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Fifthfiend
07-12-2009, 02:13 AM
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Talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk
I did like how it wasn't even a whole chapter before the takebacks on Captain Stoner getting owned.
Aerozord
07-12-2009, 02:38 AM
Well atleast we know where Aizens supposed gilleon army was being held.
And where is that captains current vice captain anyways?
Bells
07-12-2009, 06:43 PM
NaNao? She seems like a NonFighter, so she is probably back at home... or with Urahara and Yoruichi.
Also, Cpt Tuberculosis still has a Gaping hole in the chest, so it's not sunshine and mirrors all around.
Plus, most of the Vaizard's mask are totally awesome!
MasterOfMagic
07-12-2009, 07:39 PM
Also, Cpt Tuberculosis still has a Gaping hole in the chest, so it's not sunshine and mirrors all around.
No, no, see, that hole just happened to be at the exact spot all his disease had gathered at, because of all the soul pressure or something, so not only is he not dead, he's cured now!
EDIT: Also: "Are those all gillians..!? You know, the ones we can each kill hundreds of in one swipe!? Oh no!"
Fifthfiend
07-12-2009, 07:54 PM
EDIT: Also: "Are those all gillians..!? You know, the ones we can each kill hundreds of in one swipe!? Oh no!"
Yeah it's nice to be reminded that Bleach's completely retarded disconnect between reality and words people say goes both ways.
Bells
07-12-2009, 09:49 PM
Just keep in mind that the main goal there is not to kill all the Captains, just to weaken them enough so that Aizen can destroy Karakura... from that perspective having 4 Super Espadas (i count Wonderweiss) and a Giant Gillian-Puking Machine can be handy!
EVILNess
07-12-2009, 10:35 PM
Remember when the manga wasn't trying to follow like 48 different "important" characters?
Fifthfiend
07-17-2009, 11:56 AM
Boring jerkoff mook battle, maybe next week will be cool.
Aerozord
07-18-2009, 12:02 AM
why did he remove the mask?
Bells
07-18-2009, 11:06 PM
why did he remove the mask?
Because he is a Badass...
Also, i'm not so much wondering IF someone blocked that attack... i'm more in the "WHICH ONE" blocked that attack.
Because, Shinji's attack? Yeah. That totally got blocked right there...
Doc ock rokc
07-19-2009, 02:36 AM
I bet now Kenpachi is wishing he stayed to protect the town
EVILNess
07-19-2009, 04:53 AM
I bet now Kenpachi is wishing he stayed to protect the town
Nah, cause if he did that then there wouldn't be a fight to drag out.
He would use both hands and wipe them out.
Also: $20 Kenpachi's sword is a kidou type.
BitVyper
07-19-2009, 09:10 AM
If they just turned it into the Kenpachi show, I might actually read Bleach.
Aerozord
07-19-2009, 06:08 PM
that would turn him into a god-mode sue since, this is freakin kenpachi, he would run in, drag out the fight, then ultimately win because the only reason they lived this long is because he was holding back
Charm
07-21-2009, 06:47 AM
Someone commented in the previous thread that the void Wunderweiss and co came through may be used by the others to get through... I hope they do and get to see Unohana fight cos I'm curious why even Shunsui would be scared of her.
greed
08-07-2009, 07:28 AM
Okay today's chapter made me laugh,
Soi Fon wasn't bitchy to Fat Wizard Vizard, because of duty or shinigaminess, but cause she hates Urahara for stealing her girlfriend. Sad to see Awesome Skull Barragan go, but it's a fitting end for someone whose release is called Arrogante at least.
Aerozord
08-07-2009, 02:22 PM
though I am liking Soi Fon less and less as it becomes apparent her entire personality can be summed up as self-absorbed brat.
Well maybe not self-absorbed as its directed to someone else and not herself, but not sure what you call that
Bells
08-07-2009, 03:00 PM
i believe she would qualify as a dick actually...
But yeah, at least they gave Barragan a decent fight with a plausible ending. IF he is really KO that is...
Bard The 5th LW
08-07-2009, 04:29 PM
Nah, cause if he did that then there wouldn't be a fight to drag out.
He would use both hands and wipe them out.
Also: $20 Kenpachi's sword is a kidou type.
If Kenpachi reaches shikai, let alone Bankai, the universe will implode.
Donomni
08-07-2009, 10:55 PM
Nah, just whoever actually sees the release.
Perfect for him to be comically pissed off about it.
Fifthfiend
08-21-2009, 12:21 AM
I didn't think it was possible for them to kill Barrigan in a way that remotely lived up to how awesome he was but Fats McMagic got probably as close as you could get (while once again demonstrating Bleach von Bleachwriter's pathological hatred of arms).
EDIT Just once, just once I'd like to see somebody lose a leg.
They don't even need them to move around!
Aerozord
08-21-2009, 01:54 AM
Well, that was fairly awesome. Though I liked what he said the best. That the only way his plan would work is if all the arrogant boasting he was continually spewing was actually accurate.
EDIT Just once, just once I'd like to see somebody lose a leg.
They don't even need them to move around!
Actually they do. They dont really fly they just materialize something in the air to stand on.
greed
08-21-2009, 12:06 PM
Then they just materialise something under the stump, still works. Like a spiritual peg leg.
Donomni
08-21-2009, 01:16 PM
...now I've got Pirate Death Gods hanging around in my head.
Thanks, seriously(No really, it's awesome!).
Ryong
09-04-2009, 05:06 PM
Last chapter:
Stark summoned some wolves. I guess he'll start kicking them.
Fifthfiend
09-04-2009, 08:44 PM
Naw man, it is the wolves themselves which are going to kick.
I mean it seems like a pretty inefficient allocation of wolfishness but I guess when you're the dude with the two hundred magical soul-devouring wolves it's pretty much your call how to use 'em.
Also Starfro the Vaizard has probably the best shikai ever. The only thing that could improve it would be if it had "OWNED" written across it in huge as fuck letters.
Honestly between the five story tall club made of fire and the arrankarzanpakto army of spirit-wolves this is getting to be the kind of top-quality ridiculousness that made Bleach worth a goddamn in the first place.
Then they just materialise something under the stump, still works. Like a spiritual peg leg.
...now I've got Pirate Death Gods hanging around in my head.
Thanks, seriously(No really, it's awesome!).
Hell fuck yes. This should totally happen.
I mean shit make it a filler arc, something.
Aerozord
09-04-2009, 10:18 PM
Well speaking of last chapter, you gotta love any ruler with such absolute power he was gonna start a civil war out of boredom.
This I think will be a set up to something far better. Was nice to see abit more characterization of these guys too. I didn't realize Love was the serious strategist type. Though Fifth I dont see why you think its made of fire?
Fun Fact: First read it as Metal Cudgel Finger, thinking his zanpakto was basically equivalent of flipping him the bird
Sithdarth
09-04-2009, 10:28 PM
I think with the hollow mask on he swung that fucker so fast it lit on fire from air resistance like a spacecraft reentering Earth's atmosphere.
Edit: It occurs if his shikai is that friggen huge his Bankai must be the size of a small state.
Aerozord
09-05-2009, 12:09 AM
wasn't he a vice- captian though? (ie no bankai)
Sithdarth
09-05-2009, 12:17 AM
wasn't he a vice- captian though? (ie no bankai)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whew man I mean wow. Putting aside for now that in Bleach you can't say the only rule is there are no rules because it would still find a way to break that rule, We've got a Vice-Captain and a Third seat at least with Bankai (not to mention the hero but that's exempt really) and they seem to be significantly less powerful than any Vizard sans mask. Heck the Vizards as a whole seem to have been stronger than the new captains before the whole hollow thing. That and even if he doesn't have use of his Bankai it still exists as a possibility to be considered.
Aerozord
09-05-2009, 12:30 AM
though it was made a point even being able to get bankai is rare and as a rule such people are made captain. Ikkaku isn't because he intentionally hides it for that specific reason, and Renji isn't because he just obtained it. We do also know being strong doesn't equal bankai, see kenpachi. heck we just saw a fat man beat a far more litteral god of death without ANY zanpakto.
Though I do realize its possible, just saying I doubt it and in fact hope they dont. It says alot about these guys that they dont even need bankai to shame the other captains
Fifthfiend
09-05-2009, 01:00 AM
it was made a point even being able to get bankai is rare
And so you can assume that basically everybody has one.
**BLEACH**
Mesden
09-11-2009, 01:01 PM
This is all moot because both Rose and Love were captains. There are 4 vaizard captains, in order of seniority are Shinji, Kensei, Love, and Rose (who was incredibly new when they TBTP arc happened). To that we have four vice captains in Hiyori, Power Ranger Girl, Lisa and Tubby McMagic.
So, those four + Aizen + Gin + The fantabulous bromance duo + Old man captain + Urahara + Unohana (DON'T THINK WE'VE FORGOTTEN KISHI) amounts to 11 Bankais we haven't seen yet that we're SURE are left (Possibly add Yoruichi to that list but I think she might be a special case like the kido crew).
edit: you know I feel like a total bleach manga fanatic dork spelling this out but I don't think I've ever actually read a Bleach issue more than once and I remember all this crap pretty easily.
Aerozord
09-12-2009, 01:09 AM
I am so so happy they made those doggies more then just, well, wolves. I wonder what that whole using his soul thing was about. way he said it sounded like he meant all of them were like that. Maybe its just mystic technobabble
Bells
09-17-2009, 02:56 PM
Current manga chapter is especially creepy in the wtf'ery scale.
I'm not sure if it was all pure awesome or a extremely dangerous acid trip.
Either way, Shunsui is officially scary now...
Ryong
09-17-2009, 03:12 PM
I have no freaking idea what just happened in the last chapter.
The shikai allows him to make blades of wind, the bankai was making sense until he started shouting colors. And then I have no idea what happened. Also, Stark is sad and I totally hope something good happens to him. But he'll probably just die :(
MasterOfMagic
09-17-2009, 03:40 PM
I don't think that's his Bankai. They tend to make a big deal out of those, a few pages of build up and all that, and we got no such thing.
Its just his Skihai or however you spell it.
Aerozord
09-17-2009, 03:50 PM
that is one nasty little ability, tricky as it is. If he would have just kept his mouth shut this probably would have been over already. Though with his personality he seems to avoid curbstomping as much as possible
Fifthfiend
09-17-2009, 03:56 PM
I think what I like best about Shunsui is he will take a shot at you when you are doing your pre-battle monologue, swing for your head while you're in the middle of charging your attack, stab you in the back while you're fighting two other guys, whatever, homes doesn't give a fuck.
