Jet Helm Required! The Lufia 2 Let's Play

[Kim]

Some of you may have seen it. Some of you may have only heard of it in rumor. Either way, you cannot escape this Let's Play.

Lufia 2 is a turn-based RPG where the battles are initiated Earthbound style, at least in dungeons. The combat borrows from Dragon Quest, and there is a lot of puzzle solving blatantly ripped off inspired by Legend of Zelda. The plot is that you are a non-silent protagonist who finds out it is his destiny to... go around the world and fight monsters. Oh, and there are some super beings called Sinistrals, but I doubt they're important.

Chapter One - Mirai teaches NonCon the ropes. NonCon takes over silent protagonist duties for Maxim. (No Game Sound)

Part One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTWw_Kgggs4&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCV31WExTQ&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Three (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1IJhu-ATCE&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Four (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg_i05CvkSQ&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Five (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPtN9GrS1kk&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Six (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8b9YeiwQfk&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519&index=5)


Chapter Two - NonCon overcomes his muteness and converses with Mirai, but the poor audio quality gets in the way. (No Game Sound and Sound is Too Quiet)

Part Seven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jViaULq3jzc&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Eight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--AlWIDfUBI&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Nine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcNUfAN_tzk&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Ten (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBQuIV61-gk&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Eleven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kKIhXPb940&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Twelve (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JObi7J5pi78&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Thirteen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIkED7tXzHM&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)


Chapter Three - NonCon all alone. A short chapter that took no less than three attempts to get right. (Featuring Game Sound and Improved Audio/Video)

Part Fourteen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-7R-uCtKj8&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Fifteen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGxhiveufO0&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Sixteen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mLfpQboneU&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)


Chapter Four - NonCon runs on no sleep at six in the morning, conquering the least creatively named dungeon in history. (Featuring Game Sound and Improved Audio/Video)

Part Seventeen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__zVvQ80YuE&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Eighteen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCFFDnHSjvo&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Nineteen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bKTEKr22A8&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Twenty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3hzl_SPo74&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Twenty-One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqtg66sOXMM&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Twenty-Two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIp1uhB-guU&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)

Part Twenty-Three (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3WeD2hIY4&feature=PlayList&p=B9BF58DB5F3B9519)


Chapter Five - Fire dungeon is a bunch of bullshit.

Part Twenty-Four (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77M7eU3Ik3w)

Part Twenty-Five (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucNnHPmpdQY)

Part Twenty-Six (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNoiB7agiaA)

Part Twenty-Seven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXNL3DF0ehM)


Chapter Six - Survival

Part Twenty-Eight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU2cIC0jD14&fmt=18)

Part Twenty-Nine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQTGZ1ARe-g&fmt=18)

Montage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JKO0qWuSy0&fmt=18)


Chapter Seven - Was the montage enough?


Part Thirty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKZ_SdEn2D8&fmt=18)

Part Thirty-One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X56LIEX7tjE&fmt=18)


Chapter Seven - Mirai and NonCon Endurance Episode

Part Thirty-Two (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/1/)

Part Thirty-Three (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/2/)

Part Thirty-Four (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/3/)

Part Thirty-Five (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/4/)

Part Thirty-Six (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/5/)

Chapter Eight NonCon sucks at this game. (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/8/)

Chapter Nine - Professor NonCon and the Diabolical Boss (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/14/)

Chapter Ten (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/17/) - Entei digivolves into... Entei

Chapter Eleven (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/18/) - The worst puzzle

Also, if you encounter any problems with the links, let me know, and I'll try to fix them.

[Mirai Gen]

Aw man the collaborative LP needs my talents!

[Julford Hajime]

Important Note: I have the Jet Helm. I guess it is required to beat Gades, some boss who you can lose to and the story goes on. I ain't losing to him, though.
Ha.

Haha.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah, good luck with that. Next you'll be saying you want to beat the Ancient Dungeon before advancing the story [/Lufia2Reference]

But no seriously, forget beating that Gades. He's quite literally stronger than the final boss. All the Jet Helm is good for is getting to move before he does, and it doesn't help when he can kill half the party every turn (Unless you grind the hell out of your levels)

[Kim]

Now I want to pull it off out of spite. So is Jet Helm the only item with Sluggish or whatever? Do I even get anything cool for beating him?

[Julford Hajime]

Your reward for beating him besides rediculous exp and gold (The end bosses give 50000 of each, and I think Gades does here as well) is a sword that breaks the fuck out of the game.

It's slightly, slightly outclassed by endgame equipment, iirc, but I know it has an IP attack that hits an enemy 8 times. Basically, it's a one-hit kill on nearly every boss (I think only the optional bosses can survive) for the rest of the game, if a basic attack alone from the weapon-stronger-than-what-you-should-have-for-90%-of-the-game won't kill them.

And for realz, it's not worth the grinding. I've beaten that boss twice, once on a 4x Exp runthrough, and another on a glitch runthrough (There's a level 0 glitch that I used to give Tia rediculous stats and 999 HP. Makes the fight possible without grinding, but breaks the bejeezus out of the game. Enjoy ten minute loading screens at save points!). On the 4x run, I think I was hovering somewhere around mid-30s just to survive the fight.

When Lufia 2 wants to throw a broken-ass boss at you, it knows what it's doing.

EDIT: At that point, I beleive Jet Helm is the only stat reducer you have for enemies.

SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT STAT UP/DOWN SPELLS: I watched through Chapter 3 so far, and you were confused about how Sluggish worked. Any time a spell increases or decreases a stat, it's by a set percentage (Either 50% or 25%, I can't remember which). Every time that spell is used on that target again, it cuts the gain by half (So a 50% boost/drop the first time would become a 25% boost/drop the second time, 12.5% the third, and so on).

[Kim]

I have to say... I don't want that sword. If I had it I'd use it, and I don't want to use it. I mean, I'm not afraid to grind to get a really good weapon that lasts a while, but if it OHKOs the bosses, then fuck it. I want at least some challenge.

[Julford Hajime]

You can obtain the weapon normally through the course of the game if you try the bonus dungeon (It's 100 floors of randomly generated hell, don't do it!), but even then your chances of finding it are slim-to-none on account of the random generating-ness. Also, it might be a treasure you can't even take out of the dungeon, I can't recall (I just remember using it on the boss at the bottom).

*Psst* Look at edit above. I'm too lazy to copy/paste >.>

[Kim]

Also, feel free to share your thoughts on the LP itself. Good? Bad? Average? Is there anything you'd change or do differently?

[Julford Hajime]

It's been okay so far. Chapter 3, as you've said yourself in the videos, comes off really dry and uninteresting more or less because you've already had to do the run a bunch of times and lost it from technical problems.

Chapters 1 and 2 were great, though. Lufia 2's a favorite of mine, though, so I have a hard time not liking anything related to it. My bias makes me a non-trustable judge >.>

[Krylo]

It's been a long time since I've played that game, but I'm like 90% sure that rows work the same as in every other JRPG ever.

Which is to say, why is your squishy on the front lines and your strongest melee attack/def in the back?

[Kim]

I want to give a witty response, but I got nothing. I don't think I noticed until Chapter Four that there even were rows, and by then my short term memory was so shit, on account of it being six in the morning, that I forgot before the battle ended.

