Pokemon Umbral Discussion 35: Under New Management!

[Menarker]

EDIT: The title is in reference to a potentially new leader in the RP, and NOT about GM status. HAIL AB!

Hey all! I decided to make a new thread since we're fast reaching our limit and I wanted to make it this time!

For your obligated pics, I decided to make this one "Pierce Theme" since we're fast approaching his side-quest. ^^



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http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a469/PokemonUmbral/PokemonUmbral11.jpg

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In the future, you'll surely get a Renny theme!

Charlotte... Most of her pokemons are male identified and thus are difficult to find good pics for... that and Bard seems to favor Yaoi which I hate searching for.

Impact and Matthias though... (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=4&p=001101)

Enough said. If they had pokemons, (Latios doesn't count since he is male specific) then maybe I would consider it. :3


Now, for what I promised! (Well, to a degree. I'm going to edit afterwards, once I organize things up some more. I'm so exhausted right now atm.)

SIGNUP! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37249)
FIRST DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37314)
SECOND DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37359)
THIRD DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37403)
FOURTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37444)
FIFTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37470)
SIXTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37519)
SEVENTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37545)
EIGHTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37602)
NINTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37643)
TENTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37654)
ELEVENTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37694)
TWELFTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37711)
THIRTEENTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37738)
FOURTEENTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37751)
FIFTEENTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37774)
SIXTEENTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37798)
SEVENTEENTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37829)
EIGHTEENTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37847)
NINETEENTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37912)
TWENTIETH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37928)
TWENTY-FIRST DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37944)
TWENTY-SECOND DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37970)
TWENTY-THIRD DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37987)
TWENTY-FOURTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38048)
TWENTY-FIFTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38075)
TWENTY-SIXTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38097)
TWENTY-SEVENTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38107)
TWENTY-EIGHTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38128)
TWENTY-NINTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38162)
THIRTIETH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38200)
THIRTY-FIRST DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38223)
THIRTY-SECOND DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38275)
THIRTY-THIRD DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38323)
THIRTY-THIRD DISCUSSION! AGAIN! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38354)
THIRTY-FOURTH DISCUSSION! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38435)



MISSION ONE PART ONE! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37265)
MISSION ONE PART TWO! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37347)
MISSION TWO PART ONE! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37442)
MISSION TWO PART TWO! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37611)
RENNY'S SIDEQUEST PART ONE! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37655)
RENNY'S SIDEQUEST PART TWO! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=37851)
MISSION THREE PART ONE! (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=38001)

[Bard The 5th LW]

There is no image within that swap text.

That makes me very angry.

[Menarker]

Try again. You'll have to click the links though. ^^; Sorry. I dunno why that happens to me.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Meh, not that impressive.

[Dracorion]

Riiiiiight.

Well, I'm going to go on ahead and post.

EDIT: Fuck yeah, Testament Drive!

[Dracorion]

Charlotte owned a Legendary?

Wait, wait, lemme guess.

It was Revenard! And it died. And the Revenard she's going to get now is actually Revenard's ghost!

[Bard The 5th LW]

She was referring to Latios.

Sher used it at the end of mission 2 before getting sick of it and giving it to Impact.

[Dracorion]

Well, I forgot all about Latios.

In my defense, no one knows what happened to that fucker after Mission 2. My guess it's head is currently hanging on Charlotte's wall.

And anyway, I was kinda hoping Revenard was the ghost of Charlotte's Legendary. Mostly because that'd glean some light on your sidequest.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I'm still wondering how to introduce that fucker.

That gives an idea or two though.

[Menarker]

Well, I forgot all about Latios.

In my defense, no one knows what happened to that fucker after Mission 2. My guess it's head is currently hanging on Charlotte's wall.


>_> Then all the goading that Charlotte did for Impact to accept Latios was in the end was for him to receive a useless headless corpse? =P

That would be one hell of an in-RP trolling.

[Dracorion]

Bah. Yeah, I forgot Impact got Latios.

I did say I forgot all about it. Including that Impact got it.

Still, my guess wasn't that far off. Except Latios' head is probably on Impact's wall instead.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Nah I like the idea of Charlotte decapitating it first.

Its probably right above the urn she put Phantomere's remains in.

[Dracorion]

I'm surprised Charlotte didn't take a piece of Crownlegs, actually. A piece of the first Pokeweapon ever would've been a nice souvenir, methinks.

[Bard The 5th LW]

She'll go back for it after the mission.

Charlotte: Pierce, let me borrow your knife. Heidi hold the car for a moment. I got business to take care of.

Charlotte's house has a lot of dead things.

[Dracorion]

Wait a minute, hold the phone.

