Futurama's back and everything is good again. Probably forever.

[Carade]

4 WEEKS AGO. 4 WEEKS AGO.

Yadda yadda, Futurama, blah blah blah, Fry's dog, rabble rabble, Bender is great, shamble bobble dibble dooble, what do you guys think?

[Aerozord]

Thank you, I almost forgot about this. please also post exact time and date. Yay Futurama is back, finally

[Sithdarth]

Thursday 10pm Eastern.

[Osterbaum]

Finally. Oh how I have waited for this day.

[Seil]

I am highly dissapointed that yhou did not start this thread with a "Good news, everyone!"

[Carade]

That would be far too easy.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

*Grumbles* I'll still have to wait for the dvds!

[BloodyMage]

It's already online. I'm not suggesting you go watch it, but it is online...somehow before it even premièred...

[Amake]

Is it just me who thought Into the Wild Green Yonder was an excellent note to end the series on?

Oh fine, the word "transcredible" alone is worth it.

[Seil]

http://aldenford.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/futurama_as_anime_2.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V-xKq64aRY)

Good news, everyone! Bad news.

[Doc ock rokc]

It's already online. I'm not suggesting you go watch it, but it is online...somehow before it even premièred...

where?

[Donomni]

Like, seriously. Is it out legally?

[Lithp]

Shit. I'm not getting Comedy Central right now. That makes me feel angry!

[Magus]

Obviously he was talking about a pirated version that is available, that's why they said they couldn't tell you to watch it. They sure as heck can't tell you where to get it. Personally, I'm not going to bother, it's on TV tomorrow. Free is free, even hatred of advertising can't get me down on to the level that I'd purposefully pirate something that's being shown on TV for free.

Shit. I'm not getting Comedy Central right now. That makes me feel angry!

They might put it up on the Comedy Central website after it airs for a few days. Or you could pirate it, which I am not encouraging you to do because pirating is wrong. So very, very wrong.

[BloodyMage]

Well, I'm not saying that I pirate it, or that recommend that you pirate it, but I would imagine that someone outside of the United States who might have to wait months to see it, and even then in some cases it's only Broadcast though Virgin TV or Sky, so free view watchers as well as foreigners may be sorely tempted to pirate the show.

I had completely forgotten it was returning until a few days a go, then the next day I seen this thread. I'm very happy that it's back though.

[BitVyper]

I can't wait. It'll be just like meeting an old friend you haven't seen for years again, and everything is great and he's just the way you left him, then as time goes on you start to realise he has a crippling meth addiction and a wife two children he doesn't support, and the only reason he looked you up was to try and con you into giving him some money.

Woo! Exciting!

[Lithp]

I find the ethical conundrums of pirating inversely proportional to how much of a pain in the ass it is for me to acquire what I want through legal means.

I also find those ethical conundrums directly proportional to how much of a pain in the ass it is for me to download the pirated object in the first place.

[synkr0nized]

ITT, people being cute trying not to broach a subject.

Keep it about Futurama.

[Lumenskir]

Keep it about Futurama.
...By framing everything in terms of the Lucy Liu-Bot episode?

[synkr0nized]

Who knows what hijinks those Nappster guys are up to these days?!

[Solid Snake]

...The real problem with Futurama is that I thought the first four seasons (+ the first movie) were so perfectly well-contained and told such a cohesive storyline that I'm not sure what the heck Futurama's going to be about anymore. I just sort of feel like the show's explored all the interesting avenues and continuing it may result in yet another Family Guy style letdown in quality.

I'll put it this way: When I watched the first movie my initial reaction (Aside from "This is awesome! A Futurama movie! I thought I'd never witness another episode!") was that the writers essentially crammed all the "deep" or "serious" remaining material they planned to explore in future Futurama seasons into said movie. The first movie seemed to resolve all the unanswered questions that the show subtly asked us to examine, like "Why did Fry go to the future?" and "Why is Fry special?" and "Who is Nibbler and what is his purpose?" and "Why did it appear that an alien race destroyed the Earth during that montage when Fry was frozen?"

