aren't even on the quincies list of things to fuck up in style.

[phil_]

If you absolutely must have an explanation based on logic and consequences, Kubster gave you one in "Fireworks took them in off the streets;" what with "the streets" still being a lawless place where Soul Reapers can kill indiscriminately and answer to no one, everyone lives in destitute poverty, and life (or after-life, I guess) is cheap. They are indebted to Fireworks, so they do what she says, and she said "Train with my stupid brother."

But the real explanation is still "They got beat; they're allies now." I have no idea why you'd set power of befriending aside in a story that has run on power of befriending since Ishida.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

You have a point, but atleast the other had some form of a reason for helping (Ishida and ichigo had a common enemy).

Guess we'll have to wait and hear why those 3 are helping SS whenever Kubo gets back to them.

[Arcanum]

Wasn't their motivation solely "Let's get more power?" I honestly forget if they had any ulterior motives beyond "steal Ichigo's power and become more powerful." Because if that's the case Fireworks lady could've just been like "I'll help you guys be stronger, and I'll give you direction for that power, and nobody will hate you anymore."

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Yeah, but with Ginjo it was for the sake of getting revenge against SS for betraying him by placing the power limiter on him without his consent.

[Arcanum]

Yeah, but with Ginjo it was for the sake of getting revenge against SS for betraying him by placing the power limiter on him without his consent.

Okay so:
Fireworks lady could've just been like "SS is totes sorry, and to make it up to you I'll help you guys be stronger, and I'll give you direction for that power, and nobody will hate you anymore."

[Aerozord]

I honestly really want to see Uryu's take on all this. Yea he thinks soul reapers are dicks, but he also believes (or to be more exact his grandfather thought) the quincies were short sighted stubborn fools that needed to be wiped out.

Also in my opinion this kind of explains why they leave fireworks lady alone. They'd be kind of boned otherwise

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Okay so:

I don't know, I really don't see them being that forgiving. (Tsukishima maybe)


But I suppose that's why we have the power of friendship and the art of befriending your enemies.

[Bells]

Nobody hanging on the "make our uncle disappointed" line from Fireworks lady then...

alrighty

[Kyanbu The Legend]

A few people here and there speculate "their uncle might be Isshin". Which wouldn't be too big a thing to believe seeing as Isshin's from SS.

[Bells]

That would make Ganju and Ishida both Family relatives of Ichigo...

That's... actually so dumb that it's kinda cool.

[Aerozord]

there is the possibility he meant "son" more like "male decedent". Japan kinda does things like that

[Sithdarth]

So apparently the soul king is some sort of butterfly man too or something.

(Also, good to see this thread continued without me for a week.)

[phil_]

This thread will never die, just like Byakuya.

I wonder if there are just, like, regular souls up in those floating cities. Just normal dudes who get a special despot all their own. Or are the Zero Division kings and queens of empty cities?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

This thread will never die, just like Byakuya.

I wonder if there are just, like, regular souls up in those floating cities. Just normal dudes who get a special despot all their own. Or are the Zero Division kings and queens of empty cities?

Probably where the purist of souls end up going.

Also really starting to like the Squad Zero Guys now.

[Aerozord]

I am actually looking forward to seeing him. It looks like The Spirit King will be humanoid but distinctly alien. Atleast I hope, Kubo hasn't challenged himself much with character designs in awhile.

Probably where the purist of souls end up going.


you mean a legit heaven like they were promised instead of a nightmarish purgatory?

[phil_]

Oh, right, I guess I was wrong about the Spirit King being a spooky mummy. I could say it might've gotten boring seeing Kubster draw macabre stuff more often, but that's just sour grapes. I guess butterfly-man will have to do.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I am actually looking forward to seeing him. It looks like The Spirit King will be humanoid but distinctly alien. Atleast I hope, Kubo hasn't challenged himself much with character designs in awhile.



you mean a legit heaven like they were promised instead of a nightmarish purgatory?

Yeah

[Sithdarth]

I was wondering what the hell was going on with Kenpachi totally didn't call that Unahona thing though. Man it'd be awesome if we got to see Kenpachi release his sword but I have a feeling the only meant teaching him an actual sword style.

[Aerozord]

Will be nice to see why they fear her so much. Though what really surprised me was him calling her Yachiru

[Bells]

yeah the whole Yachiru thing totally threw me off... kinda nice to see that Kubo can still do a fun twist from time to time.

Bleach is actually better when he devotes a bit of time to character and world building instead of just Fighting armies...

But sadly i foresee this will bring a bunch of question we won't get answer for quite a long time... i mean, if Unohana is also Yachiru and Kenpachi, than who is Yachiru that walks around with Unohana?

Also, Kenpachi is a title for the strongest fighter, and at the same time, she is the most powerful healer...

.....oh wait, i just noticed i answered my own damn question... the Yachiru that hangs around Kenpachi is her Zanpakuto.

I know want to know WHY she stopped fighting ...either way i'm sure it will be a stupid explanation that i'll love it.

[phil_]

I know want to know WHY she stopped fighting ...either way i'm sure it will be a stupid explanation that i'll love it.She got ghost pregnant but lost her ghost child somehow and it broke her ghost fighting-spirit because women are defined by childcare.

Don't you dare let me be right this time, Kubo.:argh:

[Aerozord]

my guess is thats where Kenpachi got the name Yachiru and that Retsu is an assumed name. She seems to go through quite the effort to not reveal her fighting ability.

As for her being the healer, again my guess is that after Captain Pompadour joined zero squad she was the best healer left. As she explained after the last fight, even if you are useful as a fighter you are more useful as a medic so you have to stay in the back lines.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

my guess is thats where Kenpachi got the name Yachiru and that Retsu is an assumed name. She seems to go through quite the effort to not reveal her fighting ability.