Matthias isn't a NPC?

[Bard The 5th LW]

We are all surprised by this most shocking development.

[Menarker]

^^ Suprising, but still nice to see.

Anyhow, only one that is missing is Gem, but Impact is only doing a Rage Rocket on himself.

So we're pretty much ready to proceed. ^^

[DanteFalcon]

Matthias is totally a NPC. Which is why his heel-face-turn will catch you completely off guard.

Wait.......shit!

[Geminex]

Good morning, everybody! What a wonderful day it is, don't you think? Roses fill the air with the scent of sweet promises, bluebirds rejoice in the simplicity of life and song, and Paris prepares for a brand new day, a day of wonder and beauty and art!

And I...
I have the great privelege of knowing alll offff youuuu...
And for this, I am truly, truly thankful. Because we all know how rare true... friendship is. Trust and mutual understanding...
So great is my trust of you, in fact that I haven't even read the previous fourty posts! Because I am utterly certain, that there is no need, that we alll understand our roles in this great thing we are all part of...
And none of us would ever, ever even consider bringing about a change in this highly successful arrangement.

Not just out of great respect for this RP.
But out of self-preservation.
I truly pity the fool who thinks they can use my... charitable admission of weakness to their advantage. I truly, truly, do. Because even writing only half an hour a day, I can fuck each and every one of you over. Especially the new leader. If there should be one who ousts me.
"Should be" because, as we have already established, none of us, would ever do such a thing.
Isn't that right, Drac? Bard?

[Dracorion]

Hey AB, when are we going to pick a new leader?

[Bard The 5th LW]

I don't ever recall making any sort of truce/agreement with Geminex.

[Dracorion]

The closest thing I remember to a deal between you and Geminex was when he asked you "can you have Charlotte support Impact?" and you said "Okay!"

Also, imagine that this paragraph is actually me spouting some bullshit technicality as for why it's okay for me to try for leadership. Fun times are had.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I intend on having Charlotte support Impact, but I feel she can also be leader while supporting him.

http://image.blingee.com/images18/content/output/000/000/000/6dc/660239679_1432849.gif

Thats right, deal with it.

[Geminex]

Ok, I was gonna be all wrathful this post, but when people prefer Charlotte over Impact as leader, I'm doin' it wrong.

So I'm actually going to be sincere.
Leadership is mine, and if anyone but AB tries to take it from me, people will get hurt. And hell, even if AB goes "Impact's no longer leader", someone is going to regret it, and it certainly won't be me. Seriously, I have some degree of influence, and I am willing to use it for utterly petty purposes, be warned.

That does not mean that I am utterly unwilling to part with leadership. I mean honestly, what does it bring me? A chance to boss your characters around, which I can't use, because I need their trust? The privelege of having my character give orders he would probably be suggesting and taking credit for anyway?

I'm certainly willing to compromise. But I did invest rather a lot of time into making Impact leader, if I lose that, it will be voluntary, and in exchange for compensation of some sort. The many threats I made are only in the case of an involuntary transfer of leadership. If we come to a mutually acceptable agreement, what motivation do I have to screw anyone over?

I guess what I'm trying to say right now is...
Why don't you cut the crap and stop trying to oust me by force...
And instead, why don't we...
Make a deal?

[Bard The 5th LW]

In deal making mode.

Must be secretive about it.

Geminex, meet me in a dark alley.

[Dracorion]

Because ousting you by force is much more fun!

I mean, I love it when you throw a hissy fit like that.

Anyway, I bet it's also because A) none of us can think of anything you want that we could give you, or B) because we don't want to give you more than we already have, or C) both.

[Geminex]

Stop trying to cheat.

How about this.
I'll have Impact step back, all team members except for one, the leader, will be demoted to the rank of tactician. Our characters make the tactical suggestions we make OOC, all that shizz. I've explained it before.

In return...
In return, you, all of you, agree to act only in good faith when you suggest changes, or when AB makes changes and asks for feedback on them. You actually balance.
And we go by my standards.
Roughly, this means that if a single change greatly increases a character's potential in combat, by itself, it's out. If it has obvious potential to do so, this potential is curbed. If it majorly modifies a character's role, it's out. Classes and individual characters will remain at roughly the same power level as each other as they get stronger, though of course they'll specialize on different things. If one's for any reason more powerful than the others, they get nerfed, no matter how powerful, or not, their abilities may be. Either that, or the weak characters get powered up.

And this isn't just not objecting if I do it. This is actively doing it yourself.

If we implement this, there's a trial period. I observe your behavior, if it's acceptable, you agree to continue to act in this manner until the end of this RP, and then you do so. I can't really police it, so I would have to trust you to not screw me over. If you do screw me over, I use the first opportunity I get to do likewise.

