Pokémon Umbral Discussion 9: More Than Double the Number of RP Threads!

[Astral Harmony]

I feel like I rushed it a little bit since Umbral Awakening was engaged and then Phantomere died in the same turn. But I think that battle dragged on more than long enough, wouldn't you agree? Plenty of other Ruin Generals and antics awaiting us.

So relax and chill. And then we'll strengthen our numbers, pass out the upgrades, and head off to Renny's house for fun, drink, food, games, PvP, romance, and assassins. Good times all around!

EDIT: To celebrate your victory against your first Ruin General, I present this!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OmaYwjFt4dw/SWe9D-Kzn8I/AAAAAAAAAEk/38AxMqiudXk/s400/Gardevoir

This is what Renny saw when he came home and found Gardevoir and Lopunny from Pokégeddon in his room. Then he was rendered unconscious by an out-of-control nosebleed and missed the most awesome opportunity ever.

Honestly, there may not be a Pokémon picture sexier than this. I'm certainly not going to hold my breath on finding one.

I want to find one for Pierce, but I can't seem to find a male Blaziken and Tyranitar posing sexy. Nor would I ever want to.

[Geminex]

Niiiice. Both the pic and the post itself. I'll need to re-read the post again, to make sure I didn't miss anything, but it looks pretty awesome at face value. Though I would have preferred it if Phantomere had survived for one more round. I was planning to have a stamina-boosted Impact rush at him, shouting "I am tired of the motherfucking ghosts in this motherfucking mansion!" before landing the final blow. Oh well.

What's the plot of Renny's mission gonna be? I can't find in in the thread.

That's probably not the sexiest pic there is, but it's pretty close, and it's actually SFW. So, yeah, it's awesome. How'd you find it?

Oh, and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2k-sXRYWsY

[Dracorion]

You won't find it in the threads because Menarker and AB have been plotting our demises over PMs.

Now would be the time to flee for your pathetic life.

[Geminex]

Indeed. In that case, could be get some details of what's expecting us? I wouldn't ask, but Drac and me have been discussing what'll probably be happening publicly, so 'tmight be fair if we got a vague idea of what'll go down, yes?

[Dracorion]

Pff. Speak for yourself. The intimate details of Pierce's sidequest are for AB's and my eyes only.

Just count yourself lucky I haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm waiting for something in particular.

[Geminex]

Ah? Allright then, if that's the way you want it. To PM it is. Though I would advise you, I have the netherworld to work with. You, on the other hand, have an illegal pokebrid lab.

Of course, my problem is that while we vaguely know the setting and outcome of each others' quests, we know nothing about Renny's. This must be *sunglasses* renn-idied.
YEAH.

And anyway, why would they be discussing "intimate details" anyway? The entire idea of the sidequests is that we'd get something focused on our character, but it'd still be a standard mission, AB-controlled, which we'd know no more about than any of the other characters.

Or at least that's what I envisioned...

I am going to resist reminding you who suggested this in the first place. What I am going to do is make a mental note to trademark the phrase MY IDEA (TM).

[Dracorion]

You do that.

But anyway, my guess is that Renny's family's Snorlax got kidnapped and we have to find it.

[Geminex]

"PvP, Romance and Assassins".
...

The last things I would associate with Snorlax are "PvP, Romance and Assassins". Maybe PvP. But not much else.

[Dracorion]

Renny's the son of a mob boss?

And he falls for the daughter of an enemy mob boss who is also supposed to kill him!

[Geminex]

he falls for the daughter of an enemy mob boss
Oh, I get it. Snorlax.

[Dracorion]

You do realize Charlotte is going to hate Impact for getting to the trophy first, right?

Especially considering Impact didn't land a killing blow and Charlotte did.

[Geminex]

I don't even know what I'm doing. I might get possessed. Wouldn't that be fun?
Really, the entire thing was just a buildup to "Who you gonna call?". And he might share with charlotte. Or she'll just have to scrape some gunk off the the floor and put it in a jar.

[Dracorion]

Sure, but gunk isn't nearly as awesome a trophy as a piece of a motherfucking scythe. Nevermind that she probably would've wanted to take the whole thing home. She'll still hate Impact.

And seriously, get possessed? Are you just asking to die?

[Geminex]

And seriously, get possessed? Are you just asking to die?
Not until I rule Homnyr. And I don't want to get possessed, I'm just saying it might happen. As proof of how little I know what I'm doing. Cause it's close to midnight. And I am tired. Though if I don't get possessed, it would make for a kickass trophy. I might get it crafted to a weapon. Or just taunt the next Ruin General with it.

[Dracorion]

Damn. And here I thought Impact was supposed to be a genius. Oh well.

But I doubt taunting a Ruin General with it would work. Or who knows, maybe it could. Half the Ruin Generals sacrificed themselves to save the other half, maybe they're all best buds.

And it could make a kickass weapon for when Impact gets demonized.

[Geminex]

Oh, he is a genius. But he's also high on all his stimulants, plus the revive, plus exhaustion. Plus, he got a glimpse of the shadow realm. He's gonna be a bit vicious. And slightly idiotic, but more vicious. The way he sees it, Phantomere is dead, and he wants something to remember the fucker by, plus a specimen to do research on.

I'm thinking something along the lines of "Ah, general. What power. What skill. A pity you couldn't put it to good use, say, to save your brother." *flicks blade into air, catches it* "Phantomere died, General. We saw him go out in a blaze of light. It was... legendary. *chuckle* I shattered his scythe, General, I spat on his corpse. We've killed one of your kind, not easily... but we killed him. He burned. What makes you think you can stand against us?"

And yes, it would make a kickass weapon. Though, of course, it draws its power from all that is Ruinous. Which he's currently trying to destroy.
If he's gonna weaponize it, he'll need to slide a bit down the evil slope.

[Dracorion]

Going evil is what demonic powers are for!

I'm not sure that taunt would work. On the one hand, Ruin Generals aren't idiots. On the other, he might get superpissed and keep trying to kill us all, only harder, faster, better, stronger!

By the way, what the fuck is up with Harliette? At first she appears to be goddamn insane, going around on rollerskates with a machete and a shotgun. Even without that she's still wearing a cheerleader costume. Then she rips it off and pulls out two submachine guns from I can only assume her asshole. What, the cheerleader costume was camouflage? And she's Lola's sister? That's too much backstory for a character that's been kinda meh.

And Signature Techniques for Pokebrids?

[Geminex]

I assumed the pokebrid signature techniques were a secret of Faynoc's. Perhaps that's what they'll get next upgrade.

