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Nique
01-02-2010, 08:16 PM
Daybreakers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreakers) should be a nice break from Twilight but seriously this Zombie and Vampire thing has got to stop.

On the other hand, Alan Grant as a vampire? Yes please.

Premmy
01-03-2010, 01:49 AM
I don't know, seems like it might be a cool movie.

I agee though, vampires and zombies need to fall out.
We have'nt had a good string of giant monster movies since godzilla took his hiatus, is that ten years up yet? I wanna see buildings get smashed.

Or at least more kung-fu flicks.

Magus
01-03-2010, 02:21 AM
Wait a second, we're all tired of vampires, zombies, and werewolves, and vampires vs. werewolves, too.

So obviously the next movie should be vampires vs. zombies. And maybe with like a werewolf for good measure.

Aren't there any other mythological creatures to stick in a movie? Banshees? Manticores?

Mirai Gen
01-03-2010, 02:25 AM
Aren't there any other mythological creatures to stick in a movie?
Mummies.

Aerozord
01-03-2010, 02:31 AM
I want to see a modern take on Frankensteins monster. Lets get some flesh golems in media

TIME BOMB
01-03-2010, 02:32 AM
i think that the time is ripe for the creature from the black lagoon to take back his place as the raddest movie monster ever.

Magus
01-03-2010, 02:34 AM
Unfortunately, the "modern" take on Frankenstein was Van Helsing, an extremely bad film, like many modern films. They could remake The Golem, though, that would be sweet, probably, maybe, if they didn't screw it up, which they probably would.

Premmy
01-03-2010, 02:50 AM
Bigfoot, ya'll.

Aerozord
01-03-2010, 04:49 AM
Mummies.

they did that already, and it was actually pretty good. but its time has passed, though maybe like zombies it will cycle.

and keep in mind I am talking about good takes on things.

Really I'd like something completely new, well relatively atleast.

Seil
01-03-2010, 04:55 AM
Hey, Van Helsing did have a kick ass werewolf, and their dracula wasn't too bad, either.

That being said, lets revisit Dragonheart. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSYThEfy9PU)

Mirai Gen
01-03-2010, 05:49 AM
Hey, Van Helsing did have a kick ass werewolf, and their dracula wasn't too bad, either.
Van Helsing was a movie I went in hoping I could just change the name to Belmont and get a Castlevania movie.

Then the repeating crossbow showed up, and I left.

Seil
01-03-2010, 06:11 AM
The werewolves were true to canon, and Dracula was an eternally youthful Transylvanian with beautiful brides and an aversion to sunlight. Yes, it wasn't the greatest movie of its time, but at least Dracula never glittered.

Also, sounds like you went in expecting a video game movie about a white haired protagonist brandishing a flaming whip rather than a summer blockbuster made up from a 19th century story cobbled together from a mish-mash of myths, legends and stories staring Wolverine von Metalclaws and the guy from 300.

Mirai Gen
01-03-2010, 06:19 AM
The werewolves were true to canon, and Dracula was an eternally youthful Transylvanian with beautiful brides and an aversion to sunlight. Yes, it wasn't the greatest movie of its time, but at least Dracula never glittered.

Also, sounds like you went in expecting a video game movie about a white haired protagonist brandishing a flaming whip rather than a summer blockbuster made up from a 19th century story cobbled together from a mish-mash of myths, legends and stories staring Wolverine von Metalclaws and the guy from 300.

Assault rifle crossbow.

Seil
01-03-2010, 06:33 AM
It also had a sunlight bomb and a switchblade cross.But the music is great. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oC_CLSev2A&feature=related)

Also, theology seems a popular theme nowadays, what with Legion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8lGCjd9W8U) and all.

Premmy
01-03-2010, 06:42 AM
Why are you guys trying to make me go watch Van Helsing again?

Seil
01-03-2010, 06:52 AM
All crossbows aside, I'm tentatively looking forward to Daybreakers. Any time they mix mytholgy with SCIENCE!, it'll either be terrible or rentable.

