SO.. 8 Bit theater 2

[Reptileus]

SO... When's or will there be a 8 Bit theater 2... Should the original guys do it or some shady fans... any suggestions anyone?

[Satan's Onion]

First: moved to a more appropriate subforum.

Second: I'm not a licensed Clevingerologist, but I've kind of gotten the impression that Brian would rather move on to other projects--ones that involve original characters of his own devising and/or provide cash money which he can use to buy things.

[Magic_Marker]

Sprite comics no longer provide the monopoly monies. Brian will most likely be continuing the trend he set out of Atomic Robo/Warbot/HIKYM and produce orginial content so he isn't open to lawsuit with every update.

All things come to an end, there are support groups if you need them.

[Chocobo]

I think 8-bit theater's ending was absolutely perfect. No need for anyone to continue it.

[Meister]

If fans did it it would be awful and 3/4 of all punchlines would be "Fighter likes swords" or "Red Mage is a tranny" and all those terrible ideas that people suggested over the years would be in it so my suggestion is to stay far away from it and enjoy the 1225+ pages there are.

e: and also to abandon the notion that there has to be a sequel as a matter of course and that this must be talked about not an hour after a 9 year comic ends.

[Magic_Marker]

or some shady fans

We do not want this (http://nuklearpedia.com/doku.php?id=colors_of_magic_colors_of_love) to be canon, now do we?

[POS Industries]

We do not want this (http://nuklearpedia.com/doku.php?id=colors_of_magic_colors_of_love) to be canon, now do we?
As far as I'm concerned, that's the only thing that's canon.

[Eldezar]

There was this and people semmed to like it, but like all fan projects I ran out of time to work on this one. Still, there is about five pages you guys might enjoy for a little bit.

http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?p=954236#post954236

[Astrobot7000]

Absolutely not.
8bit was great. To make a sequel would ruin it, and plus, its pretty much played out. Brian also wants to move on, which I can appreciate.

Now, a contest of one-page fan comics based on 8bit would be fun.

[someboddy]

16 Bit Theater!

[ShadowScar Knight]

I don't think so.

To be honest, I'm satisfied that the comic itself is finally over. It already had loads of material, many clever punchlines and quick gags, and it has run for over one thousand and two hundred pages of free good ol' 8-bit entertainment. What more could you want?

Besides, as everyone else has said, with 8BT's completion, this gives Brian more time and space to work on his other stuff. I think 8BT has closed on a suitable and funny note, to the point it lends itself to looping all over again, which makes it seem 8BT could become its own sequel, over and over and over and over and over... and over... and over... and... over... ... again.

It's about as mind-numbingly repetitive as Garland's time loop in the actual game.

[Kim]

Obviously 8-Bit Theater 2 will be based on Metal Gear NES and Snake's Revenge. I mean, it's so obvious. Didn't you guys see all the hints he left?

[MSperoni]

I TOLD YOU TO KEEP THAT A SECRET NONCON!!!!!

[krogothwolf]

I thought it'd be based on Contra to be honest, now we're going to be stuck with a crapp espionage comic :(

[Kim]

Hey guys here's a special sneak preview of Metal Gear Theater! Don't tell Matt, okay?

http://i47.tinypic.com/24oyqee.png

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

I will read 8-Bit theatre if Clevinger keeps Bard in next time.

[krogothwolf]

The art style does fit, should be a good one!

[MSperoni]

At least you remembered to put the patch on Big Boss this time!

[MSperoni]

Here you go! Here's my masterpiece of Metal Gear Theater.

Warbot meets a crazy new coworker in Weyland Accounting.. WHO IS THAT GUY AND WHY DOES HE HATE WARBOT??


http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/154/7/a/Warbot_and_Solid_Snake_by_ExMile.jpg


Link to it on Deviant Art (http://exmile.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2r26t3)


ED: Sorry for the double-post :sweatdrop

[Bard The 5th LW]

I love it already. It must happen.

