Pok?mon Umbral Discussion 10: PvPing Inside and Outside the RP

[Astral Harmony]

Well, I dunno about leaders in the future, but I will say that Renny's the protagonist of this RP since he's, y'know, the only good guy player character. The rest of you keep talking about manipulations and distrust. You may even be worse criminals than the Evil Eevee Eight.

Anyways, with all these sidequests, we'll never get to go to the beach. Not like there's anything worthwhile at the beach anyways...

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4314/pokmonbabesatthebeach.png

...I mean, yeah, there's a likelihood of there being a Ruin General but not much else of anything nice to look at...

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7576/pokmonbabesatthebeach2.png

...and okay, sure I'm planning to introduce the Snagger there to replace Mike but that's more or less the gist of it. I can't think of any other good reason to be there at all...

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/507/pokmonbabesatthehotspri.png

...Oh, wait, that last one's Mission Twelve at the public hot springs. Feh.

Hopefully I can make all my other interesting plot points and have time to dish out the upgrades, then let Menarker take over from there, so I'll get crackin' on that immediately.

Actually, there's also a really sexy picture of the Pokémon girls at a swimming pool, but I can't put too much fanservice in one post. Gotta have something for the threads in the future, y'know.

[Menarker]

... *Jaw drop*

Wow.

But yeah, looking forward to the updates and such.

[Geminex]

Oh come on. How does being good-aligned make him the protagonist? Impact's totally good-aligned too! Or at least he sees himself as being so. And Charlotte's good-aligned too! I mean, how's she supposed to know that chewing people's legs and then beating them to death with them is wrong? Because a "protagonist" is the chief actor, main character. And that'd make things quite boring.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protagonist

And yeah, we'll see about that. Impact's power hunger will not be sated until he rules the PATCA.

Second picture's my favorite.

[Astral Harmony]

That post is pretty much a big change to Menarker's PM so make it all meet together. I'll get to work on coming up with the upgrades now. It should all be in an edit of this post.

EDIT: Here you go, fresh off my steaming brain.

Slayer Upgrades

New Medium Weapon!: Ricewood Rifle ~ A rifle so special that Professor Ricewood put her name on it since she worked on the damn thing from start to finish day in and day out for a whole week. This weapon is a modified organic weapon of the Raikner, a Ruin Pokémon with dual armcannons. Place one arm in the tight slot at the bottom of the weapon to have a good, sturdy grip on the weapon. Reach into the hole near the top and pull on the violet tendons to fire the weapon. The weapon fires yellow laser beams from an altered sensory sphere and inflicts Ruin type damage. Ultra effective against Fighting types. Super effective against Grass, Ground, Rock and Ice types.

New Armor!: Guardian Globe ~ Looks like a sensory sphere attached to a bracelet. Kinda looks a little too pretty for a man to wear, but the protection it affords against Ruin type attacks will make the people making fun of you wish they were wearing them when the Ruin Pokémon amass on the battlefield.

New Slayer Ability!: Sweep ~ The Slayer can now make any attack hit two or more enemy targets in the same battle. The power is divided appropriately (in half if targeting two, in thirds if targeting three, and so on and so forth). A great way for a ticked off Slayer to show 'em who really owns this bitch. Can be used with any weapon and all accessories as applicable.

Pokémon Trainer Upgrades

New Pokémon Upgrade!: Leader Pokémon Number Increase ~ Increases the number of Leader Pokémon (Pokémon that can have six moves instead of just four) by one. Trainers now have two leader Pokémon.

New Power!: Trainer Attack ~ The Pokémon Trainer uses a weapon of sorts (or not) and attacks a single target. Available every turn. Power, accuracy, and other effects are determined by the context (the weapon/s available on your person or in the environment). Weapons available in the environment will be noted at the start of the battle. The Trainer is not exposed to danger by attacking, so the Trainer isn't in any additional danger by helping his Pokémon with a little personal assistance.

New Command!: Divide ~ The opposite of Focus. Use it to make attacks that normally hit one enemy hit two foes at once. Attack power is halved. A great tactic is to use this move to defeat two weak Pokémon instead of defeating just one and wasting the move's potential. You can choose which two Pokémon to hit, so long as both are in the same battle.

Pokébrid Upgrades

New Pokébrid Power!: Synchronization Technique ~ A powerful arsenal of supernatural techniques that are not moves per se, but like ancient powers that your average Pokémon cannot do. Use of a Signature Technique requires the user to be Paradigm Shifted into the appropriate Pokémon form (Whitney's use of this move earlier and it's effects are the only exception and will not be repeated). Each technique can be used once per battle and can be used in the same turn as when the user first Paradigm Shifts. The list below details all eight Pokébrid forms available, the two for Matthias, the two for Whitney, the two for Rachel, and the two for Lola. You are not required to shout the name of the attack, but it just seems to feel more powerful that way, y'know?

- Venomoth (Matthias) [Powder Punishment] ~ Uses Disable, Toxic, Supersonic, Stun Spore, and Sleep Powder on the target with 100% effectiveness. Need to rid yourself of a threat but couldn't possibly do so by killing it? Try this move and see if you don't fuck 'em up royally.
- Castform (Matthias) [Forecast Shift] ~ Takes control of the weather and allows it to be whatever Matthias wants it to be. Got a sandstorm you don't want and wish Sunny Day was in effect? This is your move. Oh, and you can still use a move in that turn! Turn the tables on the environment and on your opponent.
- Gardevoir (Whitney) [Black Hole] ~ Swallows the enemy on the first turn, deals huge damage that ignores type, and spits them out the next turn. Get rid of a threat for a crucial turn and leave them bleeding. Could be helpful during certain touch-and-go battles.
- Mismagius (Whitney) [Dance of Illusions] ~ Creates three illusory copies of the user and prevents attacks targeting the user from connecting. When attacking, these illusory copies amplify damage by half, creating an attack power of more than 2.5 if all illusions are present. An illusion is banished at the end of any turn where the user is targeted by an attack, even an attack that normally would not hit.
- Pikachu (Rachel) [Thunder Swarm] ~ Creates a thunderstorm that attracts dozens of Pikachus. Deals powerful electric type damage and high paralysis chances to random enemies. Let the lightning crash down!
- Magnezone (Rachel) [Magnet Crush] ~ Locks down all metal Pokémon and objects used by the enemy and renders them unable to act or otherwise unusable (Steel type Pokémon, metal Slayer weapons and metal improvised weapons). When Rachel shouts "Drop your weapons!", you don't get a choice but to comply...unless you use wooden or stone weapons, you old-school pussies.
- Lopunny (Lola) [Sexy Party] ~ Uses Helping Hand on all allies. The more allies with her, the more effective this crucial table turner is!
- Chimecho (Lola) [Heavenly Chime] ~ Uses Safeguard, Light Screen and Reflect on the user and two other targets. A great move to kick off a tough battle. Just another way that Lola shows how much she loves keeping people alive.

Pokémon Snagger Upgrades

New Pokémon Upgrade!: Leader Pokémon Number Increase ~ Increases the number of Leader Pokémon (Pokémon that can have six moves instead of just four) by one. Snaggers now have two leader Pokémon.

New Power!: Trainer Attack ~ The Pokémon Snagger uses a weapon of sorts (or not) and attacks a single target. Available every turn. Power, accuracy, and other effects are determined by the context (the weapon/s available on your person or in the environment). Weapons available in the environment will be noted at the start of the battle. The Snagger is not exposed to danger by attacking, so the Snagger isn't in any additional danger by helping his Pokémon with a little personal assistance.

Snag Ball Upgrade!: Effect Choice ~ Grants the Snagger the ability to choose what negative status effect a thrown Snag Ball gives the targeted Pokémon when it doesn't catch the target. Poison, Sleep, Confusion, Frozen, or Paralysis are all available for each and every Snag Ball.

[Geminex]

Ok... so now Menarker'll be posting his thread and then off we go to celebrate?

[Astral Harmony]

Upgrades are now available, two posts above this one. No choices, each class gets all the upgrades granted to that class.

I will start a new thread for Renny's Sidequest. My post will be brief and then Menarker can take it from there. You all can more or less socialize amongst yourselves and ask the NPCs stuff which I'll answer when I have time to post. You can start PvPs amongst yourselves if you like and whatnot.

I'll start posting that now...j-...just as soon as I can get my eyes off the first post in this thread.

[Geminex]

Nice. Ruin weapons will be very fun. What slot does it go in? Heavy?
I'll always be wearing Ruin armor from now on... unless we're fighting only Faynoc, and even then...

Though one more thing, at the start of mission two, didn't you say you were thinking of making up some more accessories that'd give Slayers stats boosts over time, so they'd be "more dangerous, the longer a battle goes"? Cause I was really looking forwards to that.

[Astral Harmony]

Ah, sorry 'bout that. The Ricewood Rifle will be a medium weapon. It's kinda bulky, but not particularly heavy and is easy to lift, aim, and fire.

My mind didn't have anything thought up when I started typing up random upgrades that came to mind, but I will try to remember this kind of stuff for the future.

EDIT: There, my mistake is fixed. Now to post.

[Geminex]

:(
"The future"?
What kind of future? The "I'll edit the post in a minute and give you the upgrades you so richly deserve" future? Or the "Wait till next mission you greedy bastard, do you think I'm made of upgrades?" future?

Also, does this mean that Lola will be yelling "Sexy party!" in the future?

Edit: Ok, I'm signing off for today, as I'm afraid that doing anything else will be accompanied by profanity, and freezing arrogance. I sorta see the logic behind Renny getting picked as leader of the Watchmen, but god motherfucking dammit. Why?

