The Disappointment of Comedy Central

[Raiden]

The word Muhammad is now a censored word on television.

Congratufuckinglations, extremists. You've solidified that there is something American Free Speech does not cover. God I'm disgusted.

It's not even about a TV show. It's about the fact that this whole thing has gotten so bad, we're forbidding people from saying a NAME on goddamn television. This isn't fucking Voldemort, it's Muhammad, a figure that MUSLIMS are not allowed to show because it would cause reverence to him instead of their deity.

But thanks, Comedy Central. You really showed the cut of your jibb tonight.

Also, before people say "No, bleeping his name was part of the joke!", here's proof that CC and the networks bleeped it and not the creators:

http://rigel.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/84/84d77dba8eedea848a72910e5c6da9adbe16b4ca.jpg

[Premmy]

....... So?

[POS Industries]

So it's good to know that terrorist threats work.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I'm going to blow up comedy central studios if all their shows don't include at least one reference to how awesome I am.

[EVILNess]

I'm going to blow up comedy central studios if all their shows don't include at least one reference to how awesome I am.

It's comments like this that make me think you have a dissociative disorder.

[DFM]

I'm going to blow up comedy central studios if all their shows don't include at least one reference to how awesome I am.

I'm going to carry on their legacy and censor your explosion.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

It's comments like this that make me think you have a dissociative disorder.

I'll dissociate your disorder.

[EVILNess]

I'll dissociate your disorder.

The only thing this proof is missing is pudding.

[Osterbaum]

Personally I feel that *beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep* and that *beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I think you are safe, no extremists are going to miss with Finland.

[Tev]

Guys....I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that was the joke. It was punctuated very nicely by large cut of the ending speeches.

That being said, I did kinda wonder if the death threats posted up on that extremist website towards the creators triggered the editing, but if it did they managed to get a whole episode sound and video edited in under a day and managed to still make their point funny. So either the edit job was planned before hand, or these guys are damned amazing at their job.

Sorry, I was that guy....who didn't read the last half of the first post.

[Raiden]

Guys....I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that was the joke. It was punctuated very nicely by large cut of the ending speeches.

That being said, I did kinda wonder if the death threats posted up on that extremist website towards the creators triggered the editing, but if it did they managed to get a whole episode sound and video edited in under a day and managed to still make their point funny. So either the edit job was planned before hand, or these guys are damned amazing at their job.

Somehow, Tev, I don't think it takes too long to bleep out the word Muhammad. And South Park was unable to stream the new episode on their site because they didn't have CC's edited version and were not allowed to broadcast the non-edited version.

Also, the website had posted the addresses and living residences of Comedy Central execs and the South Park Creators, "just in case someone wanted to contact them". Before it got hacked by 4chan anyway.

[Tev]

I wonder if we'll get a non-edited version on the DVD release of this season....

[krogothwolf]

The Comedy Network didn't censor the name Muhammad, SO HA! CANADA ROCKS!

[Osterbaum]

I think you are safe, no extremists are going to miss with Finland.
Except the ones who come from THE INSIDE.

[Fifthfiend]

Congratufuckinglations, extremists. You've solidified that there is something American Free Speech does not cover.

Seriously?

EDIT: Tell you what let's make a deal, Muslims chill out about the use of Mohammed's name or whatever, and we stop invading their countries, killing millions of them, overthrowing their governments, installing vicious puppet governments, and destroying their legitimate secular institutions.

[Osterbaum]

It's Fifth! Quick, someone censor him!

[Fifthfiend]

You're oppressing my American Free Speech!!

EDIT: From Finland!

EDIT: FINLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt148/fifthfiend/emoticons/doom.gif

[Professor Smarmiarty]

EDIT: Tell you what let's make a deal, Muslims chill out about the use of Mohammed's name or whatever, and we stop invading their countries, killing millions of them, overthrowing their governments, installing vicious puppet governments, and destroying their legitimate secular institutions.

But that's tradition. You can't argue with tradition.

[Aerozord]

but thats the thing, there is nothing wrong with saying Mohammed according to their religion. Though they already did that with the image of him in the Family Guy episode. As I've always said, the terrorists won. The moment you give into fear and intimidation they win. Sadly America has reached the point that safety and security is more valuable to your average citizen then freedom and civil liberties. "Those that give up their liberties for temporary safety deserve neither, and will lose both"

[Fifthfiend]

But that's tradition. You can't argue with tradition.

