Fuck you M. Night Shamwow, the Last Airbender totally sucked!

[CelesJessa]

The internet has already beaten you to it... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_FreTKKx6M&fmt=18)

Damn you internet! You have foiled me for the last time!

Man and I thought I was so clever for having thought of that.

[Lithp]

Yeah, I really don't know why people are setting upon me. I was only responding to someone who said, "Don't call it an anime, 'cause it's not!" Paraphrased.

Now, let's settle the semantics, since we just had to get into them:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cartoon

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anime

So, according to these, "cartoon" is humorous & "anime" is the style, NOT the region. Now, the way I see it, we can either use the terms in these specific meanings, or we can just accept that there's a connotative drift in both cases & not really care what term a person uses to describe a show like Avatar, so long as it's more-or-less accurate.

With that said, I feel the need to respond to this in particular:

But somehow "cartoon" despite being used thusly all the time, is not acceptable because it's associated with humorous imagery?

No, that is the exact OPPOSITE of what I am saying. What I said was, "If we cannot use 'anime' because it doesn't fit the *denotation, then we cannot use 'cartoon,' because that also doesn't fit the denotation." Conversely, "If we can use 'anime' because it fits in a connotative sense, then we can use 'cartoon,' because it also fits in a connotative sense."

See? If, then. Precisely the opposite of the double-standard that is being expressed in the quote above.

*=Except that it does fit the denotation, at least according to dictionary.com. It specifically uses the phrase "Japanese style," not "Japanese-originated animation."

On a tangential note, I wonder if they say "animation" or "cartoon" when it comes to American programming, or if they just say "anime"?

[POS Industries]

'POS Style'.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/bruce-1.gif

[Nique]

No, that is the exact OPPOSITE of what I am saying. What I said was, "If we cannot use 'anime' because it doesn't fit the *denotation, then we cannot use 'cartoon,' because that also doesn't fit the denotation." Conversely, "If we can use 'anime' because it fits in a connotative sense, then we can use 'cartoon,' because it also fits in a connotative sense."

I hate to beat this 'comic-book guy' thing into the ground.... EDIT: No, actually that's more of a, eh, what's the polite word for 'complete lie'?


http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9256/comicbookguy2.gif (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/comicbookguy2.gif/)

[Lithp]

I'm just not a guy you want to start a semantics argument with. Or around, apparently. Frankly, my position, which I cannot stress enough, is that it doesn't matter. But if people feel like it's really important enough to pin down, I'm more than willing to oblige.

[Arcanum]

So don't mind me coming out of nowhere and totally changing the subject from whatever it was you guys were talking about, but it seems like the general consensus is that the movie is not good at all. However with that said, would it be worth my time to see it for $5.00 (huzzah for half-price Tuesdays) or would it be better to save my money for a sandwich or something?

[Kim]

Sandwich.

[Mondt]

Sandwich.

[Premmy]

Hooker

[Nique]

Hooker sandwich.

[Amake]

Hooker sandwich in front of the movie screen.

They'll probably thank you for drawing their attention away from the movie.

[CelesJessa]

If you have friends to make amusing commentary with, $5 to see it might not be that bad after all. I at least had fun doing that.

Also, late response is late but:

Edit: Also, the movie was probably really pretty, but since I have a lazy eye and had to watch it in 3D, I didn't get to make out most of that. All I got to see was blurry people and blurry effects, so I was disappointed with that.

or for anyone that didn't understand that, Lazy eyes mean 3D glasses are worthless.

If you use the 3D glasses it's not blurry. Even if you don't get the 3D effect, it fixes the crazy blurry look that the 3D scenes have without the glasses.

[Azisien]

To be honest, my eyes are fine and the 3D effects were still terrible. Looked very, very post-production and sloppily done.

That Owl movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8RKCmkOyB4) though, wow!

[Marc v4.0]

So don't mind me coming out of nowhere and totally changing the subject from whatever it was you guys were talking about, but it seems like the general consensus is that the movie is not good at all. However with that said, would it be worth my time to see it for $5.00 (huzzah for half-price Tuesdays) or would it be better to save my money for a sandwich or something?

See the Movie

[Token]

If you have friends to make amusing commentary with, $5 to see it might not be that bad after all. I at least had fun doing that.


