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Astral Harmony
05-13-2010, 01:25 AM
http://ui27.gamespot.com/2522/pokemon.jpg

I'm confused as to why this hasn't happened in these discussion threads.

Moving along, now. The database seems to be taking forever (fucking Disgaea 3!) but hopefully it'll all be done within a few days.

Incidentally, the RP will now return to the agency, where the wackiest thing I've typed yet-

*Remembers Lola's Sexy Party*

Well, where one of the wackiest things I've typed yet is happening to an NPC I've taken a fondness to, Moon Travorian. Plus, it's a good excuse to introduce mo' ladies. And those won't be the only ones.

And since Dracorian really wants it, I will actually implement a dumbassed point system indicating who likes who. Because that's good GMing!

Menarker
05-13-2010, 02:28 AM
Well, for those who hated my sidestory, it's coming to an end.

That picture above is lacking. >_>
First, they missed the frickin first line "Prepare for Trouble!"
Secondly. No girls. None at all.
I am sadden. >_> (Then again, we are spoiled)

Anyhow, looking forward to seeing what comes next. ^^

Astral Harmony
05-13-2010, 03:46 AM
There. Another bomb was dropped.

And to make up for the last picture...

http://img2.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/5f2b5951092e5df63f7469d73e3b06ae1226636611_full.jp g

Satisfied?

Menarker
05-13-2010, 07:46 AM
An interesting post, although I was hoping that the night-time conversation that Pierce and Shizuka and Renny between Rayleen and Whitney was actually answered. *Renny's trying to deal with sleeping that night aside with Lola beside him along with 3 other girls aside* Honestly, felt like the totally copied 8bit D&D thing was trying to push that off the stage.

Doesn't help that I got little to no idea how we're going to proceed from this point on, unless you're just finishing the sidequest and making a new quest right after. After all, I can't think of any reason for anyone to be involved with Moon's triple marriage issue. I can't think of one for Renny, and he's the one with the most reason to have a reason since he was the 3rd spectator that Shannon and Moon didn't pick up. Evangaleen said to Lola "remember last night when you joined me in the forest? There was a fourth person." Given that Evangaleen plus Lola is only two people, they would probably be wondering who the third one was. :3:

Ah well. If I have to, I'll just make a post with Renny attempting to get Moon/Shannon a bottle of his wine. And one to Shizuka to give to the other Kimonos who couldn't make it to the party. Maybe a side trip to Jeanette to ask about Mollesk and give her one too since she couldn't make it to the party.

AB: How do you think the relationship point system will operate and will it be the same for everyone, growth wise and all that? (Hoping that Lola/Renny relationship is high up.)

And thanks for the new pic. Adds a little smile to my face.

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 08:41 AM
@Drac: Dude, I was only intending for you to laugh at the "Strongest Trainer Cries Like A Little Bitch" thing.

Well, I did. Then I remembered I was supposed to be outraged.

Everyone knows that your pokemon will pale to mine once I get the Pokemon Breeder upgrade. :3:

I'm calling bullshit on this right now. We'll duel after you get your upgrade, so I can make you my little bitch.

Remember, when your own sidequest comes, you'll have your own chance to shine in the lime-light!

I guess it's because I'm running a tight ship for my quest so there won't be much room for Pierce to have some time with the girls. Also, not everyone's sidequest is a party with particularly strong wine.

Damnit AB! Pierce didn't have a chance to get hammered!

And yeah, would've been nice if the conversations had been finished.

*Pierce kicked a puppy*
Influence gained: Charlotte
Influence lost: everyone else

Menarker
05-13-2010, 09:10 AM
Whatever you say. :3

AB: The following would be nice if you could somehow find it in your heart to edit this in your post and address them.

But yeah, Pierce spent a few posts trying to chat up Shizuka and his attempt to even say thanks to them in his own way which ended up sounding very Pierce like and actually sincere as opposed to his supposed inspirational thing. Would have been nice for Shizuka to have actually responded, whether favorable or not. (Although I can't imagine very many plausible reasons why it would be anything but favorable.)

Same with that Renny bedroom thing. At the very start of the quest, there was a huge drivel about leadership, with Harriette (who is currently taking a shower but could arrive and interject in the conversation) and Whitney both contributing their insight on the nature of truly great leaders and Renny asking Rayleen what she saw in him that was so worthwhile or valuable. As much as he is talented, he's not exactly complete and he's still trying to grow and understand his place.
Not to mention that Renny spending the night with sexy ladies in his own bed got to be rather unique and un-nerving especially when one of them is someone he got a real crush on. He's a young guy still learning about himself, not experienced like Pierce or Impact would be and the notion is unfamiliar territory to him.


Just felt like several missed oppurtunity with those endings rushed, especially when the battles were rushed too.

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 09:35 AM
For Chrissakes, will ya quit raggin' on Pierce's inspirational moment? It was totally sincere! I just botched it, Pierce didn't. I promise you, future moments like that will knock your socks off.

How is Pierce experienced? Romance-wise, I mean. Did you not see that awkward thank-you (that I'm actually worried wasn't awkward enough)?

I mean, Pierce is blessed with self-awareness so he knows exactly what his shortcomings are. But that doesn't stop him from making the same mistakes.

Screw it, as soon as Geminex posts to give Pierce his Dragon Slave, I'm posting drunk Pierce before the team takes off that day. Aria gets her nickname, and Pierce is going to be raising all kinds of hell.

Menarker
05-13-2010, 09:48 AM
Yeah, the first attempt was a botch to me, but was trying to compliment your second attempt. (Your first attempt sounded like a "cheering up the troops war speech" or an "American Patriotism" slogan, neither which honestly seemed to fit.)

Well, I meant that Pierce is experienced in actually KNOWING about the process of trying to win a girl. Renny for the "longest time" was in the mindset of friendship and is just starting to wade into the deep end... almost as if his idea of romance is based on the older Disney movies! >_> Quite a far cry from reality, especially what he started to see with Shannon and Moon. And all the stripping from Sexy Parties and all that. A late bloomer to say the least. :3

If you want, Renny could attempt to give Aria her nickname... after a few botched attempts like Iris and all that.

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 09:56 AM
No, Pierce doesn't know how to get a girl. His only tactic is being stupid and awkward until she decides to stop fooling around and jumps him.

Dominic and Maria are the worst parents ever. I mean, did they even give Renny the biology talk or the sex talk? Hell, did Renny ever even watch TV or movies? Because anything that has a romance plot will tell you that getting a girl takes more than just looking at one and suddenly being struck by warm, fuzzy feelings.

I'd like to think Renny did watch TV and movies and was simply willfully ignorant. You wanted to stay a kid at heart, Renny.

If you want, Renny could attempt to give Aria her nickname... after a few botched attempts like Iris and all that.

No, screw it. This has taken long enough. Drunk Pierce is naming Aria and that's final.

Menarker
05-13-2010, 10:20 AM
Fine, I was mistaken about Pierce.

Well, I know a few people who had been taught sex education from parents and schools and still quit at odds at how to deal with the finer points of sexuality. They might know a bit about how pregnancy occur, but actually jumping from friendship to lover is quite a step, especially if you don't hang around with people your age that much or don't get that much exposure to that sort of thing. (Renny traveled with pokemon mainly and hanged with his family.) PATCA is... unlike most organizations in terms of how many women they got.

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 12:04 PM
Fine, I was mistaken about Pierce.

Damnrite. You're always wrong about everything ever and I'm always right about everything ever.

words

So what you're saying is... Renny is a momma's boy.

Bard The 5th LW
05-13-2010, 12:45 PM
"I'm a mama's boy. I pity the fool who ain't one!"

~Mr. T

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 01:27 PM
"I'm Renny Tresserhorn and I'm a Night Elf Snorlax."

"What's your game?"

~Renny Tresserhorn

"SNORLAX GRENADE!"

~Renny Tresserhorn

Bard The 5th LW
05-13-2010, 01:31 PM
Just posted. Not sure if the PCs are supposed to be there, but I decided to have Charlotte just drop in with a couple pounds of snark and verbal abuse. She might throw a chair at someone if this doesn't clear up soon, cause she finds this boring.

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 01:33 PM
...

Oh God.

I just had the most hilarious idea involving drunken Pierce and Charlotte. And no, it's not what you think. It's something even better.

Geminex really needs to get around to posting. I gotta put this baby to words.

Menarker
05-13-2010, 01:39 PM
Renny is not attached to his parents like a parasite.

