Pok?mon Umbral Discussion 11: Silence! I Keel You!

[Astral Harmony]

Seriously, it's difficult to get anything out of all that talk, which yes, I know is more or less entirely my fault but I'm a one-post-a-day lazy GM, but it still doesn't help me all that much.

Dracorian, I can grant this Enmekki, but you're not getting it until your sidequest. I will introduce it, you will capture it. I don't know when Dialga will rear his head for you, but you're definitely getting Enmekki next.

No more additional upgrades until after Mission Three. Menarker, if you want to switch Mollesk in for another Pok?mon, feel free to do so. I'll get you that sixth slot after Mission Three, but you'll have to make due until then. I'm sorry, but I'm putting my foot down.

...Ow, I think I broke my heel.

Anyways, I don't know what other questions were asked, because I'm not going to read all those paragraphs to find them. Sorry, but I guess I'm just impatient that way, even if I don't particularly have anything better to do other than find those questions.

Now here's your sexy picture...

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/923/923485/pokemon-report-across-the-poke-universe-20081024034417313.jpg

...Oooh, got all of ya! But man, that is effing disturbing me. I know I can never make it up for that one, but here's just one of my efforts...

so i herd u liek mudkipz
http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mudkip.jpg

Holy shit, it's Officer Jenny!
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0902/officer-jenny-officer-jenny-hot-cop-sexy-pokemon-pikachu-demotivational-poster-1234223407.jpg

And the return of the Pikachu hawtness...
http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/9/5/633877414072254350-POKEMON.jpg

So please, if you would kindly, an actual list of questions that I can read without going through oodles of paragraphs. Please, please, please help this lazy, retarded GM out. Help me help you. Or you won't get any more Mudkips.

Well, you probably won't get anymore anyways since that's the only picture of a Mudkip cosplay I saw on that site, but maybe I'll get lucky and find another one. It'd be a real effort to find one better than that one, I guaran-damn-tee.

[Menarker]

Wow.

*Swampert nods as well*

^^

*Reading*

Aw, you totally spoilered my 6th pokemon. :3

[Dracorion]

*Skip to the bottom for (lousy) post summary*

Edit:
In regards to Pierce getting Enmakki, why not link it into his sidequest? Faynoc could have reawoken it at the laboratory in order to siphon its DNA. Or something along those lines, you'll think of something. Anyway, Pierce'll have unwittingly helped, maybe he helped deliver some of the poke-eggs that were sacriced to bring it to life. It'll hound us throughout the mission (I'm assuming our attack gives it a chance to escape and go out of control, which'll give plenty of opportunities for find grisly scenes with tons of eye-less corpses), and once we've fought Faynoc's minions, we'll have to hunt it down. At first we try to kill it, realize we can't do that, so Impact, or maybe Rayleen, tell Pierce that "you helped create it, you look out for it. Your responsibility."
That'll give plausible reasons for its introduction, and explain why Pierce would even want it.

Oh, come on man. I had this totally bitchin' idea for Pierce's sidequest. Everything was filled out, it was all neat and tidy. Then you posted this. Pierce's sidequest is going to be eventful enough, with a final battle that will put Phantomere's battle to shame.

I'd rather not mix Enmakki in there and just let it have its own sidequest.

Pierce spots Sam near the end of the mission. Only she's wearing robes. And looking glassy-eyed. He doesn't tell anyone about it, but it's what motivates him to visit the facility. That's where he discovers all the other consequences of his actions. It all ends with him shouldering the burden of Enmakki, who haunts him with dreams of his sister dying.

Seriously? The whole brainwash thing. But everybody does that. Hell, the level of drama you're suggesting, plus his sidequest, would cement Pierce as the main character, because I doubt anybody else has that. And do you really want Pierce as a main character? Because it's only a stone's throw away from team leader then.

Dracorian, I can grant this Enmekki, but you're not getting it until your sidequest. I will introduce it, you will capture it. I don't know when Dialga will rear his head for you, but you're definitely getting Enmekki next.

That your final decision? 'Cause the only way to keep Enmakki from taking the spotlight is to put it in some jackass' pokeball and being just a random mook. I mean, I just had this idea for a second sidequest revolving around Enmakki.

Of course, if you're putting your foot down you're putting your foot down. I can make it work either way.


So please, if you would kindly, an actual list of questions that I can read without going through oodles of paragraphs. Please, please, please help this lazy, retarded GM out. Help me help you. Or you won't get any more Mudkips.

Screw it. Someone else can do it this time. It's late and I'm tired. It wasn't that many paragraphs anyway! You don't hear any of us complain when we have to read your gigantic posts.

Post summary: but mooooooooom.

[Menarker]

Slight sum-up, not including the data on Enmaki or the questions on legendaries since both seem to be approved.


1: If we're going to be split up as often as you say, is Renny still always going to be the definite leader? And if Renny's gonna be leader, I'd recommend that we retcon everything so he's older than 16. Because no matter how you approach it, that just doesn't work. I'd say 18 at the very least, and perhaps this can be his 19th birthday party.
(Personally, I wouldn't mind the ret-con to 18, but I veto the entire birthday party thing.)

2: (My daydream idea for a future plot, which I doubt will happen.)
http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1031464&postcount=63

3: "You know what we need? Specific opportunies for specific characters to be badass. Like, say, a back-to-back corridor battle with Pierce and Impact facing down endless hordes of pokemon on both sides. Just imagine:

Impact: Tch. We really stepped in it now.
Pierce: What, you can't handle this many? Pussy.
Impact: And you can?
Pierce: Hell yeah.
Impact: Well, I'm not losing to you. Not to a filthy coward that hides behind beasts.
Pierce: (Maniacal laugh, runs off to kill shit) AHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

4: What does AB's military "duty days" entail?

That somewhat sums it up I think.

[Geminex]

Also, can Impact have a 4th weapon?

Also, I propose that after Rayleen shuts down Impact, we just assume that everyone gets in the van and drives off to Renny's house. That'll waste less time.

Edit:
I'll reply to everything else later. Got to do some work now.

[Astral Harmony]

All I revealed about your special Pokemon is its name. Hell, they'll probably think it's an evolved form of Cloyster or something.

1. Rayleen retracted what she decided so...decidedly. But Renny is definitely the leader of his sidequest, that much you've all agreed upon. As for the rest of it, you're all adults. Well, almost all adults, but as tried and true members of PATCA, Rayleen will respect your decisions about deciding who your leader is. Hell, bounce the role of leadership around if you like. Like if Renny's the leader right at the start of a mission and Impact's all like "Outta the way, boy. Let a man handle this." and Renny can decide that Impact can have the leadership...up until the time Impact rounds a corner and gets bitten on the arm by a Seviper for his insolence.

And honestly, I don't see what the problem with Renny being sixteen is. Think about the main characters in the anime and video games. Hell, they're younger than he is. Remember, we're in a fantasy world. There's reality, but we'll never get beyond the point where we recognize that the first Pokeballs were made from Apricorns. That came naturally from trees. I'm still WTFing over that nonsense yet I've come to accept it because Pokemon is a fantasy universe, where oversized monsters than can destroy the world somehow find themselves the willing slaves of kids who should still be in middle school disecting frogs and grossing out girls with the eyeballs, not dicking around with dragons that can manipulate time and space and giant birds that can flash-cook you with lightning, freeze you solid with ice, and flamebroil you with fire.

2. Moving along, I suppose it could work, but there will be major changes just like how Renny ended up inviting everyone to his party. Here's some hints:

- The Water, Flying, Bug, Poison, Grass, Fighting, and Steel Ruin Generals are already in place, or rather, in their respective points in the plot. I think a good mix of what you suggested would be Fire and Lightning in one area, and the Rock and Ground in another area. Or something else. I dunno, I'll figure it all out or we can work it all out.
- Faynoc kinda isn't gonna last very long. Expect to take him down in Pierce's sidequest. One thing I want to do in this RP is make certain that the bad guys don't run away. When you fuckin' see 'em, you're gonna fuckin' kill 'em...eh, most of the time. But like Moera, I want to make sure that big bads don't get defeat immunity (in other words, the plot doesn't save 'em when they lose the first or second time). No Rockets are blasting off again here, folks. Plus, it makes room for shit to just get worse as newer, fresher, fiercer foes stand between you and ultimate victory.