My Civic runs so much sweeter when they mix my gasoline with the blood of children.

[Osterbaum]

You're oppressing my American Free Speech!!

EDIT: From Finland!

EDIT: FINLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
Tell you what, when your popular culture and political culture stop invading my country, I'll unFinnish you.

[Aerozord]

you know its not a violation of free speech. Comedy Central owns the show, they can edit it however the hell they want. Networks do this all the time to avoid dealing with FCC and media watch dogs.

[krogothwolf]

Seriously?

EDIT: Tell you what let's make a deal, Muslims chill out about the use of Mohammed's name or whatever, and we stop invading their countries, killing millions of them, overthrowing their governments, installing vicious puppet governments, and destroying their legitimate secular institutions.

But the Roman's were allowed to invade :(

[Archbio]

you know its not a violation of free speech. Comedy Central owns the show, they can edit it however the hell they want. Networks do this all the time to avoid dealing with FCC and media watch dogs.

I don't think that means it's not censorship. Or a capitulation of free speech.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

My Civic runs so much sweeter when they mix my gasoline with the blood of children.

The reason we keep our cars to grossly inefficient 1920s design and it's that sweet sweet smell of arab poverty in our gasoline fumes.

[Tev]

But the Roman's were allowed to invade :(The Romans were allowed to do a lot of things. Do you want to wind up like the Romans did with a crazy inbred emperor and Germanic barbarians kicking down their doors ushering in a few hundred years of Dark Ages?

[DFM]

you know its not a violation of free speech. Comedy Central owns the show, they can edit it however the hell they want. Networks do this all the time to avoid dealing with FCC and media watch dogs.

Violating your own free speech so someone else doesn't do it first doesn't really make it not a violation of free speech.

[krogothwolf]

The Romans were allowed to do a lot of things. Do you want to wind up like the Romans did with a crazy inbred emperor and Germanic barbarians kicking down their doors ushering in a few hundred years of Dark Ages?

Yeah, that sounds pretty sweet.

[Tev]

Yeah, that sounds pretty sweet.
You won't be able to log into NPF and your children's children's children will never know the joys of comercial space travel.

[krogothwolf]

You won't be able to log into NPF and your children's children's children will never know the joys of comercial space travel.

Pssha! Who needs commercial space travel! It's not like they have very much travel locations to choose from. "Which barren rock would you like to go to today kids? The Grey one or the Red one?"

And they'd get to kill barbarians in my world, and go on quests to find the lost holy relics of the holy empire!

[Tev]

And they'd get to kill barbarians in my world, and go on quests to find the lost holy relics of the holy empire!The quest to find an un-opened package of AAA's so that you can get your GBA working and play some Pokemon?

EDIT: Or maybe the one to a terminal that can access the cache of lost library of Wikipedia?

[POS Industries]

Tell you what let's make a deal, Muslims chill out about the use of Mohammed's name or whatever, and we stop invading their countries, killing millions of them, overthrowing their governments, installing vicious puppet governments, and destroying their legitimate secular institutions.
Well, I mean, I guess when a couple cartoonists have anything to do with the US government's imperialist foreign military policy we can get right on that.

[krogothwolf]

The quest to find an un-opened package of AAA's so that you can get your GBA working and play some Pokemon?

EDIT: Or maybe the one to a terminal that can access the cache of lost library of Wikipedia?

Exactly! See now you're thinking correctly! This world would be a better place if everyone had to quest for things.

[Meister]

Exactly! See now you're thinking correctly! This world would be a better place if everyone had to quest for things.
Have you ever read a book called The Road?

[krogothwolf]

Have you ever read a book called The Road?

You just had to ruin my dreams with a logical representation of what would actually happen should the world descend into madness didn't you?

[phil_]

The Romans were allowed to do a lot of things. Do you want to wind up like the Romans did with a crazy inbred emperor and Germanic barbarians kicking down their doors ushering in a few hundred years of Dark Ages?Rome existed as an empire with an emperor for another 65 years after the Goths sacked Rome, and even then existed as a political force for another hundred years (or until the current day, if you count the Rome-originating Catholic Christian church). And really, what were the barbarians supposed to do? Stay up north and be slaughtered by Attila's hordes? Rome's downfall was a mixture of having the emperor spend all resources on keeping the army happy so they wouldn't kill him, overstretching those resources, and a thousand years being a long, long time so it was gonna happen eventually.