[EVILNess]

I kinda wish you had stuck with the Ogre Battle LP.

I also did several LPs on the 'Tube meself, such as SaGa Frontier and BoF2 with a really nice retranslation patch, and am currently slogging my way through Wild Arms and Final Fantasy Tactics, but that's neither here nor there.

[Mirai Gen]

I haven't played this game in like forever so I completely forgot about rearranging for rows. My fault, as I could have warned him.

Also I never really gave much thought to beating Gades first time in. He seriously walks up and uses Destruction and that's game, one round, bye. I never gave it much thought (though that you can is very cool).

[Kerensky287]

Also I never really gave much thought to beating Gades first time in. He seriously walks up and uses Destruction and that's game, one round, bye. I never gave it much thought (though that you can is very cool).

I wish more games were like that. I mean, you can beat Saturos and Menardi in Golden Sun the first time you meet them, and it just acts like you lost anyway.

Good LP so far, though! I'm considering giving the game a run myself now.

[Ravashak]

I can't see a way how to beat Saturos and Menardi with young Isaac and Garret, could be just me, though.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I can't see a way how to beat Saturos and Menardi with young Isaac and Garret, could be just me, though.

As far as I know you can't actually. Unless you cheat. I may be wrong, but I think not.

As for Gades. Starting with my second playthrough beating him became compulsory. I don't know. It's just that I know I CAN defeat him there... so I do it. Plus I usually get 4x Exp which makes the task much easier.

He's also possible to beat if you don't Grind to the max.
Moderate grinding will do (considering you get 4x exp, which you most likely don't), but the fight will be difficult. Still possible, though.
However, If you just want to play the game without an overpowered sword, it's not worth the effort unless you really love to brag.

[EVILNess]

He is totally worth killing cause the sword can be taken into the ancient cave. I mean, you really only have to be level 25ish to beat him.

[Kim]

Okay, things are looking so that Mirai will be able to join in again, without loss of video and audio quality, but we'll still lose game sound in those episodes. So, questions...

1. Should I do grinding behind the scenes or have it in the episodes?

2. Do you guys want to rename our Pokemon, and, if possible, any party members?

3. Should I do episodes that are without Mirai still, and have the Plus Mirai episodes be special once in a while things for when he has the time? Or should I only do episodes when he has the time to join in?

4. Should I talk to all the NPCs?

5. How soon is Gades and the Ancient Cave?

[A Zarkin' Frood]

1. Unless you have a godlike charisma and/or humour, no. Do it behind the scenes. Nothing can make grinding exciting. Except maybe a TRAINING MONTAGE with fitting music.

4. Only if you think you can make it entertaining in a way. You could just as well record talking to all the NPCs and cut out the boring bits, unless you're opposed to that idea for some reason.

5. Gades is in some Tower after the town of Parcelyte If I remember correctly, or maybe the town after that, but it's definitely a tower. And the first one in the game.
The ancient cave is an optional dungeon that resets all your characters levels to 1 and removes all equipment except what you found in blue chests inside the cave. Gades' sword happens to be one of these, even if you don't find it within the cave.
You can visit the Ancient Cave as soon as you aquire the ship. Or perhaps you have the possibility to pay for a ship to travel there, though, I'm not sure anymore if the game actually offers that possibility.

Memories are all blurry, need to play again.

[Jagos]

Yes, I'm cheating by looking it up.



Lufia II's Ancient Cave can be found north of Gruberik. In order to get there, you first need to have completed the game up to the point where you can access the Ustark Continent. From either Aleyn or Narcysus, tell Jyad that you want to go to Gruberik (or just warp there if you've already been there) and he'll take you there. Then, exit the town and head to the north.

[Kim]

What is the benefit to doing the Ancient Cave? Do you get the ultimate equipment? Bragging rights?

[EVILNess]

Also, the secret bosses are down there.

[Krylo]

There's treasures you can find that give you money, you get a shit ton of experience, and you get equipment that you can take out (or bring back down with you) that is of pretty good quality, depending on the level.

Think of it as your one stop shop for grinding equipment and levels.

It's hard as shit, though, 'cause unless you find a spell in a blue chest in there, you can't even take your magic in with you.

[Jagos]

Just want to emphasize...

You start at level one. No spells, no magic, no armor, No girlfriend, nothing.

If you find it in a blue chest, it's great to have when you go back. If you want to take on the last level, prepare to plan for a FULL day of trying to get to the last level.

[Kim]

If I can beat FFXII's Yiazmat in one sitting, I can probably handle the Ancient Cave. Probably.

[Krylo]

Nope.

It's like a bajillion levels, and you start at level 1 with no magic, and it scales faster than the actual game. I'm pretty sure you can't even grind, 'cause monsters don't respawn for you.

You're going to need to try a few times, collecting reliable equipment, and even then you'll need to get lucky enough to find a few healing spells. Healing spells are a necessity.

Seriously, it's damn near impossible.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

[...] you get a shit ton of experience.
Which you don't get to keep when leaving the cave, so yeah.
you start at Level one in the cave, and when you leave it's reset to what it was before.

The cave is more or less the part of the game for those who can't get enough of it after playing through the main story. If you beat the game on New Game+ you can even start an Ancient Cave only game and choose even characters you usually couldn't take into the Cave to accompany you.

I beat it once. On a emulator.
but I've tried several times to beat it with my regular SNES version. It has 99 Levels of randomly generated content. If you're out of luck you won't even find a blue chest in one run, or the item in it won't be of any use.
And since the enemies don't respawn you should beat every enemy on every level of the goddamn dungeon just to be on the safe side. And even then that doesn't necessarily mean you'll be strong enough for the later levels.

So I suggest you save the cave until you've finished the main game.

But Gades' Sword is definitely nice to have for that Dungeon, because it makes the first levels a breeze.

[Kim]

Chapter Five: Fire dungeon is a bunch of bullshit.

Part Twenty-Four (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77M7eU3Ik3w)

Part Twenty-Five (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucNnHPmpdQY)

Part Twenty-Six (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNoiB7agiaA)

Part Twenty-Seven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXNL3DF0ehM)


Summary: Went to the next town, didn't buy anything made out of glass, and told some rich guy I'd go to the North Cave and find him a ruby. Forgot to swap my rows this time around. Once in the dungeon, I found myself some new equipment and a Pokemon named Toast. (You guys should rename him.) Couldn't find the motherfucking key to move on though. Help a guy out!

[Julford Hajime]

At 0:17 on the last video, you can see a switch. Hit it with an arrow. You should be able to figure out the rest :P

And I said it on one of your videos, but... BLAZE/Toast should be Entei. Because he's one of the few capsule monsters that can easily reach it's higher forms in the game (Most others you get too late), and he's the fire elemental dog. Easily my favorite, though his low GUT stat makes him run away often.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I catched up with the LP now and think it's quite entertaining. Mostly due to nostalgia maybe, or not. I don't know and/or care about/for the reason/s.

Plus
At 0:17 on the last video, you can see a switch. Hit it with an arrow. You should be able to figure out the rest :P

Yeah, and that's actually very obvious HA.
But since I already tried to record a Let's Play myself I know how you tend to miss details like this while coming up with shit to say while walking past that crucial detail at least ten times. I've done that too with a much simpler game (The Guardian Legend).

