Pokemon Umbral Discussion 15: The PCs Think Their GM Is Smart. That's a Laugh.

[Astral Harmony]

Gardevoir Crosses Over Into Street Fighter

http://images.uncyc.org/commons/9/93/CammyGardevoir.png

I think it works.

First off, I barely plan anything. To be honest, I've mostly just thrown Pokemon at you and created shit on the fly. The fact that some of this can actually come off as a challenge or something surprises even me.

Second, sure, the whole color coding things you want me to notice in orange will be very helpful, thank you.

*random selfish desires he'll never shut up about until he gets 'em 'cause he's a whiny little bitch

I'm very likely going to create a wacky mission somewhere in the plot where the PCs enter this bizarro world where they actually get what the real people controlling them want them to have.

Would you settle for a weapon that turns defeated enemies into bromides? It'll be like Lunar 'n' shit!

This is Pokemon, not Disgaea.

And Renny will continue to live. In fact, out of all you bastards, he's the only one who deserves to live after all the goddamn bitching. I have half a mind to make Dinner roll a one on a Kamehamehameha Wave and everybody but Renny and the female NPCs get annihilated in the blast. Then Renny is crushed by the overwhelming task of having to use those female NPCs to repopulate the world.

*a question that doesn't piss me off*

There's only a delay if there's enemies in the house, which may happen shortly. Fortunately, you can keep stat boosts and you won't have to do a one-for-one tradeoff.

*something that made me smile

Two Pokemon using Follow Me on each other will crash the universe. It's just like successfully dividing by zero. In fact, I'll derail the whole RP into an entire new world if you really want to do that. You can forget Ruin Generals, you can forget Ruin Pokemon, you can forget PATCA and Faynoc and everything you knew about Pokemon Umbral. Just do it, see if I don't derail this whole RP into a bizarro world unlike the one I mentioned above. C'mon, it might be fun.

*stuff about upgrade powers*

Yes for NPCs, no for enemies. The only reason I didn't do it that turn is because I'm retarded. That may not've been what you wanted to hear about it, but that's what I'm telling you because I don't lie.

*hatin' on Pokebrids, now*

Whitney: "Why e'erbody always pickin' on me? I'm a large-breasted woman who looks like a Gardevoir cosplayer. What else do they want?"
Armored Bishoujo: "I think they want you back in the kitchen. Impact wants a sammich."

Seriously, you didn't get enough hot, steamy debate action so now you're bringing Pokebrids into it? Matthias went out to buy a length of rope, thanks to you! I think you should wait until you've seen what I'm going to be throwing at you until you decide that Pokebrids need to be downgraded.

EDIT 1: Fine, I'll accept the terms on Pokebrids and start numbering turns. Damn, when you're not whining about not getting the upgrade you wanted, you whine about balancing. Fuck balance. It wasn't there to begin with and it certainly isn't coming to a theatre near you anytime soon. We've all tried time and time again to bring balancing to Pokemon Umbral. Me? I honestly don't care anymore. Even if it was balanced, you guys would just find something else to whine about. It's silly when I come home and a discussion thread that was on page 5 when I left is now on page 12. What happened? You guys got bored and then started filling pages with what's fair and what's not fair about Pokemon Umbral right now. It's difficult enough when I have to do two-to-three hour posts in the RP thread, but I've already spent an hour and a half dealing with discussion thread hijinks alone.

Please, please, for the love of god please try to remember that this is Pokemon Umbral, not Pokemon the games, not Pokemon the movie, not Pokemon the trading card game, not Pokemon the cereal, and not Pokemon the flamethrower (the kids love it). I encourage creativity out of all of you because that justifies me throwing you in crazy-ass battles because I'm certain you'll think and fight your way out of them. That's why I approve a lot of what I see. I just kind of wish that everything that comes about isn't debated over five discussion threads because someone is calling foul.

EDIT Finale: So, what I'm going to do right now is go away. I'm sorry, but I won't be posting tonight. I've got other chores.

But I need your help with something. I want all this debating out of your systems right now. I regret to inform you that I cannot find a balance (that's what happens with having different classes like Slayer and Pokebrid. World of Warcraft couldn't do it, how the hell could I?), so I'm going to leave it to you. You may have already decided that you found it already. Good, I'm glad, and then we can proceed from there. But please, if there's anything further, I want it worked out before we proceed any further. As it is, I might as well just give Geminex, Menarker, and Dracorian joint GM Power and just kick back every night while they take the RP for themselves. This used to be fun to do. Now I dread getting off of work every afternoon. How ridiculous is that to feel like I don't want to come home from a hard day's work, knowing Pokemon Umbral is waiting the moment I jump on the Internet?

[Dracorion]

You realize that if Dormond keeps his attack boost, we can make Street Fighter Gardevoir into a very real thing?

Fine, let's not nerf Pokebrids.

Renny still has to die, though.

[Menarker]

Gardevoir Crosses Over Into Street Fighter

And Renny will continue to live. In fact, out of all you bastards, he's the only one who deserves to live after all the goddamn bitching. I have half a mind to make Dinner roll a one of a Kamehamehameha Wave and everybody but Renny and the female NPCs get annihilated in the blast. Then Renny is crushed by the overwhelming task of having to use those female NPCs to repopulate the world.



Yay!

^^

So, Dormond keeps his increased stats when he goes over to Impact's side. I guess that could be of use.

Anyhow, I guess we'll see what AB is planning to throw at us before requesting any nerfs. At least due to me sending out Dormond and using Lola for support, the issue which caused the last debate isn't an issue anymore since we have no one else to use Psych Up (on my side at least)


Also AB, we were talking about NPC pokebrids. We (or at least I) intended to let Matthias keep all his potency as he did before with no limit whatsoever.

[Dracorion]

Tell you what, AB. I'll offer you a deal.

Renny dies, forever, and I will never ask for anything ever again.

This is a special one-time offer! If you turn it down, I will never shut up.

[Menarker]

I think AB should seriously consider that Bizzaro World, but have a "mortal choice" in Pierce's case...

Option 1: He has all the girls that he could possibly want... but he has to share them all with Renny, who is never more than a minute away. (If he tries to kill Renny, something bad would happen)

Option 2: No girls, no Renny.

Anyhow, thanks for your patience AB! I know that we're a bunch of nutcases sometimes, but I think that's part of the fun, and at least we're mostly mature about the entire debates (At least I think of everyone being mature). Personally, I love upgrades and updates (and I think one of the reasons for the arguments was that they are comparing my update with themselves as they are now just because my sidequest was first, instead of comparing it to what they would end up recieving in due time.)

[Dracorion]

Yes for NPCs, no for enemies. The only reason I didn't do it that turn is because I'm retarded. That may not've been what you wanted to hear about it, but that's what I'm telling you because I don't lie.

Frankly I don't remember what I asked about here but I'm pretty sure I was just asking.

Option 2: No girls, no Renny.

Pierce would seriously consider this. I mean, sure, it involves entering into a long-term relationship with his right hand. But then again... no Renny.

(and I think one of the reasons for the arguments and that they are comparing my update with themselves as they are now just because my sidequest was first, instead of comparing it to what they would end up recieving in due time.)

What?

[Menarker]

I think the question was about whether the NPCs had access to the upgrades that we do. Like whether NPC trainers like Dominic and Shannon had access to Focus and Divide or if Rayleen had access to Sweep like Impact does. So according to AB, NPCs on our side can have all the upgrades we do, but our foes don't.

[Geminex]

Please, please, for the love of god please try to remember that this is Pokemon Umbral, not Pokemon the games, not Pokemon the movie, not Pokemon the trading card game, not Pokemon the cereal, and not Pokemon the flamethrower (the kids love it). I encourage creativity out of all of you because that justifies me throwing you in crazy-ass battles because I'm certain you'll think and fight your way out of them. That's why I approve a lot of what I see. I just kind of wish that everything that comes about isn't debated over five discussion threads because someone is calling foul.

Well, we manage to debate more or less everything without having to take it to you. The psych-up thing was just a minor thing.
...
Though have we reached a conclusion on that now? Is everyone ok with half-power? I don't think we need to nerf pokebrids, we just need to slightly nerf one move and we'll be fine. For now. I'll even drop my further criticism of Renny's breeder. Yes, I promised that before, but none of you took me up on it.

And why does Drac hate Renny so? Jealous of Lola?

[Astral Harmony]

No, we'll nerf the NPC 'Brids. I want balance as much as the rest of you wackos. It's just so hard with multiple classes (and we only have four! [and one of them isn't be used right now!]).

You do realize that when Renny dies, he'll become the first PC demon, right? Yes, there's a real hell where people in this insane world are supposed to go, but Fujiko has plans for that one. She likes really cute boys. Don't ask.

And do you know how difficult it would be to arrange a situation where all the female characters san Charlotte exit the scene with Renny forever? I...somehow I think I can make it happen, but...