...With all those questions essentially resolved, Futurama's either going to have to create new mysteries out of thin air or completely ignore the deeper or more serious series-wide content in favor of just seeking out quick laughs. I've always felt the strongest Futurama episodes were the ones with the heavier content, though (such as Luck of the Fryish, and of course the one with Fry's dog.) Those episodes tended to be ones that Groening and his cowriters had planned from the very beginning, and the series benefited from it; that same dynamic isn't going to be present now.

Oh, there's still plenty of stories that could be told about a cast of lovable characters getting into random shenanigans in the future, but I feel that Fry and Leela and Bender's stories are all done, or they should be done. If Fry and Leela aren't in a strong relationship together in upcoming season(s), it will only be due to artificial reasons (the writers ignoring the character's past development in favor of continuing the tension.) That holds true with Amy and Kip, too.

[Aerozord]

actually the movie made some continuity errors like how his girlfriend said that he just disappeared but clearly she met him and kicked him out. Or why his brother would name his kid Philip in memory of his brother when his brother was sitting right there. Also lessens the emotional impact of his dog waiting for him all those years, if he was still living with him

Its also possible it wasn't done, the story is thought up way in advance. For example, in the first episode ThE VERY FIRST ONE you can see nibblers shadow when Fry gets frozen. Remember the show was prematurely cancelled, he might have had more stuff planned that he never got to do

[Solid Snake]

actually the movie made some continuity errors like how his girlfriend said that he just disappeared but clearly she met him and kicked him out. Or why his brother would name his kid Philip in memory of his brother when his brother was sitting right there. Also lessens the emotional impact of his dog waiting for him all those years, if he was still living with him


...Well if you put it that way, I might as well cross off the first Futurama movie and just view the four original seasons as the "genuine" Futurama content. =/

[Doc ock rokc]

actually the movie made some continuity errors like how his girlfriend said that he just disappeared but clearly she met him and kicked him out. Or why his brother would name his kid Philip in memory of his brother when his brother was sitting right there. Also lessens the emotional impact of his dog waiting for him all those years, if he was still living with him

Its also possible it wasn't done, the story is thought up way in advance. For example, in the first episode ThE VERY FIRST ONE you can see nibblers shadow when Fry gets frozen. Remember the show was prematurely cancelled, he might have had more stuff planned that he never got to do

There is always the possibility that Paradox fry/lars didn't interact with anyone. Think about it. He lived above the pizza place (away from his girlfriend's apartment) for 2 years then went off whaling. Then there is always the possibility that he skipped a few days weeks months in time when he came back.

[Lithp]

Lars eventually gets into the cryogenics machine anyway, so the retcon is essentially that the characters weren't referring to the disappearance we thought they were. And I'm kinda glad they toyed with the Seymour thing. That...was really depressing....

As for new stories, the latest movie threw out a big one:

"I will now collect the DNA of homo sapiens."
"I thought you only collected the DNA of endangered species."
*Flies away.*
"Huh, I guess he didn't hear me...."

Futurama has shown in the past that it's all about things that appear like mundane jokes at the time, but are actually massive foreshadowing. Therefore, this probably implies that some big shit is going to go down soon.

And whether or not that's true, the 2nd Brainspawn episode really came out of nowhere. The plot contained within the 1st Brainspawn episode wrapped them up quite nicely. There wasn't even a hint that there were more than the ones Fry messed up. So, even if shit DOES start coming out of nowhere, it's not necessarily adaptation decay.

[Mannix]

I may or may not have seen the first two episodes. They may or may not have been awesome.

[Aerozord]

There is always the possibility that Paradox fry/lars didn't interact with anyone. Think about it. He lived above the pizza place (away from his girlfriend's apartment) for 2 years then went off whaling. Then there is always the possibility that he skipped a few days weeks months in time when he came back.

but he does girlfriend mentions him being kicked out, you see him eating dinner with his family, and Fry jr was even the one that told Bender he left town. He also returned mere moments after he was frozen, so he didn't skip time either.