As for her being the healer, again my guess is that after Captain Pompadour joined zero squad she was the best healer left. As she explained after the last fight, even if you are useful as a fighter you are more useful as a medic so you have to stay in the back lines.

That's probably the sole reason why she's not active as a fighter on the feild. After all if she died, most of the Soul Reapers would be pretty screwed. (unless urihime was there)

[Arcanum]

But sadly i foresee this will bring a bunch of question we won't get answer for quite a long time... i mean, if Unohana is also Yachiru and Kenpachi, than who is Yachiru that walks around with Unohana?

Also, Kenpachi is a title for the strongest fighter, and at the same time, she is the most powerful healer...

.....oh wait, i just noticed i answered my own damn question... the Yachiru that hangs around Kenpachi is her Zanpakuto.

I know want to know WHY she stopped fighting ...either way i'm sure it will be a stupid explanation that i'll love it.

I... I really hope this is a joke post.

In case it isn't:

Kenpachi is a title for the strongest shinigami. Unohana != Zaraki. Zaraki earned the title Kenpachi by being stronger than Unohana. Zaraki named pink-haired Yachiru after "someone he admired" (according to the wiki) when they found each other in a shitty Rukongai district. It's possible Unohana was that someone. Why she changed her name? We don't know yet.

[Bells]

Kenpachi is a title for the strongest shinigami. Unohana != Zaraki. Zaraki earned the title Kenpachi by being stronger than Unohana. Zaraki named pink-haired Yachiru after "someone he admired" (according to the wiki) when they found each other in a shitty Rukongai district. It's possible Unohana was that someone. Why she changed her name? We don't know yet.

Uuuuuuh i had forgot about that part! That makes MUCH more sense!

I would assume she simply changed it to "distance" herself from that image, i mean, everybody who knows her her shown in some point or another that everybody is a bit afraid of her... if she chose to be a healer after passing the title to Zaraki (who i would assume, defeated her in duel) it would make sense to "distance herself" from that image entirely.

[Aerozord]

I doubt he ever beat her in a duel, or should I say legitimately. Strong as he is, he cant really compare to the original captains.

From what I remember, and I admit its been awhile. He never technically obtained the title. Kenpachi was what they used to call the strongest and he took it as his name because, well wouldn't you?

[Sithdarth]

Interesting, so apparently the zanpakuto wasn't always a thing. Kinda explains how both Yoruichi and Kenpachi can get along without one. Well is Kenpachi's case he is essentially without one as he uses his like its just a stick. To be honest I've always just assumed that he just found a sword lying on the ground one day and just took it and decided to use it because he is that awesome.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Damn only a few chapters in and he already slimed her down and gave her huge breasts...

I have to admit his self control is still lightyears better then mine. She wouldn't have remained the same past the first panel showing her.


Also I like the direction Kubo went in with Squad Zero being the founders of something made in SS. Can't wait to see the man who created the concept of a Zanpakuto.

[Bells]

Damn only a few chapters in and he already slimed her down and gave her huge breasts...

I have to admit his self control is still lightyears better then mine. She wouldn't have remained the same past the first panel showing her.

you would've turned her into a Neko-Girl wouldn't you?...

on other news... what makes me sympathetic to this stuff is that Renji and Ichigo seems to be going "This is such bullshit" just as often as the reader...

Also, if she slims down cause her cooking consumes her energy... why don't her breasts slim down too?

this is such bullshit...

...yeah i liked it...

[Kyanbu The Legend]

you would've turned her into a Neko-Girl wouldn't you?...

on other news... what makes me sympathetic to this stuff is that Renji and Ichigo seems to be going "This is such bullshit" just as often as the reader...

Also, if she slims down cause her cooking consumes her energy... why don't her breasts slim down too?

this is such bullshit...

...yeah i liked it...

Neko-girl no, everything else yeah.

That aside I was wondering the same thing too. Breasts are techincally mostly fat. As the milk gland itself is very small. So if her fat = energy then why did her super jugs remain huge and they even became more perky. Well it sounds like she'll be back to being chubby again soon based on what she says at the end.

[phil_]

What I got from this chapter was that Kuby finds Japanese media's incessant over-describing of food as ridiculous as everyone else outside Japan.

[Sithdarth]

It occurs to me that she is using vast amounts of reiryoku to cook and she is using the food to infuse them with vast amounts of reiryoku which probably means she just fed them bits of her own spirit. Is that considered cannibalism?

[EVILNess]

What I got from this chapter was that Kuby finds Japanese media's incessant over-describing of food as ridiculous as everyone else outside Japan.

So Kubo secretly hates Toriko?

[phil_]

So Kubo secretly hates Toriko?And Iron Chef, and every show where "talent" eats food then talks about the food. Or, so I'd guess. Probably hates Toriko for different reasons. And at least you can skip ahead to the fights in Toriko, or do they describe food while they fight? I don't read it, so I dunno.

[Aerozord]

Interesting, so apparently the zanpakuto wasn't always a thing. Kinda explains how both Yoruichi and Kenpachi can get along without one. Well is Kenpachi's case he is essentially without one as he uses his like its just a stick. To be honest I've always just assumed that he just found a sword lying on the ground one day and just took it and decided to use it because he is that awesome.The supplemental material in the manga volumes explain that the rank and file soul reapers actually do use just generic zanpaktos. The seated members are the ones that make use of their own personal ones. In Kenpachi's case they did seem to heavily imply that is his personal one. It has a unique design and its clear he has used it for awhile. Plus he did make that one token effort to talk to it.


That aside I was wondering the same thing too. Breasts are techincally mostly fat. As the milk gland itself is very small. So if her fat = energy then why did her super jugs remain huge and they even became more perky. Well it sounds like she'll be back to being chubby again soon based on what she says at the end.Breasts are perkier if they are lacking excess fat. To be fair while still technically fat, and excess fat tending to accumulate there, that found in the breast is abit different. Though most likely he just wanted her to have bigger breasts

Also, my crazy theory about breasts being "spirit energy reserves" totally canon now.

