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Kurosen
06-01-2010, 09:22 AM
Sorry for the delay, guys! Hope you like it (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2010/06/01/the-epilogue/).

Geminex
06-01-2010, 09:30 AM
That was... fitting. Not the epic punch-line-to-end-all-punch-lines, not the epic anticlimax. Not a combination of the two. Just, it seems, the closest 8-bit is ever going to get to "And they lived happily ever after". Which, I think, is just fine.

And I loved the characters in the background. "Akbar's not useless tools". Wonderful.

Thanks, Brian.

Viridis
06-01-2010, 09:39 AM
I agree with Gem. Exactly the way it should go.


It was a fun ride.

A Zarkin' Frood
06-01-2010, 09:39 AM
At last. I'm not sure if it's due to the art or if it was intended, but the Light Warriors seem less like jerks now.

Now I can re-read the whole thing in the next 10 years.

tshadowdrag
06-01-2010, 09:45 AM
"Sects buddies" is going to be something of the heh stories alone. Silly Red Mage and his wording. Looks like that slash stuff will live on beyond 8 bit too.

Overall it was really fitting, I don't know if I was the only one to see it but how for the last panels it was great seeing how everything was more like the first comics. It really does fit perfectly for an ending.

Thanks for the 9 years of an incredible journey with the bumbling four, may many more happen in what universes come from HIKYM and Warbot.

greed
06-01-2010, 09:46 AM
This was almost exactly what I was hoping for, awesome and thank you.

Love the characters in Matt's style too. Specially Fighter and Black Mage.

Lumenskir
06-01-2010, 09:54 AM
Ha ha, just kidding, it was a pretty great end. I'm not too familiar with the beginnings of all of the FF games, so which one was the final straw before they descended into bullshit?

But yeah, this was my first webcomic, so thanks for making it one of the best ones.

Chocobo
06-01-2010, 10:10 AM
Are those freckles on White Mage?

Also I expected hand drawn Black Mage to be fatter

PurpleMage
06-01-2010, 10:10 AM
I've waited a very long time for this, I've gone through my entire high school life and a couple years beyond with this comic. It was my first web-comic found and honestly will be dearly missed on my Tues/Thurs/Saturday schedule.

Epic comic, thank you so much Brian for all your dedication to your broke, angry, and nerdy fans. I appreciate it.

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 10:15 AM
And I loved the characters in the background. "Akbar's not useless tools". Wonderful.

I had to tap into my reservoir of 8-bit nerdiness for a lot of this, but I think the whole "Doctor Unne's robe is yellow" thing was my dorkiest moment.

The look of the Light Warriors and stuff I guess is now "8-bit canon" (went over the designs w/ Brian so he could approve 'em) but the minor background characters and stuff weren't in the script and I just tossed them in there as best I could think of them.. Like Akbar and Evil Princess Sara and Lefthandman Gary. So I guess if I fucked 'em up (cos you know how specific sprites are!) blame me ^_^


Are those freckles on White Mage?

Also I expected hand drawn Black Mage to be fatter

Yes those are freckles. She's Irish! (maybe?)


Black Mage has robes on and he's malnourished, not fat. It's grosser that way.

Magic_Marker
06-01-2010, 10:15 AM
My procratination will never be the same. Thanks for the fun times.

Super King
06-01-2010, 10:18 AM
I assume by everything after fighting the Shadowlord was FFXII and FFXIII? Anyway, I can't believe it's here. And it was pretty much what I was hoping for. Closure. One last thing. Do the light warriors have any of their powers back, or are they still level 0?

Magic_Marker
06-01-2010, 10:20 AM
After three years I assume some of them would have gotten some power.

Drak
06-01-2010, 10:24 AM
had to register an account and come here just to say thank you so much for this comic series. I've been reading it for a while now, and it's always been really awesome to me. I look forward to whatever you plan on doing next!

Chocobo
06-01-2010, 10:25 AM
Fighter and Black Mage probably did because they've been adventuring

Maybe Red Mage

Probably not for Thief though because it looks like hes been sitting on his healed ass this whole time

Nuklear Waste
06-01-2010, 10:30 AM
Beautiful. Just, beautiful. Thank you to everyone who worked on it. Loved all the cameos, and especially loved the ending. :dance:

Only complaint would be no one dressed as Drizz'l in the restaurant, as far as I can tell. (EDIT2: Just noticed the Drizz'l sprite picture. Yay!!!)

EDIT: Are the monster guy (Sulk?) and girl looking at the Vilbert picture a cameo? Same goes for the fat and skinny guys towards the end. I think I got all the other references. :D

And thanks again, Brian, for filling my Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays with joy all these years.

Red King
06-01-2010, 10:31 AM
Wow.

I haven't been here the longest, and I'm probably not the biggest fan around. But I've been following this comic for years, and I looked forward to everyday when there would be a new one. Life has been especially hell the last few years, family, work, economy, etc. And while this webcomic didn't do anything magical like make it all better, it gave me something to look forward to and laugh at, and that is something I really needed.

So I believe that this is a perfectly fitting, beyond satisfactory ending.

Thank you for all the hard work you put into this comic. And of course thanks to all those who helped it along the way.

Bobbey
06-01-2010, 10:34 AM
It's been a while since I posted anything, so I came back specifically to congratulate Brian for all his hard work for these last couple years. I think I started reading the comic back in 2006/2007 and I've been a regular reader since then.

Kudos to you and to everyone who worked on this project throughout the years.

Thanks for the laughs!

-Bobbie

shiney
06-01-2010, 10:36 AM
Very nicely done and a fitting end. Good work Brian.

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 10:40 AM
Only complaint would be no one dressed as Drizz'l in the restaurant, as far as I can tell. (EDIT2: Just noticed the Drizz'l sprite picture. Yay!!!)


He got a poster! Same goes w/ Vilbert.


Are the monster guy (Sulk?) and girl looking at the Vilbert picture a cameo? Same goes for the fat and skinny guys towards the end. I think I got all the other references. :D

Aside from the Mob Boss, Shovel Guy (the guy Thief accused of rigorously masturbating), Akbar, Cult Member, and Unne, I'm pretty sure all the other peons in Crapton are just random peons.

The girl w/ Sulk is Vilbert's mom :)

Chocobo
06-01-2010, 10:45 AM
Was Thief going to say "I thought hated us" or "hated them"

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope
06-01-2010, 10:47 AM
Is the whole Diner part inspired by the end of Kingdom Come?

Also was the Quest Board a lift from Dragon Age?

I loved the ending. It seemed so diffiernt, so perfect but...sad at the same time.

Thank you Brian/Kurosen for a great many years if enjoyment.

justice~!
06-01-2010, 10:47 AM
Awesome.

I loved how it ended introducing the main characters in reverse from the beginning, and ended with Fighter and Black Mage still adventuring around together even after all of that.

Great ending!!

Thanks again Brian.

KillBill
06-01-2010, 10:54 AM
"sects buddies" + red mage eating with mask on + "that's been taken" + bm & fighter together at the end = lol :P Some subtle jokes too, nice. Fitting end for Fighter & BM... all of em really. nice work!
Oh, and thanks for providing us free entertainment for however many years.

POS Industries
06-01-2010, 11:18 AM
It's a magical world, Black Mage, ol' buddy... Let's go exploring!

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope
06-01-2010, 11:20 AM
It's a magical world, Black Mage, ol' buddy... Let's go exploring!

Well played...

Solid Snake
06-01-2010, 11:21 AM
Lovely job. (Though I have to agree with a prior comment, it looks like Matt Speroni's art or Brian's tearful epilogue writing assignment has somehow translated to an increase in intelligence and wisdom for nearly every Light Warrior, with perhaps the suitable exception of Fighter.)

This felt like the perfect way to end things.
I'm really looking forward to HIKYM starting back up, too.

Sabishii Kouen
06-01-2010, 11:34 AM
Ha ha, just kidding, it was a pretty great end. I'm not too familiar with the beginnings of all of the FF games, so which one was the final straw before they descended into bullshit?

But yeah, this was my first webcomic, so thanks for making it one of the best ones.[/swap]
The last one with the Shadowlord was the main plotline of FFXI (the MMORPG). (Was that what you wanted know?)

Anyway, this is what I wanted to see in an ending, though I didn't see Darko in there anywhere. Great ending to a great comic. It was a wild ride these past umpteen years, but it was worth it, though sad to see it end.

Bells
06-01-2010, 11:47 AM
Not too hot and not too cold, juuuuuuuuuuuuust right!

Nicely done guys!

Donomni
06-01-2010, 12:00 PM
It's a magical world, Black Mage, ol' buddy... Let's go exploring!

This statement is the perfect summation of my thoughts on the epilogue. Just really nice, you know?

Also, very surprising the only thing keeping Thief from robbing the world blind(with his own two hands, at least) is being a king.

RickZarber
06-01-2010, 12:04 PM
That made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Thank you Brian and Matt. Pitch-perfect.

Alexeon
06-01-2010, 12:09 PM
This was my first webcomic and my favorite the whole time. Ive been reading it since like page 200 or something and after following it for so long its hard to imagine that its done now...

But that said, I loved the ending and the epilogue. All kinds of references and funnyness and to top it all off, White Mage looks really cute. I can see why Black Mage kept trying to court her. :P


Thanks to Brian and everyone else involved with 8BT over the years. Its been great and I look forward to more stuff from the creative minds at nuklearpower.com - especially Atomic Robo. :D

Astrobot7000
06-01-2010, 12:12 PM
Man, that was great.
I find it especially funny that no one has a nose… except Red Mage and he keeps it covered.

But as for the finale, it was really good. I would’ve liked to have had the Darko/Swordopolis thing mentioned, but that’s all right as everything else was perfect. I really did enjoy it. There was so much fan service it was amazing. The Messenger/Royal Guard, cultist, mob boss, Sulk, etc, etc, the list goes on. Plus it was GREAT to see Dragoon again.

Well Brian, I just have to say thank you. I know you hated your comic for the last half of it, but I, and about a million others, LOVED it. I agree with the person who posted before me. The comic really gave me something to look forward to during a particularly sad time in my life. It always brought a smirk to my face and I loved it from the very beginning. It will be deeply DEEPLY missed, but it went out the way it should and the fact that you gave us an epilogue was fantastic of you. Plus, now you can finally wash your hands of it forever and move on. I hope in the future you can look back and at least appreciate how happy you made many people, even though you hated your own comic.

I wish you luck in all of your future endeavors and I will continue to buy your comics and read the ones that are here. Thanks again man.