While very affectionate and caring about his parents, he has lived without them for long durations as a pokemon trainer. And his parents don't control him as he's quite able to make his own choices.

So not a mama's boy by any defination except perhaps the Mr.T defination, which is pretty much about being a person of strong character while still loving ones family.

Astral Harmony
05-13-2010, 01:40 PM
Yeah, I could edit that post, I suppose. But unfortunately not now. If you had addressed this before I went to bed last night, I could've taken care of this sooner. But now I've gotta go to work.

EDIT 1: One of the things I feel I should point out is that Renny being a hit with the ladies is mostly due to the fact that nobody thinks he's really a man yet. Hell, a lot of the girls more or less either think of him as a kid or as a little brother. He's not the playa that Menarker would like to believe he is.

Hell, I'll go down the list while I have at least a little time:

Lola considers Renny a good friend that she wants to do nice things for and be around. It's a step in the right direction, but that's it. She isn't aware of any possible attraction to the kid, and if she knew she had those feelings, she certainly wouldn't act on them, yet. It's just not appropriate.

Harliette has no romantic interests in Renny whatsoever. He's just too...too...goody-goody. Harliette's most interested in Impact, though it's only a passing interest due to lack of direct interaction.

Rayleen would sooner consider Dormond than Renny. Her professional image (or lack thereof, really) is rather important to her, so she considers herself and Renny as comrades.

Whitney needs more time with the group to develop any kind of feelings. She could actually end up with feelings for either Renny or Matthias if either of them starting working on her.

What it boils down to is that the girls tend to give Renny more attention because he's cute and nice and innocent. You can't get that from you other three dudes. Well, maybe you could, but I haven't really seen it.

Just do something for yourselves and send me some PMs about what you really want to have happen like Menarker does. Get my creative juices going and you'll be surprised with the interesting situations you could end up with.

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 01:56 PM
While very affectionate and caring about his parents, he has lived without them for long durations as a pokemon trainer. And his parents don't control him as he's quite able to make his own choices.

Yeah, I guess. To an extent.

But here's an argument I should've made a long time ago: when they wanted to join the battle, Renny should've told them to sit the fuck down and shut up. In a nicer way, obviously, but he should've told them. And they would've had to listen. They may look more like a club house, but when shit went to hell, his parents should've trusted that Renny wasn't wasting his time with PATCA and they should've let them deal with it. Y'know, the professionals. They effectively pissed all over Renny's chosen job. And sure, you may say something like "Renny wanted to keep an eye on his parents". But out of our giant dysfunctional PATCA family, Renny's supposed to be the one who's most trusting, so he should've let the others protect his family.

Nevermind that Dominic is a trainer. He was fighting against an enemy he was completely unfamiliar with. And there's such a thing as protocol, and while PATCA may be lax on it, I'm pretty sure involving civilians in their battles makes for a bigass "HELL NO". In fact, hey AB, I demand that Rayleen tear Renny a new one for letting Dominic and Maria fight when you edit your post. She's got a perfectly good reason for it!

Yyyyyeah, you may not want to bring up the subject of Dominic and Maria fighting when Pierce is nearby ingame.

Menarker
05-13-2010, 02:06 PM
Thanks for promising to edit the post, AB. When you finish work and start working on your post, it's already 1AM in the morning for me. I'll never be able to respond fast to your early morning 3-4AM posts. So I'm content with waiting until later.

I figured that Renny wasn't that much of an actual stud for somewhat the examples listed above (which makes a lot of sense. I was shocked when they would even suggest sharing the same room... but drunkeness does that I guess).

Still, Lola liking him to an extent is nice to know. ^^

Also to answer part of Drac's comment on the parent's involvement, in a situation like that, there was no telling in character how many groups of foes were there. There was actually 3 at the time. (The 3rd being the Light and Dark which merged with the pokebrid group). If they were actually seperated, there could have been hostages. While Renny didn't know that there WAS a 3rd group, he accounted for that possbility. Plus, your "Renny supposed to be trusting argument" goes both ways, in that he trusted Dominic to be able to fend for himself and Maria while they were part of the group.

Of course, it's entirely possible that Rayleen would speak to Renny about protocol or so, aside from the fact that she apolgized heavily to Maria who accepted it easily since she it was she and Dominic who interjected themselves into it. Also, Pierce might hear about it from Shizuka since she was originally supposed to watch over them. Then Renny sent her to the other side as per Geminex/Impact's request. Don't shoot my character down for the actions I take to accomdate your other characters!

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 02:27 PM
While Renny didn't know that there WAS a 3rd group, he accounted for that possbility.

Ah, bullshit.

aside from the fact that she apolgized heavily to Maria who accepted it easily since she it was she and Dominic who interjected themselves into it.

Well of course she apologized. The Watchmen are her team. Their fuck-ups (in this case Renny's fuck-ups) are her fuck-ups. Doesn't mean Renny still doesn't deserve to get a new one ripped.

Also, Pierce might hear about it from Shizuka since she was originally supposed to watch over them. Then Renny sent her to the other side as per Geminex/Impact's request. Don't shoot my character down for the actions I take to accomdate your other characters!

More bullshit. We had already moved Shizuka to our side and replaced her with the EEE. Which is more than a fair trade. Then you wanted Dominic and Maria on your side, so the whole point of having a third team went straight out the window.

Astral Harmony
05-13-2010, 02:27 PM
Hey, quick question about the post in general:

Could I get some stage directions regarding the edit? I mean, I'll read what you guys posted again, sure, but a little...y'know...elbow me in the side, "this is exactly what I want you to edit about" would really help. Otherwise I could end up with an edit that you guys would just want me to edit once more.

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 02:32 PM
Eh, I already said what I think Rayleen should say to Renny.

As for Pierce, aside from Lexhur and Mika answering his questions, obviously I want Pierce to get laid with Shizuka. Of course, you don't have to do this. Just have Shizuka do whatever you think she'd do.

I mean, I'll be dissappointed anyway, but I'll live.

EDIT because Menarker is a silly doodle: Also, Pierce is going to be downing seven or eight bottles of wine. But that's just a FYI to Menarker, and I'll take care of it in my post.

Menarker
05-13-2010, 03:11 PM
*Deleted my previous post since my computer is going wonky with double posts and is being jerky*

I said accounted for a "possibility". He didn't have any actual evidence or reason to know there was one. There could have been one mass squad or several weaker forces surrounding everywhere.

EDIT: Also, Pierce should only drink 2 or 3 bottles. Renny didn't make THAT much, and it's really strong anyhow. (Plus Renny still need three of the bottles to distribute.) If Pierce really wants wine THAT badly * he might wanna wine and dine Chizuru* have Renny offer Pierce that he'll make more wine if Pierce finds berries in his spare time plus a fee for buying bottles and supporting his future business. Renny IS making a business out of it, similar to the rare candy dream he mentioned to Lola and all that.)

EDIT: To AB for your EDIT

Pierce spent a few posts trying to chat up Shizuka and his attempt to even say thanks to them in his own way which ended up sounding very Pierce like and actually sincere as opposed to his supposed inspirational thing. Would have been nice for Shizuka to have actually responded, whether favorable or not. (Although I can't imagine very many plausible reasons why it would be anything but favorable.)

Renny bedroom conversation thing. At the very start of the quest, there was a huge drivel about leadership, with Harriette (who is currently taking a shower but could arrive and interject in the conversation) and Whitney both contributing their insight on the nature of truly great leaders and Renny asking Rayleen what she saw in him that was so worthwhile or valuable. As much as he is talented, he's not exactly complete and he's still trying to grow and understand his place.
Not to mention that Renny spending the night with sexy ladies in his own bed got to be rather unique and unnerving especially when one of them is someone he developing a real crush on. He's a young guy still learning about himself and the notion is unfamiliar territory to him. (Mind you, the most he would probably do is end up hugging Lola throughout the night.)


Renny the next morning would surely try to give Shannon and Moon a bottle of wine since they were... busy. Also to Shizuka to give to the rest of the Kimonos who couldn't come and to Rayleen to give to Jeanette who couldn't come to the party due to her work.

Pierce also expects Rayleen talking to Renny about the mission (whether he actually screwed up regarding his parents, and whether he would be punished or anything.) Dunno if you plan to do that or if Rayleen thinks that Renny was justified in his situation.