[Lumenskir]

...The real problem with Futurama is that I thought the first four seasons (+ the first movie) were so perfectly well-contained and told such a cohesive storyline that I'm not sure what the heck Futurama's going to be about anymore. I just sort of feel like the show's explored all the interesting avenues and continuing it may result in yet another Family Guy style letdown in quality.
I think you might be elevating your past memories of the show to Arrested Development levels, which it really doesn't deserve. Sure, there were some episodes that benefited from having callbacks layered on top of callforwards, but the majority of the series was a mostly episodic "Simpsons in the Future" (but the good seasons of the Simpsons). I'm not anywhere close to a megafan, but I still find it incredibly easy to watch whatever random episode is on repeat and laugh at 95% of the self-contained jokes.

[Aerozord]

they really seem to be tossing out the twist ending alot, wonder if they intend to keep this trend going

Also for some reason this thread now confuses me. All this talk about the show being cancelled? whats that about?

[Lithp]

Aerozord: To reiterate, Lars eventually gets into the cryogenics machine anyway, so the retcon is essentially that the characters weren't referring to the disappearance we thought they were. And the show was cancelled. Don't you remember the line from the first movie? "Those morons who cancelled us were themselves fired for incompetence!" et cetera et cetera.

Lumenskir: Yeah, I didn't want to be the first guy to say, "Y'know, Futurama isn't really that great," but I also felt that the analysis was painting the show to be something it wasn't. It's not like it's some kind of grand, dramatic story. There is some continuing story, but it's really minor. Overall, Futurama is an episodic show with little continuity. For example, remember Bender meeting God? That doesn't dramatically influence later episodes. The show even lampshades this format with the episode about the Omicrons wanting to see the last episode of "Single Female Lawyer."

[P-Sleazy]

I thoroughly enjoyed both episodes. I'm glad its back.

[Revising Ocelot]

This is where I suddenly realise that there's a new season of Futurama and I had NO IDEA about it. Oh well, if it's screened over there it'll take about four years to get here. Or possibly Sky1 already showed it yesterday, as Lost was shown at exactly the same time as the US (which was 5AM here). *sulks*

[BloodyMage]

Yeah but this isn't Lost. It might get aired next week sometime I guess, but I wouldn't have expected Sky 1 to air it live as they did with Lost.

[Lithp]

I'll have to try finding a way to watch the episodes later in the week.

[Aerozord]

Aerozord: To reiterate, Lars eventually gets into the cryogenics machine anyway, so the retcon is essentially that the characters weren't referring to the disappearance we thought they were. And the show was cancelled. Don't you remember the line from the first movie? "Those morons who cancelled us were themselves fired for incompetence!" et cetera et cetera.


ALL HAIL THE HYPNO TOAD

[Archbio]

To reiterate, Lars eventually gets into the cryogenics machine anyway, so the retcon is essentially that the characters weren't referring to the disappearance we thought they were.

It still saps the emotion out of The Luck of the Fryrish (I think that was the title?) at least, I think. It's a different man that disappears in the story told by the movie, in different circumstances.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

You guys do remember that Futurama is a comedy series right? And that Comedy > Continuity? Yeah, I'm ok with them making a thoroughly enjoyable comedy movie about time travel that ends up retconning previous epeisodes, because the movie as a whole was funny.

[Aerozord]

not when it lessens the quality of what many consider the best episodes in the series. However I don't let it ruin either. Just when I have to choose one version over the other, I'd rather pretend the movies are non-canon.

[Sithdarth]

I was under the impression that the entire point of the universal time code was that it allowed paradoxical time travel into the past. Essentially what originally happened did happen the first time around but then Fry's time antics changed everything.

[Archbio]

That sounds spot on, Sithdarth.

Retcons can be pretty terrible in how they are meant to nullify past storytelling.

For me I guess it comes down to not finding Bender's Big Score that funny (and even less interesting from other standpoints.) Lets not even talk about the two next movies. I hope the new episodes don't follow their example.

[Lithp]

Archbio: If anything, it sucks the emotion out of the Seymour thing. And, frankly, I don't watch Futurama to get depressed.

Sithdarth: The whole concept was "eliminating time paradoxes," so I don't think that's it.