This also applies to Eclipse, which is actually more entertaining.

[Arcanum]

Right, thanks everyone. I think I'll pass up on it, that hooker sandwich sounds like a better deal.

And Token, I'd have to be shackled and dragged into the theater before I see another Twilight movie. I got suckered into watching the first one and that only fueled my hate for the series.

[Token]

Was that with someone who took it seriously, or someone who wanted to take the piss? Cuz that makes all the difference.

[Arcanum]

Someone who took it seriously, unfortunately. And nobody I know would want to go see it just to make fun of it, regardless how amusing it might turn out, because in the end we would still be watching Twilight.

[walkertexasdruid]

So am I the only one who actually liked the movie? I did not watch the animated series yet, at least not that many episodes. But I thought it was a decent movie. I suppose that I will be considered an idiot for thinking that way, but I have never worried about what the "cool" kids think anyway. ;)

[Tev]

My main issue with the movie was that it was pretty much like watching a very poorly done cliff-notes version of the series in live action with sorta flat dialog. The special effects were really pretty good but everything that made me like the characters from the series was sorta glossed over. Another thing that sorta struck me as funky was that hardly anyone's names were pronounced properly. It's not like this was some foreign show that got translated into English and the director decided that using the original pronunciations would be more true to the series. This was an American work with the English pronunciations being correct. There was really no reason for all the vowels in all the names to be drawn out weird.

But yeah, there was a lot about this movie that rubbed me wrong. It seems they really skimped on a lot of story and character development because they assumed everyone who watched the movie would know what's going on. While was a good assumption, it really was no excuse to do what they did with the story. It was really like watching scrambled 5 minute clips from random episodes from season one with a lot of the stuff that mattered strained out.

[Lithp]

According to Shamallama, "Ong" is correct. Something tells me he's wrong. He does, however, have this weird ability to make his bullshit appear to be logical, at first glance.

[Aerozord]

could reason that it was the original intended pronounciation, but when the creators ok the pronounciation of the only audio version of a work, then it should be considered the official and proper one. Unless they have since said otherwise, the original stands

[Fusionman]

According to Shamallama, "Ong" is correct. Something tells me he's wrong. He does, however, have this weird ability to make his bullshit appear to be logical, at first glance.

Well from what I heard a linguist said to to say "Ong" because it'd be easier. Or to summarize we're stupid make it easier to pronounce.

[Premmy]

Relevant link (http://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/aang)

[Lithp]

Yeah, I figured if the pronunciation was wrong, the show would have all sorts of pissed off Weeaboos bitching about it. To quote myself, because I'm just the kind of narcissistic asshole who would do that, "No, Shamallama, being Asian does not make you an expert."

I'm not shitting you. He actually said he knew "because he's Asian."

[Marc v4.0]

So am I the only one who actually liked the movie? I did not watch the animated series yet, at least not that many episodes. But I thought it was a decent movie. I suppose that I will be considered an idiot for thinking that way, but I have never worried about what the "cool" kids think anyway. ;)

I am my friends enjoyed it, and we're huge fans of the series.

Ya'll too damn picky Ya'll got some inflated expectations

[Mondt]

But that's just it.

I didn't expect much at all. It was a genuinely bad movie. Its redeeming qualities were effects and sets. The dialogue was average, the acting was poor, and the characters were barely past empty-shell status. I don't see what there is to enjoy, and that's without comparisons to the series. Like... you're entitled to your opinion and all but my expectations were in no way inflated.

[Funka Genocide]

It should have been watchable to someone who didn't know what an Avatar was. It should have been a standalone product, interesting enough to attract an audience, not some derivative nonsense only interested in milking a pre-established audience.

Take an example of another bad movie, X-Men. Yeah, it was pretty craptastic, but at the same time it had the balls to move in its own direction. If you didn't know what an X-Man was you'd still be able to watch the movie and be all like "damn this needs more Wolverine."

When you watch Avatar as a subject matter neophyte, it just leaves you bewildered and upset. It doesn't have a lot of internal consistency, its just visual cliffs notes of a supposedly great source material. That's a terrible way to write a movie.