As for the taunt... maybe. Maybe not. Perhaps when the thing's dying, he'll reveal it. I'd have to see.

And Harliette has certainly been... interesting. I don't it's too much backstory, she can still develop, though I'd go back to the "slightly insane, slightly murderous" persona. She can join the Charlotte club.

As for the submachineguns, I think we were supposed to stop thinking with our brains the moment it was mentioned that she's wearing a skintight jumpsuit and is armed with submachineguns.

And for all we know, she was gonna let herself get disarmed, before pulling out the guns and killing us all.

[Dracorion]

It must've been a cheerleader costume made for a giant fatso if we didn't notice the pants or the bulges of two machine guns strapped to her body.

As for the backstory. I forgot to mention that she's apparently been friends with Whitney long enough for both of them to refer to each other with endearing names. And did some work for Faynoc.

[Geminex]

Oh I don't know. I'm guessing that Shannon and Charlotte got weapons to advance them on their path to battle-master-hood. But then she wanted to rejoin the battle. And are you gonna fucking try to disarm Charlotte when she's got a shotgun? Thought not. In fact, you're just jealous because you didn't get a gun. I'll have Impact give you his revolver next time.

And I'm getting less coherent, so I'm off to bed.

...

Just one more billy mays dub.

[Dracorion]

Fuck yeah I am! AB was going on about how Pierce was gonna be happy about something. Happy about fucking what? He didn't get a gun or a machete (he's more of a sword kinda guy anyway) and he was completely ignored the whole time, like he wasn't a big enough threat to get attacked, jerkasses. Whitney was rescued? Big deal, he doesn't even like her (whatever fantasies I come up with aside). Sure, he wanted to save her because he's a nice guy, but that's it.

[Geminex]

Oh, I get it, he wants to be "just friends"? Like a brother to her? ^^

And hey, ask shannon if you can have the machete. I'm sure she won't mind. In fact, weapons for everyone! Just ignore the fact that I'm the only slayer in this team!

[Dracorion]

We actually do seem to be forgetting that you're the only Slayer.

But hey, if it makes you feel any better, Impact is probably our best fighter against Ruin-types.

Anyway, I think Pierce is just going to get pissed, grab his knife, and shank some motherfuckers.

[Geminex]

Eh. I still have the upgrades. And I have elemental attacks. And I actually know what I'm doing.

What motherfuckers? We defeated all enemies. Unless you mean in later missions. Though really, in PvP, I want Pierce to fight Impact with a knife. It'd be awesome.

[Dracorion]

It'll be in later missions.

And sure, Pierce can fight Impact with a knife. He'll have a pokemon out to support him and only after Impact is sufficiently weakened, of course.

[Menarker]

Well, you guys been posting a lot.

VICTORY! <(^.^<) "(^.^)" (>^.^)>

1: The picture above is completely alluring and beyond words. Too bad Renny passed out with these two ladies in the house! Lucky all the same! Lola, Charlotte, Shannon, Tsubasa, "Sammy" all in his team one second, and two bodacious lusty pokesapiens in his room right after! It's good to be King!

2: I don't know why you guys seem to think Renny's sideplot is any less insightful or carefully crafted than any of yours. It's like you expect my sidestory to be nothing but a filler episode. (Probably a bit moreso compared to your tragic backstories but I digress) :3 Only thing you got right is that Snorlax will be present. :3

3: AB, once you think everyone has posted or two for an epilogue or so (I'll do two posts myself), let me know when you're ready.

My post might be delayed for about 2 hours or so due to me having to leave for school and all.

[Dracorion]

Well, what the hell could Renny's sidequest possibly be about? That one time he accidentally stepped on a Caterpie as a kid?

And I'm wondering if the curse that Phantomere put on us is still in effect. I wouldn't put it past AB to pull a dick move like that at the worst possible time.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I have taken the suggestion of Charlotte keeping some of Phantomere's remains in a jar to heart. She'll probably shake down Impact for the scythe blade sometime later, presumably after he reveals it to the next Ruin General. And yes, Charlotte was planning on keeping the Scythe, the entire scythe, in her Dining Room. You can presume that she keeps tons of such trophies in her home.

[Dracorion]

She could always keep the scythe's handle. Not a whole scythe, but close enough.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Its not the same, without the blade, its just a piece of wood.

[Dracorion]

Well, sure. But it's better than some gunk. You could pick it up and the pieces of the blade that Impact left behind and put them in a display case.

Well, not anymore you can't. But you could've.

[Menarker]

^^; Sorry about posting in the wrong discussion thread. I was looking up something in that thread for reference, saw new post there and followed in turn.

But yeah, to repeat what I said, I'll be making my post for AB to post when everyone is ready to jumpstart the side-story. AB can edit it a bit with his own bit of style, but yeah.

[Astral Harmony]

Mornin', fuckers.

That curse that Phantomere put on you is no longer in effect, which makes it kinda gay because that means it didn't do shit. What was it supposed to do? I'd just randomly put negative status on random people on random turns. Like "okay, Kingdra goes to sleep and Harliette is paralyzed and Buck is badly poisoned and then the turn after next, I could..." That kind of thing.

I really couldn't justify Phantomere surviving after taking three Testament Drives. But at least you've all gotten a good warning of just how extreme fighting a Ruin General can get.

Anyways, I'm going to read Menarker's PM about the gist of what his sidequest will be, then I'll throw in my posts in the RP this afternoon and set things up for Menarker to take over.

[Dracorion]

You and me, AB? We gotta sit down and talk. As soon as I get off my ass and actually write the PM, of course.

I want Pierce's sidequest after Mission 3, and there's some relevant info I need so I can hammer out the details.

And for everyone's benefit: if I'm understanding correctly, Menarker is GMing his sidequest? Does that mean everyone has to GM their own sidequest? Because I would much rather you did it. I mean, I suppose I could do it, maybe possibly, but it'd be much easier of you do.

[Menarker]

I assumed that AB would be GMing it and I would just be setting the plot/guideline on Renny's side. Anything with the foes and such would obviously be plot twists brought on via AB and all that.

EDIT: Sent my PM to AB. This following "Mission" should be interesting. ^______________^

[Geminex]

Yeah, that's what I assumed as well. Though if all you're setting is the "Plot/Guideline" I don't see why you can't just tell us the general setting, since you are fully aware of ours. That's all I'm saying.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I don't think Menarker is fully aware of 'ours' in the sense that I don't have a clue about what Charlotte's will be, and we still need to beat the crap out of Matthias to learn stuff about him. (totally not obsessed with torturing Matt)

As Dracorian put it: neutral cop/bad cop/batshit insane cop

[Geminex]

Oh allright. I'll get the shock rods. You take the shotgun.