Also his power is literally "My power does whatever the fuck it wants." Goddamn, yes.
Also also totally workin' on my Stark/Shunsui slashfic although God knows I'm not the first one to that party.
EDIT: OMG OMG OMG
Shunsui's power is Calvinball
Sithdarth
09-17-2009, 08:47 PM
I am so so happy they made those doggies more then just, well, wolves. I wonder what that whole using his soul thing was about. way he said it sounded like he meant all of them were like that. Maybe its just mystic technobabble
I'm not exactly sure but if you mean his use of "we" that is just because he is two souls now. So he basically says we instead of I which can get confusing at times.
Ryong
09-17-2009, 09:08 PM
I don't think that's his Bankai. They tend to make a big deal out of those, a few pages of build up and all that, and we got no such thing.
Its just his Skihai or however you spell it.
Okay, I was wrong. Each of his zanpakutou has a different shikai. One does blades of wind, the other is this one. He STILL has his bankai left. Possibly TWO.
Bells
09-17-2009, 09:16 PM
Shunsui's power is Calvinball
I... think you're right!!
So far he showed 3 skills: He can kill you by stepping in your shadow. He can kill you by staying at Higher ground than you, and he can be invincible by shouting certain colors at the right time.... while killing you with the same move.
...And that's pre-bankai powers.
........... and this guy thinks Unohana is Scary.
Again, another captain makes Unohana looks like the Devil by Proxy.
I honestly think now that the Bleach Captains could actually beat the Cast of Dragonball Z.....
MasterOfMagic
09-17-2009, 10:12 PM
EDIT: OMG OMG OMG
Shunsui's power is Calvinball
OMG!
That's the best fucking revelation ever!
EDIT:
Okay, I was wrong. Each of his zanpakutou has a different shikai. One does blades of wind, the other is this one. He STILL has his bankai left. Possibly TWO.
He also hasn't used the shikai together yet. That's the logical next step. Then Bankai. Then the other. Then the combo breaker double bankai.
CABAL49
09-17-2009, 11:25 PM
Again, another captain makes Unohana looks like the Devil by Proxy.
I honestly think now that the Bleach Captains could actually beat the Cast of Dragonball Z.....
That is until Goku does a fusion with Vegeta and they go Super Saiyan 50.
But yeah, I want to see some Unohana action. Why is everyone afraid of her?
Aerozord
09-17-2009, 11:33 PM
Shunsui's power is Calvinball
say what you want about Bleach, but I think this puts it as best manga ever. Though hard to do anything but go downhill after that
Mesden
09-20-2009, 08:13 PM
As awesome as all of this, I'm having a hard time figuring out how oldguy Captain gave the bromantic duo troubles. I mean, one can shoot all his fire back at him and the other can defy the laws of reality. I know the old dog is a tough customer but burning everything in the universe to ash doesn't matter when Shunsui changes the laws of the universe.
Anyhow, if his Bankai isn't in the form of a stuffed tiger, I will be very disappointed.
Wigmund
09-20-2009, 09:32 PM
say what you want about Bleach, but I think this puts it as best manga ever. Though hard to do anything but go downhill after that
There's always Kenpachi reaching bankai.
Sithdarth
09-20-2009, 10:22 PM
As awesome as all of this, I'm having a hard time figuring out how oldguy Captain gave the bromantic duo troubles. I mean, one can shoot all his fire back at him and the other can defy the laws of reality. I know the old dog is a tough customer but burning everything in the universe to ash doesn't matter when Shunsui changes the laws of the universe.
Its probably a matter of shear unadulterated power combined with about a million years of combat experience. The fire pretty much wipes out shadows, old guy captain seems to prefer fighting topless putting a dent in the color thing, I don't seem him having much trouble reducing high ground to ash and leveling the field as it where, and while fire isn't material I don't think it counts as a reflectable energy attack (Although there is probably more to that Zanpakuto than just that). Combine all that with vastly superior experience, a nigh infinite well of spiritual energy (by comparison), and the ability to flash vaporize them and its not hard to imagine a victory. That and he was totally their teacher and so probably knows absolutely almost everything about how they fight which is a problem because they both seem to rely to some degree on surprise and ignorance.
edit: and also oldguy Captain is just that badass.
Mesden
09-20-2009, 11:03 PM
You left out the most important part of Shunsui's power thusfar.
The one that goes "Can't hit me unless my zanpaktou says it's okay."
Sithdarth
09-20-2009, 11:17 PM
You left out the most important part of Shunsui's power thusfar.
The one that goes "Can't hit me unless my zanpaktou says it's okay."
I got the dual impression that his zanpakuto is limited to well established Japanese children's games (or slight variations there of) and is completely bound by those rules and that is really doesn't give a shit about his actual well being and if he loses he loses and that's that. At the very least he seemed to indicate when first using the power that the games themselves were fair as a condition on the power and his zanpakuto really didn't care either way who wins. That being one of the reasons he really didn't like using those powers in the first place.
Mesden
09-21-2009, 12:26 AM
Yes, and by the glorious virtue of Bleach, I suppose the power is mitigated when you know the rules of the game, but you can not honestly tell me that Old Man would simultaneously be victorious at every Japanese Children's game ever to be able to hit him. It's like right now in the thing, you can only do scathing damage on layered clothing by calling out the colors of what you're hitting or some ridiculous nonsense.
Which means, if Shunsui doesn't flat out tell you the rules of whatever his broken ass zanpaktou is doing, then you're not going to hurt him and he's going to hurt you.
Anyhow, I'm just waiting for the Brotastical Buddies to both go bankai and both combine into some kind of ridiculously-powerful-super-connected-combo-but-totally-straight-they're-just-really-good-friends-like-really-good-friends.
Aerozord
09-21-2009, 02:52 PM
There's always Kenpachi reaching bankai.
I disagree, kenpachi is awesome because he says "bankai? what do I need that for"
Yes, and by the glorious virtue of Bleach, I suppose the power is mitigated when you know the rules of the game, but you can not honestly tell me that Old Man would simultaneously be victorious at every Japanese Children's game ever to be able to hit him. It's like right now in the thing, you can only do scathing damage on layered clothing by calling out the colors of what you're hitting or some ridiculous nonsense.
Which means, if Shunsui doesn't flat out tell you the rules of whatever his broken ass zanpaktou is doing, then you're not going to hurt him and he's going to hurt you.
Anyhow, I'm just waiting for the Brotastical Buddies to both go bankai and both combine into some kind of ridiculously-powerful-super-connected-combo-but-totally-straight-they're-just-really-good-friends-like-really-good-friends.
thats just it though, he tells you the rules. He told a flat out enemy, I doubt he'd keep it from his mentor.
And old guy probably is a master of all children games since he was alive when that was litterally the end all be all of entertainment
Sithdarth
09-21-2009, 06:54 PM
I think he also has to call out the name of the children's game that he is playing as well. He might be able to stack them and I'm not entirely sure but those Japanese word's he kept shouting seemed to signify a change or addition to the rules. They where either the names of the games or a command to his zanpakuto to change the rules. Either way if you already know his powers you can anticipate the changes by what he yells to his zanpakuto.
edit: The more I analyze this the more I realize this was a masterwork of balance and awesomeness. It is simultaneously one of the most retardedly powerful abilities while at the same time has exactly the right amount of balance to keep it reasonable and not destroy the story.
Fifthfiend
09-22-2009, 05:17 PM
Captain Slacker: "New game is everyone has to hide in the shadows!!"
Captain Genocide: *Burns shadows*
Captain Slacker: "Okay um, you can only attack when you're standing on a line!"
Captain Genocide: *Burns lines*
Captain Slacker: "Okay everyone can only attack on Tuesday!"
Captain Genocide: *Burns Tuesday*
Captain Slacker: "Oh come on that last one doesn't even physically exist!"
Captain Genocide: *BURN BURN BURN*
Aerozord
09-22-2009, 07:10 PM
nearest i can tell he can just make fire. It isn't a directional attack. Remember those faccion he took out? They basically just spontaniously combusted. He didn't even move. So redirecting it is out when it comes from every direction at once
Fifthfiend
09-22-2009, 07:20 PM
He can direct it too it's just that "direct" equals "massive undodgeable superinferno" which I don't think he'd even use unless he had a really gigantic target or like with Aizen McBrokenpants where you don't even actually know where the hell he is or you are or reality is so your only bet is to just toss up the biggest goddamn net you can manage and hope for the best.
But really I think we're proving too much here given that the whole thing of that fight was that the Captaino Brothers got out of it with only superficial damage which more or less makes sense given their stupidly powerful powers.
Anyhow, I'm just waiting for the Brotastical Buddies to both go bankai and both combine into some kind of ridiculously-powerful-super-connected-combo-but-totally-straight-they're-just-really-good-friends-like-really-good-friends.
Whatever, we all know Stark is Shunsui's OTP.
Mesden
09-25-2009, 12:05 PM
Whatever, we all know Stark is Shunsui's OTP.
I'm...I'm so sad now.
Ryong
09-25-2009, 12:20 PM
I'm seeing a trend of overcompensation among the vizards. And, damn, way to make Stark and Lilynette deaths even more sad, Tite Kubo. Also Aizen doesn't want us to know what do the shikais of Hiyori and Lisa do. What a dick.
Fifthfiend
09-25-2009, 12:45 PM
If Starrk doesn't come back after this I am sending Tite Kubo a sternly worded letter.
Aerozord
09-25-2009, 04:17 PM
I'm seeing a trend of overcompensation among the vizards. And, damn, way to make Stark and Lilynette deaths even more sad, Tite Kubo. Also Aizen doesn't want us to know what do the shikais of Hiyori and Lisa do. What a dick.
they looked like direct attack types. Normally the shikai that looks like normal weapons are just that.
And that suprise at the end I dont know, I kinda saw it coming. but now I wonder if Aizen really intends to just pick up and leave. which would be smart I mean he's lost. The vaizards radically tipped things out of his favor and unless he can one-on-one stomp on the head captain he no longer has much of a shot
thats all using Bleach logic of course. You know there has to be SOMEONE with aizen's bane
greed
10-09-2009, 04:10 AM
So who was it asking for something other than arms to get cut off?
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Grimpond
10-09-2009, 07:40 AM
what the fuck Hiyori, all you had to do was stand still. Ugh.
Fifthfiend
10-09-2009, 11:57 AM
Totally turning that page into an avatar/sig combo
MasterOfMagic
10-09-2009, 11:59 AM
Oh shit, I'd but upset, but as long as Aizen doesn't steal her lower half or something, mc-big-tits will just erase the event.