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 12:19 PM
I've been reading 8-bit since they were fighting those two green werewolves (I guess that was page 90ish?). That's why I put their heads on that wall :)

Dachimotsu
06-01-2010, 12:25 PM
I started reading this when I was still in High School, around the time they had gotten to the Water Shrine. I remember reading all of it up until that point in the matter of a week, and I've been constantly monitoring it ever since.

[/congratulatory mode]

But now that 8-bit is out of the way, the road has been paved for MY FF webcomic, which will be just as epic, if not more so! (see sig)

Marinated-in-Sin
06-01-2010, 12:29 PM
I was actually expecting the entire epilogue to be the words "The End" and maybe "Fuck You Guys ahahaha", so that was a pleasant surprise.

Green Spanner
06-01-2010, 12:34 PM
OMG NOW BRIAN HAS TO DO FF 2 AND THEN 3 AND THEN ALL OF THEM AFTER THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

But in all seriousness, I would just like to thank Brian for sticking it through until the end. Almost a decade is a long time to work on a comic, and he could have ended it at any time to work on more rewarding projects.

Although I've only been reading the comic since c.2005, I've always felt it pushed the boundaries of the sprite comic, showed what could be done with little more than images ripped from games with writing to prop it up. But at the end of the day it's done all it can do in this regard, and Brian has moved on to better things.

I don't feel disappointed that its over. Rather, I feel satisfied that it came, it saw, it kicked some ass, and then it died peacefully. What more can you ask from a story?

So yeah, thanks Brian for those years of 8-bit.

Also, thanks Mr. Speroni for the art. You're on top form as usual I see.

Now both of you get back to work on HIKYM, damnit!


EDIT: Reading the epilogue whilst playing the FF ending theme adds to the experience somewhat.

ForeverHero
06-01-2010, 12:34 PM
I may not be a very active fan, but I've been reading this comic since 2006 and I have to say:
Thanks for all the moments of laugh, Brian, I loved your story and your epilogue.
Oh, I forgot to thank Matt for the wonderful drawings too.

Also, Gary and Sara?


http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww253/ForeverHero/GaryandSara.jpg

EDIT: Just noticed now that were already aware of them.

Warrioroflightfromanother
06-01-2010, 12:47 PM
Great job, very good epilogue and I loved artwork. This comic even had ninjas.

//edit: too bad we didn't see Thiefs wife.

Ravashak
06-01-2010, 01:21 PM
I love the many, MANY little touches in this, very well done, Brian and Matt

Sliths
06-01-2010, 01:28 PM
Very nice

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 01:36 PM
EDIT: Reading the epilogue whilst playing the FF ending theme adds to the experience somewhat.

Drawing it while listening to the music does too :) I actually got kind of sad myself working on the last page.

Dr. Casey
06-01-2010, 01:37 PM
Well Brian, I just have to say thank you. I know you hated your comic for the last half of it, but I, and about a million others, LOVED it.

I don't think he ever hated it, did he? I just thought he was getting somewhat burned out and wanted to focus on his other projects more.

Great ending, it was worth the wait. White Mage is pretty cute, I see why Black Mage spent so much of the series wanting to tap that, and I laughed at the part where there was already a black mage recruited for the rescue of the Alexandrian princess.

g00w
06-01-2010, 01:42 PM
I thought I had an old account lying around, but either I never actually signed up or it's just lost to the ages. Anyway! Figured it was worth my tiny amount of effort to sign up and just say thank you. So, thank you! My lunch breaks at work will feel a bit empty now. Great ending, by the way.

Eochaid
06-01-2010, 01:43 PM
Lolz, fighter finally got his sword chucks (stabby...double lolz). Also, loved the dead mindflayer and the "doin fine" sign.

furyx639
06-01-2010, 01:45 PM
I just registered to say thank you for all the wonderful years of comic entertainment you have provided me! I remember discovering 8-bit theater while I was still in high school. Now, six years later, I have continued to read all of your comics here. It almost makes me sad that it's finally over, but, looking back, it was a great run.

Thanks again guys.

Katuko
06-01-2010, 01:53 PM
And so it ends almost like it started, but with epic art and some character development. I like it. Thank you, Brian, for all these years. :) I'm glad to see that everyone got a happy ending of sorts, even though they didn't deserve it. :P

Borealis
06-01-2010, 02:11 PM
Thanks so, so much for all the effort and time you've put into this. Not just you, Brain, but you too, Matt, everyone who made a guest comic, everyone who was even mildly involved...
This was beautiful. Fantastic. I was half expecting an anti-climax, too, but no. And thank you for that, for a genuine end.
But, fuck, they need noses. Why does Red Mage have one and nobody else? Scary.

Gamer8585
06-01-2010, 02:15 PM
Excellent. Just freaking excellent.

You do know that you have to keep going. Sorry Brian 8-bit theater can't end now or ever. Even if you die our collective will shall force your ghost to write and sprite for us until the end of all existence.

Just accept your fate and keep going. Forever. C'mon. Please? There will be cake at the end of everything.

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 02:20 PM
they need noses. Why does Red Mage have one and nobody else? Scary.

Think Final Fantasy Tactics style art.

Borealis
06-01-2010, 02:25 PM
Ahh... Brilliant, then! Who decided on the easter eggs? In the background 'n' such.

Moogleking
06-01-2010, 02:34 PM
Was that King Steve I spied :P

Awesome ending to an awesome comic, I approve fully. So you KNOW its cool.

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 02:42 PM
Ahh... Brilliant, then! Who decided on the easter eggs? In the background 'n' such.

I guess I did about 80% of them. That's part of the reason it took so long.


However one background Easter Egg which was removed due to credit-placement was the "Faux-Armoire of Invincibility" on page 1. That was Brian's idea. The little sign that has the credits on it originally had text which indicated it was the Armoire, but it got changed.

I dunno if I shoulda pointed that out or not, it seems less easter-eggy now that I told you it was there.. ah well, I tell it to you anyway :D

AdamWill
06-01-2010, 02:54 PM
I'd just like to say that I've read NP for years (including all of 8bt) and never before been inclined to join the forums. yet here I am today, jumping through new user registration posts, simply to say:

holy crap fighter is hawt!

where do I go to get some sekrit fighter pr0n? I would *totally* be sects buddies with him...=)

Bard The 5th LW
06-01-2010, 02:55 PM
I thought it was wonderful The writing, the drawing, everything.

All I have to say is: I'll miss you 8-bit theater. Hope I enjoy Brian's other works as much as this one.

Hatake Kakashi
06-01-2010, 03:02 PM
I also loved seeing the sword-chucks on fighter. Given that he possesses all of his appendages, he's either mastered them, or never used them. But they look awesome, regardless.

I've seen the eating-through-the-mask joke before, it's a favorite among Kakashi fans, but still very well done.

8-bit theater going on to FF2? Would that be the FF2 that the US didn't see for many years, or the relabeled FF4? I'd love to see a 16-bit theater out of that. Cecil being quite an emo-child, Kain always wanting to tap Cecil's sloppy seconds... somehow, I see Edge being descended from Thief. And Mysidia would be a trip... Black Mages everywhere with nary a Fighter in sight... just lots of White Mages with big, big hammers. The Paladin story could be explained with some sort of Mysidian Idol scheme, where nobody's ever won previously (plenty of Black Magey-William Hungs who tried, though). And plenty of "double moons" jokes to satisfy the basest of interests.

Wouldn't come as a shock to me to find Bahamut being forced to move to the Lunitarian moon after losing the house to the witch in the divorce, leaving their bastard children to run rampant in various caves without adequate parental supervision. And in the Land of the Summoned Monsters, Asura's mood swings could be simply explained, yet so, so epic....

rpgdemon
06-01-2010, 03:18 PM
So, I was totally right about the epic-logue/other project! I feel proud.

Also, I liked it. Thanks, Brian/Matt/Jeff!

HisshouBuraiken
06-01-2010, 03:19 PM
Well that's that. Thanks for the ride, Brian!

Why the big deal about Red Mage's mask though? We've seen him without it plenty of times.

Well, we've seen DEBORAH, but close enough right?

justice~!
06-01-2010, 03:41 PM
I've been reading 8-bit since they were fighting those two green werewolves (I guess that was page 90ish?). That's why I put their heads on that wall :)

I *loved* that.

justice~!
06-01-2010, 03:46 PM
On another note - in panel 1, is that the old man in blue that stole Fighter and BM's money in the first place?

KillBill
06-01-2010, 03:48 PM
And now it's time for... 9-BIT THEATER
Right? Right?
... ...
...

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 03:49 PM
On another note - in panel 1, is that the old man in blue that stole Fighter and BM's money in the first place?


Yup :)

My personal fanfic backstory is that he and Jeff have a massive con-game going where they trick would be heroes into giving them money for tips on quests and stuff.

So really, the old man in blue saved the world, I mean, had he not tricked Fighter out of his money, Fighter wouldn't have applied for the Light Warriors job..

psychokiller
06-01-2010, 04:13 PM
Hi there, not a frequent poster, but this seems as good a time and thread to post as any.

I first found this comic in the early Survivor 8-bit days and have read it regularly since. Sad to see it end, but it had to happen sooner or later. Thank you, Brian Clevinger, for 9 years of sadist show comedy, one of the finest examples I have encountered of said form of comedy. And thank you Matt Speroni and Jeff Powell for illustrating and lettering the ending so beautifully. It was a fun ride that spanned my latter high school days and the entirety of my college education and I'm glad to have been on it.

Panthera
06-01-2010, 04:22 PM
Whoa, the epilogue is all...fancy and serious and not all about infuriating everyone who reads it! Cool. Loving all the little references in the background. Have to say this seems like as fitting an ending as I could have hoped for.

Xshu
06-01-2010, 04:44 PM
The fact that we all got the amazing proper ending we were hoping for has me all paranoid. Brian didn't use this chance to drop another "it was all a dream" on us? I keep half-expecting another shoe to drop.

I'm going to say the reason Red Mage and Thief seem so much saner is that they've spent three years away from the rest of the Light Warriors living quasi-normal lives. In Black Mage's case, it's probably more depression and impotent resignation that make him act normal.

Carade
06-01-2010, 04:46 PM
I like this ending.

It's fitting.

Rukifellth
06-01-2010, 04:48 PM
I have read the comic since... heck I don't even remember, but I love it! :D

It's sad to see it end, but I did wonder what would happen after they beat Chaos, would it be over? Probably so. :(

Well...

Unless The Final Fantasy world is struck by chaos once again, when a wicked Empire lead by Emperor Mateus decides to invade Elf-Land and conquer the world. Forcing Thief to gather up heroes to oppose this force... well... only to have the misfortune to have to seek aid from som old... 'friends'...