[Astral Harmony]

The after Mission Three future. Satisfied? No? Well tough shit.

Not only will Lola be shouting "Sexy Party!", but she may on occasion act like Stewie from Family Guy.

Lola: "This calls for a sexy party!"
*Lola and a bunch of random sexy woman in bikinis run around at random while some kind of party music plays*
Impact: "Okay, I'll bite. How does this give me Helping Hand?"
Pierce: "I don't know, but it makes me want to do something with my hand."

And so what if Renny's the leader? You're the sequel's antagonist! Do you have any comprehension of how many sexy, evil female servants that'll net you, Devil Lord Impact? And I'm not even counting the succubi!

[Geminex]

Ok, rage is under control.
I guess I shoulda seen this coming.

But dammit, I've been putting effort into this. All those times when Impact "restrained himself" or quieted the "insidious voice"? All those times when he feigned worry, or chose not to put his teammates in danger? All those times (and I haven't counted, but it feels like every second post) I made him do that? Yeah. Wonder why. Hell, everything I had planned for my demonic upgrades was political in the long term, but really focused on him leading in the short term.

And sure, if there's a sequel, Impact'll be the antagonist. And that's fucking awesome. But I'm 90% sure that I won't be playing Impact. Uni starts for me in October, and while I'll see this through to the end, I will not be making the commitment of joining that one, if only for reasons of time. I'm really happy to have him included in the sequel, mind you. But that'll be Impact. This'll be me. And yes, I do take these things far too personally, but that's what keeps me motivated.

Another... factor is that you had Rayleen decide on a leader at all. You seemed fairly determined to grant people their autonomy so far! I mean yes, Renny and me got to lead last mission, but I was under the impression that that was temporary that, the rest of the team'd get their chance in the following mission, we'd all prove ourselves, and that we'd decide then.

And really, that's what annoys me most. We didn't get to choose. The reason I had Impact put all that effort into getting into everyone's good books, the reason I plotted how to best get charlotte on my side, tried to make deals with drac, tried to seem kind and human to Renny, was that I had assumed that their support would be necessary for Impact to be leader. Now being told that the Character with the least experience and really, for all that hugging, not much likability, is boss and that's that? No consulting with us? He didn't have to put any effort in? The only thing he has going for him is he had shown competence, and Pierce and Impact have that as well.

And finally, I really don't know what Impact's reaction to this would be. The most IC thing I can think of is that while everyone else is at the party, he'll place a proximity mine in Renny's locker, pay a hitman to dispatch Rayleen, raid the armory and quit the watchmen, and, most likely, Homnyr.

Won't do that, of course, but seriously, what's he supposed to do? He's livid, that's for sure. The most logical course of action right now would be that he goes directly to the Kimonos, and asks if he can work with them on this project. That'd put him outside Renny's influence, still allow him to fight the threat and give him the opportunity of gaining demonic power.

To clarify, I'm not pissed that Renny got leader. If he'd outmaneuvered Impact, outfought him, gained everyone's favor and proven himself to be a better tactician, if he'd qualified himself for leadership, and really earned this, I'd have absolutely no problem. Impact would, but I wouldn't. But like I said, I've put effort into this, Impact certainly has, and now to learn that he really didn't have a chance, that annoys me. I'm not demanding that Impact be made leader instead of Renny, that'd just be a dick-move. But if every player were at the very least given a chance, that'd be nice.

Yes, it is incredibly juvenile, debating this, and I guess it does show that I place far too much emphasis on this RP. But, for now, I'm still rather pissed. I might sleep it off, might not. We'll see, I guess. ^^

TL;DR:
http://i40.tinypic.com/2mg439l.jpg
Says it all. ^^

[Menarker]

Well, I was presently quite suprised to learn about the updates. ^^ Divide looks like it'll be awesome to use with moves that don't rely on attack power like Toxic and Confuse Ray making non-direct attack pokemons like my Umbreon more capable of holding their own in multi-target combat.

Then I read AB's post and do a complete spit take on me being the leader. "THAT WASN'T THERE WHEN I WENT TO BED!" ^^; Totally unrequested and unexpected. But yeah, very odd. And now I feel scared... Gem's rant and all that. ^^;

[Dracorion]

And what the hell do you mean Renny is the only good-aligned PC? What the hell is Pierce, a sack of potatoes? He's totally good-aligned! I mean, hell. Not only are Pierce's issues going to be resolved soon, they're only there for the sake of conflict! Because y'know, characters that are always nice, infallible, strong, and all around perfect are just booooooooooring.

Man, Pierce is gonna be pissed. Well, not a pissed as Impact, but pissed enough because he thinks Renny is fucking annoying.

By the way, he talk about torturing Matthias and Impact? All me. Pierce ain't got nothin' to do with it.

[Geminex]

I'm guessing divide would halve the accuracy of moves you use it with.

And oh, was that supposed to be justification for making Renny leader? He's good-aligned, pure? But that's OOC knowlege. Rayleen wouldn't be aware of the other characters'... dark sides. If I hadn't told you what Impact's thinking, he'd be a fairly nice guy.

[Menarker]

By the way, aren't trainers supposed to get their 6th pokemon or something? Maybe that's for another update, although I was slightly counting on it. :3

I'd be glad to trade in "Trainer Attack" for it since it's kinda out of place for Renny to be directly fighting at the moment. He's small and doesn't have weapon training and it's not quite in his temperment to be personally wielding weapons.

[Dracorion]

Don't change the subject.

[Geminex]

AB's crushin' all our dreams tonight, man. We've got the upgrade blues.

And actually, I've reconsidered some of what I've said up there. Impact would probably stay fairly calm and rational. No proximity mines, or assassins. He'd probably even keep working on getting the rest of the people on his side, perhaps up to the point where he can make Renny take a back seat. And even if he's subordinate professionally, he'd build up the connections privately.

So yeah, if it goes through like this, probably nothing too major would happen IC. I To Impact, getting leadership this early would've been an unexpected bonus, and, really, his intention would have been to work his way up the ranks, with being given orders by trainers being an assumed risk.

I would still be extremely, extremely annoyed... but I'd deal, yes?

[Menarker]

:gonk:

Oh god, I didn't expect this.

[Geminex]

I'm actually playing with the thought of having Impact formally challenge the promotion. Demand a vote... That might be... fun.

[Dracorion]

Pierce is going to start a whole fucking revolt.

Starting with getting Renny kicked as leader and ending with a complete takeover of Honmyr.

Or maybe I'll just be indignant and Pierce will be annoyed.

[Menarker]

Well, looks like my reign will be brief but eventful... (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0116.html)

Anyhow to sum up:

1: Chance to chat up Kimonos
2: Chance to go PvP... I fear someone is going to challenge Renny as a sort of test to confirm whether he's good enough as leader.
3: Warning that fire types moves might not be very good idea in excess or used recklessly.
4: List of friendly pokemons include Snorlax, Butterfree, Electrode and several Shuckles.

Questions to be asked or just rush to the van and save the questions for our lovely ladies in mini-yukatas.

[Geminex]

One compromise both myself and Impact would be willing to make is, Renny gets to lead until Impact's sidequest (I thought we could make that after the arena mission), once Impact gets mind control he takes over PATCA, or, at the very least, the squad. Preferrably PATCA, though.

That is, if the formal challenge wouldn't work...

[Dracorion]

Pierce is gonna wanna PVP with Shizuka for a bit.

Then, if Renny's available, Pierce'll duel him.

[Geminex]

Hey, Pierce. Following offer: You let Impact duel Shizuka first, I'll have Impact lend you his sword.

[Dracorion]

... What the hell good is a sword gonna do Pierce? He's still up against a super-strong super-fast ninja chick.

[Geminex]

Better than a knife. Besides, if he really wants to fight Shizuka in the end, getting beaten with a sword now fill fit narrative casualty far better.

[Dracorion]

I'm pretty sure against Shizuka, sword or knife makes no difference. Sure, it's more appropriate with the sword...

But I just don't trust ya, Gem!

[Geminex]

Oh come on. "Don't trust me"? Why not? I'm trustworthy! Impact isn't but how am I going to betray you? Just not have Impact give Pierce the sword? That wouldn't be nice. And I'm saving all my not-being-nice for Renny.

Edit: And I just realized how appropriate the thread title is. This should be fun.

[Dracorion]

More like we never actually reached an agreement before (except for you slightly retconning Pierce's opinion), so I don't trust you not to hijack the rivalry by having the first go.

[Geminex]

Then let's reach one now! You have Pierce support Impact when it's sufficiently IC and plausible (for all your "good characters write themselves", you have some degree of control over what he does, and I want that control to swing in Impact's favor more often than not) and I'll give you the entirety of the rivalry. No claim, nothing. Or just vote for me in the upcoming election.

And now stop distracting me, I'm sabotaging Renny.

[Dracorion]

In my defense, I never said Pierce was a good character. I was just repeating what Bard said.

But yeah, well. See, Pierce would continue to "support" Impact as he has so far, doing what Impact says because Pierce has no better idea, making suggestions when he has to like back at the bank, and doing his own thing when he believes Impact is wrong (he wouldn't try to give orders unless he's got a strategy that he thinks is better than Impact's for the whole team).

Buuuuuuut. I can't see him giving up his bid for leadership. Not until he can trust Impact or Renny or whoever else gets picked.