Fifthfiend
10-09-2009, 12:03 PM
I just realized that would be a total spoiler for the non-manga readers. :(
Mesden
10-09-2009, 12:08 PM
Books and comics thread. Gonna spoiler because I'm not sure if this is a spoiler thread or not yet:
Just another strip that proves that Gin is a totally better villain than Aizen. Even when they both kill someone off, Gin does it faster, better, and slicker than Aizen's smugslices ever could.
Kensei's bankai looks stylistically exactly like that armadillo dude Chad beat up (fallen espada peeps) and also like Ikkaku (Baldy). Not gonna assume anything though, because his release was just a combat knife, but it shot wind lasers that exploded so maybe he'll punch lightningbolts that explode more lightning or something.
Ryong
10-09-2009, 12:09 PM
Where the hell is Unohana for them to think about Orihime first?
Mesden
10-09-2009, 12:12 PM
Unohana can heal the most grievous of wounds. Orihime can literally reverse death. There's no comparison.
Anyhow, betting good money Unohana's gonna be busy beating up Yammy after team-can't-do-anything-no-matter-how-cool-they-are (Chad-Renji, Rukia is except because Rukia rules) gets swatted around by him.
MasterOfMagic
10-09-2009, 12:16 PM
Yeah, I thought it was cool to leave things unspoilered in this particular thread. We have been for a while, and somewhere someone said the anime folks should stick to a TV-forum thread or something.
Maybe I dreamed it. It happens.
Bells
10-09-2009, 12:26 PM
I'm actually glad the turned back to Ichigo... they were dwelling in Karakura for too long now.
But now that Stark has been defeated, that only means that Yammy can ALSO be defeated. specially considering that Yammy basically eats energy to become stronger and bigger and he is facing Unohana AND Mayuri.
It's a matter of time now.
And yeah, Orihime can cure all, but i would rather see someone getting killed or at least put of action...
Also, the current development gives power to my idea that there is a chance Grimmjow is still alive and will become part of Ichigo's group to get revenge o Aizen.... Also makes me ask where the flipping hell is Urahara and Yoruichi....
greed
10-09-2009, 12:51 PM
Yeah, I thought it was cool to leave things unspoilered in this particular thread. We have been for a while, and somewhere someone said the anime folks should stick to a TV-forum thread or something.
Maybe I dreamed it. It happens.
I only spoilered cause I was the first person to post about the new chapter, and unlike text spoilers you'd be spoiled the second you looked at the page. I'll get rid of the swap tags if this falls under the same reason spoiler2 got nixed though.
Also, totally agree with Mesden, Aizen taking over as main villain always kinda annoyed me because he's just too generic or something. He hasn't had any good lines other than that "stand in heaven" one and he lacks style.
Gin on the other pulls shit like this.
Bells
10-09-2009, 01:18 PM
Well, Aizen is supposed to be a Dick... because while he is being a dick and getting you angry and annoyed at him (because he is such a dick), you tend to look at him and attack him and get pissed of at him... and you forget about little things like Gin and Tousen standing right next to him.
And that's when people get cut in half...
Aerozord
10-09-2009, 02:29 PM
I still have this sneaking suspicion Aizen's fellow captains are biding their time. Tousen upfront isn't motivated specifically to help Aizen, and its fairly clear he is aiming for something else. Gin is either the type to be a dick just to be a dick (which is totally possible) or he has his own agenda. He's done things on his own that cant be justified as "helping Aizen"
greed
10-11-2009, 12:53 PM
Well, Aizen is supposed to be a Dick... because while he is being a dick and getting you angry and annoyed at him (because he is such a dick), you tend to look at him and attack him and get pissed of at him... and you forget about little things like Gin and Tousen standing right next to him.
And that's when people get cut in half...
I didn't say he was a dick, I said he was generic. Honestly it would be better if he was more of a dick cause then he'd reach that Officer Tenpenny/Spandam level of being so goddamn unlikeable it is incredibly awesome when they're finally cut down. As it is Gin(due to Rukia) and Mayuri(due to.. every goddamn thing he's ever done in this manga) both outclass him in dickishness, especially Mayuri. I mean yeah what he did to Hinamori was bad but Gin and Tousen did the same to their lieutenants, and they didn't become half as annoying as she did. Aizen's just kind of like a blank box with "insert villain here" written on it. Not as hateable as Mayuri or Nnoitora, not as crazy as Tousen, not as badass as Stark, Barragan or Gin not as good a foil for the hero as Grimmjow, Ulq or way back Byakuya was. All he has is that he's polite and unflappable. Eh maybe he'll be more interesting when/if he does get flapped.
Bells
10-11-2009, 01:30 PM
Well, you see, you just noted that Gin Screwed with Kira's mind and that he didn't became annoying because of that... there is something wrong with that logic.
greed
10-11-2009, 02:25 PM
Huh? I was saying that Hinamori being more annoying made her unsympathetic, so Aizen hurting her didn't really make me hate him more. She was obviously designed to be pitiful and make people dislike Aizen but she irritates me so it didn't work that well.
Kira didn't become annoying from being betrayed, he got more badass as seen at the start of this arc. And Tousen's lieutenant with the 69 tattoo whose name I have forgotten, well he remains as ever largely irrelevant.
Basically the lieutenants being betrayed din't really make me hate any of the villains much. Though it might have if I cared about Hinamori.
Kyanbu The Legend
10-14-2009, 12:59 AM
I'm actually glad the turned back to Ichigo... they were dwelling in Karakura for too long now.
But now that Stark has been defeated, that only means that Yammy can ALSO be defeated. specially considering that Yammy basically eats energy to become stronger and bigger and he is facing Unohana AND Mayuri.
It's a matter of time now.
And yeah, Orihime can cure all, but i would rather see someone getting killed or at least put of action...
Also, the current development gives power to my idea that there is a chance Grimmjow is still alive and will become part of Ichigo's group to get revenge o Aizen.... Also makes me ask where the flipping hell is Urahara and Yoruichi....
Probably waiting for Ichigo to return. Or preparing to open up the gate so Ichigo and co can escape.
Or getting intimate.
greed
10-16-2009, 01:12 AM
New chapter.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/gr33d_2007/10.jpg
Does anyone else see the meme?
Grimpond
10-16-2009, 06:44 AM
FFFFFF-
....Yeah, that's still awesome. I liked the look he had when he finally put his mask on
Aerozord
10-16-2009, 04:13 PM
thats a new mask right? its not just me is it?
oh and I'm really hoping Ichigo loses this. Otherwise it has the implication that he is on par with the original captains, and that should never happen
Kyanbu The Legend
10-16-2009, 06:12 PM
thats a new mask right? its not just me is it?
oh and I'm really hoping Ichigo loses this. Otherwise it has the implication that he is on par with the original captains, and that should never happen
Yep it's a new mask. :) This could mean that he might be stronger now. It could also mean that he can hollowfi into that other form at will. Or at least knows how to trigger it to happen.
It looks like he might win this one in the next chapter.
Fifthfiend
10-16-2009, 06:29 PM
I like the way Chad is now losing his fights completely off-panel.
Kyanbu The Legend
10-16-2009, 06:36 PM
I like the way Chad is now losing his fights completely off-panel.
It's official now, Kubo hates Chad. Why else won't he let Chad and all his awesomeness win against the arrancars. Now he's not even showing him fight. Speaking of which, since Ichigo's pretty much going beat Yammy (with or without help). I guess we'll finally get to see Aizen fight and maybe use his bankai within the next few chapters. Same goes for Gin.
MasterOfMagic
10-16-2009, 07:22 PM
Dissapointed. I wanted it to be one of the captains, not Ichi. Ah well.
CABAL49
10-17-2009, 10:40 PM
I fall for those cliff hangers every single time.
Arcanum
10-22-2009, 12:22 PM
New one's out. I have to say though, I never really noticed how Ichigo's hollow mask markings changed from time to time until they finally pointed it out. I should probably pay more attention to the actual drawings.
EVILNess
10-22-2009, 12:41 PM
The way this week's ended will be either super awesome for next time, or utterly anti-climatic.
Fifthfiend
10-22-2009, 12:55 PM
So tired of explaining to people not to link from that site so I'm just wordfiltering it, PEACE.
EDIT: Yo Booklerator you didn't gotta delete that post I'm just sayin' host that shit on an Imageshack or somethin'.
Mr.Bookworm
10-22-2009, 01:12 PM
EDIT: Yo Booklerator you didn't gotta delete that post I'm just sayin' host that shit on an Imageshack or somethin'.
Sorry, reflex.
But, yeah, anyway, http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g152/MrBookworm/02-03.jpg
Fifthfiend
10-22-2009, 05:04 PM
Hey look it's Rangiku.
A whole damn lotta Rangiku.
Mr.Bookworm
10-22-2009, 05:10 PM
Hey look it's Rangiku.
A whole damn lotta Rangiku.
The best parts, anyway.
And Rukia is riding a big metal shaft in a really skimpy costume.
Is that subtext or just regular text?
Kyanbu The Legend
10-22-2009, 05:57 PM
Is it just me or did Kubo up Rengiku's bust size by a few cups.
I didn't realize ichigo's mask changed that many times since it's first appearance in the manga.
EDIT: It seems I was wrong, Ichigo got curb stomped again. He now has to wait and may have to learn how to use the new mask. Which means 5 to 10 more chapters of Ichigo learns how control his hallow form... again. But it seems Yammy is going to die a horrible death at the hands of Byakuya and Kimpatchi.
Aerozord
10-22-2009, 06:55 PM
I still love how Ichigo recognizes he has main character status.
I hope Yammy beats them up, we need Unahona to have an excuse to fight
Kyanbu The Legend
10-22-2009, 07:05 PM
Seriously are we going to see Aizen fight anytime soon? I want to see his Bankai dammit.
Fifthfiend
10-22-2009, 07:16 PM
I find what I'm really hoping is that any of the Vaizards in the last hundred years have put any effort into figuring out how to fight a dude who can flawlessly fool your entire concept of reality.
Like you'd think that's the sort of thing you'd plan out before you rolled up an' pick a fight but so far it don't really look like the case.
EDIT: Or like you know what'd be cool would be if Soul Society had thought to keep the one person who they know is capable of seeing through Aizen's shit on-hand for their big goddamn throwdown instead of sending her off to dick around in Mexican Hell.
Aerozord
10-22-2009, 07:22 PM
well it took her like, a few days to figure it out. Still retarded since she's their medic too.
But I think the vaizards do have a method. Shinji was rather insistant on the whole "dont attack yet" thing. In fact I cant recall Aizen ever using his power offensively except to counter attack. Good possibility his power isn't as all encompassing as he claims.