[Hanuman]

If fans did it it would be awful and 3/4 of all punchlines would be "Fighter likes swords" or "Red Mage is a tranny" and..
...dick jokes.

Depends if my awesoming department got a hold of an editorial position, then it would turn out a cross between dr. mcninja and dnd.

[krogothwolf]

Oh man Matt, make more! MORRRREEEEE!!!!

[Amake]

NonCon BJs?! No! It can't be!

Well, when Warbot inevitably gets himself a nuclear railgun and tries to destroy the world, Snake would be the one they send to take him out. But the question is, does he really want to die and take the cruel world with him, or does he just want to be loved?

Find out this fall in Colors of Steel, Colors of Love.

[Green Spanner]

Nice to know somebody is drawing Warbot.













Apart from Zack I mean.

[Edogaa]

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/154/7/a/Warbot_and_Solid_Snake_by_ExMile.jpg


Link to it on Deviant Art (http://exmile.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2r26t3)



Wow...that is the most hillarious thing I've seen this week. XD

[ThatPoorMessenger]

does he really want to die and take the cruel world with him, or does he just want to be loved? I think by now, all he wants are fingers...and/or perhaps a voice. But giving those would ruin the sadistic humour we derive from our favourite "washing machine".

[Carteeg_Struve]

Personally, I'm hoping for a prequel series: 1-bit theater.

[Neni]

Personally, I'm hoping for a prequel series: 1-bit theater.

So it would be the BSOD with Speech Bubbles?

...No wait, the BSOD has two colors, blue and white...

[MSperoni]

Maybe 1-Bit Theater would just be just a prose-novel.

ED: As opposed to those other kinds of novels that aren't prose..:raise:

[Neni]

Maybe 1-Bit Theater would just be just a prose-novel.

ED: As opposed to those other kinds of novels that aren't prose..:raise:

Well, I wouldn't call "Twilight" prose... No, wait, it's prose... the purple kind...

(Apology to all sane Twilight fans. There are just too many insane ones of your kind.)

[Carteeg_Struve]

(Apology to all sane Twilight fans. There are just too many insane ones of your kind.)

I'm sure both of them forgive you. ;)

[ThatPoorMessenger]

I'm sure both of them forgive you. ;)There are two? That's...an infinite % increase on last week.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I think he was referring to the sane and the insane. Or maybe not.
Some may argue that none of them are sane.

Twilight fans are the new emos, basically. Someone the whole kool kid gang of the internet can bash on without losing their nerd cred.
Nerds acting as jocks. Har Dee Fucking Har.

I'd like to elaborate but my headache derailed my train of thought.

[ThatPoorMessenger]

I'd like to elaborate but my headache derailed my train of thought. There's a lot of irony. I think that was the train's destination.

[Kim]

I had to put up with my training class for my tech support job being derailed so my trainer and half my fucking class (including the trainer) could talk about Twilight, or watch the Twilight trailers OMG, or talk about how they just saw the Twilight movie and it was SO GOOD YOU GUUUUUYYYYYYYZZZZZZZZZ. This happened every fucking day. After having to put up with that shit, I think I've earned my overwhelming disdain of Twilight fans.

[ThatPoorMessenger]

After having to put up with that shit, I think I've earned my overwhelming disdain of Twilight fans. I don't mind Twilight fans, but when they lower productivity...
:argh:

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I gotta admit, I got angry at my brother once because he watched some Twilight movie. I told him to watch something good instead. I have DVDs. But noooooo.
One Day I'm gonna get him drunk and make him watch the weirdest shit I can find.

[ThatPoorMessenger]

One Day I'm gonna get him drunk and make him watch the weirdest shit I can find. ...Well, the internet has your resources at the ready.

[Corrderio]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Brian say something about having plans for 8 bit after it was done?