It's times like these that make me understand why people smoke and drink and fuck. For a 28 year old, I don't do any of those three things (I game and game and game instead).

[Geminex]

You do realize that when Renny dies, he'll become the first PC demon, right?

FUCK YOU, DRAC, RENNY LIVES!

We can tie him up, though.

And I really don't think we need to nerf the pokebrids. What is it with you guys and your balancing, it's like an OCD. Just let them be. Live and let live.
:3

I want balance as much as the rest of you wackos.
Then make me responsible for it. I'll give you...
*evil grin*
*glasses flash*
balance.

[Dracorion]

EDIT Finale: So, what I'm going to do right now is go away. I'm sorry, but I won't be posting tonight. I've got other chores.

But I need your help with something. I want all this debating out of your systems right now. I regret to inform you that I cannot find a balance (that's what happens with having different classes like Slayer and Pokebrid. World of Warcraft couldn't do it, how the hell could I?), so I'm going to leave it to you. You may have already decided that you found it already. Good, I'm glad, and then we can proceed from there. But please, if there's anything further, I want it worked out before we proceed any further. As it is, I might as well just give Geminex, Menarker, and Dracorian joint GM Power and just kick back every night while they take the RP for themselves. This used to be fun to do. Now I dread getting off of work every afternoon. How ridiculous is that to feel like I don't want to come home from a hard day's work, knowing Pokemon Umbral is waiting the moment I jump on the Internet?

Ah, damnit.

See, now we feel like crap.

Okay, okay. Let's see if we can try to work out a system where, if we absolutely have to argue about anything (even if it's a seeminlgy minuscule, harmless and easy thing), we'll take it to IMs.

Because, well, come on. As new things come up we're going to want to argue.

Though have we reached a conclusion on that now? Is everyone ok with half-power? I don't think we need to nerf pokebrids, we just need to slightly nerf one move and we'll be fine. For now. I'll even drop my further criticism of Renny's breeder. Yes, I promised that before, but none of you took me up on it.

Yes yes, half power for Psych Yp.

You do realize that when Renny dies, he'll become the first PC demon, right? Yes, there's a real hell where people in this insane world are supposed to go, but Fujiko has plans for that one. She likes really cute boys. Don't ask.

That's why I requested he stay dead, forever. Especifically, not coming back as a demon. Or a ghost. Or a hallucination. Or anything.

And do you know how difficult it would be to arrange a situation where all the female characters san Charlotte exit the scene with Renny forever? I...somehow I think I can make it happen, but...

I will throw a hissy fit.

FUCK YOU, DRAC, RENNY LIVES!

We can tie him up, though.

Stay dead forever.

Then make me responsible for it. I'll give you...
*evil grin*
*glasses flash*
balance.

Did you feel that? A disturbance in the Balance. Like thousands of voices cried out "HELL NO" and were suddenly mind controlled.

[Menarker]

Half power psych up.

Pokebrids fine as is.

Do debates on PMs and IMs instead if there is ever a need, which I hope we won't have to.

Much apologies AB.

[Astral Harmony]

I think the ultimate problem is that too many NPCs are Pokebrids in the first place. We've got Dormond, Rachel, Lola, and Whitney. Rachel and Lola may not need the nerfing simply because on occasion they'll be required by you PCs to forfeit their turns for using another item, anyways.

Yep. Therein lies the problem. I really need to shave off the NPC combatants. Create kind of a "deployment slot" system where you guys will debate-

*sigh* (sorry, Bard)

...about which characters to bring along, with restrictions like "only one Battle Master and only two of these" or some other junk. It'll also give me the opportunity to flex some creative muscle and create even more NPCs! Then you'll just be at a candy store or some shit. After all, it kinda feels like you're the only PATCA agents in Honmyr, doesn't it?

[Geminex]

See, now we feel like crap.
Seconded. Most of this is all in fun. Competition, insults, none of it is serious. And yeah, sorry. We totally appreciate what you do in the RP, trust us on that. This is awesome, and you're the one keeping it alive. You're the heart. The rest of us? Brain, testicles, appendix, gall bladder, whatever. I think we can keep the discussion to a minimum, I'll certainly shut up more often.

Edit:
Though the above comment, regarding doing the balancing myself, that was totally serious. Going through threads, considering what's too strong, what's too weak? I do that anyway. I can summarize it, make recommendations. Hell, you won't even have to read these threads! I'll compile everything, put it in a PM, send that to you. Or just post it publicly, while I'm at it. That'd help, wouldn't it? I'd be perfectly willing to discuss stuff with people, and usually the only reason I'm competitive is that I'm making up for really being powerless. Actually give me power, I think I can be impersonal.

[Dracorion]

Yep. Therein lies the problem. I really need to shave off the NPC combatants. Create kind of a "deployment slot" system where you guys will debate-

*sigh* (sorry, Bard)

...about which characters to bring along, with restrictions like "only one Battle Master and only two of these" or some other junk. It'll also give me the opportunity to flex some creative muscle and create even more NPCs! Then you'll just be at a candy store or some shit. After all, it kinda feels like you're the only PATCA agents in Honmyr, doesn't it?

This idea. I love this. Let's do it.

But what does Bard have to do with it?

[Menarker]

Bard expressed how he hated that we would *Sigh* in our posts instead of some other way to display exasperation.

And yeah, I never took any of their comments harshly at all. Yeah, the debates ran long, but I never felt really upset or pressured about it all. It was more like a game in a game. But I don't want to put any pressure on you, since your writing style and imagination is pretty much what makes this RP awesome.

[Astral Harmony]

Wasn't it Bard who complained about us sighing in the forums?

Anyways, I'm sorry, too. Today was rough and hot and sweaty and loud and ten hours. I thought my Chief said he was going to get me out of this shit because I was a good ET. Breaks my heart.

What'm I doing in the Navy now? Watching construction men work. There's little air conditioning to the room, more than half of them are using some power tool or another, and they've been put on extended hours. I'm there because apparently they're helpless in the event that a welder or something starts a fire. Good lord, these are construction workers! They're supposed to be able to handle easy shit like knowing what to do when their power tools start a fire.

[Dracorion]

Ah, well. Bard is silly.

Y'know, a concern arises.

That we might end up filling up Discussion threads with useless posts (like this one) instead of arguments.

[Geminex]

I find that while we're not arguing we really don't fill up threads that quickly. And besides, we don't have to discuss balancing. We can discuss character motivations, girls, sidequests, girls, Pierce's sexuality, girls. Lots of stuff to argue about.

[Astral Harmony]

This is my last day off, I promise.

Yep, definitely applying this Deployment Slot system after Renny's Sidequest. It'll allow me to shrink the battles down which will cut down on the post time which will allow me to do more awesome things...

Like maybe instead of Pokegeddon omakes being a post in this thread, I could make them into a sprite comic. It certainly won't be hard to find Pokemon sprites, that's for damn sure. Gonna have to edit boobies on 'em, though.

[Menarker]

You do realize that when Renny dies, he'll become the first PC demon, right? Yes, there's a real hell where people in this insane world are supposed to go, but Fujiko has plans for that one. She likes really cute boys. Don't ask.


... Wait a sec... How the hell does Renny end up in Hell upon death? Is there no such thing as heaven in this pokemon universe? Or is Renny's behavior technically immoral and sinful or such? Or does the netherworld desire his body and soul so very much?

[Astral Harmony]

Ummm...a wizard did it?

Anyways, if we're going keep talking in the discussion thread, we should maybe on occasion talk about the RP.

Because there's really no such thing as happiness in this RP when concerning Pokemon/Trainer relationships, I'll adjust something about the moves Return and Frustration:

Allied Pokemon Using Return: Return deals more damage when it first enters the battle. Return loses power as the battle drags on. It is at its weakest on Turn 5, and this weakening power continues even if the Pokemon is recalled.
Allied Pokemon Using Frustration: Frustration deals the least amount of damage when it first enters the battle. Frustration gains power as the battle drags on. Frustration maximizes on Turn 5, and this increase continues if even the Pokemon is recalled.
Enemy Pokemon Using Return: Return deals the greatest amount of damage when the Morale Integrity Value is 100%. It deals the least amount of damage when an Overwhelming Tide condition is inflicted.
Enemy Pokemon Using Frustration: Frustration deals the least amount of damage when the Morale Integrity Value is 100%. It deals the greatest amount of damage when an Overwhelming Tide condition is inflicted.

And now, Armored Bishoujo presents...