"I have a shotgun, here, matt. Double-barreled. Two shots. *wink* One for each kneecap."

[Dracorion]

I'll bring the mindrape.

[DanteFalcon]

I got an evil grin from reading that. I'm not sure if its a counter plan I have yet to fully realize or just a masochistic tendency.

[Dracorion]

Well, when Impact, Charlotte and Pierce team up you're proper fucked, so it can't be the counter plan. You must be a masochist.

Change of plan guys, we're just doing mindrape now. We'll feed every masochist's worst nightmare straight into his brain.

If that doesn't work, we lock him in a room with Charlotte for like a week straight, and she'll have her way with him until he's not a masochist anymore or he explodes. Masochism overload, if you will.

[Geminex]

We'll feed every masochist's worst nightmare straight into his brain.

Sooo...
We don't torture him at all, but treat him very nicely?

[Dracorion]

It's psychological torture man. Not quite as satisfying, but much more effective.

[Bard The 5th LW]

If that doesn't work, we lock him in a room with Charlotte for like a week straight, and she'll have her way with him until he's not a masochist anymore or he explodes. Masochism overload, if you will.

She'd probably get bored. Like, it would be fun to her for like, maybe the first two days, but afterward she would be running out of ideas to use, seeing as how Matt would likely be broken beyond reacting to anything else she could dish out.

But yeah, I do want us to shake him down for info on his past, mindrape or no. I got an excuse to; Impact has done research on all of our backgrounds during the time between missions, and couldn't find anything on Matt, so he recruits Charlotte and maybe Pierce to look into it with him. It'd be a bit out of character for Pierce though.

[Geminex]

It's psychological torture man.
That sentence is so much better without the comma.

Look up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It... it reminds me of my alcoholic stepfather!

[Dracorion]

She'd probably get bored. Like, it would be fun to her for like, maybe the first two days, but afterward she would be running out of ideas to use, seeing as how Matt would likely be broken beyond reacting to anything else she could dish out.

Well, the door doesn't open from the inside, and who cares if it's also torture for Charlotte? She'd probably go crazier and inflict some more harm on Matt.

But yeah, I do want us to shake him down for info on his past, mindrape or no. I got an excuse to; Impact has done research on all of our backgrounds during the time between missions, and couldn't find anything on Matt, so he recruits Charlotte and maybe Pierce to look into it with him. It'd be a bit out of character for Pierce though.

Pierce would be reluctantly willing to shake Matt down if he thought he was hiding something important.

That sentence is so much better without the comma.

Look up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It... it reminds me of my alcoholic stepfather!

Best. Superhero. Ever.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Well, the door doesn't open from the inside, and who cares if it's also torture for Charlotte? She'd probably go crazier and inflict some more harm on Matt.

Problem. You'd never be able to open that door again without someone dieing. Although that may not be a problem to the survivor(s) I suppose.

[Dracorion]

That's where mind control or an illusion comes in. Impact dies.

And Pierce would also be willing to torture Matt if he thought they couldn't trust him. Which would involve Matt doing something that would make Pierce question his commitment to the team.

[Geminex]

I like the idea also. I was gonna have Impact do the research anyway, and considering how much of an unknown factor matt is, he'll want to find out more. I think we can implement that.

[Dracorion]

That could be a problem.

Unless Impact chooses to keep his knowledge of Pierce's criminal past to himself until Pierce's sidemission.

[Geminex]

Humm. No, I don't think I'd have him find out. Perhaps Pierce just covered his tracks well. Or maybe Impact'll just focus on Matt.

[Dracorion]

Pierce probably covered his tracks well enough.

I'm still trying to think of ways for Pierce to get in on torturing Matt without the latter hiding an important piece of information (which likely won't happen any time soon) or being a double-crossing bastard (which, considering it's been two missions and Matt hasn't done shit and doesn't look to be doing anything anytime soon, would take even longer).

[Geminex]

Hey, I could totally have Impact do the "manipulative bastard" bit. Make up some item he's allegedly discovered in the records, that indicates that they're in danger of being betrayed by Matt.

Though are we actually gonna do torture? I would have assumed we'd pressure him into telling us about himself. But actual force'd get us screwed.

[Dracorion]

That's why the secret actually needs to be true. Then we could keep quiet about it in exchange for Matt not ratting us out.

Or we could reach some agreement with the NPCs and Renny where they look the other way and have nothing to do with it because the secret is of the utmost importance and we gotta look at the bigger picture.

[Geminex]

Well, for us to do anything so ambitious, we'd need Dantefalcon to cooperate. Only it appears that he doesn't intend to.

Edit: Though, considering his latest post, it seems that he has something worked out. Backup plans. Phantomere DNA. Concerns about "corruption". So yeah, no more excuses. TELL US WHAT YOUR CHARACTER IS THINKING.

And is it gonna be a running gag that whenever we kill a high-tier enemy, everyone's gonna want a piece?

Fire general: "You want a piece of me!?"
Impact: "Dibs on the claws."
Charlotte: "Hey, fuck you. Ok, I'll take fangs."
Pierce: "You have a spine, right? Then I want the spine."
Matt: "What about me?"
Charlotte: "Oh, shut up. You just need a few cells. Take its eyeball. Or its genitals. If it has genitals, that is. Hey! Have you got genitals?"

[Dracorion]

Wait, wait, hold the phone. Matt reveals himself to be more than a one-dimensional character? Or, hell, non-dimensional, because again, he hasn't actually done anything to indicate anything before.

Regardless, this is perfect. Impact can find evidence that suggests Matt is some sort of mole, and we put the pressure on him. When he doesn't come clean, cue the torture.

[Geminex]

Well, but we don't know what kind of "evidence" he could find. He could make something up, because he doesn't trust matt, but to find evidence we'd need to know WHAT THERE IS TO FIND.

[Menarker]

*Is happy that he is left out of the entire looting body part of dead enemies gag.*

But yeah, it's hard to see who Matt trusts or respects. As Dante said before, he has two different type of respect going on for his character. One for whom he trusts and whom he will support.

^^; Out of everyone, I think he might only trust Renny out of the main characters just because Renny actually showed attention to his health (Asked about his wing and health after the bank mission) and doesn't seem to have ulterior motives. While he may seem too naive to him, Renny probably seems like a safe bet for trusting one's wellbeing to compared to all the other potential backstabbers. :3

[Dracorion]

We wouldn't have to know.

See, in-character Impact could find out, and you, Geminex, could word your post to keep vague what he find out.

