View Full Version : #1223 "Carry the infinity..."
Kurosen
03-09-2010, 10:58 AM
Hey, it works for politicians! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2010/03/09/episode-1223-make-the-truth/)
Dr. Casey
03-09-2010, 11:02 AM
Final battle: Light Warriors vs. White Warriors?
I wouldn't piss off a group of people that just defeated Chaos as easily as though he was some Cornerian imps, Black Mage.
Meister
03-09-2010, 11:03 AM
Exactly what I was thinking, but the Light Warriors have a long-standing tradition of talking themselves into situations they aren't equipped to handle.
Sliths
03-09-2010, 11:08 AM
One has to wonder why WM was so damn secretive about her recruitment plan in the first place. Couldn't she have been like, "Hey, you four. You fail. I'm replacing you, so you can all go home now."
Oh wait, Sarda.
And BM killing her.
Well I guess this is a useless reply.
Maybe I shouldn't even hit the submit button.
Someone's about to get a giant blue hammer to the crotch.
Dauntasa
03-09-2010, 11:42 AM
And now White Mage finally snaps and kills someone. Probably BM.
pohatufan1
03-09-2010, 11:55 AM
If White Mage decides to unload a can of whoopass on these guys, I hope she at least remembers that Red Mage kinda sorta saved her life back there when Black Mage was in his heyday.
And that Fighter is a helper.
And... that Thief... is really, really good-looking.
Si Civa
03-09-2010, 11:56 AM
It's like the total opposite of the game's ending when nobody remembers what the heroes did.
No, not total opposite but twisted version, yeees.
Super King
03-09-2010, 12:09 PM
I very much doubt they are going to fight. At most, BM is gonna get a hammer to the face.
Domestibot
03-09-2010, 12:22 PM
If White Mage decides to unload a can of whoopass on these guys, I hope she at least remembers that Red Mage kinda sorta saved her life back there when Black Mage was in his heyday.
I agree that, in a way, Red Mage inadvertently saved the day by bringing White Mage back from the brink of death, but I kind of doubt she remembers it. She seemed somewhat dead, unconscious, or both.
But hey, even if the White Warriors are the true heroes here, I'd be uncomfortable with them taking all the credit. If it weren't for the Light Warriors being true to form as the typical harbingers of doom that they are, Chaos wouldn't have been manifested into the world in the first place. For real.
The WW should really give the other team a fruit basket or something for making the lifelong ambition of their order finally achievable.
Grognor
03-09-2010, 12:27 PM
It's like the total opposite of the game's ending when nobody remembers what the heroes did.
It passed down into legend: http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5183/end13.gif
About the comic:
"Who gets the credit is irrelevant to the deed."
~ One of 8-Bit Theater's true real men.
Well, the quote went something like that anyway.
Gamer8585
03-09-2010, 12:31 PM
Looks like someone forgot to install the "Paradox absorbing crumple zones" before he left the formless pleroma....
Anyway, history is written by the victors. Or at least those that can claim victory, and shut up anyone else that argues.
Facts are inconsequential to PR.
Green Spanner
03-09-2010, 12:55 PM
Wow...it's like White Mage still hasn't grasped who she's talking to...
32bit-RedMage
03-09-2010, 01:28 PM
What's White mage complaining about ?!
Black Mage's "secret" gratitude is like the holy grail of all super secret treasures!
GrandMasterPlanetEater
03-09-2010, 01:47 PM
Good show!
Edit: Huh. I wonder if they've got enough white magic left to zap down a group of great evil.
A Zarkin' Frood
03-09-2010, 02:08 PM
Does that include Fighter?
GrandMasterPlanetEater
03-09-2010, 02:15 PM
Of course not. Fighter isn't evil. He's a casual bystander. Therefore he'd be a casualty. Just ask Sarda.
Santos.
03-09-2010, 02:37 PM
White Mage knows Red Mage is irreparably self-centered, but can be useful for the common good on occasion (despite him trying to become God apparently)
At the very least she knows SOMEONE had to bring her back to life and the only one capable of that was Red Mage.