The Grand List of How to Get Into Female NPCs Pants

Rayleen: First, leave the agency. Rayleen doesn't believe in inter-office relationships. Then flat out ask her out. She'll most likely say "yes" just for kicks.
Rachel: She's actually pretty easy to get. Just treat her to cheesecake and Dance Dance Revolution.
Lola: Lola envisions the ever ridiculous "knight in shining armor riding a white horse" nonsense. Anybody got a Rapidash?
Whitney: Well, she's obviously going to like a guy who is very much like her brother Wyatt was. Wyatt was protective and sensitive who placed Whitney's comfort and happiness before all else in his life.
Charlotte: Her phone number is in a bathroom stall. I can't tell you which one.
Shannon: She doesn't exactly know it herself, but Shannon's pretty much romantically fixated on Moon. Sorry.
Evangaleen: Evangaleen's a party girl! A guy who loves to drink and dance and fight will definitely have her (mostly undivided) attention.
Jeanette: Far too possessed with the next scientific breakthrough to care about the needs of the flesh.
Shizuka: Sharing dreams and stories of justice and whatnot will easily get your foot in the door. Getting the rest of your body inside will depend on what you say next.
Tsubasa: Get in her face. Don't let her get distracted with anything else. Be nice but be persistent.
Kirie: Defeat her in battle and she'll have her uninterruptible focus on you. Now you just have to kind of guide that focus to this nice queen sized bed you have here.
Chizuru: Get ready to act like a total sap.
Rio: Despite any claims to being bisexual and the fact that she flirts endlessly with just about anybody, Rio is and always will be Kiyomi's.
Kiyomi: Kiyomi is Rio's love slave. She just doesn't act the part most of the time.
Takano: Strive for perfection, then realize that you never should've bothered. Sure, Takano's a really nice catch, but you can find hotter babes with less effort needed.
Mika: Brush up on your magical lingo. You should also have some candy. Sure, Mika's actually over a century old, but she still looks like a little girl and this is just creeping me out.
Nyoka: Does not have sexual organs. Does not pass go. Does not collect $200.
Fujiko: Not difficult to get at all. Even your oldest pickup lines could land you a victory. But you want her when she looks human...right?
Harliette: Harliette likes 'em rugged, ruthless, and rough. Having a motorcycle is a sure-fire trump card to her affections.
Discord: Murder Lucian Caprico and successfully impersonate him to catch her off guard. You're going to have to take her by surprise and by force.
Maria: Murder Dominic and impersonate Snorlax. Like shooting fish in a barrel. ...Wait, what?

[Geminex]

I am literally this close to writing Impact Omake, whereby he tries to find a girlfriend. Seriously, I'm already getting ideas.

[Dracorion]

Okay.

I think, I think, I thought of a way for Pierce to get both Chizuru and Shizuka.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I am literally this close to writing Impact Omake, whereby he tries to find a girlfriend. Seriously, I'm already getting ideas.

Do it. I command it to be so. http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:wKncOErlHOdLkM:http://www.j-isle.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/code_geass_r2_1500575317-10-59.jpg

Edit: I got a virus. be out of commision for a bit.

Edit2: main comp refusing to turn on. Using laptop. Hopefully I can fix later today. You still have to do the omake.

[Astral Harmony]

Maybe Impact can find the Lovenote. It's like the Deathnote, but it's more about hooking up and less about killing.

[Menarker]

Ow... my head...

Up where it said anyone wanting Maria having murder Dominic and imitate a Snorlax...

Then I heard the sounds of jackhammers from construction work outside my house.

Big Fatty Snorlax + JackHammer rhythm and power + Sex = In serious need of brain bleach.

[Dracorion]

Maria: Murder Dominic and impersonate Snorlax. Like shooting fish in a barrel. ...Wait, what?

I might have Pierce do this just to screw with Renny and Menarker. I mean it.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Everything fixed. Sunshine and rainbows all 'round.

I might have Pierce do this just to screw with Renny and Menarker. I mean it.

Charlotte probably knows a guy who can hook Pierce up with a snorlax suit. Same goes for killing Dominic.

[Geminex]

Maria: Murder Dominic and impersonate Snorlax. Like shooting fish in a barrel. ...Wait, what?
Would this be a good time to question Renny's parentage?

[Dracorion]

He's just a late bloomer.

But sure as shootin', one day he's going to gain 600 pounds out of nowhere and turn green.

[Geminex]

But sure as shootin', one day he's going to gain 600 pounds out of nowhere and turn green.
His hugs will be even more lethal.

Oh, and:

I think, I think, I thought of a way for Pierce to get both Chizuru and Shizuka.

Look, just have Pierce come out of the closet, already. Then you can stop overcompensating for the intense aura of man-love he extrudes.

[Dracorion]

Look, just have Pierce come out of the closet, already. Then you can stop overcompensating for the intense aura of man-love he extrudes.

Never!

Also, I was bullshitting when I said that, really. I had nothin'. But then it got me thinking about how it would happen and I realized, Pierce really is a sap.

Considering what's coming to him for his sidequest, I'm gonna have to take the overcompensating up a notch because damn.

[Bard The 5th LW]

You should have Pierce flirt with all the girls he can in the RP. Just to see how it ends up. Seriously. Do it. After the battle, have him ask Shizuka on a date, Hell, or Mika. Continue this pattern with every new girl you meet, and you'll eventually find some girl who'll return it. Then it'll turn out to be like, Pierce's sister with amnesia.

If you don't then you're just all talk!

[Dracorion]

That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard.

AB will make it Pierce's amnesiac sister just to spite me.

Besides, what I say and Pierce does are two entirely different things. And really, most of my talk has been Pierce boning Chizuru and Shizuka. I think I've mentioned him doing everyone all of, like, twice.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I was hoping you'd follow through with it. You see, this way he'd eventually make it to Charlotte, and I'd have Charlotte give him a semi-positive reaction, but have it be just threatening enough for Pierce to refuse.

Really, any smart person wouldn't flirt with anyone in PATCA. Half of them are criminals, one fourth are former vigilantes. One eighth are enigmatic, and the other eighth are relatively normal*. Chances are you will run into someone uncomfortable to be around.



*making all these fractions up

[Geminex]

I think I've mentioned him doing everyone all of, like, twice.
Your humility is inspirational.

Y'know what else disappoints me? That Maria didn't come. I mean, you'd think that Rayleen would be enough to make Maria come, and, if not that, then at least the thought of Impact being in dire need of assistance. But no, all that paled in comparison to her commitment to Renny. I bet he could have made her come!

And hey, if Charlotte's gonna be the alpha female of our pack, she has to be available: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Wolf#Social_structure
Ok, not quite accurate, but good enough.

[Dracorion]

I was hoping you'd follow through with it. You see, this way he'd eventually make it to Charlotte, and I'd have Charlotte give him a semi-positive reaction, but have it be just threatening enough for Pierce to refuse.

Meh. Pierce isn't scared of Charlotte. They'd both end up going through with it to see who can scare the other one off first. And it would go on forever and ever and ever, God, they wouldn't even get out of bed to go on missions!

Y'know what else disappoints me? That Maria didn't come. I mean, you'd think that Rayleen would be enough to make Maria come, and, if not that, then at least the thought of Impact being in dire need of assistance. But no, all that paled in comparison to her commitment to Renny. I bet he could have made her come!

You phrased it like that on purpose.

And hey, if Charlotte's gonna be the alpha female of our pack, she has to be available: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Wolf#Social_structure
Ok, not quite accurate, but good enough.

Oh, she's available. Just not in any way that'd make anyone would want to come near her.

[Geminex]

You phrased it like that on purpose.
Yes. Yes I did. So hard.

Oh, she's available. Just not in any way that'd make anyone would want to come near her.
I'm not intending to get into an emotional relationship, just want to secure her loyalty.

[Menarker]

Also, I was bullshitting when I said that, really. I had nothin'. But then it got me thinking about how it would happen and I realized, Pierce really is a sap.



Hell no. Pierce is definately not a sap. Especially not the way he treats Renny on a regular basis (in the RP and on the discussion threads). He might want to grow more emotional, but he's definately not Chizuru material yet.


I come home and I see all the stuff about Renny's death or being Snorlax-disfigured or about screwing Maria, killing Dominic and all that... SCREW YOU GUYS!

>_>

The fascination about Maria is weird too, given chances are high that she is the least "womanly looking" out of all the NPCs. At least in terms of busts, "sexy curves" and all that. Realistic proportions, even if a little short. I imagine it's just to rile me up. :3

*AHEM*

Anyhow...

I realized I forgot to ask about a particular female NPC

AB: How about Dinner? What is the chance of romance with her, what does she like, who is more likely to win her heart/panties at this point, and is her super strength going to interfere in any way, like a handjob that turns the bodypart in question into paste?

[Bard The 5th LW]

I imagine it's just to rile me up. :3

I'd assume that also, but there's no knowing with Dracorion.

And Gem: I'm still expecting that Omake. I want to see Impact be socially awkward!

[Astral Harmony]

I'm surprised we stopped the innuendos right there. We can make fun of what Geminex said all night...