Krylo
01-03-2010, 06:55 AM
Van Helsing was a movie I went in hoping I could just change the name to Belmont and get a Castlevania movie.

Then the repeating crossbow showed up, and I left.

Not as far-fetched as you seem to think. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeating_crossbow)

Granted I never saw the movie, as I'm not big on popcorn flicks, so maybe it was considerably more ridiculous than the ancient Chinese having chain driven repeating crossbows or the ancient Greeks having a ballista which fired automatically every 1.4 seconds until it ran out of ammo so long as someone turned a crank. I wouldn't know. Kinda doubt it, though.

Premmy
01-03-2010, 06:59 AM
The case was underneath and it looked like a tommy gun drum, It also looked like it weighed as much as fat child.

EVILNess
01-03-2010, 07:01 AM
I'm kinda looking forward to the Wolfman movie that's gonna come out here in a bit. I hope it will be a nice change of pace.

Seil
01-03-2010, 07:10 AM
Eugh. Werewolves are my favourite mythological beast, and most movies can't do a good transformation scene. Skinwalkers and Blood And Chocolate particularly had this problem.

Bells
01-03-2010, 10:34 AM
I don't know, seems like it might be a cool movie.

I agee though, vampires and zombies need to fall out.
We have'nt had a good string of giant monster movies since godzilla took his hiatus, is that ten years up yet? I wanna see buildings get smashed.

Or at least more kung-fu flicks.

Cloverfield says you're wrooooooooooooooooong also RAWR because he is a monster.

Mirai Gen
01-03-2010, 02:25 PM
Granted I never saw the movie, as I'm not big on popcorn flicks, so maybe it was considerably more ridiculous than the ancient Chinese having chain driven repeating crossbows or the ancient Greeks having a ballista which fired automatically every 1.4 seconds until it ran out of ammo so long as someone turned a crank. I wouldn't know. Kinda doubt it, though.

The case was underneath and it looked like a tommy gun drum, It also looked like it weighed as much as fat child.

This, yeah.

I mean I play DND too, I know repeating crossbows aren't exactly new, but in the movie he basically points at them, pulls the trigger, and the gun spits out crossbow bolts about the speed of an assault rifle, which is impossible on numerous levels even aside from the rotating blades and whatnot.

I know they said it's gas powered but still.

Tev
01-03-2010, 02:51 PM
We're getting Clash of the Titans and The Lightning Thief soon. Looks like we're moving into Greek/Roman monsters now.

TIME BOMB
01-03-2010, 02:58 PM
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=16986418
sweetest werewolf video ever haha.

and yeah, hollywood vampires are getting way old, but daybreakers looks like a potentially cool change of pace though.

Nique
01-03-2010, 05:03 PM
We're getting Clash of the Titans and The Lightning Thief soon. Looks like we're moving into Greek/Roman monsters now.

Percy Jackson and the terribly named movie? Also I think Clash of the Titans looks like it could end up being pretty bad.

Tev
01-03-2010, 05:13 PM
The Lightning Thief was a pretty solid book and from what I've seen of the previews, it should end up being a much more serious look at kids with god-powers (unlike say....Sky High?).

All the stuff I've seen about the new Clash remake looks pretty nice. The Kraken looks decidedly monstrous and Kraken-y, the Medusa looks good, there are giant scorpions which confuses me a little, and I know I saw those three witches that share an eyeball in the preview. All in all I expect it to be a pretty fun romp in action land for about two hours.

Mike McC
01-03-2010, 06:07 PM
Eugh. Werewolves are my favourite mythological beast, and most movies can't do a good transformation scene. Skinwalkers and Blood And Chocolate particularly had this problem.Yeah, but they brought in Rick Baker for The Wolfman. So, that's a huge boost in it's favor.

Shyria Dracnoir
01-03-2010, 06:12 PM
i think that the time is ripe for the creature from the black lagoon to take back his place as the raddest movie monster ever.