3. I can give that. Just be prepared for beautiful NPC females to be impressed by your awesomeness.

4. Eh, I do this 'n' that. It's mostly a bunch of bull that's both tedious and annoying, but if you think about it, it's important to the survival of ship and crew, so I do take it seriously.

Others: You can have a fourth weapon in your next upgrade.

[Dracorion]

Y'know, I wasn't sure if I wanted to post that in the RP. On the one hand, there's been enough arguing going on. On the other, it's nothing mayor and I couldn't resist anyway.

- Faynoc kinda isn't gonna last very long. Expect to take him down in Pierce's sidequest.

Well, that's it for my second sidequest idea. So I guess we should introduce Enmakki in Pierce's sidequest, in some bastard's pokeball. Faynoc's maybe?

[Astral Harmony]

Faynoc isn't going to be at Renny's party. He hates karaoke.

There's plenty of room in Pierce's sidequest for Enmekki and Faynoc. I mean, that is the one where you all discover his underground lab, right? That's a perfect scene for all kinds of messed up shit. And a messed up shit like Enmekki sounds like he'd fit right in.

[Geminex]

Gah. Have you checked the Slayer's weapons list, recently? If not, then let me sum it up for you:

There are 3 very strongly offensive (4 if you count Ruin) elements in the game: Fighting, Ground and Ice. Of those, two (three if you count Ruin) are medium weapons, one's a heavy.

Really, the Ruin weapon's real nice and all, but if I have to choose between it, the HV rifle or the Ground weapon, it really doesn't do me a whole lot of good, because I'm replacing one powerful weapon with another. Particularly if you consider that when I got the Ruin weapons and armor, the trainers got a second leader, and the ability to attack.

So, 4 weapons? Please? Just for PvP? Or just make the Ruin gun a light weapon. Or a heavy.

[Dracorion]

Yeah, it was Pierce's sidequest. Saying Renny was just me being confuzzled. I blame sleep deprivation.

Yeah, underground lab works... sort of. See, I'm still figuring out how to get the team to go there in the first place.

Hm... maybe a PATCA spy found info about several pieces of equipment that were stolen from Fainas and Wintervale in the last three or four years (of course, Pierce is the one that stole the stuff from Wintervale)? Would that work? What the parts do is something I'm keeping to myself until I actually talk to AB about it, of course.

I can't see what Enmakki would be doing in Faynoc's supersecret lab if it's not already caught.

[Geminex]

I've already suggested stuff for all of that!
Here's the outline I'd propose:
1: During riots, Pierce sees mind-washed sister
2: Finds out where she's being held
3: Decides to go and rescue her like the big hero he is
4: Gets caught, fails miserably. All pokemon get knocked out, so has to fight to protect them as a slayer
5: Team manages to arrive in time to save him. Unfortunately, during combat they damage some part of the facility, maybe the power generator.
6: This causes a lot of shit to happen, including Emakki getting freed.
7: Emakki goes on killing spree, while the team decides to seek out Faynoc, finish him off.
8: They fight their way through the facility, encounter signs of Faynoc's hideous experiments, as well as Enmakki's mutilated victims.
9: Big battle, Faynoc dies.
10: Pierce's criminal past is revealed.
11: Military join the fray, secure the facility
12: The brain-slaves are hidden deeper within the facility
13: The team must act quickly to save them before Enmakki finds them
14: They succeed, fight Enmakki.
15: Pierce realizes that Enmakki is his responsibility, takes up the burden
16: Everyone lives happily ever af- AhahahahaNO.

Anyway, if that's too much emphasis on Pierce (which it might be), we can make it so that he only leads from step 10 onwards. It's a public mission up until then, becomes Pierce's mission afterwards.

Whadd'ya say?

[Dracorion]

If Pierce's sister was kidnapped then, reason be damned, he would go off on his own to find her because it's his responsibility. The rest of the team would end up going their own way through the facility.

I don't think it'd be necessary for Pierce to prove himself a Slayer in order to go Battle Master in the future, but he'll probably have to do it anyway. And fail horribly.

I don't like the idea of having Sam brainwashed. Either Faynoc targetted her specifically, all the way over in Wintervale, which means he's targetting Pierce, which is too much focus on Pierce. Or it's a contrived coincidence, which would suck.

Why would Enmakki be held anywhere not a pokeball? I suppose you could say that the generator exploding kill its trainer, though.

Anyway, Pierce's pokemon and junk:

Tyranitar (Male)
Ability: Sand Stream
Focus Blast/Crunch
Earthquake/Stone Edge
Giga Impact/Protect
Item: Leftovers

Nagarai (Female)
Ability: Drizzle
Thunder/Thunder Wave
Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
Aerial Ace/Extreme Speed
Item: White Herb

Metagross (Genderless)
Ability: Clear Body
Meteor Mash/Zen Headbutt
Giga Impact/Iron Defense
Item: Metronome

Blaziken (Male)
Ability: Blaze
Flare Blitz/Overheat
Sky Uppercut/Reversal
Item: Expert Belt

Kingdra (Female)
Ability: Sniper
Draco Meteor/Hydro Pump
Blizzard/Dragon Pulse
Item: White Herb

Held items: Max Revive, Full Restore, Full Restore.

[Geminex]

It could be a combination of both. Maybe they chanced upon her, she could have visited a gathering of theirs with a friend, and someone realized whose sister she was. Faynoc would have been dimly aware of Pierce, I assume, so he could have put some extra effort into turning her, to use as a bargaining chip against Pierce. It wouldn't be too illogical, and it'd explain why Pierce goes in himself. And I thought the team'd link up with Pierce because Pierce will try and fail to reach Sam by himself.

And can we discuss the PvP? What'll the rules be? I was thinking, trainers get 4 pokemon, limit of 2 semi-legendary, they can't use items. Slayers will be limited to three items.

Because if you think I'm going to KO your leader, just to watch you max-revive it again then fuck you with the siege boomerang.

[Menarker]

I'll have my pokemon moves edited into my bio. However, the 6th pokemon (whom will be leader pokemon #2) will be unknown aside from the name which AB volunteered. Umbreon will be sitting this mission out due to the 5 pokemon limitation.


Slayers
Geminex (Ray Green:Impact) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015565&postcount=25)
Armored Bishoujo's NPC (Rayleen) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1018064&postcount=6)

Trainers
Bard (Charlotte Beaufort: Madame Ursurang) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015435&postcount=14)
Menarker (Renny Tresserhorn) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015554&postcount=23)
Dracorion (Pierce Granger) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015686&postcount=29)

Pokebrids
DanteFalcon (Matthias Sona: Oberon) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015494&postcount=19)
Armored Bishoujo's NPC (Rachel McConnelly:Princess) (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015813&postcount=41)

Name: Dormond Ferguson
Alias: None
Age: 53
Gender: Male
Class: Pokébrid (Mawile)
Appearance: Imagine your standard butler. Grey hair, small mustache, gentlemanly stature and superb manners. Now imagine him with a giant set of jaws hanging from a fleshly black protrusion on the back of his head. He dyes his mustache black because the genes turned his hair black, and wears gloves to hide the fact that his hands are black as well.
Backstory / Personality: A butler serving in Rayleen's family for at least three generations, Dormond personally blames himself for Rayleen's suffering when her father and fiancé were killed. His relationship with Rayleen is deep and he considers himself her personal champion, protector of body and mind.

Name: Lola Phelps
Alias: Queen of Hearts
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Class: Pokébrid (Lopunny)
Appearance: Lola is a bombshell in Nurse's whites. Strangely enough, her naturally pink hair has affected the Lopunny genes somewhat, turning the brown fur as pink as her hair. One would expect her to have other features, but do to adding hair removal in undesireable places as part of her personal care regimen, there are no tufts of furr on her wrists, eyebrows, or on the sides of her knees.
Backstory / Personality: Lola has been working as a trainee nurse for about five years, and as a registered nurse for less, but she's damn good at the job of healing others. One of the small disappointments in her life is that far too many people come to see her just to see her. Seriously, a stomacheache? Your leg fell asleep, that's all. I'm sorry, I don't see an open head wound. Yeeeeah. Lola wants to prove her potential by dealing with the worst injuries a man could ever suffer from without dying, yet for this professional, she may get bored quickly.