Alternately (or additionally), we know he's been looking into a possible corruption higher up in PATCA, which means he would have checked out a lot of personel files. That's a start.

He also probably would've done a lot of spying on said personel. Which I think is a good enough reason for us to confront him.

And maybe, if we're reaaaaally lucky, we'll get to torture 'im.

EDIT: And Menarker, Dante said Matt would trust Pierce but support Impact. Not sure if that's changed.

[Menarker]

Given that suspicious outburst about how he preferred Shannon even at her worst to some of the current members in the team at the start of the mission, I suspect things have changed a bit. :3 Of course, this is just my conjecture.

[Dracorion]

Of course. Because Shannon had only just joined the team and couldn't possibly be corrupt.

And I'm not sure what changed between everyone talking about teams, which is when Dante said that Matt would trust Pierce, and Dante posting that in the RP.

[Geminex]

Well, ok, speculation. I don't think he's investigating corruption in PATCA, because he seems to have ambitions to use the Phantomere DNA "as a pokebrid", by which I assume that he wants to combine its DNA with his own, give himself a more powerful potential paradigm shift.

And his worries of "corruption" might fit in with the fact that we'll be battling the Kimonos in mission 7.

Of course, a lot of that would imply that dante got extra information/permissions from AB. If he's not going to tell us what his character's thinking, I'd at least like to know whether he's been arranging anything with AB.

[DanteFalcon]

I have not. It is actually within PATCA. Your just thinking of the wrong incident.

[Geminex]

Well, Dante, I think we're suffering a bit of miscommunication, here. You seem to get the general gist of what I'm saying, but I doubt I've made my point well enough. Either that, or you seem entirely unwilling to understand. But it doesn't matter which, I think I can fix our problem.

You see, I've always thought that graphs and numbers are so much better at expressing cold, hard facts. So here we go. My dilemma. And yours too, really.

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad317/geminex/Matt.jpg

I do hope I've made myself more clear this time. ^^

[Astral Harmony]

Sorry, I'm not going to read and try to understand all this, especially the parts about torturing Matthias. I'll just read the in-character shit in the actual RP and leave it at that.

As for character sidequests, there're certain things that you, the one who created the sidequest, will be in charge of, and things that me, the actual GM, will be in charge of. Renny will pretty much set the scene when we get there and control his NPCs. I'll control mine and decide a few events like when the real action kicks off (not the PvP that I'm actually going to leave up to the PvPers).

Honestly, I'm a little taken aback by Pierce wanting to raid Millenium House after Mission 3. I kinda was planning on having that much later, but maybe I'm just thinking about standard RPG timing for raiding a major enemy's base of operations. Lemme tell you, it can and will happen should he really desire it, but you're dual classing (or super classing) after Mission 3 to help in that mission, because I don't intend to make that a cake walk. Faynoc doesn't like you enough as it is thanks to Mission 2 alone, and now you're about to walk right into his lair? Yeah, you'd better be ready for some seriously fucked-up shit.

Anyways, I've got a lotta reading and a lotta posting and a lotta thinking, so I'm gonna get started on all that now.

By the way, Menarker, those PMs are effin' weird. The Kimonos don't have a phone. They're all hunkered down in ancient ruins 'n' shit. But I will find a way where they're contacted...or where they'll contact us.

[DanteFalcon]

I take a perverse pleasure in frustrating you Gem. That made my night.

[Geminex]

Oh very well. Be a dick, I don't mind. Your character's testicles will, but I don't.

Edit: And it's not actually that perverse. As the direness of my threats increases, so does the amount of ridicule I receive. You can imagine how annoying this gets when I'm threatening to burn the world and break humanity, but I can deal with it, since it gives me the opportunity to go "I told you so" over the televisor, just before the global nuclear strike goes down.
...
In other news, I am a perfectly balanced and sane human being. Not crazy with bloodust or megalomania at all.

[DanteFalcon]

Read that wrong.....weeeeell it sounds like fun. I'll be looking forward to Gem's attempt to rig that scenario

[Geminex]

Pikachu (http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=SU7&tbo=1&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=pikachu&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=)


Crocodile clamp (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=oom&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=crocodile%20clamp&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)

"To crocodile-clamp": To attach something via crocodile clamps.

Usually I'd have said "car battery" instead of "Pikachu", but I wanted to get into the spirit of things. Hey, maybe we can get Rachel to join in, we wouldn't have to find an enraged pikachu.

Edit: Wait, how the hell did you edit your post without a message appearing? Anyway, you seem to know what I mean, so no further explanation is necessary. And it won't be me, it'll be Impact. Y'know, the guy who sees you as a despicable half-breed.

[DanteFalcon]

Meh. I've heard worse. And seen worse.

Like soaking said balls in water and then taking a tazer to them.

[Geminex]

Seen worse? I thought you were a masochist, not a sadist. Unless that goes hand-in-hand, I don't know.

Anyway, I'll leave Bard and Drac to finish intimidating you. I'm not all that effective, it seems.

[DanteFalcon]

There's a horror movie called Living Hell. Where they do the aforementioned torture.

Hence seen worse.

[Geminex]

Right.

What did they torture the poor guy for? What he utterly refusing to reveal his character's backstory or motivations, simply for the sake of gaining a petty advantage and mildly annoying a poor german?

[DanteFalcon]

Any advantage I gain is negligible. I just feel that revelations like that are better left in game.

And the reasoning was because they felt like it. Seriously. The victim is a kid in a wheelchair who happened to be vulnerable.

Why am I talking about that deranged movie shortly before I sleep?

[Geminex]

I have no idea. But hey, sweet dreams.

Though where do you live? I just checked timezones, and none of them seem likely.

And ok. You won't tell us. Can we get matt to tell us?

Edit: Preferrably without torture? I've gone through a few scenarios in my head, and they all end up with matt hating me, and people realizing how unkind Impact can be. Best case scenario would be to use old "acquaintances" of Charlotte's to Kidnap and torture the dude, but that'd be risky as well.

[DanteFalcon]

Yes Matthias will be willing to converse to an extent. However someone else has to start the conversation.

I live in the USA in CST. Sleep is for the weak. Its only 5:12 AM

[Geminex]

Ah. Silly me, thinking I was the only one with a screwed-up sleep schedule.

I'll have Impact do that then. Or perhaps Pierce should. Not sure.

[Astral Harmony]

Wow, that was a lot to put out, and I think I'm only half done. So I'm going to leave that as it is for tonight, make another wall of text tomorrow afternoon, and hopefully the next mission can began then.

As for me, I need sleep now.