[Kim]

Chapter Six: Survival

Part Twenty-Eight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU2cIC0jD14&fmt=18)

Part Twenty-Nine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQTGZ1ARe-g&fmt=18)

Montage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JKO0qWuSy0&fmt=18)


Summary - I grab the key after hitting the obvious switch. Also rearrange my party and rename my Fire Type Pokemon to Entei. Then I go fight the boss. I die. (In my defense I was playing it stupidly because I go into noob mode when Let's Playing. Won't make that mistake again.) Then we have the best training montage ever.

[Krylo]

So I started playing again. Just beat Gades, on a normal 1x exp play through, no glitching, off the cart.

To help you out if you decide to kick his ass for the LP, here's my levels:
Maxis-32
Guy-31
Selan-30
Tia-32

I barely made it through. Tia and Selan would be left in the teens, maybe twenties, sometimes even single digits after Gades attacked. This was with multiple layers of bravery on to increase my defense. It also took two sluggishes off the jet helm, plus a fake from the speed ring, and a fleet from from the kite shield for each character before we were able to move before Gades, so the first few rounds were extremely touch and go. Had to use two miracles, actually.

I'd suggest getting up another couple levels, and farming armor goblins for a second jet helm so you can drop two sluggishes in the first round and maybe with a few levels under your belt that plus a single fake can get you up to speed (or at least get TIA up to speed, so she can do some healing).


Anyway, for the battle we got 50k xp and gp, along with Gades Sword. Gades Sword has 200 ATP and the IP Octo-Strike to attack a single enemy eight times. It can be equipped by Guy.

After the battle Maxim Tia and Selan each gained one level. Guy gained two. Somehow. Musta been really close to level or something.

Oh, and at those levels Tia is pretty much useless except for the fact that she's fast. Selan can heal better than she can, and do more damage, and... yeah.

OOOOONNNNE MORE THING!

Your fire type has much better stats than your neutral type at equal level, except for GUTS, but for pets that just means your neutral type won't run away. If you've done any grinding at all you shouldn't have a problem, either way. I've only had Blaze run away after bosses have severely damaged him.

Edit: And I forgot that Guy leaves your party right after and takes all his shit with him. Damn, now I can't give it to Dekar when I get him.

Edit 2: Your best place for xp per hour for the grind is right outside of Parcelyte. You can occassionally fight groups of red cubes. They have about 200 agility and tend to run, but if they don't run they only have 10 hp and can be hurt by magic. They're worth 2222 xp a piece. The best xp you can get otherwise is about half that, and isn't as reliable, in Gades tower. Armor goblins are also common there--and they have a chance to drop the Jet Helm.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Chapter Six: Survival
Summary - I grab the key after hitting the obvious switch. Also rearrange my party and rename my Fire Type Pokemon to Entei. Then I go fight the boss. I die. (In my defense I was playing it stupidly because I go into noob mode when Let's Playing. Won't make that mistake again.) Then we have the best training montage ever.

The spider boss is the first asshole-boss in the game.
It's pretty tough. You might want to kill his companions a bit more often, but that's up to you. And use the item attacks more frequently, especially Tia's aqua whip one in that case.

But after a training Montage it should be impossible to lose anyway, unless you losing is crucial to the plot. Which it isn't.

[Krylo]

The spider boss is the first asshole-boss in the game.
It's pretty tough. You might want to kill his companions a bit more often, but that's up to you. And use the item attacks more frequently, especially Tia's aqua whip one in that case.

But after a training Montage it should be impossible to lose anyway, unless you losing is crucial to the plot. Which it isn't.

I've been bulldozing everything... but then I have a policy of "if it moves it dies". Doesn't matter how many times I re-enter an area.

I find that it keeps you at a pretty good (slightly high) level without feeling overly grindy.

[Kim]

Thanks for the tips, Krylo. Much appreciated.

The spider boss is the first asshole-boss in the game.
It's pretty tough. You might want to kill his companions a bit more often, but that's up to you. And use the item attacks more frequently, especially Tia's aqua whip one in that case.

Because she's the caster, I'm always inclined to assume the only good thing she can do is cast Strong, Gale, or Flash, even though I've seen several times before that that isn't the case. :/ I'll probably have Guy use Immobilize more too, since that seemed to do a fair amount of damage to all foes, and I'm hoping it might at least paralyze the mini-spiders if it doesn't kill them.

But after a training Montage it should be impossible to lose anyway, unless you losing is crucial to the plot. Which it isn't.

Well, Entei evolved and everyone is about four levels higher than they were. I think I should be good to go.

[Julford Hajime]

Edit 2: Your best place for xp per hour for the grind is right outside of Parcelyte. You can occassionally fight groups of red cubes. They have about 200 agility and tend to run, but if they don't run they only have 10 hp and can be hurt by magic. They're worth 2222 xp a piece. The best xp you can get otherwise is about half that, and isn't as reliable, in Gades tower. Armor goblins are also common there--and they have a chance to drop the Jet Helm.
I'll contest that with a respawning 4 skeleton fight worth 600 exp and with Selan and Tia casting a hit-all Spark on them being able to ORKO (Actually, you might have Fireball then, which'd guarantee it).

I think there's one of those in Gades Tower, and if not I remember seeing it in that "Figure out the time" puzzle from SE Tower.

Also, I'm pretty sure those spiders are weak to fire. I know the Skeletons are in that same dungeon.

[Krylo]

I'll contest that with a respawning 4 skeleton fight worth 600 exp and with Selan and Tia casting a hit-all Spark on them being able to ORKO (Actually, you might have Fireball then, which'd guarantee it).You don't get fireball until right after the tower, and all hit sparks can't one, or even two hit that fight. You can two hit/one round the skeletons, but the ghouls will generally survive, and there's usually only one skeleton.

Further the respawning fight is random between a 4 or 5 skeleton/ghoul combo for roughly 600 xp down to a single skeleton or ghoul worth 150 or less.

I'll admit that due to the 'instant respawn' of that fight it may still be roughly equivalent xp per hour, but it's also boring as fuck. I was using it for awhile, before I remembered the red cubes and decided 'fuck this'.

[Kim]

Chapter Seven: Was the montage enough?

Part Thirty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKZ_SdEn2D8&fmt=18)

Part Thirty-One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X56LIEX7tjE&fmt=18)


Short episode due to babysitting duties.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I said the boss is an asshole, didn't I?
But you made it after all.
Maybe it goes against your hero of justice thing, but if someone's paralyzed and you can't heal them, just let them die and revive them. Especially if you are going to use a miracle on them after the fight anyways. Even though you could've just taken him to the church to get him revived. (Or an Inn, I don't know if churches do that anymore)

Also: I think there's only one more dungeon before Gades tower now, but I don't remember all the insignificant dungeons like the Camu Tower, which you should go back to, because despite what you are led to believe, it didn't collapse. And you can take what's in the three treasure chests (with some decent armor if I remember correctly) on the top level. I think I should have told you that earlier. But the contents may still be useful.

While I'm at it, the time puzzle was in that tower too, right? I don't remember if you did it, or what you get for it. But if you set the time to 12:00 you get something. (I think the hint on the tablet is something like "when a new day starts" translated directly from what I vaguely remember from the German version.)

[Mirai Gen]

I need to get back into co-hosting this thing.

