Supernatural Two Minutes to Midnight

[BitVyper]

Anyone else keeping up this season? Lots of curveballs this season, the biggest for me personally was Death being DEATH. Like, the real deal. I don't know if the other horsemen are similar or what, but I wasn't really expecting him to be like, "I'll be the one who turns out the lights and locks the door when the universe is over" level. I don't think I've ever seen Dean quite that close to pants-wetting terror, and I don't really blame him.

Also surprising have been the allusions to a universe beyond humanity and Earth. Lucifer talked about how the pagan gods "ceded this world," and now Death has been talking about the broader universe. Kinda makes it sound like the angels didn't get here until things were in full swing. Then again, in Dean's vision of the future, Lucifer did call the world God's last perfect creation, so maybe he was here all along, and it was just them who got here later.

At any rate, things are going a bit too well, which leads me to believe this deal with the rings may well be a trick to get Sam to say yes. Lucifer did say he taught Gabriel everything he knows, after all.

[Bells]

Supernatural is one of these rare shows that should be embraced. It started cool and funny, it escalated to awesome and it's now just one of the prime pieces of TV i've ever watched.

I'm a little behind this season and the way things are going i always fear the show won't last much more. But they manage to up the stakes every single season until now, always tying everything nicely together.

I do think they tend to abuse the "Time Travel" ploy, and the show gets a tad too much "Dean-centric" sometimes.

[Dracorion]

I'm going to put Death in the list of "things the Colt can't kill". Right up there with God, Lucifer, Michael and the Antichrist. And I think that's a full roster.

Nice to see Cass can still be badass without his angel mojo.

And I think the reason Dean didn't quite shit his pants is because he doesn't fully grasp just how powerful Death is. If I had to guess, I'd say causing the Great Flood took Death all of one second of concentration. But that's just my wild speculation.

I'm kinda hoping Death shows up again. I mean, did you see that badass intro he got?

[The Sevenshot Kid]

This show is the only justification, sans Gossip Girl, for the CW's existence.

[BloodyMage]

This show is the only justification, sans Gossip Girl, for the CW's existence.

I agree completely with this post.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Where can they possibly go after this season?

I'd like for them to seriously go looking for God after trapping Lucifer so they can hold him accountable for abandoning mankind. Kinda like Preacher.

[rapter200]

This show is in my honest opinion the only hope for quality TV currently, I watch other shows but none of them stack up to Supernatural. I have been watching since the second season and loving every hour. Everything gets dropped when it comes on.

The current season has been great, Death's introduction was amazing but what do you expect from the one horseman to actually be named in Revelations. That part about killing God made me thing how the hell he could do that if Lucifer (who Death admits is just a kid throwing a tantrum) has him on a leash. I don't know if Death will be able to kill God it might just be something he was lead to believe. But other than that Death had such an aura of power around him, the actor nailed it.

Can't wait for the season finale, the plot line of pretty much the entire show will come to an end. Knowing them it will be great. Bring on Carry on Wayward son.

[EVILNess]

Yeah, I wonder where they are going to go in the next season. The actors will at least stay, but I kinda worry about the fact that the show's creator isn't sure he wants to continue since he said this is his envisioned end of the show.

[BloodyMage]

Word is Eric Kripke will step down as the head producer and the show will instead be run by long time member of the Supernatural team Sera Gamble. Kripke will still be an executive producer, but pretty much as soon as his vision is complete, he'll step into the background. What that means for the series is anyone's guess though, though I'm hoping they return to the season one and two style of visiting different towns with a monster of the week. Not that I haven't loved the over arching story that has developed, but it'd be refreshing to return to the weekly urban legend hunting.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

"Remember when we used to hunt wendigos?"

"No."

"Me neither."

[BitVyper]

I don't know if Death will be able to kill God it might just be something he was lead to believe.

He didn't say he'd kill God, he said he'd reap God. Reaping's what happens on your way out the door. I'm guessing that when he's not under someone else's control, he probably operates more like Discworld or Gaiman's Deaths.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Speaking of Gaiman and Pratchett, this season feels a lot like Supernatural Presents "Good Omens."

[BitVyper]

Actually, given the chicken/egg comment, I'm guessing that God embodies life the same way Death embodies death. You could even put it as an order/chaos deal, with God having tried to create life that was eternal and unchanging with Eden, and Death taking the role of Satan (as in The Adversary, not Lucifer), tricking humans into screwing everything up. Death does represent change, after all.

[Toastburner B]

I have got to say, that Death's intro may just be my favorite minute television ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EcsBgxXDqc)

The casting on the show has been great. The guys they got to play Death and Pestilence were both great. And Crowley? Man...Crowley is just so delightfully devious, he's been a great addition to the cast in the last few episodes.

[krogothwolf]

Jesus freakin Monkey Balls

What the hell??

Sam is still alive some how Castiel is an ArchAngel? Chuck was God?!?!?

Totally disappointed in the Actual "Showdown" which shoulda been cooler but still.