And Iron Chef, and every show where "talent" eats food then talks about the food. Or, so I'd guess. Probably hates Toriko for different reasons. And at least you can skip ahead to the fights in Toriko, or do they describe food while they fight? I don't read it, so I dunno.
Its a series about food, so yea crap like that happens. Though its not especially out of place. As was said earlier Japanese have a tendency to use more prose than our food critics, plus being a shonen series about food it makes sense. How often do you see someone be overly descriptive about a technique or weapon in manga.

[Aerozord]

One thing I like about this weeks chapter is someone finally called Ichigo on not really taking any effort to strengthen the bond with his sword.

[Bells]

Seriously? The bond? I thought he bonded so hard he melded with the damn thing, became it, than forged a new one by melding the Top 10 Bleach Shonen Jump Supah Favourite character list's souls together into another one...

If anything, i would give Ichigo lip for never learning more than 1 attack... also when he started Bankai'ng he was suppose to be ultra fast, but quickly after that he simply became "as fast as everyone else".

He is a lazy bun that strawberry he is...

[Aerozord]

Seriously? The bond? I thought he bonded so hard he melded with the damn thing, became it, than forged a new one by melding the Top 10 Bleach Shonen Jump Supah Favourite character list's souls together into another one...

Yea which basically ended with him sacrificing it. I dont think you can say you have a "strong bond" when you caste it aside.
also when he started Bankai'ng he was suppose to be ultra fast, but quickly after that he simply became "as fast as everyone else".

He is a lazy bun that strawberry he is...
they explained this in the full bring arc. Ichigo's bankai had been nerfed ever since the soul society arc by his substitute badge

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I love the blade god! X3

Best character I've seen yet. XD

[Bells]

Yea which basically ended with him sacrificing it. I dont think you can say you have a "strong bond" when you caste it aside.

yeah this is the thing... i haven't seen the new chapter yet, so i dunno about it... but has he actually lost his sword spirit forever (Zangetsu is gone) or is it just "banished" cast aside or somesuch? Like, maybe dormant or something like that...

[Kyanbu The Legend]

We've yet to see Zangetsu himself again. Same goes for HiIchigo.

Next few chapters will likely explain why.

[Sithdarth]

I'm guessing what he's getting at is that even though soul reapers in general talk to and bond with there sword in the back of their minds most of them still think of them as little more than talking swords.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Which makes me wonder if this is a reference to the "I hate my Zanpakuto" filler arc from the now ill fated anime.

[Aerozord]

oh, seems she was the former 11th captain, but I thought that guy was all murdered and stuff

[Arcanum]

oh, seems she was the former 11th captain, but I thought that guy was all murdered and stuff

Digging around on the Bleach wiki, he did kill the previous 11th Captain. Which means Unohana changed her ways a decent amount of time before Zaraki entered the Gotei 13.

[Aerozord]

though wiki are suspect, could have just been the pervailing assumption, plus I think that reference was from the bount arc. Of course it could be he just retconned but this feels like something he planned out a long time ago judging by all the little hints about it.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Bleach is back!? FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!


...Wait...

[Arcanum]

The previous captain was also male.

http://i.imgur.com/ST2FN.png

[Kyanbu The Legend]

So... Unahana really is a psycho?


... I knew it.

[Aerozord]

The previous captain was also male.


I'm not 100% on that, Japan has neutral pronouns that are hard to translate. Possible the captains gender was left ambiguous.

Though that is a clear "you killed him"

[Sithdarth]

You know that whole thing about blank zanpakuto and how recruits basically imprint on them brings up all sorts of questions. Though it does kind of explain Ichigo's permanent shikai state in that he straight created his sword himself which we found out is unusual.

Also, this totally makes my theory that Kenpachi just found a zanpakuto laying around and picked it up plausible (or maybe he killed its owner). He is just bad ass enough to pull something like that off.

[Sithdarth]

Man way too much subtlety in this fight between supposed maniacs. I'm pretty sure she's killing him and then reviving him repeated in this fight. It definitely happened at least once.

[Aerozord]

Man way too much subtlety in this fight between supposed maniacs. I'm pretty sure she's killing him and then reviving him repeated in this fight. It definitely happened at least once.

honestly I thought he just got one of those "vision of your own death" things thats common in anime. but your idea is much more interesting so I hope you are right

[Bells]

Considering that Unohana is pretty much the 2nd best healer ever, bringing people from the brink of death seems feasible to her.

Also, Kubo pretty much admiting that Zaraki has Super Saiyan Syndrome

[Aerozord]

I just realized, by "killed the previous captain of 11th squad" they meant killed as in killed who they were. Like a broken spirit kinda thing

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Honestly I thought that his zanpakutou may have something do with him dieing for about 5 mins before respawning. You know, like his sword grants him the ability to recover from near death with greater power. A zombie blade able to negate death from minor injuries.

[Bells]

Honestly I thought that his zanpakutou may have something do with him dieing for about 5 mins before respawning. You know, like his sword grants him the ability to recover from near death with greater power. A zombie blade.

Huh...

maybe that why...

Zaraki's Zanpakuto makes him immortal somehow? Or near immortal?!

Also... that's somehow Unohana's Sin? Maybe thar's why he can't really connect with that sword? If he understood it's power, he would be unstoppable?

Actually... Zaraki having the ultimate Healing zanpakuto instead of "MOAR DAKKA" would be a pretty cool twist....

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Yeah, It would also explain what Central 46 meant when they said he'd be unstopable. Not because of his strength but rather because of the fact that he litterally can't die so long as he's got his sword.