Kyanbu The Legend
10-22-2009, 08:07 PM
well it took her like, a few days to figure it out. Still retarded since she's their medic too.
But I think the vaizards do have a method. Shinji was rather insistent on the whole "don't attack yet" thing. In fact I cant recall Aizen ever using his power offensively except to counter attack. Good possibility his power isn't as all encompassing as he claims.
That's right, most of the time that Aizen fights, he's never on the offensive. Just counter-attacks and defensive maneuvers.
But this is Bleach, so that could very well mean nothing as he'll likely just come out and say "I was holding back" then show that his powers are even deadlier offensively then defensively.
Ryong
10-22-2009, 10:23 PM
Heh. Last chapter?
Yammy's okay. Too bad he doesn't seem to actually want to kill Ichigo, what with not using his cero nor actually mauling Ichigo. And yay, Byakuya and Zaraki are going to kick some ass. The latter more than the former, as always.
A Zarkin' Frood
10-23-2009, 09:18 AM
No one gives a fuck about Yammy.
Kenpachi is here. If I don't see him handing Yammy his ass in a Wal-Mart bag Bleach is officially over and everything after the soul society arc is just filler.
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5934/akenpachiyammyass.jpg
This just in, Bleach is now the 8bit Theater of manga.
Kinda pissed that Ichigo got hit with Powers As The Plot Demands syndrome just when he was about to go SuperSaiyan 2 with his new mask.
Pleasantly surprised to find Captain Glorious Bloodshed and Captain Pretty Flowers intervening. Next Friday cannot come soon enough.
Grimpond
10-23-2009, 12:39 PM
Hahahahah, Yes!
They're probably gonna spend most of the first bit of fighting arguing with each other about getting in each others way or trying to take all the fun.
Aerozord
10-23-2009, 02:35 PM
I know I'm gonna get pelted with rocks, but I'd prefer it if Kenpachi lost. So far his tendency to ALWAYS win has been ignored by the fact he wins in an impressive manner. Though he's hitting god-mode-sue territory. He had to not only go out, but use techniques he hated using to beat the fifth ranked. Him pwning the Cero Espada I think is abit too much. Maybe with both of them, if they for some reason work together, ok. I hope that doesn't happen though, its very against both their personalities
CABAL49
10-23-2009, 02:51 PM
I know I'm gonna get pelted with rocks, but I'd prefer it if Kenpachi lost. So far his tendency to ALWAYS win has been ignored by the fact he wins in an impressive manner. Though he's hitting god-mode-sue territory. He had to not only go out, but use techniques he hated using to beat the fifth ranked. Him pwning the Cero Espada I think is abit too much. Maybe with both of them, if they for some reason work together, ok. I hope that doesn't happen though, its very against both their personalities
Especially since he lost to Ichigo.
A Zarkin' Frood
10-23-2009, 03:33 PM
Some people argue that he didn't really try.
I know I'm gonna get pelted with rocks, but I'd prefer it if Kenpachi lost.
Nah man, Kenpachi can lose, we both know it will be epic.
If someone somehow manages to kill both Kenpachi and Byakuya he's basically established as the King Pimp of the universe.
But fuck, do I hate Yammy.
Ryong
10-29-2009, 04:54 PM
It was arms before, now it's legs? Decide on your fetish already, Kubo. Also, Ichigo is suddenly regarded as a wuss and there's no explanation whatsoever how he managed to fight against Kenpachi and Byakuya before. I expect Yammy to be dead by the end of the next chapter and maybe we get a look at the fights in Karakura.
Kyanbu The Legend
10-29-2009, 10:43 PM
It was arms before, now it's legs? Decide on your fetish already, Kubo. Also, Ichigo is suddenly regarded as a wuss and there's no explanation whatsoever how he managed to fight against Kenpachi and Byakuya before. I expect Yammy to be dead by the end of the next chapter and maybe we get a look at the fights in Karakura.
In Ichigo's defense, Kenny would call anyone who loses more then 2 - 3 times in an arc and gets beaten that badly a wuss.
Fifthfiend
10-29-2009, 10:54 PM
It's Bleach, words never relate to actual reality.
MasterOfMagic
10-30-2009, 12:43 AM
It was arms before, now it's legs? Decide on your fetish already, Kubo.
I like the man switching it up. Maybe he'll work his way around to heads after another 380 chapters or so.
Bells
10-30-2009, 12:56 AM
Ok... little question... Ichigo is going to Karakura Town with the only Apt healer, while leaving all his friends with Inoue as their only healer in Hueco mundo?
This is either a stupid idea or Ichigo is going to find a very bleak scenario upon his arrival.
In the end the Espadas were a bit too much of a boast. Maybe it's because none of the espadas were Id as the "Vasto Lorde" type of Espada... so it seems they were just Canon Fodder for Aizen after all.
If that's the case it would make sense that from 5 to 0 they would cause some trouble for the captains, but could still be defeated by a proper opponent with not much effort.
I'm very curious about those "Spoils" Mayuri got... i recall those shadowy bodies that he had uncovered in that freaky arrancar scientist after his defeat..
MasterOfMagic
10-30-2009, 01:03 AM
"Inoue as their only healer"?
She can restore an arm that was cut off and disintegrated. I think they'll be alright.
Aerozord
10-30-2009, 01:20 AM
although not explicitely said, it appears 1-4 were vasto-lorde.
Side note, I wonder why he called him half-shinangami
yes I know because of his dad, but how does HE know that
greed
10-30-2009, 03:33 AM
Remember those spying bacteria he stuck on Uryu, he's probably got them on everybody.
Mayuri is watching you masturbate. He's watching as your father's dark secret is revealed. And as you're eating waffles. Hopefully not at the same time.
Edit: My personal theory is that Wonderweiss is the only Vasto Lorde arrancar and that's why he's so damn weird and powerful. The whole arrancarisation doesn't quite work with Vasto Lordes, so he came out "special". This is mostly cause shonen rules say that different levels of bad guys will appear with fanfare and announcement(the fight with the Menos, Grimmjow's backstory for the Adjuchas), we won't have the top 4 announced as VLs after they've already been beaten.
Arcanum
10-30-2009, 12:36 PM
Side note, I wonder why he called him half-shinangami
yes I know because of his dad, but how does HE know that
He calls him half-shinigami 'cause Ichigo isn't an actual shinigami. At the end of the SS arc he was designated a Shinigami representative (or something like that). He doesn't belong to any of the 12 squads, and doesn't report directly to anyone in SS, so they don't really view him as a full-fledged shinigami.
Donomni
11-05-2009, 01:37 PM
So Ichigo's more or less going to have to fight blind in order to not be taken in by the Haxpakto?
This is not going to end well, win or lose.
Ryong
11-05-2009, 02:20 PM
Well, Aizen on his on is still horribly powerful, it's not as if it's just his zanpakutou that does everything. I expect Ichigo having two shots at it, as his hollow form may count as an entirely different individual. Then again, I may be wrong.
Aerozord
11-05-2009, 02:43 PM
in many ways thats not really a weakness. Nothing stopping Aizen form releasing it, and when he does he'll have to run around blind which is a massive disadvantage. Plus there is still his bankai
Oh and I love how Ichigo decided to annoy the captain right before leaving. At first I thought he was trying to give him a compliment but seeing him rush off before he got a reply I could tell it was intentional.
Kyanbu The Legend
11-06-2009, 02:55 AM
I noticed that Ichigo left without Inoue. Shingi's gonna be VERY pissed.
Aerozord
11-06-2009, 03:29 PM
I'd actually like to extend that to everyone. There is no reason what-so-ever for anyone to stay there
Sithdarth
11-06-2009, 04:01 PM
Except for the people stopping Yammy otherwise he'd just go to Earth and stomp the whole city flat be just being there.
Aerozord
11-06-2009, 04:18 PM
assuming he could follow them. But hey there is currently one guy fighting him, not like that will change
Sithdarth
11-13-2009, 12:32 AM
I totally wish my clothes doubled as a power level gauge. Its definitely original I'll give it that much. At least I assume it is anyway. Also, more Unohana mafia Don like behavior is always a good thing. Although at this point I'm a bit worried that even she got flustered a little bit even if it didn't show. It seems ominous.
Edit: Also a note on translation. In some translations it seems to say you need to see the exact moment of release to full under Aizen's power where others just say shikai. There might be something important there.
Kyanbu The Legend
11-13-2009, 01:16 AM
So it seems Yammy is pretty much a joke now. And Ichigo might be the one who takes down Azien from the looks of it. Seeing as Unahana believes Ichigos massive amount spirit energy will come in handy.
MasterOfMagic
11-13-2009, 01:23 AM
So to defeat Ichigo, all you have to do is disrobe him.
Neat.
(There's a good joke in here somewhere.)
Fifthfiend
11-13-2009, 02:06 AM
Yammy's patheticness matches up with the general demotion of all the arrancars to mook level. It's super annoying to see the key to fighting Aizen being Mesden's prediction of what would be the shitty stupid key to fighting Aizen that she figured out like a million Goddamn years ago and I've been hoping wouldn't be what fucking happens, but OH WELL
Also I'm henceforth predicting that Unohana's BIG MOMENT that's supposed to happen and show what a badass she is will be her completely sucking and disappointing the hell out of me and the Icey McDouche wins the fight for her cause that seems like how Bleach rolls.
synkr0nized
11-13-2009, 02:21 AM
I'm going to continue believing that Yammy's "lol I am actually rank 0, not 10" is the other Espada humoring him so that he didn't try to eat them and waste their time. I mean, holy fuck. He's done nothing, just like when he was 10. Not that I want him to be successful at anything, mind you, but if you're going to write the number system differently but then have him fail at fighting people who arguably had some difficulty with other Espada... This guy's writing is basically "This pleases me right now, so it's now true!"
And yet I still am following it. Hooray!
Grimpond
11-13-2009, 03:56 PM
I totally wish my clothes doubled as a power level gauge...
Gin: Aizen, what does his shihakusho say about his power level!?
Aizen: ...It's over nine-thousand!...
Kyanbu The Legend
11-13-2009, 04:00 PM
Gin: Aizen, what does his shihakusho say about his power level!?
Aizen: ...It's over nine-thousand!...
Shouldn't it be the other way around?
EDIT: Never mind. Vegeta was the one who read it so yeah it probably would be something like that.
Mesden
11-13-2009, 04:38 PM
Not really, because Gin is the real main villain.
You all know/want it.