But I will tell you the main points of what I posted:

- Whitney and Harliette will be joining the Watchmen. You'll need 'em.

- Shizuka, Mika, and Kiyomi will be present at Renny's party. They'll make this official in the next post from me.

- Faynoc's cooking up some trouble for you. A whole mess of trouble.

[Geminex]

That's... interesting. I like the Kimonos a lot more, suddenly. Though considering all the stuff they can do, I'm sure it wouldn't be necessary to kill anyone.

Ok, and renny's having a party. That's cool. And I'm guessing that master Faynoc's... disciples? Servants? Inner circle? will crash the party? Very nice. So what'll we be facing? Cressalia and Darkrai pokebrids/battle mages? That's all I could come up with for one light and one dark. Though I guess it could be lugia/ho-oh. Or maybe yet another new pair of legendaries. Along with their squads. Should be cool. Though where does PvP come in? Do we just arrange that ourselves?

Harliett/Lola exposition is really interesting.

As for Rayleen... Tell me, the doctor who operated on her when she was brought in wounded, would she have been a less-than-sympathetic character? A villain, perhaps? Because I could totally imagine a Rayleen/Metaleon pokebrid facing us.

And I just realized: Unless everyone gets their upgrades before the arena mission, it'll be a little imbalanced. Unless the lucky few who have them by then agree not to use them.

Anyway, awaiting next post, found this one quite fascinating.

Edit: And what say you, while we wait for AB to post, we can go back to when our team was still in the van, and our characters can talk amongst themselves. We could get down to talking to Matt, maybe.

[Dracorion]

Honestly, I'm a little taken aback by Pierce wanting to raid Millenium House after Mission 3.

What? No.

Pierce's sidequest is a Pokebrid factory run by Faynoc. Or, more accurately, one of his underlings.

Well, it is now, because what you just said is exactly what I needed to know.

EDIT: You know what I just realized? The blade tip that Impact picked up is the One Ring.

One Tip to rule them all, one Tip to find them
One Tip to bring them all and in the Darkness bind them.

[Geminex]

... That is awesome. That is, in fact, quite inspirational.

I think I'll work his brief trip into the shadow realm into his slide towards evil. The tip will be... a reminder of his commitment. His followers will bear replicae. Scythetip. I'm not sure what I'm gonna call Scythetip, but it's gonna be something awesome and dreaded.

[Dracorion]

Yeah, until some asshole with a shiny sword goes and cuts off your fingers and takes the damn thing.

And then the real fun begins.

By the way, are our characters going to know that the Kimonos are going to the party? Because Pierce would bring the scythe handle along for Mika to study.

[Geminex]

Thank god Chizuru's not there. Pierce'd get drunk and try to make out with her. Hell, Snorlax might get drunk and try to make out with her.

...

Disturbing mental images aside, Impact might want to fight Shizuka. Y'know, standard sword fight. Just to see how strong she is. He gets soundly beaten, of course, but it'll provide a good background for when they fight again.

[Dracorion]

Do we have to go over this again? I called Shizuka forever ago. Get trounced by Kirie if you want.

[Geminex]

Oh come on. How's Pierce gonna face her? Will he just grab a steak knife from the table? Because if he has his pokemon fight, then it's really not much of a duel, anymore.

And besides, like I explained above: Plot. This isn't just about getting my ass kicked, it's about setting it up for an awesome one-liner when Impact mind-crushes Shizuka at the ruins. Why is Impact going to fight Shizuka at the ruins?
1: Full demons. Impact and Shizuka are the only ones on either team. Do the math.
2: Leaders. The laws of anime (because that's what this is become, awesome, awesome anime) declare that in epic showdowns, counterparts must fight each other. Meaning Renny fights Chizuru, Charlotte fights Kirie, Matt fights... Mika?, Pierce fights Tsubasa, Impact fights Shizuka. Of course, depending on what's tactically wise, it'll probably involve a lot of focusing fire, but I still demand that in the final post of the final mission, every team member must land the killing blow on their counterpart.

TL;DR: This isn't the rival you're looking for! *handwave*

[Dracorion]

First of all, it's not yet been decided that Impact is leader.

He certainly won't be Pierce's permanent leader, unless he does some really good manipulatin'.

Also, I totally called Shizuka. Not just this time, but every time. Because I can. My idea, if you will. By Mission 7, Pierce will be half-demon and his pokemon will be all it takes to equalize. As for this mission, you should re-read Pierce's profile. He carries a knife. And since he's not the kind of guy that carries a knife without knowing how to use it, he's got pretty good aim with it as well as knowing how to fight with it. Of course, no amount of knife-fu will help him against Shizuka, but he'll just be trying to learn a thing or two rather than win.

Since Impact isn't designated leader, and we absolutely have to pair him up with another demon, there's Shizuka and Tsubasa, who are demons, and Fujiko is a Full Demon (not sure how that's different from the other two, but whatever).

Besides, I'm a Toydarian. Mind tricks don't work on me. Only sex.

[Menarker]

I'll likely be skipping out on posting this time around while waiting for the second half of the wall of text from AB.

Would be nice if we could get our "updates" now so we can think about it and discuss it... you know, instead of thinking of torture and all that.

Yes, for PvP I imagine that would be organized between ourselves. Plenty of food and drinks, an innocent question from one of the Kimonos or NPCs asking which of the trainers is the strongest or who is the best combatant and wildfire starts from hubris or hoping to showcase one's might to look good in front of a disproportionately large audience of ladies.

Honestly don't know whether the group knows that the Kimonos would be coming. Was planning on keeping it totally hidden, but AB got plans, so I'll roll it with it. :3

And why do you all be hating Snorlax!? You make a large gentle soul cry! *BWAHHH!!!*

[Geminex]

My idea
Hey, copyright infringement. That's MY PHRASE (TM). Only I get to be petty.

And besides, when did you claim the right to have a rivalry with her? And, for that matter, when did we agree to let you? I mean, usually when I go MY IDEA (TM), it's over something moderately complex, but considering that we're gonna be fighting the kimonos anyway, it's not a big mental leap to want the rivalry with a character that corresponds fairly closely to mine.

Yes, I'm not absolute leader. None of you obey Impact the way the Kimonos obey Shizuka. You probably won't even when his tongue becomes silver, and his voice becomes like liquid gold. But if you ask yourself who's had the most control over what the team does so far, you'll probably come up with Impact, with Renny a moderately close second. Of course, for all I know, that could change. Perhaps Charlotte and Pierce will lead us next time, perhaps matt will become really manipulative and control us all. But for now, Impact's in the lead by a bit. And besides, he's the politician. World-domination. How would he accept any other position than "leader"?