[Sithdarth]

but your idea is much more interesting so I hope you are right

I'm pretty sure it wasn't a vision based on the literal blacking out of part of one of the panels, the blood spatter on her face that didn't go away, and the fact that his sword was across the room and then suddenly in his hand. What ever happened really does seem to have happened in reality.

Also since I think enough people have now read the chapter we are probably safe to drop the spoilers from here on out. That said, I'm starting to think there might be a slight chance that Unohana like did something to Kenpachi during or after their initial fight. Something that resulted in what he is now and she regrets it. If so I guess the logic would be that she had lots of fun fighting him and wanted him to get stronger.

That or her sin is the obsession he has for killing things and power that she inflamed in him.

[Aerozord]

actually I completely forgot, didn't Ichigo kill him?

[Sithdarth]

Or at least like super close to it. He's like always getting injured to the point anyone else would be dead anyway.

[Sithdarth]

And this chapter totally kind of makes sense. That is totally a thing Kenpachi would and has done in the past. Also, totally right about the repeatedly killing him thing.

[Ryong]

This is the best spin on training to achieve one's potential.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Whelp my theory just burned up in smoke. Unahana has been reviving Kenpachi everytime she killed him. Also it seems their battle in the Seratai (sp?) wasn't the first time they fought. She actually fought him before when he was just a young teen in the Rerukai (sp?).

Her greatest sin, was that dispite being evenly matched. Kenpachi was able to defeat her. And the fear of losing his only worthy opponent. Caused him to subconciously limit his own powers and abilities.

The only way to break those limits, is to kill him repeatedly. Because each time he recovers from the brink of death from her reviving him. He subconciously removes one of his limits. Interestingly enough this also explains why he had a hard time with Ichigo and Noritora (sp?) during those battles. When he was clearly capable of defeating them easily.

[Bells]

remember that with Noitora, Kenpachi`s "Bankai momment" was pretty much him using his sword with both hands.

I like where this is heading, but it really sucks that every time Kubo has a chance of going deeper into character traits and story, he gets jacked right back into mindless action... i mean, i actually want to know more of this. More of Unohana`s old days, how she actually differs from who she is now (and how she managed to keep her skills up to date for so long when she actually stopped fighting and killing so much)

I mean, if all this amounts to is "I'm more Zaraki now than i was before" it will be pretty disappointing.

[phil_]

(and how she managed to keep her skills up to date for so long when she actually stopped fighting and killing so much)Murdering peasants.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

New chapter is out, Unahana uses her bankai, Kenny's full power is unlocked, and apparantly Unanaha dies and Kenny is still Bankai-less...

[Aerozord]

WHAT THE HELL KUBO in your own words the longer you wait to reveal the more epic that reveal will be. She finally uses her bankai and it, what vaguely helps her in some way?

[Sithdarth]

Man Kubo is such a bastard sometimes. The Kenpachi thing finally gets super interesting and now it looks like we're going to be spending a good amount of time with Ichigo instead.

Also, I really hope Kenpachi's sword is Kido type. I'll be super disappointed if it isn't. (It almost definitely isn't though.)

[phil_]

Time for Ichigo to gain yet another new set of powers whee!

[Aerozord]

Ah I get it now he couldn't hear his zanpakto because deep down he didn't want to hear it. He'd be far too powerful if he unlocked its power. It actually makes sense

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I wonder if this means Ichigo will start to learn about his Qunicy half.

Also Zeraki really is getting a Bankai. Words cannot discribe how broken and OP he's gonna be now.

[Aerozord]

Nah, shonen power creep, you are always as strong as you need to be.

Admittedly Bleach is surprisingly good at this. Hell it actually justified why it kept happening with Kenpachi and Ichigo. Still my money is on them now matching the big bads with some mook curb stomping for some added Worf Effect

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Yeah chances are we might see, Zaraki one shot the entire Qunicy army and go toe to toe with their leader (I can't remember his name, sorry).

After a feirce battle with Zaraki in his Bankai state. Their leader will take advantage of his tendency to draw out battles for the lolz and steal/seal his bankai and nearly defeat or out right kill him. Just as Ichigo shows up with a new Hybrid Zanpakutou with Quincy Powers to the max. Ready to show the Qunicy leader what he did to Aizen not too long ago.

[Sithdarth]

You know I just realized this talk of Ichigo's roots might mean we finally get to hear his Dad's explanation about his origins. You remember that explanation we were promised way back before the "Totally not Hyperbolic Time Chamber" Training.

[Sithdarth]

Goddammit I wish I hadn't been right about that. I wanted more of the Kenpachi show this week. Instead we just get something we all already totally knew.

[phil_]

But we got some Unagiya, so that's nice.

[EVILNess]

I have a question.

Haven't they established that being a Quincy is something you learn, as in it is a set of skills passed down, not a biological thing.

Of course, I was kind of suprised that being a Shinigami was genetic.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

So now it's confirmed. Ichigo is indeed a Quincy.

[Aerozord]

I have a question.

Haven't they established that being a Quincy is something you learn, as in it is a set of skills passed down, not a biological thing.

Of course, I was kind of suprised that being a Shinigami was genetic.

maybe, but that would still mean the spiritual power had to come from somewhere. Something else they established is most people lack even the potential to develop spiritual abilities and Ichigo can inherently see hollows and soul reapers.

You know whats really gonna irk me though. Now Ichigo pulled out some BS special training to get to the level he was as a soul reaper. Urahara used alot of short-cuts while training him. Even then it was only thanks to fluke hollow powers that he could fight at the level of a captain.

Though by the looks of it he's going to go from zero to overpowered with his quincy abilities in a matter of days.

On a related note, even with his soul reaper powers handicapped, he is still has powers Kubo has forgotten about

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Actually, since his Hallow side merged with Zangetsu (techincally they were always one being but what ever). When his sword broke, he lost both his Hallow and Shinigami powers.