[Dracorion]

It could be a combination of both. Maybe they chanced upon her, she could have visited a gathering of theirs with a friend, and someone realized whose sister she was. Faynoc would have been dimly aware of Pierce, I assume, so he could have put some extra effort into turning her, to use as a bargaining chip against Pierce. It wouldn't be too illogical, and it'd explain why Pierce goes in himself. And I thought the team'd link up with Pierce because Pierce will try and fail to reach Sam by himself.

I suppose that could work. But since Sam is the culmination of Pierce's character development, I wanted to save her for later. I mean, Pierce's sidequest is just after Mission 3, and there's a whole lot of RP left to run after that. What's Pierce gonna do for the rest of the story?

What about Millenium House? Unless Faynoc's underground lab is Millenium House. But if it was AB would've said so, I think. My original plan for Pierce's sidequest was have one of Faynoc's underlings as the boss, and save Faynoc for Millenium House. Though I suppose it could be the other way around if AB wants.

It would certainly help, because Sam could escape from the underground lab and continue to work for the underling even after Faynoc dies, extending hers and Pierce's reunion like I wanted.

And can we discuss the PvP? What'll the rules be? I was thinking, trainers get 4 pokemon, limit of 2 semi-legendary, they can't use items. Slayers will be limited to three items.

I'm fine with the rules, but how exactly would PvP work? I mean, the way I see it it'd go like:

Tyranitar used Stone Edge!
*AB posts damage and junk*
Swampert uses Surf! Super-effective!

At one AB post a day, it'd take twice as long as a battle against NPCs. The only way I can think of would speed it up would be to have:

Tyranitar uses Stone Edge!
Swampert moves to dodge! Uses Surf!
*AB posts, disregards moves if Swampert was KOed or dodge or either pokemon was incapacitated by a status effect*

Unless we would be taking care of damage ourselves, which could work. Except I can see arguments extending through two threads about how that Fire Blast would totally have missed Togekiss or how Swampert obviously survived both of those Solarbeams.

By the way, Aria is going to be hanging onto Pierce's shoulder all throughout the party. I think it was decided earlier that AB would be the one to give her her nickname, so Aria will bring up the subject of naming her and that'll be AB's cue.

I wonder, is Renny going to be one of those leaders that doesn't delegate, just takes the biggest risks himself? I know it doesn't apply to this situation, since he's the one that has to lead the vans to his house, but I'm just wondering.

[Astral Harmony]

PvP can be done by the players themselves.

And fine, Impact can have a fourth weapon, ya whiny little turd.

Won't help you win against Shizuka.

[Menarker]

I figured that for PvP we would both PM our respective tactics to AB, so that we don't have our players go on a delay war, hoping to be the one who posts second once they know what move the opponent is using or what pokemon they switch with. AB combines the result and posts. Repeat until battle is interrupted or a victor emerges.

In regards to the delegation issue, the situation is unique in that not only does Renny have to lead to the house, as you said, but that we are at a possible risk of being attacked while in transport, which never happened before. Previously, the conflict was either
1: Already in action and we just joined in, with no risk of being intercepted since we were not a known factor.
2: We were investigating and they were stationed at a location.

However, NOW, we are the ones being targeted instead of us targeting them. That changes a few things in regards to risk and all that.

Renny is best suited for this task since he has two flying pokemons to help keep watch as well as intercept if he sees a problem. (The fact that both pokemon have a chance of AOE flinching 70% of the time now for delaying makes it SWELL) Technically, he's also best at water transportation too since he can use those as well as Swampert. ^^ Renny is just plain useful when it comes to LIVING with pokemon. Whether it be battle, transit between location and daily life. Personality wise, he has no trouble delegating if he can think of someone who is CLEARLY suitable for the task. But if someone doesn't inform him of their pokemon's specific moveset that might be suited to a task or they don't volunteer a better idea, he's willing to do it himself if he thinks it's for the best. (As long as it's within his capabilities to do with a considerable chance of success.)

But yes, for your info, Togekiss and Shaymin both have Air Slash which have 30% flinch chance, can use Divide upgrade to make it hit two foes (thus flinching two foes at once at best), both have Serene Grace to double the chance of flinch (thus making it 60% flinch chance), and equipping King's Rock and Razor Fang respectively which both have the same effect of adding 10% chance of flinching to all their offensive moves. (Air Slash gets extra 10% flinch chance). Total result? Two pokemons that can spam a half powered but STAB damaged Air Slash hitting one or two foes for 70% flinch rate TWICE, practically sure to flinch-lock them, or hit 3-4 foes for 70% flinch chance each. ^^

EDIT: Although since AB said that it can be done between players, we should probably have a referee that we can PM to, for the above mentioned reason. Preferably Bard or Dante because Geminex/Impact is just too damn evil in plain sight, I can't help thinking that he would support Pierce for the purpose of global domination. :3

[Dracorion]

Won't help you win against Shizuka.

Already called for. So very very called for.

EDIT: If you're thinking of doing what I think you're doing, Menarker, I'd rather you didn't. Aria is going to screw with Pierce constantly, so he needs to get one up on her. The reason I want one of AB's girls to suggest the name is so that she'll hate it, he'll like it. She'll tip the scales back in her favor later. So yeah.

By the way, she's not that pissed. Not enough to screw with the weather anyway. She's extremely jealous, sure, but she trust Pierce well enough even if he's about a knowledgeable about love or dating as an un-potty trained labradoodle.

[Menarker]

I meant the species name. Renny has no idea that she is a Nagarai. It's pretty unique/new so I was assuming the scanners didn't have her data. I can edit it if needed be.

[Bard The 5th LW]

EDIT: Although since AB said that it can be done between players, we should probably have a referee that we can PM to, for the above mentioned reason. Preferably Bard or Dante because Geminex/Impact is just too damn evil in plain sight, I can't help thinking that he would support Pierce for the purpose of global domination. :3

I've got a bit of free time, so I can handle refereeing. Just need a proper uniform.

I edited a few changes into Charlotte's movesets also. Buck (arcanine) and Hammond (aerodactyl) are the only ones who have changed.

[Dracorion]

I meant the species name. Renny has no idea that she is a Nagarai. It's pretty unique/new so I was assuming the scanners didn't have her data. I can edit it if needed be.

Really? I don't see any reason why the scouters shouldn't have info on her. Nagarais are rare, not legendary. If the scouters have info on legendaries and extinct pokemon like Kabutops and Aerodactyl, they should have info on her.

I came up with a couple of unique attacks for Enmakki.

Dark Abyss: Enmakki engulfs the target in itself, probing their mind and sending them into a deep sleep where they'll face their worst nightmares cranked up to eleven. 100% chance to inflict sleep status and Nightmare.

Dark Abyss causes Nightmare because I wanted it to be different from Spore. Of course, I realize that getting constant Nightmare damage + Bad Dreams damage + Enmakki's Dream Eater spam could be overpowered, so we can scrap that if AB wants.

Valley of Death: Enmakki strikes the finishing blow, ripping out a sleeping target's heart. 40% chance to insta-kill sleeping target.

[Menarker]

Only thing about Valley of Death? I could understand OHKOing... but ripping heart out and killing outright as opposed to making them faint? >_> Something in me is screaming HELL NO!

I should ask if I can have a custom move or two too in the future. *Shrugs*

EDIT: Btw, just how tall is Nagarai supposed to be? I'm somewhat getting the vibe that since you built her character as if she was supposed to be Pierce's perfect match-up (in her mind), and that Renny is a bit shorter, that her Double D boobs are fairly close if not alligned with the height of his eyes.

Awkward/Awesome.

[Dracorion]

Well, that's what Enmakki does.

If it helps, Pierce still has his strict no-kill policy. He wouldn't let Enmakki use that on anything that isn't a Ruin pokemon or a Ruin General. And Ruin Generals are immune to statuses.

Though, I certainly wouldn't like Enmakki killing anyone during the battle Pierce is supposed to catch it. Either it has it but doesn't get a chance to use it, or when used on trainer pokemon Valley of Death only gets to make a rip in the pokemon's chest before it returns to the pokeball, still very much alive.

Of course, then Pierce wouldn't have any reason not to use it on trainer pokemon, and I kind of wanted him to use it only for Ruin pokemon, to keep Enmakki happy with Ruin souls.