Yammy's patheticness matches up with the general demotion of all the arrancars to mook level. It's super annoying to see the key to fighting Aizen being Mesden's prediction of what would be the shitty stupid key to fighting Aizen that she figured out like a million Goddamn years ago and I've been hoping wouldn't be what fucking happens, but OH WELL
HEY HEY HEY DID YOU KNOW ICHIGO'S POWER LEVEL IS AMAZING I MEAN WOW IT'S ONLY AT HALF STRENGTH HE JUST SURELY MAY BE THE TRUMP CARD AGAINST AIZEN BOY OH BOY
Kyanbu The Legend
11-13-2009, 04:41 PM
Not really, because Gin is the real main villain.
You all know/want it.
HEY HEY HEY DID YOU KNOW ICHIGO'S POWER LEVEL IS AMAZING I MEAN WOW IT'S ONLY AT HALF STRENGTH HE JUST SURELY MAY BE THE TRUMP CARD AGAINST AIZEN BOY OH BOY
Indeed we do. Heck Gin should of been the main villain to began with. You know with Aizen ACTUALLY being dead instead of alive.
EDIT: Like we haven't learned that several times before. :\
Mesden
11-13-2009, 04:51 PM
Indeed we do. Heck Gin should of been the main villain to began with. You know with Aizen ACTUALLY being dead instead of alive.
EDIT: Like we haven't learned that several times before. :\
Aizen was a great shocker villain directly after his reveal. Time and being completely uninteresting during that time has degraded him into garbage, whereas Gin is still awesome because his smug face isn't shown near as much.
Fifthfiend
11-13-2009, 05:29 PM
Not really, because Gin is the real main villain.
You all know/want it.
HEY HEY HEY DID YOU KNOW ICHIGO'S POWER LEVEL IS AMAZING I MEAN WOW IT'S ONLY AT HALF STRENGTH HE JUST SURELY MAY BE THE TRUMP CARD AGAINST AIZEN BOY OH BOY
you know at half strength itchygo's shiatsu is equal to that of a captains.
BTW did you know izens shiatsu is TWICE that of a CAPTAINS?
HOW ABOUT THAT HUH
Mesden
11-13-2009, 05:31 PM
AND HE'S GOT A HOLLOW MASK AND EVERYTHING I MEAN GOSH HOW AMAZING
I know it's silly to think that anyone other than the main character would beat the big bad, but dammit if it isn't lame.
Fifthfiend
11-13-2009, 05:38 PM
Aizen was a great shocker villain directly after his reveal. Time and being completely uninteresting during that time has degraded him into garbage, whereas Gin is still awesome because his smug face isn't shown near as much.
Gin is awesome because of my MASSIVE SPOILERS-containing sigimage.
I know it's silly to think that anyone other than the main character would beat the big bad, but dammit if it isn't lame.
The setup was just so extraoridinarily shameless.
I mean like... for Bleach, extraordinarily shameless.
Mesden
11-13-2009, 06:29 PM
I do kind of like how it was set up, honestly. "You were so absolutely useless and pathetic that you are now our last and greatest hope!"
Fifthfiend
11-13-2009, 07:24 PM
I'm starting to think that Tite Kubo's hatred of arms is actually outstripped by Tite Kubo's hatred of communication.
He dreams in a world shorn free of all language, where the only sounds are subverbal grunts and the song of a gracefully wielded sword. (Or giant poison-vomiting baby)
Aerozord
11-14-2009, 10:36 PM
I think it might be more that Kenpachi's power equals, just abit more then whats needed. If we assume all that crap he was spewing was true, then he should be vastly more powerful then the 5th ranked guy Kenpachi had to go all out to beat. But no, Kenpachi runs in and can kill it anyways for no reason besides the fact his personality demands it to be so
Kyanbu The Legend
11-25-2009, 12:52 AM
If anyone is wondering why there hasn't been a new chapter of Bleach lately. It's because "apparently" Tite Kubo has been fired from Shounen Jump. Which means rather or not we'll get a new chapter is unknown. More then likely considering Bleach's popularity, Shounen Jump will probably find someone else to finish it up. As for the Anime...
I'm currently searching the forum I found this in for a link source to confirm if this is true or not.
Also Tite Kubo's a troller. lol (http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt296/KurainoTsukai/Anything%20needed/kubo-trolling.jpg)
He looks MUCH younger then I thought he would be.
Bells
11-25-2009, 12:59 AM
That's...
well.... holy crap fits the term i'm looking for this right now.
Sithdarth
11-25-2009, 01:02 AM
If anyone is wondering why there hasn't been a new chapter of Bleach lately. It's because Tite Kubo has been fired from Shoune Jump. Which means rather or not we'll get a new chapter is unknown. More then likely considering Bleach's popularity, Shoune Jump will probably find someone else to finish it up. As for the Anime...
Seems dubious as the Shounen Jump official cite says absolutely nothing and as far as I heard he's just on a break to gather materials or some such crazy thing.
Kyanbu The Legend
11-25-2009, 01:04 AM
That's...
well.... holy crap fits the term i'm looking for this right now.
I wouldn't jump the gun yet. I still havn't found anything thing that proves this to be true yet.
However I did learn that he's a really ass. I mean a REAL ASSHOLE. Who's rumored to troll his own fan sites.
Here's one of his posts that a member on another forum found somewhere. Again not 100% sure if this is real or if that was actually him at all.
Originally Posted by Tite Kubo
What if I make a horizontal ink spill? That can be a bankai.
What if I draw 3 parallel lines instead of 2? ULTRA CERO
What if Aizen is really horribly weak without his sword's ability?
*TROLLFACE PRACTICE IN THE MIRROR*
*ROLLING AROUND IN MONEY*
If it's true then there is a small chance he could of spoiled his own manga.
Seems dubious as the Shounen Jump official cite says absolutely nothing and as far as I heard he's just on a break to gather materials or some such crazy thing.
That's what I keep hearing.
Well It seems that "him being fired" bit was a lie as I have yet to find any proof of it being true. But it seems all that stuff I keep hearing about him being a jerk seem to be true. XD Not that that's going to stop me from reading Bleach.
greed
11-25-2009, 01:14 AM
....he's still got the 3rd biggest series over there. Even if he is an enormous asshole(which I doubt, I mean this is some shit made up on the internet, some fansite probably has somebody pretending to be him and ran with the joke or something) he wouldn't lose his job unless his sales dropped off the planet. Plenty of authors are massive assholes and they still get published, cause people buy their shit. It's also been a week, manga people take a week off all the time.
He's probably reading Spanish to Japanese dictionaries for new hollow attacks or something.
Kyanbu The Legend
11-25-2009, 01:17 AM
....he's still got the 3rd biggest series over there. Even if he is an enormous asshole(which I doubt, I mean this is some shit made up on the internet, some fansite probably has somebody pretending to be him and ran with the joke or something) he wouldn't lose his job unless his sales dropped off the planet. Plenty of authors are massive assholes and they still get published, cause people buy their shit. It's also been a week, manga people take a week off all the time.
He's probably reading Spanish to Japanese dictionaries for new hollow attacks or something.
That's what I've been thinking. It was probably a fake.
Aerozord
11-25-2009, 06:43 PM
plus that post looked like something a slightly less mature Fifth would do. And who uses their name as an internet handle?
Fifthfiend
11-25-2009, 06:47 PM
BANKAIIIIIIII
*fartz*
Aerozord
11-25-2009, 07:00 PM
oh right sorry Fifth, a slightly more mature you.
Kyanbu The Legend
11-25-2009, 09:01 PM
plus that post looked like something a slightly less mature Fifth would do. And who uses their name as an internet handle?
Most company reps and famous people do it to let their fans know it's them.
Aerozord
11-25-2009, 09:21 PM
on the official boards not some random fansite, specifically because anyone can just sign up with that name.
Kyanbu The Legend
11-26-2009, 07:15 PM
The next chapter is up... And I take back every bad thing I said about Yammy. Cause much like Emo lad. He too has a second release form. And it's ability is to boost his strength every time he gets pissed. That fight may last a few chapters. And Tousen may be a Vizard now. And Shingi's about to fight Aizen. Also Aizen's motive is to become a God.
So the fight Line up is
Byakuya and Captain Badass V.S The Hulk (Bleach ver.)
Shingi V.S Captain Superman
and
Hollowfied Tousen V.S Captain Fuzzball (Fuzzball might die though)
It's safe to say that Gin is probably a Vizard now too. Same with Aizen.
Sithdarth
11-26-2009, 09:33 PM
In before there is a more "perfected" and powerful form of vizard that Tousen and company are blessed with. Also, Ichigo having developed naturally as one and after that new mask also has access to this form or perhaps an even more improved version.
Kyanbu The Legend
11-26-2009, 10:30 PM
In before there is a more "perfected" and powerful form of vizard that Tousen and company are blessed with. Also, Ichigo having developed naturally as one and after that new mask also has access to this form or perhaps an even more improved version.
Pretty much. I expect about 2 maybe 3 more deaths (If Fuzzball dies) before Ichigo fights Aizen.
Sithdarth
11-26-2009, 10:37 PM
You forget Orihime is the reset button. She's brought people back from having the upper half of their body vaporized. Ain't nobody dieing ever at least not for good.
Kyanbu The Legend
11-26-2009, 10:45 PM
You forget Orihime is the reset button. She's brought people back from having the upper half of their body vaporized. Ain't nobody dieing ever at least not for good.
Oh yeah that's right I forgot she can bring people back from the dead.
Oh what fun it would be if she ended up erasing Aizen from existence. XD
Aerozord
11-27-2009, 07:39 AM
On what Aizen said, to Japanese "God" is merely a powerful being. So from our standpoint all he is really saying is he wants to be a whole platue stronger then everyone else.
Not sure if having the top Espada being The Hulk is awesome or lame though
Grimpond
11-27-2009, 02:42 PM
Does he return to normal after feeling sad?
What's that? He doesn't get sad? He just gets angrier?
Well alrighty then!
Wigmund
12-03-2009, 09:52 PM
New issue up.
Goddammit I want a fight between a being powered by bloodlust and a being powered by rage, not Lt 69 being a whiner.
Kyanbu The Legend
12-04-2009, 12:58 AM
Still Tousen's mask looks awesome.
Sithdarth
12-04-2009, 01:16 AM
I just wonder is he insanely powerful because he was somehow insanely more powerful than a captain to begin with or because its a more perfected Hollification. You'd think they would have improved on it before testing it out. I still think Ichigo's natural evolution into a vizard will be revealed to make him like the ultimate perfect vizard or something like that. Also, Urahara will probably be revealed as having planed the whole thing as the fruits of his research into true Hollification that was only approximated by the Hōgyoku.