Is that a good idea? Moving on to FF2, but placing it in the same world and switching the leads to the 8Bit-Theatre cast?

stabbity death
06-01-2010, 04:50 PM
I am about to read. I just want to commemorate the moment. I've been reading this since the third strip, and there will never be another new one again. This, for some reason, seems profound to me.

Okay.

Edit: gleeeeeeeeeee

It was wonderful!

HisshouBuraiken
06-01-2010, 05:01 PM
Waaaaaait a second, is that ACTUALLY Garland and not just an in-costume waiter?! He's shocked to see Left-Hand man Gary and EPS (both of whom I just noticed on the second read-through)

And Sulk! I missed him too! Awesome :D

tearseller
06-01-2010, 05:02 PM
Thank you, Brian.

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 05:08 PM
Waaaaaait a second, is that ACTUALLY Garland and not just an in-costume waiter?! He's shocked to see Left-Hand man Gary and EPS (both of whom I just noticed on the second read-through

Mmmmaybe, I left it kind of ambiguous. However, I did think it'd be funny if the actual Garland was down on his luck and could only get a job working in a theme restaurant based partially on himself. So it might actually be him after all!

It's all in how you wanna see it :)

The Wandering God
06-01-2010, 05:17 PM
I couldn't think of a more fitting end to the series.

Thanks for the laughs Brian.

And congrats on using this to really shine (Atomic Robo, writing for Marvel).

Well done indeed.

You're the best around. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWvub_WBho)

Aldurin
06-01-2010, 05:17 PM
It almost seems like it will someday continue at some point when Brian gets the feeling he should restart 8-bit (I mean when he gets the feeling while he's sober).

Economy musta been bad as everyone had to sell their noses.

That was awesome seeing the squid-face cult dude.

Was the guy with the "Doin' fine" sign Garland without his armor?

Nuklear Waste
06-01-2010, 05:26 PM
For some reason, I feel ashamed as a geek for not getting who Jeff was talking to until multiple readings and for not getting the Twelve Dragons joke* at first (I stared at my screen for a minute when I first read until the 9 part got to me)...Yet I got the shovel reference upon first sight.

*And that's easily one of the funniest/most memorable strips ever fer cryin' out loud!

Was the guy with the "Doin' fine" sign Garland without his armor?
Mob Boss and his lackey. (From when the Light Warriors took over that nameless town as the "City Guard".)

EDIT: For Matt: Am I correct in assuming that King Steve/Matoya/Bikke/Garland were people in costumes, whereas Sulk, Mrs. Von Vampire, Gary, and Sara are the real dealz?

Lost in Time
06-01-2010, 05:39 PM
"Doin' Fine" was one of my favorite moments in 8-bit history. I'm so glad that you brought that back. Great epilogue. It really worked.

Flarecobra
06-01-2010, 05:42 PM
Mmmmaybe, I left it kind of ambiguous. However, I did think it'd be funny if the actual Garland was down on his luck and could only get a job working in a theme restaurant based partially on himself. So it might actually be him after all!

It's all in how you wanna see it :)

Well, he could be the OWNER of the place too...

Dasvaun
06-01-2010, 05:58 PM
I don't even know how long it's been since I started reading 8-bit. All I know is it was in the very early parts and I was WAY too young to get 90% of it.

Having, read the whole series (and remembering when Brian and Black Mage were dancing together) the only way I can describe it is that this is truly the end of an Era. He always has been, and always will be brilliant (and a million times funnier than I could ever hope to be).

"Everything after that sounds like a waste of time"
The thing that makes me cry is how true that is.

Good luck with anything and everything you do Brian. I'll be sure to buy all the Atomic Robo I can find(as soon as I recover from the condition of being broke).

Ecks
06-01-2010, 06:03 PM
/standing ovation

Seriously. I know you have fuckawesome powers of comic-bookery to wield now, but Brian, I am glad that you, Matt, and Jeff put this together. It may not tie up every loose end, but then the best stories are the ones you make long pages of Wild Mass Guessing for anyway, right?

Speaking of fuckawesome powers of comic-bookery, I'm looking forward to seeing some of your work for Marvel! Congratulations on becoming an Ascended Fan!

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 06:09 PM
EDIT: For Matt: Am I correct in assuming that King Steve/Matoya/Bikke/Garland were people in costumes, whereas Sulk, Mrs. Von Vampire, Gary, and Sara are the real dealz?

Yeah, with the possible exception of Garland depending on how you choose to see it.

I tried to make the cosplayers look as UNlike the person they're cosplaying as possible. That's why King Steve is a black guy/girl (I'm not sure), Matoya is a young, gawky looking girl, and Bikke is a scrawny blond guy with an obvious fake beard. Garland on the other hand? It's hard to tell.

HisshouBuraiken
06-01-2010, 06:41 PM
Mmmmaybe, I left it kind of ambiguous. However, I did think it'd be funny if the actual Garland was down on his luck and could only get a job working in a theme restaurant based partially on himself. So it might actually be him after all!

It's all in how you wanna see it :)

Actually I assumed it was a costumed guy until i noticed the surprised lines. I could definitely see Garland making the effort to PERSONALLY see to it all his customers got excellent service. I bet my water would never dip below 75% with Garland on the case. He always goes the extra mile, that guy.

and for not getting the Twelve Dragons joke* at first (I stared at my screen for a minute when I first read until the 9 part got to me)

AAAH I JUST GOT IT LOOOOOOOOL

The only one I can't figure out is the fat and skinny guys. I think that's it though, on the 3rd readthrough I noticed the ogre and the Buster Sword/Gunblade among the not useless tools.

Skit
06-01-2010, 06:48 PM
Well, it's been a crazy couple of years. Way to go, Brian and artist whose name I forget.

Also is it just me or did Thief change class to Dark Knight or something because I think he stole Oswald's shoes.
:3:
http://i48.tinypic.com/2a0lr28.jpg

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 07:00 PM
The only one I can't figure out is the fat and skinny guys...

They're aren't anyone specific. The yokel buying the shovel w/ the hole in it from Akbar isn't anyone specific either.

I noticed.... the Buster Sword/Gunblade among the not useless tools.


yay :D

Nuklear Waste
06-01-2010, 07:01 PM
Something tells me it's a mix of "Prince Elf" as seen in this episode (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2003/02/18/episode-250-is-that-plot-thickening-i-smell/) (with the cape being Thief's usual colour), Thief's ninja outfit, and elven shoes.

Dieben
06-01-2010, 07:02 PM
Like a ton of other people I joined the forums for just this post to say thanks and praise.

Thank you for a very entertaining tale that brought me back to the good ole' days of the NES, Dungeons and Dragons, and random humorous and obscure references. This comic not only brightened my day about twice a week and and gave me countless "oh yeah, I get it..." moments, but also inspired me to become a writer. I don't want to get all mushy and crap, so to sum up this rambling digression: Thank you Brian for many years of your great work. I truly wish you the best.

Also, thanks for the laugh about Cloud's Buster Sword and Squall's Gunblade being in Akbar's Not Useless Tools Shop.

Many Thanks,
~Dieben

Dandy Mick
06-01-2010, 07:03 PM
Like many other long-time reader, first-time posters, the EpicLogue finally tipped my hand and forced me to register to thank you for the years of entertainment, Mr Clevinger.

For the better part of a decade, this sadistically funny comic has been something I've never failed to enjoy. To see such a poignant send-off to the series when you were well within your rights to point out that you had already finished the story months ago is a fabulous treat.

Again, I salute you. May you find success in all your future endeavours.

Also, thanks to Matt Speroni and Jeff Powell for their stellar work on the final comic.

Bob The Mercenary
06-01-2010, 07:18 PM
Speroni doesn't have enough work. Next job should be a complete remastering of the entire series in Speroni-HD.

Enjoyed every episode and it will always be a staple of my high school/college years. Well done.

Link_991
06-01-2010, 07:19 PM
I can't help but feel as if the 12 dragon nachos joke is missing a "fuck you" in there some where, btw does anyone kno which comic that's from

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 07:21 PM
Speroni doesn't have enough work. Next job should be a complete remastering of the entire series in Speroni-HD.

If someone will pay me.. (and of course if it gets the "okay" from the Creator)

Astrobot7000
06-01-2010, 07:21 PM
I actually don't get the 12 dragons joke. Can someone explain it to me? I just thought it was a poke fun at those bar nachos that are so damn loaded you cant even eat them.

Fungrus
06-01-2010, 07:24 PM
I can't remember how I came to find 8bit theater, but it's been the only thing that I have consistently come to the internet for in the last 10 years. So... thanks for all the memories.

#@®®ˇ$
06-01-2010, 07:27 PM
Thanks for the ride, Brian.

No disrespect to Matt's art (which is awesome - waiting for more HIKYM episodes!), but someone could make a sprite version of this just to see how many sprites can be cramped into one panel. :)

Link_991
06-01-2010, 07:28 PM
I can't help but feel as if the 12 dragon nachos joke is missing a "fuck you" in there some where, btw does anyone kno which comic that's from
I actually don't get the 12 dragons joke. Can someone explain it to me? I just thought it was a poke fun at those bar nachos that are so damn loaded you cant even eat them.

found it
http://www.nuklearpower.com/2008/06/10/episode-1003-not-up-to-code/

Astrobot7000
06-01-2010, 07:30 PM
Bwa hahaha!
That's great. I can't believe they worked that in there.
I agree, there should be a 'fuck you' on the menu somewhere.

Locke cole
06-01-2010, 08:03 PM
Wait a second.

There are decidedly more than 9 nachos on Dragoon's plate. Take a look at the plate during the "Sects buddies" line. I see at least 11.

edit: oh wait that's part of the joke.

See, I thought that the comic tat you were linking as part of the joke was going to be to that comic where they go to that absolutely horrible restaurant and eat fried lead.

Which number was that one, again?

Geminex
06-01-2010, 08:26 PM
One more character that I don't remember:
In the panel with Akbar's not useless tools, there's a fence on the far right side. Where the dead squid-head cultist is. Through a gap in the fence, we can see a guy in what looks like glasses and a trenchcoat, holding a knife, presumably having just killed the cultist. Who is that?

Questionmarktarius
06-01-2010, 08:27 PM
Yay!


Just "yay!"

Aldurin
06-01-2010, 08:30 PM
The big question is . . . how come the village at the end never catches on fire by arcane means?

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 08:35 PM
One more character that I don't remember:
In the panel with Akbar's not useless tools, there's a fence on the far right side. Where the dead squid-head cultist is. Through a gap in the fence, we can see a guy in what looks like glasses and a trenchcoat, holding a knife, presumably having just killed the cultist. Who is that?