EDIT: EDIT: Btw, just how tall is Nagarai supposed to be? I'm somewhat getting the vibe that since you built her character as if she was supposed to be Pierce's perfect match-up (in her mind), and that Renny is a bit shorter, that her Double D boobs are fairly close if not alligned with the height of his eyes.

Awkward/Awesome.

Nagarai's profile. (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1026336&postcount=64) Height is in there. I don't know how tall Renny is, so it's up to you to decide if her boobs are asphixiating Renny. If they are and Renny dies, I can't see Pierce complaining.

[Menarker]

Normally, I would consult that bio, but "lack visible breasts" does not equal Marshmallow Hell, so there is a bit of difference between what your bio has and what is actually displayed about Nagarai. But judging from height alone, he's about the same height, so I would say no. Which is probably a good thing, because while Pierce wouldn't complain, chances are she would. And she would express her volatile emotions with high voltage emission.

[Dracorion]

Yeah, I knew that.

But since it's my made-up pokemon, I just decided that those were Nagarai's boobs before the pokesapien proceedure.

[Geminex]

EDIT: Although since AB said that it can be done between players, we should probably have a referee that we can PM to, for the above mentioned reason. Preferably Bard or Dante because Geminex/Impact is just too damn evil in plain sight, I can't help thinking that he would support Pierce for the purpose of global domination. :3

Grah! That's Impact! The "damn evil" is just good roleplaying! (And besides, it's not in plain sight to your characters, and he isn't all that evil yet.) Anyway, I'm nice! I'm friendly! I am rather warlike, yes, but that's a hobby! I don't want world dominAhahahahahaNO.
Ok, so maybe world domination. But that's all.

Though if anything, I'd say Menarker should be refereeing. You seem to have the most experience with the games, so you should be able to evaluate attacks' effects well enough. Besides, you seem to have a lot of time. Also, we should be using random number generators to determine whether attacks hit, or whether they have additional affects. There's tons of those around.

Though like I said above, I'd be totally willing to do it too. And I would remain neutral. What's in it for me anyway, if I were to tip the odds in favor of Pierce? Drac sure as hell wouldn't show graditude.

Oh, and in regards to divide... dividing an air slash and getting two 70% chances to flinch smacks of min-maxing. I'd propose that, when you use divide, the attack's damage is halved as usual, and the probability of the secondary effect applying is halved as well.

I will not join your discussion on Nagrai's breasts.

[Dracorion]

And I would remain neutral. What's in it for me anyway, if I were to tip the odds in favor of Pierce? Drac sure as hell wouldn't show graditude.

Well, I would. Pierce wouldn't. But Impact probably wouldn't know that.

I will not join your discussion on Nagrai's breasts.

It's okay if you're not into the pokeymanz, but seriously, have you seen the knockers on that broad?

What? You were asking for it.

[Geminex]

I am going to believe that, regardless of what it says in the bio, Nagrai is male. Or, rather, transexual. I will view all interaction between Pierce and Nagrai in this light.

[Dracorion]

Whatever helps you deal with your giant mancrush.

[Geminex]

Would now be the appropriate time to insult your mother? I really don't know how these slanging matches work. Just assume my response was mildly witty and questioned your sexuality far more definitely than you questioned mine. Also assume that it includes reference to your loving Tyranitar's string shot.

[Menarker]

Well, I wouldn't mind referring for any match that isn't my own. I would probably end up using DnD dice rollers/number generators like Gem said and a bit of math to determine accuracy via percentage and all that for pokemon related stuff. Slayers... will be harder, but I'll try to make it fair.

Most of my pokemon experience comes from TONS of reading of pokemon stuff online and books and juggling the bits of info or lore that I get from manga/anime (Thanks bulbapedia!). Otherwise, the latest generation of games I've played was Emerald. So while I HAVE played a lot of Red, Yellow, Ruby, Crystal, Emerald, the later games I'm more or less reading Bulbapedia and PsyPokes and Serebii and all that. :3

[Dracorion]

So Impact doesn't like Aria. What a surprise.

It's so very very tempting to make her switch her affections to Impact instead. You have no idea.

[Geminex]

What'll be hard about Slayers? We'll have to ask AB for Impact's base stats (I was thinking 80 across the board, though considering the influx of high-powered pokemon that trainers are getting, that does seem like it's enough...), so we know where they're placed, but other than that, Slaying doesn't involve too much in terms of probabilities, does it? Their attacks always hit, and they don't have evasion modifiers.

And I'm not sure how that would end. At all. Though I will remind you that Impact usually carries around the Dragon Slave. So don't have her do anything that could be interpreted as aggression.

And speaking of Dragon Slave, my offer still stands. If you let Impact fight Shizuka first, he'll let you borrow his blade when it's your turn. The rivalry will the yours, you'll owe me a favor.

[Dracorion]

Technically you already get Pierce following Impact's orders unless he has a better idea. I was hoping in exchange for first dibs. And hopefully the Dragon Slave, but that's not really necessary.

By the way, if Aria dies, Impact dies.

And Impact just slipped up. He called Renny's pokemon monsters. That's gonna raise some flags. And because I just made the observations, you get no takesy-backsies.

[Menarker]

So hey... big party to come. Let's see all the NPCs open to chat with.

PACTA:
Rayleen
Rachel
Lola
Whitney
Harriette
Dormond

Formerly Evil Eevee Eight:
Shannon
Moon
Evangaleen

Kimonos:
Shizuka
Kiyomi
Mika

Renny's Household:
Dominic (Renny's Father)
Maria (Renny's Mother)

And that's not including the PCs and the pokemons, both in the PC's possession in the ones in the possession of the NPCS.

Total babe-fest. :3

I also noticed the monster thing, but wondered if anyone noticed. Didn't bring attention since my character obviously had no way of knowing. :3

[Geminex]

No slip-up. That was intentional. And besides, what's wrong with it? They are called "Pocket Monsters". It's a valid abbreviation.

And that bargain's cool.

[Dracorion]

Sword and all?

EDIT: An addendum. Pierce will follow Impact unless he has a better idea or he's been picked leader, or he's superpissed.

If it helps, Pierce isn't going to be suited very well for leadership if we go the whole "Sam getting brainwashed" way. He'll be all angry and irrational.

[Geminex]

Sword and rivalry for this:
Pierce following Impact's orders unless he has a better idea?
Fuck yeah. I can always expand on that later.

[Dracorion]

Read my previous edit.

[Menarker]

Funny thing about Charlotte's testimony? She claims that when she hears "orders" from Renny, she think of them as suggestions. She is correct in that almost every time Renny gave an order to Charlotte, he had phrased it in form of a suggestion or request like "These pokemons seem like they would be quite vulnerable to fire type moves. Can you do something about that, Charlotte?"

In addition, while Charlotte DID attack first during the negotiation period, Moera did state with her "dying breath" that she had no intention to do peaceful talks. So negotiations did get completed even though it resulted in failure, no fault of Charlotte.

[Bard The 5th LW]

She wasn't paying attention. She was preoccupied with watching the blazing child-pyre. Renny simply rolls along with Charlotte's interpretations to. Charlotte Beaufort is an unreliable narrator.

When Charlotte goes off on a mission, she doesn't think, 'Lets go defeat them as a team' she thinks, 'Woo hoo time for some blood. Whats that? Yeah you guys can come to, I guess.'

[Geminex]

I love how quick everyone is to jump at Impact's first mistake. Ah well, response in a second. Water-tight.

[Dracorion]

Niiiiiiice.

Of course, from Pierce's point of view, if Impact's telling the truth then Pierce is a pretty unicorn princess.

He's still staying out of the conversation, but if he were butting in he'd ask how Impact changed his mind.

Yes, I'm sending Bard a subtle hint.

[Geminex]

"Changed his mind"? How? All the said was that, in Raindale, people called Pokemon "Monsters". Never said that he hated pokemon. Never touched on his own feelings about pokemon at all!

[Dracorion]

If he didn't hate or resent pokemon, why would he call them monsters, regardless if it was the norm in his home town?

[Geminex]

Dialect. If calling them "monsters" is the norm in the community, then anyone growing up there will do so as well.

[Dracorion]

Well, I respectfully disagree.