Aerozord
12-04-2009, 04:06 PM
he's no more insanely powerful then anyone else with the mask. Remember Captain Pup is on the lower end of the spectrum. Vaizard masks are an incredible stat boost. Think of all the times we saw Ichigo use it. He would go from tough fight to curbstomp in an instant.
Sithdarth
12-04-2009, 04:51 PM
he's no more insanely powerful then anyone else with the mask. Remember Captain Pup is on the lower end of the spectrum. Vaizard masks are an incredible stat boost. Think of all the times we saw Ichigo use it. He would go from tough fight to curbstomp in an instant.
The problem is that Kamamura made a point to comment on how insanely powerful he was while being well aware of exactly what Vizard masks do. Apparently from both Ichigo, judging by his comments on the matter, and seeing the old Vizards fight. He should have a decent idea of what to expect especially since he was close to Tousen in the past. Also, he may be on the low end in terms of spirit pressure but for raw physical strength he's probably second only to Kenpachi. I mean its conceivable it still surprised him but it seems unlikely he would be that unprepared.
That and even Mashiro who is all about the kicking didn't have a kick nearly that powerful even cero enhanced. I'd assume even a lieutenant well versed in kicking should beat a captain that normally doesn't kick in a kicking contest. That goes double when you add in she was a lieutenant centuries ago and they apparently spent that time training to control their hollows and such.
Fifthfiend
12-04-2009, 06:26 PM
I just wonder is he insanely powerful because he was somehow insanely more powerful than a captain to begin with or because its a more perfected Hollification. You'd think they would have improved on it before testing it out. I still think Ichigo's natural evolution into a vizard will be revealed to make him like the ultimate perfect vizard or something like that. Also, Urahara will probably be revealed as having planed the whole thing as the fruits of his research into true Hollification that was only approximated by the Hōgyoku.
Itchy will be the best hollowgami cause he has the bitchin' color-change mask.
Kyanbu The Legend
12-05-2009, 09:56 PM
You know it would be a very interesting plot twist if Urahara turned out to be the real big bad behind all of this. Quite a lot fans are excited about the theory. And it's a twist Kubo might actually come up with.
Sithdarth
12-05-2009, 11:56 PM
I should clarify by "whole thing" I was referring to the whole thing with exclusively Ichigo. As in he saw the injuries coming from the retrieval of Rukia and totally planned for his training to turn Ichigo into a super hollowgami from the very beginning. Possibly as a means to defeat Aizen and is less than perfect hollowgami.
Kyanbu The Legend
12-06-2009, 12:03 AM
I should clarify by "whole thing" I was referring to the whole thing with exclusively Ichigo. As in he saw the injuries coming from the retrieval of Rukia and totally planned for his training to turn Ichigo into a super hollowgami from the very beginning. Possibly as a means to defeat Aizen and is less than perfect hollowgami.
I was just talking about a theory a bounch of fans were talking about on another forum. I had completely forgot about your theory of Urahara competeing with Aizen to see who can make the perfect Hollowgami. Granted Urahara behind this in anyway would still be awesome.
Aerozord
12-06-2009, 12:03 AM
thats unlikely, his hollowfication was a fluke, and if he suspected Ichigo would go vaizard, he probably would have informed Yoruichi
Sithdarth
12-06-2009, 12:22 AM
thats unlikely, his hollowfication was a fluke, and if he suspected Ichigo would go vaizard, he probably would have informed Yoruichi
Urahara didn't seem all that surprised when he popped out of the hole with a mask and shattered it. That and having researched hollification before and knowing that his repowering process could result in going full hollow I find it unbelievable that he wouldn't at least suspect the possibility. I mean we've got the living son of what appears to be an ex-captain who got the source of his powers destroyed and is now going through the process souls normally go through to become a hallow. That and I doubt he would have subjected Ichigo to the process as the first test subject. He had an awful lot of knowledge about what to expect from the repowering process. Finally, we've basically heard absolutely nothing of the private conversations that go on between him and Yoruichi. The only thing anyone really seemed surprised about was the way the mask showed up and the manner in which is hollow side manifested initially. All of which were different from how the original Vizards where made or what we saw of it anyway. Which is not surprising if no one had been hollified in that manner yet. Besides if its supposed to be a plot twist the author isn't going to come right out and say it before he is good and ready to reveal it
Aerozord
12-06-2009, 12:20 PM
The author typically does good forshadowing though. Like the re-appearing mask in the first place. I am not saying he didn't suspect the possibility, but I doubt he dumped him in that hole expecting a vizard to come out. Ichigo's transformation is a unique one after all.
As for him not being suprised, well excluding flashbacks I cant recall him ever being suprised
Sithdarth
12-06-2009, 12:32 PM
s for him not being suprised, well excluding flashbacks I cant recall him ever being suprised
Its kind of hard to tell with him sometimes. Like when he's surprised he doesn't show it he just gets all serious until he figures it out. But he also gets serious when the situation demands it so it kind of hard to differentiate between him just being serious and him being caught off guard. That fake surprise he does though is a really good tip off that he wasn't surprised at all and knew exactly what was coming.
Edit:
The author typically does good forshadowing though
He also does bat shit insane pretty good as well so basically any thing you logically deduce has a chance of being completely off base depending on how many different kinds of crazy he feels like being. Of course that is why we love him.
Locke cole
12-06-2009, 05:06 PM
OK, completely and entirely off-topic, but I just realized a perfect nickname for Hitsugaya:
Captain Kid.
Doc ock rokc
12-06-2009, 06:28 PM
OK, completely and entirely off-topic, but I just realized a perfect nickname for Hitsugaya:
Captain Kid.
you should add it to the list (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanNickname/Anime)
Locke cole
12-06-2009, 07:17 PM
you should add it to the list (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanNickname/Anime)
Done and done. I only hope it spreads before they realize I just made it up.
Fifthfiend
12-07-2009, 01:59 PM
I prefer "Captain Jonas Brothers".
Grimpond
12-10-2009, 09:44 PM
Hohohohoho. Oh Tousen, you're such a card.
EDIT: Upon closer inspection, holy shit that mouth of his is freaky!
CABAL49
12-10-2009, 11:37 PM
I was hoping Shinji wasn't going to go in there without a plan. I never really like Tousen though. Dude is a lame hypocrite.
Aerozord
12-10-2009, 11:44 PM
well... didn't know vaizards could do that. Then again Ichigo has done some messed up crap with his mask on soooo.
Oh and friend told me sakanade can be translated to, irritating
Grimpond
12-10-2009, 11:44 PM
Anyone know what Shinji's release means?
Aerozord
12-10-2009, 11:47 PM
check the ninja, thats the translation I got
Grimpond
12-11-2009, 12:00 AM
well... didn't know vaizards could do that. Then again Ichigo has done some messed up crap with his mask on soooo.
Oh and friend told me sakanade can be translated to, irritating
TeeHeeHee. How Irritating
Kyanbu The Legend
12-11-2009, 12:07 AM
Well this is interesting. Shingi's Zanpakutu has abilities similar to Aizen's. And Tousen's Resurrection means we just found out how Ichigo might beat Aizen (should Shingi fail). Also anyone else still suspect that Aizen's a Vaizard now too?
Sithdarth
12-12-2009, 03:59 PM
Totally called it.
I just wonder is he insanely powerful because he was somehow insanely more powerful than a captain to begin with or because its a more perfected Hollification. You'd think they would have improved on it before testing it out
Thinking back that is probably what happened to Ichigo actually. Wonder if anyone else can do it.
Aerozord
12-12-2009, 05:29 PM
then wouldn't this make vizards inherently better then arrancars?
Sithdarth
12-12-2009, 06:02 PM
then wouldn't this make vizards inherently better then arrancars?
Only imperfectly made arrancars which I assume is what they went with to prevent them from becoming stupidly strong. I'd imagine with enough research and effort you could get a shikai and bankai using released state arrancar. Of course it would probably take a Vasto Lordes level hollow to begin with and would result in something actually strong enough to challenge you for power.
greed
12-17-2009, 06:02 PM
Huh, so Tousen pulled a The Fly and got backstabbed by Hisagi. Weird chapter. Still the hollow form was every bit as messed up as I hoped.
Aerozord
12-17-2009, 06:35 PM
he had better be dead after that, which is a pretty good chance actually. Only hollows die after all.
Still anyone else notice it? Someone didn't use bankai
Kyanbu The Legend
12-17-2009, 06:38 PM
-and wasn't Captain Badass Psychopath, yeah I noticed it too. I find it pretty nice for a change. Not that I have anything against everyone having to use Bankai to win or anything.
Fifthfiend
12-17-2009, 10:35 PM
Oh man I was totally planning to come back here and be all "Well Tousen released his massive unbeatable hollow-powers, how long until he gets totally steamrolled by someone weaker than him" but then it happened right there in the same damn issue.
Oh wellz maybe he has skullular regeneration or some crap.
Bells
12-17-2009, 11:24 PM
Are you guys serious? He totally deserved. Killed by the very best possible person to do it and just right after his "mask" fell off and revealed that he is, deep inside, a huge megalomaniac prick.
Worst than all this... what the hell happened to Komamura?!
Sithdarth
12-17-2009, 11:34 PM
Whatever happens to his Bankai happens to him in perfect miniature. Judging by what was done to it he's in pretty bad shape.
Grimpond
12-25-2009, 04:37 PM
Man, what the hell. I wanted to see Shinji fight, and he gets one shot then BAMF! Also, Aizen continues his descent into magnificent bastardtown.
Wigmund
12-25-2009, 05:10 PM
Hirako's Bankai is that last fucking boss fight from Beyond Good & Evil (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InterfaceScrew).
Oh wellz maybe he has skullular regeneration or some crap.
Not that it matters anymore, he went all splatterfied. Thank you Aizen
A Zarkin' Frood
12-25-2009, 05:22 PM
Can Aizen or ANYONE please kill Ichigo for really real with no chance of being brought back to life no matter what and maybe make someone remotely cool the main character? Pretty please with sugar on top?
The last few chapters were pretty good, there even were a bunch of fights that didn't span over 10000 chapters but were paced rather well instead. Now Ichigo showed up to ruin everything. Bleach always starts to suck when Ichigo shows up.
Donomni
12-25-2009, 08:31 PM
Meh, it's Shonen.
If you don't like the main character, then you just have to get used to them.
Shonen main characters don't stay dead long, if they die in the first place. They can be shunted away, but they always find a way back.
Fuck, Goku got killed off 12 or so times and DBZ had easily setup Gohan as a main character once, yet Goku still came back and became the main character again.
If a main character in a Shonen series dies for reals, it's because the series is over.