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 03:45 PM
EDIT: Also, Pierce should only drink 2 or 3 bottles. Renny didn't make THAT much, and it's really strong anyhow. (Plus Renny still need three of the bottles to distribute.) If Pierce really wants wine THAT badly * he might wanna wine and dine Chizuru* have Renny offer Pierce that he'll make more wine if Pierce finds berries in his spare time plus a fee for buying bottles and supporting his future business. Renny IS making a business out of it, similar to the rare candy dream he mentioned to Lola and all that.)

Maybe he sneaks into Dominic's stores (I mean, it's wine. He has to have stores). Not quite as much punch, but it should do nicely for a buzz.

That could lead to a scene of him apologizing to Renny. And perhaps he would make a deal with Renny for more wine.

Bard The 5th LW
05-13-2010, 03:48 PM
Wait. Are we still at the party? Or is time pulling a sort of double reach around back to the party.

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 03:48 PM
AB is going to edit the beginning of his post to accomodate our demands back at the party.

But we are all definitely at PATCA headquarters now.

Menarker
05-13-2010, 04:23 PM
Maybe he sneaks into Dominic's stores (I mean, it's wine. He has to have stores). Not quite as much punch, but it should do nicely for a buzz.

That could lead to a scene of him apologizing to Renny. And perhaps he would make a deal with Renny for more wine.

Ok, that's plausible.

BTW, Maria would be the one more upset over the loss, as opposed to Dominic. To her, they are special reminders of the past. To him, it's more or less another drink, although he would be upset for his wife's sake too.

Not posting until AB edits his post so I know what has happened. ^^

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 04:51 PM
Okay, so Pierce may need to apologize personally. I'm thinking he drives on over there the next day.

He'd probably be too ashamed to make the deal with Dominic. And it's specifically the wine that Renny made that he wants, anyway.

Not posting until Geminex stops being sick.

Bard The 5th LW
05-13-2010, 04:56 PM
KICK THAT COLD'S ASS GEMS! I'M CHEERING YOU ON BRO!

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 05:04 PM
Addendum: Not posting until Geminex stops being sick, the jerk.

Menarker
05-13-2010, 05:47 PM
Gee, I must have missed something. I thought he was busy moving for two days like he posted. I heard nothing about him being sick.

Well, I wish him good health at any rate.

Dracorion
05-13-2010, 06:02 PM
Oh right, he was moving. (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1038654&postcount=59)

Menarker
05-13-2010, 06:06 PM
http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1039255&postcount=80

This post here shows he had a set time at hand which would be odd in the case of sickness(and he said in a previous post he was moving) and thus more evidence he was moving and the post time is more recent than the one you provided. Hence why I thought his current issue was moving, not illness.

Would rather he was in good health either way.

Bard The 5th LW
05-13-2010, 06:07 PM
KICK THAT (insert obstacle here)'S ASS GEMS! I'M CHEERING YOU ON BRO!

Menarker
05-13-2010, 06:08 PM
That works. ^^

But yeah, I imagine he'll be back pretty soon.

Bard The 5th LW
05-13-2010, 09:40 PM
Curses! Our close-knit and shrunken cast requires one of our fellow party members to be present to advance the plot! Our advantages are our undoing!

And I've been thinking of PATCA as a sort of Five Man Band, but this is the only way I could see it with the pieces fitting in some logical way.

THE HERO: Pierce/Impactan anti-hero- Impact seems to be very central, but Pierce has more heroic qualities
THE LANCER: Pierce/Impact- Similiar to the above. One would be Lancer to the other definitely, just depends on who you classify as hero.
THE BIG GUY: Charlotte- due to willingness for violence and carnage
THE SMART GUY: Matthias- According to Dante. Also no where else I can put him at.
THE CHICK: Renny- Pretty obvious. Also, if he was hero then I wouldn't have anyone else to put here.

Astral Harmony
05-14-2010, 01:26 AM
Of course, there is the interesting plot point during the epilogue where, regardless of whether Pierce or Impact is the hero, both the hero and the lancer end up fighting over who shall conquer the world now that the previous villains are all dead and gather the biggest harem since Genghis Kahn.

I'll edit that all in as best as I can. Shizuka having sex with Pierce? Actually, I seriously think that could happen.

By the way, I'm making some major changes to battles in conjunction in the introduction of the Deployment Slot System:

But first, Upgrades!:

- PC Slayers can now equip two small, two medium, and two large weapons in addition to the Normal type assault rifle that is always on hand.
- All Slayers also gain Armor Affinity. What this means is that if a weapon they use deals the same type of damage as a piece of armor they have equipped protects against, they get a STAB modifier. This STAB modifier is double as opposed the 1.5 used by Trainers and Snaggers.
- All Slayers can now create a single Signature Technique. Read what I have to say about the Rage Point System to find out more.

- All Trainers can now carry a sixth Pokemon. Two Leader Pokemon, for regular Pokemon.
- PC Trainers can create customized accessories to be held by their two Leader Pokemon.
- All Trainers can now create a single Pokemon Co-Op Technique. Read what I have to say about the Rage Point System to find out more.

- All Pokebrids now have a third DNA Splice. Choose wisely.
- All Pokebrids deal double damage with a STAB modifier instead of 1.5.
- All Pokebrids can use multiple Paradigm Shifts in the same battle, provided they have enough Rage Points. Read what I have to say about the Rage Point System to find out more.
- All Pokebrids can now use Divide and Focus like a Trainer and Snagger with their own moves.
- All Pokebrids can now use moves beyond their third turn in a row, but at the penalty of a Rage Point cost that grows with subsequent turns. I'll explain about the Rage Point System below.

- All Snaggers now have four Pokemon. Two Leader Pokemon, two regular Pokemon.
- All Snaggers gain the ability to automatically Snag a Pokemon that is defeated in battle. No worrying about getting it as weak as possible. However, the Snag can still fail and it's your only chance to capture it at that time.
- All Snaggers can now have a single Pokemon Co-Op Technique. Read what I have to say about the Rage Point System.

The Rage Point System? Seriously, they need to stop putting me on boring-ass fire watches. I'm coming up all kinds of weird shit these days. I'd appreciate constructive criticism regarding this addition to the DSS system, not pointless moaning and bitching:

From the next mission on, characters (PC, NPC, Enemy) will now be using Rage Points (0-100) to "buy" uses of their current abilities and other things they get assigned in the future. Here's the rules behind it...

- Rage Points are earned by dealing and receiving damage, moreso recieving than dealing.
- A good number of abilities have been altered for use in this system.
- All characters start with 50/100 Rage Points at the start of each and every battle. If and when Gaea's Second Wind activates, it grants 50 Rage Points regardless of current number. For example, if a character is already maximized, he or she will then have 150/100.
- If a Slayer or Pokebrid is defeated and then revived, they gain 50/100 Rage Points due to the new passive ability, Vengeful Rage. Pokemon Trainers and Snaggers gain 25/100 Rage Points per Pokemon revived due to this same ability.
- Rage can also be affected by certain new items, accessories, Pokemon abilities, and even Signature Techniques.
- More Rage is earned if a ineffectual attack is used by the ally or if a supereffective attack is used by the enemy. Normally effective tactics will net you 10 Rage Points. Disadvantageous tactics will give you 20 Rage Points. Advantageous tactics will give you 5. So there's even a benefit to using moves that don't do a whole lot of anything.
- No Rage is generated for using moves that don't deal any HP damage, like Helping Hand. You've gotta hit 'em!

Here's a list of things that are being changed because of the Rage Point System:

For Slayers
- Accessory Use = 50/100 Rage Points after first use of each. Now you can reuse accessories in the same battle so long as you have the required RPs.
- Signature Technique = ???/100 Rage Points. Depends on the power of the Signature Technique you create. A move that hits a single target will cost less than a move that hits multiple targets. Basically, the effect of the attack and the number of targets it effects will determine cost.
- Sweep = 25/100 Rage Points. Sweep now deals its full effects to two adjacent targets. I'll explain about Real Time Formation Setup below.

For Trainers
- Pokemon Co-Op Technique = ???/100 Rage Points. Depends on the power of the Pokemon Co-Op Technique you create. A move that hits a single target will cost less than a move that hits multiple targets. Basically, the effect of the attack and the number of targets it effects will determine cost.
- Focus = 25/100 Rage Points. Focus doubles the damage and secondary effect chances if it is originally a one-target attack anyways. Focus can also be used to make an attack that would normally hit a random foe hit a target you designate.
- Divide = 25/100 Rage Points. Divide now deals its full effects to two adjacent targets. I'll explain about Real Time Formation Setup below.
- Testament Drive = 50/100 Rage Points. Legendary Pokemon can now use their Testament Drive whenever they are in play. They don't need to be fighting a Ruin General nor do they need to die.