Gosh, think before you post.

Oh, and quests are neat. Much better than grinding mobs.

[Tev]

Gosh, think before you post.I still think there were Dark Ages....history pretty much backs me up on that. "It's gunna happen eventually" is not a valid excuse in this day and age either. The day it happens is the day everyone fires off their nuclear weapons and we, as a planet, stop happening.

[Raiden]

Just really a major disappointment. In a matter of a week, Muhammad jumped onto the censored name list.

First you could show his image because no one cared, then you had to censor it. Then you could at least say his name but now you can't say that either. Muhammad has become He Who Shall Not Be Named.

Does that make the extremists Death Eaters?

[Tev]

Muhammad has become He Who Shall Not Be Named.

Does that make the extremists Death Eaters?Or Phyrexians...you know, if you wanna get nerdy about it.

[krogothwolf]

I still think there were Dark Ages....history pretty much backs me up on that. "It's gunna happen eventually" is not a valid excuse in this day and age either. The day it happens is the day everyone fires off their nuclear weapons and we, as a planet, stop happening.

Actually, History doesn't back you up because one of the reason's it's called the Dark Ages is there was little history recorded during that time in the regions the dark age actually effected. Considering the Byzantine Empire was still around, aka the Easter Roman Empire, The fall of the Western Roman Empire caused everyone to war with each other in that region for supremacy while east of that everything else trucked on fairly normal. The Dark Age's also saw the rise of the Arab Empire to the south of everything. Then by the 800 the west finally got it's act together and came back. So from 400-800 AD the only area really overly screwed during that time was Western Europe. The as everything started getting back into the grove of things the Holy Roman empire popped it's ass in the things by going fuck you I'm taking over middle europe bitches. It really wasn't overly that much more screwed then the times before it, just didn't have the crazy all power romans to boss everyone around.

[phil_]

I still think there were Dark Ages....history pretty much backs me up on that. "It's gunna happen eventually" is not a valid excuse in this day and age either. The day it happens is the day everyone fires off their nuclear weapons and we, as a planet, stop happening.I'm just saying don't blame the barbarians. They had little effect on the downfall of Rome. Rome was falling just fine on its own without them.

There is no intentional metaphor here.

[Tev]

So I spent some time reading the blog (http://revolutionmuslim.blogspot.com/) on the site run by the New York based extremists that caused this whole mess....

I gotta say, they are a long winded bunch. And maybe I really am the great jaded Satan they make me out to be, but really I'm not feeling much more than a "get in line" feeling towards the oppression they are raging about. I mean, I'd put gay marriage higher on the "to fix" list than coming to an agreement over which religious figures need to be shielded from mockery.

That’s what I get for subscribing to the idea that Free Speech is free I guess. In their world I’d not even have bothered to read what they had to say.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Well, Yeah leaving the US sounds awesome now since the US is now officially a nation of pussies.

Someone seriously needs to bright smack this country. In fact we need a preaz with some ballz if that's what it'll take for freedom.

[Premmy]

Someone seriously needs to bright smack this country. In fact we need a preaz with some ballz if that's what it'll take for freedom.

Patriot Act took Hella balls.

[Mesden]

Seriously?

EDIT: Tell you what let's make a deal, Muslims chill out about the use of Mohammed's name or whatever, and we stop invading their countries, killing millions of them, overthrowing their governments, installing vicious puppet governments, and destroying their legitimate secular institutions.

Hey now we kill non-muslims too!

[Solid Snake]

Yeah, Matt and Trey commented that Kyle had a final speech about intimidation and fear.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ixtNaqRpSqti8gDHGSyN8lXBhQjAD9F8E8C82

...It's actually altogether ironic that a speech intended to probably mock Americans for being so afraid was cut by Comedy Central because Comedy Central was afraid.

[The Wandering God]

Matt and Trey are still obligated to do shows for them til 2013. I wonder if this will be the last time they renew that contract.