[Sithdarth]

There weren't really any paradoxes in terms of how Fry changed things. Everything happened like it was supposed to happen just a few extra things happened as well that only effected the present of the series. Then any future paradox possibilities were eliminated with the death of the time copies.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Yeah, the time code allowed one to perform "non-paradoxical" time travel, which basically means, "doing whatever the fuck you want without consequences". Which is exactly what happened in the first movie. Essentially what we saw in the first movie was an alternate past, created by the use of the time code, which didn't affect the cause and effect flow of the natural universe. So in essence, there now exists 2 pasts; the one in which Seymour waited for a Fry that never returned, and a Seymour which met Lars from an alternate future.

Just because they both exist doesn't mean that either of them was cancelled out by the other, they both exist, in alternate past versions of the same universe.


In short, Wibbley Wobbly, Timey Wimey... Stuff.

[Lithp]

Umm...no. The reason that the time paradoxes had to be eliminated is BECAUSE they weren't in some kind of parallel universe. If there "aren't any paradoxes," then it logically follows that none of the events of the series were changed. If they were "changed," then that would be a time paradox.

We can see this in the other episode of the series involving time travel, Roswell That Ends Well. The things the characters did didn't change the past, they were part of a stable time loop.

[Archbio]

I remember the universe ripping open at the end of the movie because there were too many paradoxes.

Or something.

[Lithp]

There was something to the effect of using the equation being highly risky & making the universe unstable, I don't really remember.

[Kim]

It was because there were too many paradoxes.

[Sithdarth]

Rather there were too many Benders. Also the whole point of the time code as I understood it was to be able to go back and time and do whatever you wanted without effecting the perceived course of history. The only paradoxes that were ever actively eliminated where the time clones. Which is of course why the too many Benders at the end ripped the Universe. All the doom in once place reached doom critical mass.

[Lithp]

NonCon: I'm not demanding citation. Just be content with that.

Sithdarth: Exactly. "Without effecting the perceived course of history."

[Archbio]

So the time code allows for time travel in which whatever paradoxes are caused are corrected, and at the end there was too many paradoxes concentrated together so that when they were corrected, it ripped open the Universe.

[Sithdarth]

Sithdarth: Exactly. "Without effecting the perceived course of history."

That doesn't mean without changing the past significantly.

So the time code allows for time travel in which whatever paradoxes are caused are corrected, and at the end there was too many paradoxes concentrated together so that when they were corrected, it ripped open the Universe.

That is not how it sounded or looked to me. I mean Bender stole things and did things that should have drastically changed history but didn't. The only paradoxes that ever seemed doomed where time clones.

[Archbio]

In any case, the Universe was ripped open by too many paradoxes (all time clones) being corrected at once.

[Sithdarth]

I don't know wasn't the Professor saying something about doom particles or energy or something in regards to the clones? It could have simply been that all that doom in one place did something bad to the universe before the Bender clones could be fixed. Although that could count as a paradox correction but it seems like kind of a cop out.

[Lithp]

Umm...Sithdarth, surely you see that what you're saying is logically inconsistent?

Without effecting the perceived course of history.

That doesn't mean without changing the past significantly.

Bender stole things and did things that should have drastically changed history but didn't.

The only paradoxes that ever seemed doomed where time clones.

The time code allowed paradoxical time travel into the past. Essentially what originally happened did happen the first time around but then Fry's time antics changed everything.

Everything happened like it was supposed to happen just a few extra things happened as well that only effected the present of the series.

So, was the past changed or not? Is only the present affected, or is the entire course of history changed? Are time paradoxes involving events resolved, or just rewritten?

One minute, you seem to argue that this form of time travel changes events in the past, the next minute, you appear to be implying that it doesn't do that.

I don't see what's wrong with the time loop idea. It doesn't actually contradict any of the events in the series. In fact, why would the writers even bother to write the story in such a way that the past events work with the movie if the idea was that this form of time travel re-writes time?

And there actually IS a case of a non-clone time paradox being resolved: Seymour is still fossilized standing up.

Also, the verb form of "effect" is "affect."

[Archbio]

I don't know wasn't the Professor saying something about doom particles or energy or something in regards to the clones? It could have simply been that all that doom in one place did something bad to the universe before the Bender clones could be fixed. Although that could count as a paradox correction but it seems like kind of a cop out.

Isn't the point of the doom particles a joke on the fact that the clones were doomed because they weren't supposed to exist (and would suffer critical existence failure?)

My recollection is really vague, but that's the impression I'm left with.