For Pokebrids
- Additional Move Turns = 25/100 Rage Points Per Turn. You can use moves on consecutive turns for three turns, then it costs Rage Points to continue to do so. You must recuperate for two turns in order to reset this.
- Paradigm Shift = 70/100 Rage Points. Remember that Paradigm Shift lasts for three turns.
- Synchronization Technique = 30/100 Rage Points. If someone uses an item to get you back up in Rage Points before Paradigm Shift ends, then you can use multiple SyncTechs in the same Paradigm Shift.
- Focus and Divide = 25/100 Rage Points. Read the notes regarding these abilities from the Pokemon Trainer.
- Pokeshift = 0/100 Rage Points. Pokeshifting is still free and easy.

For Snaggers
- Aww, just go read the Trainer section again. You're both near the same damn class.

Here's some more crap you're gunna love:

New Slayer Accessories!
- Maximum Output - Like Explosion for Slayers. The Slayer injects this purple and black prototype drug directly into his neck and then goes fuckin' ballistic. Two adjacent enemy targets take huge damage, the Slayer is defeated by the crippling exhaustion after he burns himself out. The Slayer DOES NOT gain 50/100 Rage Points (in other words, no Vengeful Rage 'cause you killed yo'self) from being revived after using this! I won't have Impact kersploding himself every other fucking turn. God knows that happened enough with Pierce's Metagross.
- Immunity Boost - Prevents all negative status effects for three turns. Does not cure them if they're already there. A little late in the application process if you're already coughing up your liver.
- Berserker Source - A "Rage Bank" of sorts. Here's how it works. The accessory already comes with 100/100 Rage Points. When you "use" it, it fills your Rage to maximum and keeps the excess to itself (if you have 70/100 and use it, it gives you 30 and keeps the remaining 70 it has leftover). You can transfer Rage to it for use later. In other words, you'd be very lethal if you saved up 100/100 Rage Points in it and then had 100/100 Rage Points yourself.

Signature Sequences With Your Favorite Gal

If you've ever wished there was proof of your budding relationship with a certain character, here's a good piece of evidence. A powerful Signature Sequence you share! And you don't even have to have that character in your current DSS setup. We're going to have to discuss this part amongst ourselves, actually. I know Renny would be honored to have a Signature Sequence with Lola, but I'm not certain about the rest of you. Pierce will most likely have one with Shizuka, but since Shizuka isn't going to be with you guys for a while...there's some stuff to iron out, obviously. So, as for you other four guys, you can pick a character to create a SignSeq with based on preference and then tell me what you want to have happen in it. Just know that the overall effect of the SignSeq will determine Rage Point cost and will take Rage Points from the both of you. But if that other character isn't in the setup, no worries. It doesn't cost more to do it that way and you don't have to worry about that character not having the Rage Points.

About the Formation Setup:

Remember those little setups where I had to indicate where the Ruin Pokemon were during Renny's Sidequest? We'll start implementing that for both ally and enemy formations starting on the next mission. What does it affect? Well, it affects moves like Blizzard, Earthquake, and Explosion for one. Now, looking at the enemy formation setup, you must designate a target and an adjacent target. This is the same for abilities like Divide and Sweep.

About Two More Specialties:

You know about the four NPC Specialties I've talked about briefly before, right? Shook Trooper, Medic, Sniper, and Engineer? Well, now there's two more.

The Enforcers are single-class fighters like you are currently. They're basically experienced fighters who just aren't dual-classes like Rayleen and Rachel. Anyways, every PC can assign an Enforcer to a personal Enforcer slot. When the allied formation is complete (the main characters are in one group), these Enforcers just make sure you aren't flanked or attacked from behind, which has no effect on combat. But if you split up, Enforcers will join the fight to enforce the divided groups.

The Destroyer is the undisputed god of battle. Steel Ruin General Lexhur and Dinner the Overhuman are prime examples of this specialty. Destroyers are only rarely available since they are essentially game breakers. Expect to only have an active Destroyer when facing full-on armies and groups of extremely powerful enemies.

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I think that's more than enough to discuss for now. Actually, it's pretty much all I need to discuss as far as DSS and the Rage Point System, or RPS is concerned. All that remains is assigning NPCs to slot, giving them this or that unique ability, setting some rules in stone, and then it'd be done.

EDIT 1: D'oh, I forgot a few more tidbits!

- Pseudo-Legendary Pokemon will no longer force-deploy when fighting a Ruin General. Only Legendary. Want a logical explanation? Well you're not gettin' one. Go complain about it on your Facebooks or whatever.
- There are two items that affect Rage Points. The Bravado Rocket item restores 25/100 Rage Points. The Suppressive Haze item is an attack item that takes away 25/100 Rage Points. There are no stronger items. There may never be. You'd probably die taking a stronger drug.
- The Ability called Berserker will increase the amount of Rage Points generated by an action by 1.5. Trainers and Snaggers can change the ability of their Leader Pokemon to this should they desire. Be careful against enemy Pokemon that have this ability. Pokebrids can choose to have this ability for their third DNA splice.
- Various enemies will now carry items. Use the ability Thief to take them for yourself. Some of these are items that you couldn't have normally.

Menarker
05-14-2010, 01:33 AM
Wow, this is going to be a bit to take in. Plus this will require me to edit the Pokemon Breeder class a bit... hmmm...

Looking forward to see what your edit will be like.


Signature Sequences With Your Favorite Gal

I know Renny would be honored to have a Signature Sequence with Lola,


Damn Straight! ^____^


In regards to rage, what about pokemons with disabling move lists instead of direct attacking? Like Umbreon if she tried to use Confuse Ray and that sort of thing? Not all pokemons are built for attacking, and if they can't get any rage for using moves that don't hurt, like toxic or confuse ray, that make them even less useful again than the standard high power attackers who can usually just as easily kill a foe in 2 or even 1 hit.

Do both pokemons have to be on the field and fighting in order to use the Co-Op move? Do both pokemons require the minimal amount of rage to use the move, or can the total of the two of them add up to the move's cost? Nevermind that, the trainer has the rage, not each individual pokemon... I think.


- There are two items that affect Rage Points. The Bravado Rocket item restores 25/100 Rage Points. The Suppressive Haze item is an attack item that takes away 25/100 Rage Points. There are no stronger items. There may never be. You'd probably die taking a stronger drug.


What benefit is there to having low rage? I didn't see a drawback to having high rage, unless someone makes a move that is more powerful the more rage the opponent has or something.

Astral Harmony
05-14-2010, 02:03 AM
Toxic will generate Rage for both you each turn it's in effect. Confusion will generate Rage for you if the enemy hits itself. Besides, Rage is also generated when your Pokemon is hit.

As for Rage, the Trainer him/herself holds the Rage for his whole group, not the individual Pokemon. Pokemon Co-Op Techniques are basically a Trainer's Signature Techniques. The difference is that the Trainer does a kickass technique with his Pokemon because on his own, he's not very effective.

When I said Co-Op, I kinda intended for it to be a cooperative attack with the Trainer and his chosen Pokemon, not two Pokemon. But in the event that you want it to involve two Pokemon, you don't need to have both out. Hell, you don't need to have either out, which helps if you want to safeguard them from harm so you'll have them when you want to use it.

EDIT 1: Sandstorms and hailstorms also generate Rage at 5 points for each affected individual. Now Shannon doesn't have to keep Abomasnow under wraps for fear that everyone would be pissed off about the hailstorm.

Menarker
05-14-2010, 02:16 AM
Still wondering this question


- There are two items that affect Rage Points. The Bravado Rocket item restores 25/100 Rage Points. The Suppressive Haze item is an attack item that takes away 25/100 Rage Points. There are no stronger items. There may never be. You'd probably die taking a stronger drug.


What benefit is there to having low rage? I didn't see a drawback to having high rage, unless someone makes a move that is more powerful the more rage the opponent has or something or the less rage the user has.

Also, for PC trainers customized accessories for leader pokemons, do you mean 2 accessories, one for each leader or only one which can be given to either leader pokemon only?

And I totally got an idea for Mollesk's Testament Drive.

(SPIKED) TENTACLES OF FORCED INTRUSION! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0020.html)

Astral Harmony
05-14-2010, 02:36 AM
There no benefit to having any amount of Rage Points other than you can't use something that costs more than what you have.