Fighter is harmless, except for evil guys, then he's a living chainsaw of doom.
The other two can suck it.
Kyanbu The Legend
03-09-2010, 02:40 PM
Does that include Fighter?
He's a force of Nature in my book. No sense in curb stomping him.
Domestibot
03-09-2010, 02:49 PM
It might also be worth mentioning that White Mage was one of the only characters (the other being maybe Fighter) to never to truly find out what a jackass Sarda was, or what his true intentions really were. She most likely still believes him to be a "guiding force of light," or whatever she said he was earlier.
this being the case, it stands to reason she thinks the Light Warriors sacrificed him to chaos or something, hence she'd have a pretty good reason to STOP!
:wmage:Hammer time!
TimeSpaceMage
03-09-2010, 03:00 PM
Speaking of hammers, I wonder how much of a level advantage WM has right now... considering she beat him within an inch of his life (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2001/05/23/episode-033-amongst-our-weaponry-are-such-diverse-elements-as/) back at the beginning of the comic, when he wasn't de-leveled.
Santos.
03-09-2010, 03:55 PM
She could, technically, erase him from existence in one swift blow.
tshadowdrag
03-09-2010, 04:11 PM
Depends how much of that white magic it took them to use, maybe all's that left she can do is use the hammer.
Final battle: Light Warriors vs. White Warriors?
I wouldn't piss off a group of people that just defeated Chaos as easily as though he was some Cornerian imps, Black Mage.
But they pretty much just used an uber-heal on him. If Black Mage was still super evil, it might be effective on him.
I guess White Mage still has her hammer, which would prove to be deadly, as it has in the past.
Ludge
03-09-2010, 05:57 PM
I feel like we're going to get a long rant from white mage in the next comic.
timemonkey
03-09-2010, 06:06 PM
Mybe Fighter will point out that it was a group effort. The Light warriors killed the fiends, gathered the orbs, empowered Sara and manifested Chaos and the White Warriors killed Chaos. Neither side would could have won without the other in the end.
Aldurin
03-09-2010, 06:17 PM
WM can't hammer Black Mage to death, he'll just become hellmage again.
To scientifically prove this:
BM deleveling only affected his physical attributes (HP ST DX), including his body's ability to withhold mana (MP). He would be free to channel the energy of the universe (or hell) and wreak havoc if he wasn't restricted by his inferior body.
If the Fiends are in hell, they probably don't exceed the power of the previous ruler (before BM) and even if they did, Black Mage would just take a little longer (or channel his impatience into more energy.)
Even if the deleveling removed his spells, he still gets an amazing stabbing ability when he has that kind of power.
Raphaël Lafarge
03-09-2010, 06:47 PM
Truly, that was the best battle of the Light Warriors. Gods bless you, heroes, you will never be forgotten for all beautiful things you did.
tshadowdrag
03-09-2010, 07:10 PM
Mybe Fighter will point out that it was a group effort. The Light warriors killed the fiends, gathered the orbs, empowered Sara and manifested Chaos and the White Warriors killed Chaos. Neither side would could have won without the other in the end.
Also BM's "best" proposal to White Mage, it also involves pie.
GrandMasterPlanetEater
03-09-2010, 09:18 PM
If the Fiends are in hell, they probably don't exceed the power of the previous ruler (before BM) and even if they did, Black Mage would just take a little longer (or channel his impatience into more energy.)
I don't think they are. They were sucked up by Black Mage, who's power was taken by Sarda, who was then enveloped by Chaos, who was turned to pure dust.
My guess is that they're hanging out inside Herman's Head (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman's_Head) now.
joshedis
03-09-2010, 09:36 PM
Haha! That was bloody brilliant!
However, where will the story go now? Oh! I know! Optional dungeons ftw!
Scars Unseen
03-09-2010, 10:35 PM
Brian should just post a thousand episode long staring contest between the Light and White Warriors to placate/mock the people complaining about the comic ending soon.
mad2physicist
03-09-2010, 10:43 PM
I disagree with White Mage's interpretation of entropy/order. If I were Chaos, I would have gotten into quite the long philosophical debate about this with the White Light Warriors.