[Geminex]

Indeed. I've been considering that. I can't nominate three people... So, Pierce and Impact, or Renny and Impact? I was gonna do the latter, but I'm still thinking. The good thing about Renny's character, is that laying claim to leadership the way Impact or Pierce would, that's be OOC. I think, anyway. If it was Renny or Impact, I was hoping Pierce'd go Impact, but I hadn't considered that he might protest altogether... Humm...

Edit: My one advantage is that at the start of the mission, Dante said Matt would favor Impact... hope that hasn't changed...

[Dracorion]

Trust Pierce but support Impact, he said.

I assume he'd vote for Impact, but I'm kinda hoping Dante will throw me a bone here.

[Bard The 5th LW]

These are a few interesting developments. I gotta say that Charlotte's reaction to all of this is probably, 'The half-pint is our leader now? That's cute. No, that's downright adorable.'

More or less, while Pierce and Impact angst about it, Charlotte doesn't care, because she knows that as long as she stays within certain bounds (attack the enemies), then Renny's orders can be damned.

[Dracorion]

See, Matt has to vote for Pierce, because Charlotte would obviously vote for Impact.

[Geminex]

Yes, but Impact worked on getting Charlotte on his side! By which he meant, he was kinda-sorta-nice to her and let her join in on the Gendom-kill. Pierce did nothing to deserve Matt's vote. Besides, I'm guessing Renny'd vote for Pierce, so why would Matt "have" to?

Edit:
I mean, I'm sure he'll relish having power through this vote, and he'll use it in the most manipulative manner he can.

[Dracorion]

Oooh. I guess it comes down to whoever Matt thinks is least likely to be corrupt.

Yeah, I wasn't really counting Renny.

I wonder if the NPCs will get a vote too. And who they'd vote for.

[Menarker]

UMBRAL PLAYERS:


Menarker (Renny Tresserhorn) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015554&postcount=23)

Dracorion (Pierce Granger) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015686&postcount=29)

Geminex (Ray Green:Impact) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015565&postcount=25)

Bard (Charlotte Beaufort: Madame Ursurang) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015435&postcount=14)

DanteFalcon (Matthias Sona: Oberon) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015494&postcount=19)

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[Geminex]

Not necessarily. His support for Impact was based on competence, not likelihood of corruption. And besides, you're thinking of Matt here. He might look at corruption. I'm thinking of Dantefalcon. And sure as hell, Dante'll be sitting there, evil grin on his lips, contemplating how to use the fact that he's pretty much a swing-state with wings.

Edit: Very nice, Menarker. Combobreaker. And yes, they are. I'll post within the hour, and it'll all go to voting hell.

[Menarker]

I imagine Rayleen might still suggest Renny would be the leader for this mission being that its his home, family and family's pokemon. Knowing the terrain and people utmost makes perfect sense for why Renny would be leading this particular mission.

Other missions? Yeah, I could foresee it.

But of course, feel free to protest or call for a vote or such, although I imagine the party mood might sour... although to Impact and Pierce, they apparently already have. :3

[DanteFalcon]

I already know who Matt would/will vote for.

Nope I'm not saying here because I'm a jerk. Enjoy your speculation.

[Geminex]

"Feel free"? Thanks. Though I intended to do so in the first place...

I'd be ok with Renny leading this mission, it'd be cool for characters to take the lead when it's their mission. But in general? Like I said, I think it's neither justified that you or Renny should gain this. I'll try to stop it both IC and OOC, and if both fail I'll still be really, really... irritated. And you won't like me when I'm irritated.

Post is almost done, just one more thing. BGM. Any suggestions?

[Bard The 5th LW]

The Final Countdown

Not giving a link, find it yourself, you have 10 fingers that aren't broken. Presumably.

[Dracorion]

Remember, a vote for Impact is a vote for communism!

[Geminex]

Found something better, actually. Besides, I assumed we were saving "final countdown" for some really epic battle.

Edit:
Remember, a vote for Impact is a vote for communism!
Hey, fuck you, Mister Capitalist. Don't make me call Psychological Torture Man to fight your despicable tendency to live off the sweat of the common worker.

Edit2: Post is up. WALL OF TEXT. Have fun reading, and goodnight. Oh, and make sure to turn on the music before he starts talking. Link's at the bottom.
I'd threaten you all what'll happen if you don't vote for Impact, but that'd be counterproductive. So I will say that Impact intends to introduce special uniforms for all female squad members. It will save money, by using as little cloth as possible. And he'll have the canteen serve cookies every day!

[Dracorion]

So I will say that Impact intends to introduce special uniforms for all female squad members. It will save money, by using as little cloth as possible. And he'll have the canteen serve cookies every day!

Pff. Cloth? Please. Pierce will ensure that all female uniforms are see-through lingerie.

By the way? Rachel is one of the original team members.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Pff. Cloth? Please. Pierce will ensure that all female uniforms are see-through lingerie.

Fuck you, you aren't taking Charlotte's coat.

[Dracorion]

There will be a special exception made for Charlotte if it earns Pierce her vote.

[Geminex]

Eh. Let's ignore her for now. NPCs will follow anyone, I assume. It's the PCs that are actually relevant. If pressed, Impact'll just say something along the lines of "Everyone except for us five is registered as "support personell", not squad members". I'm hoping AB'd go along with that.

And Menarker, can we just have the vote now? Everyone's psyched up, I've added BGM for god's sake. Impact's fine with letting you lead this mission, but I'd really like to get this over with here and now. M'kay?

Though, of course, AB could step in at any time and have Rayleen break us up. I'm hoping he won't, this is IC, and it's fun, but just a remind to people: This isn't actually official. Yet. I'm hoping it will be, but we don't know.

Edit: Also, free revolvers for all trainers. You get two if you have dog pokemon.

[Menarker]

Well, I'm just saying in character. :3

If you guys want to shout out votes before Rayleen responds or so, then give it a try.

But do note that I (and Renny) already noticed that you put two nominations and perhaps Rayleen too, so I would wonder why supplant Renny entirely when you could compromise with her choice and one other leader, such as yourself.

Also entirely possible that someone might claim that Renny did have a gist of demostrating leadership in the past mission (such as Rachel or Lola since Rachel was the one who said that Renny would be leader for his group and Lola was present the entire time and Rachel reports to Rayleen.)

Renny also suggested an anonymous vote. Rayleen could suggest that instead of having people publicly raise their hands or vote opinons which might lead to peer pressure or scorn, the classic paper ballot. Could be done OOC by PMing AB with your choice (so we can play mind-fuck games with each other on who to vote and have total freedom on who to vote), then AB posts what everyone voted in the discussion thread so the respective person can affirm or reject that was the person they chosen. (So AB doesn't get the exclusive excess to the votes, BM style like when he tried to vote Fighter away.)

[Dracorion]

Charlotte is, heh, appointed Pierce's second-in-command. She doesn't have to actually deal with the responsibility, but she can carry an arsenal with her for all Pierce cares. Plus? A giant room full of different Ursaring coats. Shiny, red, blue, orange, you name it, it's there and it's all real.

EDIT: But do note that I (and Renny) already noticed that you put two nominations and perhaps Rayleen too, so I would wonder why supplant Renny entirely when you could compromise with her choice and one other leader, such as yourself.

Renny would likely win. Pierce and Rayleen and perhaps Matt vote for him, Charlotte and perhaps Matt vote for Impact. And Rayleen wins because she's the boss.

Also entirely possible that someone might claim that Renny did have a gist of demostrating leadership in the past mission (such as Rachel or Lola since Rachel was the one who said that Renny would be leader for his group and Lola was present the entire time and Rachel reports to Rayleen.)

No one said Renny didn't show good leadership. But who hasn't?

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Menarker
Also entirely possible that someone might claim that Renny did have a gist of demostrating leadership in the past mission (such as Rachel or Lola since Rachel was the one who said that Renny would be leader for his group and Lola was present the entire time and Rachel reports to Rayleen.)


No one said Renny didn't show good leadership. But who hasn't?


If he were in any way qualified, if he had proven his capacity for leadership before, that'd be acceptable. But this does appear rather arbitrary.

I was remarking on Impact's statement that Renny had not proven his capability when he was the leader of a successful group in the just prior mission.

[Geminex]

Renny also suggested an anonymous vote. Rayleen could suggest that instead of having people publicly raise their hands or vote opinons which might lead to peer pressure or scorn, the classic paper ballot. Could be done OOC by PMing AB with your choice (so we can play mind-fuck games with each other on who to vote and have total freedom on who to vote), then AB posts what everyone voted in the discussion thread so the respective person can affirm or reject that was the person they chosen. (So AB doesn't get the exclusive excess to the votes, BM style like when he tried to vote Fighter away.)
If AB's gonna post the votes anyway, we can just say them out loud to begin with. An entirely secret ballot would be interesting, and I think AB's trustworthy enough not to screw Impact over (even more), but public is more practical. And, in this case, more fun.



Renny would likely win. Pierce and Rayleen and perhaps Matt vote for him, Charlotte and perhaps Matt vote for Impact. And Rayleen wins because she's the boss.
Gah. This is supposed to be PCs only, no? Or at least that's what I had hoped for.
And why would Pierce have voted for Renny? Impact may be a manipulative bastard, but at least he never hugged Pierce.

And I don't regret this one bit. This is the most fun I've had with this since we fought the Gendom. Though perhaps I should pre-emptively apologize to AB.
...
Yeah, I should definitely apologize to AB.

Edit:I was remarking on Impact's statement that Renny had not proven his capability when he was the leader of a successful group in the just prior mission.
What Drac said still applies. Renny showed he was a good leader. But so did Impact. And even Pierce took a shot at it. So why Renny, of all people?