[Carteeg_Struve]

I figured there might be two people out there who are not-insane and love Twilight, possibly believing the story to be a satire or parody or something. Remember, they just need to be sane... not smart. :D

The more I think about it, rather than doing a direct sequel to 8-bit, I think I'd rather see an original Final Fantasy-esk storyline that is an obvious spiritual successor. This way we get "more" while 8-bit is self-contained... ish, and there's a way for Brian, Matt, and crew to actually get money out of it.

Heck, they could possibly include many wink'n'nod character cross-overs. "No. This is NOT that character who is technically owned and copyright and trademarked by Square-Enix.... REALLY!...... *cough*"

After all, there's no overly greedy elven prince rogue type character in FFI. A homicidal spellcaster and a brain dead fighter? *pfft* Take a number. The Majere twins are ahead of you. A possibly transvestite mage with daddy-issues who believes himself to be the worlds greatest tactician...? Okay maybe that was a job-class in FFIII, BUT THE REST WORK!

[Neni]

To be honest, I think with a little tweaking, 8 bit theater would ACTUALLY work as a story for a real video game. Just tone down the characters' extremeness a little and replace jokes with drama and you got yourself the first Final Fantasy without a handsome, intelligent protagonist. (Since BM isn't handsome and Fighter isn't intelligent. The other's have less "screentime" and thus don't count.)

I actually can see a toned-down Red Mage as a good, yet slightly deluded, excentric strategist, for example.

White Mage would end up rather akin to Katara from Avatar: The last airbender. I especially point towards Katara going from an innocent Hope-freak to almost murdering a man near the series end.

Fighter would have his stupidity toned down, while BM probably would have more of those rare "Maybe I should try the other side" moments he had sometimes.

I don't know if the result would be a particularly good game, but it would definitely be a nice idea for an RPG with a cast consisting of amoral jerks + one naive guy.

[Green Spanner]

To be honest, I think with a little tweaking, 8 bit theater would ACTUALLY work as a story for a real video game. Just tone down the characters' extremeness a little and replace jokes with drama and you got yourself the first Final Fantasy without a handsome, intelligent protagonist. (Since BM isn't handsome and Fighter isn't intelligent. The other's have less "screentime" and thus don't count.)

So basically, it would work as a game if you changed huge chunks of it so that it barely resembled 8-bit?

[Neni]

So basically, it would work as a game if you changed huge chunks of it so that it barely resembled 8-bit?

I wouldn't call it "barely".

It's kinda like dissassembling a prebuilt lego-building and reassembling it in a different way. The pieces are still there, the context is just vastly different.

...Like trying to turn Shakespear-comedy plays into dramas about WW2.

[bluestarultor]

Actually, there have been several attempts to make an 8-Bit Theater game (all by the same guy and they all failed).

[Kim]

I can only see an 8-Bit Theater game working if it was A - a point and click adventure game and B - had no relevance to the plot of the comic beyond starring the characters. A sort of one-off adventure, like the Metal Gear Solid movie.

[Neni]

A - a point and click adventure game


The only thing coming to my mind now is Zack and Wickie and this results in Fighter eating a bar of chocolate while a golden bell-monkey hovers above his head.

[Magic_Marker]

I purpose an 8bit game starring Onion Kid throughout the series.

At the end of every level he finds happiness. At the beginning of every level Black Mage ruins the happiness you just obtained.

[Zinos]

If a new 8-bit theater is made... I think it should be 16-bit, FF5 sprites with some editing should make pretty nicely for the characters if it still follows BM, Fighter, Thief and RM.

[Lyaer]

I was going to make an 8-bit theater adventure game with the Adventure Game Studio once. Black Mage made an evil pie and then it got stolen and you had to find it. It would have been pretty awful if I had followed through on it.

Although...I did have the fantastic idea of letting you swap Red Mage's stats around during play time, in order to solve puzzles. I think in retrospect that actually could have been a fun mechanic for a short game, plus could have allowed for some amusing slapstick, like if you set your luck too low you get spontaneously zapped by lightning or something.

...

So maybe not THAT amusing.

Everything else was going to be absolutely terrible though. I wonder if I still have the files around somewhere.