[bluestarultor]

Matt and Trey are still obligated to do shows for them til 2013. I wonder if this will be the last time they renew that contract.

You can bet that if CC drops them, they'll have other networks clamoring to pick them up. South Park has become an icon over its run.

[Tev]

I expect that the 2013 contract negotiations are going to be a little more involved than Comedy Central would want. I'm betting on a forced-hand deal that gives the creators far more control over how their property is broadcast. Since, as Blues pointed out, they are more of a cultural icon now they can wheel and deal with more authority.

Because really, if another network is willing to take them in and give them more control over their project then there really is no good reason not to move.

[krogothwolf]

I don't know, a network still has to have limitation opposed on every program they produce. The same standard for that specific time slot. As soon as they give South Park that kind of free reign they lose a lot of negotiating points to other programs. So either they would have to limit the restrictions on a whole or tell South Park they can't. The only network I can see giving South Park free reign like that is HBO and no one wants that!

[Tev]

The only network I can see giving South Park free reign like that is HBO and no one wants that!Coming Fall 2014 to Cartoon Network's Adult Swim line-up: South Park!

[synkr0nized]

Ugh, as if they didn't have enough bad shows.

[Aerozord]

just about any network would do the same, so its not too much leverage. Heck if they didn't already have alot the episode probably would have been pulled. To be fair CC did do this in part to protect Matt and Trey as if the threats were carried out they'd be among the top target. I mean you cant physically attack CC, especially since its just part of a much larger corperation. Only people you can really threaten are those involved in the show and the execs, and their anger would be more directed to those that do the show.

Keep in mind I doubt they'd follow through with their threats, just saying its probably the logic they are using.

[Viridis]

The Daily Show comments. (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-22-2010/south-park-death-threats)

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

The Daily Show comments. (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-22-2010/south-park-death-threats)

Mind finding a site that doesn't block Canadian users?

[Tev]

I saw that last night. I really hope he keeps those background singers on retainer or something.

[krogothwolf]

http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/#clip290972
jeez :p shouldn't you have learned this by now! :p

[Viridis]

Thanks, krogothwolf.

To be fair, it's your fault for living in Canada anyway.

[krogothwolf]

Thanks, krogothwolf.

To be fair, it's your fault for living in Canada anyway.

Yeah well, I bet on Sunday we get a lest edited version then you guys got :p

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Yeah well, I bet on Sunday we get a lest edited version then you guys got :p

I really love our uncensored South Park don't you?

[krogothwolf]

I really love our uncensored South Park don't you?

It's censored, they just generally don't go over board...generally. Best part was, although super best friends was pulled elsewhere, it was on again later on during the week here!

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

It's censored, they just generally don't go over board...generally. Best part was, although super best friends was pulled elsewhere, it was on again later on during the week here!

I've heard plenty of shit's and fucks on South Park when it airs at 7pm.

[Aerozord]

Comedy Centrals real crime, is making Canada seem like a nice place to live. Thats, thats just horrible

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Comedy Centrals real crime, is making Canada seem like a nice place to live. Thats, thats just horrible

Don't blame Comedy Central, blame our low crime rate and free healthcare

[Osterbaum]

Blame Canada! Blame Canada! It seems that everythings gone wrong since Canada came aboard...

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Blame Canada! Blame Canada! It seems that everythings gone wrong since Canada came aboard...

Aren't you from Finland?

[Aerozord]

Aren't you from Finland?

thats right, and he still knows Canada is plotting against us. Just admit to your lies and secrete plans to create hockey based weaponry to invade the US, and burn down the White House... AGAIN

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Yes yes. You have caught onto our plans with us infiltrating your media with the likes of Celine Dion, and William Shatner.

[krogothwolf]

Celine Dion
I thought she was sent to torture people in vegas as a way for us to get rid of her?

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

I thought she was sent to torture people in vegas as a way for us to get rid of her?

Hush. You'll spoil the plan!

[DFM]

Hey now we kill non-muslims too!

Accidents don't count.

[Premmy]

Bowtie wearing Muslims don't count either.

[POS Industries]

Bowtie wearing Muslims don't count either.
Yeah, I mean, those are just black guys. Our nation was founded on killing them. Or at least working them to death. Same diff, amirite? =DDDDDDDD