Is...is there supposed to be?

Menarker
05-14-2010, 02:40 AM
Then what's the point of an item that drains the user's rage? If more is always better, than why specifically make an item available that takes it away (The Suppressive Haze item)? Or is that item meant to be used on an opponent?

Anyhow, I'm off to bed. Looking forward to seeing the edits to that post when I get up. ^^

Astral Harmony
05-14-2010, 02:51 AM
Of course it's meant to be used on an opponent. I put the word "attack" in front of it for that reason. Have you been drinking your own wine? No Whitney and Lola for you, buster!

EDIT: Never thought I'd see the day one of the Kimonos actually gives herself to someone. Congratulations, Dracorian.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 06:27 AM
Win.

Win forever.

Pierce is going to celebrate by raiding Dominic's wine cellar! If Geminex ever shows up, that is.

Bard The 5th LW
05-14-2010, 06:35 AM
So proud of you Drac.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 06:36 AM
Fuckin' booyah!

EDIT: To distract you all from your insane jealousy over Pierce being a sex god, because I'm just that nice, here are a couple of important questions:

Can pokemon use Transform to turn into Pokebrids? Ruin pokemon? Ruin Generals?

Can Pokebrids use Transform to turn into pokemon, other Pokebrids, Ruin pokemon or Ruin Generals?

Hey AB, can we change the Berserk Gene item's effect to make it work better with the Rage System? I can't see anyone using it as it is now.

I'm guessing Enforcers are the pure-trainer NPCs? Basically, the EEE? I mean, if we had pure Slayers, Pokebrids or Snaggers I'm guessing they'd be Enforcers too.

Geminex
05-14-2010, 07:34 AM
...

Hello...

...

I haven't had time to read everything yet.
Let it be known that you will come to regret everything that I have read so far.

I am serious. I am currently studying "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. I will have 6 full weeks of time. I can empty my PM inbox as often as I want to. I will speak to everyone, and I will make everyone suffer. Mark my words.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 07:36 AM
Teach you to be sick and/or move.

How much have you read so far? Because I'm pretty sure the stuff that would piss you off the most is the recent stuff.

Astral Harmony
05-14-2010, 07:48 AM
What's this about Transform? I don't remember mentioning it.

How do you want to change the Berserk Source item? I could use at least one suggestion.

Not all of the EEE are simple trainers. A lot of characters're being slammed with specialties and classes. Moon's going to be an Engineer. Bretton (Flareon trainer) is actually another Battle Master who'll be a Shock Trooper. Evangaleen will be a Sniper. Angelo (Espeon trainer) will be a Medic. That leaves Shannon, Garus and Hector (Umbreon trainer) as the only Trainer Enforcers so far.

Here's a basic rundown of who's going to be who:

Shock Troopers
Rayleen Crosswald (Battle Master)
Harliette Gibson (Battle Master)
Bretton Collings (Battle Master)
Kirie (Battle Master)
Mika Mutsumi (Battle Master)

Medics
Rachel McConnelly (Legion Mage)
Dormond Ferguson (Pokebrid)
Lola Phelps (Pokebrid)
Chizuru Suzuki (Battle Master)
Angelo Fillsnown (Pokemon Trainer)

Snipers
Evangaleen Harris (Pokemon Trainer)
Whitney Calnein (Legion Mage)
Wilhelmina Rustfield (Slayer)
Calisto Bellmond (Slayer) [not introduced yet]

Engineers
Moon Travorian (Pokemon Trainer)
Mirror Brisholm (Slayer)
Heidi Knoman (Pokebrid) [not introduced yet]

Enforcers
Shannon Mordhaus (Pokemon Trainer)
Garus Wilderschmidt (Pokemon Trainer)
Hector Gunlong (Pokemon Trainer)
Cecilia Veldyne (Slayer)
Milsha Mathers (Slayer) [not introduced yet]
Aster Lloyd (Pokebrid) [not introduced yet]
Kurika Jungo (Slayer) [not introduced yet]

Destroyers
Lexhur (Ruin General)

EDIT 1: Oh joy, Geminex is back. Time to see five paragraphs of stuff I'll never be in the mood to read.

You can always catch up, Geminex. Plenty of time to edit something cool regarding you. I'm sure we have a lot of discussions involving the DSS, the RPS, the whole shebangabang before we can think about Mission 3.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 08:01 AM
What's this about Transform? I don't remember mentioning it.

You know, Transform. The move. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Transform) That Ditto and Mew (and Enmakki) can use.

How do you want to change the Berserk Source item? I could use at least one suggestion.

Hmmm... how about increases rage point generation per action by 1.5, and it stacks with the Berserker ability? And it gives a three-stage boost to attack (yeah, pretty sure three's too much, so it should probably just be a two-stage boost) in exchange for the holder only being able to use moves that deal direct damage (as in, nothing like Sandstorm or Toxic)? And the holder can't switch out unless they faint.

Oh, joy. Moon's wives are joining up. But hey, if Moon can get more than one girl, I guess that means the PCs can get more than one girl without it being out of character! Thanks AB!

Astral Harmony
05-14-2010, 08:08 AM
Nothing in this RP is carved in stone, Dracorian.

Think about it. If Pierce could score with a Demon ninja from Hell after only having known her for maybe twelve hours, some guy could pull Moon's betrothed beauties off of him and onto someone else. Moon'll help you, too. In his opinion, Shannon's all he needs.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 08:14 AM
Well, as long as they don't get pulled onto Pierce. He has hotter options in mind.

I still have to figure out how to get Aria off him and onto someone else. Like Impact, for the giggles.

And don't ignore the Transform issue.

Menarker
05-14-2010, 08:19 AM
Of course it's meant to be used on an opponent. I put the word "attack" in front of it for that reason. Have you been drinking your own wine? No Whitney and Lola for you, buster!



Awww man... next time, I'm just going to shut up. Had just gotten off work and it was 1 AM in the morning too, then I come and see a whole new system and make one mistake. >_<

You better not be envious or even a slightest bit pissed off for any of Renny's Misadventures, Drac. Hell, I don't wanna hear about Sex Rampages after that early reward of yours. >_>

Astral Harmony
05-14-2010, 08:19 AM
One? No, Transform can't do that shit.

Two? Let's not tip-toe around the real issue, here. We both know what you'd have Ditto transform into if it was possible. Having her one night wasn't good enough for you, was it? So now you capture a Ditto and have it transform to look like Shizuka, you twisted fuck.

Or worse, Pierce gets drunk, gets five Dittos and does a ridiculous impersonation of Harem no Jutsu.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 08:25 AM
You better not be envious or even a slightest bit pissed off for any of Renny's Misadventures, Drac. Hell, I don't wanna hear about Sex Rampages after that early reward of yours. >_>

I promise you won't hear anything. What you read is another thing entirely.

One? No, Transform can't do that shit.

What, none of it? What the hell is Transform good for, then?

Two? Let's not tip-toe around the real issue, here. We both know what you'd have Ditto transform into if it was possible. Having her one night wasn't good enough for you, was it? So now you capture a Ditto and have it transform to look like Shizuka, you twisted fuck.

Or worse, Pierce gets drunk, gets five Dittos and does a ridiculous impersonation of Harem no Jutsu.

I swear, I was only asking out of curiosity for game mechanics. Pierce isn't a pokephile. I mean, Pokesapiens and Pokebrids? Maybe. But never pokemon.

Menarker
05-14-2010, 08:26 AM
I don't wanna see it happening either if you try to involve any of Renny's ladies.

Mind you, AB, I'm happier with the edit. Feels like there was a bit of closure.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 08:28 AM
Don't tempt me.

Geminex
05-14-2010, 08:37 AM
*deep breath*

Hey, rage. Very nice. Y'know, I have something similar IRL? Yeah. Only it's not rage. It's... let's call it "focus". It's just how... motivated I am to concentrate on something.

And y'know what it's at? Currently? Regarding this RP?
I'm at "Lord Vetinari" level. For those of you who don't have good taste in books, it's the mental equivalent of my power level being over 9000.

Soooooo...
Let's get to work.

Thanks for waiting with the posting; both Drac and Menarker were right, actually. I was both sick and moving. But we're finished moving now now, and I'm no longer throwing up if I eat anything but toast, so here I am!