Also - hit R to select everyone, in case you didn't know. What're you up to saturday?

[Kim]

I think I should have Saturday free. Should be able to record, assuming nothing goes too wrong.

[Krylo]

More advice: Go to the ancient cave asap.

The blue chest gear? Fuckin' spiff.

There's, for instance, a sword in there for Selan that has an attack power of 400 (!!). Remember Gades Blade? The one that was all like "Oh man that's so OP"? Yeah, that had an ATP of a mere 200. You can also get a snow sword, again, for Selan, with an ATP of something like 360 or 340, but it also has 60 or 40 DFP (better than most armor), a water gauntlet for her shield spot with 75 defense on it (about double the best shield I've been able to get for her so far), a jewel that gives thirty AGI--enough to make Guy faster than most enemies.

The list goes on.

Basically you can get end game equipment early on in there.

And judging by the trouble you had with that spider, it'd probably help you out a lot.

[BitVyper]

I can never decide whether I like the Sinistral battle sprites better in Lufia 1 or Lufia 2. In Lufia 1 they ooze power, but the Lufia 2 ones feel more titanic. The builkier build gives them more gravity.

[Kim]

So you get to keep the blue chest gear? I thought someone was saying you didn't. :/

[Krylo]

So you get to keep the blue chest gear? I thought someone was saying you didn't. :/

Blue chest gear you keep. Everything else stays in the dungeon.

Edit:

You're set to level one upon entering with all your equipment, items, and spells removed--except for equipment found in blue chests within the cave (the Gades Sword counts toward this, even if you didn't find it there). This, unfortunately, includes your tools and your reset spell. Even your capsule monsters are devolved. On each level there's a variety of enemies and chests, which you use to gain experience and gear up for lower levels. Most items are in red chests, which means that they will disappear when you leave the cave. Red chest items are usually of relatively congruent quality to what you might find normally at the character levels you're currently at, with the occasional far weaker or far stronger piece (like finding a thunder axe on the first level, or a battle knife on the 35th). These, again, disappear when you leave.

However, on rare occasion. Perhaps once every 10 levels, if you're lucky, you will find a blue chest. These blue chests have gear that is equivalent to end game items, or close to it, and they can be brought in and out of the cave as you like, being used in the overworld and in the cave itself on future explorations.

In this way, every foray into the cave makes you more powerful for the next. It also gives you a reason to enter it--the gear.

Unfortunately there's still a heavy level of luck involved in you getting to the bottom, and the game definitely rewards different gear in the cave than outside. For instance, outside? You want high defense on your armor. Inside? You'll find yourself wearing a shitty tough hide well into the 30s, maybe even the 40s, because you haven't found a healing spell yet, and that re-energize IP ability is just more useful than an extra 60 DFP when it's your only method of keeping your team alive. And if you don't find armor with a healing IP or some healing magic? Well... then you're just kinda fucked.

Not to mention that healing magic itself isn't even that useful, because there's no way to regenerate MP other than IP abilities on armor (silva armor, mirak plate, magic bikini) or high-magics and ex-magics found sporadically in chests.

You'll find that you'll never cast attack magic, because it's just not worth the MP cost when you can't easily regenerate it.

So yeah, Ancient Cave--totally different game.

Also, that 400 ATP sword? Holy elemental. That makes it even better. Especially considering Gades Sword can't hurt undead, while the blaze sword does double + damage to them. There are lots of undead in the game.

[Kim]

Okay, so since I can get the three treasure chests plus a hidden one from that tower I thought had collapsed after I got teleported out, should I do that behind the scenes before the next episode, or during?

[EVILNess]

Some tips for the ancient cave, the best party I can think of for it is Arty, Guy, Selan, and Maxim, so that gives you a time frame for when your party is best for doing it. I personally find that being fast outweighs being strong in that place, because going first has saved my life so many times while doing the Ancient Cave.

There is also some blue quest equipment you can bring down with you from the regular world, mainly jewels, being the Earth Jewel, Twist Jewel, Gloom Jewel, Thundo Jewel, Gorgan Rock, Water Jewel, Catfish Jewel, Camu Jewel, and Spido Jewel. The Catfish Jewel is dropped by the catfish boss, and if you got it then hey it has a great IP to get you through the lower levels.

If you can collect Twist Jewels before you go in I highly suggest you do it. They are amazing.

BE warned though, the Ancient Cave is much more difficult than the normal game and filming a descent would be taxing on your harddrive since a single run can take HOURS

[Krylo]

Some tips for the ancient cave, the best party I can think of for it is Arty, Guy, Selan, and Maxim, so that gives you a time frame for when your party is best for doing it. I personally find that being fast outweighs being strong in that place, because going first has saved my life so many times while doing the Ancient Cave.

I personally prefer going in with Dekar and shifting around twist jewels and (if I can get them) speed rings to make sure Guy or Dekar are able to keep up, or to make Selan or Maxim faster than the fastest enemies as necessary.

Speed is all well and good in there, but Arty isn't all the great without magic, and if you can go first but don't kill anything it's kind of pointless.

Then again I'm not 100% on whether he can equip the snow sword or blaze sword, so maybe he's not entirely useless after a few partial runs.

That's also the earliest party you can go in with, which has it's own advantages, as well (like taking the blue chest ownage out into the game world sooner).

[Kim]

Where do I get twist jewels?

Also, with the Ancient Cave, my plan is to use save states so that I don't have to do it in one sitting, but maybe having a backup save at the beginning that I go to if I die.

[Krylo]

If you die in the ancient cave they just boot you to the exit without being able to take your spiffy blue chest items that you found that trip out with you.

[EVILNess]

There is a lizard in the Divine Shrine after you get Arty. Otherwise you have to collect them from the monsters in the ancient cave. Its B-something Lizard, and they do appear in the AC if you don't want to wait for Arty.

As for me I prefer having Arty over Dekar, but I can see the merits in using Dekar for sure. It's just two different ways to approach the same problem.

Actually, if you wanna record the AC you might just wanna skip it until you have beaten the game. Gift Mode allows you to take anyone into the cave with you, and the AC can be frustrating when you get down to the 90s and get owned by two Gold Dragons (Which drop a Blue chest item incidentally) I am not exaggerating when I say the AC can take HOURS. Hell, it can take DAYS.

It definitely isn't meant to be tackled in a single go down, you are meant to get blue chest items and then Providence out as as soon as you find one and then start over so you can keep your blue chest items.

[Mirai Gen]

The Ancient Cave has one cool option - you unlock just "Ancient Cave Mode" when you beat the game and can pick it like it was part of New Game/New Game Plus.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

But didn't that just "Ancient Cave Mode" only become unlocked after beating a New Game+ and is called Gift? You could still cheat to get that, but as far as I know the only benefit for that is that you can choose the party. Incidentally the party that is, in my opinion, the best for the Cave is the one you should have when you're first able to enter the Cave. The Endgame Party isn't bad at all for it as well. The main advantage of the first party, though, is, that it has Guy and Dekar, the baddest dudes in the game's world.

[Jagos]

Can I just say I love Dekar? He has to be the most awesome idiot in the series.

[EVILNess]

Can I just say I love Dekar? He has to be the most awesome idiot in the series.

I'll agree with you there. I seem to recall he actually died at one point in the game, but then went "Pshaw! I am Dekar, I am the STRONGEST!" and then didn't die.