Mind you, this is a suggestion. I'm not yet sure if the plot allows me to part with Impact's leadership, stuff is still very vague. And the deal would be refined.

But, under above or similar circumstances, I'd be hypothetically willing to back down.
Your collective thoughts?

[Dracorion]

How about this.
I'll have Impact step back, all team members except for one, the leader, will be demoted to the rank of tactician. Our characters make the tactical suggestions we make OOC, all that shizz. I've explained it before.

Demoted? Man, Matthias and Charlotte don't even have rank.

In return...
In return, you, all of you, agree to act only in good faith when you suggest changes, or when AB makes changes and asks for feedback on them. You actually balance.
And we go by my standards.
Roughly, this means that if a single change greatly increases a character's potential in combat, by itself, it's out. If it has obvious potential to do so, this potential is curbed. If it majorly modifies a character's role, it's out. Classes and individual characters will remain at roughly the same power level as each other as they get stronger, though of course they'll specialize on different things. If one's for any reason more powerful than the others, they get nerfed, no matter how powerful, or not, their abilities may be. Either that, or the weak characters get powered up.

And this isn't just not objecting if I do it. This is actively doing it yourself.

Oh come on. Name one time we've ever actually suggested anything overly broken.

Okay, so I've made a couple of suggestions that may have been a little powerful. Like back with Time Slip, but to be honest I got kinda crazy with that. And with Tsujimi I said it'd need depowering.

Anyway, usually when I propose something I'm always obsessing either about if it's too powerful or it's too weak. So I purposefully try to make my proposals a little too powerful (that is, balanced, but so that my doubts are on the "too powerful" side of the spectrum), so that we can then grade it down.

As for Menarker's item, you know I still have my doubts about that. But I've decided to wait and see.

If we implement this, there's a trial period. I observe your behavior, if it's acceptable, you agree to continue to act in this manner until the end of this RP, and then you do so. I can't really police it, so I would have to trust you to not screw me over. If you do screw me over, I use the first opportunity I get to do likewise.

Welp, I'm not going to comment on your blatant arrogance here, but okay.

Mind you, this is a suggestion. I'm not yet sure if the plot allows me to part with Impact's leadership, stuff is still very vague. And the deal would be refined.

Of course the plot will allow it, goddamn man. Also, that last bolded bit lights up every danger sense I've got, but frankly, that's become protocol when dealing with you.

But, under above or similar circumstances, I'd be hypothetically willing to back down.
Your collective thoughts?

Eh. I guess I'm tentatively willing to listen to more about this proposal.

Heh.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I am mostly waiting to use this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwF7n8WyOoU) clip.

Really, I don't care if I use it or Gem uses it or Drac uses it. Someone must alter the deal.

[Dracorion]

Dibs!

[Geminex]

Welp, I'm not going to comment on your blatant arrogance here, but okay.
I'm not sure whether an admission that I can't actually do anything to force you to abide by these terms counts as arrogant, but fair enough. Phrasing was unfortunate.

And by "refining" I meant "make them better for you". Everyone, I guess. But Drac in particular. Trust me. This is the chance of a lifetime I talked about.
Just need oooone little PM to AB...

And I can't watch the clip. What happens in it?

[Menarker]

Basically an extended parody on Darth Vader going "I altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further" to a rather irrate Lando. (Parody includes Darth Vader expecting Lando to wear a pretty dress, wear clown shoes and ride a unicycle.)

I didn't join in all that "making Charlotte leader" thing because I knew that even if you yourself aren't going to be around that much to be directing the various combat plans we make for each post, you're still going to expecting/hoping that in-character Impact is being viewed as the leader (or equilvilant of it). That and I don't care that much either way, although I'm keeping to my end of the bargin by having Renny being obedient and such.


In return...
In return, you, all of you, agree to act only in good faith when you suggest changes, or when AB makes changes and asks for feedback on them. You actually balance.
And we go by my standards.
Roughly, this means that if a single change greatly increases a character's potential in combat, by itself, it's out. If it has obvious potential to do so, this potential is curbed. If it majorly modifies a character's role, it's out. Classes and individual characters will remain at roughly the same power level as each other as they get stronger, though of course they'll specialize on different things. If one's for any reason more powerful than the others, they get nerfed, no matter how powerful, or not, their abilities may be. Either that, or the weak characters get powered up.