But yeah, rage system.
I like the concept. We really screwed Lexhur over by throwing signature technique upon technique at him, this'll restore some of the all-important balance.
What I dislike is the way you get them. It's too... passive. Too defensive. I'm fine if you get more rage by taking damage, rather than dealing it... but getting less rage for using super-effective attacks? That doesn't seem... good. It's currently a quite offensive game, focused on the rock-paper-scissors on elemental damage, and that's fun. Making super-effective attacks less effective, that just eliminates the whole "super-effective" thing. It might still work, but it'd take some time to adjust, and I doubt it'd be as enjoyable.

I can come up with more tomorrow, but, for now, time is short. I like the rest of the upgrades and rule-changes, I think, I'm a bit tired now. It's taken so much effort to get this running.


As for your offer to edit stuff in for me... 'Tis fine, for now.

Impact will drink a sip of wine, will watch the party go on, observe everyone else partying for a while, consider how to best pursue his agenda (that's what I'm actually like at parties, minus the wine), get more drunk, consider how to best kill Snorlax (blow out his voice box with the gust blaster, stun him with the electric prod, slice into his stomache, stick the HV rifle into the wound, press the trigger, trust the monster's fat to silence the shots, then get out the flamethrower to finish it off), get megalomania, consider world domination, fall asleep. No interaction with anyone... Maybe give him a way to contact Mika as well. Or Lexhur. There will be more questions.


However.

If Drac gets Shizuka after just a bit of alcohol, I fucking demand that Impact get Dinner's heart, loyalty and possible virginity after 5 minutes of casual conversation. Or at the very least after several hours of spirited discussion and a single battle. Because I'm fine with everyone else getting their little girlfriends, as long as I get one that can vaporize theirs by complete accident.
PATCA: Because mysoginymysoginymysoginy.

Anyway, I'll get posting now.

Time to see five paragraphs of stuff I'll never be in the mood to read.
This wounds me. Deeply.
:(

And Drac, if you start interfering with Renny/Lola then some deals will be off.

And once Sam has been rescued, Demonic Impact might call her up, to have a chat with her about her experience. And in the course of their conversation Sam might realize, that her experience at the hands of pokebrids has scarred her more deeply than she had realized. New memories might come up, new realizations of what they had done to her. Horrible. Horrible. She, in fact, might even begin to react horribly to even the presence of pokebrids, pokemon and even trainers! Impact would try to help her, of course, and she would fine solace in him. And his genitals.

And then Pierce would have to choose between pokemon or sister, and psychologists would praise Impact for stopping Sam from suppressing the experience, and counselling her effectively.

...

Hypothetically, of course. If you were to break your promises.
So Drac?
Don't break your promises.
And Menarker?
Pleasure to work with you in this matter.

Menarker
05-14-2010, 08:37 AM
Hmmmmm... Looking up on the list of special NPC specializations, I see a few names of characters yet to appear. Looked back to Renny and Shannon's conversation to see if any of the ones that she mentioned would be appearing in the future...

Alphonsine Dionne, the french bombshell featured in many magazines. She's a really famous centerfold, and she's the flying eeveelution trainer.
Terrance Porter: poison eeveelution trainer,
Andora. She's the fighting type eeveelution trainer

None of them appear, so I guess Shannon was just dropping names. ^^;

Astral Harmony
05-14-2010, 08:39 AM
Oh god, that is just the most ridiculous enemy, ever.

Thanks, Dracorian./sarcasm Now I have to make that character./seriousness

What kind of character? Here's a hint:

Ditto Clone no Jutsu!

Anyways, I'm going to go play video games until I pass out. And then I can face Geminex's wrath with a clear, rested mind.

EDIT 1: Those three characters will join. I'm not putting down names as soon as I'm sure they'll join at some point in the story, which explains why Dinner isn't listed yet in the Destroyer section. The characters that're indicated as not having been introduced will be introduced and implemented into the DSS before Mission 3 kicks off. Alphonsine will join in Mission 4. Dunno when the other two will.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 08:46 AM
Impact will drink a sip of wine, will watch the party go on, observe everyone else partying for a while, consider how to best pursue his agenda (that's what I'm actually like at parties, minus the wine), get more drunk, consider how to best kill Snorlax (blow out his voice box with the gust blaster, stun him with the electric prod, slice into his stomache, stick the HV rifle into the wound, press the trigger, trust the monster's fat to silence the shots, then get out the flamethrower to finish it off), get megalomania, consider world domination, fall asleep. No interaction with anyone...

Hey, if you're going to launch into a big rant about not breaking deals, remember that you still owe Pierce a Dragon Slave. Pierce offered it back, Impact has to give it as a gift to him to gain his support, or however you want to say it.

However.

If Drac gets Shizuka after just a bit of alcohol, I fucking demand that Impact get Dinner's heart, loyalty and possible virginity after 5 minutes of casual conversation. Or at the very least after several hours of spirited discussion and a single battle. Because I'm fine with everyone else getting their little girlfriends, as long as I get one that can vaporize theirs by complete accident.
PATCA: Because mysoginymysoginymysoginy. [/COLOR]

I'm fairly certain Dinner is underage. It sounds appropriate, anyway. But hey, if you want to do what basically amounts to child rape, go right ahead. Also, Pierce didn't get Shizuka. They had a one-night stand. Whether it becomes something more is something we'll have to see, but AB said Shizuka won't be appearing all that often.

And Drac, if you start interfering with Renny/Lola then some deals will be off.

Oh come on. I was messing with the dude. Besides, we said I wouldn't interfere with Renny/Lola. No one said anything about Renny/Whitney. But that's just an underhanded thing to do and I would never even consider it.

And once Sam has been rescued, Demonic Impact might call her up, to have a chat with her about her experience. And in the course of their conversation Sam might realize, that her experience at the hands of pokebrids has scarred her more deeply than she had realized. New memories might come up, new realizations of what they had done to her. Horrible. Horrible. She, in fact, might even begin to react horribly to even the presence of pokebrids, pokemon and even trainers! Impact would try to help her, of course, and she would fine solace in him. And his genitals.

And then Pierce would have to choose between pokemon or sister, and psychologists would praise Impact for stopping Sam from suppressing the experience, and counselling her effectively.

... You do realize Sam is going to be a NPC that I control, right? And as per our deal you can't mind control her, either.

So Drac?
Don't break your promises.
And Menarker?
Pleasure to work with you in this matter.

Hey. I never promised not to break my promises.

Menarker
05-14-2010, 08:51 AM
That particular use of double negatives doesn't exactly inspire me with confidence. :3:

As far as anyone is concerned, in this RP, a one night stand is probably the 2nd best thing you could possibly get (First place is the sort of permanent romance that Shannon and Moon are in), especially when it's the leader of the Kimonos.

Not a problem in my case though. Wasn't seeking her out or anything. Man, soon we'll all need to come up with a list of the girls we hope or expect we might want to get. I mean the list is getting bigger!

EDIT: Dinner better not nuke Lola or my girls by accident. >_>

Ah well. :3: I imagine we'll all joking around here.

Anyhow, Gem, good to see you back. But I sure hope Impact doesn't get so drunk he puts his snorlax slaying daydream in action.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 08:53 AM
As far as anyone is concerned, in this RP, a one night stand is probably the 2nd best thing you could possibly get (First place is the sort of permanent romance that Shannon and Moon are in), especially when it's the leader of the Kimonos.

Third best thing. What Shannon and Moon have is the second best thing. The best thing you could possibly get is what Shannon and Moon have, except with several girls at the same time.

Geminex
05-14-2010, 08:55 AM
Hey, if you're going to launch into a big rant about not breaking deals, remember that you still owe Pierce a Dragon Slave. Pierce offered it back, Impact has to give it as a gift to him to gain his support, or however you want to say it.

Oh come on. He was supposed to pick it up. I can't have Impact give it to him IC. At least I can't think of a situation that allows it. He was supposed to get it in conjunction with the duel. Can't we just assume that Pierce tried to give it back after the duel and Impact was all like "keep it, I'll get my own"?


I'm fairly certain Dinner is underage. It sounds appropriate, anyway. But hey, if you want to do what basically amounts to child rape, go right ahead. Also, Pierce didn't get Shizuka. They had a one-night stand. Whether it becomes something more is something we'll have to see, but AB said Shizuka won't be appearing all that often.
As for Dinner, we shall see. I'm hoping she's older, otherwise it won't be romance.

And I think it was a bit more than a one-night stand. It'll certainly form the basis for a relationship.

And hey, go wild with Renny-Whitney. I don't care about Renny-Whitney.
But what's protecting Sam from getting brainwashed again is Renny-Lola. Don't interfere with Renny-Lola.