As for weapons. Shizuka: Sword. Impact: Sword. Pierce: Knife.
Picture it. Both scenarios. Which one looks more fitting? Impact, wielding Rayleen's dragon slave, slender, scything through the air, showing strength, elegance, if not nearly as much skill as necessary. Perhaps even putting up something of a fight.
Pierce: Draws knife. Gets disarmed. Nods wisely.
Because seriously, unless he's throwing it, her katana has way more range than his weapon. He can't attack, unless he enters into her range first.

And why are we fighting over who gets to fight a girl? Don't guys usually fight about who gets to seduce her? Because I'd totally be fine with that. Go ahead. Take your pick. Any of them. I don't mind. Just let me break Shizuka's soul and laugh at her drooling, comatose body.
...
And no, that's not sexual, but when Impact has power, he'll want to display it. Besides, he'll be all kinds of corrupt by then. Not exactly sure how, yet, but Burning Hatred+Demon Rage+Essence of the Shadow Realm really won't make for a balanced individual.

[Dracorion]

Right there, at the start of Discussion thread 6, I issued a challenge. That's a rivalry. And no one protested at the time, nor the time after that when I reiterated that Pierce was going to be fighting Shizuka, so I assumed it was okay.

If PATCA (AB) decides to put someone else as leader, Impact will have to ragequit or suck it up. Simple as that.

By the way, Pierce's weapon when he goes half-demon? Sword. For now, here's hoping Shizuka will be sporting enough to give Pierce a free shot before disarming him. Yes, his best bet is probably to throw the knife and try to punch her in the face while she's distracted. Of course, it won't work and he'll get his ass kicked, but I can't see Impact faring much better.

And I think it's far too early to say who's "in the lead". Yes, Impact is "winning", sure. But Matt and Pierce haven't even had a shot. Charlotte is out of the question, though.

EDIT: And no, that's not sexual, but when Impact has power, he'll want to display it. Besides, he'll be all kinds of corrupt by then. Not exactly sure how, yet, but Burning Hatred+Demon Rage+Essence of the Shadow Realm really won't make for a balanced individual.

And how exactly do you think Impact will be able to hide it by the time we reach Mission 7? Because I gotta tell ya, obviously corrupt bastard does not a leader make.

For this mission, because we can't say for sure who's leader, I'd say PVP opponents should be up for grabs. Luckily, I had Shizuka reserved.

[Menarker]

... I don't see a reason at this point (or any point) why we would have to fight the Kimonos unless they be testing us or such.

... Well, unless the person fighting was evil/unbalanced and all that, but that's a solo performance at this point. :3

[Dracorion]

It's called friendly competition.

[Menarker]

2: Leaders. The laws of anime (because that's what this is become, awesome, awesome anime) declare that in epic showdowns, counterparts must fight each other. Meaning Renny fights Chizuru, Charlotte fights Kirie, Matt fights... Mika?, Pierce fights Tsubasa, Impact fights Shizuka. Of course, depending on what's tactically wise, it'll probably involve a lot of focusing fire, but I still demand that in the final post of the final mission, every team member must land the killing blow on their counterpart.



2: I still demand that in the final post of the final mission, every team member must land the killing blow on their counterpart.


Doesn't look like friendly competition from this side. :3

Also, we're talking PvP against the Kimonos, aka the NPCs?

"Inconcievable!"
""You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

[Dracorion]

Well, obviously not in Mission 7.

But for Renny's sidequest coming up which involves PVP, no reason why there can't be some friendly sparring.

[Geminex]

If PATCA (AB) decides to put someone else as leader, Impact will have to ragequit or suck it up. Simple as that.
Definetly. Though in general, as you've proven, being in the lead doesn't always mean people will do what you tell them to.

And I think it's far too early to say who's "in the lead". Yes, Impact is "winning", sure. But Matt and Pierce haven't even had a shot. Charlotte is out of the question, though.
And if you re-read my post, that's exactly what I've said. Impact has had a lot of influence so far. But I concede that there's no guarantees that this state of affairs'll continue. I'll try to build up my lead, expand Impact's influence, but there's not telling what'll happen.

Though how about this. I concede rivalry, you concede support. Impact will be indifferent to proving his strength against the kimonos, become more strategic. Primary goal before pride. Gaining power before proving it. Fairly major change, actually.
Pierce will... aknowlege that Impact's idea are quite good. That it's wise to follow them, particularly because Impact will be very careful not to... abuse this trust. By which I mean, he won't have Pierce work against his own favor.

And didn't Pierce have a fair go at leadership in the first mission? No designated leader, anyone could shout out orders. Yet, I believe, Impact did a lot of leading. Particularly towards the end.

[Dracorion]

Definetly. Though in general, as you've proven, being in the lead doesn't always mean people will do what you tell them to.

Well it's up to Impact if he wants to follow orders from a trainer or a Pokebrid or if he wants to usurp leadership. Of course, if he tries to pull that crap on Pierce, he'll get shot down so hard like you would not believe.

Though how about this. I concede rivalry, you concede support. Impact will be indifferent to proving his strength against the kimonos, become more strategic. Primary goal before pride. Gaining power before proving it. Fairly major change, actually.
Pierce will... aknowlege that Impact's idea are quite good. That it's wise to follow them, particularly because Impact will be very careful not to... abuse this trust. By which I mean, he won't have Pierce work against his own favor.

Pierce doesn't really trust Impact right now. Impact's comments at the first briefing, and his sweet talking of Renny at the second briefing give Pierce the impression of a guy who has to carefully pick his words so as not to let something slip. Which gives Pierce the slightest possible indication that Impact might have some bias against Pokemon, trainers, and Pokebrids. Of course, Pierce doesn't know, and he's not going to jump to anything, so he's content to follow Impact's lead as long as he agrees with his ideas.

Which is the problem. Pierce won't agree with Impact because he has to, he'll do it because he truly believes Impact is right. Given Pierce's distrust of Impact, he won't be blindly following. He'll carefully examine every idea Impact gives and decide whether it's good or bad. For example, during the Phantomere battle, Pierce may have had his own ideas about how to do things, but he thought they wouldn't be more effective than Impact's so he was fine with doing as told.

Getting Pierce to blindly agree with Impact will take a lot of sweet talking. So that's not likely to happen anytime soon.

And didn't Pierce have a fair go at leadership in the first mission? No designated leader, anyone could shout out orders. Yet, I believe, Impact did a lot of leading. Particularly towards the end.