Dr. Unne

Double
06-01-2010, 08:36 PM
I really like the epilogue; I've looked at it a few times already and am still catching things I missed. Just a moment ago I noticed the lawninja hanging out on the palace balcony, and it looks like that's Dr. Malpractice with his 'Prince Thief' pillow over there.
And that's not even the half of them!


I am really going to miss 8-Bit. So many laughs...

Thank you.




Edit: As for 'Garland', I like to think it's actually him, probably working as a waiter at a restaurant he owns to ensure maximum service. I notice that Sara seems to be giving the Garland an evil glare. He even has little surprise lines over his head, which I take to be recognition!

Hanuman
06-01-2010, 08:51 PM
Very calming, nicely done =]

Codemonkey85
06-01-2010, 08:53 PM
Well, overall I'd say this ending is a fine way to wrap the comic up. Matt's artistry is pretty neat too.

However, I'm a bit lost on how White Mage's whole "nothing good can come from this" line wound up being important. Also I'm a bit sad to see no closure to Dr. Swordopolis vs. the unnamed dark god, who were seemingly using Fighter and BM respectively as their earthly pawns for some grander battle.

This isn't altogether an epilogue of epic proportions like I was kind of expecting, but it's the end and I accept it. Not like I had much choice. :p

Thanks for the good times, Brian!

justice~!
06-01-2010, 09:01 PM
Is that a good idea? Moving on to FF2, but placing it in the same world and switching the leads to the 8Bit-Theatre cast?

You know, I am so satisfied with this ending that I actually don't want to see it continued in any way. I think I'd risk being disappointed with anything else. This ending was as close to perfect for me as I think it could've gotten.

justice~!
06-01-2010, 09:19 PM
Also I'm a bit sad to see no closure to Dr. Swordopolis vs. the unnamed dark god, who were seemingly using Fighter and BM respectively as their earthly pawns for some grander battle.


I think Brian explained this in another thread - Darko ditched BM after Sarda became the Nexus; what happened to Sarda is what Darko intended to happen to BM. Dr. Swordopolis intended Fighter to be the champion against Chaos but gave up on him eventually.

FizzKittyX17
06-01-2010, 09:41 PM
So, I was totally right about the epic-logue/other project! I feel proud.

Also, I liked it. Thanks, Brian/Matt/Jeff!

Guess it wouldn't be a fitting ending without somebody claiming that they predicted the whole thing on the forums, as usual!

I've been reading since 2001 (around when Fighter was trapped in his Armoire in the forest). I'm still laughing over the nachos tonight... excellent work Brian, Matt, and Jeff. I'm going to miss 8-bit.

DreamSage
06-01-2010, 09:47 PM
Just registered to say I loved this series. Love how it ended - seems like the perfect way to go.

Also, nice reference to Final Fantasy 7-10 on the job board (SOLDIER, Galbadia, Alexandrian princess, pilgrimage). :D

Aldurin
06-01-2010, 09:50 PM
Just registered to say I loved this series. Love how it ended - seems like the perfect way to go.

Also, nice reference to Final Fantasy 7-10 on the job board (SOLDIER, Galbadia, Alexandrian princess, pilgrimage). :D

I'd rather chew my own neck off.

Questionmarktarius
06-01-2010, 10:06 PM
The big question is . . . how come the village at the end never catches on fire by arcane means?Because the arcane magic of sitting down and doing nothing for several hours is surprising ineffective at causing mass destruction.








...unless beans and cabbage are involved.

Santos.
06-01-2010, 10:36 PM
Brian, this was an awesome ride, thanks for the laughs.

Also, I saw Law Ninja! Hopefully he remembers to FEED them this time.
And those boots. HA!

I quite like the fact Dragoon wasn't forgotten.

I hope we get to see the characters again in whatever means that tickle your fancy.

Good work, man.
Kudos.

tshadowdrag
06-01-2010, 10:43 PM
I'd like to see someone shovel with the gunblade or buster sword.

Anyone else notice red mage breaking the forth wall in the panels for the close ups on White Mage and Dragoon? The style is really fitting for 8 bit theater and if there's one thing that should be attempted if ever, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the other 1224 comics done in Matt's style.

MSperoni
06-01-2010, 10:47 PM
"the other 1224 comics.."

bluuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh *explode*

Monster_user
06-01-2010, 11:06 PM
"the other 1224 comics.."

bluuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh *explode*

YOU CAN DO IT! :D

Actually, that is the perfect end to 8-bit theatre. Suffering, and head exploding in real life. :D

tshadowdrag
06-01-2010, 11:09 PM
YOU CAN DO IT! :D

Actually, that is the perfect end to 8-bit theatre. Suffering, and head exploding in real life. :D

The euphoria is too great, sorry it came to that for Matt though. There's a little bit of him everywhere, just like Black Belt :D

TDK
06-01-2010, 11:14 PM
Worth the wait. Wasn't expecting it to be non-sprited! <3

stapler942
06-01-2010, 11:45 PM
Thank you, Brian/Matt/Jeff.

So much going on in these panels, it's quite awesome.

Remind me again, what are the names on Fighter's sword-chucks? "Stabby" and "-la-"?

Fantabulate
06-01-2010, 11:47 PM
Thank you, guys!

I've enjoyed the comic massively over the years. I must say, you ended it very well. Congratulations!

PsychicKid
06-02-2010, 12:01 AM
Great job. It was a rather calming read and it wrapped everything up nicely. So many neat little touches that you see each time you read it too. (Law ninja!)

I've been with 8bit theater since I honestly can't remember. Episode 200something. Every 6-8 months I'd randomly chill out with a fresh bag of Doritos and spend an entire weekend reading it again. I recently re-read it shortly after episode 1224 was posted, and honestly, it seemed a lot quicker to read through (I guess because I knew when it ended and what all of the major plot points were).

Great comic. Thanks for all the laughs.

bmj
06-02-2010, 12:17 AM
Like a lot of other people I haven't logged in in a while, but I had to stop by to say great job.

I've been reading this comic since virtually the beginning, halfway through high school. I've since graduated from college and moved out into the real world.

Though I feel like another part of my childhood just died, it was a great ride. Thanks for all the laughs.

meo
06-02-2010, 12:20 AM
I just clicked my 8-Bit Theater bookmark out of habit and gijrggfrigjrgj HOLY SHIT. That was.. a beautiful little surprise. Every last panel was beautiful and touching.

Zeku
06-02-2010, 12:43 AM
I figured the yellow guy in panel 1 is the 'dragoon' of 8-bit theater, so is that Kain in the inn? And if so, why is he appearing here?

I have to say, I'm depressed that there's no real resolution for black mage, but I guess that's what I was expecting. Am I wrong in assuming that he's the character that most people identify with? The fact that he is still bitter and miserable, in spite of having the most cheerful friend in the world, is somehow a very significant, and very sad. He is the only one who truly got nothing out of his experiences. No power, no glory, no satisfaction, no progress, no character development, no 'girl,' no respect or concern for others, nothing.

Dandy Mick
06-02-2010, 01:09 AM
Anyone else find it amusing how Black Mage is perhaps an author avatar regarding certain feelings toward Final Fantasies VII and up? VII is lame, VIII somehow even lamer, IX sounds interesting, X... speaks for itself, XI is a snorefest and everything after that isn't worth the effort.

Indecisive_Mimic
06-02-2010, 01:13 AM
Remind me again, what are the names on Fighter's sword-chucks? "Stabby" and "-la-"?
"Stabby" and "Slashy" ^^

I figured the yellow guy in panel 1 is the 'dragoon' of 8-bit theater, so is that Kain in the inn? And if so, why is he appearing here?
Dragoon is the guy in blue sitting with RM, the yellow guy is the guard who's been chasing that poor messenger for most of the comic.

Art of Hilt
06-02-2010, 01:42 AM
Yes yes yes yes yes, this is how this comic was meant to end!
I, I think I want to read the whole thing again now.
Also ha ha, the viziers all want to be elf king a la place du elf king.

Seriously though this is like, perfect. I completely want to hug everyone involved. I want to make this uncomfortable for everyone, because you all didn't have to do it and you didn't have to do it like this but you did and now the comic has closure and just, thanks.

Amake
06-02-2010, 01:46 AM
Congrats on the best ending of anything since Scrubs. I could almost hear nostalgic music in the background. . .maybe "Everyday"?

I guess there's nothing more to be said now. The story's all done. Such sweet misery.

Time to look into buying comic books from the US. :)

Briar
06-02-2010, 02:06 AM
FANTASTIC! I agree, the perfect ending.

Also, you've just established Red Mage and Black Mage, two characters I already had the hots for, as being epically hot (emaciated, man! I LOVE EMACIATED). Yeeeess.

theAntiELVIS
06-02-2010, 03:13 AM
And now it is part of history - not a large part, y'know, it's like one of those things they put into a book when they don't want to spend a lot of time on it - oh, damn, what is that called, that thing at the bottom of the page that basically says "this thing happened but isn't important enough to clog-up the main narrative here", umm, uh, jeez - an ankle message? a knee letter? OH - a FOOTNOTE! Yeah , that's it. It is a footnote for the generations and ages that follow - as long as someone actually looks down there when they come across the asterisk or dagger symbol, or little number if there's a bunch of them on that page.

Deborah
06-02-2010, 03:17 AM
Awesome epilogue! I love all the little touches, especially the FF7-11 job board, and the restaurant menu for some reason. I feel compelled to actually make up a recipe for Goblin Punch now. Oh, and the elven court being viziers all the way down. Also, thanks to the poster who first mentioned the 12 dragon nacho joke. I got it, but only once it was pointed out that it WAS a joke...

But my absolute favorite part of course, was Red Mage continuing to excel at oblivious accidental innuendo.

Spekkio
06-02-2010, 04:10 AM
I have just received remuneration for six years of backhanded "Fuck you" -- hilarious backhanded "Fuck you," but backhanded "Fuck You," all the same.

My verdict?

I loved it.

I feel at peace with this comic, now. It's an awesome memory that was worth every moment I spent reading it, and every even longer moment I spent anticipating a late update. I was damn near sweating blood a few times there towards the end, but seeing that everyone actually ended up okay, despite my own dire predictions to the contrary, just puts a smile on my face.

Brian Clevinger actually has a soul. Who'd have been fool enough to think?

ibm2431
06-02-2010, 04:54 AM
I stumbled across 8-Bit during the early Survivor comics. Doing so started a long chain of events beginning from sprite comics becoming an almost-sole hobby, to me starting/running a website for sprite comic backgrounds, with side-trips into ROM-hacking and technical writing. Today, I'm a decently-well-off software engineer and web developer. And it's all your fault, Brian Clevinger. :)

There are many things I could say about 8-Bit Theater that would be true: "it holds a special significance in my life", "it was the only constant thing in my life over the years", "it'll forever be one of my most vivid memories", etc. Many people in the sprite comic hobby have the likes of Bob and George and That's My Sonic as their first hook, but for me, it was 8-Bit, the best of them all, over eight years ago.