Unless he didn't know until the word "monsters" was forever imprinted in his mind that they were actually called Pokemon or Pocket Monsters.

[Menarker]

Raindiale is a town that calls the creatures we call pokemon as "monsters"
Said town lived in fear of pokemon terrorism
Impact said that the town viewed pokemon as monsters.
Term "Monster" is used as a sort of rebellion or resistance as Impact said, a slur as it is. A sort of "FUCK YOU" and discriminatory name to pokemons.
Dialect is hardly an accurate term given how it came as a direct long term instillation of negative responses from pokemon. While it's believable that it may have been habitual, the statement of it being just a randomly selected abbreviation... not so believable.

Very similar to that anime Pokemon episode featuring the Yas Gym and the Kas gym. They fought using the town as a battleground, pokemons becoming rampant and violent in gangs. End result being that pokemon trainers from outside are octraized and mistreated by ordinary citizens in fear that they would be recruited by one of the gyms and cause problems. Wild pokemons similarly may have been treated this way too out of fear of pokemon and for worries that a trainer from said gyms might catch and use it.

[Geminex]

You're treating names as something absolute. The only reason anything is called anything is if the general consensus is to call it that. "Bread" is only called "Bread" instead of, say, "Branchwobbles" because everyone calls it bread. If the majority of people that Impact had contact with call pokemon "Monsters", then he'll adopt that. Oh, sure, he'll be aware of the fact that people in other towns call them "Pokemon", but that wouldn't mean that he'd call them that as well. Language changes. Language evolves. That's the entire reason for the existence of dialect or slang.

Edit:
And, regarding Menarker, I'm not saying it doesn't have negative connotations. What I am saying is that his accidental use of the phrase says less about his general inclination towards pokemon, and more about his history of living in a society that had a fully justified negative opinion of pokemon. And besides, they are called monsters. Pocket monsters, but monsters nonetheless. As far as slurs go, that's a weak-ass slur.

[Menarker]

Well, there are terms that are recognized that are not acceptable, even when used as slangs such as real life terms used toward negros. (I won't go any further into it lest it becomes a political flame war).
The populance use them as a sort of measuring stick. If you're one of those "monsters", then you're not one of us. If you're not one of us, you're better off dead or somewhere else. That seems to be the gist of what Impact's experience was like.

But yes, your edited in statement was more or less what I was reaching at. Although that doesn't mean that it isn't ingrained in some way. :3

And as a slur, it's actually pretty powerful. To be called a monster is similar to being called a beast. And typically, if you're called a beast, it's similar to being called sub-human, a brute, suitable as a beast of burden. A savage of the wild without the notion of civilization. That sort of thing.

Just opinion though, and none which impact Renny directly at this point since he doesn't know a thing about it. :3

[Dracorion]

You admitted yourself the negative connotations of the word monsters. It's an insult to pokemon, as Menarker said, "A sort of "FUCK YOU".

Now, people don't use terms with negative connotations unless they don't like the thing they're insulting. You don't call a black person a nigger if you don't hate them. So for Impact to call pokemon "monsters" before he would've had to dislike them, and now he's claiming that that's all in the past, as in not in the present, meaning he changed his mind about pokemon being "monsters". My question is what made him change his mind.

[Geminex]

You admitted yourself the negative connotations of the word monsters. It's an insult to pokemon, as Menarker said, "A sort of "FUCK YOU".
Yes, I admit that. Though considering that even when you use their "proper" name, you call them "monsters", there's really not very much offense. Not nearly as much as there is in derogatory terms for black people.

And hell, while he was still in Raindale, he wasn't aware of any negative connotations. It wasn't really a "fuck you". It was a description.

[Dracorion]

And hell, while he was still in Raindale, he wasn't aware of any negative connotations. It wasn't really a "fuck you". It was a description.

This is what I needed to know. Although you gotta admit it isn't exactly evident from Impact's explanation.

In defense of the term pokemon, that's what they've been called since forever, it doesn't really carry negative connotations anymore. Everyone's just used to it. The fact that there's people like Renny who love and care for pokemon proves that there's no insult in the word.

And Pokemon doesn't inherently sound very insulting. I mean, would you feel more offended if I called you a Pokemon or a monster?

[Menarker]

Well, then the question is... Why did Impact choose to be a Slayer, out of all professions like a snagger or a trainer or some other non-pokemon related profession like a merchant or doctor? The choice to be a Slayer is pretty much forthcoming collabrative evidence. Your job is to personally put down or downright kill pokemons. It's much easier to believe that Impact did know what the term was or that he used the term with the intended negative emotion like hatred or revenge if his future was to go a step further and deal powerful and even lethal blows to them as a career.

[Geminex]

"Needed to know"? How?

Though I'd imagine they weren't called Pocket Monsters until pokeballs were developed. How long ago was that, would you say?

I mean, would you feel more offended if I called you a Pokemon or a monster?
That depends. If the norm is "monster", then pokemon would be worse. If the norm is "pokemon", then monster would be worse. No word has inherent negative connotations, those exist only in interpretation.

But anyway, let us end this line of conversation, it is getting boring.

As our characters grow more awesome, we're totally gonna need theme songs, for when we're all being awesome.

Edit:
Well, then the question is... Why did Impact choose to be a Slayer, out of all professions like a snagger or a trainer or some other non-pokemon related profession like a merchant or doctor? The choice to be a Slayer is pretty much forthcoming collabrative evidence. Your job is to personally put down or downright kill pokemons. It's much easier to believe that Impact did know what the term was or that he used the term with the intended negative emotion like hatred or revenge if his future was to go a step further and deal powerful and even lethal blows to them.

*game show buzzer*
Wrong line of argument! Logical fallacy, right there. You're assuming he hates pokemon, and looked for the profession that would most easily let him kill pokemon to avenge himself. Even if your character could formulate this train of thought (which he can't because it uses OOC knowlege, the only sign that you have so far of him disliking pokemon is his utterance), it'd be wrong. His goal was to fight crime. The only available job was slayer. Or do you suggest he should have gone trainer? How would that make sense? He went slayer to join the police force, to fight crime. Kill pokemon is an added bonus.

[Dracorion]

"Needed to know"? How?

Because if Impact didn't know the negative connotations, there's no reason for him not to have referred to them as monster if everyone else was.

Although Menarker makes a good argument. It's much more likely that he did know the connotations, especially considering his career choice.

As our characters grow more awesome, we're totally gonna need theme songs, for when we're all being awesome.

Well, I haven't decided on anything yet, but I'm reserving Clash Under the Big Bridge.

[Menarker]

Well, like I said, Renny has nothing to do with it. This is all OOC discussion trying to jigsaw pieces of info into whatever form of logic we can. Whether it actually comes out right... will be determined at a later point. Otherwise, I would just point to your bio page which clearly shows Impact hating on pokemon... a lot. :3

What I'm saying that the choice to be a Slayer does not help Impact's case, because at worst, he's revenge seeking monster hating racist. At best, out of all the careers that he has chosen, he chosen a law enforcement in a field specific against Pokemon. Even if he was a saintly Slayer, it's more or less assurance that whatever happened in Raindaile impacted him strongly and that he probably understood the meaning, even if he didn't actually believe in it. Unless you want to say that Impact reason for being a slayer was something more like "I want to wear a uniform and drive a car with flashing blue and red lights that go WOO WOO WOO WOOOOO!" And by your admitance, killing pokemon is a bonus. Quite a bold statement that killing any sort of being with sentience as a "perk" of a job.

I don't have much of a selection of background music, since being hard of hearing, I don't listen to music that much and thus have a poor variety to choose from. At best, I would choose some sort of video game music. Don't know which one at the top of my head. Probably Cave Story's "Last Battle"? For more heart warming music, I select some from Lufia 2, FF6. And for a "Destiny" sort, something from Lunar Eternal Blue.

EDIT: Got some ideas here. Of course, if you think my choice sucks, feel free to suggest some yourself.