[Dracorion]

Gah. This is supposed to be PCs only, no? Or at least that's what I had hoped for.
And why would Pierce have voted for Renny? Impact may be a manipulative bastard, but at least he never hugged Pierce.

Who's more likely to backstab everyone? Manipulative bastard Impact, or Renny?

Need I remind you that Renny is Renny.

And Rayleen gets a vote if Renny is nominated because she's the one that wanted him to be leader anyway and she's the boss.

[Menarker]

And why would Pierce have voted for Renny? Impact may be a manipulative bastard, but at least he never hugged Pierce.


At least I never seen a hug screw anyone over. Unless it was attached to something else like a signal ala Judas' infamous kiss on the cheek.

If AB's gonna post the votes anyway, we can just say them out loud to begin with. An entirely secret ballot would be interesting, and I think AB's trustworthy enough not to screw Impact over (even more), but public is more practical. And, in this case, more fun.


I meant that people can discuss or debate on who to vote for, but we could end up choosing whomever. Like Matt could make it seem like he would vote for Impact, but really vote for Pierce when he sends the PM to AB (SNEAKY). Otherwise, people might alter their votes if they knew who else was being voted for just because someone posted before the other. With the PM thing, post order doesn't influence anything.

[Astral Harmony]

Look, I have a very tight schedule this morning so I don't have time to read these pages full of wrath. But I can kinda see the main points behind them all.

You want additional upgrades? Fine, I'll do it. I honestly don't care how upgraded someone becomes, as long as they're not disappointed when I run out of ways to upgrade the classes in the future.

Second, Renny is the leader, and what is everyone complaining about? First off, it's not like you're always going to be as one team. Hell, that's what the NPCs are for. The group's going to be pretty split up more than half the time throughout the rest of the story, and that way everyone will get to flex their leadership muscle.

All I can say right now since I don't have time to read anything is that neither Rayleen nor myself played any favorites. Renny's the leader because I think he knows the best ways of utilizing everyone's individual talents. And he can give the right to command to anyone at anytime should the group be separated, which it very often will. He can also give it to anyone if the group is whole and he's just feeling that way.

Impact will be the second-in-command. If Renny's not there, Impact's the head bastard-in-charge. I'm sorry I can't stick around to read your rage and your proposals, but I must be getting ready for work. Just...I dunno, just give me time to try and make things as right as I can, though I know I'll never make it fully right.

And please don't revolt. I'd hate it if Renny was the only player character in the RP.

[Dracorion]

What? Sorry, I wasn't reading. I was thinking about what I'd do after I revolt and take over the RP.

Pierce gets his harem, Renny is downgraded to comedy relief/slave workforce, Impact gets killed by a Weedle.

And come on. We don't really need more upgrades right now. Save 'em for the next mission.

Anyway, I don't think it's so much wrath as indignation. And if we're going to be split up as often as you say, is Renny still always going to be the definite leader? (by the way, next split Renny should be paired up with Impact and Matt, because those three haven't got a chance to interact in a team up close together, which leaves Pierce with Charlotte. Just sayin')

[Menarker]

YES! We're BACK! ^^

Too bad I'm leaving for work RIGHT NOW. Be back soon!

[Dracorion]

It's about freaking time.

Anyway, I finished my made-up legendary and I'm thinking Renny's sidequest might be the best time to catch it. Unless someone else's sidequest takes place in a residential area. Because I can't picture this legendary in someone's pokeball, much less one of Faynoc's guys. Sure, it could be a second sidequest for Pierce, but Iit'd be a really short sidequest consisting of just the one fight because I'm chock out of ideas.

A bit of foreshadowing, mentioning murders in the area of Renny's parents' house would be nice. The victims showing signs ranging from sexual assault to burns to bruises to psychological torture (whatever the signs for that are), and the common link being a gaping hole in their chests where their hearts used to be (yes, this legendary eats your soul through your heart, because it can, and because I'm on a Blackest Night kick). This seems like a day mission, and it usually likes to operate at night, but we can just say it takes advantage of the confusion to get a snack.

Here's the profile:

Dark/Psychic (genderless)

Name: Enmakki

Stats

HP:120
Attack: 80
Defense: 100
Special Attack: 135
Special Defense: 120
Speed: 125
Total: 680

Appearance: Height: 4'0"; Weight: 73.7 lbs
Enmakki is literally a floating blob of darkness. It can shapeshift to become whatever it wants, albeit it'll still look made of darkness. When it has to take an original form, it takes a lion-like form with red eyes and an evil smile.

Personality: For as long as living beings have existed, Enmakki has fed on their souls. It doesn't actually need to eat souls, it just likes the taste. Especially the taste of human souls. Enmakki likes to play with its food before it eats, torturing it's victims with different methods ranging from physical torture to hallucinations to sexual assault, whatever will get the best reaction from the poor soul.

Ability: Magic Guard

HMs: All of them.

Custom Move: Dark Abyss (Status, 100% accuracy, does not make contact) ~ Inflicts Sleep and Nightmare on one target.

The name is tentative.

I've been debating doing kind of like a Diablos from Albert's FFVIII Rewrite kind of thing with it. "HAIL AND WELL MET, GRIEVOUS LORD" is just that awesome.

By the way, it can use Spore. Why? Because I want it to. We can justify it by saying the spores are just little motes of Enmakki making their way into the target's body and putting them to sleep.

[Geminex]

Sigh.

Very well, do what you will. I have stopped caring.

Though if it were a matter of pure... competence, I would gladly challenge Renny. Not in a standard PVP, mind you, there's not much strategy involved there, but a simulated situation with equal amounts of assets. Say, a 6v6? Thing is, what I've seen from Renny/Menarker so far is that they know a lot about the pokemon games and apply that well, but really, not a lot of planning, not all that much efficient resource allocation. I'm probably biased here, of course, and I said I didn't care, which I'll stick to. I'm fine with anything you do. But if we wanted an actual test, that is what I'd propose.

And if Renny's gonna be leader, I'd recommend that we retcon everything so he's older than 16. Because no matter how you approach it, that just doesn't work. I'd say 18 at the very least, and perhaps this can be his 19th birthday party.

Edit: And in regards to Drac's being of horror, perhaps the victims have also clawed their own eyeballs out. Hard to show psychological torture, otherwise.
Nice stats, by the way. Very nice. Bug types will rape you, though. Watch out for swarms of heracross. And I wouldn't give it spore. That'd be imbalanced. Spore was sorta nintendo's way of saying sorry for giving parasect shitty stats. And yes, shroomish could learn it too, but it had to put off evolving until level 47. And it's not thematically appropriate either. And besides, if you pokemon's moveset is specialized on killing sleeping opponents, giving it a 100% accuracy sleep attack would make things too easy, I feel.

But that's just my two cents...


So, what did everyone do during their pokemon-less time? I did a lot of reading and replayed pokemon ruby. Yes, not the newest, but I didn't want to start a new game in Pearl. My PC is named Asshat (after the great Asshat of times gone by), I have a Ninjask named Pirate and a male Gardevoir. Which I named "Whitney" anyway. Because fuck looking for another Ralts.

... Yeah, it's that kind of game.

Though abuse of the nickname system aside, I just beat the elite for with a team of 3 level 45s, and a non-trained Groudon, which is pretty good (I thought, anyway). Went through 20 hyper potions along the way, but that's ok. Swords dance/baton pass ninjask=Love. It dies a lot, but if you do it right you only get hit once, and then baton pass a two-stage attack boost and 1-stage speed boost to your physical sweeper. Which, in my case, was Blaziken. Pure love.

[Menarker]

Well, Drac, your best bet would be to catch it during the potential "sleepover" part of the party when it for some reason preys on the sleeping Snorlax. Other than that, no known murders or crimes in Renny's location which is technically a short drive away from "civilization", so it's a semi-rural home.

Also, some in-game reasons why Renny would have been chosen by Rayleen.
1: Shows high degree of competence (like the rest of you).
2: Showed professionalism in some other way. While Impact said that Renny's hugs and optimism goes poorly on his "resume", Rachel and other witnesses might believe that the other members berating and causing a scene regarding Shannon in the previous mission to be just as bad if not worse (Poor Rachel practically had to scream and shout to shut everyone up and calm them down). That Renny behaves in his particular way seem to be a boon since they helped make former enemies much more amiable toward the group. (Assume that Rachel/Lola/Shannon passed this info on to Rayleen given her absence.)
3: I'm just making a conjecture here, but given how Shannon seem to be favorable to Renny and likewise by association, her boyfriend Moon might be favorable to him and that Evanganlee is also joining in the mission as well (which I didn't expect), I figured that most of the "Evil Eevee Eight" have approved of Renny and don't mind him as a leader. The fact that they might have approved of him may be significant if they wouldn't listen to the others very much given the sort of ill will and treatment that they had been given, and Rayleen might think that since they'll follow Renny, more resources is more resources.

Also, Geminex, think of this as your mind control being approved already perhaps. :3 What's the point of having Mind Control if you already got the "reward" given to you already? Once you got that ability, the scene would shift more in your favor as you have the chance to actually show if you're talented and clever enough to use the power effectively. ^,^

And Damn, that Enmakki has such high base stats. If that gets approved, I'm going to have to consider making a pokemon with base stats equal to that. I know I got a "legendary" already, but her power is technically equal to a psuedo legendary, and with a type that is considered to be weak.

I'll consider the age ret-con... but not having the party the same day as the birthday. But yeah, 18 is still pretty young, barely an adult.