The time spent reading 8BT, checking the site for news updates, and waiting for the next issue was time well spent. Given a chance to do it all again, the only thing I would change is not becoming a member of the forums prior to posting a sappy "thank you" message at the end. While this note is just one of many, know that it's filled with profound gratitude for the effort you've put into making the series.

Thanks for nine years of memories, Brian. They were all great.

Mondt
06-02-2010, 05:28 AM
So FF12 and 13 are a waste?

Was that the punchline?

xenogears96720
06-02-2010, 05:39 AM
And now I'm going to wax. Not exactly philosophically, but nostalgically.

I turned seventeen yesterday. On the same day, I read the Epiclogue. Then I had one of those introspective "remembering better days" montage-orgasms. Seriously, I swear there was acoustic guitar playing, and this time it was not from my hippie housemate.

When this comic started, I was still seven. I read it for the first time when I was nine. My brother and sister, both way older than me, read it and I saw a little bit of it. We didn't have a whole lot of money, but my brother loved video games. Most of the games I was familiar with were NES and SNES games, with some MAME arcade emulation. I loved the pixel styles, the blockiness of it, the way it could reduce a complicated character into a series of little blocks. I remember building Mario out of legos once or twice.

So needless to say, seeing 8-Bit Theater for the first time, I was enchanted.

I kept up with it for a few years. In that time, a lot of stuff happened. My sister left home, my parents fought more and more, and stuff was overall pretty intense. That's depressing and not the point here, so let me sum it up as "boo-freaking-hoo" and we'll move on.

In that same time, I turned to the internet and, well, general nerdery more and more. 8-Bit Theater shaped my internet habits, and they came to shape me. For starters, the links page introduced me to Bob and George back in, oh, say, 2004. Bob and George in turn introduced me to spriting, manga, Gaia Online, the concept of a "forum", roleplaying. Seeing comics like BnG and 8-Bit made me want to be an artist, and a writer. I kept coming back to Nuklear Power, reading all the side columns and extra comics that Brian made on the side. Sosa introduced me to DnD. I'm sure I sent him horrible, febreze-ridden vs. requests.

Somewhere around 2005, I fell out of contact with 8-Bit Theater. I had more limited computer time. I fell behind on the updates and didn't want to spend the time checking up on it. It took me a few more years before I checked back in. If I recall, Bob and George actually mentioned 8-Bit in one of their comics, and it reintroduced me, in a really cyclical way.

But I kept falling out. The past few years have been some of the hardest in my life, blah blah blah. Finally, one of my friends started reading it, independently of me. This was just a couple months ago. It brought me back. I pulled through the archives in one, very amusing night. I'd played Final Fantasy on a ROM at some point, and had a good perspective of where the comic was at, in terms of the overall progression of the game. I remember something Brian wrote way back, a couple of iterations of the site ago, when people were wondering how long the comic was going to go for. He said something like "It took me a hundred strips just to get past Garland. It's not ending any time soon."

Well, here we are.

I loved the conclusion. I loved the story. I'm glad I got to follow it through the last arc. Thanks Brian. It's been great growing up with 8-Bit Theater.

nyttyn
06-02-2010, 05:40 AM
So FF12 and 13 are a waste?

Was that the punchline?

The universe hates black mage.

The Manic Magician
06-02-2010, 06:47 AM
I'm sure this is becoming a bit of a broken record, but here I am, another member who never got around registering until the end of a good thing. The end of a great thing if you want to get technical about it. For every beginning there is an end, for what has once begun must come to its conclusion. I knew this day was coming, I both looked forward to it and dreaded it all at the same time. The end meant closure, knowledge of where the story was meant to wrap its final words. It's like reading an absolutely fantastic book; you rush through it, eating up every word and every detail, completely transfixed with the story, the characters and the writing. Your need for more cannot be gratified quick enough, no reading speed fast enough to sate the desire to know what lies on that next page.

But then, before you know the story has no more pages to give, you are forced to look down on the final page in the entire story, words closing the story forever more and with this bittersweet knowledge you look back on the path you have come and wish that it could have been longer. Could have been more. Now that the end is clear, you feel as though you have tread recklessly fast to the final paragraph in this beautiful story. I have had the absolute pleasure of reading dozens of books like this in my lifetime, but this is the first time I have ever read a webcomic and had that same feeling dwelling within my gut. I knew this day would come, the ending an inevitable of a wonderful story. Now that the end is undeniably come, I feel both content and saddened; fulfilled but panged.

I guess you can say I am in mourning, for a friend that used to be and now, shall be nothing more than memory.

I can go back and read it all again; undoubtedly I will. The jokes will make me laugh, the irony that is hidden beneath every plot will make me smile. I will find myself rooting for the light heroes, no matter how terrible their deeds. I will cheer for the triumphs, laugh at their follies, smile knowingly when their deeds' earnings come back down on them again and boo when they are truly put through unjust conflict. I will continue to pass the story along to others and speak of this webcomic like any book I cherish. Much of the story has become a part of me, just like other epic tales that I have so loyally followed. Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays held meaning for me, and now once more they simply be what they were before- days of the week, that come and go unnoticed but for other rare few events worth noting.

I was not an original follower, I am sad to say. The story was over five years in when I first stumbled upon it, catching word of it from the Dead Ale Wives 8bit reenactment on Newgrounds and a couple other references following. However, once exposed, I found myself reading hundreds of pages daily, around school and work, enjoying the story that unfolded and epic tale that will be forever remembered.

Someone mentioned that Black mage showed no change, I respectfully disagree, his interactions with fighter show a great deal of change. Much the same as the beginning, fighter goes on and on about adventure, and Black mage grumbles and argues. The scenario is the same, but is mannerisms have changed. The implied tone is less than evil, simply annoyed. No threats, no inner dialogues about destruction and death, just simple pessimism. The whole of his person cannot shift, but at the core, he seems to have come to terms with a lot about himself. The only character left completely unchanged appeared to be fighter, albeit his Sword chucks.

Thank you for all the years, Brian. Your effort never went unnoticed or unappreciated by myself or others I have turned into followers.

Sorry for the long post, but I guess I have some years to make up for.


PS: Should all the pages be redrawn, would an 8bit book collection be more feasible? I know I would purchase one, no matter the cost, if one were ever to become available.

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 07:07 AM
... no matter the cost...

I can't help but read this as if Optimus Prime were saying it.

Geminex
06-02-2010, 07:12 AM
Having 8-bit theatre redrawn by Matt Speroni is the right of all sentient beings!

Edit:
And am I the only one thinking that some of the Speroni art totally needs to be amongst the selection of art on the top left hand side?

Greenjolt
06-02-2010, 07:28 AM
just the way the characters would wind up after the chaos insident....or at least the way it should be. none of them have changed lol just perfect. the art was amazing brian. fighter's and BM's ending, i cant think of any other way they should have wound up. lol back to the armor of invincibility it would seem. if only BM had agreed to the soldier recruitment thing, he wouldve been like cloud, only more evil and powerfull...well not physically powerfull i guess.

thanks brian, may God bless your future

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 07:57 AM
And am I the only one thinking that some of the Speroni art totally needs to be amongst the selection of art on the top left hand side?

There's a pic of Wong that sometimes pops up, but I think a White Mage pic taken from the Epiclogue and plopped up there would be cute :)


I wonder, if (big if) I were to do another hand-drawn page of 8-bit what the best page for it would be?

Meister
06-02-2010, 08:09 AM
One of those from the time where Black Mage was in full Evil Energies mode and started team killing. Started team killing more effectively than usual, that is. Or something from the class change arc, Red Mage mimicking a Hadoken. Might as well go all out is what I'm saying.

Geminex
06-02-2010, 08:16 AM
Yeah, I was thinking a white-mage. Though there's close-ups of every light warrior in the epilogue, we could do all of them. WM from panel 3 or 19 (where she's talking about finding thief). RM from panel 10, where he has his fingers steepled, and they're talking about why he doesn't hate WM. Thief from panel 23, that's really the only close-up we have of him. Fighter and BM from panels 31 and 32, respectively. Both, because their expression totally match their character there.
And by "we" I mean "somebody else".

I wonder, if (big if) I were to do another hand-drawn page of 8-bit what the best page for it would be?
I have no idea. Maybe the ones were BM goes all epic-evil and kills the fiends? We'd get a view of super-powered black mage, the light warrior, and the fiends. And the dark warriors too? I'm not sure.
But anyway, that's just off the top of my head. There's gotta be a few people who're re-reading the comics now that they've concluded. Perhapse they could make some suggestions.

No matter which page you choose, it'd be awesome. Obviously. Go Matt!

Edit: Ninja'd by Meister. Yeah, those parts. They'd work really well in non-sprite-based art. A lot of the other scenes might be cool, but might not really capture the... spirit? of the comic. I dunno. Does it have spirit? Does it have a soul?
Anyway, you get my point.

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 08:39 AM
I could post a poll with 1224 options :D

It'd be a hell of a poll!

KillBill
06-02-2010, 08:54 AM
I want to see all 1224 pages hand-drawn by tomorrow! Chop chop!

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 08:55 AM
Even in "How I Didn't Kill Your Master" style art that would be impossible!

Geminex
06-02-2010, 09:03 AM
One is fine. For now. But... Mr. Speroni? We are not being unreasonable in our demands. We expect your response to be... equally reasonable.
Do not disappoint us.

Seriously, how long would one take you? Just out of curiousity? Like, say... this one:
http://www.nuklearpower.com/2009/04/30/episode-1123-endgame/
That'd be my vote. How long would that actually take you?

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 09:29 AM
Hmm.. well that looks like it'd take approx three pages of hand-drawn art to work, and adding to that the Fiends and the effects it might take a week-ish. However one thing that made the epilogue pages take a long time was all the "stuff" I put in them. Since this episode wouldn't have a lot of background stuff aside from the setting, that might cut a lot of time down.

ibm2431
06-02-2010, 09:48 AM
Sometime during the process of drawing out the comics, you'd end up with enough "cels" that you could theoretically start copy-pasting them just like sprites. ;)

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 09:49 AM
I wish, it'd sure make all this faster :)

Arcon
06-02-2010, 10:01 AM
I wish, it'd sure make all this faster :)

Mister Speroni you officially became a web-comic artist :D
No doubt do to brian's corrupt...*ehem*INSpiring influence.
I salute you!