[Kim]

Great news! Dekar makes his debut in the latest chapter of LPL2!

Warning: This latest chapter is fucking long.


Chapter Seven: Mirai and NonCon Endurance Episode

Part Thirty-Two (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/1/)

Part Thirty-Three (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/2/)

Part Thirty-Four (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/3/)

Part Thirty-Five (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/4/)

Part Thirty-Six (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/5/)

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Ugh, I hate those video sites that only buffer, like... the next thirty seconds of a video and assume you have a powerful enough connection to carry on from there. But I can see why you don't want to break up a long session into tiny 10 Minute segments. So I'm downloading this right now even though that one episode is 150 MB huge and it will take a while to complete. So I hope it's worth it.

[Ravashak]

It's entertaining watching you struggle with the puzzles xP

[Mirai Gen]

I actually forgot how to do the third yellow block puzzle.

EDIT: We seriously did this for four hours. 'Endurance' is the keyword.'

[Krylo]

I actually forgot how to do the third yellow block puzzle.

EDIT: We seriously did this for four hours. 'Endurance' is the keyword.'

Took me like... ten, twelve tries? Something like that.

But yeah, that one is a bitch. I couldn't remember it either.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Doesn't zsnes offer the option to speed up the game on the press of a button? Because the countless fights sure can drag on. Also, I think if you hold R when selecting battle orders it just lets everyone attack. Maybe it's L.

[EVILNess]

Doesn't zsnes offer the option to speed up the game on the press of a button? Because the countless fights sure can drag on. Also, I think if you hold R when selecting battle orders it just lets everyone attack. Maybe it's L.

You know what drags on worse than random battles? Listening to the horrendously horrible stuff that is sped up music.

[Mirai Gen]

Yeah I could never butcher the Lufia II music like that. Plus it'd be kind of annoying.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

As great as the music may be, fighting the same damn monster for the whateverxillionth time is, in my opinion, a good bit more annoying, like it was the case in the Ancient Tower.
But maybe that's just me, since the first thing I get bored of in any JRPG are the battles. Except in Persona Games and SMT Nocturne for whatever reason.

[EVILNess]

Except in Persona Games and SMT Nocturne for whatever reason.

Thats because you are too busy going "Shit! SHIT! NOOOOO, NOT HAMA! NOOOOO, YOU MUDO USING FUCKERS!" to get tired of fighting the same enemies.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

It might be that or the games force you to do other things than just attack, making the battles slightly more interesting. For me at least.
In contrast to Lufia, where I always only rushed through the dungeons, only fighting monsters that directly blocked my path, so I can beat the boss already. That made the boss fights less boring because my Level was lower than it usually would have been.

But yeah, if you don't want to hyperspeed through the battles I don't mind. I just thought it might be nice to have the possibility to quasi-skip the third fight against the same monster in the same room for NonCon who's actually playing the game.
Me? I'm just watching.

[Kim]

Sorry for the delay. Won't happen again.

Chapter Eight: NonCon sucks at this game. (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/8/)

[Loyal]

Says it's unavailable. What gives?

[Kim]

I tried logging out and I can still view it, so I dunno!

[Krylo]

I can also watch it. Must be something on Loyal's end.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I think Regains, which you have two of in your inventory and could have bought at the store, revive fallen party members.

But yeah, there are ten minutes of video left loading, so maybe you found out till then.

EDIT: You didn't. :(

[Loyal]

Yeah, I can see it now. Will watch it momentarily.

[Kim]

I think Regains, which have two of in your inventory and could have bought at the store, revive fallen party members.

I'm gonna blame the terrible descriptors for that one. They're just useless.

[Mirai Gen]

You can blame Engrish on the bad descriptors. (Restores Fight Power = Ressurect).

I'm just looking forward to his reaction to the Submarine Shrine.

EDIT: NOBODY SPOIL IT

[Krylo]

You know, if he's romming it, you can FIX that...

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I'm gonna blame the terrible descriptors for that one. They're just useless.
That's why I didn't laugh at you.

I assume they are useless in the original version as well.
The German version that I played had something similar.

Or it was translated using the English version as the source.
Which I hope isn't true, because that'd mean all I know about Lufia is a mistranslated lie, twice.

[Kim]

Chapter Nine - Professor NonCon and the Diabolical Boss (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/14/)

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I just noticed that about 70 % of this game are filler.
I can't believe it took me that long to find out. I can't wait for the part of the game where you just visit a sequence of dungeons for the sole reason of visiting dungeons. Then suddenly things start to happen again.
But maybe (I hope) I mixed something up, because my memories of this game are kinda blurry.

[Kim]

Chapter Ten (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/17/)

Boss fight, Entei digivolves, bodysnatchers are afoot, and this game has the most unimaginative names in gaming history.

Chapter Eleven (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/18/)

Another boss fight, some Dekar awesomeness, and a puzzle gets mostly skipped over after taking me half an hour.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Instead of mashing A in battles you could just hold L (or I think maybe it was X or Y... some button like that) to just attack with everyone.

I'll watch the remaining 35 minutes of chapter 11 later. When I'm done eating in case you care.

Edit: Watched it now. It's really entertaining to watch you struggling with puzzles even after you cut a, supposedly large chunk, of it and, I assume, looking the solution up. I think I always solved the puzzle differently, though. On my 23234 playthroughs, that is. Well, I keep forgetting details like Idura's part in the story. I don't know if there's the big climatic showdown with him somewhere or if he just stops appearing.

[Kim]

Chapter Twelve (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/19/)

The description on the video is vague because I honestly can't remember what I did this episode, except go east. I've had the video recorded for about a week now, and internet kept going funky so I didn't get it uploaded sooner.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TooCoolToLive

I'm glad you finally figured out Lufia Puzzle Law #1: If you don't know how to proceed, blow shit up.

Or in your own words: "Bombs solve everything."

It almost always works.

[Kim]

In this chapter we do something completely fucking irrelevant.

Chapter Thirteen (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/21/)

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I think this dungeon is about the worst offender when it comes to being filler you'll find in the game. Because all it does is really just being thrown into the game at that point instead of somewhere else where it would make more sense.
Almost as if the developers made too much dungeons for the game, but didn't want to cut anything.

Firedog McFlamelizard (the one you have now) is the best Pokemon in the game, I think. It's the only one I ever used, except the carrot one time. Which I did because I thought it was cool to have stuff killed by a carrot.
I don't remember whether he was particularly good/bad/ugly or not. I never cared for capsule monsters' stats that much as long as they killed something with an overpowered attack often enough.

[Kim]

Chapter Fourteen (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/22/)

I don't care for Cid as much as I did Dekar, though perhaps not being able to afford spells for him yet is too blame. I saw some bitchin' spells. Also, feel free to make fun of my stupidity this episode. I certainly did.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I love how the game text implies you spent a few days attempting to solve that puzzle.

There are two noteworthy sidequests in the game.
One is the Ancient cave of 99 randomly generated levels that may or may not kill you.
The other is to collect all the dragon eggs 10000 times to get some bonuses and fight some boss if you've done it often enough.
I don't think there's anything else that would qualify as a sidequest.