[Nikose Tyris]

So am I the only one who actually liked the movie? I did not watch the animated series yet, at least not that many episodes. But I thought it was a decent movie. I suppose that I will be considered an idiot for thinking that way, but I have never worried about what the "cool" kids think anyway. ;)

I am my friends enjoyed it, and we're huge fans of the series.

Nono, see, the thing is the three of us have terrible taste. That's the real issue here. We only like it because we like terrible, terrible things. We should have a get together and watch Kevin Smith movies. I have a machine that makes terrible popcorn and a PS3 that plays terrible movies.

[Lumenskir]

It's made 70.5 fucking million dollars.

I hate you.

[Aerozord]

its not so much expectations as a comparison. There was absolutely no way to make this as good as the series. The "filler" of season one wasn't really filler, because thats when all the character development happens and you learn about the setting. It also paces the story and gives a sense of time and allows a breather between the action.

What fans of the series are seeing is a hands down inferior product to the original. Its viewed as bad not because it is as a stand alone product, but because we know for a fact there is a vastly superior version of this story.

[Funka Genocide]

That doesn't apply to me though, as I never saw the original. This isn't a case of "the book was better."

Its a case of "this is total shit."

[Aerozord]

yes but that can vary from person to person. As I said it can never be as good as the series.

I am not saying the movie was good or bad, I have not seen it. I am guessing though that the story seemed rushed, little character development, and it was exposition heavy. Which all together bogged down the story. And that whether or not you liked it depends on how much that matters to you.

[Funka Genocide]

Everything you just described, coupled with bad acting is more than enough to justify calling it a bad movie.

It was a bad movie. Bad! Not good!

I'm not sure why I expected better though. Ostensibly its a children's show that got away from its premise into something a bit more adult oriented, however this seems to be incidental rather than intended. The movie didn't have the breadth necessary to delve into this "actual content" and so remained purely a "children's movie"

Which is to say a craptastic suckfest meant for the least mentally adept of children. Honestly I am pretty sure the majority of 12 year olds that went to see it feel similarly to how I feel. This movie really treats the audience like idiots.

[Mondt]

Nono, see, the thing is the three of us have terrible taste. That's the real issue here. We only like it because we like terrible, terrible things. We should have a get together and watch Kevin Smith movies. I have a machine that makes terrible popcorn and a PS3 that plays terrible movies.This is exactly what I said word for word. I'm glad you decided to revoice it for me because it is definitely what I said.

Or maybe I explained why its a bad movie and, though somewhat abrasively, displayed curiosity as to what was enjoyable because I cannot find anything beyond/effects (i.e. what money can buy) that is enjoyable and I don't see how it can be viewed as enjoyable. I pride myself on being open-minded but this is literally confusing the shit out of me. So if you would like to calm your shit and contribute, please do so.

[Nikose Tyris]

This is exactly what I said word for word. I'm glad you decided to revoice it for me because it is definitely what I said.

Or maybe I explained why its a bad movie and, though somewhat abrasively, displayed curiosity as to what was enjoyable because I cannot find anything beyond/effects (i.e. what money can buy) that is enjoyable and I don't see how it can be viewed as enjoyable. I pride myself on being open-minded but this is literally confusing the shit out of me. So if you would like to calm your shit and contribute, please do so.

See earlier in the thread where I detailed everything I liked about it before you showed up in the thread.

Then come back and comment how you were being sarcastic and not at all abrasive.

Note that my comment was made in jest as it refered to Kevin Smith movies, and, I think we can all agree, Kevin Smith is the greatest director ever.


Edit: Also, I'm much more confused- of all the people here who hate the movie, and have sat back to actively insult me for it (i.e. "You have brain damage" "you're a troll") you step forward and assume that my sarcasm was directed towards you? No. You are the person I am least likely to insinuate negative things towards. I get you didn't like the movie and that was your thing, it's not like you stomped all over me with insults because I really enjoyed it.

Edit2: Here a link to where I gave my opinion in thought-out detail: http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1056504&postcount=198

If you'd like further reading, read the posts from before and after that where a handful of people inform me I have brain damage. Good times!

[POS Industries]

Relevant link (http://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/aang)
Hey, check out the audio pronunciation.

I should get paid for this shit.

[TIME BOMB]

sooo how bout the next 2 movies. Anyone stoked for those? They gotta be better, right...... right?...