Edogaa
06-02-2010, 10:13 AM
Awww...the epilogue was sweet... XD

White Mage looked adorable too!

I mean the ending kind of ticked me off and filled me with some amusement...but this, this just filled me with some degree of joy! D:


Brian, you may still be a jackass D:

But you're a sweet jackass :)

but you're still a jackass >:/

XD...

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 11:18 AM
Mister Speroni you officially became a web-comic artist :D
No doubt do to brian's corrupt...*ehem*INSpiring influence.
I salute you!



*robot stare * Yes, The Brian is an inspiration to us all, The Brian is superior, The Brian is watching us *robot stare*

stapler942
06-02-2010, 12:53 PM
The only main character conspicuously absent from the epilogue that I can think of is Onion Sarda. Though I guess...The entire comic is his epilogue. I'm assuming the council of White Mages has either forgotten about him, or is ignoring him while he goes to Mage school so that destiny can run its course. Still, I wonder what a hand-drawn version of either Onion Kid or old Sarda would look like.

Also...Dare I ask what's the surprise in Imp Surprise?

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 12:58 PM
hmm.. it's purple, sooo, maybe there's behemoth in it?

meo
06-02-2010, 01:04 PM
I wonder, if (big if) I were to do another hand-drawn page of 8-bit what the best page for it would be?

Not any page of the comic, but a page showcasing all the main characters in the comic squeezed inside one giant panel. The four fiends, the light warriors, the dark warriors, the other warriors, maybe King Steve / Princess Sara somewhere. Dragoon of course diving down from the ceiling with his spear aimed at Muffin. Or Black mage.

Magic_Marker
06-02-2010, 01:08 PM
Next batch of 8bit T-shirts should by drawn by Speroni, that's all I'm sayin'.

As far as recreating 8bit scenes. I would go for Iconic moments in 8bit history: The First Comic, The Class Change, The final vote for Redmage and anything else that changed the plot of the comic in a major way.

But that's if you want to commit to such a project.

Donomni
06-02-2010, 01:32 PM
So FF12 and 13 are a waste?

Was that the punchline?

No, just that Brian hasn't played them. I'm pretty certain FF 11 was his last Final Fantasy game.

Green Spanner
06-02-2010, 01:33 PM
Also...Dare I ask what's the surprise in Imp Surprise?

It's a surprise!

[/obvious response]

Great Cartoonist
06-02-2010, 01:52 PM
Now I've got this craving for additional gag strips of 8-Bit Theater featuring Speroni's art.

Alternatively, a remake of the original strip in Speroni's art style.

randomhuman
06-02-2010, 01:54 PM
Not any page of the comic, but a page showcasing all the main characters in the comic squeezed inside one giant panel. The four fiends, the light warriors, the dark warriors, the other warriors, maybe King Steve / Princess Sara somewhere. Dragoon of course diving down from the ceiling with his spear aimed at Muffin. Or Black mage.

I agree

Nuklear Waste
06-02-2010, 01:59 PM
Do my favorite episode!!! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2004/07/22/episode-443-whats-ur-sine/) There's not even much going on it! But actually, I'd go with meo's idea, but with one or two dead Black Belts thrown in there somewhere.

Also, I can't believe this discussion went on with no mention that Black Mage/Fighter and Red Mage/Dragoon were made canon over more popular pairings.

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 02:02 PM
I actually thought of like a HUGE pic w/ everyone in it but I figured it would take me forever plus a day times infinity.

So.. I think maybe the Light Warriors for now, and maybe one day adding to it.. I'm not gonna post any promises about a release date for such a pic, but I WOULD like to make one.

As for more comics in my style.. well, I'll think about it. It might be fun but I'd really have to have some free time unless they were commissions. If they're commissions I'll draw just about anything :)

MQuinny1234
06-02-2010, 02:06 PM
Been reading this for about half a year now, loved it all, pure gold comedy.

Violent, stupid, twisted, sneaky, disgusting and confusing. I'll miss it.

The light warriors, the dark warriors, the other warriors, Sarda, White mage, Black belt and all the others were just brilliant.

Thank's Brian for the great comic.

Green Spanner
06-02-2010, 02:08 PM
I actually thought of like a HUGE pic w/ everyone in it but I figured it would take me forever plus a day times infinity.

You could collaborate with Scott, Zack and whichever other artists Brian has chained in his basement.

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 02:11 PM
I WORK SOLO

like that one guy.

Magic_Marker
06-02-2010, 02:13 PM
Han?

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 02:14 PM
yeah, Han "I can't live without my walking furball sidekick" Solo

NOPE! that OTHER guy

meo
06-02-2010, 02:19 PM
You could do fanart of Richard and Black Mage, sweaty bodies intwined in their moment of passion.

I envision Black Mage as a power bottom, hope this helps.

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope
06-02-2010, 02:21 PM
As for more comics in my style.. well, I'll think about it. It might be fun but I'd really have to have some free time unless they were commissions. If they're commissions I'll draw just about anything :)

You heard him people, choose a comic and get 200 bucks ready!

Meister
06-02-2010, 02:25 PM
For everyone who would buy an 8BT book "at any price" we're looking at roughly quarter of a million dollars for Matt to draw all 1224 episodes. (A bit less actually, but let's say the difference covers printing.)

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 02:26 PM
Sounds good to me!

meo
06-02-2010, 02:27 PM
If you just have him skip all the filler it's more like 6 or 7 pages.

Magic_Marker
06-02-2010, 02:27 PM
As for more comics in my style.. well, I'll think about it. It might be fun but I'd really have to have some free time unless they were commissions. If they're commissions I'll draw just about anything :)

If they're commissions I'll draw just about anything :)


I'll draw just about anything :)

This can only end well.

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 02:28 PM
"just about"

Kim
06-02-2010, 02:30 PM
Would you draw Captain Planet fighting the oil spill in the gulf? WOULD YOU???

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 02:31 PM
Will I get paid in real money or sparkles in the smiling bright eyes of children?

Kim
06-02-2010, 02:33 PM
Neither. You will be paid in Monopoly money.

Odjn
06-02-2010, 02:34 PM
Or blowjobs from NonCon.

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 02:37 PM
I no longer take monopoly money, smiling children's faces, or blowjobs as means of payment (with some exceptions).

Magic_Marker
06-02-2010, 02:38 PM
Or blowjobs from NonCon.

When the american currency prices keep going down what are you going to do? Hi, I'm Glen Beck, and advise you buy NonCon blowjobs. Unlike cash, NonCon blowjobs are a finite resource. In fact, during the recession the price of a NonCon blowjob went up 300%! Don't stop there, lobby congress to put us back on the NCBJ standard!

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 02:44 PM
I'm not investing in NCBJs, I'm skeptical about the stability in such fads. I'm investing in reliable and clean products like oil.

Kim
06-02-2010, 02:48 PM
Did you know that one NCBJ is worth more than a gallon of gasoline? Even better, NCBJs don't pollute the environment and have a lower overhead cost, unlike gasoline.

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 02:56 PM
What's the maturity period on a NCBJ bond? Does it come with any lower overhead double entendre bonuses?

AAAAaaand the thread spirals into perverted sarcasm... Typical of the GPD crowd...

Rejected Again
06-02-2010, 03:04 PM
AAAAaaand the thread spirals into perverted sarcasm... Typical of the GPD crowd...

Hey this one took 170 posts longer than normal to happen.

On Topic: Thanks for all the hard work Brian. Its been a hell of a ride.

Xshu
06-02-2010, 03:28 PM
For everyone who would buy an 8BT book "at any price" we're looking at roughly quarter of a million dollars for Matt to draw all 1224 episodes. (A bit less actually, but let's say the difference covers printing.)
You know, that sounds like a lot of money, but even if he managed to keep the same schedule as Brian he would only be making $27,200 a year for nine years. Then he would be typecast.

...Probably still more money than Brian made off of it.

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 03:33 PM
ew..yeah that's not good. I want more than 200$ a page!

That or 200$ a page only gets it drawn, no colors.

I'd be typecast AND pushing 40... ..... .... :(

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope
06-02-2010, 03:44 PM
ew..yeah that's not good. I want more than 200$ a page!

That or 200$ a page only gets it drawn, no colors.

I'd be typecast AND pushing 40... ..... .... :(

Yeah so. We get our 8-Bit theatre again. And that is what is important

Axass
06-02-2010, 03:55 PM
Thanks for all these years of 8-Bit Theater, I'll miss it.

PyrosNine
06-02-2010, 05:51 PM
Ended just as I imagined it would've, with the exception of Red Mage and Dragoon.

Heh. Sects Buddies.

Maybe they'll start their own sect, the Red Dragoons.

Odjn
06-02-2010, 05:51 PM
Did you know that one NCBJ is worth more than a gallon of gasoline? Even better, NCBJs don't pollute the environment and have a lower overhead cost, unlike gasoline.

So what you're proclaiming is that you are the proverbial provider of five dollar blowjobs.

Kim
06-02-2010, 05:56 PM
Right... Proverbial...

FizzKittyX17
06-02-2010, 06:45 PM
After reading the comic yet again, something I have always wondered about Red Mage has finally been revealed: he is, in fact, *NOT* gay!

I didn't catch the "Rat Tail Soup" joke until the fifth reading. He absolutely forbids Dragoon from eating it, telling him to order something else. Guess he didn't want to deal with the repercussions....

Flamefury
06-02-2010, 07:06 PM
That...was...

Fitting.

In all honesty, I couldn't be happier. Indeed, the humour was light for the most part, but this felt like an honest to God conclusion.

I am settled by this, and that makes me feel good.


Perhaps it's just because I'm happy you didn't end it with that other screen. But thank you for a wonderful comic, Mr. Clevinger.

The Sevenshot Kid
06-02-2010, 07:57 PM
This worked.

I'd like to thank Mr. Clevinger for doing this for us annoying fans all this year. I put him right up there with the likes of Vonnegut and Fitzgerald on my all time favorite authors. He's been a continual inspiration and has provided many good laughs. Thank you very much Mr. Clevinger, I'll continue to read your work.

And to Mr. Speroni, wow. You're art is amazing. You've given these characters faces that are now the first thing that come to my mind when reading them. You are a very talented person and I am now looking all over the internet for more of your work.

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 08:55 PM
And to Mr. Speroni, wow. You're art is amazing. You've given these characters faces that are now the first thing that come to my mind when reading them. You are a very talented person and I am now looking all over the internet for more of your work.