So yeah he was quite literally knocked all the way back to level 1... again...

[Sithdarth]

Oh my god, I so called that like a year ago. Kenpachi totally just took a zanpakuto from a corpse and made it his own. I mean I said mostly as a joke about how badass he was but apparently Kubo agreed.

And also now it's kind of clear why Isshin took the name Kurosaki.

[phil_]

And also now it's kind of clear why Isshin took the name Kurosaki.Please explain, as I kinda skipped everything between Ichigo getting Visored training and Ichigo getting Fullbring training, and thus missed a lot of pseudo-Chekhov's guns.

[Sithdarth]

Basically its just that now we know that Isshin was not only captain of squad 10 but also the head of a branch of the Shiba family. So his name would have been like a gigantic flashing neon sign. Also, the Shiba family seems to have fallen into disrepute and that is probably connected in some way. He also seemed really disinterested in being the head of a household.

I just now realized this makes Ganju and Ichigo like cousins or something. It also makes me wonder how much K?kaku knows about all this. Although if she was aware of his origins it would kind of explain that throw away scene at the end of one of the chapters around the time the zero squad showed up.

Edit: Dude! I just realized that this now explains Ichigo's resemblance to Kaien Shiba which was one of the main reasons Rukia even gave him the time of day. Goddamn Kubo just tied up a lot of loose plot threads with one revelation.

[Aerozord]

This was a really enjoyable chapter, not just for the subtle and complex resolution Sith explained but it was just an entertaining read.

You know thinking back to the first few chapters. It must have been so hard on Isshin to not be able to protect his family from a hollow that would normally be nothing to him. Speaking of, "hollowfication in hollows" is just stupid. They really should have translated that differently or something.

Oh and this means we will get more of a look into how Urahara ties into all this. Remember he commented that he made that gigai

afterthought: it just hit me, if his mom was a quincy, remember Ichigo kinda blacked out when they were attacked. Good chance she actually fought off grand fisher. I did always wonder why he would kill her but not Ichigo

[Kyanbu The Legend]

That is possible and it would explain why she died dispite her abilities as a Quincy.

[Aerozord]

Lets remember the exact panel of her death. Laying over Ichigo with an injury on her back. If that doesn't scream noble sacrifice I dont know what does

[Bells]

So, essentially, Ichigo only had a Zanpakuto cause it was created via Rukia's and his "second one" was a mish mash of powers...

But he did found his "own" zanpakuto during his training with Urahara... which i guess, now, just like with the Fullbring stuff... only means that Ichigo imprinted his own power on the Zanpakuto he got via Rukian and made it "his Own-ish"...

Regardless, we all know that this is leading up to Ichigo having a "mugetsu" style blade in the end, he is "Kuwabara-ing" up hard. Reiatsu-Blade here we go...

Actually, having Naruto's new super power being called Kurama, if Ichigo goes Kuwabara, this whole thing will finally fully turn into Yu Yu Hakusho and that would be all kinds of great and stupid at the same time...

[Kyanbu The Legend]

As much as I want him to get some kind of Gunblade Zanpakutou/Quincy Gun hybrid.

A Energy Blade formed from his hands does sound pretty cool.

[Sithdarth]

Well that kind of explains the history between Ry?ken and Isshin and why Ry?ken was so insistent that Uryu stay away from Ichigo specifically. Also, this might explain how Ry?ken got so disillusioned about the whole Quincy thing and didn't want to train Uryu.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Oh shit that hallow at the end! It was Zangetsu!!!! OoO


And no new chapter next week... damn you Kubo and your hangers! >_< /jk

[Aerozord]

Oh shit that hallow at the end! It was Zangetsu!!!! OoO

Really? Cause to me it looked alot more like http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq91/Tigerguy92/Hollow_ichigo_by_vladtepez.jpg

[Sithdarth]

I think that is what he meant. Personally I just hope its another Kubo troll because it doesn't really make sense without a drastic rewriting of what we know about basically everything at this point. Basically I'm just hoping Kubo just really liked that character design and was looking for an excuse to use it again.

That is unless like Aizen in causing Zanpakuto to manifest and then turn into hollows and that is how the other soul reapers died. Basically the Zanpakuto Rebellion arc but like cannon. Which actually might explain a few things. Namely it would explain how Isshin got his but handed to him and then was saved by a quincy who doesn't seem to be all that strong. Not to mention why he lost his soul reaper powers. So like if that's his Zanpakuto manifested and turned into a hollow and it gets destroyed thereby removing his powers I can totally see why he would stay in the world of the living. The relationship with Masaki being a natural extension of her saving his life. I'm not sure how I feel about a canon Zanpakuto rebellion like event though.

[Aerozord]

well lets keep in mind that wasn't Ichigo's original hollow form. It did change over time and while mentioned the cause was never brought up and we all know how much kubo loves leaving tidbits like that only to explain them 100 chapters later

[phil_]

The important thing is that it looks cool, sword arms and all. That's what really counts.

[Bells]

Ok, so... "Not-Hollow-Ichigo" fights Isshin, isshin gets severly wounded (very early in the series: you can drain someone`s reiatsu clean out of their body by wounding very specific points in their body).

Ok... how about this... that is not a Hollow, thats an Arrancar. created by Aizen. he fights isshin, wounds him severly (he looses his power) but gets killed. Due to his Hollowfication he infects Isshin, to an extent...

Eventually Ichigo is born (isshin is probably saved by ichigo's mom...) and that sliver of arrancar gets passed to Ichigo.

Arrancar are part Shinigami, Part Hollow, Ichigo if fully Quincy.

