PDA

View Full Version : Rock and Roll Hall of Fame accepts...ABBA!?


Tev
12-15-2009, 04:19 PM
Yeah, ‘cause they so totally rock.... :brow: (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b158122_abba_rocks_can_we_get_recount.html)

That sound you hear is rock 'n' roll purists smashing their vinyl collections against their heads now that ABBA has just been certified as a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame-approved act.

While KISS and Red Hot Chili Peppers fans will have to wait until next year, the Swedish foursome responsible for the decidedly unrocking "Dancing Queen," "Knowing Me, Knowing You," "Waterloo" and the Broadway musical-launching "Mamma Mia!" will be getting a pass to the Cleveland shrine.
…….
In an interview with Rolling Stone, Andersson said even he was shocked by their election.

"I didn't think this would happen, because we were a pop band, not a rock band," he said. "Being a foreigner from the North Pole, this feels really good."
But he put the odds at "99 to 1" that ABBA would show up.

"It's very tricky because Agnetha is not flying," said Andersson. "The people who are really fond of ABBA for what we did, I think we are doing them a favor by not going out."

There's also no word yet whether Peter Gabriel will rejoin Genesis mates Phil Collins, Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford.

Meanwhile, leading the list of nonperformers tapped for enshrinement is Geffen Records mogul David Geffen.

Per tradition, this year's crop of inductees were decided by over 500 voters of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. Artists are eligible for enshrinement 25 years after their first recording is released.
So just how long has the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame been a joke anyway? Even ABBA doesn't think ABBA belongs there.

Nightshine
12-15-2009, 04:36 PM
Yeah, ‘cause they so totally rock.... :brow: (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b158122_abba_rocks_can_we_get_recount.html)


So just how long has the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame been a joke anyway? Even ABBA doesn't think ABBA belongs there.

I said the same thing about Genesis being inducted:


It's not the Rock and "Roll Hall of Fame", it's the "These are the Bands We Like Institution"

Tev
12-15-2009, 04:43 PM
I said the same thing about Genesis being inducted:Wait, you mean this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_(band)) Genesis?

Genesis are an English rock band that formed in 1967. The band currently comprises the longest-tenured members Phil Collins (lead vocals and drums), Mike Rutherford (guitar and bass guitar), and Tony Banks (keyboards). Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett also played major roles in the band in its early days. Genesis are among the top 30 highest-selling recording artists of all time with approximately 150 million albums sold worldwide,[1] including 21.5 million albums sold in the United States.

Because that Genesis can be in a Hall of Fame for Rock and Roll bands that matter....

Lost in Time
12-15-2009, 05:11 PM
Hey, no one can turn down the powerful feelings generated by Fernando.

Nightshine
12-15-2009, 05:13 PM
Wait, you mean this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_(band)) Genesis?



Because that Genesis can be in a Hall of Fame for Rock and Roll bands that matter....

Yes, that Genesis. I have an incredible, passionate hatred for them.

Tev
12-15-2009, 05:15 PM
Would you mind going into that a little deeper? Just because I'm curious.

Osterbaum
12-15-2009, 05:16 PM
Nightshine: But that doesn't make them any less Rock 'n' Roll.

Green Spanner
12-15-2009, 05:29 PM
I said the same thing about Genesis being inducted:
It's not the Rock and "Roll Hall of Fame", it's the "These are the Bands We Like Institution"
Yes, that Genesis. I have an incredible, passionate hatred for them.So you want it to be a "These are the Bands Nightshine likes Institution" instead?

[EDIT] I should clarify that I am in no way in favour of ABBA's induction either.

Tev
12-15-2009, 05:31 PM
I mean I'd be accepting of ABBA in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame if ABBA were a Rock and Roll band. I wouldn't really like it, but I'd accept it.

Professor Smarmiarty
12-15-2009, 05:35 PM
Rock adn Roll hall of fame has pretty much always been about selling tickets to the induction dinner. It's pretty much their key metric.

Nightshine
12-15-2009, 06:53 PM
First off, I don't think that Genesis were significant in terms of rock and roll in any sense. They just sold well.

As well, Peter Gabriel's Genesis isn't the one being inducted. That was the tolerable form of Genesis. It's Phil Collins's Genesis which is getting the recognition.

Fifthfiend
12-15-2009, 07:08 PM
So just how long has the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame been a joke anyway?

Since the moment anyone ever imagined creating such a thing. The Rock & Roll "Hall of Fame"* is one of history's truly stupid ideas which has the small scrap of legitimacy it could hypothetically claim shredded by being located in Cleveland, Ohio, birthplace of such lauded rock legends as !!. Inducting ABBA is really no more or less idiotic than the existence of the thing itself.