That being said, lets revisit Dragonheart. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSYThEfy9PU)

I second the both of these. What can I say, I have a soft spot for things of the scaly persuasion. On a different (hopefully less perverse sounding note), hasn't there been talks for a Creature of the Black Lagoon reboot for a few years now? I think I saw it first on TvTropes regarding Development Hell and the new Wolfman trailers got me thinking about it again.

Mirai Gen
01-04-2010, 01:56 AM
Percy Jackson and the terribly named movie?
I was half expecting them to throw in an "Episode I" or "Book I" when I saw that title.

Having said thus Lightning Thief does look pretty fun.

The Sevenshot Kid
01-04-2010, 10:57 PM
I'm a huge mythology nut so I'm actually looking forward to The Lightning Thief and Clash of the Titans which looks like a solid movie compared to that horrible movie its remaking.

What Hollywood needs to do is mix-n-match some genres so we can get something like the Dresden Files or Dark Tower.

Magus
01-04-2010, 11:50 PM
They actually are supposedly going to do The Dark Tower one of these days, if J.J. Abrams ever quits making Star Trek movies...he directed that one, right?

Something like it would be cool, though, even if it was just a western with werewolves or something. The closest they've come to that seems to be Tremors 4, which was unbearable.

The Sevenshot Kid
01-05-2010, 01:13 AM
Abrams dropped out... That killed all my hopes of it turning out right. If Fox ever gets around to making Cowboy Bebop (ugh) they'll have a hard time with handeling the tone and which genre to focus on and they'll almost certainly not synch up any gunfights with the music or anything cool.

And what the hell happened to the Preacher adaptation? That comic was a prime example on how to splice genres.

I've digressed....

Magus
01-05-2010, 01:43 AM
I'm pretty sure the question of there being anything possibly good that could have come out of Cowboy Bebop the Live-Action film started with Keanu Reeves and ended with it being a live-action take on a beloved Japanese anime by FOX and the resounding answer was "NO", echoing throughout the universe.

Aerozord
01-05-2010, 03:51 PM
Bebop movie could be done, but only if they got an excellent director that understood what made it great. I do not think there is a director in hollywood that qualifies.

anywho, what I really want to see is some more original stuff. Clash of the Titans is not only a remake, but the original itself was even based on something. I refuse to believe there just aren't any new ideas anymore. If I can come up with stuff proffesional writers should be able to

Sithdarth
01-05-2010, 04:01 PM
The problem with originality is that we've got such a volume of work now that anything you do is going to have some kind of similarity to something someone else did. People are going to make comparisons between what ever you do and another person's work even if the comparisons are unwarranted. This doesn't excuse the laziness of Hollywood but it does mean if you're looking for something truly original anywhere its not really going to happen. At best you're going to get something that seems original to you.

Magus
01-05-2010, 08:02 PM
That's been true since Shakespeare's day, though. What makes a work original is how you combine the various elements together. There's no way to create an original element at this point (or very very rarely), but if you combine together different plot elements together in a novel way and combine it with good characterization and so forth people usually appreciate it as "original".

Like we've had movies about vampires. And quite frankly we've had movies about vampire blood banks, there was one in Blade. So this movie is not very original.

If someone wants to make an original vampire movie, they would do something interesting, like making a movie where vampires fight in nightmare mechs that are fueled by blood. I'd buy that for a dollar!

Aerozord
01-05-2010, 08:34 PM
I am not saying something with no referance to anything. Forget shakespear that hasn't ever happened. You cant just pull something from nothing, even Dracula had several source materials.

What I want is something that isn't a copy. Movies are all based on books, games, or even flat out remakes of old movies. They are making movies based on Monopoly and Battleship. Cant we have something that isn't a sure thing for once. Thats the whole reason I'm willing to put up with watching movies I already know the entire plot of before seeing the first trailer

The Sevenshot Kid
01-05-2010, 09:13 PM
The problem with a lot of original ideas is that they tend to be rather stupid.