See entropy is roughly speaking a measure of disorder, but in fact it is more like a measure of how 'standard' your state is. Like if you have a gaseous substance in a box, having all that substance in one corner is highly non-generic. Generically, the gas should be equally distributed. But this isn't ordered, because you get the same result (uniform distribution) under lots of different configurations of particles...
Of course, one could say this IS ordered in the information-theoretic sense. So the real question is, is Chaos seeking physics-type chaos, or information-type chaos?
Scars Unseen
03-09-2010, 11:34 PM
I think that towards the end he was seeking a pastry-type chaos. You know, like a haggis-colada filled doughnut.
Roxas
03-10-2010, 01:17 AM
Red Mage or Thief, would either kindly choke a bitch for us all?
justice~!
03-10-2010, 01:17 AM
Mybe Fighter will point out that it was a group effort. The Light warriors killed the fiends, gathered the orbs, empowered Sara and manifested Chaos and the White Warriors killed Chaos. Neither side would could have won without the other in the end.
True, though I can't imagine something like that making into this comic. =)
Martyr
03-10-2010, 01:51 AM
The only reason WM gets like this is because she loves BM very very much.
She's like a closet homosexual who hasn't discovered the truth about his purposed lifestyle.
WM is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, an evil from beyond the dawn of time. Whatever sadistic urges she has, she supreses, and it seems that only BM knows the right buttons to push. Buttons that tap into the soul that she has hidden, buried deep deep deep under those white robes of hers.
Even if BM never beds her, he is slowly disrobing her, metaphorically, and therein will be the true evil foe to plague the world of 8-bit.
I only wonder how the paradox of the love of two beings who are designed from raw evil will affect the story.
Meister
03-10-2010, 03:27 AM
The Light warriors killed the fiends, gathered the orbs, empowered Sara and manifested Chaos and the White Warriors killed Chaos.
I dunno, the White Warriors might have been okay with a scenario where Chaos never manifests and also no four maniacs ever cut a path of destruction and terror across the world.
Mirai Gen
03-10-2010, 04:27 AM
I'm enjoying the plot twist but...the way White Mage is talking to BM is looking really...offputting.
Like, as though they just met for the first time. Which given who we're talking about - and what happened in the tower, too - is a little odd.
White Mage attacks Black Mage. This act of violence is chaotic. Chaos is reborn from the conflict between the two and the 8-Bit Universe becomes a cake singularity.
The End.
Team White Mage should have seen this coming.
Why do I have a feeling that the next comic will start with a panel hinting that White Mage is beating up BM with her hammer off-screen? Maybe it's that awesomly furious look in her eyes? (Which we, by the way, haven't seen in a long time now)
Aldurin
03-10-2010, 11:00 AM
White Mage attacks Black Mage. This act of violence is chaotic. Chaos is reborn from the conflict between the two and the 8-Bit Universe becomes a cake singularity.
The End.
Chaos is obviously the kid that results from WM and BM's marriage.
tshadowdrag
03-10-2010, 09:51 PM
Team White Mage should have seen this coming.
Why do I have a feeling that the next comic will start with a panel hinting that White Mage is beating up BM with her hammer off-screen? Maybe it's that awesomly furious look in her eyes? (Which we, by the way, haven't seen in a long time now)
Only whenever BM says anything around her
timemonkey
03-11-2010, 07:13 AM
I dunno, the White Warriors might have been okay with a scenario where Chaos never manifests and also no four maniacs ever cut a path of destruction and terror across the world.
Perhaps, but getting to Chaos was the ultimate goal of White Mage from the begining. And as for the path of destruction it's arguably an acceptable loss. With the Four Fiends, Sarda and Chaos all gone (plus the Light Warriors deleveled to helplessness) the world is now a much, MUCH better place.
Of course now that Doom Cult will probably finally be succesful and summon forth something to end the world. They were on the Light Warrior's list of things to deal with after Chaos was gone.