*"Here we see Slash, proud owner of the world's record career length in guitar solos. And over here is the Grateful Dead, inducted for their victory in the 1973 Meandering Jerkoffery pennant race!"

POS Industries
12-15-2009, 07:24 PM
Yes, that Genesis. I have an incredible, passionate hatred for them.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/misato.jpg

Fifthfiend
12-15-2009, 07:38 PM
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/misato.jpg

You know, FFVII was fucking terrible.

Magus
12-15-2009, 07:41 PM
I'd really like to see some agreement within the group that makes these decisions that for any music after a certain date, the band needs to have some sort of overt focus on the (preferably electric) guitar to be a rock band. Feel free to point out bands that are considered rock bands despite not focusing on the guitar...I'd also push for some focus on a given definition of "heavy", but that's rather vague. I dunno, I know the genre is vaguely defined but jeez, if deaf Beethoven were somehow transported to the 21st century and given music to listen to, even he could delineate genres better than to put ABBA in with the same crowd as Ozzy Osbourne.

A Zarkin' Frood
12-16-2009, 12:47 PM
Let's make our own Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame and ABBA wont be in it.
But Deep Purple will be retroactively accepted inte the NPF Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame to make up for the time they aren't in that other Hall thing.

Magus
12-16-2009, 08:02 PM
Seriously, "Smoke on the Water" influences apparently everything after it comes out and Deep Purple isn't in there? Crazy.

ChaoticBroth
12-17-2009, 12:09 AM
Seriously, "Smoke on the Water" influences apparently everything after it comes out and Deep Purple isn't in there? Crazy.Not to mention, they made Highway Star (probably my favorite song 'cause of the solo) and Space Truckin'. If such a thing was legit, they'd need a lot more than an induction for how awesome their work was.

Nightshine
12-17-2009, 03:54 PM
Not to mention, they made Highway Star (probably my favorite song 'cause of the solo) and Space Truckin'. If such a thing was legit, they'd need a lot more than an induction for how awesome their work was.

Someone forgets Child in Time.


Also, Smoke on the Water is the worst song off of Machine Head.

ChaoticBroth
12-17-2009, 05:23 PM
Someone forgets Child in Time.


Also, Smoke on the Water is the worst song off of Machine Head.>.>

Yeah, I agree with your second point. It really isn't that great compared to other DP songs, IMHO.

POS Industries
12-17-2009, 10:54 PM
As well, Peter Gabriel's Genesis isn't the one being inducted. That was the tolerable form of Genesis. It's Phil Collins's Genesis which is getting the recognition.
Mike Rutherford wrote their best song, anyway.

Nightshine
12-18-2009, 04:00 PM
Mike Rutherford wrote their best song, anyway.

He wrote Supper's Ready?

A Zarkin' Frood
12-18-2009, 04:44 PM
I personally like April most.
with Child in time being a very close second.

Smoke on the water is meh.

Nightshine
12-18-2009, 05:30 PM
I personally like April most.
with Child in time being a very close second.

Smoke on the water is meh.

Damn, how did I forget about April?

POS Industries
12-18-2009, 10:51 PM
He wrote Supper's Ready?
That's a pretty good song, too.

You know, once you get eleven minutes into it.

Magus
12-19-2009, 11:01 PM
Everybody's heard "Smoke On The Water", is what I mean. Several times.

I have never really heard an ABBA song until I looked up "Dancing Queen" holy shit that wasn't rock music.

That's what I'm sayin', I'm not particularly a fan of Deep Purple but they influenced a lot of other bands.

Professor Smarmiarty
12-21-2009, 04:45 AM
I know this is a hard decision for you guys to accept but I'm going to tell you a little story. It might not sway you, it might not convince you, but maybe, just maybe, it'll let you down a bit easier- put a spring in your step even if its a rusty one.
A long time ago, when I was a wee lad finding his way in the world- figuring out girls and causing trouble with boys- I was at a point in my life- lost- both figuratively and literally- adrift, stuck on an island after my kayak got damaged on a floating rock, a rock of despair you may say.
A boat came to rescue, a boat blasting- as it were- the lyrical tones of Fernando. Forever my fate would be tied up with that fateful son gthat rescued me from my lump of rock and if that is not fame, my friends, I do not know what is.
As for the rock, we rocked it hard that day on that rock, we rocked it hard indeed.

Chipper173
12-27-2009, 05:48 PM
Best Machine Head song is Pictures of Home, quote this if ya'll down.

Nique
01-22-2010, 01:33 AM
Oh my God how did I miss this thread?! I don't know if ABBA should be in the Rock N' Roll hall of fame but there's a lot of mofos who don't belong in the Rock N' Roll hall of fame and ABBA deserves to be in the hall of fame of something. If there was a hall of fame of music I sing along to at inappropriate times they would go there.