So he has a bit of Shinigami in him (which develops as Zangetsu) and a bit of hollow in him (which develops as Shirosaki) and his Quincy abilities allow him to achieve Fullbring a bit more easily AND explain why he had wild fluctuations of power... he is simply drawing tons of spirit particles all the time with little to no control. Also why he sees ghosts (and just one of his sisters)

So, rukia's meddling sent his Shinigami side to overload... and his hollow mask (which has slowly appear ever since the Rukia Rescue arc) also starts to grow at a slower rate.

When he gets in contact with more and more powerfull enemies, his Arrancar side starts showing up and his contact with Arrancar speeds things up even more.

Now, technically, he is free from his Shinigami Side and Arrancar Side, and his Shinigami powers are vestigial from the power his friends gave to him... so he must learn quincy techniques...

Which means... training arc with Ishida and Ryuuken.

[Aerozord]

I think it will be something simpler, Isshin has to use his swords final form to beat this thing, but that causes him to lose all his powers, so she finds him laying there powerless.

There is one minor thing I hope gets explained. How the hell did a soul reaper earn a medical degree. I guess you can say he didn't, he just studied medicine (though you better explain why he did that) but I'm pretty sure Japan is just as strict as the US is about who gets to practice medicine. Probably more so since its a nation with national health care and probably doesn't want you wasting money on a quack

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I think it will be something simpler, Isshin has to use his swords final form to beat this thing, but that causes him to lose all his powers, so she finds him laying there powerless.

There is one minor thing I hope gets explained. How the hell did a soul reaper earn a medical degree. I guess you can say he didn't, he just studied medicine (though you better explain why he did that) but I'm pretty sure Japan is just as strict as the US is about who gets to practice medicine. Probably more so since its a nation with national health care and probably doesn't want you wasting money on a quack

My guess is Urahara pulled some behind the scenes strings and managed to create a fake background for isshin.

[Bells]

As i don't think Ichigo's mom (whose name i keep forgetting) would be a tremendous healer in the first place... if isshin gets seriously injured, is quite likely that Urahara will be the healer in charge of saving the day here...

Also... curious little thing... has Ishin ever been in the same scene as Matsumoto and or Hitsugaya?

[Aerozord]

Also... curious little thing... has Ishin ever been in the same scene as Matsumoto and or Hitsugaya?

he was there during the big fight with Aizen but they were all fairly pwned at the time with bigger concerns.

Besides that the only active soul reaper to be in the same place as him is Rukia. This is however assuming they didn't run into him during that short time they were in Ichigo's room but thats fairly reasonable.

[Bells]

Maybe its the whole arranged marriage thing... but the fact that we don`t know who Ishida's mother really is now concerns me...

Ichigo and Ganju being cosins is fine, but Ichigo and Ishida being brothers? C'mon now...

[Sithdarth]

I got the distinct impression that the maid might have something to do with Ishida's birth. I could be wrong but I was definitely picking up a vibe.

[Aerozord]

I got the distinct impression that the maid might have something to do with Ishida's birth. I could be wrong but I was definitely picking up a vibe.

agreed.

there was something else, it seemed Uryu's dad and Ichigo's father were close. Despite their current rift (considering her death its to be expected) they still spoke to each other, and do one another favors.

Unless this is some Japanese, you married my cousin thus I am forever amicable to you

[Bells]

iguess its more in the tone of Ryuuken going "if you marry her she will be happier, but then you let her die you stupid fuck"

[Sithdarth]

Well this week was basically a throw away. Basically nothing happened at all.

[Ryong]

Hey we got to know that the Quincy really are dicks about blood purity and now we know the name of Isshin's zanpakutou!

Now we just have to figure out what's it actually do.

[phil_]

Now we just have to figure out what's it actually do.I think it burns.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

His sword is based on the sun. So it's safe to say it's a Fire type Zanpaktou.

Also I am now convinced that Hallow is Zangetsu before he was turned into a Zanpaktou.

[Sithdarth]

now we know the name of Isshin's zanpakutou!

We knew that back during the "Totally Not Chamber of Spirit and Time Training" when Isshin was doing his monologue/foreshadowing thing about what Ichigo was going through.

[Aerozord]

It did move the story forward, even if it didn't add much. Its one of those chapters you need to set up the actual story in the next. Also I am happy to learn his zanpakto is different from zangetsu. I was worried their weapons were essentially the same but they appear to be completely different classes.


Also I am now convinced that Hallow is Zangetsu before he was turned into a Zanpaktou.

I'm not as convinced thats the specific reason, but thats definitely Ichigo's final hollow form.

[Sithdarth]

Still not a whole lot going on. At least next week should be relatively more interesting. Also, I guess you did find out quite a bit more about where that thing came from with maybe a little foreshadowing about the origins of Ichigo.

[Ryong]

Hey we found out bow size doesn't matter for the damage.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Hey we found out bow size doesn't matter for the damage.

Which is pretty cool considering the kinds of traps and counters she can set.


Not much happened but I enjoyed the battle. Also I've never seen Aizen smile like that in a while.

[Aerozord]

Ok I'll be honest I was expecting her to be abit of a paper tiger but even accounting for strategy if she could handle an attack like that and one shot a menos class she has to be pretty freakin powerful

[Bells]

well... pure blood and all...


Also, i think we are seeing the tone for the next 5 chapters or so right now... i don`t expect anything major, considering how time is supposed to skip through the next few episodes... maybe 5 chapters is a conservative pace.

Plus, Ryuuken and Isshin still need to meet...

[Aerozord]

speaking of, because of Kubo shortening the series did he abandon the negative numbered chapters idea? The intent was to make it possible to read the story in chronological order starting from chapter -108 but we haven't seen any in awhile.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

speaking of, because of Kubo shortening the series did he abandon the negative numbered chapters idea? The intent was to make it possible to read the story in chronological order starting from chapter -108 but we haven't seen any in awhile.