Grognor
03-11-2010, 08:57 AM
You know, White Mage did cause the entire plot of this story to happen. Her first act was causing Black Mage to actually want to form a group of four that she would be in.
Then she forced the Light Warriors to encounter Sarda, which really formed most of the comic's story.
Then she killed the final boss after it manifested.
also she began the universe
timemonkey
03-11-2010, 10:56 PM
You know, White Mage did cause the entire plot of this story to happen. Her first act was causing Black Mage to actually want to form a group of four that she would be in.
Then she forced the Light Warriors to encounter Sarda, which really formed most of the comic's story.
Then she killed the final boss after it manifested.
also she began the universe
The Lght Warriors would have been fomed even without her. Black Mage said if Fighter coul find two other idiots willing to go on the quest they'd do it. Fighter found Thief and then Red Mage forced himself into the group, forcing White Mage out.
Kinda funny that BM was so certain that Fighter wouldn't be able to find two people and they ended up with three, plus Black Belt who was late.
Hetsurin
03-12-2010, 02:05 AM
...probably a good idea not to piss off the God-killing mother of the universe.
Chaos is obviously the kid that results from WM and BM's marriage.
But Chaos existed.
Green Spanner
03-12-2010, 04:11 AM
But Chaos existed.
Or did he?
Dun dun dunnnn!
Aldurin
03-12-2010, 10:29 AM
But Chaos existed.
But maybe Chaos went back in time like Sarda did but Sarda accidentally became the exit point for Chaos. But maybe it was actually Chaos's doppleganger they fought (and don't assume the Castle of Ordeals has an organized schedule) who was waiting for the real Chaos to appear.
But what it really must be is that under BM's hat is Chaos. Or his heir or something. But BM was more of an alternate shell for Chaos's soul to reincarnate into in the event of death.
But maybe Chaos went back in time like Sarda did but Sarda accidentally became the exit point for Chaos. But maybe it was actually Chaos's doppleganger they fought (and don't assume the Castle of Ordeals has an organized schedule) who was waiting for the real Chaos to appear.
But what it really must be is that under BM's hat is Chaos. Or his heir or something. But BM was more of an alternate shell for Chaos's soul to reincarnate into in the event of death.
...
I would make a Neon Genesis Evangelion Reference now, but it's not funny anymore the third time around. Darn. So instead, I will link you to TV-tropes. HA!! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory)
Corrderio
03-12-2010, 04:13 PM
Surprised Red Mage didn't try to use a logical paradox on Chaos like White Mage did.
timemonkey
03-13-2010, 10:31 AM
Surprised Red Mage didn't try to use a logical paradox on Chaos like White Mage did.
The last few times he tried that it backfired. He got lucky once with the dinosaur but only because the dinosaur did most of the work for him.
randomhuman
03-13-2010, 08:42 PM
He got lucky once with the dinosaur but only because the dinosaur did most of the work for him.
which eppisode was that?
timemonkey
03-13-2010, 11:54 PM
which eppisode was that?
Hell if I know, but it was in the castle of ordeals, shortly before he encountered his trial.
Nuklear Waste
03-19-2010, 10:49 PM
Just read the new comic early...I would not mind if that is indeed the final episode. :D :D :D
BattyAsHell
03-19-2010, 10:58 PM
And now White Mage finally snaps and kills someone. Probably BM.
And than goes on to become the biggest monster of all.
Kind of the same concept as "The Killing Joke" when Joker paralyzed Jim Gordon's daughter just to prove to Batman that everyone's one bad day from becoming like him.
tshadowdrag
03-19-2010, 11:09 PM
Just read the new comic early...I would not mind if that is indeed the final episode. :D :D :D
I'd say one more than that would make 8 bit come full circle, but that is pretty close.
ERROR
03-22-2010, 03:18 PM
Just read the new comic early...I would not mind if that is indeed the final episode. :D :D :D
Me, either.
Aldurin
03-22-2010, 05:12 PM
:shifty:
Make thread die, new one available.
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