[Ti-Phil]

I do not think a sequel should be made, there is a limit at how much someone can add to a story before inspiration runs out. But I admit, a random page here or there would be fun.

[Dachimotsu]

Look, guys. A sequel to 8-bit that brings the original characters back simply would not work. This story already has conclusion, for all the characters. And a 16-bit Theater would mean unfairly skipping FFs 2 and 3, which my respect for the series simply won't tolerate. No, any sequel would have to be based on FF2, with entirely new character arcs.

Firion would be obsessed with roses and turn into a blithering idiot every time a girl (sans Maria) tries to speak with him.
Maria can be the "White Mage" of the comic, doing her best to be the good girl, but having a very destructive temper.
Guy can just be retarded. Even more so than Fighter. Humor already exists here.
Paul can be just like Thief, only better since he's also a ninja!

8-bit Theater 2, based on these ideas, would be amazing. I'd make it myself if I wasn't busy with my own FF fancomic.

[Meister]

That sounds suspiciously like the basic 8BT setup only with names and looks switched around a bit.

In fact, that whole sequel idea sounds faintly familiar. (http://www.8easybits.net/misc/8BTguest.png)

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1386/8btguest.png (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/8btguest.png/)

[MSperoni]

*applaud* I agree with the above post.

[Aldurin]

That is a problem but the priority kill list is those who speak Klingon, Covenant, Latin or any fictional language from sci-fi stuff.

What charges will Brian face for unleashing this monster into the world?

[Meister]

Klingon, Covenant, Latin or any fictional language from sci-fi stuff
One of these things is not like the others...

[Bard The 5th LW]

...one of these things do not belong.

Anyways, I love that comic Meister posted. Was that a Guest Comic at some point? I vaguely remember seeing it.

[Aldurin]

One of these things is not like the others...

Oh, right. Halo: Reach doesn't come out until September, so Covenant isn't in full circulation yet.

[Bard The 5th LW]

He's referring to Latin. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle0t9r68ih?from=Main.DontExplainTheJoke) Latin is a real language. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CaptainObvious)

[Meister]

It was a guest comic submission by Pat, the author of Eight Easy Bits, which I like to call "the other good sprite comic" and yes this is a shameless plug.

[Aldurin]

He's referring to Latin. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle0t9r68ih?from=Main.DontExplainTheJoke) Latin is a real language. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CaptainObvious)

If it was, it wouldn't be a "dead language". It's as real as the other ones.

[Krylo]

He's referring to Latin. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle0t9r68ih?from=Main.DontExplainTheJoke) Latin is a real language. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CaptainObvious)

Lies.

Latin was invented by the alien overlords to force us into submission with 'ancient' poems about homosex.

[Geminex]

...
wat

Are you seriously comparing Latin (which, at one point in time, was nearly spoken all over europe, had a huge cultural impact, and contributed to forming the basis from which nearly all european languages developed) to Klingon? Just because not too many people speak it today?

...

Let me put it this way: Had Latin not existed, our world would be a hugely different place today. Certainly the language we're currently speaking would be very different indeed.
If Klingon hadn't existed, a dozen trekkies would've had to find something better to do with their time.

Latin is fucking omnipresent, my friend. In everything from the letters you type to the words you say. It's not dead by a long shot, and is certainly more real than any fictional language you'd care to name.

...

[/RANT]

[Kim]

If I had to guess, I'd say that's the joke.

[Geminex]

Krylo is obviously joking. I don't think that evilearl is. And besides, I have absolutely NO sense of humor in regards to language. I spent two years (well, three hours per week for two years) learning it; you imply that it's useless, even jokingly, and I'll spend another two years telling you how incredibly, incredibly, OMG IT BOGGLES MY MIND, it's over nine-thousaaaaaand!!!, wrong you are.

[Green Spanner]

If it was, it wouldn't be a "dead language". It's as real as the other ones.

I'm not sure where to begin here...