[Premmy]

Ostensibly its a children's show that got away from its premise into something a bit more adult oriented, however this seems to be incidental rather than intended.
More like a family show, to be honest. Somethin everybody can enjoy. What I'm saying is it isnt' accidentally good, but was intended that way. It's very hard for me to talk about Avatar without coming off like a raving fanboy so just o watch the show.
sooo how bout the next 2 movies. Anyone stoked for those? They gotta be better, right...... right?...
Angry Joe makes a good point here. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/bt/aj/ajsreview/25242-the-last-airbender-angry-review)

[Kim]

Shyamalan has already said he wants to make the next two movies "darker".

Welp.

[Lithp]

Nikose, dude, your motto is "Keep trollin', trollin', trollin.'" I'm not sure if anyone called you "brain damaged," but I don't believe that the issue was pursued.

In any case, I've seen your rationale &, quite frankly, it doesn't clear anything up. I've yet to see a decent performance out of these actors in any of the clips. They don't sound like they're actually talking & the scene with the master from the North Pole is the most BORING display of technique that I've ever seen. Honestly, I'd rather see a dozen training episodes from Naruto back-to-back. I'm really hoping that wasn't indicative of the movie's fight scenes.

And the special effects seem a bit below average, as well.

But we do agree on one thing: Kevin Smith is awesome.

Wait a minute...trying to go Darker & Edgier pissed everyone off the first time & Shamallama wants to go FURTHER down that particular rabbit hole? Seriously?

[Archbio]

Unrelenting darkness is what made the series good and popular.

Yep. Obviously.

Kevin Smith is awesome.

Well, Kevin Smith made money off of his inability to write a script for Superman, so I guess I have to begrudgingly accept that there's some skill there.

[Lithp]

I will say that some of Avatar's plotlines* could do with a bit of darkness, but that doesn't translate to "rip out all of the humor & make the movie have a constant atmosphere of dinginess."

*=Jet, for instance.

[Premmy]

Unrelenting darkness is what made the series good and popular.
Shyamalan Agrees (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1643066/20100706/story.jhtml)

[Marc v4.0]

Nono, see, the thing is the three of us have terrible taste. That's the real issue here. We only like it because we like terrible, terrible things. We should have a get together and watch Kevin Smith movies. I have a machine that makes terrible popcorn and a PS3 that plays terrible movies.

As a general rule, I dislike bad movies quite a bit. I didn't think this movie was bad, nor did anyone else I saw it with.

Now, Dragonball Evolution was bad. Very bad. I loved it, though, because it was so damn entertaining in how terribly bad it was. Not the case with this movie.

[Kim]

"There's no accounting for taste."

[Premmy]

But there is a Warbot in Accounting.

[Archbio]

I will say that some of Avatar's plotlines* could do with a bit of darkness, but that doesn't translate to "rip out all of the humor & make the movie have a constant atmosphere of dinginess."


The key word was "unrelenting."

There's actually quite a bit of darkness in Avatar: The Last Airbender, but it's always competing with its cheerfulness and humour.

[Marc v4.0]

"There's no accounting for taste."

I've just started to assume that every other person on NPF has a single, unchangeable line for standards regarding particular forms of media consumption. I used to assume that people were capable of appreciating a wide range and variety of different experiences, and that "taste" was a rather silly term since anyone would be capable of enjoying the lowest humor and the highest humor as it fit them.

[Lithp]

The key word was "unrelenting."

There's actually quite a bit of darkness in Avatar: The Last Airbender, but it's always competing with its cheerfulness and humour.

Yes, I am agreeing with you. I am also, however, noting that some of the show could have used a bit more of it. Maybe. It's a tough call. The balance was pretty good.

[Premmy]

Yes, I am agreeing with you. I am also, however, noting that some of the show could have used a bit more of it. Maybe. It's a tough call. The balance was pretty good.
Jet totally shoulda got visibly impaled on Long-Feng's attack, totally.

You know what ELSE the show needed? the Pebble Dance
http://i.imgur.com/SL93L.gif
and maybe some Ka-tackle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/cambryn/push.gif

[Drownball-Champ]

Jet totally shoulda got visibly impaled on Long-Feng's attack, totally.