I remember spending hours trying to get that old guy in Randomtown2 to take my tea from Randomtown1, though. The game is built in a way that makes you think there's more to do.
Almost as if they forgot to implement the actual sidequests before the release.

But yeah, the warrior lady is Selan.

[Kim]

Yeah, I just assumed that since some people were telling new stuff, that people in that town would stop telling me to do quests I did hours ago.

In other news: Chapter Fifteen (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/23/)

Fucking ninjas.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I'm pretty sure you can reach that three chests through a secret passage that might be hidden in the walls behind one of those bushes to the left. Just a guess, but I'm still pretty sure. and I don't see any other way.
There's no need going back to the door at the end of the dungeon by the way. It's locked.

Also: I can't believe you fought all those Ninjas. I got pissed fighting those goddamn invincible gods of stealth and death and fffFFF
so I just shot burning arrows in their faces to avoid them.

[Kim]

Chapter Sixteen (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/24/)

Anyone know what I do next? Reason the audio is kinda weird is I tried to have some music not from the game in the background instead, just to see if that was better/worse, and it was loud enough to mess with the "remove noise" thing I use, but not loud enought that you can actually hear it. :/

[A Zarkin' Frood]

1. Everybody should be gotten into Nocturne.
2. Maaaaan, NonCon, use the ball and chain labeled as "Hammer" to push far away pillars. I've seen you do it. I think.
3. In case you're going to do some image + text posts you might want to try Faststone Image Viewer (http://www.faststone.org/download.htm) which is freeware and allows for mass converting, renaming and resizing image files. Though I haven't tried the resizing part yet.

[Kim]

Chapter Seventeen (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/25/)

Also gonna try out image updates for a little while starting now, and I'm always open to criticism.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00000.jpg

When in doubt, go south!

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00001.jpg

What do you know! It worked!

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00002.jpg

MUST... NOT... MAKE... BAD PUN...

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00004.jpg

Sounds like Treble... Oh goddammit!

Lady is jumping to some pretty extreme conclusions though. She doesn't go with aliens, meteor, or anything like that. She goes straight for End of the World.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00005.jpg

Why does everyone here assume that light means Treb- FUCK.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00007.jpg

No, but I bet you're going to tell me!

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00008.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00009.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00010.jpg

Sounds like a waste of time. I won't bother.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00011.jpg

Go south harder!

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00013.jpg

A rose by any other name would drain your blood.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00014.jpg

That's... That's real original game. Real original.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00015.jpg

I assume it's called that because it is the place to which I'll never return?

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00016.jpg

Yeah, I'm all out of Scooby Snacks.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00017.jpg

Is the guy here secretly a Captain Planet villain?

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00018.jpg

I forgot to snap a shot of some kid telling me about a dude making submarines.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00021.jpg

You're hair is bizarre enough for you to be important! How's that submarine coming along?

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00022.jpg

Please don't let him use our ship please don't let him use our ship please don't-

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00024.jpg

Oh what the hell, Cid. You at least promise it won't blow up?

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00026.jpg

This can only end in tears...

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00027.jpg

I don't really have a choice, do I?

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00028.jpg

I didn't really have a choice.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00029.jpg

The world's smallest four passenger ship returns!

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00031.jpg

Old man what are you doing to that girl?

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00032.jpg

Uuuuuuuhhhhhh...

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00033.jpg

Didn't you see? No, but seriously, she stole some submarine makin' plans.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00034.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00035.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00036.jpg

Racists.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00037.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00038.jpg

I'd really rather not beat up on a defenseless elf girl.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00039.jpg

Totally didn't see this coming from a mile away.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Have fun with the next filler dungeon. I played through this game several times and... wow... I don't even remember half of this filler.

I guess Nostalgia drowned out these parts of the game.
But at least you've met some plot-relevant NPCs.

And as far as I remember the game is getting closer to the end. I think there are only a few more dungeons after you ditch Lexis (which, I reckon, is pretty soon) and welcome Artea, androgynous elf, into your party

[Kim]

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00000.jpg
And off we go to the Mountain of No Return!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00001.jpg
I'm thinking we go eastaways.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00002.jpg
I want to find whoever named all the shit in this game and strangle them.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00003.jpg
These statues have this unhealthy obsession with keeping me from where I need to go. The best solution is to put them in the way of each other.

ALTERNATE ANSWER: Awwwww they in luuuuuuuv.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00004.jpg
Things did not go so well this time around.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00005.jpg
After about five tries we have ourselves a workable solution!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00007.jpg
Motherfucker!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00009.jpg
Not even evil statues can keep me away from the prize. The prize was an Aqua Sword, by the way. I rearrange more statues and head on out.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00010.jpg
You know, I'm getting a little tired of rescuing damsels in distress.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00011.jpg
These look... less than threatening...
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00012.jpg
Unless you're Entei apparently.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00013.jpg
AMAZING?
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00014.jpg
What? She was gonna tell me how damn awesome I am.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00015.jpg
Ah, I was hoping Artea would be a girl. This party needs to be less of a sausage fest.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00016.jpg
And she was going to thanks us before you interrupted.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00017.jpg
Draining ooze? Wouldn't that be a good thing, since that would make there be less ooze?
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00018.jpg
"What if you had to steal a loaf of bread to feed your family?"
"It's a trick question. The bread is poisoned and it's not your real family."
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00019.jpg
No, the ooze was going into the lab.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00020.jpg
You know... I didn't really notice that before. Hm.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00021.jpg
Not-Cid shares my sentiment.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00022.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00023.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00024.jpg
Grab your popcorn everybody... It's LECTURE TIME.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00025.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00026.jpg
These aren't the real plans at all!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00027.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00028.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00029.jpg
It's not to... you know... protect the environment or anything? It's just to show off how awesome you are? Really?
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00030.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00031.jpg
Dude. She's like... ten. Don't even go there.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00032.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00033.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00034.jpg
Thank God he's gone. Worst party member in the game.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00035.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00036.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00037.jpg
In my native tongue, we call it the Sun.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00038.jpg
Gigundo being a scientific term, of course.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00039.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00040.jpg
We've seen a GIGUNDO ball of light before, too!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00041.jpg
Are we sure it's that Sinistral? I mean, aren't there four of them? Kind of a logical leap we're making there.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00042.jpg
Why is everybody in this game so damn racist.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00043.jpg
That's right, Maxim. Threaten him.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00044.jpg
Nobody fucks with Maxim.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00045.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00046.jpg
No, not your Karyn. Karyn Jones. She runs the bakery.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00047.jpg
His Spirit Pressure was so strong. Even without going Bankai!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00048.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00049.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00050.jpg
I like being left out of the conversation. Don't you?
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00051.jpg
I'd say the name is pretty self-explanatory.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00052.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00053.jpg
Are you sure? Maybe if he absorbs too much, he'll pop just like a cliche bubble.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00054.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00055.jpg
Maybe you could come with? I'm just saying...
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00056.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00057.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00058.jpg
What the hell kind of elf says "futz"?
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00059.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00060.jpg
Why don't you lead the way? You know where it is beyond a direction on a compass, after all.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00061.jpg
Nobody else asks the important questions.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00062.jpg

[A Zarkin' Frood]

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00043.jpg
That's right, Guy. Threaten him.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%202%20Update%202/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00044.jpg
Nobody fucks with Guy.

I'm not usually the one to fix posts but... here you go.