Also: Renny will be riding Togekiss on the way to the house, guiding the van driving you guys to the estate.

EDIT: Also! Personality fleshing! Butterfree and Electrode have their little quirks, but Snorlax is special in the family.

Snorlax: His behavior is very much like most of his kinds, in that he loves to eat and sleep. However, when dealing with those he REALLY cares about, Snorlax is like the combination of Dionysus and a genie! A passionate love for food, drinks, and resting, he shares his hedonistic glory with others. Family member asked him for a drink? He probably might end up giving you a full blown milkshake instead of just water. Need help with grocery shopping? He'll gladly lift up a crapload of stuff in antipication of the dinner that might come. He'll eat hard, party hard, sleep hard and "bend over backward" (well, as much as a fatty like Snorlax can) to make his family enjoy the experience too.

[Dracorion]

Well, I liked Enmakki having 680 points because it puts it on par with Mewtwo, , Lugia, Ho-Oh, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. Basically, one of the higher-end legendaries.

It would suck, but I suppose I could drop it to like 670, 660, 650 or 640. Preferably 670.

But I'd rather wait for AB's opinion.

And damnit, I knew Pierce being a jerk to Shannon was going to come back to bite me. If it helps, he took it back almost immediately. And, considering his background, he didn't really mean it.

And really, why can't there be some murders in the area? It'd provide an alternate reason for the team to go there, and justify why anyone would stay for a sleepover, what's wrong with that?

EDIT: And Geminex, I really really want Enmakki to have Spore. I mean, it's not like legendaries don't get to pick moves from a large variety of types. But I realize with Enmakki and Dialga on the way, Pierce's team is in danger of getting too overpowered. I mean, he'd end up with Tyranitar, Blaziken, Metagross, Nagarai, Enmakki and Dialga. That's three pseudo-legendaries, two legendaries and a Blaziken. If not Spore, can it at least get Dark Void?

[Menarker]

I agree to wait until AB post. You'd never know. ^^ I don't mind if your individual pokemons are that high in power as long as I get somewhat of a chance too, even though I'm intentionally putting a self-restriction on myself. (Only the 6 pokemon I choose and none other unless they get captured or otherwise unusable.) And it helps that there is a precedent given how Slaking is not legendary but pretty close in power (although it has quite a drawback to it). Although yes, your team does look very much like a deliberate attempt to be excessively power packed. :3

Pierce may not have meant what he said and he may have apologized but in character, Rachel and the others don't know that he didn't mean it, and that only Renny (out of the PCs) behaved "professionally" or at least tried to calm the situation. Of course, this is mainly a conjecture of mine, even though it would make sense to me.

On a side note, I had an interesting daydream about a week ago about a future mission.
Fayoc's organization decides to cause havoc again, but this time causing four ruin generals to operate. Two, water and flying, would operate over the oceans. And the other two, fire and ground (rock perhaps as a substitute) inside or above a volcano far away from the other location. The general idea being that if the team chooses to split up, then two generals would make them hell. If they left one alone, then the other would succeed in their plan. To make matter worse, perhaps the situation is so dire that either of them succeeding means that they both win. The team would have to split up, figure out how to divide the team and how to fight.
The water/wind team would have a significant disadvantage due to having no stable surface (except perhaps a boat which we better hope doesn't get sunk) and that only pokemon that can dive/surf can be able to fight underwater for prolonged periods of time and only flying pokemons or those with high accuracy or sky-hitting attacks would be able to fight the flying general. The fire and ground team would probably have their own sets of problems (cave-ins, heat and all that).
Both teams would end up encountering some legendary pokemons (Lugia for the water team and Ho-oh for the fire team, maybe a few others.) And I imagine some of the Kimonos would show some promise. (Especially the android catgirl who may or may not have jetpacks or rocket boots to fight in the air.)

If something like this DOES happen, I would call dibs on the water/air team by virtue of having two flying pokemons if you count Shaymin's flying form, an electric type which is super effective on both of them, a water pokemon which can fight the water type... and Umbreon is really small, so it could feasibly ride the surfer or flyer. :3

BONUS points for if the trainers have to ride their surfer or flying pokemons during combat to chase after the ruin general. Hell, for a moment, I thought of Renny riding Togekiss, Pierce riding Skarmory and Charlotte riding Aerodactyl in a sort of Alpha swoop all doing attacks like Wind Slash, Brave Bird, Sky Attack and all that. :3

Ah well, quite the daydream. ^,^

EDIT: Pierce, in regards to the murder idea... I said no "known murders". ^.~
The family would be silly and stupid to buy a home in a location that was known for rampant violence.

As for why a sleep over? You'll see. :3

EDIT: Any particular reason why this pokemon is capable of all the HMs? Even Mewtwo and other legendaries had various limitations on HMs. For this pokemon, I can easily imagine Rock Smash, Cut, Flash, Defog and perhaps Rock Climb. But the other moves seem out of place. I know your pokemon is a bit of a shapeshifter like Ditto, but somehow, I thought it was more for the intimidation and not so much functional in terms of granting it abilities of other types.

[Dracorion]

Pierce wouldn't be much use in either fight, type-wise. If he still doesn't have Dialga, he'd have Kingdra for the fire/ground fight, and Aria for the water fight. Dialga and Metagross would get slaughtered in fire, Tyranitar and Blaziken in water. While he'd still have Starmie, Skarmory and (possibly) Kingdra in storage, I can't see Pierce switching his team around much. Tyranitar, Blaziken, Nagarai, Metagross, Enmakki and Dialga are pretty much his permanent team members.

Although he'd probably vote to be in whichever team didn't have Renny. Because Pierce still finds Renny mildly annoying and I'd rather have Pierce and Impact butt heads.

The murders would have taken place recently, as in the last week, so if Renny's parents have been living in the place for a while they may not want to move, since it hasn't happened to them or their neighbors. Hell, they could take precautions against robbers/murderers and pokemon, but they wouldn't work because this is a legendary.

As for Enmakki's HMs, at first I didn't give it any. But then I realized there's no reason why it couldn't turn into a bird and flap away any fog, or fly, or turn into a big pokemon and smash a rock, since that's what HMs are outside of battle. In battle, it'd use Transform.

We could just give it no HMs initially and just take the HMs available to whatever it transforms into.

The reasoning for Pierce's permanent team is: Tyranitar for being Pierce's favorite pokemon, closest friend, possible gay partner, and whatnot. Blaziken for being Tyranitar's life partner, Aria for being effective against Ruin-types, Metagross because it proved itself during the mansion mission, Enmakki and Dialga for being badass legendaries.

[Geminex]

I think Dark Void would be fine, and hell, I have no authority. I don't want to spoil your fun, I won't complain if you get spore. Maybe not call it spore, though. Same effects as spore, but maybe make it dark type, just a bit more appropriate. Not sure what you'd call the attack, but I'll leave that up to you. Nobody uses HMs in combat anyway, so get as many as you like, I guess.

Though one thought.

Darkrai has the "terrorize people in their dreams" thing down already. But from how you've described Enmakki, I could totally imagine it going for a general "Mindrape" style of battle. Dream eater and whatever variation of spore can be part of its moveset, but if you're creative, I'm sure you could come up with some other stuff. Like, instead of "Bad Dreams", why not give it, say, "Mockery": Enmakki turns into a grotesque parody of its current target, the target's stats get reduced across the board. Your "spore" variation could be the whole "Psychologically Mutilate your target" bit, Enmaki terrorizes the target so thoroughly that they fall into a sort of dark Coma. When they're in this coma, that's when Enmaki can take their souls, with its variation of "Dream eater".

Hell, while we're at it, it can be attracted to the Scythetip that Impact brought along, tries to ambush their orgy sleepover.

As for being overpowered, there's always time for balancing later. And by "balancing" I mean "SLAYER UPGRADES, FUCK YEAH".

As for Menarker's daydream... Doesn't sound that excellent. First of all, we'd need one hell of a support team to take on four Generals and their forces, secondly, the whole "split the party, visit two thematically appropriate dungeons, strike heroic killing blows!" idea doesn't appeal that much. Bit too melodramatic.

...

And the only one who gets to be melodramatic is me.

But let's wait for AB's opinion.

[Menarker]

Yes, AB opinion. The part of my daydream that struck me as awesome was the twist in the water/air bit where the trainers and perhaps the support members would need to rely on their pokemons not just for attacking but for their very own survival. Like how Renny wouldn't be able to give orders to his pokemon if they were fighting too high in the sky, or if they were fighting an underwater general, they would have to hope their pokemon can protect them from drowning if they got knocked off the boat for example.

You ever played Seikenku Densetsu? That battle where the heros fought the Wind Beast by riding the dragon Flammie and fighting an airborne battle? Kinda a bit like that. :3

But I do think the daydream isn't the best idea. But like I said, just something that came up to me. :3

[Dracorion]

You want me to make up, like, four different skills for Enmakki?

Jesus Christ man, I had to spend like, a whole twenty minutes just to come up with the bastard.

Sure, I could come up with variations of Dream Eater and Spore, but they'd end up doing the exact same thing, so what's the point?

Also, no to Mockery. I want Enmakki to be able to fight in it's "cloud of darkness" form, not transform straight off the bat like an ability like Mockery would do.

EDIT: You know what we need? Specific opportunies for specific characters to be badass. Like, say, a back-to-back corridor battle with Pierce and Impact facing down endless hordes of pokemon on both sides. Just imagine:

Impact: Tch. We really stepped in it now.
Pierce: What, you can't handle this many? Pussy.
Impact: And you can?
Pierce: Hell yeah.
Impact: Well, I'm not losing to you. Not to a filthy coward that hides behind beasts.
Pierce: (Maniacal laugh, runs off to kill shit) AHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Pierce would of course be a Battle Master by then, and without his pokemon for some reason.