[Sithdarth]

Umm...Sithdarth, surely you see that what you're saying is logically inconsistent?

That's because the very nature of the time code was to allow logically inconsistent time travel.

So, was the past changed or not? Is only the present affected, or is the entire course of history changed? Are time paradoxes involving events resolved, or just rewritten?

One minute, you seem to argue that this form of time travel changes events in the past, the next minute, you appear to be implying that it doesn't do that.

The simple answer to this is yes to everything. The entire point of the time code and the movie was to allow the writers to do whatever they wanted to do with past events without trampling established continuity and without being bound to established continuity. (Except when they felt like it.)


I don't see what's wrong with the time loop idea. It doesn't actually contradict any of the events in the series. In fact, why would the writers even bother to write the story in such a way that the past events work with the movie if the idea was that this form of time travel re-writes time?


Because they are jerks.

And there actually IS a case of a non-clone time paradox being resolved: Seymour is still fossilized standing up.

Or that is simply a manifestation of time travel antics not effecting the present time line in anyway. That is a really good way to resolve paradoxes.


Also, the verb form of "effect" is "affect."

And I don't particularly care as long as the point got across. Generally it's polite to let little mistakes go.

Isn't the point of the doom particles a joke on the fact that the clones were doomed because they weren't supposed to exist (and would suffer critical existence failure?)

My recollection is really vague, but that's the impression I'm left with.

The logical conclusion of that joke is for doom particles to actively doom the universe at a high enough concentration.

[Lithp]

That's because the very nature of the time code was to allow logically inconsistent time travel.

Then I suppose we're done here. There's no point in arguing. You're not examining it logically because you're arguing from sheer closed-mindedness. It doesn't matter what faults are presented in your logic because you've already decided that they prove you correct. Any attempt to indicate a mechanism to how the time travel works is inherently pointless, as you've chosen to disregard the things that are said in the movie as well as deductive & inductive analysis of said movie.

And I don't particularly care as long as the point got across. Generally it's polite to let little mistakes go.

Strictly speaking, "I don't care & you're a jerk for correcting me" is kind of an immature response to someone pointing out incorrect grammar.

[Kim]

Going out of your way to point out incorrect grammar seems a tad unneccessary though. People make mistakes, and there's really no good way to say "By the way you spelled this wrong" outside of proofreading an essay/article/story/review/etc, and it doesn't exactly look like you were well-meaning in your "you used improper grammar" bit. Honestly, Futurama is a decent show. Maybe it's vaguely consistent in its time travel shenanigans; maybe not. Still no reason for anyone to get worked up over it. That said, it might be best to more or less stop the guessing game until one of us gets the motivation to actually go and rewatch the movie, unless someone did and I missed it. There seems to be a lot of "I think it was such and such" going on.

[Lithp]

Going out of your way to point out incorrect grammar seems a tad unneccessary though.

Posting on a forum to begin with seems a tad unnecessary. Your point? Look, if you don't want grammatical errors corrected, then don't make them. You really have no one but yourself to blame when you're corrected. If they aren't directly using it as an argument or calling you stupid because of it, you really have no grounds to pretend that they are somehow in the wrong.

and it doesn't exactly look like you were well-meaning in your "you used improper grammar" bit.

Can you point out anything that actually shows bad intention? Hell, it's clearly a side-note. I wasn't even the first one to make a big deal out of it. This just seems like a projection to me, based on the stereotype that someone who corrects your mistakes thinks they're smarter than you. It's an assumption that needs to die.

Maybe it's vaguely consistent in its time travel shenanigans; maybe not. Still no reason for anyone to get worked up over it.

I'm not. The assumption that people who correct bad logic are "flipping out" or "taking something too seriously" is yet another assumption that needs to die.

That said, it might be best to more or less stop the guessing game until one of us gets the motivation to actually go and rewatch the movie, unless someone did and I missed it. There seems to be a lot of "I think it was such and such" going on.

The only subject I was actually doing that on, I dropped like a ton of lead bricks, for PRECISELY this reason.

[Kim]

Maybe it's just the way you post, but your posts come off as very... how should I put this... defensive? Argumentative? I'm not saying that's your intention, but that's how you come off. Even if you aren't getting worked up over things, your posts still feel like you are.