That Gigundo bit was gold. I didn't laugh that hard the entire day.

[Kim]

Apologies for the long gap between updates, yet again. This doesn't seem to be all that popular of an LP, so motivating myself is kinda hard, plus I swore off jRPGs for a few months recently. Anywho, I am going to finish this LP, I promise. It's just taking longer than it should.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00000.jpg
When we last left our adventurers, a dirty, stinking elf had been captured by a gigundo ball of light. Snake! Get in there!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00001.jpg
Whaaaaaaaaaaaathefuckisthat
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00002.jpg
So, our latest dungeon is the Divine Shrine, where you move about from pillar to pillar. That's really all there is to it. This is most of a solution for one of them. It's enough to solve it without problems. There's another I forgot to snap a pic of, but none of these are really all that hard.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00003.jpg
This room was full of monsters before I got here. I'm just that awesome.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00004.jpg
There's got to be a secret wall here....

There wasn't. Pointless grinding room I guess.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00005.jpg
Here's where doing that bit from earlier gets you. Go up the stairs and they'll take you to that treasure chest pretty easy.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00006.jpg
Which has a rocket ring! In retrospect, I should probably put it on my caster/healer, since that's the more important job than just hitting the dudes with a sword.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00007.jpg
If you aren't using a walkthrough, prepare to spend a lot of time on the ground, lost and unsure of what to do.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00009.jpg
Anyway, that other path I mentioned earlier gets you some revive armor, which was a little bit better than what I had. Forgot to check and see what it does though.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00010.jpg
Anywho, to finish this section up once you have the key (I didn't show how to get it cuz it's honestly the easiest key to find out of all the dungeons so far), go back up those stairs I gave the walkthrough for before, move some pots, and fall down a hole. Congratulations!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00011.jpg
Oh man, the torches are lighting themselves! You know what that means? Awesome boss fight coming up.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00012.jpg
Riding the moving platform. Just hit the buttons to make it move back and forth. Wheee!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00013.jpg
This passage opens up on its own for you and doesn't really serve a point. Just more building up to the awesome boss fight ahead.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00014.jpg
GEE I WONDER WHAT I DO HERE
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00015.jpg
Bobomb! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDLzWmHMMfY)
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00016.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00017.jpg
And here's the solution that I figured out entirely on accident. Go me!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00018.jpg
I have five of these things now. I forget how many there are total, but I'm getting close... I think.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00019.jpg
Obvious puzzle is obvious.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00020.jpg
That is the worst villain hair I've ever seen. Who could take a villain with green hair seriously? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohU16OiduUs)
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00021.jpg
Naw, that's just a rumor we spread around to get adventurers to clear the place out from time to time.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00022.jpg
Well... yeah.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00023.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00024.jpg
Dude, you grabbed the wrong chick!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00025.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00026.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00027.jpg
And it sounded kinda fun. I don't go out much.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00028.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00029.jpg
Don't forget! He has gigundo energy!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00030.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00031.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00032.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00031.jpg
Sorry, I still didn't quite get that.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00033.jpg
Oh man, awesome boss fight, here we come!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00035.jpg
This is gonna be so cool!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00036.jpg
Karyn! Your character sprite is fading!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00037.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00038.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00039.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00040.jpg
OH GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00041.jpg
I know, Arty. What a bitch.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00042.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00043.jpg
I wanted to fight that boss.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00044.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00045.jpg
That's why I wanted to fight him!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00046.jpg
No. (http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/)
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00047.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00048.jpg
Wait. I thought his name was Gigundo!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00049.jpg
Hell no. We don't like your kind around these parts. Filthy elves.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00050.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00051.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00052.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00053.jpg
We really just ran a dungeon without knowing each others names? What?
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00054.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00055.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00056.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/nonconneko/Lufia%203/LufiaII-RiseoftheSinistralsU_00057.jpg

And that's how I beat the WORST. DUNGEON. EVER.

Dungeon was really easy, no boss fight, and then it gives you a stat boost through the door behind Artea. Really, just a major disappointment on so many levels.

[Mirai Gen]

Yeah I wasn't a big fan of that fight.

Though you've finally got The Party, which means you're getting closer to the epic end of the game. Though I might be biased based on my track record of loving Lufia II's music.

[Julford Hajime]

No Mirai, you're pretty much right. Starting from the moment you finally get Dual Blade all the way through the final button press is pretty damn epic.

The moments leading up to it are rather bizarre, confusing, AND completely unexplained, but hey the ending segment itself makes me tear up every time just from the levels of badass displayed, so I'd have to say they got THAT right at least.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Well at least you got something from all of this.

[Kim]

A video update? Blasphemy. (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/27/)

The audio quality kinda sucks. I won't be using that mic again, that's for certain. Anywhos, I don't really know what the point of that dungeon was, or where I go next, but at least I'm done with it.

EDIT: I managed to throw together a version with better audio. You can either wait for that, which will be up later tonight, or just watch this one.

EDIT2: I'm going to try and do another update later tonight as well. Anyone who'll be available a couple hours from now and wants to chip in with some commentary, send me a PM and we can hook up with Skype.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Watching you in that submarine hurt my brain.

You should go to a church to uncurse that Evil Jewel so you can unequip it if desired
Also: There's a bow that attacks all enemies, I don't think it's the cursed one, though.

[Menarker]

The bow that attacks all enemies would be the "Arty Bow" named after the elf in the party. :3

[shiney]

I swear to fucking god NonCon if you don't finish this LP I will fucking ban you, the Lufia games are distilled awesome.

[Kim]

Here's a better audio quality version of what I posted yesterday (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/28/)

And here's the next episode I recorded with my friend (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/29/)

I swear to fucking god NonCon if you don't finish this LP I will fucking ban you, the Lufia games are distilled awesome.

Well now I'm tempted to never finish out of spite. I'll stop right before this epic ending everyone is telling me about :dance:

[EVILNess]

Well now I'm tempted to never finish out of spite. I'll stop right before this epic ending everyone is telling me about :dance:

It's okay, they pretty much spoil the whole thing in the opening of Lufia and the Fortress of Doom. Just load that up and BOOM 3 minutes of gameplay fills in most of your questions.

[Julford Hajime]

It's okay, they pretty much spoil the whole thing in the opening of Lufia and the Fortress of Doom. Just load that up and BOOM 3 minutes of gameplay fills in most of your questions.

That's vaguely half-true and you know it. Lufia 1's prologue contains the most basic aspects of the ending to Lufia 2, and none of the stuff that made it, y'know, GOOD.

But yes, PLEASE finish this, Noncon. You'll be a better catgirl-ish boy for it.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

It's almost over anyway. I remember that dragon dungeon being one of the very last. And it MIGHT be the next one.
On the other hand, it has some pretty wicked puzzles as well as the optional puzzle of despair.

[Julford Hajime]

It's almost over anyway. I remember that dragon dungeon being one of the very last. And it MIGHT be the next one.
On the other hand, it has some pretty wicked puzzles as well as the optional puzzle of despair.

I haven't watched that one yet, but if he's at Dragon Mountain, he still has five or six more dungeons yet. Granted, several of them (The last three in particular) are about five minutes + boss fight long, but it counts.

[Kim]

I just finished the dungeon with the Mirror of Truth. I don't know if it told me what my next mission is though.