Impact: "Maria, I need you to come right now."
Rayleen: "Maria, Impact needs you to come. Please hurry."
Maria: "I understand. Impact, please hang on, I'm coming right away."
Renny: "Dad, stop crying."
*Impact has Maria get him a weapon*
Maria: *panting* "Geez, Impact, what is this thing? It's so big and heavy."
Impact: "Oh, that? I don't use it very much unless I'm all pent up so I neglect it most of the time. But when I get really angry, I just take aim and discharge it until it's empty and I don't care who or what I hit."
Maria: "It certainly does look neglected. When was the last time you polished it?"
Impact: "I used to polish it all the time, but it's been a while since I last did that."
Maria: "Well, I've handled things like those before. Would you mind if I polish it for you?"
Renny: "Dad, stop writing that last will and testament."
Impact: "Could you polish it for me, Maria? When I polish it, it still looks like crap, but I bet a woman with your dainty hands could polish it really good."
Maria: "Heh heh heh. Well, I don't like to brag but, before and after I met my husband, I handled things like this all the time."
Impact: "Well, I'll let you polish it after this battle, okay? Anyways, it's time to show these guys what this thing can do!"
Maria: "Whoa, be careful, Impact! You almost dislocated my jaw!"
Renny: "Dad, take that gun away from your forehead."
Maria: "Oh, that's a very large thing, there."
Impact: "Oh yeah. Now this thing, I swing it around all the time."
Shizuka: "He also likes to thrust it, believe me. You should've seen it when it was just Impact and me. He really seemed like he wanted to get it inside me until it comes out the other side."
Maria: "Wouldn't that hurt?"
Shizuka: "I've had stuff like that thrust into me before. Yes, it hurts very much."
Renny: "Dad, why are you dousing yourself with gasoline?"
Rayleen: "Maria, you should return to the other side. Just be ready if Impact needs you to come again."
Maria: "I'll be sure to come whenever he needs me to."
Renny: "Silly father, playing with a lit match when he's soaked in gasoline."

As for Dinner, she's just your average sweet, carefree girl from next door. Granted, she can destroy the moon with a laser beam, but otherwise she's perfectly normal.

[Geminex]

Dinner. MINE.
Seriously. I will corrupt her, I will tame her, whatever it takes. I want power. My significant other being a source of such will be excellent.

Edit:
And speaking of Maria...

I mean, it's not like I don't appreciate Dormond's efforts. I'm glad we could make him come, at the very least. But I guess he comes for Rayleen all the time, I'm guessing she would've liked to have someone else come for a change. And I love AB's post.

[Astral Harmony]

Menarker, there's still some sunlight, but night is fast approaching so Shaymin is in Flight Mode now. Chances are it'll come to screw you just as the bosses appear.

Post is about 40% finished.

[Dracorion]

Hell no. Pierce is definately not a sap. Especially not the way he treats Renny on a regular basis (in the RP and on the discussion threads). He might want to grow more emotional, but he's definately not Chizuru material yet.

Hell, I meant romantically. His treatment of Renny doesn't count.

I mean, the way things are going you're never going to see Pierce in an intimate situation with a girl, but I assure you he is a romantic sap.

Best omake ever.

Dinner. MINE.
Seriously. I will corrupt her, I will tame her, whatever it takes. I want power. My significant other being a source of such will be excellent.

I imagine that won't happen unless you can beat her in a fight. Or maybe if you convince her you can find her home dimension.

The first one is unlikely, even after Impact goes full demon. The second one is just a shade short of impossible, mind control or no.

[Astral Harmony]

Impact might be able to take control of Dinner. All he has to do is be careful with what Dinner hears and what she sees. If she knows her efforts are causing problems, then she's against it. But if Impact can somehow convince her that she's doing the right thing, then he's got her around his little pinky. Dinner will never be evil, but she's fucking gullible. It's probably because she's still human.

Now that the post is finished (took so long because I decided to watch Maburaho at the same time), I'm gonna go chill.

[Dracorion]

So. Did Impact get Abducted by the Harpressors or just Hook Stroked?

[Menarker]

One thing that I was curious about. That Magnezone is quad weak to Earthquake, so I figured it would be knocked out in one hit of Earthquake. Hence why I wanted sleep powder on it so it wouldn't be able to use Magnet Rise.

Also figured that Steelix would go down, but then again, that god damn behemoth does have a rather absurd defense similiar to Shuckles, so it makes sense. :3

Very nice post all the same though.

EDIT: Didn't notice that AB sysnopsis said that Steelix was knocked out. Was confused because it said it "held on for dear life". Works for me. ^^

[Dracorion]

Here's the enemy damage tally:

Raikner A: Took severe damage from Kiyomi's Mechanized Cavalry.
Raikner B: Took great damage from Kiyomi's Mechanized Cavalry.
Raikner C: Took critical damage from Shizuka's Apple Splitter.
Raikner D: Took critical damage from Shizuka's Apple Splitter.
Orbishriek A: Full health.
Orbishriek B: Full health.
Orbishriek C: Full health.
Orbishriek D: Asleep. Took small damage from Whitney's Dream Eater.
Juggernaut: Down to 50% HP from Charlotte's Super Fang.
Harpressor A: Full health.
Harpressor B: Full health.

Priority should be taking out the Raikners. Here's my suggestion.

Shizuka: Attack Raikner B.
Rachel: Have Registeel use Flash Cannon on Raikner A
Pierce: Have Kingdra use Divided Dragon Pulse on Raikner A & B. If one of them is already dead, Divide Dragon Pulse between live Raikner and Orbishriek A. If both Raikners are dead, Divide Draco Meteor between Orbishrieks A & B.
Rayleen: Have Rayquaza use Divided Dragon Pulse on Raikners C & D.
Charlotte: Have Sol-Leks use Iron Tail on Orbishriek A.
Dormond: Heal Impact.
Impact: use Stamina Boost, go apeshit on Juggernaut with Dragon Slave.
Pierce's personal: Get the Juggernaut. If it's dead already, attack Orbishriek A.
Charlotte's personal: Get Orbishriek A.
Whitney: Use Psych Up to copy Dormond's boost.
Mika's Juggernaut: Taunt Orbishriek A.
Kiyomi: Go to Renny's side (I'd send Whitney, but I'm assuming AB still wants both sides to have a pure combat Pokebrid, plus we can't let her pass up a Psych Up boost).

What this'll do:
Hopefully kill all Raikners. I'm happy with three out of four.
Kill Juggernaut.
Hopefully kill Orbishrieks A and damage B. I'll settle for Orbishriek A critically wounded.

I'm assuming that, to avoid confusion and because it happened before we reached a decision, Dormond still has the full boost he copied from Snorlax. It's just easier that way. Whitney can get only half the boost.

If Dormond doesn't have Snorlax's full boost, I'd send Whitney to the other side and keep Kiyomi, or if we do have to keep her, have her use Dream Eater on the sleeping Orbishriek.

So hey AB, does Dormond have Snorlax's six stage attack boost or just half? Also, can we send Whitney to the other side?

[Menarker]

Well, from a roleplaying sense, Harriette would want Whitney over. Best Friends and all.

[Dracorion]

Bah, I forgot about Stamina Boost.

Edited my strategy a bit.

[Menarker]

Kiyomi: Go to Renny's side (I'd send Whitney, but I'm assuming AB still wants both sides to have a pure combat Pokebrid, plus we can't let her pass up a Psych Up boost).

So hey AB, does Dormond have Snorlax's six stage attack boost or just half? Also, can we send Whitney to the other side?

The enemy Linoone in my battle used Belly Drum. She can come over and use Psych Up there and get the full boost since it's an enemy pokemon. :3

I think we've gone past the need for balance in terms of character classes. Team 2 got all the Kimonos. I might as well get all the battle pokebrids, especially since it's tactically suitable and appropriate from a roleplaying stance.

EDIT: I was looking over the movelists for Dominic's pokemon that I made, since Snorlax got knocked out. Imagine my shock when I realized that I put Psych Up on Umbreon and yet forgot all about it. ^^ (No edit either)

I was going to consider switching Shaymin to Swampert so it can use Psych Up too, but Wobbuffet and Dugstrio prevents switching. (And Wobbuffet isn't a worry since there are a lot of targets to choose from.)

... oh shit. That means that Moon's switching Lanturn to Starmie was illegal. *Embarressed*

[Dracorion]

Criminal!

Man, Lola is going to be so dissappointed when Renny gets hauled off to jail.

His parents, too. Especially Maria. And then comes along Pierce dressed up like a Snorlax.

[Geminex]

I'm tired, I'll think Drac's strategy through tomorrow and suggest some improvements.. Seems good at face value, though I think that this round, we definitely need Dormond to act, not heal. He has a lot of damage, we need to use that.
Ok, screw it, I'll suggest improvements now.