CABAL49
12-25-2009, 09:51 PM
Fuck, Goku got killed off 12 or so times and DBZ had easily setup Gohan as a main character once, yet Goku still came back and became the main character again.
If a main character in a Shonen series dies for reals, it's because the series is over.
Ichigo is starting to reach Goku phase. He can't blow up a planet yet, but he's getting there. He also seems to have the Saiyan ability of: Whatever-beats-the-crap-out-of-me-makes-me-stronger
Kyanbu The Legend
12-25-2009, 11:13 PM
Ichigo more or less is completely unkillable since Urihime is still kicking. If anything she's more likely to die (heroic sacrifice) then him. Besides he's the established main character. The first episode is proof of that. Hell If anything the poor bastard keep getting shafted more then he needs to be. He's practically almost completely useless now. (thanks kubo really, we totally love that the main character is crap compared to just about everyone else 80% of the time/ Sarcasm). Which is why I really hope Ichigo (or Urihime) beats Aizen. Because it would be really sad if the captains (team plot movers) ended up doing it. It's sad enough that they ended up hijacking the show/manga and dumbing down Uryu, Urihime, and Chad down to team cannon fodder. No need to completely kill what was once a decent manga (despite that it's been pretty good so far).
A Zarkin' Frood
12-26-2009, 05:46 AM
I think Ichigo should most embarrassingly lose to Aizen so Kon can show up and kill Aizen. This will shatter Ichigo forever and he'll be gone for at least 200 or so chapters and no one will ever talk about him until he returns, and then still no one will talk about him and he'll kill himself.
Grimpond
12-26-2009, 10:58 AM
I think Ichigo should most embarrassingly lose to Aizen so Kon can show up and kill Aizen. This will shatter Ichigo forever and he'll be gone for at least 200 or so chapters and no one will ever talk about him until he returns, and then still no one will talk about him and he'll kill himself.
:shifty:
CABAL49
12-26-2009, 03:43 PM
Kon actually doing something since he was created would be pretty awesome. And he would probably be immune to the psychedelic effects of Aizen's sword.
MasterOfMagic
12-26-2009, 09:06 PM
Shinji was such a fucking disappointment. Oh my god. Not even a decent fight.
His uselessness leaves me speechless.
Kyanbu The Legend
12-26-2009, 09:36 PM
I think Ichigo should most embarrassingly lose to Aizen so Kon can show up and kill Aizen. This will shatter Ichigo forever and he'll be gone for at least 200 or so chapters and no one will ever talk about him until he returns, and then still no one will talk about him and he'll kill himself.
Your hatred of Ichigo kind of amuses me considering how the manga pretty much revolves around him... Seriously why are you reading Bleach at all? You already know that the he's the main. You already know that he's the one to beat Aizen. You already know that at some point he's going to end up same strong as/stronger then everyone else. So why keep reading it?
Aerozord
12-27-2009, 01:22 AM
I cant help but feel Shinji would have done alot more if he took a hint from Captain Slacker and didn't completely explain his power right off the bat
Meh, it's Shonen.
If you don't like the main character, then you just have to get used to them.
Shonen main characters don't stay dead long, if they die in the first place. They can be shunted away, but they always find a way back.
Fuck, Goku got killed off 12 or so times and DBZ had easily setup Gohan as a main character once, yet Goku still came back and became the main character again.
that is where DBZ ends, but the network reanimated it and allowed it and a follow up series to continue as a sin against the creator
Wigmund
12-27-2009, 01:34 AM
I cant help but feel Shinji would have done alot more if he took a hint from Captain Slacker and didn't completely explain his power right off the bat
I thought that was the standard operating procedure in the Bleach'verse. Everyone has to explain what their newly unveiled power, especially if the power is an ass-pull, then the explanation takes up an entire page (or more!) with their opponent giving the standard Bleach shocked look in reaction panels.
Kinda like Bond villians all have the genetic defect that causes them to explain their plans to Bond when they think they've captured him.
Sithdarth
12-27-2009, 01:50 AM
Well with Shinji's power explaining it doesn't really help you any. Its pretty easy to figure out what is going on anyway. It relies on the fact that normal people even if they know everything is backwards have a hard time adjusting. Telling them everything is backwards can actually make it worse cause then they think about it instead of getting used to it. Aizen is just immune by plot to the effect.
Bells
12-27-2009, 02:35 AM
you guys keep forgetting that so far Shinji only showed his Shikai form, not his Bankai form. Nor his Bankai form while using his mask.
Sure, Gin will Block Ichigo's Attack now, and we are yet to see if Hirako's power will affect them both, but he is not out of the game yet.
Kyanbu The Legend
12-27-2009, 02:50 AM
So then I guess next week we'll probably see the rest of Yammy V.S Kimpatchi and Byakuya, and probably A little bit of Shingi V.S Aizen. Along with Ichigo either...
A. Fighting Gin
B. Helping Shingi
or
C. Sitting back and watching the action
A Zarkin' Frood
12-27-2009, 08:35 AM
Your hatred of Ichigo kind of amuses me considering how the manga pretty much revolves around him... Seriously why are you reading Bleach at all? You already know that the he's the main. You already know that he's the one to beat Aizen. You already know that at some point he's going to end up same strong as/stronger then everyone else. So why keep reading it?
Because It started out as a good series and the main character didn't bother me much, in fact my favorite fights from the earlier arcs feature Ichigo. Then he turned Goku, but there were enough other characters to make it entertaining enough.
Furthermore, the things I said about Ichigo might take it slightly farther than I actually mean them. It's not like it ruins the Manga for me that Ichigo's the main character. I don't give much of a damn about any by that I mean people without much of a personality the story revolves about, there are also good main characters, but Ichigo is not one of those to me., because they are usually required to be trite and boring so enough people can identify themselves with them.
But it will suddenly get very annoying when a fight takes up thrice the amount of chapters any other fight would take and there are no new developements, just one totally fatal blow and whoops he survived. Let's wait for the next chapter for the next stab through the head. Maybe it'll work this time. What? He survived that too? Ooops Ichigo, you lost three limbs, and Orihime isn't even there to fix you up. Oh no!
And by the end of the next chapter Aizen will have transformed into the final boss or something and then we get characters talking while they fight because nothing happens, really only a rapid exchange of blows. And in the end Aizen won't die, no he goes into the Dimension X to do evil and our heroes have to stop him.
That's the worst imaginable scenario.
It can't be that bad.
At least I hope that.
MasterOfMagic
12-27-2009, 10:38 AM
you guys keep forgetting that so far Shinji only showed his Shikai form, not his Bankai form. Nor his Bankai form while using his mask.
Sure, Gin will Block Ichigo's Attack now, and we are yet to see if Hirako's power will affect them both, but he is not out of the game yet.
That would be fine if Aizen had to use his Shikai. Or Ichigo hadn't shown up yet.
Now that Ichigo is here, I have doubts about Shinji having a huge role in what's to come. He'll most likely be sidelined somehow.
Bells
12-27-2009, 10:14 PM
I'm posting this here just so there won't be huge "temptation" in the anime thread. Also because you guys already saw this in the manga.
But be aware, here comes some nice spoilers
http://img2.gelbooru.com//samples/536/sample_1ab28a95fcb27f4aa2afefe262ba39ddc0723cb5.jp g?665396
http://img1.gelbooru.com//images/536/df1774f68e2fa3d6d4d9f2383f0c8fe1876810a2.jpg?66537 8
If you want, you can actually SEE this clip right now on Youtube right here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQsy4uzuQrI&feature=related)
Kyanbu The Legend
12-27-2009, 10:40 PM
Awesome, it looks awesome.
Sithdarth
12-27-2009, 11:59 PM
Damn it and its so far away too.
Bells
12-28-2009, 12:07 AM
Not really, the Filler arc is coming to a close. By February we should already have this fight since this is pretty much where canon story stopped.
Also, i just jumped 10 Episodes of the filler arc and noticed that i didn't miss a thing.
Aerozord
12-28-2009, 02:04 AM
I am starting to wonder if Aizen is either incredibly genre savvy oh got the villian ball. He's been killing his own people for no real reason which is counter productive as any surviving allies (which I admit there are few of) will consider defection. Then again he might be so genre savvy he knows "defeat means friendship" trope of shonen series and decides to kill them off before then. Which would explain the reason behind the Morte group offing all the defeated hollows
But it will suddenly get very annoying when a fight takes up thrice the amount of chapters any other fight would take and there are no new developements, just one totally fatal blow and whoops he survived. Let's wait for the next chapter for the next stab through the head. Maybe it'll work this time. What? He survived that too? Ooops Ichigo, you lost three limbs, and Orihime isn't even there to fix you up. Oh no!
And by the end of the next chapter Aizen will have transformed into the final boss or something and then we get characters talking while they fight because nothing happens, really only a rapid exchange of blows. And in the end Aizen won't die, no he goes into the Dimension X to do evil and our heroes have to stop him.
soo Final Fatasy then?
Sithdarth
12-28-2009, 03:25 AM
Not really, the Filler arc is coming to a close. By February we should already have this fight since this is pretty much where canon story stopped.
I don't know what crazy backwards land you come from but where I'm from a month is a long time. It'll probably be significantly closer to 2 months. I mean we've got till the 26th of January with the current arc then we've got a whole chapter of manga to get through before the fight. That's like 9 issues and if they want to keep there current pacing of about 1.5 issues per episode that's 6 more episode before we get there. That's assuming no breaks in there which puts us in like the 3rd week of March for the fight. The second week of march being the lead up cliff hanger and 6th episode. I mean they could speed it up but they could also take weeks off here and there I could never really get a handle on the crazy schedule. I'm certainly not expecting it till about March just on terms of not overshooting the written material. Plus 2 months out seems about right in terms of quality animation.
Bard The 5th LW
12-28-2009, 06:33 PM
That would be fine if Aizen had to use his Shikai.
Well, Aizens ability is to make people see what he wants them to and control their senses, so it's actually very possible that he is currently in shikai/bankai and that he is making it appear that he is using his normal sword to make him seem all powerful and/or keep his enemies using Shikai, seeing as the characters normally have a tendency of using their stronger powers only when their enemy does.
A Zarkin' Frood
12-28-2009, 06:40 PM
soo Final Fatasy then?
No, it won't work, level cap tends to be 99 in Final Fantasy games.
Aerozord
12-28-2009, 08:00 PM
No, it won't work, level cap tends to be 99 in Final Fantasy games.
not for enemies
greed
01-14-2010, 01:48 PM
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/gr33d_2007/fangirlsgonnaLOVEthis.jpg
Aerozord
01-14-2010, 02:04 PM
please please let them win through sheer numbers and cooperation. Be so nice to see a shonen series where the big bad isn't beaten simply because the main character is stronger
Token
01-14-2010, 06:17 PM
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/gr33d_2007/fangirlsgonnaLOVEthis.jpg
Think there's any foreshadowing in the fact that the remains of his mask looks like Grimmjow's?