You posted the grammatical correction at the end of a series of arguments against his post. Doing so makes it seem more antagonistic. Arguing that "If you don't want people correcting your grammar don't make grammar errors" reinforces this. People make mistakes. Honestly, this forum is much better about its grammar and spelling than most that I've seen. Going out of your way to correct someone's grammar in the middle of an argument is not the best way to go about things. Nothing is really gained from doing so, either.

This is a really silly argument though, and ultimately detracts from the quality of the thread. It'd probably be best if we just moved on from it and talked about the show itself, because talking about it's sketchy time travel mechanics doesn't seem to be getting us anywhere.

So yeah. Futurama. I'm kinda interested in seeing more, but at the same time I worry that we won't really see any of the main plot threads advancing other than an episode every season that makes it look like one is being changed up at the end, but is quickly forgotten. Admittedly, though, I haven't seen that many episodes, so if anyone can confirm/deny whether this was the case with the show in general, I'd appreciate it.

[Lithp]

Maybe it's just the way you post, but your posts come off as very... how should I put this... defensive? Argumentative? I'm not saying that's your intention, but that's how you come off. Even if you aren't getting worked up over things, your posts still feel like you are.

Sometimes it just doesn't pay to sugar coat things. Sometimes, ya gotta be blunt. I don't want to beat around the bush with that argument for several more posts. It won't go anywhere until Sith sees that adopting an unfalsifiable position is a bad way to approach a discussion. So, I pointed that out.

You posted the grammatical correction at the end of a series of arguments against his post. Doing so makes it seem more antagonistic.

Projection.

Arguing that "If you don't want people correcting your grammar don't make grammar errors" reinforces this.

No it doesn't. It's just common sense. If you're going to get pissy when people correct your grammar, then don't make the mistakes. Seriously, all of this is only coming out because he complained about the correction & because you chose to push the issue, I'd intended to just let it go. I'm not going to apologize for making the correction as I did nothing wrong. I don't see how any of this is "antagonistic" on my part at all.

People make mistakes.

The flipside of this argument is that you if you accept the right to make mistakes, you also accept the responsibility to handle constructive criticism properly.

Honestly, this forum is much better about its grammar and spelling than most that I've seen.

Yes, it is.

Going out of your way to correct someone's grammar in the middle of an argument is not the best way to go about things. Nothing is really gained from doing so, either.

Okay, first of all, what is this "going out of your way" shit? It was IN the post I was responding to. It's in one of the quotes, even! Second of all, a better understanding of the English language is gained.

This is a really silly argument though, and ultimately detracts from the quality of the thread. It'd probably be best if we just moved on from it and talked about the show itself, because talking about it's sketchy time travel mechanics doesn't seem to be getting us anywhere.

Okay, I let it go last time, but seriously, stop going all "neutral party" after lecturing me. If you want the subject dropped, drop it yourself.

[Lumenskir]

So yeah. Futurama. I'm kinda interested in seeing more, but at the same time I worry that we won't really see any of the main plot threads advancing other than an episode every season that makes it look like one is being changed up at the end, but is quickly forgotten. Admittedly, though, I haven't seen that many episodes, so if anyone can confirm/deny whether this was the case with the show in general, I'd appreciate it.
As far as I can tell, there were two 'main' plot threads in olde Futurama: (1) Fry likes Leela, who varies in how much she likes him back (and this new season has replaced this with "They are dating, with challenges") and (2) Fry has a broken brain. Those plot threads only take center stage in a small handful of episodes, while 90% of the rest are self-contained episodic adventures featuring the wacky future (the 10% or so are storylines that are basically callbacks to past one-off jokes, like Bender wanting to be a cook without having a sense of taste, or Leela's origins).

On the sliding scale of sitcom continuity, it's right above The Simpsons but way under things like Community, Party Down, Scrubs, Archer, etc. There's no real threat of continuity lockout or (theoretically) dragging plotlines.

[Lithp]

Fry & Leela are dating? Finally! I was wondering when they'd stop painfully dicking around that for the sake of maintaining the status quo.