Character theme. Yes, I chose a town song.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEWxevMs0iE

Depression: "Geothermal" http://www.miraigamer.net/cavestory/xm.php *You have to scroll the songs a bit for anything from this url.*

Sense of Destiny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvXKF8k9Oko&feature=PlayList&p=0EB39F1CC04A8591&playnext_from=PL&index=43&playnext=3

Epic Battle: "Last Battle" http://www.miraigamer.net/cavestory/xm.php
OR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBnYGYa6l3M&feature=related

Outside Battle Desperation AKA Critical Junction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbQL_b18Wzc&feature=related

[Geminex]

I would point out that the bio is simply a psychological evaluation of Impact, made by the military. What it says isn't 100% accurate. For those of you protesting, I'd point you to Matt's backstory, which says jack-all about him, but we're going to accept whatever he comes up with anyway.

And yes, Impact hates pokemon. But he represses this hatred up to a point where it doesn't control him. Channels it, if you will, into short-term and long-term goals. I'm sure I've explained this before. Any actions he takes won't be hate-driven, unless he's going absolutely berserk.

Think of it this way: Impact's actions will have 4 motivations:
Primal: Motivated by pokemon-hatred, very rarely shows itself directly, but influences his likes and dislikes
Instinctive: Driven by training, usually only comes into effect when in a combat situation
Short-term: Driven by a desire to stop people from getting harmed by pokemon, usually effective during missions, when not in combat, and, frequently, in between missions
Long-term: Driven by a desire to cure society of pokemon. This has the most emphasis

Basically, any action he takes is driven by a combination of those 4 motivations, he sort of balances them out. He places the most value on Long-term, usually, but that depends on the situation. Bookmark this page, because I'm sure as hell not going to explain it again.

Oh, and when he turns evil, "Freeing society from pokemon" will be gradually displaced by "power".

Anyway, his decision to become a Slayer was short-term and long-term. His actions in combat with pokemon will be instinctive and short-term. Appreciation of pokemon death will be hatred-driven, but unless he loses control, he won't intentionally cause pokemon death.

[Menarker]

Hehe. Funny situation... Given how the rest of you guys are practically undergoing verbal PvP in the van, Renny is going to end up the best friend of everyone, just because he isn't in the same room. Impact and Pierce will have butt heads too many times, Matt might be seen as an questionable enigma with a pointed tongue and all that sort of thing. Charlotte... well, everyone fears her or think her unpredictable or restrainable or something. Just by process of elimination, Renny will end up being best friends just because while his hugs and enthuasiam is distasteful, his behavior toward everyone has typically been helpful, earnest, honest and very civil with practically no barb in his words. Funny since otherwise, Pierce and Impact both hate Renny for the most part.

*Shrugs* Just seemed amusing to me.

EDIT: AB is going to run out of sexy pics at the rate that we fill up these threads. ^^;

[Astral Harmony]

Hello, guys, I'm back.

I mostly read what's been posted here and I don't really have anything to say in response. Keep up the good work.

Now I'm off to update.

[Menarker]

Just for the sake of you looking up questions, there was a few brought up.

1: In regards to Divide, when using attacks that do damage and thus would have their power reduced, do special effects that have a chance to get added remain at the same percentage or are they reduced in some way? Example would be if my Magnezone uses Thunderbolt, which has a 30% chance of paralysis. Does it have 30% chance of paralyzing both foes it hit same as it hit only a single foe, or does it get reduced by something like half in addition to the damage being cut by half?

2: In regards to PvP, what is the base stats of slayers and pokebrids, for when one of us is acting as referee between the match?

Can't recall any other urgent questions atm.

[Astral Harmony]

Good questions. Let's see here...

1. Chance to inflict status effects is also halved, but here's something you should also consider. The chance to inflict status effects increases if the target Pokemon is weak against the attack type, and even slightly moreso if STAB is involved. In other words, you might decide to not try something like that unless you have the type advantage over multiple foes.

2. Slayers are even across the board as far as statistics go. They're neither experts nor are they weaklings in any one area. They usually overcome this issue with application of their accessories and whatnot.

Pok?brids outside of a Paradigm Shift sort of blend Slayer and Pokemon statistics. If you feel like calculating, it's basically adding those two statistics and dividing by two. When in a Paradigm Shift, though, you add those two statistics without dividing at all. A Paradigm Shift'd Pokebrid is hardcore. One more thing. A Pokebrid can remain Paradigm Shifted for three turns and three turns alone per battle. And they cannot use both Paradigm Shifts in the same battle which means they also cannot use both SynchroTechs.

[Geminex]

2. Slayers are even across the board as far as statistics go. They're neither experts nor are they weaklings in any one area. They usually overcome this issue with application of their accessories and whatnot.

Yes, but what are the numbers? You've mentioned that they're average, but what is average, in this case? 80? 85? The latter might be a bit above-average, but considering the fact that there's just one of him, and trainers can pack as many powerful pokemon as they like, base stats of 85 or even 90 don't seem excessive. Renny's overgrown hedgehog would still be more powerful.

[Astral Harmony]

Hmmm...well, how about 100? That's a solid number. It's got a ring to it.

[Geminex]

100...

:)

Yes. Yes it does. Solid. Nice ring. It is a very nice number with lots and lots of wonderful connotations and if anyone dares protest against it, I will reach down their esophagus, rip out their gall bladder and stuff it down their windpipe because that number is mine now and I will never let go of it ever.

Post is quite excellent.

Fun song choice for karaoke, though I can't see Rayleen as being sexy, naughty, or bitchy. What I can see her as is being corrupted by Impact's demonic mind control (coming soon to a brain near you!) when her rage is reawoken.

The Nagrai totally needs to get up on stage for Karaoke and sing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFEfmbAeEDY
It would be awesome. Even if it's sung at Impact.

[Menarker]

I don't mind, but do keep in mind what that entails. Slayers would be considered equal to power of a pseudo legendary, equal to a standard Shaymin in all ways.

Stamina is as enduring as Swampert which is only a few points shy of most high legendaries like Lugia.
Attack is as strong as Machoke.
Defence as hardy as Blastoise.
Special Attack is as strong as Dragonite.
Special Defence is like Tentacruel and Venusaur.
Speed as fast as Dodrio.

^^ so yeah. Seems weird in proportions for a human, although I can say that's the power of the most basic of the basic of Slayer uniform equipment and such.

Post is neat, although Renny's parents would be shocked for a few reasons. :3

[Geminex]

Well, I explain attack and special attack with the fact that, as I've mentioned previously, he's pretty good at pokemon anatomy. He knows where to shoot or stab them to hurt them especially badly. HP, defense and special defense would be provided by armor, and cover. I don't know what he's wearing, but I'll assume that it makes him very capable of resisting damage. Plus, if it's well-trained, the human body can resist quite a bit of punishment. As for speed... he plans ahead a lot, so let's just assume that whenever he finishes one action, he's in position for the next one.

And besides, if your overgrown hedgehog can have those stats, then so can Impact.

There. See? Perfectly rational and justified. Now open your mouth, or I'll have to break your jaw in order to get at your esophagus.

[Menarker]

Shaymin is tied for one of the smallest pokemon in the game. Same size as a Digglet, although a bit bigger in flight form (not ridable though). Oversized it isn't.

[Geminex]

Overgrown in this case meaning "to be covered in grass and foliage". I am, however, placated by the fact that this is the only point you argue again. You may keep you gall bladder.
*glasses flash*
For now.

[Dracorion]

Psst. AB, made up moves for Enmakki. Approve 'em, goddamnit.

Dark Abyss (Dark): Enmakki engulfs the target in itself, probing their mind and sending them into a deep sleep where they'll face their worst nightmares cranked up to eleven. 100% chance to inflict sleep status and Nightmare.

Dark Abyss causes Nightmare because I wanted it to be different from Spore. Of course, I realize that getting constant Nightmare damage + Bad Dreams damage + Enmakki's Dream Eater spam could be overpowered, so we can scrap that if AB wants.

Valley of Death (Dark): Enmakki strikes the finishing blow, ripping out a sleeping target's heart. 40% chance to insta-kill sleeping target.

Named as such because I needed a badass name and in the dream the target will be transported to a barrren valley where their nightmare will kill them horribly.

Yes, Valley of Death actually kills the target, even if it's a trainer pokemon. Thanks to Pierce's self-restriction, it'll only be used on Ruin pokemon. For the battle against Enmakki during Pierce's sidequest, it won't have Valley of Death. I'm not going to reveal why it won't have it, but there's a perfectly good reason.