Seeing Castiel explode was freakin awesome. So was Sam pounding on Dean and the importance of the Car. Though Micheal getting tossed in as well was lame.

All in all though it was a good season finale.

[BitVyper]

Kind of a let down. Don't get me wrong, it was a good ending, and everything was done right, but this episode felt weaker than any of the other season finales. The whole thing seemed rushed.

[Bells]

Can we at least agree that Gabriel's / Trickster send off was pretty much the most awesome one possible?

Damn, i don't know if it's the writing or the casting, but everything seems to click. Every single angel works so fine tuned that i couldn't imagine a single one of them being played better by another actor.

[BitVyper]

Anyone who gets sent off by starring i ntheir own personal porno is having the most awesome send-off possible.

Edit: As far as casting goes, I liked Lucifer's other vessel better than Sam.

[BloodyMage]

Chuck was God?!?!?


That's what that meant?!

It was a rather odd finale. Not quite as epic as I'd imagined, but I really did enjoy it. I agree that Mark Pellegrino was a better Lucifer though.

[BitVyper]

That's what that meant?!

Oh I'd say definitely. It seemed pretty clear that was the direction they were going right from the start of the episode.

In hindsight, it should have been obvious throughout this season.

[krogothwolf]

Yeah, it is obvious now. I'm glad they didn't toss in Jesus anywhere along the way though. I thought the best Lucifer was Future Sam to be honest, some how that brief bit was pretty damn sweet.

I was still hoping for a more kick ass show down between Micheal and Lucifer.

I'm sort of bummed out with the desire for every season finale to end on a cliffhanger. It's really starting to get annoying that everyone ends in some cliff hanger nowadays.

[BloodyMage]

The cliff hanger seemed rather tacked on as well. Seemed like it was just there to set up the sixth season.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Maybe vessels don't stay in. Or God could be trying to be nice.

[Dracorion]

Well, the streetlamp went out when Sam arrives. So maybe he's still Lucifer. Or maybe he's possessed by a demon.

Or maybe the gallons of demon blood he ingested turned him into a demon forever.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

God could have cured him of that like he did in the first episode of the season.

[Dracorion]

God can do a lot of things.

Doesn't mean he does them.

[BloodyMage]

There's also an idea that Sam is now an angel, though that seems sort of stupid.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Sam an angel? That's all kinds of screwed up. As a demon... that could be interesting to say the least.

Castiel had a great exit. I hope we'll get to see him making some headway into cleaning up heaven. As for God, I'm not sure if he is the same person as our dear prophet. There's a few plot holes to be had there.

[BloodyMage]

I think the logic (if there is any) behind Sam being an angel is that the light flickered off, which both angels and demons have been capable of doing. Some people think he's a demon, others are speculating that he's actually an angel.

[BitVyper]

I doubt he's either. Demons don't have their original bodies, and if he were going to come back as an angel I wouldn't buy Chuck putting a "the end" on the story two seconds earlier. The ambiguous look on his face suggests to me that he's either not planning to see Dean, or it's not all Sam though.

Angels pulling Dean out of hell and resurrecting Adam caused major omens in the past, so I don't think they were involved, although God himself might have done it. Might have been a gift from Death? I dunno, it's too hard to say from so little. The light going out could be all kinds of things, or something we haven't seen yet.

[krogothwolf]

Well Since Season 6 is supposed to be about Dean and Sam's relationship. My guess is an Angel dropped him off. Unless god did reward him with his noble sacrifice of his favoured sons by locking them in a Cage.

[BloodyMage]

He didn't look very much like Sam though. His facial expression was somewhat sinister. I suppose maybe being trapped in a hell with Lucifer, Michael and his half brother probably messed him up. I'd be inclined to agree that he's neither demon nor angel though.

[Dracorion]

When I said it was the demon blood, I was thinking Sam turned into a kind of half-demon thing. Remember when his eyes went black back when he killed Lillith? Sorta like that.

EDIT: Man, I just cannot get over Castiel. He's just that awesome. I mean:

"Hey, assbutt!"

And then:

"Castiel, did you just molotov my brother with holy fire?"

"Uh, no."

The guy has the balls to lie to Lucifer's face after Lucy just saw him do it!

[Bells]

I think the genius here is that even though we saw a perfect ending where all the important points were tied off perfectly, with a single shot they still make us wonder about a sixth season with a dozen questions that could move the storyline even after the freaking apocalypse.

Also on chuck I would say that he isn't "god" per se... as more probably God's Vessel. I mean, that's the theme they use, right? And it would make Chuck seem more natural in the early episodes, while if he really was god all along, he would be a tad more of a prick.

[BitVyper]

See, I could go with that except for the way he acts in the entire final episode, and the fact that he just vanishes. He's totally God, and he was the whole time.

[Dracorion]

If Chuck was God the whole time, wouldn't Dean's amulet have burned hot all the times they were with him?

I'm guessing: A) Chuck was only recently replaced by God.

or B) God can just tell the amulet to sit down and shut up.