[Sithdarth]

Then I suppose we're done here. There's no point in arguing. You're not examining it logically because you're arguing from sheer closed-mindedness. It doesn't matter what faults are presented in your logic because you've already decided that they prove you correct. Any attempt to indicate a mechanism to how the time travel works is inherently pointless, as you've chosen to disregard the things that are said in the movie as well as deductive & inductive analysis of said movie.

Just going to say that just because you cannot see the logic doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Also, that the logic of any fictional work has only a tangential relation to real world logic. The reason we are done here is because you insist on applying logical standards that don't apply.

[Fenris]

Guys guys guys, I really don't want to have to do anything resembling moderation here, but if this line of conversation keeps up, you'll leave me no choice, and nobody wants that. So if y'all would just kindly drop it and start discussing the show that'd be swell.

[Aerozord]

ok then if its not too spammy

Favorite episode?

Hard to choose, but probably the one with Seymor (I dont feel like checking my spelling)

Not simply for the emotional pull, but for this scene

Fry: Now I shall preform my people's native dance *turns on music* "Do the hussle"

[Nikose Tyris]

Fry: Now I shall preform my people's native dance *turns on music* "Do the hussle"

That episode is on my PSP, along with my favourite, "The Sting". Really trippy episode with several scenes of Nibbler getting hurled across the room.

[Lumenskir]

Time Keeps on Slipping. It's the only one I bothered to remember the title for, it's that stuffed with great one-liners and gags.

I mean, Now let's let the Globetrotters and Atomic Super Men take the court, in what promises to be a routine game.

Thorias scores, really showing what a young man with a cannon in his chest can do.

Globetrotters win, 244-86. A dark day for humanity, folks. We have been beaten...in basketball. propels it to the top three, but it's the only episode I think stuffed with a partial list: Zoidberg reminding everyone that they still have Zoidberg, Bender missing out on being a Globetrotter, All of Earth's money in check form, kids hating then loving Social Security, the doomsday devices...heck, there's a 47% chance I may just go an watch the episode again and transcribe it. And to top it all off, it's got Fry and Leela shenanigans that aren't that cloying/annoying.

[Krylo]

Please.

Everyone knows The New Justice Team is the best episode ever.

It's the only one with The New Justice Team Theme.

[Aerozord]

"hmm lets see, power to command sea life.... HEY ZOIDBERG, GET OVER HERE"
"SCREW YOU"
"nope, dont have that"

[Lithp]

Arguments from illogic aside, my favorite episode has to be the one where Bender becomes God, but I don't remember the title.

[Viridis]

Arguments from illogic aside, my favorite episode has to be the one where Bender becomes God, but I don't remember the title.

Godfellas, and I love that one too.

Hm, so hard to pick after 5 seasons...

[Lithp]

That's the one! I squee'd when the godnebula showed up in Bender's Big Score. Too bad it had such a minor role....

[Carade]

Anybody catch the episode tonight. It was pretty good. And the ending kind of caught me off guard.

[Aerozord]

ending almost did, I figured it out right before the reveal. Great episode, so far that I've seen they are keeping the quality of the old show.

[Yrcrazypa]

Arguments from illogic aside, my favorite episode has to be the one where Bender becomes God, but I don't remember the title.

That had to have been one of the darkest episodes they've ever made. It was an awesome one though.

And did anyone else guess the twist more or less right away in Bender's Big Score? Because I did, though it wasn't exactly the most devious one ever.

[Lithp]

Twist?

Also, I don't feel that episode was particularly dark. Now, the one with the Space Bees....

[Osterbaum]

Futurama is awesome and life is good again. We're on the sixth episode at the moment, right?

[Lithp]

I eventually pieced together what happened before the big reveal. Still, that was one of the best emotional endings ever. Right up there with the Seymour episode & the 5 leaf clover one.

[Donomni]

I gotta say, that bit at the end.

CUTEST DAMN THING EVER.

I want a baby Bender...

[Aerozord]

I gotta say, that bit at the end.

CUTEST DAMN THING EVER.

I want a baby Bender...

abit of fridge logic that, not only shouldn't that exist, but flashbacks support that it doesn't

[Lithp]

DAMNIT, YOU HAD TO GO & RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE!

...

Eh, I'm over it.