Thanks :) you don't have to look far, nearly all of it is on this site :P

that and my DA account:

http://exmile.deviantart.com/

Solid Snake
06-02-2010, 09:10 PM
I'm surprised you didn't let Brian market ChieSnowfall on the main page of NPF along with the others -- it's by far my favorite of your works, with the notable exception of one of my Commissions. (Hint = Avatar.) =)

Saphire
06-02-2010, 09:14 PM
What I still don't get is the dark god thing guy who spoke to blm in his dreams. What was that about? It didn't really go anywhere, and blm never really got many blue magic spells.

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 09:14 PM
I'm not as keen on the Chie one as those others actually, besides it's kind of an "old way" of CGing for me and so I didn't think it was as representative of the style I'm at now.. My favorites are Fang Lin wallpaper, then Doji and then FRANNY.. I WOULD have her up there but noooooo.... you just gotta have her all to yourself!

ED: Hurry up and post again Snake! You'll be at 2000 posts!!

FizzKittyX17
06-02-2010, 09:21 PM
Or post twice and you'll be... over 2000!!!

MSperoni
06-02-2010, 09:51 PM
Exactly 2000 is more cooler than 2001

Red King
06-02-2010, 10:39 PM
Hey now. If he is considering drawing something, it should be something all out.

He should draw a scene from CoM,CoL.

Neni
06-03-2010, 04:27 AM
AWESOME! More awesome than my keenest imaginations!! I would have never thought, that it would... as awesome as this!!!

White Mage is drawn wonderfully, how everything was warped up was perfect and and the countless references to other Final Fantasy game made the fangirl inside me Squee!

Especially when they find out that the FFIX spot has already been taken by a (monkey) warrior and a (philosophic) black mage! XD


And the last sentence... OMG, it's a cricle!! An endless circle!!

You know what? You should set a "Back to first button" on this page, where the "Next" button was on every other one. This would turn this comic into an archive-binge curse which YOU CAN'T ESCAPE! MUHAHAHAH!


Thank you, Brian! Thank you Matt! You are my Webcomic heroes! ^^

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 04:29 AM
Yet another person who failed to set an account on these forums before the end.
I am absolutely delighted with the ending. It closed all questions about the future of most characters (for whom the almost destruction of the universe didn't have an effect, it seems).
It has been a long series. 1225comics (not including filler) and overall, I have mixed emotions.
Firstly, it has been brilliant, a great series of laughs and to follow the parabole of many people out there, it has effected my life. I wasn't depressed or some such, just cynical. I still am but well, how I deal with the world has changed simply from the antics of four destructive adventurers...and several morons, and some geniuses. The comic has provided so much amusement over the time it has run, and provided such capability of being a long, comedic series without descending into not being very funny, as many sketch shows do (just to use a comedic genre, I'm not calling 8-bit a sketch show). The epilogue perfectly closed loose ends, as I said, but it also honoured the style, providing the same brands of humour and strangeness. Along with jokes that weren't possible with sprites.
On the other hand, I'm very sad to see it end, but it must. Like preserving an old dog's life, you want to, you want as much time as possible with your old friend but it's cruel to keep it alive and it needs to end. However, like many great things, I'm sure fans will produce various fanfics or other such items, and some may attain to the high (actually, I'm not sure whether 8bit was high brow) standards I've come to find. Those will amuse me.
Still - if anyone wants to necro this series, go animate every comic past 36 (since up to that point has been put into amimated episodes). There, I've just filled your life for a few years. In fact, if you want to really go the full mile, animate in speroni-style. Go on, I dare you, surpass your master and comedian.

Coimeadai
06-03-2010, 06:19 AM
I'll admit I did cry a bit (manly tears) when I read it. Hard to believe it's really over.
All I can say is thank you Brian, Matt, Jeff and everyone even remotely involved!
This comic is as much a part of me as it is of you and anyone else who posted in this thread, I wish you all the very best in whatever future endeavours you may undertake.

Also, am I the only one who noticed the cat coffee poster (episode 133) in the fourth panel? And who are the two individuals sitting below it?

Regards.

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 06:27 AM
I'll admit I did cry a bit (manly tears) when I read it.You'd have a heart of stone not to. ;)
Worst part is I must have read it 25times now and I still can't stop re-reading it. It feels like a funeral, except no one is giving out free food.
Edit: It's claimed Fighter didn't change while the other characters did...Fighter has clearly changed, he can read for a start.

Nezz
06-03-2010, 07:33 AM
Well I'm glad that leaving behind the half dozen plots left unfinished is official, I was starting to worry that I might have to care again all of a sudden. Lord knows how quickly my opinion is going to be ignored once I say anything negative about anything Brian does ever, but hey.

The art was good save for the fact that everyone felt the need to have the same stupid grin on their face at all times, jokes even KIND of resembling 8-Bit are nonexistent right up until BM entered the picture (the only one who couldn't do the whole "close your eyes and smile like a buffoon" thing, coincidence?), characterization for RM and even WM sort of vanished into thin air and instead of showing any of the after-math of any of the dozens of interesting sub-plots we got to see RM doing something pointless, BM and Fighter being together because... well because, and Thief being the most boring Elven king ever. That and the whole "Let us kill all the plot threads that have been hinted from the start of this thing at the very last moment" thing I mentioned.

Oh well, at least MSPA is still good.

Meister
06-03-2010, 07:39 AM
I don't think I can think of a plot thread that hasn't been resolved in some way. Which ones do you mean?

Nezz
06-03-2010, 07:41 AM
All the gods and avatars and their respective shenanigans and the Enlightened Warrior prophecy.

Thoma
06-03-2010, 07:42 AM
Well I assume that's the ending of 8-Bit. I really loved the ride and been reading ever since I was a lil' kiddo about 5 years ago. 'I like swords' turned into my own catchphrases and infact every game I play I am all about the swords (in L4D2 I shoot fuckers who steal my katana.) Thank you for the most fun webcomic I have ever read and will now say my goodbye.
Warbot appears to inregular and HKYM I just couldn't get into it.
You might not really have gotten to know me, but that's because I am one of those silent watchers. Farewell Nuklearpower it was a long fun ride <3

Meister
06-03-2010, 07:58 AM
All the gods and avatars and their respective shenanigans and the Enlightened Warrior prophecy.
The Dark God's plan was to get Black Mage to overload himself with magic energy to become a portal for Chaos, Dr. Swordopolis' plan was to have Fighter kill Black Mage before that could happen. But neither one worked because Black Mage and Fighter are morons, so Sarda ended up being the one. You could certainly say all that could have been made clearer in the comic, but then again someone got it and Brian just confirmed it, so there's that.

The Trickster God just did what Trickster Gods do, try to outwit people, but failed because Thief is too crafty. That's all. Megahedron may have been an actual deity or a hallucination. That was the entire point of his appearances.

Enlightened Warrior prophecy, fair enough. I can only guess it's part of the whole Swordopolis plan or something. Regardless though: how much could an epilogue possibly have explained, or how? Best I can think of is something like one of those after-the-credits scenes they love so much in mainstream movie production, and 8BT strikes me as the wrong place to look for that sort of thing.

Nezz
06-03-2010, 08:03 AM
I could have sworn at some point the Trickster God and Darko where shown to be in cahoots, but god knows I am far too lazy to ever look that up, so I'll simply concede the Gods and Avatars bit. As for the Enlightened Warrior thing, there are a lot of ways to destroy the world in just 8 panels, let alone a whole epilouge.

Neni
06-03-2010, 08:04 AM
there are a lot of ways to destroy the world in just 8 panels, let alone a whole epilouge.

"Destroying the world in an absurdly short time-span" got old after the fifth time it was implied.

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 08:06 AM
The Dark God's plan was to get Black Mage to overload himself with magic energy to become a portal for Chaos, Dr. Swordopolis' plan was to have Fighter kill Black Mage before that could happen.Well, that's an interesting plot I never actually noticed the background to. Makes a lot of sense, however. Although it probably was addressed, what happened to the Mindflayer/C'thulu cult?
"Destroying the world in an absurdly short time-span" got old after the fifth time it was implied. The failure to do so however, that horse stayed alive for years.

Neni
06-03-2010, 08:07 AM
Well, that's an interesting plot I never actually noticed the background to. Makes a lot of sense, however. Although it probably was addressed, what happened to the Mindflayer/C'thulu cult?

A member of them was seen in the background of the Epilogue, apparently dead.

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 08:08 AM
A member of them was seen in the background of the Epilogue, apparently dead. Doesn't really explain the whole lot of them. Then again, the idea they all successfully killed themselves summoning another poorly named God sounds a likely/satisfactory plot line. :ohdear:

Green Spanner
06-03-2010, 08:11 AM
Doesn't really explain the whole lot of them. Then again, the idea they all successfully killed themselves summoning another poorly named God sounds a likely/satisfactory plot line. :ohdear:

Weren't they slaughtered?

Twice?

Meister
06-03-2010, 08:11 AM
I never noticed it either. Didn't pay much attention, though. I'm actually curious now what exactly was ever said about the enlightened warrior prophecy; I remember it was mentioned at least during the class change and Sky Castle arcs, but not exactly what.

Pretty sure the cultists all died during the Sea Shrine arc, with the exception of the one in the epilogue, who was killed by Dr. Unne, who I can only assume has gone from linguist to calamari merchant (possibly working with Akbar, all things considered).

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 08:17 AM
Weren't they slaughtered?

Twice?They survived once. Cults are annoying like that. Although it is a fair point, they have been slaughtered a few times.

FizzKittyX17
06-03-2010, 08:36 AM
Exactly 2000 is more cooler than 2001

I was thinking of a particular meme when I said "over 2000!!!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik

Magic_Marker
06-03-2010, 08:39 AM
I...I'm pretty sure he knows the meme.

Just sayin'. :-/

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 08:41 AM
I...I'm pretty sure he knows the meme.

Just sayin'. :-/Nope, Speroni is obviously a hermit, living in a cave somewhere producing awesome art. Somehow, he has a computer in this cave, the logistics are beyond me. :rolleyes:

MSperoni
06-03-2010, 08:58 AM
It's possible!

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 09:15 AM
It's possible!It's getting awfully tempting to set-up a cave/lair/thing...but I don't want to make a bear homeless.

Neni
06-03-2010, 09:36 AM
Nope, Speroni is obviously a hermit, living in a cave somewhere producing awesome art. Somehow, he has a computer in this cave, the logistics are beyond me. :rolleyes:


Wasn't there a Donald Duck Comic about this one...?:raise:

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 09:47 AM
Wasn't there a Donald Duck Comic about this one...?:raise:I don't think Disney recognise Speroni that much. :sweatdrop

Red King
06-03-2010, 10:42 AM
I never noticed it either. Didn't pay much attention, though. I'm actually curious now what exactly was ever said about the enlightened warrior prophecy; I remember it was mentioned at least during the class change and Sky Castle arcs, but not exactly what.