Probably, either that or he forgot.

[Arcanum]

Yayyyy more nothing! Okay, well, we learned that the hollow was made from a dead shinigami but other than that tiny detail we just got a whole lot of nothing.

[Aerozord]

we did find out her friends are sex crazed. Why do I get the sneaking suspicion thats Tatsuki's mom

[phil_]

Man, Urahara. Isshin and Masaki are all "He's cool; she's cool; I wanna meet again," and I'm ready for some stupid adorable love carp, but he has to get his mysterious untrustworthy ally question mark into the scene and goof everything up.

[Aerozord]

Oh no, I just realized we will probably never learn the answer to the most important question of the series. Where did Urahara get that hat

[Kyanbu The Legend]

He saw it in a clothing store at the Karakura Mall, tryed it on, felt fabulous, and bought it.


The End.

[Aerozord]

come on are you honestly saying you wouldn't enjoy that chapter? Or atleast that you wouldn't enjoy it more than this weeks

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I didn't say I wouldn't enjoy it. :smug:

Complete with him posing in front of the mirror for a good 5 pages before saying "I'll take it!".

[Aerozord]

I just realized this seems abit ... well his apparent age seems to be atleast late 20's probably 30's, and she's still in high school.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Likely older seeing as Shinigami can live and stay young for hundreds of years.

[Sithdarth]

Well at least now everyone is together and there is something interesting going on.

[phil_]

"What's this hole? Why does she look like she's in pain?"

'CAUSE THERE'S A HOLE IN HER CHEST, DINGBAT!I just realized this seems abit ... well his apparent age seems to be atleast late 20's probably 30's, and she's still in high school.Yeah, it's messed up. Doesn't stop me from being disappointed that we're pretty definitely not getting stupid adorable love carp.

[Bells]

well that was interesting. Story seems to be picking up the pace...

Interesting thing though, we have a mention to Ryuuken´s father. Ishida´s Grandpa... maybe he will show up soon enough, considering that his death happened way back in Arc 1 of the story when Mayuri delayed the rescue team that was supposed to save him from Hollow attacks, i guess we can kinda see the type of action coming in the next chapters... however, since Ryuuken´s father trained Uryu, and Uryu is not born yet... maybe not?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Oh maybe things might clear up faster then I thought.


Things are starting to really get interesting, and her infection just might explain how Ichigo got his hallow powers.

[Aerozord]

How much you wanna bet this is also supposed to explain Ichigo's hollow affinity

[Sithdarth]

Exposition dump, woo!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Well this chapter explained a lot. Even a few things it may not have been directly trying to explain.

[Aerozord]

...did he just say he was using human souls? Everyone is 100% ok with this?

Also, what bound the vaizards?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

No, Issida's dad wasn't too happy about that little detail.

[Aerozord]

he didn't seem to have a reaction at all, he seemed to only really be upset for thinking he wouldn't go through with the process.

[phil_]

Guys! Kubo almost has these lights untangled! Christmas isn't cancelled this year!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Damn that went by lightning fast! He must really want to show us that fated battle between Grand Fisher and Ichigo's Badass mom. (she sounds like and awesome women so far)

[Aerozord]

I like the characterization here. I know this is a weird thing to say but the way they interact just feels right.

Also, nice job explaining why he didn't instantly get his powers back the moment Misaki died, was wondering how they were gonna get around that. I'm guessing the moment his powers returned was about the time Ichigo got that charm that saved Kon. Which if I recall correctly was right before he went to soul society.

[Bells]

Kubo has putted his Retcon pen on the table and yelled to any and all who would hear it "LETS DU DIS!!!"

Yeah, i like this... now let just see how much of a flip this is going to be...

Cause you have to imagine that Aizen would have keep tabs on those two... or maybe the Super Nazi Quincy squad were the ones behind her death... it's revenge plot time!

[Aerozord]

I dont think this is a retcon (by which I mean I think this was intended) mostly because her death never made any sense. Why did the hollow leave Ichigo alive at all for example.

My opinion will change instantly though if Grand Fisher didn't kill her this would create plot holes like how him and Urahara were talking about how he killed her and how that was supposed to be how Ichigo got fullbring

[Sithdarth]

Welp at least that was somewhat interesting.

[Aerozord]

wait, so... it wasn't grand fisher that killed her? I'm confused at what exactly the explanation was for her death. Was it some pseudo-power steal thing he just magically did? Did he just happen to kill her right as grand fisher attacked?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

He stole her powers. Which rendered her defenseless at the worst possible time. Also oh shit I didn't know "he" ended up switching sides. Though this might be Kubo trying to sit up "his" destined battle against Ichigo. Of course "he" might be working as a double agent. Otherwise "his" reason for joining would make no sense.

[Bells]

Guys... guys....

....Kubo revealed his master Plan... Quincies are Goddamn fucking spiritual vampires

[Sithdarth]

So I guess Ichigo just had to accept the fact that he was part hollow or something? I thought we were already past that but I guess not completely.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I think it was more that he had to learn about his qunicy nature. He's been content about his hallow powers since his vizard training.

It's also possible that since he technically lost the original Zangetsu during his fight with Aizen. He may have forgotten about his hallow nature (he never uses his mask again) until now. Which is why he chose to befriend instead of fight them.

[Aerozord]

ok that... was pretty weak

[Sithdarth]

At this point every chapter that isn't about Kenpachi and his sword being uber baddasses together is a waste of time.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

We'll see Kenpachi asserting the pecking order all over everyone asses soon enough.

Also wow komamura's great grand father must be ancient. lol But joke aside looks like we might be seeing one heck of a large training arc. Unless Kubo Montages through it.