Charlotte would get a badass kick-the-dog moment. If my example isn't enough for Impact, he can have one after he gets mind control where everything goes perfectly and he accomplishes something big (perhaps his takeover of the world, but probably not). Not sure about Renny or Matthias.

[Geminex]

If my example isn't enough for Impact, he can have one after he gets mind control where everything goes perfectly and he accomplishes something big (perhaps his takeover of the world, but probably not).
We will assume that his takeover of Homnyr will be positively punctuated by crowning moments of awesome.
But one that I'll actually write...
*grin*
There's a character I'm thinking of... Female... Badass, rather... but oh-so-very... impudent. Impudent enough to promote a trainer over Impact.

I assume that Rayleen will fight with us in whatever final battle we'll face. Impact will fight by her side. He will make sure of that.
...
Rayleen will perish heroically. Or so it will appear.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I just got back from camping and I'm thrilled to see this back! :D I was worried this might die. I wouldn't be too depressed about the other RPs going, but this one has a special place in my heart.

Anyways, I hyave nothing important to say for now, so I'll probably be a bit silent until AB makes another update.

[Menarker]

You said it. ^^ Very successful and engaging. The drama both in and out of the RP is awesome.

And of course, the fanservice. ^___________________^ *Lusty grin*

I hope AB knows that the website URL is a bit different now and that he isn't just trying to reload the page from favorites every time. You think one of us should send him an email?

[Bard The 5th LW]

I just went and sent the email.Included the new URL. Posting just so all of us don't go ahead and do it.

[Dracorion]

I don't think it's so much that he doesn't know about the new forums.

I think yesterday may have been his duty day.

[Geminex]

What does duty for him involve anyway?

Also, I just realized: This RP had an honest-to-god, non-intentional cliffhanger. When I got up in the morning to see what the reactions to Impact's coup/call for democracy had been, I got the accursed error screen. I could practically hear an announcer's voice in the back of my head, going: "Will Impact get the votes he needs? Will Rayleen intervene? How will Faynoc's agents strike? Will Pierce finally confess his undying love for Tyranitar? Find out next time, on Pokemon Umbral!"

Also, we need some kind of crazy, wacky battle where this is BGM:
http://snoopkirby2.ytmnd.com/
Because I'd actually have an excuse to continuously play it.

[Dracorion]

Beats the hell out of me.

The value of the cliffhanger is diminished because AB already told us that Renny's staying leader.

Though who knows, maybe he changed his mind during downtime.

[Geminex]

I didn't know that. I signed off right after I answered Menarker. I didn't get my hopes up, though I did spend an hour trawling various websites to see if I couldn't find out what the conclusion had been.

So for me? Massive cliffhanger.

Edit: And I don't think that AB'll change his mind. And that's fine.

...

So, who would everyone have voted for? Tell me.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I choked a little laughing at that link. I'm going to have to keep it running for another 30 minutes. Maybe favorite it.

And I think AB once said that he keeps machinery working or something. Not sure, twas a while ago.

And you can be assured Charlotte is taping this entire debate on her new digital camera now, to catch a potential Christian Bale flip-out. Alas, the camera will almost definitely be destroyed at some point during the mission, in a deliberate way to annoy Charlotte.

[Dracorion]

I am so very, very tempted to have Pierce nominate Charlotte as team leader. It would put an end to the debate once and for all.

Though I'm trying to figure out how to justify it. Maybe Pierce thinks it'd be easier to usurp power from Renny? Then again, I'm not sure he'd do that, and he'll assume Impact is better at it than himself anyway.

Anyway, let's try not to post too much. When we do that, AB ends up skimming through the pages and stuff gets unanswered. I know most of this stuff, specifically leadership and everything about Enmakki and Pierce's team, is stuff I'd like AB to get back to me on.

Pierce would've voted for himself, if they went by Impact's nominations. Or Renny, if it came down to a general vote.

[Menarker]

Or maybe the group will figure that Renny is being "promoted above his competence level" and that like the pointy hair boss in Dilbert who was promoted a few steps too high, the real power may very well be in the group. However, since Renny isn't actually dumber than a paperclip but has a very generously open policy, Impact or whomever will push for policies or things to put into action using carefully chosen words thus making it SEEM like Renny is in charge when the reality may not be so.

But yeah, looking forward to AB coming back "Hey bitches! I got some stuff for you guys!". :3

It should be fun!

Also, to answer Geminex's question which AB already answered in a previous thread, AB's job is to maintain equipment especially those that have far outlasted the warrenty or expiration date so as to save the military money instead of having to contantly buy new tools or such. This is what I remember.

[Dracorion]

I would bet money that the bastard will keep us waiting for another day. Probably more. For some reason.

What kinda stuff would he have, anyway? Reassert that Renny's staying leader, answer a few questions. Maybe give the upgrades you all were whining for.

[Geminex]

Also, to answer Geminex's question which AB already answered in a previous thread, AB's job is to maintain equipment especially those that have far outlasted the warrenty or expiration date so as to save the military money instead of having to contantly buy new tools or such. This is what I remember.

Yeah, I know that much. But that's his day-to-day task, isn't it? He does that every day. Whereas he only has "duty" about once a week (or so it seems to me). So what's duty?

Maybe give the upgrades you all were whining for.
Speaking of which, I do have one more request. I'm fine with getting any extra accessories later, but one additional thing would be nice: I'd greatly welcome it if I could carry an additional weapon of any category. Particularly if we're going to be PVPing. Just to make Impact a bit more versatile, in parallel with the trainers getting another two slots for their second leader's moveset.

[Astral Harmony]

Sorry, everyone. I just read the e-mail Bard sent. Y'know, I've been looking for the link to the new NPF and apparently I was struck with temporary retardation.

Unfortunately, it's almost time for me to go to work. Yeah, wonderful time for me to find out about it now, right? Anyways, I'll be back to resume what's going on this afternoon as soon as I get off of work.

I'm just glad we're not in a battle, or picking up where we left off could take all night, heh heh heh.

EDIT: I must say I do like the arrangement of my information in this new forum. Got all my shit to the left of my post instead of all over the place. But it kinda sucks that all my shortcuts are now useless and I'm going to end up going through all my old discussion threads this weekend to find it all.

[Dracorion]

Sorry, everyone. I just read the e-mail Bard sent. Y'know, I've been looking for the link to the new NPF and apparently I was struck with temporary retardation.

Goddamnit.

[Astral Harmony]

*looks downcast while poking index fingers together*

I'm weawwy sowwy...

[Dracorion]

Oh no you don't young lady! You're not getting off that easy.

Now go to your room and don't come out until you've answered every question we've ever asked, even the ones you've already answered.

[Astral Harmony]

Could I get those questions as a list? Not that I won't try to read this discussion thread to make sure I've got everything, but it could certainly help in making sure I haven't missed anything that you sons 'a' bitches wonderful forumites have asked.

[Dracorion]

No, that's part of your punishment.

I'll get around to it if I can.

EDIT: Here goes. All the questions since downtime. You might still want to read up because there was some stuff said about leadership. Of course, you don't have to. But my personal selfish opinion is that you should.

And come on. We don't really need more upgrades right now. Save 'em for the next mission.

Anyway, I don't think it's so much wrath as indignation. And if we're going to be split up as often as you say, is Renny still always going to be the definite leader? (by the way, next split Renny should be paired up with Impact and Matt, because those three haven't got a chance to interact in a team up close together, which leaves Pierce with Charlotte. Just sayin')

Just sayin'.

Link to Enmakki's profile (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1031368&postcount=59) (every paragraph is a question).

And if Renny's gonna be leader, I'd recommend that we retcon everything so he's older than 16. Because no matter how you approach it, that just doesn't work. I'd say 18 at the very least, and perhaps this can be his 19th birthday party.

You should see the rest of this post. It is hilarious.

Well, I liked Enmakki having 680 points because it puts it on par with Mewtwo, , Lugia, Ho-Oh, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. Basically, one of the higher-end legendaries.

It would suck, but I suppose I could drop it to like 670, 660, 650 or 640. Preferably 670.

...

EDIT: And Geminex, I really really want Enmakki to have Spore. I mean, it's not like legendaries don't get to pick moves from a large variety of types. But I realize with Enmakki and Dialga on the way, Pierce's team is in danger of getting too overpowered. I mean, he'd end up with Tyranitar, Blaziken, Metagross, Nagarai, Enmakki and Dialga. That's three pseudo-legendaries, two legendaries and a Blaziken. If not Spore, can it at least get Dark Void?

Menarker's idea (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1031464&postcount=63) (every paragraph is a question).

As for Enmakki's HMs, at first I didn't give it any. But then I realized there's no reason why it couldn't turn into a bird and flap away any fog, or fly, or turn into a big pokemon and smash a rock, since that's what HMs are outside of battle. In battle, it'd use Transform.

We could just give it no HMs initially and just take the HMs available to whatever it transforms into.

Hell, while we're at it, it can be attracted to the Scythetip that Impact brought along, tries to ambush their orgy sleepover.

As for being overpowered, there's always time for balancing later. And by "balancing" I mean "SLAYER UPGRADES, FUCK YEAH".

"It" is Enmakki. UPGRADES, FUCK YEAH.