First, let's not send Kiyomi over. I want to use her ultimate signature technique, her "raging Raider". It sounds quite powerful. Certainly powerful enough to eliminate all the weakened Raikner. Also, it sounds quite explode-y, and I'm thinking that might be enough to remove the corpses as well. I think it'll be worth it. Let's send Charlotte over instead, if Bard's ok with that. And, if not, then we can send Rachel.

Secondly, screw Impact. No, seriously, for the good of the team, let him sit this round out. Dormond has huge attack (now), if he paradigm shifts, he can utterly screw one of the Orbishriek, weaken it, maybe kill it altogether. I've already been meaning to propose something, might as well mention it now. Hey, AB, can Slayers get a sort of "meditation" ability? Like, an ability that lets them sit out a turn, and, in turn, remove stuff like confusion, negative stats buffs (because screw you, I've only got one adrenaline boost, the positive ones stay), or, in this case, the inability to use melee weapons? Because that'd make him a bit less vulnerable, while not being OP. If this is possible, I'd totally have him use it now.

I say we have Rayquaza and Pierce (himself, not his pokemon) remain on standby, in case not all Raikner die. The rest (Whitney, Kingdra (though, I'd prefer Nagrai), Dormond and Shizuka (normally attacking) and Rachel) hit the Orbishriek. I think we can kill at least two, three if Rayquaza can lend a Dragon pulse. And if we have Raging Raider go second-to-last, we can conceivably justify the absence of corpses on the battlefield, so the remaining Harpressor (and inevitable wave of Atunhand) don't have as much ammo to use against us.

If I've said anything really, really stupid, blame it on my sleeplessness. I'll be more coherent tomorrow, though even half-asleep I've come up with something better than Drac's lame-ass plan.

[Dracorion]

You do realize your plan revolves around Charlotte choosing not to kill some never before seen Ruin pokemon to play with some lame-ass Pokebrids, right?

Yeah, I thought so.

Still, maybe AB can let us send Whitney over. I'll edit the new plan into this post.

Also, I'm trying not to rely on Kiyomi's signature moves too much because the one she's used proved to be quite random. It could hit the Raikners. Or it could hit the Harpressors and the Juggernaut.

[Geminex]

Eh. We'll have Charlotte revive Spitz, for even more Super Fang. So yeah, Rachel, Whitney, whichever.

Anyway, g'night. Try not to say anything too stupid while I'm gone. If you get the urge, just make fun of Renny's mom instead.

[Dracorion]

I'm against sending Rachel over, because then we're just left with Dormond for support.

By the way, is a support NPC really necessary to heal Impact? Can't he just pull out a Full Restore and dump it on himself? He can carry his own items, after all.

Or, God help me for suggesting this, we can just move Impact. I realize he's in no condition to move, but I figure we can just get someone to carry him a short distance away and free up his space. Because screw Impact.

Huh, you know, reading Kiyomi's signature techniques, I see no mention of Raging Raider being random. So AB, does Raging Raider his random targets for random damage, or is it fixed? And if it is fixed, how many targets does it hit? I'm guessing it hits three, because both Mechanized Cavalry and Apple Splitter hit three targets too.

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Impact: Retreat from the battle.
Shizuka: Attack Orbishriek A.
Rachel: Have Registeel use Flash Cannon on Orbishriek A.
Charlotte: Revive Spitz, have it use Super Fang on Orbishriek B.
Rayleen: Have Rayquaza use Dragon Pulse on Orbishriek B.
Dormond: Paradigm Shift, Iron Head on Orbishriek C.
Whitney: Use Psych Up to copy Dormond's boost.
Mika's Juggernaut: Taunt Juggernaut.
Kiyomi: Raging Raider (hopefully to target all Raikners).
Pierce: Dragon Pulse living Raikner. If all Raikners are dead, Draco Meteor Orbishriek A. If that's also dead, attack Juggernaut.
Pierce's personal: Attack live Raikner. If dead, attack Orbishriek C. If that's also dead, attack Juggernaut.
Charlotte's personal: Attack live Raikner. If dead, get Orbishriek C. If that's also dead, attack Juggernaut.

What this'll do:
Kill all Raikners.
Hopefully kill three Orbishrieks. More realistically, kill two and A or C is critically damaged.

To elaborate: I think Kiyomi's Raging Raider hits three targets. If the surviving Raikner is C or D, Pierce and Charlotte will kill it. If it's A or B, Kingdra will Dragon Pulse at it.

Also, Mika's Juggernaut shouldn't have been damage at all by the enemy Juggernaut's Slam Fist, since Ruin pokemon are immune to Fighting damage.

[Menarker]

Drac, didn't you say that you were planning on sending Whitney over to my side? Don't see it in your revised plan. She can end up Psyching Up a full boost from a foe there. (Or I can just use her high Special Attack and knock out some other pokemons.)

[Dracorion]

I want AB to confirm whether or not we can send Whitney over there first.

Say, can Dormond Pokeshift and Paradigm Shift and attack on the same turn?

Not that it matters right now. Dormond using Iron Head in Mawile form does more damage than Zangoose. Still, it'd be nice to know.

[Menarker]

Just posting my current course of action that I've planned up so I don't forget when I leave for work.

Current foes:

At first I was thinking that Magnezone should have been knocked out by Earthquake due to its quad weakness, but then I noticed that Bastidon's attack and special attack is shitty. Still hurt it like hell though

- Magnezone (Electric/Steel) [Skarmory Pokebrid Pokemon 1 of 6]
Moves: Zap Cannon / Gyro Ball / Magnet Rise / Thunder Wave
Ability: Magnet Pull
- Swalot (Poison) [Arbok Pokebrid Pokemon 2 of 6]
Moves: Gunk Shot / Body Slam / Toxic / Rest
Ability: Liquid Ooze
- Sharpedo (Water/Dark) [Sableye Pokebrid Pokemon 1 of 6]
Moves: Night Slash / Skull Bash / Brine / Rain Dance
Ability: Rough Skin
- Banette (Ghost) [Sableye Pokebrid Pokemon 2 of 6]
Moves: Shadow Ball / Will-O-Wisp / Dark Pulse / Curse
Ability: Insomnia
- Wobbuffet (Psychic) [Claydol Pokebrid Pokemon 1 of 6]
Moves: Counter / Mirror Coat / Safeguard / Destiny Bond
Ability: Shadow Tag
- Xatu (Psychic/Flying) [Claydol Pokebrid Pokemon 2 of 6]
Moves: Psychic / Ominous Wind / Steel Wing / Aerial Ace
Ability: Early Bird
- Bastiodon (Rock/Steel) [Skarmory Pokebrid Pokemon 3 of 6]
Moves: Take Down / Iron Head / Ancient Power / Earthquake
Ability: Sturdy
- Linoone (Normal) [Dunsparce Pokebrid Pokemon 3 of 6]
Moves: Slash / Belly Drum / Rest / Giga Impact
Ability: Limber
- Ursaring (Normal) [Dunsparce Pokebrid Pokemon 4 of 6]
Moves: Hammer Arm / Thrash / Rest / Giga Impact
Ability: Guts
- Torterra (Grass / Ground) [Donphan Pokebrid Pokemon 4 of 6]
Moves: Leaf Storm / Giga Drain / Crunch / Earthquake
Ability: Overgrow
- Dugtrio (Ground) [Donphan Pokebrid Pokemon 5 of 6]
Moves: Fissure / Earthquake / Earth Power / Stone Edge
Ability: Arena Trap
- Toxicroak (Poison/Fighting) [Arbok Pokebrid Pokemon 3 of 6]
Moves: Sludge Bomb / Toxic / Focus Blast / Rainy Day
Ability: Dry Skin

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Plan of Action

Toxicroak: Use Psychic for quad damage (Whitney)
Torterra: Use Blizzard for Quad damage (Shannon's Abomasnow)
Dugstrio: Also targetted by Shannon's Blizzard for STAB super effective damage and hit by Water attack for STAB super effective damage by Moon.
Linoone: Use Fighting bullet (Harriette) for high damage (Half stamina due to Belly Drum)
Sharpedo: Another Electric Attack for Super Effective Damage (Badly wounded) (Evangaleen)
Wobbuffet: Toxic (Dominic's Electrode)
Ursauring: Sleep Powder (Matt). Triggers its Guts ability, but it cannot attack when asleep and when it wakes up, it loses Guts.
Swalot: Shaymin uses Air Slash for STAB damage and 70% Flinch chance (Already heavily damaged too)
Magnezone: Lola uses Fighting attack Low Kick (100 power when used on Magnezone due to its weight. Look it up on Bulbapedia) Super effective and it's already heavily damaged due to quad damage earthquake.