You know it would be some real shit if Ichigo meets the Soul king face to face only to reveal that Ichigo was really Aizen all along in an attempt to get to the soul palace. And that the real Ichigo is still being held captive by the Quincy.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

New chapter:

So apparently the original Zangetsu was born from ichigo's quincy powers with a hallow mix. This new Zangetsu is born from the remains of White. The Hollow that infected Ichigo's mother and is the real Zangetsu. In other words, Ichigo's been using his Quincy powers all along.

[Bells]

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[Aerozord]

ok now THIS feels like a retcon. I mean looking back I do see the similarities but the way zangetsu behaved wouldn't make much sense not to mention its obvious similarity to his father's. Then there was that time when he first got zangetsu, which he identified because as a quincy told him a soul reapers spirit ribbon is red.

The only way this works is if this was not only overly elaborate but also if he legitimately had Ichigo's best interests in mind.

Oh and another implication. If those were quincy powers, also means he hasn't been purifying those hollows either. Though I cant recall a hollow he's killed since getting zangetsu

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Zangetsu was regarded as a fake Zanpaktou, as it wasn't formed from an Asachi. It's possible that Zangetsu could have had the same functions and aura/spirit ribbon as a real Zanpaktou to an extent despite being just a replica of one since Ichigo does have Shinigami blood. It shouldn't be too much of a stretch to say Zangetsu is a Quincy based Zanpaktou born from a mixture of Ichigo's Quincy and Hallow powers and was able to mimic the spirit ribbon/aura of a Shinigami thanks to Ichigo's natural Shinigami blood.

[Aerozord]

I get the feeling I'm wrong, or rather I was right to begin with and this is totally a retcon but... it seems to add up to me

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Yeah this isn't a retcon. As there's room for it to fit in and it explains why ichigo hollowfied so much, as well as why it eventually stopped happening.

I'm gonna miss old man Zangetsu. He may not have been the real deal but he was still a mentor to ichigo. Also holy shit Ichigo is about to get even more op then he's ever been before.


Also KUBO!!! You bastard! Now I have to wait another week to see his sword!!!!!! >o<

[Sithdarth]

Classic Kubo. At least now since I want to see Ichigo's sword so much we might get a Kenpachi chapter instead.

[Aerozord]

Now it makes sense why they couldn't steal Ichigo's bankai

[Bells]

son of a bitch...

i hate when they do this!! I actually wanted to see more of that... now i have to wait another week... gaaah!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Now it makes sense why they couldn't steal Ichigo's bankai

Unfortunately this means he won't be so lucky next time.

[Arcanum]

Except they still need complete understanding of a Bankai's abilities in order to steal it.

And the old reasoning could still apply, that his Bankai is still growing and evolving, thus preventing them from stealing its full power.

[Aerozord]

Except they still need complete understanding of a Bankai's abilities in order to steal it.

And the old reasoning could still apply, that his Bankai is still growing and evolving, thus preventing them from stealing its full power.

if you believe head quincy guy, no it does not. That was the head captains guess as to why it couldn't be stolen, and that is not the reason

[Sithdarth]

Well that was somewhat unexpected but kind of made sense. I wonder if the other dual zanpakuto came from a single asauchi or if they are actually two distinct asauchi.

[Bells]

Totally worth the wait... should be interesting to see how Ichigo's fighting style is going to change now with his zanpakuto.

Also i recalled how his hollow side made a point of mentioning multiple times in the past how HE was the one that showed Ichigo how to use the Getsuga Tenshou first... nice touch.

[phil_]

So close to swordchucks. So close, yet so far. Also he's totally going to use those things as a bow eventually.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

So now he has two blades. Representing both sides.

... Worth the wait. Shame the entire chapter was spent building up suspense.

[Aerozord]

yea I liked it, and I think it solved something thats been nagging people.

Basically Ichigo is saying that pseudo-zangetsu was still zangetsu. Back to the old idea that they both represented different aspects of a singular source of power.

OH, now that he has dual swords I hope against hope for some training with the only two others to have them.

[phil_]

Character dumps are the most boring chapters.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Character dumps are the most boring chapters.

They totally are.

Wait, so Stern Ritter's are ranked A to Z? Yhwach was alive 1000 years ago, right? The Quincies are officially Spirit Nazis now, so he's presumably German. So shouldn't he be speaking Old English and we have Stern Ritter Æ or whatever?

[Aerozord]

This is something I honestly hadn't considered. These quincies are all dead. I know its such a duh but I'm so used to them as living humans the thought didn't occur to me.

Another thing I realized, Uryu is the last living quincy? No. First off there is his dad which they just made a point is a pure quincy, another point they made is his mother is not thus Uryu wouldn't be.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

So Uryu is next in line to become king. Guess he got sick of kissing the ground so much due to the worf effect.

Uryu's been quite all chapter. I wonder just how power he's gotten so far.

[phil_]

I wonder just how power he's gotten so far.Powerful enough to do something cool then get beaten. Coincidentally, this is how powerful everyone is.So shouldn't he be speaking Old English and we have Stern Ritter Æ or whatever?There was a reform movement around the time the letters "f" and "s" got differentiated.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

New Chapter:

So it appears that Uryu may have joined as a double agent, and Bach just figured it out, and by making him his successor. He's placed a spot light and a target over his head. Rather he wanted to or not, Uryu now as no choice but to follow Bach's orders.

Also Quincy prostitutes... oh Kubo. :rolleyes:

And it seems the remaining Arrancar's have been gathered. But for what?

[Mr.Bookworm]

It's impressive how every single Stern Ritter we've seen has a really stupid name. Like, they make the Arrancar clown squad from back when look like a collection of Steves.

You'd think Kubo would get one above that just by sheer probability.

[Arcanum]

I haven't actually read any of the Stern Ritter's names. They get introduced like 4 per page, and more show up every other chapter, and if they are truly A through Z then that's 26 names and like hell I'm going to remember all of them.