And I won't even credit that last comment. That's how stupid it is.

Edit:
Anyhow, Gem, good to see you back. But I sure hope Impact doesn't get so drunk he puts his snorlax slaying daydream in action.
...
That's quite a nice Snorlax you have there, friend! It would be such a... shame if it died suddenly. If you ask me, it seems quite prone to dying suddenly and ending up as a burnt, tortured corpse. Would you like to insure it? Very cheap, I guarantee!

Menarker
05-14-2010, 08:56 AM
Moon seems to disagree with that assessment (but maybe only because Shannon doesn't seem to happy with the current setup)

Otherwise, I would concur.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 09:01 AM
Oh come on. He was supposed to pick it up. I can't have Impact give it to him IC. At least I can't think of a situation that allows it. He was supposed to get it in conjunction with the duel. Can't we just assume that Pierce tried to give it back after the duel and Impact was all like "keep it, I'll get my own"?

Or, you can just say it.

But fine. We'll assume. Lazy bum.

And I think it was a bit more than a one-night stand. It'll certainly form the basis for a relationship.

Well, she did leave him a gift. Who knows? Nose knows.

And hey, go wild with Renny-Whitney. I don't care about Renny-Whitney.
But what's protecting Sam from getting brainwashed again is Renny-Lola. Don't interfere with Renny-Lola.

I still think you underestimate the fact that Sam is basically Pierce with a vagine. And also less issues. She's every bit as stubborn and resistant to mind control as he is. Not to mention she'll have Enmakki's protection. I mean, when I said before Faynoc had to pump enough dope into her to down a giant Dragonite in order to get her to join up, I fucking meant it.

And, again, as long as I control he she won't do anything I don't want her too, like ending up on Impact's genitals.

So let's stick to credible threats, hmmm?

Moon seems to disagree with that assessment (but maybe only because Shannon doesn't seem to happy with the current setup)

Otherwise, I would concur.

That's just because Moon is a monogamous idiot.

And also because he's rebelling against Daddy.

Geminex
05-14-2010, 09:15 AM
Once I've worked out exactly what mind control (which will be known as Sepulchritude) will do exactly, you'll have plenty of credible threats.

Anyway, I probably can't finish posting today. 'Tis late. Rest assured that Impact's brilliant wit will once again be avalaible to you tomorrow.

Menarker
05-14-2010, 09:25 AM
Dante, just out of curiousity, are any of the ladies by far in your mind? Before we consider divvying them up and all. :3

Bard easily gets "access" to all the NPC males except for Moon. >_> (NO SHIT)

DanteFalcon
05-14-2010, 11:23 AM
Well....it's unlikely he'll be in any real relationship before his sidequest (and possibly after depending on how things go).

However Tsubasa would probably work best with Matthias.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 12:12 PM
Hm. There's a Ruin General missing. Lexhur counted ten rogues, plus himself, Phantomere (dead), and Idolus and his three subordinates.

That's sixteen. Specifically, the Fire type Ruin General is missing. Hey AB, what's up with that?

Also, does Ricewood know she's the genetic commander? How else did she get her hands on a Raikner to turn into the Ricewood rifle, after all?

EDIT: My post is done and oh wow.

I need to get Pierce drunk more often.

Menarker
05-14-2010, 01:00 PM
>_> You might not get the chance to if Charlotte has her way...

I'll work on my post in a bit.

EDIT: Wrote most of my post, but I got to leave for work soon. Will finish it when I get home.

Astral Harmony
05-14-2010, 02:49 PM
Morning, bitches.

First, get laid with Dinner after only five minutes? She'd hafta be apocalyptically drunk. I mean doing that Peanut Butter Jelly Time dance topless on a table and singing this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mdMb6bRXt4). And she's singing it perfectly, too! And it's not even playing in the background.

As for the Fire Ruin General, I forgot to put that in there. I should've counted the total. I'll edit it in and do a recount in case something else is still missing.

No, Jeanette doesn't know she and her daughter are genetic commanders. There'll be a dialogue between Faynoc and a mysterious character that'll put Jeanette on the fast track to joining PATCA directly.

PATCA, setting the standard in absurd female-to-male combatant ratios.

Anyways, I'll edit that post for whatever Geminex wants, although it doesn't seem like he wants anything, and then I'll do another post, and then I'll work tirelessly on my database until the fucking thing is done.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 05:35 PM
Then how the hell did Jeanette get her hands on a Raikner before PATCA?

No, Jeanette doesn't know she and her daughter are genetic commanders. There'll be a dialogue between Faynoc and a mysterious character that'll put Jeanette on the fast track to joining PATCA directly.

Lemme guess: her daughter is kidnapped.

Hey AB, can NPCs have leader pokemon? Because looking at the movelists for NPC pokemon you've posted before, they don't seem to have any.

Also, what about my Berserk Gene idea?

Also also, can Pierce have two Signature Sequences? One for Shizuka and one for Chizuru?

Bard The 5th LW
05-14-2010, 05:59 PM
Gonna post soon. STRIFE will ensue.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 07:00 PM
Hey AB, can we get Signature Sequences between PCs?

Bard The 5th LW
05-14-2010, 07:05 PM
This post basically runs on the assumption that Pierce is still drunk. Correct me if I am wrong. Also, I hope there is no problem with assuming that Charlotte was capable of getting in a hit on Pierce.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 07:06 PM
The only way Pierce would dare to put his arms around Charlotte, say that to her and then kiss her on the cheek is if he was completely bombed. So yeah.

Astral Harmony
05-14-2010, 08:08 PM
Because you're not the only people fighting Ruin Pokemon. You're the main targets, but you're not the only ones.

I could give the PCs some Leader Pokemans.

As for your suggestions regarding Berserker Source, you've more or less lost me. That's kinda confusing to read. I think I've got it, but I don't think I can approve it.

Yes, you can have SignSeqs for two NPCs. But set one for now (Chizuru since she's going to be there) and one for later (because you shouldn't expect to see Shizuka until at least Mission 4 where she still won't join).

You can have PC SignSeqs later.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 08:17 PM
I could give the PCs some Leader Pokemans.

You mean the PCs can get more leader pokemon?! DUDE AWESOME.

As for your suggestions regarding Berserker Source, you've more or less lost me. That's kinda confusing to read. I think I've got it, but I don't think I can approve it.

Increases rage points generated by an action by 1.5 in exchange for the holder only being able to use moves that deal direct damage (as in, nothing like Sandstorm or Toxic). And the holder can't switch out unless they faint.

Okay, there. Screwed the attack boost. If you can't approve that, I'm out of ideas.

Yes, you can have SignSeqs for two NPCs. But set one for now (Chizuru since she's going to be there) and one for later (because you shouldn't expect to see Shizuka until at least Mission 4 where she still won't join).

Okay, cool.

Astral Harmony
05-14-2010, 08:30 PM
Forgot the N. Screw you, you knew what I mean.

I really don't want to change anything about the Berserker Source, but hey! I'll do something different!

Rule Updates regarding the Rage Point System:

All damage, dealt or recieved, will now grant 5/100 Rage Points. It may not seem like much, but when you consider that you get them from attacking and being attacked, it can quickly add up.
All classes now have another ability called Prime. You forfeit your action and double the amount of Rage generated by attacks recieved on that turn.

Geminex
05-14-2010, 08:58 PM
although it doesn't seem like he wants anything

Way to directly contact Mika and/or Lexhur please, kthxbai.

And I might wait until next mission, to offer constuctive criticism (i.e. whiney bitching) on the Rage Point System (TM). I'd like to see it in action before I write a dozen paragraphs on how it will RUIN THE GAME, MAN. But, like I said, the defensive nature of the whole thing bothers me a bit, particularly the part where you get less points for using super-effective moves.


And yeah, Impact's betting on Charlotte. Or would be, if she could just continue attacking. C'mon, fight!

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 09:05 PM
Mika is joining PATCA, so you should be able to talk to her whenever.

As for Lexhur, no reason you can't visit him between missions. Unless you want to be able to ring him up in the middle of a battle and go "hey wazzup brah".

Menarker
05-14-2010, 09:34 PM
Back from work! Continuing on making my post!