Maria: Heal Standby and watching our backs

Uneffected: Banette, Xatu, Bastidon


End antipicated result: Toxicroak, Tortella, Dugstrio, Linnone, Sharpedo, Magnezone and perhaps Swalot all knocked out.
Ursauring asleep. Wobbuffet badly poisoned and it can't attack directly anyhow. If Swalot isn't knocked out, 70% chance of it being flinched and thus unable to attack or use Rest to recover.
Banette, Xatu and Bastidon all untouched.

[Astral Harmony]

Impact only took damage, he's not abducted, and I have a strange feeling that he's a little disappointed about that.

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Magnezone is still alive, but only a sliver away from death.

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Dormond still has his full strength and you can said Whitney over. You're the leader, y'know. Just remember that if the person's a trainer (like Rayleen), their Pokemon goes with 'em.

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That was my bad on the Shadow Tag shit as well. Definitely no more big battles in the future. It's difficult to keep up with all the abilities and whatnot. Hell, last night I was confused as shit because I couldn't for the life of me figure out if Steelix was Mr. Skarmory's Pokemon or Mr. Donphan's. We'll uhhh...just ignore that illegal move. And if anyone brings it up, you'll get a hug from Dinner. Believe me, you're not going to want a hug from Dinner. Unless you're fat and really want the weight squeezed out of you.

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Meditation, Geminex? Seriously? I'd never credit Impact with the mental ability to reach a higher state of consciousness. But if you really must have it, then I suppose I can allow it, effective immediately. Go crazy, wanker.

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Impact shouldn't need a support NPC to heal him. As he is his own character, he's allowed to use an item and attack on the same turn if he so chooses. He just can't sacrifice his attack for the ability to use two items like the support Pokebrids can.

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Kiyomi's Raging Raider Signature Technique hits all enemies...however, against an enemy force so large and widespread, it won't hit all targets in this case. Here's the basic enemy formation on the Ruin Pokemon side:

From your left to your right, you've got Orbishriek A, Raikner A, Orbishriek B, Juggernaut, Raikner B, Raikner C, Orbishriek C, Raikner D, and Orbishriek D (this labeling is likely different from what's in the RP). And then there are two Harpressors in the air. Kiyomi's Raging Raider, like Shizuka's Apple Splicer, will hit the target Impact designates and the targets on both sides of it.

Here's putting it into practice. If Impact has Kiyomi target Orbishriek C, then Raikners C & D will also eat damage. As for the Harpressors, they're flying too far apart for Raging Raider to hit them both, so the technique is wasted if you're just trying to ground the birds.

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The Juggernaut is not a Ruin Pokemon. It's difficult to say what it is exactly, but fighting type damage will hurt it. It's just one of those little sacrifices an Atunhand makes when it merges with a corpse.

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Yes, Dormond and any Pokebrid for that matter can Pokeshift, Paradigm Shift, and still attack all in one turn. Once in a Paradigm Shift state, however, he cannot Pokeshift. And if he or she leaves that state without using their Synchronization Technique, they can't correct that. Then all they can do is Pokeshift.

Paradigm Shifts and Synchronization Techniques are one use only in one form only per each battle.

[Geminex]

I'm against sending Rachel over, because then we're just left with Dormond for support.

By the way, is a support NPC really necessary to heal Impact? Can't he just pull out a Full Restore and dump it on himself? He can carry his own items, after all.

Or, God help me for suggesting this, we can just move Impact. I realize he's in no condition to move, but I figure we can just get someone to carry him a short distance away and free up his space. Because screw Impact.

Huh, you know, reading Kiyomi's signature techniques, I see no mention of Raging Raider being random. So AB, does Raging Raider his random targets for random damage, or is it fixed? And if it is fixed, how many targets does it hit? I'm guessing it hits three, because both Mechanized Cavalry and Apple Splitter hit three targets too.

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Impact: Retreat from the battle.
Shizuka: Attack Orbishriek A.
Rachel: Have Registeel use Flash Cannon on Orbishriek A.
Charlotte: Revive Spitz, have it use Super Fang on Orbishriek B.
Rayleen: Have Rayquaza use Dragon Pulse on Orbishriek B.
Dormond: Paradigm Shift, Iron Head on Orbishriek C.
Whitney: Use Psych Up to copy Dormond's boost.
Mika's Juggernaut: Taunt Juggernaut.
Kiyomi: Raging Raider (hopefully to target all Raikners).
Pierce: Dragon Pulse living Raikner. If all Raikners are dead, Draco Meteor Orbishriek A. If that's also dead, attack Juggernaut.
Pierce's personal: Attack live Raikner. If dead, attack Orbishriek C. If that's also dead, attack Juggernaut.
Charlotte's personal: Attack live Raikner. If dead, get Orbishriek C. If that's also dead, attack Juggernaut.

What this'll do:
Kill all Raikners.
Hopefully kill three Orbishrieks. More realistically, kill two and A or C is critically damaged.

To elaborate: I think Kiyomi's Raging Raider hits three targets. If the surviving Raikner is C or D, Pierce and Charlotte will kill it. If it's A or B, Kingdra will Dragon Pulse at it.

Also, Mika's Juggernaut shouldn't have been damage at all by the enemy Juggernaut's Slam Fist, since Ruin pokemon are immune to Fighting damage.

Ok... Thanks for the clarification, AB. One more question, when the Raider explodes, does that destroy all corpses on the battlefield? Cause I think it should destroy all corpses on the battlefield.

I think our best choice is to have the Raider his Orbishriek C. That should severely damage it, and kill the two injured Raikner. Then we can get Charlotte's Personal (maybe Pierce can chip in as well) to kill Orbishriek C, and Rayquaza+Kingdra to hit the two damaged Raikner. Impact heals and meditates (screw you, he can totally reach a higher state of consciousness! It's just a very, very hateful and militarized higher state of consciousness. Still counts.), Dormond paradigm shifts, attacks Orbishriek B. Whitney leaves our side. (Not, as Drac would prefer it, Impact). Rachel has Registeel hit Orbishriek B as well. Charlotte doesn't actually need to revive Spitz, it might be good for more variety if she just uses Buck instead. He can hit Orbishriek A.

[Dracorion]

Dormond still has his full strength and you can said Whitney over. You're the leader, y'know. Just remember that if the person's a trainer (like Rayleen), their Pokemon goes with 'em.

Ah, damnit. I was hoping to have an excuse to pull Impact back.

Meditation, Geminex? Seriously? I'd never credit Impact with the mental ability to reach a higher state of consciousness. But if you really must have it, then I suppose I can allow it, effective immediately. Go crazy, wanker.

He can already use an item and attack in the same turn. Does he really need this? He can carry six items after all. Chances are he won't get stat decreased or a status ailment inflicted on him six times during a mission. And if he does, all he has to do is wait a turn or two for a support NPC to heal him.

Impact shouldn't need a support NPC to heal him. As he is his own character, he's allowed to use an item and attack on the same turn if he so chooses. He just can't sacrifice his attack for the ability to use two items like the support Pokebrids can.

Ah, damnit. I was hoping to have another reason to pull Impact back, since we can't spare Dormond or Rachel to heal him this turn.

Kiyomi's Raging Raider Signature Technique hits all enemies...however, against an enemy force so large and widespread, it won't hit all targets in this case. Here's the basic enemy formation on the Ruin Pokemon side:

From your left to your right, you've got Orbishriek A, Raikner A, Orbishriek B, Juggernaut, Raikner B, Raikner C, Orbishriek C, Raikner D, and Orbishriek D (this labeling is likely different from what's in the RP). And then there are two Harpressors in the air. Kiyomi's Raging Raider, like Shizuka's Apple Splicer, will hit the target Impact designates and the targets on both sides of it.

Here's putting it into practice. If Impact has Kiyomi target Orbishriek C, then Raikners C & D will also eat damage. As for the Harpressors, they're flying too far apart for Raging Raider to hit them both, so the technique is wasted if you're just trying to ground the birds.

Well, that sucks. Let's nuke some bitches then.

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Whitney: Move to the other side.
Charlotte: Call Buck, Dragon Pulse Orbishriek A.
Shizuka: Attack Orbishriek A.
Rachel: Have Registeel use Flash Cannon on Orbishriek C.
Rayleen: Have Rayquaza Divide Dragon Pulse between Raikners A & B.
Dormond: Paradigm Shift, Iron Head on Orbishriek B.
Mika's Juggernaut: Taunt Juggernaut.
Pierce: Kingdra to Divide Draco Meteor between Raikners A & B.
Pierce's personal: Attack Orbishriek B.
Charlotte's personal: Attack Orbishriek B. If that's dead, attack Orbishriek A. If that's dead, attack Juggernaut.
Kiyomi: Raging Raider centered on Orbishriek C.

What this'll do:
Kill all Raikners.
Kill three Orbishrieks.
Juggernaut damaged.