[Julford Hajime]

Hint: Head back to Chead. There you will find PLOT.

Also, just finished watching that vid. I demand that Daren is present for all future recordings.

[Kim]

optional puzzle of despair

Darren and I just finished recording the next ep and fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you FUCK YOU.

That GODDAMN FUCKING PUZZLE. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK.

Anyway, looks to be a bit longer episode than the last two. It's gonna take a while before actually uploading it is finished. I'm expecting Midnight update at the very soonest.

[Julford Hajime]

Darren and I just finished recording the next ep and fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you FUCK YOU.

That GODDAMN FUCKING PUZZLE. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK.

Man, I knew I forgot to warn you about something!

But yeah, that seems to be the typical reaction to that puzzle. It was my reaction back in... '97? '98? I'unno, whenever I bought the game, and it was my brothers reaction two years later when he tried the game out.

[Kim]

NonCon and Darren Play Professor Layton or Some Shit (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/30/)

Wherein I'm a jerk to my little brother hahaha~

[Julford Hajime]

Of course, the people watching this are kind of jerks, so maybe they're getting a laugh at our suffering.
Yeah. I totally am :P

Also, SISSY. You looked up the solution instead of spending two hours toiling constantly at the puzzle as it slowly destroyed your mind. You didn't let the puzzle toy with you, move after agonizing move, as you regretted ever daring the world's toughest puzzle.Not that I'm bitter.

EDIT: And for the record, Lizard Blow is incredibly useful. Why? "Endgame is 90% dragon"

ONE MORE THING EDIT: You're going to need these directions in the next video. You will know when the time is right:
-Walk up until you hit a wall (the screen doesn't move)
-Take 3 steps left or right
-Go up until you hit another wall
-Take again three steps to the right or left (other side as before)
-Up

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I don't know how you could confuse the mountain full of dragons for anything but the dragon dungeon.

I remember solving that puzzle way before my family even had a computer. Let alone internet access.
It's not like I didn't look it up somewhere, though. Because that's pretty much the correct solution.

[Kim]

WHAT (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/31/)

Unfortunately Darren wasn't there for the whole thing, but... something went horribly horribly wrong and you all owe me some sort of explanation.

[Julford Hajime]

I'm not sure what I'm explaining for, but here's a shot.

You're using a US ROM, and all copies of the US game have glitches that screw up the game graphically but don't technically affect gameplay (Hey, you don't NEED to see the screen to play!). Anywho, it's why parts of equipment names stay if you equip something with a shorter name (For example, changing from Steel Sword to Aqua Whip would display Aqua Whiprd) and why certain rooms are all glitchy. Also, why the Gratze Kingdom got renamed the '3y kingdom. And a few other things like the level 0 glitch (DON'T DO IT), and broken items, and other things I forgot.

Why does it do this? I dunno. My understanding is that the original Jap game AND the European releases all work fine, and there are no graphical glitches like that. They just REALLY screwed something up when they ported the game to the US.

If it makes you feel any better, the physical cartridges are all like that, too. That's why I knew you'd need the help getting through the one room :P

ONE MORE THING! (Dammit I'm gonna have to change my avatar if I keep saying that): You haven't reached the ultra-super-special-awesome part yet. You haven't actually gotten Dual Blade :P

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Maybe you should've started the game with a European rom.
Mostly to pretend everyone speaks with a British accent. But also to WHAT THE FUCK!? THEY SOLD THIS GAME LIKE THAT IN THE US?

On the upside: The game's already heading towards the better. It'll probably be over soon. They can't throw in another filler dungeon, right? I played the game at least four or five times and I keep forgetting all the filler dungeons.

The ending is nothing I would've expected in an SNES game when I was a kid.

[Kim]

Okay, a bit longer episode. It's uploading now, and should be watchable in a few hours, but I thought I would post now because it's starting to look like either the next episode or the one after will be the final episode. As such, I have some questions.

Question One: How long is Doom Island?

Question Two: Is Doom Island the final dungeon?

Question Three: If the answer to question two is yes, do you guys want the next episode to be a marathon of Doom Island, finishing the rest of the game in a single sitting?

Also, any other ideas on stuff I should do for the final episode would be welcomed.

[Julford Hajime]

I'll have to see the episode first to know exactly how close you are (Or you can just say what the last couple things you did/saw were), but I can still answer your questions.

1. Doom Island is really short. There are no puzzles, no monsters roaming about, and the only off-beat paths lead to treasure chests with items like Miracles in them (Actually, I think they're the ONLY thing in the chests)

2. Yes.

3. This one depends on how close you actually are. There is a "Point of no return" before you even enter the island, and as I said it's rather short. If you're really REALLY close, then yeah, go for it. If you still haven't finished the three short (I said five minutes before, but hey hyperbole) dungeons between the tank and Doom Island, though... Aw fuck it go for it. There's really VERY little left.

[Kim]

I'm just beyond the point of no return, I think. I'm actually on the island, and just saw THE BEST THING EVER. We stopped recording the moment we were on the island.

EDIT: Actually, since this will be my first actually completed LP, and I seem to have gotten into a groove where I update regularly instead of once every two months, is there any game you guys would want me to do next? Anyone who suggests Pokemon dies horribly.

[Julford Hajime]

Haha yup, you did indeed see the best thing ever. "I've forgotten how to miss" is still my favorite quote from this game.

But yeah, you have maybe half an hour or so left at until you finish the game. Though the end credits are a good while (10-15 minutes), as well.

OH! One of the remaining fights in the game likes to spam instant-death spells on the entire party, and it has a good success rate, to boot. Unless you wanna re-do EVERYTHING you did before getting Dual Blade (The last save point is in the last tower), make sure you're putting those save states to good use.

EDIT: And make sure you equip Dual Blade, if the game doesn't do that for ya. It's easily Maxim's best weapon because it's IP skill lets him demolish EVERYTHING.

[Kim]

Lufia Z: Maxim Goes Super Sayan (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/32/)

Don't really know what more can be said.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

The game just got awesome.
Yay for final dungeon finally.


EDIT: Actually, since this will be my first actually completed LP, and I seem to have gotten into a groove where I update regularly instead of once every two months, is there any game you guys would want me to do next? Anyone who suggests Pokemon dies horribly. Not an RPG, at least not one that's as long as Lufia again, though doing it with a partner made it a lot more entertaining.

Demon's Crest for the SNES, may be worth considering. Recently, when I played Order of Ecclesia it sorta reminded me of that one. So maybe if you liked Order of Ecclesia (given you played it) you might enjoy this. Not sure if it's very let's playable (
There's no real plot to comment on in a witty and/or insightful way, and next to no character interaction, I think there's only one non-boss NPC outside of the shops, there's also a good chance to run into one of the non-true endings for first time players, and actually for everyone who doesn't go for 100%), but maybe you'd like to play it anyway If you haven't already. Because it's good. At least I say that. Also rather short compared to your average jRPG and modern Metroidvanias.

[Kim]

It's finally over! (http://www.viddler.com/explore/NonCon/videos/38/)

This is like my favorite episode. I wish every episode was like this one.

EDIT: But yeah, next LP is Megaman. Got a few episodes recorded already. Will probably start a thread later. It looks like Mirai gets Megaman 2 while I find better programs to do everything with.