You know what ELSE the show needed? the Pebble Dance
{5 guys summon a small stone}

and maybe some Ka-tackle
{KA TACKLE}

I laughed when i saw the pebble dance in the movie. I thought all 5 of those guys summoned that small rock.

[CelesJessa]

Hey guys, you know something cool. People can like or dislike something differently from you and it's totally cool.

Randomly: I kind of wish they hadn't underplayed Zuko's scar so much. It was nice seeing a character who's face wasn't so nice and symmetrical.

You know what ELSE the show needed? the Pebble Dance


http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/382/pumpkin.jpg

[Sithdarth]

So I went and saw it with my Nephew. It was horrible but in an enjoyable enough way. It was worth the $6 to mock it internally.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Jet totally shoulda got visibly impaled on Long-Feng's attack, totally.

You know what ELSE the show needed? the Pebble Dance
http://i.imgur.com/SL93L.gif
and maybe some Ka-tackle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/cambryn/push.gif

Good god, it was even worse then I imagined.

[Lithp]

Celes: Again, the few who like it have been left well enough alone. Possibly because all anyone really needs to do for a rebuttal is go, "Look at those .gifs!"

Premonitions: Because "a little bit darker sometimes" means "blood & gore."

And speaking of Jet, anyone else ever notice that people get hit with bigass rocks & rocks that are practically spikes all of the time, which must be going pretty damn fast to visibly knock them back, often in vulnerable areas like the abdomen or below the sternum, & only Jet dies from it?

At least the firebending kinda makes sense. If the explosion forces you away, you probably won't be burned as bad. Which is another strange thing. As much as the show tries to sell us this idea that the Fire Nation Army is ruthless, they really used very little lethal force or brutality.

[Premmy]

Premonitions: Because "a little bit darker sometimes" means "blood & gore."

I really don't see how making it any "darker" in any way wouldn't really be equivalent to that. Replace "Bloodn'guts" with "Titties" or "Angst" it's still something that would unnecessarily clash with he show in it's entirety.
For EXAMPLE!
http://www.deviantart.com/download/166041825/Cheer_Up_Emo_Aang_by_Booter_Freak.png

[Lithp]

Because...that's a false dichotomy? For example, the first Fire Nation prison. The warden is supposed to be a "ruthless man who doesn't tolerate any rebellion." He is present when Katara makes her big emotional speech & he does NOTHING.

Now, let's say I want to change this scene. According to you, I'm saying, "He should have leapt down there & stabbed Katara through the heart!" But...it's not. Say he fires a warning shot. Grabs her by the arm & threatens her. Throws her in solitary like he did to that old guy.

Did you take that warden very seriously? I didn't. He almost seemed senile to me. And he was very funny.

Now, keep in mind, I'm not saying that any of that stuff should have been done. I am simply citing examples of how "intensify certain scenes" doesn't mean "remove all of the comedy & start adding gore & nudity." If you had wanted to make the warden a more serious character, you could just add comic relief in other areas with characters who already do it, such as Aang & Sokka.

Even Shamallama, who DID gut the series of a lot of the comedy & try to make it more of a war drama, didn't have gore. Surely you realize that there are degrees of magnitude to dark & edgy, right?

Now, because I feel as though I'm dodging something by not including a definitive personal opinion, I have to say...Avatar was not perfect. I mostly agree with you guys that the pacing & tone was pretty spot-on. But are we really going to pretend that it's IMPOSSIBLE to improve upon? Not even the Deus Ex Turtle?

[Premmy]

Because...that's a false dichotomy? For example, the first Fire Nation prison. The warden is supposed to be a "ruthless man who doesn't tolerate any rebellion." He is present when Katara makes her big emotional speech & he does NOTHING.

You thinking of the same prison warden I am? because he always came off as a smug jack-ass who enjoyed his position because it recquired nothing of him. His response of "Pshhhh, bitch please, they're powerless, talk all you want, hell, give em rocks, too" to Katarra's speech is a perfect example of that

Now, let's say I want to change this scene. According to you, I'm saying, "He should have leapt down there & stabbed Katara through the heart!" But...it's not. Say he fires a warning shot. Grabs her by the arm & threatens her. Throws her in solitary like he did to that old guy.
I included "ANGST!" too, which is what you're suggesting, more drama for no particular reason that went against the point of the character.