[Geminex]

What a delightful reiteration of my plan. Well, ok, you added Shizuka, I had forgotten that we had her. I also like how you split Kingdra's and Rayquaza's attacks. Very nice. Anyway, what I suggest is this:

1: Impact starts giving orders, but collapses from pain.
2: Decides to heal and meditate
3: Tells Pierce to take over (for now).

He'll give some orders, mostly the general strategy, before it'll be up to Pierce to micro-manage everyone.

[Dracorion]

Well, at some point in the future Pierce is going to have to give the whole set of orders to make us even, but sure.

And I still think Meditation is bullshit, but it means Pierce can give orders so I'll shut up about it for now.

What a delightful reiteration of my plan. Well, ok, you added Shizuka, I had forgotten that we had her. I also like how you split Kingdra's and Rayquaza's attacks. Very nice.

For what it's worth, I had already started on it before I saw your post. And even aside from Shizuka, Kingdra and Rayquaza it's still slightly different from your plan. Plus I'm the one who first suggested Dormond Paradigm Shift.

[Geminex]

Fair enough, you re-deploy Rachel as well. So yeah, ok, well done with the originality 'n shit. That's Pierce gets to take credit for that bit. Anyway, I'll make my post in an hour or so, gotta do some stuff now. I'll be back.

[Dracorion]

Don't forget I switched Pierce's and Charlotte's targets from C to B.

[Geminex]

Ok, ok, you came up with it all by yourself. You're such a big boy, we're all very proud of you. Posting now.

[Dracorion]

Thanks daddy!

[Geminex]

No problem, son! Hope you liked my post. Now, go and ask Mommy to tell you about the Birds and the Bees.

[Dracorion]

New plan: Everyone hits the duck. That bitch will murder us all if we let it.

I swear to God, I'm going to do this. I mean it.

EDIT: Okay, those bits with Nagarai and the duck? That's just me rubbing it in.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[Geminex]

Very nice. I probably deserved that. What I'm planning is that, next turn, Impact will wake up fairly late, so he'll be able to participate, but not to command. So Pierce'll have that turn all to himself (Immortalized in the picture book: PIERCE'S BIG MOMENT: AN INSPRIATIONAL STORY, FOR ASPIRING TRAINERS). And then both Pierce and Drac will shut up about getting to give orders and leave that to the professionals.

[Dracorion]

And maybe AB will start introducing only male characters!

[Geminex]

Witty. Very witty. One fallacy, though.

AB's massive libido would have to dwindle for him to resist introducing more large-breasted female characters.

For you to shut up about leadership, all I have to do is
a) stop doing all the thinking and watch you screw everything up
b) also remind you that, unless Pierce has a better idea (which he won't), he goes along with what Impact suggests
c) outline the consequences of not backing down. See, mind control is valuable. I wouldn't waste it on allies that're nice and (at face value) obedient. I would, however, see its use as an investment if there were any teammates with... rebellious tendencies, that I could tame.

[Dracorion]

a) stop doing all the thinking and watch you screw everything up

Why aren't you doing this?

b) also remind you that, unless Pierce has a better idea (which he won't), he goes along with what Impact suggests

Hey, you don't know for sure.

c) outline the consequences of not backing down. See, mind control is valuable. I wouldn't waste it on allies that're nice and (at face value) obedient. I would, however, see its use as an investment if there were any teammates with... rebellious tendencies, that I could tame.

Meh. It was probably going to come down to that anyway.

If it helps, I'm coming down on leadership now because rather soon Pierce is going to have bigger worries on his mind. Then it'll just be Renny and Impact competing. Sure, he might try to get back in the race at some point, but by then it'll probably be too late.

[Geminex]

...

Ok, the way I see it, we can keep slanging back and forth, or we can work out a deal now. The slanging's fun, but I don't have much time, so how about this?

For the rest of this, and the next mission, Pierce and Impact will share leadership (if they're on the same side, that is). Each gets an equal share, for every round one spends giving orders, the other will as well.

Provided that they're on the same side, I'll keep using my magnificent brain to think up fun plans, no matter whose turn it is to give orders. Pierce can effectively take credit for my plans, though some input from you would be useful too, so they won't be only mine.

I'll keep doing this during your sidequest, when Pierce leads alone. Again, my plans, Pierce's credit. Additionally, I can't promise that I'll agree with every decision Pierce makes, but I'll be a bit more obedient than I've been this sidequest.

In return, Pierce will give up his leadership aspirations for the rest of the RP (not, you understand, due to reasons of competence; it'll be understood that he's still good at leading), and will support Impact even more than he currently is (which isn't a lot at all).

[Dracorion]

I decided to take this particular argument to PMs, because I think it best if Menarker doesn't know how Geminex and I are going to plan Renny's demise (because that's the only way Impact will be getting Pierce's full and unconditional support).

[Geminex]

No, Drac! Killing or otherwise eliminating Renny would be highly, highly immoral! How could you even dream of doing such a thing? I refuse to be party to such an evil, albeit highly profitable enterprise!

[Menarker]

... and you guys wonder why I try to get good upgrades in case I get ganged up like a red-headed stepchild. Talks about my death is freaking depressing. T.T

Anyhow, back from work, so making my post since Whitney's transferal has been finalized and all.

[Geminex]

What do you work as?

And no, we don't wonder why you get upgrades, we try to stop you from getting good upgrades, so we can gang up on you like etc. etc...

I've started writing Impact's socially awkward omake, but I'll wait until AB's next duty day to post it.

[Menarker]

Oh, I work at a Costco, a supermarket of sort. All around purpose packer and front end assistant. Been there four years, which is extremely damn good considering that since I'm severely hard of hearing, most places won't consider hiring me and usually not for very long. I work hard though, since I don't want them to think otherwise for a second. It's kinda nerve-wracking to be a work-aholic just because the concern that if they don't like my work, they could just hire someone else who has a standard level of hearing. (It also helps that despite my skinny build, my muscles are VERY functionally strong. I can lift a kayak by myself.)

[Geminex]

Curses. Drac's gone. AB, when you read this, can you assume that either Drac or myself gave everyone the order to heal if they could, before acting? I'm hoping that the kimonos have more crystallized demon god's blood to keep their strength up, cause I don't want to lose Shizuka.

Edit: I've found something that's very, very close to Impact's theme song. If only he was less like "MY POKEMON SKILLS ARE SUPERIOR TO YOURS" and more "I HAVE POWER OVER THIS SOCIETY, THIS WORLD! YOU CANNOT STAND AGAINST ME!". But still, very good.
http://www.youtube.com/user/EmpyreanAria#p/u/18/1XZE8_bkjMY

[Menarker]

Ha, I never noticed that Dante posted. ^^;

Just to answer his in-RP question, AB stated that cooldowns for moves like Hyper Beam and thus Giga Impact have been removed. A benefit when we're using it, and a punishment when it's the foe using it. ^^;

Although that Sharpedo did had to charge up its Skull Bash, although it gained defence out of it.

AB: You mentioned before that cooldown and charge-up moves like Solarbeam and Giga Impact don't have those things anymore, right? Do they apply to both friends and foe? Or did I make a mistake of some sort and they still have those cooldown / charge up periods?

[Dracorion]

Pff. Real men don't heal until they're dead!

In fact, Impact is a pussy for healing from a silly leg wound.

Anyway, edited it into my post.

[Menarker]

Later on, I'm going to scour all the discussion threads and perhaps the actual RP threads and look for updates or RP related GM approved changes and list them or something.

But not now. Got to leave for work in about 20 minutes.

[DanteFalcon]

If memory serves they were removed for Pokebrids in their paradigm shift. Or I'd be breaking out hyper beam and solarbeam waaaaaaaaaaay more frequently.

[Dracorion]

Note to self: point out targets to Charlotte.

[Astral Harmony]

Sure, I can assume that the order to heal was given.

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Pokebrids, when Paradigm Shifted, are exempt from the negative aspects of various moves and maximize the benefits. For example, they don't need to charge one turn to use Solar Beam, they don't need to cooldown on the turn after Hyper Beam, they don't take recoil damage, they can designate targets on moves that normally hit at random, they'll always deal the maximum number of hits on moves that can hit a random number of times, Magnitude will always deliver maximum power, I could go on and on.

Anyways, I'm gonna get off my lazy ass and post now.

EDIT: Whew. Done. Anyways, there's still two battles for each side. The bosses are just playing dirty right now.

[Dracorion]

Okay, first things first.

Does Shizuka's Applesauce work on Ruin Generals? I realize that doesn't help us right now, but y'know, we're probably going to need it soon.

And I don't suppose you can tell us how much damage the Absorbers can take?

[Geminex]

Wait, how did Rayquaza die? Didn't Rayleen heal him? Then again, no dragon-type moves're possible. Ok, what to do? With dragon, steel and dark out of the question, all we have is psychic and ghost. I wish I hadn't sent Whitney away.

