Avatar file size limit

[Meister]

Is now 100 kb.

[shiney]

This will remain as such barring the unlikely circumstance that we run out of disk space. We're sitting on about 60 gigs. If you fuckers fill up the harddrive with avatars I will personally see to it that your lives end in the most horrible and humiliating way possible, like atomic wedgie, or choking to death on your girlfriend's dad's dick or something.

[Nikose Tyris]

I see nobody ran that one through the Krylo-izer.

Seriously, we haven't filled 60 GB with text yet? I'm kind of amazed.

[greed]

Man I REALLY want to see a PR spin on that statement.

[synkr0nized]

Seriously, we haven't filled 60 GB with text yet? I'm kind of amazed.

... Do you know how much text that would take?

[TDK]

It would be 60 billion characters, and with about 860,000 posts currently, assuming, perhaps rather generously, that each post is an average of 100 characters, that's 86 million bytes or 8.6 gigs...So tha'ts kinda far off, but that's not taking into account long posts (or short posts).

There's also the html, colored text, and just the bytes taken up by the posting system and stuff. I can only assume it takes more bytes to store a post than just the number of bytes equivalent to the characters they take up.

So I wouldn't be too surprised if we were getting up there. Probably around 20 gigs perhaps? That's not even taking into account hosted images, threads, user profiles, and all that other shit.

[Corel]

With that in mind; Do our posts actually have a character limit on them?

Just in case, you know... if somebody held down the 'A' key for 60^9 times and then accidently pressed submit reply.

[Viridis]

I assume there's some character limit (<= War and Peace) where the server would just choke and die trying to handle your post.

[Kim]

There's a character limit. It's very long and hard to reach though.

[Meister]

10000 characters or so, I think. Haven't seen any post that long in a very long time.

[bluestarultor]

PMs are less, I think. Because I know I ran into a brick wall when I tried to send someone my MMO weapon notes last year. I managed to delete a few sentences and make it fit, but I had much less planned at the time.

Either that, or I just have no good concept of what 10k characters looks like.

[Kim]

No, PMs have a smaller character limit.

[shiney]

For reference the entire forum history in .gzip format compresses to about 200 megs give or take, as memory serves. So yeah we're a long ways off.

[synkr0nized]

It would be 60 billion characters, and with about 860,000 posts currently, assuming, perhaps rather generously, that each post is an average of 100 characters, that's 86 million bytes or 8.6 gigs...So tha'ts kinda far off, but that's not taking into account long posts (or short posts).

There's also the html, colored text, and just the bytes taken up by the posting system and stuff. I can only assume it takes more bytes to store a post than just the number of bytes equivalent to the characters they take up.

Check your math, perhaps? Let's for now ignore the base two aspect of bytes and keep it in base ten for simplicity.

860,000 x 100 = 86,000,000 characters, going along with your numbers
Using the old standard of 1 character = 1 byte, that's thus 86 million bytes, as you said.
86,000,000 / 1000 = 86,000 Kilobytes; 86000/1000 = 86 Megabytes; 86 / 1000 = 0.086 GB, not 8.6

It's slightly less, of course, using 1024 per conversion.

On top of that, note that all data such as avatar, signatures, page format, posts, etc. are contained in PHP and SQL files. And that this information only needs to be stored ONCE regardless of how many times it appears in a thread or how many different users are requesting pages. This means that while each individual page rendered by your browser may seem to have a lot of text to contribute to the total much of it is in fact only drawn together when a page is requested by a browser connecting a user to the server.

It is true that adding color tags and storing the avatars and signature pictures will bump that up slightly, as will the slight overhead of needing identifiers and keys for the database, but it's not going to be as dramatic as a person my at first assume and drastically reduces the storage needs overall.

That seems pretty reasonable, then, that archiving the text aspects with the images we have uploaded that we come in around 200 MB.

[rpgdemon]

I'mma upload a ten gig file. THEN WHAT?

[Ecks]

The character limit is 50000. I know this because the last time I updated OH NOES, I had to split the update into two parts, largely because of said limit.