Gem, I think Nagarai will sing that song. It's perfect.

AB, that's your cue to name Aria. Go nuts.

[Menarker]

Well, ask the Kimono questions, a bit of PvP maybe. Engage in conversation and what not, let the pokemon play/relax or whatever. Once things look like they are slowing down, I'll pick up the plot a little with a little revelation before we get into the meat of the thing.

[Dracorion]

There like a pond or a pool or something for Kingdra to play in? It's the only one of Pierce's pokemon aside from Aria that would enjoy the party, really.

Maybe it'll mess around with Swampert and Shaymin.

[Menarker]

Yup, there is. And Kingdra is welcome to join in the rough-housing. Renny's pokemon don't exactly have the negative or vicious streaks that some of Charlotte or Pierce's pokemon have, so long as the other pokemon or people aren't being assholes. Although your other pokemon can just sit around, relax and eat food. They don't have to be playing, but fresh air and being out of the pokeball probably would count for something even if they aren't party animals, just like how Renny's Umbreon is just dozing and eating and sitting out.

[Dracorion]

Well, Metagross is so indifferent it would just sit around, not because it's tired or sleepy or whatever, but because it's so indifferent. No point to letting it out.

And if Blaziken and Tyranitar could be convinced to get away from Pierce they would either go sparring or have gay sex, neither of which would be very respectful to Renny's parents or safe. Their sparring would be more like epic roughhousing, especially since a stray Fire Blast from Blaziken could bring the house down.

And if they had gay sex I can just imagine Renny's parents walking into a random room and finding everything torn apart, scorched, with weird sticky white stuff all over the place.

Really, Kingdra is the nicest of Pierce's pokemon. It's really like one of Renny's pokemon. Although on occassion it can be a little mischievous, it's still playful and cute when it does.

[Menarker]

Well, in Metagross's case, it's pretty similar to Magnezone. I don't expect they'll chat or anything, but it couldn't hurt (Just stand around and look "cool"). Plus, you could have Metagross act as an extra pair of eyes against Ruin types or such.

The others... yeah, thanks for not bringing them out. ^^;

EDIT: Although now that I think about it, Magnezone's magnetic pull ability might cause some slight trouble with Metagross. Just a bit. :3

[Dracorion]

Kingdra is definitely going out.

We could put Metagross and Magnezone on different parts of the house.

Or maybe they'll fuse together and become Magnegross! A triple-typed Steel/Electric/Psychic pokemon, with utter control over minds and technology! It is a GOD! MwehehehehahahahHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!

AB should let us do that, definitely. Magnegross' stats are Metagross' + Magnezone's. And it gets badass combo attacks that I haven't come up with yet. A combo attack is one of Magnezone's attacks and one of Metagross' with both moves' powers combined. It could work kind of like a Paradigm Shift, only lasts three turns.

Seriously, it'll be awesome.

[Menarker]

Just the idea itself is awesome. ^^ I'm all for it! Metagross will be the base, stomping around powerfully and using mental attacks, and Magnezone be the head and heavy blaster.

^____^

If Rachel accidently sends out the other steel type pokemon (And Evanganlee's Magnezone), the magnetic attraction force would cause them to be connected and we might end up with a LIVING ZORD!
MY GOD! HOW BRILLIANT! Against a ruin general (maybe titanic in size), that would be fucking INCREDIBLE!

[Dracorion]

Fuck yeah!

Magnegross' stats are both pokemons' combined, it has both their abilities, held items, and can pick from both their move lists.

Seriously, 1135 base stats! You don't get more awesome than that. For three turns, it'd be a slaughter.

For party purposes, maybe AB can let you switch Magnezone's ability from Magnet Pull to Sturdy.

I'm wondering who Pierce should PvP with first. After Shizuka, I mean.

Impact or Renny? Hm. Maybe Charlotte. Yeah, I think he'd go for Charlotte.

[Astral Harmony]

No fusion. This is Pokemon, not Shin Megami Tensei. And if you try to make it happen somehow anyways, I'll have all your fusion Pokemon killed by a Chanleetop (try to guess which three fighting types were fused to make that one).

Too bad it wouldn't always work. Like you couldn't make a Slakidash (Slaking and Rapidash). That thing would fall all over itself.

Ugh...a Tangrocruel.

Rio: "So many tentacles...it's a girl's unspoken sexual fantasy come true!"

[Menarker]

Let's see...

Bastiodon, Empoleon, Bronzong, Metaleon, Registeel, two Metagross (Pierce and Rachel) and two Magnezone (Renny and Evangaleen).

Batiodon would be the hard mace/fist. Bronzong will be the other hand with the sharp bladed form of Empoleon's fitted inside the bellshaped opening to form the blade hand! Registeel the body, Metagross be both feet, Mangezones be both legs and magnetic power source holding them together... and Metaleon the cute head or even a hair-piece of Registeel.

THAT'S THE PATCA-ZORD!

EDIT: Awwww man... ah well. Live the dream.

[Dracorion]

Oh come on! It's just fucking awesome, AB. You know you want to.

Seriously, not even just Magnezone and Metagross?

[Astral Harmony]

Yeah, maybe as a boss monster.

...

Hmmm...

[Dracorion]

Well that's not fair at all.

Seriously, we promise to only use it for big battles.

Alternately, we could only use it for small battles, so you can have your boss battles as awesome as you want without some 1135 base stat godling fucking shit up hard.

Hell, we could use it after the part of Pierce's sidequest where he reveals his past to everyone to signify their renewed trust. You gonna argue with character development that is both heartwarming and fuckin' awesome?

[Menarker]

I say we do it anyway, but as an canon omake.

Renny: "Pierceeeee!"
Pierce: "Ugh... what now..."
Renny: "I was thinking... My magnezone has this magnetic power that pulls steel pokemon toward itself. Evangleen has one too. You got a Metagross and so does Rachel, among some other steel type... I was wondering if we can't improvise something..."
Pierce: "Hmmmm... Let's ask Kiyomi. She's the mechanical genius."

*Minutes later, several pokemon summoning, and stacking pokemons on top of each other like some freak elephant stacking circus event from the Dumbo movie...*

Kiyomi: "It's the most beautiful thing I ever seen." *Tears*
Pierce: "Fucking AWESOME!"
Charlotte: *Video camera*
Renny: "With this, we can defeat anything! We'll win against the Ruin types and stop Faynoc's reign of terror!"
Rachel: "Rayleen, are you sure they'll be alright?"

Metagross (Both): You're all fucking heavy...
Magnezones (Both): Power draining...
Registeel: Arms feel like leaden pudding...
Bastidon: *Being gripped by Registeel by the legs* This is painful and demeaning...
Bronzong: *Being gripped by Registeel by the face and is unintelligeble*
Emploeon: *Stuck up Bronzong's open ended bellshaped "ass" to form the blade piece* "This doesn't mean I'm gay, right?"
Metaleon: *Sitting on Registeel as the headpiece* "THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME! RIGHT GUYS!?"
All other steel types: "FUCK YOU!"

Rayleen: This has got to be breaking a few PATCA legislation...

Magnezone (Both): "Power depleted..."

*They all collapse like Jenga pieces landing HEAVILY and creating lots of holes in the ground...*

Kiyomi: "It was beautiful while it lasted..."
Impact: "It was... interesting for 5 minutes..."

[Astral Harmony]

Well, since we seem to be doing all kinds of weird science shit, I suppose it's possible. BUT! It's going to be an upgrade for later so you're just going to have to wait. Besides, you'll need some time to explain it to your Pokemon...

Renny: "Magnezone, I need you to hook up with Pierce's Metagross!"
Magnezone: *eye suddenly opens wider than mechanically possible*
Renny: *hand on forehead* "Not that kind of hook up."

Down the line, it'll lead to other upgrades, like maybe a dual-wielding ability for Impact complete with a bigger active loadout to make that very attractive.

[Dracorion]

That would suck. Like, balls.

If it's not functional, it's not worth it.

Well, it would be a little worth it, but not a lot.

Can it be an upgrade, at least a one-time thing, for Pierce's sidequest. Seriously, heartwarming badass fuckin' awesome character development. Besides, with the final battle I'm thinking about, especially if it includes Faynoc, we're going to need it.