And besides, I thought we'd have two, separate battles, not just one. I wouldn't have been so happy to use our signature techniques if that had not been the case. But very well. We can still win this. Maybe.

And could we get some more info on the "Hot Wheels" sequence? What does it do exactly? Does it just hit two enemies, or does it actually hit two enemies and the enemies of either side of both of them?

[Dracorion]

Okay, I don't know if Geminex's posted a strategy yet, because I'm not going to check, because I want to try.

So here goes:
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Charlotte: Revive Spitz, Super Fang Mika's Juggernaut.
Shizuka: Attack Harpressor A.
Rachel: Revive Metagross, Zen Headbutt Harpressor A.
Rayleen: Deploy Salamence, Zen Headbutt Harpressor B.
Dormond: Signature Technique Snap Trap on what was previously Mika's Juggernaut.
Impact: Pull out Psychic rifle, attack Harpressor B.
Pierce: Revive Metagross, Zen headbutt Orbishriek B.
Pierce's personal: Attack Orbishriek B. If it's dead, attack Mika's Juggernaut.
Charlotte's personal: Attack Harpressors A & B. If they're dead, attack Mika's Juggernaut.
Kiyomi & Mika: Prep Hotwheel.

Another alternative for Dormond is to have him pull out of Paradigm Shift, turn to Zangoose and let Shadow Claw rip, but then we'd miss out on a perfectly good Signature Technique.

I want to take out at least two Harpressors this turn. Because with that many on the air we're just begging for them to swoop down, grab a bunch of us and let their friends rape the rest.

Now, I'm not sure if physical attacks like Zen Headbutt can hit flying enemies. If they can, cool. I'm assuming Shizuka can jump fifty feet into the air and slash some bitches if she has to.

Alternately, instead of Pierce's Metagross attacking Orbishriek B, he could pull out Nagarai and have her Draco Meteor up the Absorber's ass. Though I'd prefer to use Kingdra for that, since Nagarai only gets one free use of Draco Meteor and I'd rather save that for the Ruin General.

[Geminex]

Ok, I don't have time to come up with anything at the moment, but I just want to quote a few things here:

Steel Ruin General Lexhur
Some compartment on the top of Lexhur opened up and four large objects that resembled metal spheres shot out.

Rachel McConnelly (Legion Mage [Pokebrid/Trainer])
Pokebrid Forms and Synchronization Techniques
- Pikachu (Rachel) [Thunder Swarm] ~ Creates a thunderstorm that attracts dozens of Pikachus. Deals powerful electric type damage and high paralysis chances to random enemies. Let the lightning crash down!
- Magnezone (Rachel) [Magnet Crush] ~ Locks down all metal Pok?mon and objects used by the enemy and renders them unable to act or otherwise unusable (Steel type Pok?mon, metal Slayer weapons and metal improvised weapons). When Rachel shouts "Drop your weapons!", you don't get a choice but to comply...unless you use wooden or stone weapons, you old-school pussies.

I really don't have time, so do with that what you will.

[Dracorion]

That's perfect!

AB, can we do that? Use Rachel's Magnet Crush to disable the satellites? Pretty please please?

More importantly, will that work when we're fighting Lexhur himself?

[Geminex]

Geminex: Accept no substitutes.

Seriously, AB, this is probably going to be one of the only times that ability will be really, really useful. Do not deny us this, or, so help me, I'll tell mommy. And I'll tell everyone what a mean person you are.

Though I've realized a few other things:
1: Rayquaza got knocked out of the sky. Shouldn't it have used a testament drive?
2: Drac, in your plan above, you're talking about people hitting Mika's juggernaut, but make no mention of the enemy Juggernaut. You're aware that that still exists?
3: Technically, Impact still has the HV rifle as a medium weapon. Will AB let us switch without anyone wasting a turn?

[Menarker]

AB: Whitney lost her Pokebrid Sync while still on her second turn. According to a past note, unused turns can be saved. Does that mean she is able to use Sync for one more turn, or did she lose it all on account of being knocked out while using it instead of turning it off voluntarily?

[Dracorion]

1: I think since we're not technically in battle with the Ruin General, legendaries don't get testament drive. Notice that none of our team's legendaries have force-deployed.
2: I'm perfectly aware it exists, I'm just concentrating on taking down one Juggernaut right now.
3: How the hell am I supposed to know what weapons you have? You never post them anywhere! Besides, maybe Impact took the time to switch between our battle with Shizuka and this battle.

Hey AB, do Absorbers work both ways? Like, can Lexhur use Steel-type moves against us?

Also, if we disable the Absorbers with Magnet Crush, would that make them easy to destroy? Like, say, one solid scythe-smash from Pierce or a shotgun blast from Charlotte could do one of 'em in?

[Bard The 5th LW]

Geminex you're a genius!

Hey AB, what is your opinion of the orange text?

[Dracorion]

Although I see your point, Gem. I think I'll have Dormond use Snap Trap on the Juggernaut that wasn't Mika's.

EDIT: Y'know, I'm not so sure Charlotte's Arcanine should've been downed so easily. Fire-types resist Ruin, after all. Unless maybe both the Raikners' hits were criticals.

[Menarker]

AB already said in the first post of this thread that the orange text was indeed helpful. Whether it is his fave or preferred color is unknown. ^^:

AB: If a pokemon is asleep, is there any reason why it would be able to evade a low accuracy attack, such as Crawdaunt's Gulliotine for example? Not that Renny would ever order such a thing... just hypothtically... ^,^

Also, I thought of some changes to the Pokemon Breeder class which I'll post at a slightly later time. Might make things more simpler.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Still waitin' for that Omake Gems.

[Astral Harmony]

@ Dracorian: Everytime I type up your name, I accidentally place a D between the R and I. Weird.

Anyways, Ye Olde Boss Monsters have Ye Olde Resistances that normal foes wouldn't...within reason. Instant Kill attacks won't instant kill, Super Fang won't split HP, yadda-yadda-yadda. However, because that would discourage you, the wonderful players, from putting moves like those on your Pokemon, the moves won't be rendered totally useless. There're still effects from using those kinds of moves, but they're pretty poor in comparison to what they usually do so it's not much of a consolation, but it is consolation.

Absorbers will actually take quite a bit of punishment before being destroyed. They have a great amount of hit points with no type weaknesses. However, when you actually get to fight the Ruin General, you'll be to target Absorbers directly.

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@ Geminex: I sort of want to control item spam. What I'm leaning towards is taking away item use from NPCs that aren't medical specialists like Rachel, Lola and Dormond. Otherwise you guys could have half the team use items to restore all the work the enemy did the previous phase and then it's just a slow progression towards certain victory. I want you guys to die, damn it! And I'm willing to even go as far as creating fake difficulty to do it!

Besides, Rayleen has five Pokemon in all and herself. At the pace these battles are going, she's probably going to end up still healthy and still with around two healthy Pokemon, no item use factored in. It kind of negates all that fear I'm trying to put into y'all.

And there will be two separate battles...sorta. There won't be any healing up, but stuff like Signature Techniques and Paradigm Shifts will be fully recharged. Kind of a second wind thing.

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@ Geminex and Dracorian: Of course you can lock down and disable those satellites. And as a special bonus, it'll prevent Lexhur from using long-range attacks. It won't stop Lexhur's melee attacks, unfortunately. Lexhur just packs far too much raw power to be stopped by a magnetic field.

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@ Menarker: Unfortunately, when a Pokebrid is knocked out of their Paradigm Shift, like from being killed or for when an Overwhelming Tide is inflicted, they can't just pop back into it. If you want to blame someone, blame those damn enemy Pokemon.

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@ Dracorian: Damnit, I typed the D in there again!

*sigh*

Someone stop me before that becomes an in-joke to piss off Bard. Anyways, Absorbers kind of turn on and off when they want to absorb, so Lexhur won't be affected by his own Absorbers.

Destroying an Absorber will only be somewhat easier once it's grounded. Like, you can hit it with Earthquake now.

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@ BardTheFifthLightWarrior: The uhhh...orange makes your eyes dance?

I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to say.

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@ Dracorian: Gawd, that fucking D key, I'm gonna stab it!

Ahem, I think you're right. I'll do a little edit and now Buck has only taken severe damage.

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@ Menarker: True, there's really no way a sleeping, paralyzed, or frozen target should be able to avoid low accuracy blows. Well, maybe against a paralyzed target, the accuracy would just be greater instead of a sure hit.

[Geminex]

@ Geminex and Dracorian: Of course you can lock down and disable those satellites. And as a special bonus, it'll prevent Lexhur from using long-range attacks. It won't stop Lexhur's melee attacks, unfortunately. Lexhur just packs far too much raw power to be stopped by a magnetic field.
Ok. And just to be completely sure, locking them down will prevent them from absorbing our attacks?

[Astral Harmony]

Yes, it will. And we're over here, now. (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37798)