Content includes:

Renny trying to deal with sleep that night.
Renny giving Shizuka wine bottle
Renny giving Shannon/Moon wine bottle.
Watching the entire rich girls scene.
Telling everyone that the family is shocked and angered by the abused hospitality of the "stolen wine" and that regretably, it would be for the best if they didn't visit his house without his express permission. (Figures out that it was Pierce afterwards)
Supporting Moon (And thus Charlotte) and practically denouncing the girls who use their father's influence and the fact that he was adopted as a tool. (Not to mention that they technically tresspassed on his home and spied, so they transpassed on private property of a law enforcement agent and even confessed to it in front of all those law enforcement agents.)

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 09:49 PM
Man, Pierce is going to have a lot of apologies to make the next day.

And I really shouldn't get him drunk anymore. It's fun, but it's going to get him killed. And then Impact will be the hero of this RP. Yeah, no one wants to see that happen.

Menarker
05-14-2010, 09:59 PM
Oh god, let me finish my post before you finish each other off!

Bard The 5th LW
05-14-2010, 10:04 PM
I edited Charlotte's movesets slightly. Not gettin' you the page though.

Basically, I edited Fire Fang in for Buck (arcanine), gave Nasty Plot to Sol-leks (houndoom), made Hammond the second leader (for now) and gave him Thunder Fang and Sky Attack.

Geminex
05-14-2010, 10:20 PM
And then Impact will be the hero of this RP. Yeah, no one wants to see that happen.
Ha ha ha, you say that like it's not inevitable.

Unless you want to be able to ring him up in the middle of a battle and go "hey wazzup brah".
Well, less "Whazzup brah" and more "Put that artillery cannon of yours to good use, we could use some fire support!

Edit:
Oh, and WALL OF TEXT.
I recommend you don't actually read it, just agree to everything Impact says.
I didn't put in all the stuff he was doing last evening, I'll mention that later/

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 10:28 PM
Ha ha ha, you say that like it's not inevitable.

What? Bard made a good argument. Impact is the better leader, sure. More tactically-wise and whatnot. But Pierce has more heroic qualities. And he's only going to get more heroic.

Well, less "Whazzup brah" and more "Put that artillery cannon of yours to good use, we could use some fire support!

I... can't really see that happening.

Edit:
Oh, and WALL OF TEXT.
I recommend you don't actually read it, just agree to everything Impact says

A lot of it is stupid. Thomas Elliot is the bad guy. He needs to die. What we need to do is find some friendly Rogue Generals and keep 'em alive.

Menarker
05-14-2010, 10:29 PM
Oh god, Geminex, I was in the middle of making my post! Can you possibly copy the content and delete it for a bit? I was going to have Renny react and take Pierce aside for a second and all that. Can't quite do that with the current set up. I was hoping people would let me finish!

Also, those girls (Which are all still in the same room) are not involved with PATCA at the moment, so why is Impact spilling private info?

Anyhow, I would appreciate it if you could delete the post and post it after mine.

Geminex
05-14-2010, 10:41 PM
A lot of it is stupid. Thomas Elliot is the bad guy. He needs to die. What we need to do is find some friendly Rogue Generals and keep 'em alive.

Wait, his name is Thomas? When Impact said "Thomas" he meant Lexhur. Because he can't mention Lexhur when Moon and his entourage are there.
And the thing about keeping friendly ruin generals alive? He said that.

Edit:

Anyhow, I would appreciate it if you could delete the post and post it after mine.

Can't you make your post fit? I typed the majority of that post yesterday evening, I don't want to change it again. What d'you want to write?

Menarker
05-14-2010, 10:44 PM
Your post would still fit if it went after mine, but mine wouldn't fit after yours. (Except you might have to change the fact that those ladies DO need to be shooed out of the room or something because they presently have no right to hear any info on Ruin pokemons or anything that could be considered confidential info. They are currently "rich bitches" and never volunteered assistance or showed any value fighting.)

Geminex
05-14-2010, 10:47 PM
Oh very well. Gimme a sec.

Edit: Though Pierce needs to edit his post as well, then.

Bard The 5th LW
05-14-2010, 10:48 PM
Drac, you might have to do the same for yours. It would be rather confusing to have a double reach around anacronic post system. Also, maybe have Pierce be less of a dumbass about misunderstanding Impact. When he said Thomas, Lexhur was the first thing that came to my mind.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 10:49 PM
I could've sworn Elliot's name was Thomas.

Also, whoops. Sorry Menarker.

Man, Pierce may be getting down to business but he's still bombed. Yeah, I should stop posting drunk Pierce now.

Althought it might be better if we do as Menarker suggests and we delete them again and post them after his, because I think we might both be drunk Gem.

Bard The 5th LW
05-14-2010, 10:57 PM
I swear its like I'm the only person ever totally sober on this site.

I wish I could join the fun.

Menarker
05-14-2010, 11:09 PM
I technically don't drink ever. But I work nights, so I get exhausted and all that.

Anyhow, post is done. Many thanks for your accomadation Gem.

Geminex
05-14-2010, 11:14 PM
Oh, I'm drunk allright!
Drunk...
*sunglasses*
with Power.

And ok, Menarker posted. Now Pierce is gonna be all drunk and defensive... I'll have to rewrite my post a bit, but it should be ok. Can I assume that Moon's Harem leaves before Impact starts speaking?

Menarker
05-14-2010, 11:16 PM
Assume that Renny brings Pierce back inside in a few minutes (after Pierce explains himself if he does) and the ladies are sent outside to wait? I think that would be a good idea. Then Pierce can be part of the conversation and the ladies... not.

Dracorion
05-14-2010, 11:20 PM
Actually, I'm not going to be posting anymore drunk Pierce tonight.

Pierce will answer Menarker's inquiry and go straight to bed.

Impact will just need someone else to shoot him down. Menarker, I'm looking at you.

EDIT: Balls!

Bard The 5th LW
05-14-2010, 11:58 PM
Posted. I know Gem was posting, but mine held little pertinence, so I think this little ninjaing can be overlooked.

Dracorion
05-15-2010, 12:06 AM
Technically Pierce is the one who spent the most time with Lexhur and the Kimonos, but yeah, he's indisposed.

Geminex
05-15-2010, 12:09 AM
Also, drunk off his ass. I'll be gone for a few hours, see you this evening.

Menarker
05-15-2010, 12:27 AM
@Geminex: Hey, you typed Menarker in your post instead of Renny in that last post of yours. >_>



Rule Updates regarding the Rage Point System:

All damage, dealt or recieved, will now grant 5/100 Rage Points. It may not seem like much, but when you consider that you get them from attacking and being attacked, it can quickly add up.
All classes now have another ability called Prime. You forfeit your action and double the amount of Rage generated by attacks recieved on that turn.

What about multi-hit attacks like Double Kick, Fire Spin and all that? Do they trigger the rage gain for each hit or for a single move?


- Testament Drive = 50/100 Rage Points. Legendary Pokemon can now use their Testament Drive whenever they are in play. They don't need to be fighting a Ruin General nor do they need to die.


Do they still automatically trigger it when they get knocked out or is that removed?


Anyhow, I'm really trying to think of the Pokemon Co-op technique and the Gal Signature Sequence with Lola. ^___^

Dracorion
05-15-2010, 12:31 AM
Anyhow, I'm really trying to think of the Pokemon Co-op technique and the Gal Signature Sequence with Lola. ^___^

I doubt Renny can do Co-op techniques with his pokemon. Unless it involves wine and getting enemies drunk. You're better off just coming up with a Tech for two pokemon. Swampert using Mollesk to play pinball, maybe?

As for Renny and Lola, I'd suggest Togekiss and Lola get together for Sexy Party 2: Party Til You Drop.

Geminex
05-15-2010, 02:37 AM
@Geminex: Hey, you typed Menarker in your post instead of Renny in that last post of yours. >_>

Screw your precious fourth wall, bitch.

And Falcon, again I am wounded. How can you call Impact's finely-crafted speech unnecessary? So respectless...

Menarker
05-15-2010, 02:38 AM
Well, it's true that Renny himself is pretty useless while fighting (he can't feasiably use Trainer Attack yet), that doesn't mean he can't invent a defensive/support move with Togekiss or so. I'll have to think of some moves though. (I have a few in mind, but not sure if I REALLY want those ones.)

AB, will half demons have access to Signature Techniques as well (in a manner similar to the Kimonos) or is that different because they are all Slayer classes and Slayer classes are the ones with Signature Techniques?

@Geminex:

Screw your precious fourth wall, bitch.


So... the fourth wall is a gloryhole to you? :3:
Still. FIX IT. It looks weird. =P


Anyhow, good night!