Did you take that warden very seriously? I didn't. He almost seemed senile to me. And he was very funny.
I don't think I can take anybody with George Takei's voice seriously, I don't think I'm supposed to, either. I can accept him as a smug jackass and not an "I WILL DESTROY YOU!" threat, but then that's not the warden in question

The warden in The Boiling Rock? oh yeah, he was menacing, he was evil, he made people bow to him and threw his weight around, because he was in different conditions, and he was meant to be a different character.

Now, keep in mind, I'm not saying that any of that stuff should have been done. I am simply citing examples of how "intensify certain scenes" doesn't mean "remove all of the comedy & start adding gore & nudity."
And I'm saying "Intensifying" those scenes in any way is as pointless as adding "mature" elements.

If you had wanted to make the warden a more serious character, you could just add comic relief in other areas with characters who already do it, such as Aang & Sokka.

I don't want the warden from that episode to be a more Serious character, it would be unnecessary, like random titties in my entertainment. You don't need to grab at my dick, my violent urges, or my primal fears to make something serious, or entertaining.

Even Shamallama, who DID gut the series of a lot of the comedy & try to make it more of a war drama, didn't have gore. Surely you realize that there are degrees of magnitude to dark & edgy, right?

And all of them would have been annoying and silly

Now, because I feel as though I'm dodging something by not including a definitive personal opinion, I have to say...Avatar was not perfect. I mostly agree with you guys that the pacing & tone was pretty spot-on. But are we really going to pretend that it's IMPOSSIBLE to improve upon? Not even the Deus Ex Turtle?
Pretty much the only thing I don't like about Avatar is the fact the turtle wasn't set up better before hand, and if it had just been Aang figuring it out itself, I'd have been fine.

[Aerozord]

Celes: Again, the few who like it have been left well enough alone. Possibly because all anyone really needs to do for a rebuttal is go, "Look at those .gifs!"

Premonitions: Because "a little bit darker sometimes" means "blood & gore."

And speaking of Jet, anyone else ever notice that people get hit with bigass rocks & rocks that are practically spikes all of the time, which must be going pretty damn fast to visibly knock them back, often in vulnerable areas like the abdomen or below the sternum, & only Jet dies from it?

At least the firebending kinda makes sense. If the explosion forces you away, you probably won't be burned as bad. Which is another strange thing. As much as the show tries to sell us this idea that the Fire Nation Army is ruthless, they really used very little lethal force or brutality. and the world would be lesser of its loss.

all the bending is greatly toned down not just earth bending. Lets remember we see water benders cut through steel and encase a guys head in ice. Its suspension of disbelief partly. Other is alot of the characters don't want to kill. But its implied enough that you can accept it.

I mean one where you use bending seriously can be done well. I dont think better though. To have something that dark and serious we wouldn't be able to have scenes like http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz271/Deathbywoodenplank/wangfire.gif

[POS Industries]

Title changed for greater accuracy.

Also how 'bout that new Legend of Korra sequel series? (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/07/21/legend-of-korra-the-creators-of-avatar-the-last-airbender-on-the-new-spinoff/)

You got your badass female Water Tribe avatar, Aang and Katara's son teaching her how to airbend, a dystopic steampunk metropolis for the setting, and no Shyamalamadingdong anywhere near it! I'm all sorts of optimistic on this one.

[Carade]

As long as she and Aang's son don't get together.

That would be really, reaaaaaallllly weird.

[POS Industries]

Well, since it's set about 80 years in the future, he'd also be really, reaaaaaallllly old.

My money's on her hooking up with Zuko and Mai's grandkid just for a double reach-around mindfucking of the shipper fandom.

[Aerozord]

Title changed for greater accuracy.

Also how 'bout that new Legend of Korra sequel series? (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/07/21/legend-of-korra-the-creators-of-avatar-the-last-airbender-on-the-new-spinoff/)

You got your badass female Water Tribe avatar, Aang and Katara's son teaching her how to airbend, a dystopic steampunk metropolis for the setting, and no Shyamalamadingdong anywhere near it! I'm all sorts of optimistic on this one.