Ryong
01-14-2010, 07:04 PM
please please let them win through sheer numbers and cooperation. Be so nice to see a shonen series where the big bad isn't beaten simply because the main character is stronger
Ichigo is pretty weak if he's not in his crazy hollow form and the fact that he doesn't have as much experience as the captains is a big problem, too.
Edit: Also, Kyoraku and Ukitake didn't show their bankais yet. Also, Unohana.
you guys keep forgetting that so far Shinji only showed his Shikai form, not his Bankai form. Nor his Bankai form while using his mask.
Oh, no, that was Shinji's bankai already, pretty sure.
Arcanum
01-14-2010, 07:31 PM
Oh, no, that was Shinji's bankai already, pretty sure.
This is a bit of a pickle actually. Chapter 385, pages 6 then 7 Shinji says "Fall Sakanade" which as we all know is him activating his Shikai. But then in Chapter 387, page 4, the narrative text says "What is Hirako's Bankai?" even though it never shows him activating his Bankai. So I think the latter is just a translation error and that Bells was right in that Shinji has only used his Shikai.
Oh and I'm too lazy to get pictures so you can all just use your non-copyright-infringing manga viewing methods of your choice to verify this.
Ryong
01-14-2010, 08:11 PM
This is a bit of a pickle actually. Chapter 385, pages 6 then 7 Shinji says "Fall Sakanade" which as we all know is him activating his Shikai. But then in Chapter 387, page 4, the narrative text says "What is Hirako's Bankai?" even though it never shows him activating his Bankai. So I think the latter is just a translation error and that Bells was right in that Shinji has only used his Shikai.
Oh and I'm too lazy to get pictures so you can all just use your non-copyright-infringing manga viewing methods of your choice to verify this.
Well, I believe it wouldn't make much sense to go fight Aizen, the strongest guy on the place without at least bankai, but then again he didn't use his mask either so I dunno.
CABAL49
01-14-2010, 10:49 PM
Well, I believe it wouldn't make much sense to go fight Aizen, the strongest guy on the place without at least bankai, but then again he didn't use his mask either so I dunno.
Have you read Bleach before? There is a certain protocol you have to follow. You never start out full strength and you always have a hidden technique.
Bells
01-14-2010, 11:14 PM
Ichigo always fight with 100% from the start. Just now he is giving somewhat plausible excuses for that. Everyone else says they have a reason, some hate their higher powers, some don't think the enemy is worthy, some think that if they show their main trick, the enemy can rebound easily, some say they don't want to be dependent of higher power...
It's all cliché excuses, but it's at least effort to give one that has some sense.
Kyanbu The Legend
01-14-2010, 11:28 PM
Everyone V.S Aizen huh. Nice, next chapter is looking good.
Sithdarth
01-15-2010, 01:02 AM
This is a bit of a pickle actually. Chapter 385, pages 6 then 7 Shinji says "Fall Sakanade" which as we all know is him activating his Shikai. But then in Chapter 387, page 4, the narrative text says "What is Hirako's Bankai?" even though it never shows him activating his Bankai. So I think the latter is just a translation error and that Bells was right in that Shinji has only used his Shikai.
Oh and I'm too lazy to get pictures so you can all just use your non-copyright-infringing manga viewing methods of your choice to verify this.
1) I'm pretty sure some of the higher level captains have hopped right to Bankai before so its nothing new. I think Ichigo even managed it without screaming Bankai once.
2) I've seen it translated the exact same way from two completely independent sources. I totally thought it was a translation error two but the two different places I get my manga fix from usually have very different takes on translation and still came up basically identical on that phrase. If it's an error then it's an error in the original.
Aerozord
01-18-2010, 11:47 AM
I do like how people are self aware enough to both, use the attacking blind spot tactic, and be aware that there are those that do it. I was worried Aizen was gonna pull off some godmode "I saw it coming" thing, but instead it was something he prepared earlier since its a clear weakpoint. Someone did this to Byakuya, Renji I think, knowing his love of flashstepping behind people the instant he saw him move he blocked his back
Kyanbu The Legend
01-19-2010, 06:07 PM
You know a thought occurred to me. A major flaw in the captains plan to cover Ichigo while he attacks Aizen. Since most of the Captains have seen Aizen's Shikai and are venerable to his illusions. Whats to stop them from thinking Ichigo is Aizen and attacking him? Sure he's fast but so is everyone else.
synkr0nized
01-19-2010, 07:18 PM
He just needs to talk enough trash to prove he is the best. But really what we're all waiting for is Gin defeating everyone.
CABAL49
01-19-2010, 08:10 PM
I am calling Gin kills Aizen. Gin is actually the big boss of Shinigami.
Wigmund
01-19-2010, 10:42 PM
No, it's really Lt. Pink Hair. She's the cunning mastermind behind everything in Bleach.
Actually, I've got to ask this - what is Aizen's real plan? I've heard it's for him to become the most powerful being in existence, but what will he do with all that power? Kill everyone? Become a tyrant astride the worlds? Reform the Soul Society so it's no longer a shitty medieval Japanese slum in which the poor souls suffer and die again because their protectors are a bunch of dicks who spend all their time running around stabbing each other in the back?
Bard The 5th LW
01-19-2010, 10:51 PM
Calling it now: Aizen is a well intentioned extremist that is trying to take over the kings realm to make the Soul Society and any other powerful beings up there fight against monsters from those gates to hell we saw like 400 chapters ago because they are trying to end the world for some reason.
it will ned up to be something like that, in any case. I mostly want to see the hell gates show up again.
Kyanbu The Legend
01-19-2010, 11:05 PM
Calling it now: Aizen is a well intentioned extremist that is trying to take over the kings realm to make the Soul Society and any other powerful beings up there fight against monsters from those gates to hell we saw like 400 chapters ago because they are trying to end the world for some reason.
it will ned up to be something like that, in any case. I mostly want to see the hell gates show up again.
I always thought the hell gates ended up being retconed as the gate to hecco mundo. (sp?)
Arcanum
01-19-2010, 11:28 PM
I always thought the hell gates ended up being retconed as the gate to hecco mundo. (sp?)
I don't think that's the case. Hueco Mundo is the place where all Hollows go when they aren't terrorizing the world. Soul Society is where the "good" souls go. And then Hell is where the "Bad" souls go. It wouldn't make much sense for a Shinigami to purify a Hollow (which is what they do when they "kill" it with their zanpakuto), only to send it back to it's own world.
Kyanbu The Legend
01-19-2010, 11:32 PM
I don't think that's the case. Hueco Mundo is the place where all Hollows go when they aren't terrorizing the world. Soul Society is where the "good" souls go. And then Hell is where the "Bad" souls go. It wouldn't make much sense for a Shinigami to purify a Hollow (which is what they do when they "kill" it with their zanpakuto), only to send it back to it's own world.
Ah, I see. OKay thanks for clearing that up then.
synkr0nized
01-20-2010, 12:47 AM
That means the Espada are all hanging out at King Kai's place in heaven with the good souls. I wonder what they are doing!
Token
01-21-2010, 05:02 PM
And Captain Jobber goes Bankai after Aizen says three sentences. Shocking.
Kyanbu The Legend
01-21-2010, 06:46 PM
In a sense it kinda still is. Anyway it looks like Aizen's dropping dead in the next 10 chapters.
Token
01-21-2010, 06:57 PM
Anyway it looks like Aizen's dropping dead in the next 10 chapters.
A battle with the big bad over in 10 chapters? In Bleach? Cracka plz.
Kyanbu The Legend
01-21-2010, 07:14 PM
15 then? 20?
Token
01-21-2010, 07:22 PM
Getting warmer...
Wigmund
01-21-2010, 10:05 PM
That means the Espada are all hanging out at King Kai's place in heaven with the good souls. I wonder what they are doing!
They're having tea with King Kai.
MasterOfMagic
01-21-2010, 10:43 PM
What, you think the story is actually going to end here? Hahahahahahah.
Its never ending. We haven't even seen the King's Palace or whatever yet.
Kyanbu The Legend
01-28-2010, 09:30 PM
So it looks like the next issues might be nothing but Aizen killing off pretty much everyone of the captains and Vizards from the looks of it. Also If you thought he was ridiculous before with is Zanpaktou then surprise it turns out he a god without it. It's actually not even his strongest ability. Also it seems he's so damn strong that I get the feeling that he's going to curb stomp Ichigo... again.
Aerozord
01-28-2010, 09:43 PM
well this shouldn't be too much of a suprise. So far no one he has curb stomped is the higher teirs. Remember Captain Commander could curb stomp these guys too
Kyanbu The Legend
01-28-2010, 09:46 PM
well this shouldn't be too much of a surprise. So far no one he has curb stomped is the higher teirs. Remember Captain Commander could curb stomp these guys too
Got so distracted by him not getting hit once that I forgot that he hasn't really fought any of the top teir capts.
Speaking of top teir capts, I wonder if Captain flowers and Captain Psycho are done murdering Yammy yet.
Wigmund
01-28-2010, 11:04 PM
Tite still hates those damn arms.
And what the hell are Kenpachi and Flowers up to? I'd be perfectly happy for a cut away from Aizen's Curb Stompin' Extravaganza to see their fight with the Yulk.
CABAL49
01-28-2010, 11:12 PM
This is when Kon comes in and uses Karakura Cannonball!
Ryong
02-04-2010, 10:42 AM
Oh man. See, I know Aizen is just using his zanpakutou to fool everyone, but screw it, Shinji randomly going "lol noob"? Oh man that was great.
greed
02-04-2010, 10:43 AM
Oh man Shinji's face and Aizen's quiet "shit..." on the second last page are priceless. I mean sure things will go back to invincible Aizen next week, but it's good to see him finally actually get hit(maybe, we hope).
Edit: Fuck, ninja'd by Ryong.
Bells
02-04-2010, 10:58 AM
I'm glad to see the characters in there actually have a sense of being REAL... since they noticed they couldn't deal with Aizen 1-on-1 they are actually combining their abilities to overload him and gang him up while he's still over confident of himself.
That's actually pretty smart!
I'm willing to be he got hurt, heals himself, Gin comes to the rescue and then Aizen notices that he might be just a tad over his head with this
Aerozord
02-04-2010, 01:33 PM
long as they dont go "he's perfectly fine" I am happy with what happened. Heck even ok if that was the end, as anti-climatic as it would be
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