Yes, but there were several factors. Pierce did give some suggestions, but he didn't make them orders, because they were up against an unknown enemy and his guess was as good as anyone's. So he was content to do as Impact said at the time. Not to mention Rayleen was on scene and she followed Impact as well, and look how that turned out. And Pierce hadn't formed a concrete opinion of Impact at the time.

But Pierce will take the lead if he believes he has to.

[Bard The 5th LW]

It might just be Charlotte talking, but the Harliette/Lola exposition made me regret not setting Harliette on fire all the more.

And damn, I can't even go to sleep without like a whole discussion thread being filled up. Goddamn insomiacs/people in other time zones.

[Geminex]

Well, I don't want blind agreement. Just... trust. Have Pierce examine Impact's ideas, that's fine. That's good, in fact. But be... content with simply examining, double-checking, making sure Impact's not making any mistakes. But don't make the attempt to lead. Retain control over your own actions, limit Impact's influence, do that. It's good, if you're eying him with scrutiny, it means you'll trust him all the more when he passes your test.

But concede that, since someone has to make the suggestions anyway, it might as well be Impact. Because hey, he's had good ideas so far.

D'ye ken?

Edit:
Goddamn insomiacs/people in other time zones.
Both, actually. 2 AM, australia time. Goodnight.

[Dracorion]

There is no Harliette/Lola exposition. Hell, the only Harliette I know is the one that went around in rollerskates and a cheerleader costume.

And hey, now that Bard is here we can go back to discussing Matt's torture. I still say Impact does some investigating, finds out Matt has been using his ID card to access personel files and finds out that matt accessed some security footage and audio recordings involving higher-ups in PATCA. THen he recruits Charlotte and Pierce to shake him down.

If Matt refuses to talk after a while, we get physical (not full-on torture, mind you), and Impact can play the good cop.

EDIT: D'ye ken?

If Impact passes the test, sure. But until then, and if Impact doesn't pass, Pierce will make his own attempts at leadership when he has to. But of course, he'll find it very hard to lead until after his sidequest, when he can start gaining people's trust.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I am up for the current plan where Impact basically puts on the pressure for Matt to answer. If he doesn't give us something straight in the van, then we resort to violence back at the base. We can make up a reason on the fly if we have to.

Unfortunately, I can't think of a combination of letters to make the acronym spell out: Plan A.S.S.H.A.T

[Dracorion]

I am up for the current plan where Impact basically puts on the pressure for Matt to answer. If he doesn't give us something straight in the van, then we resort to violence back at the base. We can make up a reason on the fly if we have to.

I highly doubt Matt is just going to tell us that he's a mole simply because Impact asked casually.

I like my idea because it means we get to go rough on Matt and Impact gets to look like the good guy in Matt's eyes like Gem wanted.

Unfortunately, I can't think of a combination of letters to make the acronym spell out: Plan A.S.S.H.A.T

Affirmative Secondary Strategy to go Hardass on Assumed Traitor.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I guess, but how would beating up Matt make Matt think Impact is a good guy?

Whatever, operation Beating and Assailing a Secretive Teammate for Alleged and Ridiculous Developments is a go then.

[Dracorion]

Because Impact would try to stop us. Half-assedly, of course, but convincing enough to make Matt think Impact doesn't like torturing him.

[Bard The 5th LW]

http://www.forumspile.com/Misc-OhSnap_Bear.jpg

Yes, that was entirely necessary! You see, I didn't want to mess up my own plans for torturing Matt, but Charlotte did, and I can't say no, less I have my legs broken. Good characters write themselves after all.

[Geminex]

If Impact passes the test, sure. But until then, and if Impact doesn't pass, Pierce will make his own attempts at leadership when he has to. But of course, he'll find it very hard to lead until after his sidequest, when he can start gaining people's trust.

Ok... so what kind of test were you thinking of?

Because yeah, I wasn't out for trust or friendship or emotional connection. Just... acknowledgment that Impact's a better leader (and, I mean, he has been proving that he's tactically quite competent), and maybe, just maybe the assumption that Impact wouldn't do anything to actively hurt the team. It might be a bit of a stretch to get Pierce to think like this, but you can find a way, I'm sure. I'll be finding a way to make Impact less... bloodthirsty and more calculating, after all.

Because you do remember, this is supposed to be a bargain, yes? I let you have rivalry, you let me have leadership? As trades go, I think it's fair, but it'll take a bit of effort from both of us.


Anyway, back to torturing matt, if we're gonna strongarm him, I really think we should go pay someone else to do it. After the party, we can invite him to meet us at a cafe or something, and have him kidnapped on the way there. We wait for a while, while they make him talk, then we make a few miraculous realizations, maybe find a few clues, maybe someone talks, and we burst into the room, take out the thugs, save Matt.

Of course, the problem is this:
And hey, now that Bard is here we can go back to discussing Matt's torture. I still say Impact does some investigating, finds out Matt has been using his ID card to access personel files and finds out that matt accessed some security footage and audio recordings involving higher-ups in PATCA. THen he recruits Charlotte and Pierce to shake him down.
If this were true, if we knew there was evidence of this, and Impact was in a position to find it, that'd be great. What we're planning on doing is justified. But as long as Dante doesn't tell us what evidence there is to find, or even if there is evidence to find, doing this would amount to GMing. If we wanna torture matt, we have to get dante to talk. Otherwise, it'd be really unjustified, because Impact would have no evidence at all. And while Charlotte wouldn't mind, Pierce might.

Edit: If we could do what you've described, if we could find evidence that makes matt look like a genuine threat, we wouldn't even have to hire someone else to do it, because then we could be motivated by the desire to keep the team safe. We'd see ourself as the good guys. But for that to happen, dante would either need to tell us what's going on, or, at the very least, whether there's evidence that could make it look like Matt is a threat. Because as long as we know that such evidence exists, I can have Impact find it, but be really vague about it, we get our justification, beat up matt. If we don't know, there's nothing I can do, really.

[Dracorion]

Ok... so what kind of test were you thinking of?

Beats the hell out of me, you're the one who first mentioned a test.

Because yeah, I wasn't out for trust or friendship or emotional connection. Just... acknowledgment that Impact's a better leader (and, I mean, he has been proving that he's tactically quite competent), and maybe, just maybe the assumption that Impact wouldn't do anything to actively hurt the team. It might be a bit of a stretch to get Pierce to think like this, but you can find a way, I'm sure. I'll be finding a way to make Impact less... bloodthirsty and more calculating, after all.

Pierce isn't acknowledgeing that Impact is a better leader until he can trust Impact. Honestly, I don't know how. Not as much as Matt, but Impact has been distant and, moreso than Matt, manipulative. Not to mention when he abuses pauses, he gives Pierce the impression of trying to hold something back. As for being tactically competent, sure, but who hasn't?