[Menarker]

I still want to do it as a canon omake while the mood is light-hearted and Kiyomi is around. :3

EDIT: If we're combining all those pieces, the base stat bonus is going to be a hell of a lot higher... like over...

Harliette: "9000!"

Renny: ... I think we'd need a bit more pokemon for that.

God, all sort of genre mix up and internet memes. :3

[Dracorion]

I still want to do it as a canon omake while the mood is light-hearted and Kiyomi is around. :3

Sure, we can fuck around with PATCAzord, as long as we still get functional Magnegross.

[Menarker]

Ok, so I'll wait a few posts for people to ask the kimonos or NPCs some questions. Then I'll start to fuck around with the PATCAzord (Shouldn't take long), then I'll do my revelation afterwards (Some PvP can take place at the same time as the revelation if the PvP isn't involving me.) Then we'll go from there with PvP or continue with the overall story.

The zord thing isn't exactly too far fetched since giant pokemon have been around in the anime since the first year, with that Super Sized Dragonite wrecking havoc on Bill's Lighthouse in an early episode and then that massive Tentacruel smashing cities and causing huge floods.

[Dracorion]

AB, goddamnit.

Psst. AB, made up moves for Enmakki. Approve 'em, goddamnit.

Dark Abyss (Dark): Enmakki engulfs the target in itself, probing their mind and sending them into a deep sleep where they'll face their worst nightmares cranked up to eleven. 100% chance to inflict sleep status and Nightmare.

Dark Abyss causes Nightmare because I wanted it to be different from Spore. Of course, I realize that getting constant Nightmare damage + Bad Dreams damage + Enmakki's Dream Eater spam could be overpowered, so we can scrap that if AB wants.

Valley of Death (Dark): Enmakki strikes the finishing blow, ripping out a sleeping target's heart. 40% chance to insta-kill sleeping target.

Named as such because I needed a badass name and in the dream the target will be transported to a barrren valley where their nightmare will kill them horribly.

Yes, Valley of Death actually kills the target, even if it's a trainer pokemon. Thanks to Pierce's self-restriction, it'll only be used on Ruin pokemon. For the battle against Enmakki during Pierce's sidequest, it won't have Valley of Death. I'm not going to reveal why it won't have it, but there's a perfectly good reason.

By the way, I don't know if you're doing this, but you don't actually have to wait for everyone so you can do your bigass one-a-day posts right now. We're not in the middle of a battle.

You can go ahead and let the NPCs interact with each other and with the PC and answer questions PCs pose to NPCs as they come.

In fact, I think that would be preferred.

By the way, Dominic and Maria make remark on group. Doesn't realize that two of the Pokegeddon Pokesapiens were in Renny's room a few weeks ago. ^,^

Did I miss something? Because if Renny got his hand on Pokegeddon's Gardevoir before Pierce, I'mma be pissed.

[Menarker]

Read first post more carefully. :3

http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37643

Although technically, Renny never had his hands on them.

[Dracorion]

Ah. Well in my defense it was forever and a downtime ago.

Thanks for reminding me of that picture, though.

[Menarker]

My pleasure. It's my favorite out of the lot (and there was quite a few faves to choose from).

[Dracorion]

So, what do y'all think of Nagarai so far?

Should I tone down the sexual harrassment a bit?

[Menarker]

So you're the designated combination of Brock and James of PATCA?

Brock: Repeatably had a human or pokemon inflict bodily harm or nag him if he pays attention to any other women or starts attempting to be a womanizer. Never ends up with a girl except for the one time which ends up being a trauma for him.

James: Repeatably have a pokemon that harms him during their moment of affection, like Victrelbell or Cancea.

There is precendant, so I guess we're cool. ^^

Have fun being the designated butt-monkey of the group. :3

Seriously though, we're all mature enough to handle the stuff that you come up with thus far.

Leaving for work now. See you all later.

[Dracorion]

Pierce will never be the butt monkey, because Aria would never hurt him. Well, she might hurt him like she did now: a little bit so she could "fix his boo-boo".

But she'll usually try to hurt whatever woman is getting Pierce's attention instead of her.

[Geminex]

...

Magnegross...

What the hell is this crap? Seriously, what the hell is this crap? I mean honsetly, what the hell is this crap?

The only way I would be even halfway willing to accept that is if their combined speed was quartered, they'd be a steel/steel/electric/psychic type and they had no way to avoid ground moves. Because 8x ground damage, fuck yeah. In fact, I don't care how many more steel pokemon you add to the mix, as long as your speed keeps dropping and you keep adding more steel to your types. Ground attacks would deal 2048x damage to your huge Patca-zord. 2048. Go for it.


Though the dual-wield sounds pretty sweet.

[Dracorion]

Seriously, quarter speed? Both Magnezone and Metagross can fly! Well, hover, but it still counts.

I'm sort of okay with their speed being halved, not quartered.

And seriously, there's no reason why Magnegross wouldn't have Magnet Rise. It'd only be for three turns and it'd be on our side, what's the problem?

I realize you might have an inferiority complex because trainers seem to be getting all the cool stuff and you don't get to be all that cool.

But I feel obligated to remind you that you get half-demon stats, then obscene full-demon stats and mind control. And Ruin weapon and armor, while none of the rest of us can (well, we could probably get Ruin pokemonon our teams, but the only one that would want one is Charlotte).

And now dual-wield. If that's what I think it means, you'd get to dual-wield Dragon Slaves, making you our best attacker for Ruin pokemon. Seriously, effectively 8x damage. You could maybe even coax AB into making it 16x, if he's drunk and you sell it really really really really well (it'd be easier if you had Impact's mind control in real life and it worked over the internet).

If you want AB to accept your ideas more, don't give up on 'em so easily and make sure to present them well.

Seriously, we're probably going to have to help Dante get some better upgrades.

[Geminex]

It'd be something I couldn't kill with ease. That's the problem.

"No reason"? Well, for one, magnegross is extremely, extremely, heavy. Additionally, I'd assume that its magnets are busy holding the two together.

But ok, fair enough. I hadn't considered that it'd only be 3 rounds. It's fine. I guess.
As long as impact gets his dual-wield later.

Edit: Ok, ok, I submit under your onslaught. I shall object no more to Magnagross. Though every time it gets used Impact will mutter something about how silly this is.

It's not so much inferiority as it is... well, I guess, general balancing. Not just for gameplay reasons, but for the sake of the story as well. It is very easy for us to acquire new superpowers, but I'm afraid that if we get too many we'll go all dragonball-. Sure, let's get more powerful, but going too far along the anime curve won't do the RP much good. We can't have everything be awesome, otherwise it'll get, well, boring. And rather ridiculous. This is also one of the reasons I protest against too many legendaries.

And besides, Slayers aren't too underpowered. The accessories are a pretty big help, and, while I can't match trainer's performance in a double battle, if I get to dual-wield, that'll certainly change, since I'd get just as many attacks as them, and if I use an adrenaline boost, I'd have base stats of 150 across the board. I'd still have plenty of weaknesses (insta-kill, status, stats), but that'd be balanced, most certainly. And as I hope to show in PvP, a well-prepared Slayer (even without dual-wield) can beat, or at least come close to beating, a trainer. As long as the trainer only deploys one pokemon. And agrees not to use items.
ANYWAY.

As for this...
If you want AB to accept your ideas more, don't give up on 'em so easily and make sure to present them well.
...
Dude. Do me a favor. Consider the current state of the RP. Consider the amount of things in this RP that I proposed or came up with. Then re-evaluate your comment about presenting your ideas well.

And we need some sort of contingency plan, how to continue the RP, should the forum go down again for some inconceivable reason.

[Dracorion]

Right, sorry.

But really, I suspect that AB's got some really epic shit planned for us. Like we'll need crap like dual-wielding and legendaries (maybe not Magnegross, but that's more like icing on the cake), to survive.

Of course, I could be wrong and I probably am.

[Geminex]

On second thought, I'm not even sure I'd want the dual-wielding. I'd much rather see what can be done with accessories and demonic powers. If I do get dual-wielding, that might even make things a bit imbalanced. Impact's already stronger, albeit more vulnerable, than a trainer in 1-on-1 combat...

Argh. Perhaps we should leave it to AB to decide who gets what upgrade. I'm in no mood to consider balancing. For once.