[bluestarultor]

I'mma upload a ten gig file. THEN WHAT?

They'll ban you a few days from now when it finishes. ;)

[shiney]

Or, death.

[RickZarber]

What was the previous avatar limit? I honestly can't remember.

[synkr0nized]

20 KB, I believe? Maybe only 15.

[phil_]

It was 19.6KB. I, for one, protest this change. Years of making aesthetically pleasing animated avatars under the file size limit have been wasted now. How will the animated .gif makers of tomorrow learn how to optimize their .gifs with such a huge ceiling? This is another intrusion of internet 2.0 on our forum, just like the Facebook-style walls on our user pages and the user groups that don't even tell you when someone has posted. At this rate, we'll all be playing NPF-ville and bad Puyo Pop clones within the year!

Edit: Maybe it was 19.8. It was a sliver under 20K.

[Lumenskir]

Anybody know of a way to make something like this (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/206/510999823_23796e531c_o.gif) feasible for an avatar?

[synkr0nized]

Crop its dimensions and cut it down to the part of the clip you absolutely need* to have in it (i.e. drop frames).


* may in fact be none of them

[phil_]

Anybody know of a way to make something like this (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/206/510999823_23796e531c_o.gif) feasible for an avatar?This is what I'm talking about!

[Mike McC]

I'm sure nothing annoying will come of this.

[Meister]

Of course we're reserving the right to make adjustments if the entire left side of every thread ends up looking like the Vegas strip at night.

[Ecks]

Oh come now Meister. We may enjoy pushing the envelope, but we don't go that far... do we?

[bluestarultor]

Oh come now Meister. We may enjoy pushing the envelope, but we don't go that far... do we?

Of course not!

[phil_]

6.95Kb, blues? That avatar would be totally legit under the old system. It's like you're not even trying.

[synkr0nized]

I was waiting for that.

[bluestarultor]

6.95Kb, blues? That avatar would be totally legit under the old system. It's like you're not even trying.

http://i48.tinypic.com/345c7e8.jpg

[Bells]

You guys need to know how to celebrate 100kb Avatars...

[Kim]

The new limit makes me want to make an animated gif avatar, but that sounds like too much of a pain in the ass so I guess I'll stick with Ryo Akizuki for now.

[phil_]

You guys need to know how to celebrate 100kb Avatars...Says Mr. 41.13 KB.hilariousreactionimage.jpgYou know, you're right, I did misconstrue your intention. I thought that, by making a flashy avatar in the style of a Vegas marquee while assuring Meister that we wouldn't abuse the newly raised file size limit, you intended to be ironic by contradicting said assurances in the same post: a joke that falls flat when one checks the file size of your avatar. Instead, your joke seems to be that, if we wanted to light up the side of the forum like Vegas, we didn't need the file size limit raised to do so: a joke that only works when one checks the file size of your avatar, which sucks as a joke because who in the world is going to go around checking how big peoples' avatars are?

Edit: Also,I was waiting for that.Glad I could help.
The new limit makes me want to make an animated gif avatar, but that sounds like too much of a pain in the ass so I guess I'll stick with Ryo Akizuki for now.Get an entire Idol M@ster song as an animated .gif.

[bluestarultor]

Actually, I was banking on people recognizing that it's only two frames.

[Krylo]

And then my avatar took a level in bad ass.

[phil_]

Actually, I was banking on people recognizing that it's only two frames.It should be 80 unoptimized frames!

[Kim]

Get an entire Idol M@ster song as an animated .gif.

That sounds like a lot of work...

[bluestarultor]

It should be 80 unoptimized frames!

Dude, all I have is UnFREEze. I'll avoid carpal tunnel, thanks. :p

Although now I COULD do that Thad Attack GIF if it fit in the size limit.


Edit: Nope, but Toshi stalking does. Unfortunately, all he does is stalk the edge of the screen.

[Mike McC]

The GIMP makes handling animated gifs pretty easy. It's what I use for editing down all the ones I make.