I will give you that Pierce doesn't yet believe that Impact is actively trying to hurt the team.

Because you do remember, this is supposed to be a bargain, yes? I let you have rivalry, you let me have leadership? As trades go, I think it's fair, but it'll take a bit of effort from both of us.

Yyyyeaaah, that's the problem. I can't see Pierce giving up rivalry or his bid for leadership. Not unless Impact puts up a really elaborate act (and stops looking like he's holding something back when he talks, or hiding something, and whatshit and whatnot).

Of course, things're gonna be rocky for the next couple of missions, because Pierce isn't exactly a bucket of honesty himself. After his sidequest, he won't have anymore secrets.

Basically, like Bard said: good characters write themselves.

[Geminex]

and stops looking like he's holding something back when he talks, or hiding something, and whatshit and whatnot

...
That's how I always talk! Seriously! Long pauses? Choosing your words carefully? That's me. Admittedly, with me it's less because I'm holding stuff back and more because english is my second language and while I'm fluent, I like to express myself precisely. But still!

How has Impact been manipulative? For that matter, how's he been distant? He's been interacting with others, shouting out encouragement (or what could be seen as encouragement), showing emotion. He's even asked about the others personally, the only character to do so, so far.


Yyyyeaaah, that's the problem. I can't see Pierce giving up rivalry or his bid for leadership.

Again, why not? He speaks with long pauses? Really? Is that it?

[Dracorion]

That's how I always talk! Seriously! Long pauses? Choosing your words carefully? That's me. Admittedly, with me it's less because I'm holding stuff back and more because english is my second language and while I'm fluent, I like to express myself precisely. But still!

Well, shit. If it's a thing you do and not Impact, that's Pierce pretty much fucked isn't it? Except now I gotta figure a way out of this mess, jerk.

How has Impact been manipulative? For that matter, how's he been distant? He's been interacting with others, shouting out encouragement (or what could be seen as encouragement), showing emotion. He's even asked about the others personally, the only character to do so, so far.

Not a lot, but like I said, more than Matt. And he's been distant compared to everyone else on the team except Matt and Charlotte (and Pierce).

Again, why not? He speaks with long pauses? Really? Is that it?

And manipulative. Don't forget manipulative. Well, more like silver-tongued. Still.

Well, pauses be damned. Pierce doesn't trust Impact, but he doesn't not trust Impact anymore. That's something.

[DanteFalcon]

I parry your jab Impact and riposte.

[Dracorion]

Oh dear.

It seems to be a clash of the manipulative bastards.

Who will prevail?!

[Geminex]

Not a lot, but like I said, more than Matt. And he's been distant compared to everyone else on the team except Matt and Charlotte (and Pierce).
...
So, you're saying he's the second least PC, after Renny? That's more of a compliment, really.

Pierce doesn't trust Impact, but he doesn't not trust Impact anymore.

Does this mean what I think it means?

Edit:
Really, dante? Really? That's your riposte? I fart in your general direction.

[Dracorion]

So, you're saying he's the second least PC, after Renny? That's more of a compliment, really.

Actually, I was counting NPCs.

...Does this mean what I think it means?

I dunno. What do you think it means?

Psst. Matt isn't so much saying that Impact isn't telling the whole truth and that doesn't inspire confidence in him as a leader. Rather, he's saying that the implication that Impact might not always be willing to help people doesn't inspire confidence as a leader.

[Geminex]

Psst. Matt isn't so much saying that Impact isn't telling the whole truth and that doesn't inspire confidence in him as a leader. Rather, he's saying that the implication that Impact might not always be willing to help people doesn't inspire confidence as a leader.

Yeah, I get that bit, but he's still saying that, due to lacking justification on Impact's part, he seems like a bad leader. And Impact's saying that that's a fallacy.

I dunno. What do you think it means?
That Impact's brilliant display of emotion and personality has won over Pierce? *cheesy smile*

Actually, I was counting NPCs.
Fair enough, but NPCs don't count, since they ain't gonna lead.

[Dracorion]

It means that with the pause thing being explained as a you thing rather than Impact's, I can't use it as evidence to have Pierce distrust Impact. Which means we're left with two pieces of evidence: Impact's silver tongue and his comments during the first briefing, neither of which are enough for Pierce to think anything concrete about Impact. Hence, doesn't trust, but doesn't distrust.

You basically just retconned Pierce's opinion of Impact.

[Geminex]

You basically just retconned Pierce's opinion of Impact.

Retcon, fuck yeah!
Still, I'll try to keep the long pauses minimal from now on. Just to make sure. In fact, from now on, when he does use long pauses, assume he's being either sinister or highly emotional. Or both.

Edit: Argh. You know when you have your character give a clue as to his sinister true goals, but then don't remember that you had him do that? Yeah. That's what is, I think, scientifically called a "fail". -.-

[DanteFalcon]

It did clue you in to one of Matthias's methods though.

Tearing apart your statements for any clue as to any hidden intention.

[Dracorion]

I do believe a change of plan is in order.

Charlotte and Pierce will torture Impact and Matt.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Hmmm... Impact sounds fun, but they're are probably so many more ways to inflict pain on Matt. I'll give Dracorion first pick.

[Dracorion]

Eeenie meenie minie moe.

Let's go with Matt. Impact probably has torture training, so we're better off practicing on Matt first.

[Geminex]

Re-he-he-he-heally? You? Torture me? Come now, that's just silly.
And besides, for what reason? Impact was more than open about his goals.

[Dracorion]

For giggles? Hell, I dunno.

I'll figure something out, even if I have to make some shit up.

[Menarker]

...

How has Impact been manipulative? For that matter, how's he been distant? He's been interacting with others, shouting out encouragement (or what could be seen as encouragement), showing emotion. He's even asked about the others personally, the only character to do so, so far.


I like to point out that this is completely inaccurate in regards to being the only character to do so as Renny does so more frequently and even asked Matt prior to the second mission about his injury and well-being.

[Geminex]

Point taken, Renny does show he cares for others. But has he asked for the backstory of others before, or their motivations?

[Dracorion]

Pierce is gonna bullshit you so hard like you would not believe.

... As soon as I get around to writing the post.

[Geminex]

Hey, we heard a bit from Matt. That's good enough for now, Pierce can say what he wants. Though anything he says can and will be used against him, be warned.

[Astral Harmony]

New Discussion Thread (http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?p=1031137#post1031137) up, and it's awesome right off the bat.