[Kim]

OMG

You make a big deal about language and then you have to go and butcher it like that. For shame.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Got to go with what Gem has already stated. There is an otherworldly difference between a language that was largely spoken in the past, to a language that was made to accompany a fictional series and has never made true impact upon the world.

Unless... we aren't actually real.

[walkertexasdruid]

A modified King Steve could be the Emperor for a FF2 sprite comic. I mean the guy just invades the rest of the world without any explanation. Sounds familiar doesn't it. He was not the most competant villain either. ;)

[Aldurin]

Krylo is obviously joking. I don't think that evilearl is.

Name me any country, hell any town, that has Latin as it's official language. The only uses of it that I see are translating medieval shit, naming elements and adding another language course to colleges.

I you're gonna learn other languages, go with two or three of the predominant ones in today's society and then learn one that pays your bills (C, C++, etc.)

With all respect for those who have already learned Latin, I do kinda wish I knew how to speak that so I could confuse the shit out of random pedestrians. That'd be another cool weapon to wield against idiots.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I really doubt that brian still has an interest in 8-bit. So the odds of seeing an 8-bit 2 even based on FF2 is very slim.

[Kim]

The 8-Bit Act II comic that someone had going on here for a little bit was decently enjoyable. Not as good as 8-Bit's better moments, but it had a better start than 8-Bit did.

Still, and this is speaking as someone who actually made a sprite comic for a little while, if I never see another sprite comic again, I can't really say that I'll be missing out.

[Archbio]

I you're gonna learn other languages, go with two or three of the predominant ones in today's society and then learn one that pays your bills (C, C++, etc.)

Latin isn't totally useless in understanding (and thus learning) contemporary languages. Also useful for a Vatican spy.

[Meister]

In everything from the letters you type to the words you say.
In fact a simple sentence like
Name me any country, hell any town, that has Latin as it's official language.
contains at least three central words derived from Latin. Also, the Vatican. Center of the Catholic church. You may have heard of it.

Anyway I'm just going to stop this here because the language discussion is off topic, not going anywhere and I think what we've heard so far tells us enough and while we could go back to discussing a theoretical 8-Bit Theater 2, an 8-Bit Theater 2 is officially not happening.

EDIT: So as to not let that response go to waste:

Name me any country, hell any town, that has Latin as it's official language. The only uses of it that I see are translating medieval shit, naming elements and adding another language course to colleges.

I you're gonna learn other languages, go with two or three of the predominant ones in today's society and then learn one that pays your bills (C, C++, etc.)

With all respect for those who have already learned Latin, I do kinda wish I knew how to speak that so I could confuse the shit out of random pedestrians. That'd be another cool weapon to wield against idiots.

A language doesn't have to be spoken to be omnipresent. Not if so many other languages are based on it. If you wanted a percentage for English, I'd say... bout 50% of it is latin, or stems from a latin basis. Spanish would be more like 60%, Italy would be 80% or more. German would have less, maybe 40%, French would have even less.
These are the languages that shaped the world. Latin is still firmly rooted in our day-to-day conversation, certainly in our written conversation (what we're using is called the roman alphabet for a reason, if not for the spread of latin through europe, we probably wouldn't be using these letters). Even more so in anything scientific. Physics to biology, it's all latin.

And because of this firm rooting in modern-day language, it provides two things:
a) makes it one hell of a lot easier to learn most european languages
b) gives you a far deeper understanding of these languages

I mean, even if you don't intend to learn any more languages, the similarities between, say, english and latin are quite obvious once you know both languages. And that, in turn, imparts a huge understanding of the etymology of different words. And understanding what a word meant back then, and what it has developed into today, firstly is really an eye-opener in regards to cultural evolution, especially if you start considering what could have driven this change. Also increases the precision and elegance of your own language use, I think.

In a way you're right. Latin doesn't have a certain application like a programming language does. It probably won't pay your bills. It's not a tool. But what it does is hugely increase your understanding of our world, our culture, our language.
And I think that's totally worth it.