I love how when asked about live action series their responce was consistantly "we have nothing to do with that, next question"

New series seems to be doing what it should, completely new storyline, same setting. Abit sad this means I wont be getting my sokka/toph buddy cop series. That would have been awesome
Sokka: "Just tell use when the new boomerang shipment is coming in"
Smuggler: "I told you I dont know anything"
Toph: "He's lying! I will totally go Melon Lord upside your head"

Also, steampunk city, airbender, anyone else thinking what I am?

[Premmy]

I love how when asked about live action series their responce was consistantly "we have nothing to do with that, next question"
I hear tell they REFUSED to have Movie-related stuff at a book signing they held at a comic shop.

New series seems to be doing what it should, completely new storyline, same setting.
I love the tone they're talking about for the new series

Abit sad this means I wont be getting my sokka/toph buddy cop series. That would have been awesome
Sokka: "Just tell use when the new boomerang shipment is coming in"
Smuggler: "I told you I dont know anything"
Toph: "He's lying! I will totally go Melon Lord upside your head"

Also, steampunk city, airbender, anyone else thinking what I am?

You missed the whole, Big city, plagued by crime, part, didn't ya?

[Aerozord]

yea but I find it unlikely toph and sokka will be involved. Though I suppose I can still hope

[Wigmund]

Hey King Bumi was Aang's best friend before he got frozen for a hundred years and that didn't stop him from being one of the biggest bad asses in the series. Pretty good for someone who's at least 112.

So Toph would probably be about 92 in the new series, oh yeah she should be there.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

There will be no Toph, only Iron Girl!

[Lithp]

For the bending & the Fire Nation, I was mostly making observations about things in the series that amused me. Fridge Logic.

For the other part of the conversation, if anyone wants to think I'm saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of what I'm actually saying & ignore any & all detailed explanations that disagree with the reinterpretation of reality, you can just go right ahead & do that.

[Aerozord]

Came across something and it made me realize just how http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/noekula-kittens.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/box_o_kittens1.jpg a mature book 3 would be.

Yes, I'd probably toss those under NSFW, if only for the insane amount of gore

[POS Industries]

Jesus fucking Christ, Aero, no posting pictures of giant cocks shooting lightning or topless fourteen year old girls on these forums. Ever. EVER.

Consider that a good solid warning and both pictures replaced by adorable kittens. Fuck.

[Aerozord]

I honestly didn't notice that when I first saw it, sorry.

guess we know what attracts your eye though

[POS Industries]

Actually, I had to have the Wang Fire thing pointed out to me when I first saw it, too.

I just happened to see all that shit forever ago.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Just read about the 'Legend of Korra' thing. Aang's son is going to teach her? That would probably be a bit awkward.

My money's on her hooking up with Zuko and Mai's grandkid just for a double reach-around mindfucking of the shipper fandom.

I figured something like this would be the result. Really, an shipping is probably a minor mindfuck, but that would be intense.

[Lithp]

Jesus fucking Christ, Aero, no posting pictures of giant cocks shooting lightning or topless fourteen year old girls on these forums. Ever. EVER.

Consider that a good solid warning and both pictures replaced by adorable kittens. Fuck.

What...

...The...

...FUCK...

Did I MISS?!

[Fusionman]

What...

...The...

...FUCK...

Did I MISS?!

Well Aero posted a picture of a "mature" Book 3. It happened to involve a giant cock shooting lightning and a topless Katara. POS got pissed and changed the pictures into pictures of kittens. So Lithp I'll send you the pics in a PM... Want them?

[akaSM]

Well Aero posted a picture of a "mature" Book 3. It happened to involve a giant cock shooting lightning and a topless Katara. POS got pissed and changed the pictures into pictures of kittens. So Lithp I'll send you the pics in a PM... Want them?

I saw the images and didn't notice anything wrong, at least wrong as in NSFW :raise:

[Loyal]

The problems were there. I'm not really sure how you guys managed to miss it.

I never saw very much of Avatar when it first came out, but this interests me nonetheless. I just hope there won't be too many references in the new stuff to the old stuff that leaves me scratching my head.

[Lithp]

Well Aero posted a picture of a "mature" Book 3. It happened to involve a giant cock shooting lightning and a topless Katara. POS got pissed and changed the pictures into pictures of kittens. So Lithp I'll send you the pics in a PM... Want them?

Hmm...nah, I think I'm good. Thanks anyway, though.