Pretty sure the cultists all died during the Sea Shrine arc, with the exception of the one in the epilogue, who was killed by Dr. Unne, who I can only assume has gone from linguist to calamari merchant (possibly working with Akbar, all things considered).

What I remember is Bahamut asking Fighter if he was the Enlightened Warrior, and that's about it.


Then once Bahamut was mentioned to Muffin, he replied something along the lines of "Bahamut was never a threat, he'll slumber until the Enlightened Warrior awakes him to usher in the end of days" or something such. then RM freaks out and goes to tell the rest they did something terrible.

Edogaa
06-03-2010, 10:48 AM
What I remember is Bahamut asking Fighter if he was the Enlightened Warrior, and that's about it.


Then once Bahamut was mentioned to Muffin, he replied something along the lines of "Bahamut was never a threat, he'll slumber until the Enlightened Warrior awakes him to usher in the end of days" or something such. then RM freaks out and goes to tell the rest they did something terrible.



I always thought since Bahamut was the reason for everyones class change that since the closer their Adventure came to an end and Chaos is born since Black Mage is the nexus or whatever and was supposed to be what brings chaos into this world bahamuts awakening since he is the one who is supposed to unlock these enlightened warriors power is one of the signs that the world is close to its doom...what with chaos and all


Man sarda is evil XD Taking away fighters class change XD

Red Mage just took it as Bahamut is the one that will bring destruction! D: I think...so he ran away panicking XD

justice~!
06-03-2010, 10:51 AM
Enlightened Warrior prophecy, fair enough. I can only guess it's part of the whole Swordopolis plan or something. Regardless though: how much could an epilogue possibly have explained, or how? Best I can think of is something like one of those after-the-credits scenes they love so much in mainstream movie production, and 8BT strikes me as the wrong place to look for that sort of thing.

The one thing I don't think I've ever gotten, now that I think about it was the Bahamut - Trickster God conversation where he said, "Do you think he'll see it coming?"

Other than that I don't know what else wasn't resolved.

Amake
06-03-2010, 10:58 AM
If Spider-man's writers can get away with forgetting he had a baby, I think I can live with some minor plots going unaddressed at the end. It's not like the comic will keep going year after year pretending some life-changing event never happened to the main character.

It's not as if logic or plot ever had priority over jokes anyway. Mmm, jokes. . .

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 11:03 AM
It's not as if logic or plot ever had priority over jokes anyway. Mmm, jokes. . . What is this "logic" you speak of?

Neni
06-03-2010, 11:08 AM
What is this "lgoic" you speak of?


I don't know about "lgoic", but if you mean "logic", this is when stuff makes sense.

Yes, hard to believe that something like this could be the case, I know.

Meister
06-03-2010, 11:11 AM
The one thing I don't think I've ever gotten, now that I think about it was the Bahamut - Trickster God conversation where he said, "Do you think he'll see it coming?"
I guess Trickster and Bahamut as divine beings know each other and Trickster, while he was in the area, just popped in to say hello and tell Bahamut about the hilarious one he pulled over on some fancypants elf just then. Always did expect more to come of that but it didn't, so it's got to be something along those lines.

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 11:13 AM
I don't know about "lgoic", but if you mean "logic", this is when stuff makes sense.

Yes, hard to believe that something like this could be the case, I know.Fixed, logic still sounds made up. Nothing makes sense. :ohdear:

Vecna814
06-03-2010, 12:51 PM
Guys, I made an account just to point this out because it blew my mind so hard.
http://www.nuklearpower.com/2001/03/20/episode-007-kamehameha-or-something/
"Four white mages? It'll never work."

http://www.nuklearpower.com/2010/03/09/episode-1223-make-the-truth/
FOUR.
WHITE.
MAGES.

I apologize is someone's done this already, I just....damn.

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 12:52 PM
Guys, I made an account just to point this out because it blew my mind so hard.
http://www.nuklearpower.com/2001/03/20/episode-007-kamehameha-or-something/
"Four white mages? It'll never work."

http://www.nuklearpower.com/2010/03/09/episode-1223-make-the-truth/
FOUR.
WHITE.
MAGES.

I apologize is someone's done this already, I just....damn.It has been pointed out, in fact, it was as the comic was posted.
Edit: Damn clever joke though.
Edit the second: http://www.nuklearpower.com/2010/02/20/episode-1221-longest-set-up-in-webcomic-history/ The joke is obivous. ;)

MSperoni
06-03-2010, 02:04 PM
This may have been brought up before in a thread but I dunno. .I was just thinking about it due to the discussion on the new "Final Fantasy Discussion Thread"

Let's say hypothetically Brian had a massive change of heart and decided to continue 8-bit only base it on another FF.. and I had a change of heart and/or got stupid enough to volunteer to draw the whole thing.. which FF would be the best one to do?

Another rule is that it can only have at most three characters from the original 8-bit (doesn't matter which three).

Rejected Again
06-03-2010, 02:10 PM
Fighter, Blackmage, King Steve, in FF-X2!

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope
06-03-2010, 02:13 PM
Fighter, Blackmage, King Steve, in FF-X2!

I reject your post!

Final Fantasy Tactics

Garland, Sarah, Fighter

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 02:14 PM
Let's say hypothetically Brian had a massive change of heart and decided to continue 8-bit only base it on another FF.. and I had a change of heart and/or got stupid enough to volunteer to draw the whole thing.. which FF would be the best one to do?Two would make most sense in continuity and apart from three, is the only place I can see FF1 sprites still fitting unless Matt, you voluteered your art. to wich it can all be adapted. Of coruse, I'm thinking in terms of DS/GBA-remakes' art styles

Another rule is that it can only have at most three characters from the original 8-bit (doesn't matter which three). I'm torn through a few characters: King Steve, BM, WM, Fighter and RM. BM and Fighter had excellent chemistry as a pairring. RM was just so brilliant as a member of the cast, and King Steve was...an abonimation of humour, for he was too funny for mortal eyes. It has reduced my lifespan laughing at him. WM howerver, bares the smae reasoning as BM and Fighter, chemistry of relations and since she was searching for Fighter and BM, continuity lies there. Forcing myself to 3, WM, BM and Fighter.

Edit: didn't consider FFT, that could work.

MSperoni
06-03-2010, 02:18 PM
Good ideas so far, i like the X-2 one (yummm pretty girls :D )


The reason I limited it to three characters and not four was I figured that would avoid the Light Warriors all getting back together and resulting in kind of the same story.

The three I'd pic as cast members would be Fighter, BM, and WM, but that's just me :)


Don't worry about whether or not it makes sense continuity wise or not :D And yeah, we're also going to pretend I'm going to draw it no matter which one you pick, even if you pick one I don't like nor have ever played (like FF9)

rpgdemon
06-03-2010, 02:22 PM
Why not break away from FF entirely, and make the theoretical new comic be based on an original IP?

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 02:23 PM
The three I'd pic as cast members would be Fighter, BM, and WM, but that's just me Highfive for same suggestions?

Also: Inb4 FF7. The story was nice overall but I actually hated Cloud's personality with a passion. However, it is anyone's choice, I won't intervene. :rolleyes:

Meister
06-03-2010, 02:26 PM
FF5, hands down. It's light on story and characterization but big on gameplay elements to make fun of. No returning cast members 'cause that's silly!

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 02:38 PM
No returning cast members 'cause that's silly!Returning cast can have two paths of effect, IMO:
1. Overshadows anyone you introduce, you're forced to develop them in new ways.
2. It is a stable part of your series, it's what helps act as the cement to your new bricks.
:raise:

MSperoni
06-03-2010, 02:46 PM
Why not break away from FF entirely, and make the theoretical new comic be based on an original IP?

Well that would probably be ideal if this weren't a pretend scenario. But I'm just curious what people think would be the best FF game and why.

Also we're pretending that Brian knows enough about any FF we pick to make a comic out of it...

There's a lot of pretending here.

I wonder which FF Brian would choose in this situation? I mean, like if all the stars aligned and finances and time weren't an issue. I think if it were me I'd pick FF6 because I'd really like to see Black Mage meet Kefka..


Also Fighter vs Cyan

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 02:55 PM
I wonder which FF Brian would choose in this situation? I mean, like if all the stars aligned and finances and time weren't an issue. I think if it were me I'd pick FF6 because I'd really like to see Black Mage meet Kefka..
Also Fighter vs Cyan By all that is holy, yes, yes, yes!

Amake
06-03-2010, 02:57 PM
White Mage, Terra and Celes pillow fight? I'm sold!

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 02:58 PM
White Mage, Terra and Celes pillow fight? I'm sold!Put your hands where I can see them...

Meister
06-03-2010, 03:00 PM
I guess Trickster and Bahamut as divine beings know each other and Trickster, while he was in the area, just popped in to say hello and tell Bahamut about the hilarious one he pulled over on some fancypants elf just then. Always did expect more to come of that but it didn't, so it's got to be something along those lines.
Or it is in fact a bona fide loose plot thread! (http://www.formspring.me/bclev/q/638371426) But I like my explanation.

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope
06-03-2010, 03:02 PM
White Mage, Terra and Celes pillow fight? I'm sold!

I approve this post!

I vote that this is Matt's new wallpaper to make =P

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 03:03 PM
Or it is in fact a bona fide loose plot thread! (http://www.formspring.me/bclev/q/638371426) But I like my explanation.We could always settle for Sarda made the plan not exist before it was made. Answer to everything.

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope
06-03-2010, 03:04 PM
We could always settle for Sarda made the plan not exist before it was made. Answer to everything.

So, a wizard undid it?

Terex4
06-03-2010, 03:08 PM
This may have been brought up before in a thread but I dunno. .I was just thinking about it due to the discussion on the new "Final Fantasy Discussion Thread"

Let's say hypothetically Brian had a massive change of heart and decided to continue 8-bit only base it on another FF.. and I had a change of heart and/or got stupid enough to volunteer to draw the whole thing.. which FF would be the best one to do?

Another rule is that it can only have at most three characters from the original 8-bit (doesn't matter which three).
Final Fantasy Tactics, Evil Princess Sara. You don't need the others.

On FF6:
Black Mage vs Relm
Red Mage vs Strago
White Mage meets Edgar prior to pillow fight.

ThatPoorMessenger
06-03-2010, 03:22 PM
So, a wizard undid it?Yes.

Also, anyone notcied how Thief isn't being suggested despite once being voted 2nd most popular 8bit character? :raise: