Whiplash wants his Burd: Iron Man 2 Thread

[Bells]

C'mon! Iron man 2 is out, who got to see it?

Quite frankly? Not as Awe inspiring as the first one, but i really really liked. The seemed to managed to condense the Downfall and rise of Tony in a single movie very nicely. Also War machine was done very well, and the Shield Backdrop was perfect (And, really, all scenes with "Agent Romanoff" kicked ass)

All and all, a very solid blockbuster and i'm glad i got to see it on the big screen.

Plus, the extra scene in the end just made me even more excited about the Avengers movie. I was never a big Avengers fan, but in a world where Hero Movies with many characters seem to fail, this one i think it can succeed.

[Carade]

Oh Scarlett Johansson, why do you continually refuse to answer my e-mail proposals? Dying your hair red just teases me further.

[Magus]

How do you guys see movies before they come out nationwide? Do you live in cities with limited showings or what?

[Bells]

It's out in Brazil since March 30! That's when i saw it, actually. There were both sub and dub versions in the theater here. Are you sure it's not on your area yet??

[Tev]

No, it seems international release came first. It hits theaters here this weekend.

[Magus]

I'd suspect it's to cash in on the Japanese market as early as possible, since it IS a movie about a billionaire in a robot suit. Americans can wait for these things, but if the timing isn't right in Japan it can be easily clouded over by the latest live-action Gundam movie or whatever.

[Arhra]

Oh, saw it yesterday.

Suitcase suit! Yeaaaaah!

I loved how singularly ineffectual Hammer was. That guy is just lame.

[DarkDrgon]

meh. Im gonna see it, but I just finished reading all the Civil war stuff (im new to everything thats not Daredevil, so it seemed like a good place to jump into the rest of the '0verse) so im still bitter at IM being a huge dick.

[Pip Boy]

I'm holding out on it because I'm hoping to see it in IMAX with my girlfriend in a few weeks.

[bluestarultor]

meh. Im gonna see it, but I just finished reading all the Civil war stuff (im new to everything thats not Daredevil, so it seemed like a good place to jump into the rest of the '0verse) so im still bitter at IM being a huge dick.

To be fair, that's pretty much Tony Stark's character in a nutshell. Movie Stark is much more likable. He's still a dick, but he's a lovable dick.

[Bells]

In this movie he slides nicely between "prick" and "lovable prick", it's a Joy to watch.

Any conversation with Tony is like a male version of Gilmore Girls... SO FAST AND NUTTY

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Saw it on sunday with a couple of friends. It was very good, Tony Stark is as great as before, War Machine was a beast and the action scenes are all pretty great. The 1 criticism I have is that the final fight with Whiplash was over a bit too quick.

But overall it was good.

[Magus]

I think the final fight being over in like two minutes is a problem with the entire movie, which had something like five plot threads going on and three "internal struggles" for Tony. There was simply too much going on in this movie. Plus it was ridiculous at points, always in a hilarious way but any chance at realism was pretty much thrown out the window and then it's hard to consider Tony's struggles with the real amount of drama they should probably call for...

It was a fun movie and I loved watching it but if they were really going for ALL of that they should've went with a 2 and a half hour length at least instead of cutting it back to 2 hours.

EDIT: Oh, and if I have a personal pet peeve it's that they never adequately explain some characters choices, both major decisions and minor character traits. Like Whiplash--why does he blame Tony for stuff when it's fairly clear his family are the thieves and criminals? Why does he choose whips as his weapon? They don't even bother to attempt to explain his love of whips. We know why Batman dressed up like a bat and why the Joker used knives--why does Whiplash love his whips (and his burd) so much?

[The Sevenshot Kid]

The scene where Tony was drunk in the suit is probably the most horrifying thing I'll see all year. I have no clue why people in the audience were laughing at it.

Great movie overall.

[Bells]

EDIT: Oh, and if I have a personal pet peeve it's that they never adequately explain some characters choices, both major decisions and minor character traits. Like Whiplash--why does he blame Tony for stuff when it's fairly clear his family are the thieves and criminals? Why does he choose whips as his weapon? They don't even bother to attempt to explain his love of whips. We know why Batman dressed up like a bat and why the Joker used knives--why does Whiplash love his whips (and his burd) so much?

i THINK it was just a lack of resources. Considering his first suit, the main point of it was the weapons. I just assumed that he couldn't figure out a long range weapon system that would be compatible with his setup, and a short range weapon system would be useless against stark. so he went with the Middle ground (Point taken that Stark points out a ton of flaws to his setup just after seeing it).

Later on, when he actually gets his Final Setup, it might just be the "Go with what you already know it works" mentality at work.

I mean, When tony first made his suit, he added a Flamethrower to it. Which is really a VERY impractical piece of weaponry considering that he was going up against a small army of terrorists armed with Assault Rifles and Bazookas.

[Marc v4.0]

i THINK it was just a lack of resources. Considering his first suit, the main point of it was the weapons. I just assumed that he couldn't figure out a long range weapon system that would be compatible with his setup, and a short range weapon system would be useless against stark. so he went with the Middle ground (Point taken that Stark points out a ton of flaws to his setup just after seeing it).

Later on, when he actually gets his Final Setup, it might just be the "Go with what you already know it works" mentality at work.

I mean, When tony first made his suit, he added a Flamethrower to it. Which is really a VERY impractical piece of weaponry considering that he was going up against a small army of terrorists armed with Assault Rifles and Bazookas.

A 10 foot gout of flames is still not something you're going to react well to, assault rifles or no. Fire bad.

[Viridis]

Saw it yesterday. More movies need drunken powered armor fights.

[Azisien]

I wasn't completely satisfied with Iron Man 2. I'd give it an "okay" rating. If this one had been the first movie, I wouldn't look forward to a sequel, but it was still decent.

It just felt muddied. Too many plot lines going on, but none of the plot lines really felt like they had much substance to them. Mash that together with assloads of pretty graphics, and you have yourself Iron Man 2.

As far as specific nitpicking, I found Justin Hammer's actor to be...not fit for the role. I don't know what it was. I didn't really believe he was who he was. He didn't really belong. The drunk fight at Stark manor was a little confusing. Stark is ass drunk, then Rhodie starts a fight and he's suddenly in tip top fighting shape. Write that off as adrenaline? I think? Not how drunk fights usually go. Stark goes to the trouble of building a prism based energy particle accelerator whatchama-thing and, seemingly for no reason at all, doesn't calibrate it to strike his NewElementContainer? Sigh.

On the other hand, hello Black Widow!

[Magus]

The scene where Tony was drunk in the suit is probably the most horrifying thing I'll see all year. I have no clue why people in the audience were laughing at it.

Great movie overall.

I think there was supposed to be a balance between "lol Tony Stark is drunk and is going to blow up his house...again! LOLOL" versus "oh my dear god a drunk man is wearing a suit capable of melting people", but the movie was so comical up til then people probably just tilted towards the former option.

Anyway, I'd be fine with the whip being explained as a feasible means of energy transfer if you don't have the possibilities of creating a laser system, BUT that stuff needs to be explained, you can't just leave it to us viewers. We can usually explain it away quite easily but it's just lazy to not do it.

Also, how does Whiplash get his hands on so much palladium? I can't remember the first movie word for word but it seemed implied it was exceedingly rare and expensive and fragile, and yet Whiplash, poor Russian petty criminal, gets some apparently automatically. Maybe his dad had some laying around but once again these things need to be explained to the audience.

[synkr0nized]

I didn't like Tony Stark throughout the majority of this movie.
I did in the first one.

To be fair, most of the male characters in 2 were unlikeable, Rhodes aside.

[Magus]

Tony's hapless male assistant was pretty likeable. In fact he was actually sort of useful for having no super powers, especially earlier on.

[RickZarber]

You talking about Happy?

'Cause I was actually kind of surprised how much screen time Jon Favreau gave himself.

All in all I think this one suffers a bit from having too many plot-lines without enough focus on any of them. While they were cool, had any or all of the scenes setting up the Avengers movie been left out, it would have been a tighter film.