Aerozord
01-05-2010, 09:18 PM
original ideas that they come up with now, or you mean ever. Because otherwise you are saying movies like original Matrix, Star Wars, Ghostbusters, are stupid

Loyal
01-05-2010, 09:20 PM
If someone wants to make an original vampire movie, they would do something interesting, like making a movie where vampires fight in nightmare mechs that are fueled by blood. I'd buy that for a dollar!And just because of that, Arnie would be the star.

Magus
01-05-2010, 09:41 PM
Did I mention the mechs themselves feed on the blood of the enemy mechs to increase their power, possessing big drill-fangs in their mech-heads?

Not sure why this hasn't already been made into an anime.

Oh, and it's basically sort of like Highlander but darker. Vampires have already destroyed all organic life that exists that uses blood as it's circulatory system. The only blood that remains is that which powers other vampires bio-mechs. The vampires themselves receive their blood directly intravenously from their mechs, but this blood will be used up over time if the vampire doesn't kill other vampires by attacking their mechs and sucking all the blood from them. Eventually all vampires will die--the victor will only survive a short time longer than the others, leaving the world a depopulated forest and grassland, devoid of sentient life, mammals, and birds.

EDIT: I think a lot of original movie ideas they come out with now do either suck or else no one watches them despite their inherent awesomeness and so it's less risky to bank on a remake or basically a retelling of a popular movie because you're almost guaranteed the same amount of profit as the original movie made.

This doesn't always work out. Like if whoever made it had pointed out that The Brave One was basically a by-the-numbers Death Wish remake I bet it would've done a lot better than it did (which I don't think was that well), because Death Wish has become popular throughout the years. And then Ultraviolet seemed to be an attempt to make something sort of like Blade and an anime crossed together or something but the resulting film was horrible. So when something which theoretically can't fail does then studios are even more wary of "new" properties.

The Wandering God
01-15-2010, 08:28 AM
Caught this last night.

Basically, this review (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/1368-Daybreakers) is pretty spot on. It's a fun 90+ minute ride that features a world run by bloodsucking vampires who aren't entirely different from regular people. It's funny and BLOODY.

The biggest negative thing I can say about it is that it relies just a bit too much on jump scares. Then again, maybe that's intentional. In a lot of ways, this feels like a very old school vampire movie that just happens to take place in the future.

Kerensky287
01-15-2010, 05:39 PM
Overall positive review

I'm gonna have to disagree pretty hard that this was a good movie. I mean, I LOVE the concept. But it felt like a completely different person wrote the script from who thought it up. Like, the opening there, where they show all the vampires living their normal lives with very slight vampire-directed modifications? That was excellent. They put a lot of thought into it.

Then it was like, VAMPIRE SOLDIERS WITH TRANQUILIZER GUNS STRONG ENOUGH TO SHOOT THROUGH A CAR'S REAR WINDSHIELD AND GO OUT THE FRONT and HUMAN RESISTANCE FIGHTERS WITH STAKE-LAUNCHING CROSSBOWS THAT MAKE VAMPIRES EXPLODE IF YOU HIT THEM IN THE CHEST. Plus, not to spoil anything, but too many people survived having their fucking carotid arteries ripped open. I mean, in one scene, this guy's been bitten in the neck, and all the clothing on his ENTIRE LEFT SIDE has gotten stained with his own blood, and then he just kinda walks it off.

There are also nitpicky things like how the directors have NO idea what fucking camouflage is appropriate (if your army operates mainly at night, you use black camo, NOT FUCKING DESERT CAMO ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CITY).

But the major issue I had with it was the cure for vampirism. They never really stated WHY being a vampire was a bad thing, aside from "oh they're scary monsters if they don't get blood". Once the blood substitute was sent out there, there was literally NO reason why vampires were evil at all. Plus, the way the cure worked - controlled exposure to sunlight - seems like something that they'd have discovered by accident beforehand.

So it COULD have been good but they fucked up the execution too hard.

Archbio
01-15-2010, 06:04 PM
What I heard about this movie makes it seem like its basic concept is not unlike the concept that was rejected for Blade III (because it was too good.)