(also blues you are still terrible at jokes stop forever k)

[phil_]

The GIMP makes handling animated gifs pretty easy. It's what I use for editing down all the ones I make.It's what I used for editing up my avatar from ~40k to 96.

[Bells]

Says Mr. 41.13 KB.

Oh, alright! FINE! There, happy now?

...cause i kinda am...

[Kim]

The GIMP makes handling animated gifs pretty easy.

Yeah, probably. I actually deleted it from my computer not too long ago because I only ever used it to make one gif. I might download it again if I find something particularly gif worthy.

[Amake]

I think I deserve some kind of prize for using the smallest avatar and the smallest sig in like, the whole world. Yeah I'm pushin the envelope the other way.

[Mike McC]

I think I deserve some kind of prize for using the smallest avatar and the smallest sig in like, the whole world. Yeah I'm pushin the envelope the other way.Except, even in just this thread, TCK and Rick Zarber have smaller avatar flesizes, and Meister and phil have smaller signatures :crossarms:.

[phil_]

phil have smaller signatures :crossarms:.What? No, the cat makes my signature bigger.

[Amake]

And Meister doesn't seem to have a signature. But I should probably have looked at those file sizes before making my bold claim.

[Mike McC]

What? No, the cat makes my signature bigger.That's kinda weird, having things left justified like that. Can't notice that shit on widescreen formats, man.

Also, ssssh.And Meister doesn't seem to have a signature. But I should probably have looked at those file sizes before making my bold claim.No signature is smaller than any signature. You can't claim to have a smaller signature when someone has nothing at all as thiers.

[Amake]

It's smaller than any other signature on the forum. If you don't have any sig you do not have a small sig, you do in fact not have any sig. Things that do not exist are not, well, things. I would think.

REdit: Very enlightening. I still got the smaller signature, but that was beautifully written.

[Mike McC]

It's smaller than any other signature on the forum. If you don't have any sig you do not have a small sig, you do in fact not have any sig. Things that do not exist are not, well, things. I would think.It is a statement on the futility of the signature. It is a bold, empty space, designed to be noticeable not by content, but y lack thereof. It shows that we, a a society, have trained ourselves to tune out these repetitive epithets, this little pieces of others, to be blind to them, and are only made aware of their existence by the uncomfort caused by absence. Much like we as a people are blind to one another, until absence makes us realize how truly dependent on others we are.

You say it doesn't count, I say it is the most bold, poignant, and IMPORTANT statement in this thread.

You have been bested this day. BEGONE!

[Rejected Again]

Some one needs to make this (http://i47.tinypic.com/262sfpx.gif) legit.

[Krylo]

Don't hotlink to hotlinking restricted sites.

Lord.

[Rejected Again]

Don't hotlink to hotlinking restricted sites.

Lord.

I'm not the Lord, but thanks...OH! Yeah, should be fixed now.

E:Goddamnit Fine, I'll do it the hard way....

[Mike McC]

Wit tinypic, imageshack, and photobucket, no one should hotlink and leech off of other websites' bandwidth anyway.

Because that shit just ain't cool.

[Rejected Again]

I was feeling lazy, as usual.

[bluestarultor]

(also blues you are still terrible at jokes stop forever k)

It's not my fault you can't recognize a two-frame animation.


Anyway, it's served its purpose.

[Mike McC]

It's not my fault you can't recognize a two-frame animation.


Anyway, it's served its purpose.Once again, that wasn't the problem.

The problem is that the joke was terrible.

And now you have a furry avatar or something. Fantastic.

[bluestarultor]

Once again, that wasn't the problem.

The problem is that the joke was terrible.

And now you have a furry avatar or something. Fantastic.

Someone wasn't paying attention since the forums died. That character's been in there since then.


And if you ignored the filesize, like everyone but phil_ did, the joke still worked. The file size was an Easter egg.


Wizardcat got it, though.

[shiney]

This is no longer forum related stuff and is being closed.

P.S. Mike & bluesy knock it off or I'm totally making you two in charge of teenage bitchfights.

Responsibilities include fighting like teenage bitches.