EDIT: You know what we need? Specific opportunies for specific characters to be badass. Like, say, a back-to-back corridor battle with Pierce and Impact facing down endless hordes of pokemon on both sides. Just imagine:

Impact: Tch. We really stepped in it now.
Pierce: What, you can't handle this many? Pussy.
Impact: And you can?
Pierce: Hell yeah.
Impact: Well, I'm not losing to you. Not to a filthy coward that hides behind beasts.
Pierce: (Maniacal laugh, runs off to kill shit) AHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Pierce would of course be a Battle Master by then, and without his pokemon for some reason.

Charlotte would get a badass kick-the-dog moment. If my example isn't enough for Impact, he can have one after he gets mind control where everything goes perfectly and he accomplishes something big (perhaps his takeover of the world, but probably not). Not sure about Renny or Matthias.

What does duty for him involve anyway?

"Him" is you.

Everyone else, feel free to post anything I missed.

[Menarker]

Well, I had sent AB a PM that didn't get a response. Mostly in line with upgrades and which would also change/vary depending on AB's response to the entire pokemon power level (whether a pokemon with 680 base stats is yes or hell no.)

[Dracorion]

Come on. He already okayed Dialga for me and that has 680 stats so obviously having one is okay. Having two is the question.

[Geminex]

Maybe trainers could have a legendary/semi-legendary limit. Say, 1 Legendary, 2 semi-legendaries. One of your upgrades could be to remove that limit. And by 'Upgrade', I mean that you get it instead of going Master Of Battle. That'd give you the ability to make your team overpowered without necessarily making your entire character overpowered.

[Dracorion]

What?

No, fuck you.

EDIT: To clarify: fuck you. How would you justify it in the RP?

[Geminex]

...

Legendary pokemon:
Primal beings, some of which are responsible for time, space and the FABRIC OF THE UNIVERSE, others of which are just immensely powerful, more intelligent than all members our group combined, and capable of enslaving any amount of humans to their will.

Trainers:
People who use apricot-based technology to make pokemon do what they want to do.

...

I mean seriously, fucking apricots. How does that make sense? Legendaries are supposed to be just that. Legendary. Incredibly powerful, unique, the thing of myths and epics. Gods, or demi-gods, at the very least. Training and controlling just one should be enough to stretch a trainer's abilities to the limit! And you're talking about getting three of them!

And while that can be justified, (like I said, in-game balancing can come later), you're basically getting these super-powerful monsters for free. What gives? They are a clear upgrade to your fighting ability, and while AB does seem rather willing to dispense superpowers, we really shouldn't take too much advantage of that.

And finally, it is rather lame. I mean, on one side you have the variety and challenge that comes with having a team of normal pokemon, on the other side you have your super-powered elite horde. It's just... boring.

[Menarker]

On a personal level, I kinda agree with that all this power boost is too much too soon (for now). You hadn't even gotten Aria yet. I still think that eventually it's not that bad and we can let Pierce have his dream team. But at the moment? I think that Pierce getting Aria on top of Metagross is already a huge boost and getting those legendaries is getting just a tad bit far. Maybe one or the other within the next mission or two, but two Mewtwo powered pokemons in swift succession in addition to any other rewards seem a tad high.

On another level, I'm slightly biased since I already put myself on the self-restriction of using only the team that I got and one future pokemon to come. The team which already only consist of a legendary whose power level counts as semi-legendary, and everything else is below that, even though still quite powerful. Even when/if I get a pokemon whose power counts as legendary, I'm still within Geminex's proposed restriction.

RP wise? Aria's stalkerish lovestruck behavior aside, the other two legendaries probably should not be seeking attention from humans, nevermind be within urban areas where they can easily be sighted nevermind easily caught.

Also, I'm assuming we're stating that anything with 600ish base stat to be psuedo legendary? You mentioned pokemon whom are "smarter than the entire team combined" made me think of Alakazam who is admittably one of the most powerful special attack as well as super mental speed possible, but doesn't technically count as legendary or semi for that matter even if its stats are still quite high.

Powerful Pokemon are Powerful (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=284)

[Dracorion]

Two, actually. Just Enmakki and Dialga. Pierce has three pseudo-legendaries, though.

In the games, manga and anime there's nothing to suggest controlling legendaries is any different from regular pokemon. I mean, in the games you can get as many legendaries as you want, people in the manga have controlled up to three, and I dunno about the anime.

I get what you're saying, but if the legendaries are that smart I can't imagine them going "Oh gee, these guys can actually help us put an end to the Ruin pokemon once and for all, let's not help them".

What can I say? I like having my team of supermonsters. It makes me feel warm inside.

But really, Pierce's dream team isn't all that perfect. Raw power aside, they don't have a lot of type variety, so a proper team could resist their attacks (I don't actually know what that team would be, but I'll have to for Pierce's sidequest). Resistance-wise, his best is Enmakki. All the rest have double weaknesses to Ground, and Tyranitar has a quad weakness to Fighting. Sure, there's a lot of resistances across the board, but again, double weakness to Ground.

I was going to go for Enmakki later, but the way I wanted to go with it made it so that it has to be introduced in a residential area, and this seems like the only chance we're going to get. It's either that, or introducing it in Mission 6, which is kind of a stretch and by then or soon after that Pierce should be getting Dialga instead.

Besides, nothing about Pokemon is supposed to make sense.

And Menarker, if to bypass your self-restriction all you gotta do is catch the pokemon you want during a mission after its trainer dies. Like Latios and Latias.

FYI? Pierce is bringing Aria this mission.

Besides, did you forget Phantomere? Our boys were falling left and right. I mean, Metagross exploded twice. And the rest of the Ruin Generals are only going to be tougher. Hell, if Phantomere had proper defenses we probably would've lost.

Enmakki's bad luck is going into Renny's parents' house while the team is there. Usually it's victims are utterly helpless. And I don't intend for it to be a cakewalk, Enmakki being a master of mindrape and all. Dialga will probably be in someone's pokeball.

Still, Enmakki's probably in for a depowerment. How does 640 sound?

[Menarker]

I think you might wanna wait until AB posts just in case he was all right with it in the first place. :3

And my self-restriction has nothing to do with inability but more so about the "power of friendship" and sticking with his main pokemons that he has chosen since before the first mission through thick and thin.
The only reasons why he would use another pokemon would be
A: Seperated from his pokemon.
B: Forced to only have a select number of pokemon and allowed a new one in the process (like with Latias)
C: Pokemon... dies. *Sob*

But yeah, (In an RPing sense) pokemons are living creatures which require their own upkeep and special care. Capturing them just to stick them in the pokemon computer bin isn't Renny's way!

And don't bring the bad luck of Enmakki into my mission! I only approved the capturing, not the mind-rape and overall bad feelings! I got something else planned for the night. Do that shit on your own mission or during AB's.

[Dracorion]

But yeah, (In an RPing sense) pokemons are living creatures which require their own upkeep and special care. Capturing them just to stick them in the pokemon computer bin isn't Renny's way!

Hey, Pierce isn't exactly a heartless bastard either. There's a reason he hasn't dumped Aria in the darkest recesses of PC storage even though her over-clingyness annoys him. He switches his team around, that's the reason why Aria and Metagross weren't on his team in the first place, but with the fate of the world at stake he's going to go for the team he thinks is best for the job. Tyranitar, Metagross, Nagarai, Blaziken, Enmakki and Dialga will raze through anything that isn't specialized to resist them, and Pierce can trust the rest of the team to pick up the slack on type variety.

And don't bring the bad luck of Enmakki into my mission! I only approved the capturing, not the mind-rape and overall bad feelings! I got something else planned for the night. Do that shit on your own mission or during AB's.

What the- you're the one who suggested introducing it during the sleepover in the first place! If you don't like that, we can go with my original suggestion and have Enmakki come in during the day to feast on the maids away from Faynoc's assault, until the team runs into it.

[Geminex]

Also, I'm assuming we're stating that anything with 600ish base stat to be psuedo legendary? You mentioned pokemon whom are "smarter than the entire team combined" made me think of Alakazam who is admittably one of the most powerful special attack as well as super mental speed possible, but doesn't technically count as legendary or semi for that matter even if its stats are still quite high.
Doesn't Mewtwo have exorbitant IQ as well? And I love Alakazam.

And fuck you Drac, PvP without legendaries. Or I'll have Impact pull Excalibur, and maybe a BFG from his private stash, and then we'll see who's laughing (It'll be me). Take Tyranitar, and even metagross, but leave it at two semi-legendaries.


I get what you're saying, but if the legendaries are that smart I can't imagine them going "Oh gee, these guys can actually help us put an end to the Ruin pokemon once and for all, let's not help them".
Oh, no, I'm not saying they shouldn't be helping us. But there's a difference between fighting on our side during the more intense battles and letting us utterly enslave them.
I mean, I'd be totally fine with it if, during the course of our adventure, we meet a few legendaries, ally with them, each of them selects a "champion", and that champion gets access to them - but only when we're fighting ruin generals. That'd give us their strength when we really need it, but it wouldn't make our characters overpowered, or even that extraordinary, since the only thing that'll be making the legendaries fight on our side would be that we're fighting a common enemy. Sure, we've caught a few legendaries already, but we can just assume that the ones already in our (and the Kimonos') posession are the more humanly-inclined, the ones who don't mind being used the way normal pokemon are. But I just can't imagine anyone sticking Mewtwo or Rayquaza or Dialga in a pokeball.

[Dracorion]

And fuck you Drac, PvP without legendaries. Or I'll have Impact pull Excalibur, and maybe a BFG from his private stash, and then we'll see who's laughing (It'll be me). Take Tyranitar, and even metagross, but leave it at two semi-legendaries.

If it's just PVP, sure.

Oh, no, I'm not saying they shouldn't be helping us. But there's a difference between fighting on our side during the more intense battles and letting us utterly enslave them.
I mean, I'd be totally fine with it if, during the course of our adventure, we meet a few legendaries, ally with them, each of them selects a "champion", and that champion gets access to them - but only when we're fighting ruin generals. That'd give us their strength when we really need it, but it wouldn't make our characters overpowered, or even that extraordinary, since the only thing that'll be making the legendaries fight on our side would be that we're fighting a common enemy. Sure, we've caught a few legendaries already, but we can just assume that the ones already in our (and the Kimonos') posession are the more humanly-inclined, the ones who don't mind being used the way normal pokemon are. But I just can't imagine anyone sticking Mewtwo or Rayquaza or Dialga in a pokeball.

My idea for Dialga was actually to have it disobey orders until Pierce managed to convince it to work with him for the greater good. Pierce is going to release Dialga as soon as the RP is over.

Enmakki, on the other hand, he's going to keep. There's no way he's going to let that murder machine run free. He'll either dump it in storage, or try to direct it's evil at other evils.

I'm fine with legendaries choosing "champions", but it'd be easier if they were with us for the whole ride, rather than just Ruin Generals.

Besides, I'm fairly certain Shizuka already has Arceus.

[Geminex]

The Kimonos are special. Besides, maybe whichever legendaries the Kimonos have died in battle and then were caught in the Netherworld.

And maybe Enmakki will escape by itself...

Edit: And was I too subtle when I stated that I'm considering whether to have Impact kill Rayleen, or do you all take that sort of thing for granted already?

[Dracorion]

The Kimonos are special. Besides, maybe whichever legendaries the Kimonos have died in battle and then were caught in the Netherworld.

Oh come on. They're "special"? That's your excuse?

If catching, let alone killing, a legendary was that easy, there wouldn't be any left. I'm pretty sure it'd take a large army of trainers or a large group of Ruin pokemon to kill a legendary. And in the case of Ruin-types, legendaries are smart enough to run the fuck away.

And maybe Enmakki will escape by itself...

I suppose it could, but with what I'm thinking for it I don't think it would want to.

And was I too subtle when I stated that I'm considering whether to have Impact kill Rayleen, or do you all take that sort of thing for granted already?

If Impact killed Rayleen, he'd be facing the same problem as killing Pierce: her pokemon.

Your best bet would be to kill Rayleen or Pierce in such a way that you leave no evidence and that even pokemon senses can't detect you.

Like a sniper shot from half the city away.

[Menarker]

What the- you're the one who suggested introducing it during the sleepover in the first place! If you don't like that, we can go with my original suggestion and have Enmakki come in during the day to feast on the maids away from Faynoc's assault, until the team runs into it.

Technically, you suggested both idea, and I "compromised" by having it do its dream messing stuff on Snorlax. But your intent seems to be to cause absolute nightmare and mayhem which frankly I'm not going to have in this side-story. :3 (And you'll thank me for it.) So just keep Mr. HorrorStory on the drawing board until another sidestory or part of the main story.

As much as the championing legend thing sounds awesome, I hope it won't force Renny to replace one of his pokemons on his belt for it.

[Geminex]

Well, Shaymin seems fairly friendly, and his personality matches Renny's. I don't think it's too illogical to assume that they're friends.

Oh come on. They're "special"? That's your excuse?

If catching, let alone killing, a legendary was that easy, there wouldn't be any left. I'm pretty sure it'd take a large army of trainers or a large group of Ruin pokemon to kill a legendary. And in the case of Ruin-types, legendaries are smart enough to run the fuck away.

In the first battle between legendaries and the Ruin generals, quite a few Ruin Generals sacrificed themselves, yes? What's to say that some legendaries couldn't have died as well? Big battle, legendaries die, wander through Netherworld. Kimonos find them, manage to befriend/catch them, promise to release them once the Ruin threat has been defeated. It's more logical by far than assuming that Pierce can control the being that has power over all of creation.

If Impact killed Rayleen, he'd be facing the same problem as killing Pierce: her pokemon.
I'm hoping that by the end of the story, she'll have given her pokemon to Rachel.

[Menarker]

Well, what I meant was that once Renny has his 6 pokemon (Togekiss, Shaymin, Swampert, Umbreon, Magnezone, ???) that if the group encounters a legendary pokemon, that he wouldn't have to switch out or box any of 6 on his belt. In a way, like having a 7th pokemon that never goes into a pokeball or something, maybe under Renny's guidance but using Rayleen or Rachel's pokeball or something like that unless his other pokemon were unavailable by some external circumstances as mentioned above.

(Also, I'm roleplaying Shaymin as a she, not he, but that's just quibbling... although Bulbapedia says it is genderless. How very odd.)

[Dracorion]

Technically, you suggested both idea, and I "compromised" by having it do its dream messing stuff on Snorlax. But your intent seems to be to cause absolute nightmare and mayhem which frankly I'm not going to have in this side-story. :3 (And you'll thank me for it.) So just keep Mr. HorrorStory on the drawing board until another sidestory or part of the main story.

Right, so it'd try to feed on Snorlax and then what, wait for everyone to wake up and let Pierce throw a pokeball at it? It was always going to put up a fight, and since this is a pokemon that specializes in mindrape, what did you think it was going to fight with? Hugs and kisses?

As for saving it for later, when? I don't want it in someone's pokeball, which means I'd have to wait until Mission 6 to introduce it. Since there's probably only going to be, like, three missions after Mission 7, that'd be when Pierce should be getting Dialga. And we can't have him getting two legendaries so close to each other.

I don't think anyone else's sidequest would take place somewhere Enmakki would appear, and a sidequest centered around Enmakki? Sure, I could do that. And tie it into Pierce's character development. But it'd just be the one fight.

Although, hmmm, something just occurred to me. Maybe the Watchmen go to investigate a string of murders, and end up racing with Faynoc to find the bastard. But it'd be related to the plot insofar as our characters are in it and so are Faynoc's guys and probably also the Kimonos, unless AB helps me tie it into the main plot a little more. As for tying it into Pierce's character development, well, I wanted Sam to live in Wintervale, and there's no reason for the Watchmen to operate in Wintervale, so she'd have to live in Fainas. But that just reeks of contrived coincidence.

As much as the championing legend thing sounds awesome, I hope it won't force Renny to replace one of his pokemons on his belt for it.

Meh. You just tell AB you don't want to champion a legendary and that's that.

In the first battle between legendaries and the Ruin generals, quite a few Ruin Generals sacrificed themselves, yes? What's to say that some legendaries couldn't have died as well? Big battle, legendaries die, wander through Netherworld. Kimonos find them, manage to befriend/catch them, promise to release them once the Ruin threat has been defeated. It's more logical by far than assuming that Pierce can control the being that has power over all of creation.

The battle between the Ruin Generals and the legendaries was forever ago. If they were dead, they wouldn't be messing around in our world and therefore people this day wouldn't know about them.

Unless you were suggesting made-up legendaries, which could work. Except Chizuru already has Giratina, and I would goddamn bet money, a hundred million dollars, that Shizuka has Arceus. Sure, you could explain it with Giratina dimension-hopping, but I'm not sure if Giratina can hop anywhere or just between our world and Distortion World.

[Geminex]

...

"Legendary".
"Legend".
I won't define it for you, but no matter whether or not they exist (or are "messing around"), there'll certainly be stories about them, myths. Legends. They don't need to be seen to be believed.

Edit:
In regards to Pierce getting Enmakki, why not link it into his sidequest? Faynoc could have reawoken it at the laboratory in order to siphon its DNA. Or something along those lines, you'll think of something. Anyway, Pierce'll have unwittingly helped, maybe he helped deliver some of the poke-eggs that were sacriced to bring it to life. It'll hound us throughout the mission (I'm assuming our attack gives it a chance to escape and go out of control, which'll give plenty of opportunities for find grisly scenes with tons of eye-less corpses), and once we've fought Faynoc's minions, we'll have to hunt it down. At first we try to kill it, realize we can't do that, so Impact, or maybe Rayleen, tell Pierce that "you helped create it, you look out for it. Your responsibility."
That'll give plausible reasons for its introduction, and explain why Pierce would even want it.

And Menarker, the way I see the entire "Champion" thing is that they wouldn't take up a pokeball. They'd simply arrive when they're needed and disappear again afterwards. They'd be under our command throughout the entire battle, (though I'm thinking that maybe we couldn't revive them in battle), but they wouldn't take up space in our party.

Edit again:
As for tying it into Pierce's character development, well, I wanted Sam to live in Wintervale, and there's no reason for the Watchmen to operate in Wintervale, so she'd have to live in Fainas. But that just reeks of contrived coincidence.
Ca-ching.
We'll be fighting Faynoc in mission three, right? (I mean real mission three, no sidequests). And we'll have to calm down a religious riot. And Faynoc brainwashes people.

Pierce spots Sam near the end of the mission. Only she's wearing robes. And looking glassy-eyed. He doesn't tell anyone about it, but it's what motivates him to visit the facility. That's where he discovers all the other consequences of his actions. It all ends with him shouldering the burden of Enmakki, who haunts him with dreams of his sister dying.

[Dracorion]

Fair enough. Then it's just a matter of the stories surviving sixteen hundred years.

Unless this is the anime world or the game world, in which case your theory goes to hell.

[Geminex]

If Impact existed in the Anime, the show would be so much better.

Any comment on my edits?