I especially do not agree with this. Character roles are going to change drastically over time as people get upgrades or change how their character interacts. Let's take Pierce. At the moment, he's a trainer, not much of a fighter (at least compared to Slayers and Pokebrids). Now if he goes demon or slayer, then his role is going to change drastically because he has the option of partaking in battle more directly, using more items if he's a slayer and whatnot. Or about Renny having that move in the future which attacks multiple times when his allies are weak or knocked out? That's a bit of a change from his current support style to actually having a powerful (although situational) attack. Plus, we might have intentions about how they develop and grow.

Also, some class levels seem more powerful than other classes at the same point, but weaker than the same compared classes at other levels as a manner of making each class stand out at certain times, while still giving each one their powers and utility.
I'm all for discussion, of course. But the particular way you describe how the limits are GOING to be? Too much of a broad stroke of a brush.

[Dracorion]

I'm not sure whether an admission that I can't actually do anything to force you to abide by these terms counts as arrogant, but fair enough. Phrasing was unfortunate.

Actually, my quoting was imprecise. I was responding to the first part of that paragraph.

Namely the part where suddenly you're in charge of supervising us, like we really would break the deal after we've already agreed to it. (Shut up, my attempts don't count. Those were bullshit and we both know it.)

Frankly, this isn't quite what I mean to say, but it's much the nicest way to say it. And I think it's adequate enough.

And by "refining" I meant "make them better for you". Everyone, I guess. But Drac in particular. Trust me. This is the chance of a lifetime I talked about.
Just need oooone little PM to AB...

And yet somehow it feels like I'm not getting that good a deal.

Mostly? I don't like being forced to do something like that. Sure, you wouldn't go overboard, but it still rubs me the wrong way. If I had the freedom, I would be as fair as I possibly could be and I'd still accept your suggestions.

But you've pretty much tied my hands now, haven't you? Sure, there's another choice, but it's not really a choice, is it?

Okay, so maybe I'm being a bit too confrontational in this post, I apologize for that.


Also, what in hell are you getting from AB for this?

I didn't join in all that "making Charlotte leader" thing because I knew that even if you yourself aren't going to be around that much to be directing the various combat plans we make for each post, you're still going to expecting/hoping that in-character Impact is being viewed as the leader (or equilvilant of it). That and I don't care that much either way, although I'm keeping to my end of the bargin by having Renny being obedient and such.

Traitor!

I especially do not agree with this. Character roles are going to change drastically over time as people get upgrades or change how their character interacts. Let's take Pierce. At the moment, he's a trainer, not much of a fighter (at least compared to Slayers and Pokebrids). Now if he goes demon or slayer, then his role is going to change drastically because he has the option of partaking in battle more directly, using more items if he's a slayer and whatnot. Or about Renny having that move in the future which attacks multiple times when his allies are weak or knocked out? That's a bit of a change from his current support style to actually having a powerful (although situational) attack. Plus, we might have intentions about how they develop and grow.

That's one of the things that needs to be ironed out, really.

It should be that you can't, say... make Renny into an offensive powerhouse as well as a defensive wall.

[Menarker]

That's one of the things that needs to be ironed out, really.

It should be that you can't, say... make Renny into an offensive powerhouse as well as a defensive wall.

Really, I think that should be left up to the player. The moves themselves, yes, that can be worked on to ensure relative fairness. But how much offense or defense someone works up into? That should be up to the player. Let's say that Pierce starts out pretty offensively, and suddenly someone close to him dies. Then he might work on defense some more as a sort of character development/resolve to help save people.

Basically, for every level of upgrades and for every skill we earn (since there is a limit on how many we can have), we are constantly making a choice of we want to go more offense or more defense/support. If someone decides to go all offense all the way, he/she is going to be a powerhouse to be reckoned with. If someone intends to be defensive all the way, he/she is going to be a mighty foothold that few can ever penetrate! If someone wants to be the jack of all trades, then he/she will perhaps find a purpose no matter where he/she goes.
Basically, each option is a choice on whether to build on a strength or try to build on a weakness. However, at the same time, someone could be building on their strength thus taking advantage of your weakness, or tower even higher than what your strength was before.

For your example, Renny COULD try to be a bit of a powerhouse later on, but since he starts on that late, he won't be as consistantly good a powerhouse as Impact or Pierce if they maintained their path. Plus, at the same time, if he tries going offensive, then his supportive skills will not climb any higher even though the difficulty of the foes are sure to increase.

But yes, someone who branches out should not be better/equal in a field than someone who specialized in that skill more than he did.

[Astral Harmony]

Geminex isn't really getting anything out of me for anything. I basically told him who he's getting on his side. Now, how they're going to react to him or how he's going to use them will ultimately be determined by a tug of war between how Impact develops, what Geminex wants and a plotline that will not be denied and will not be revealed until due time has passed.

I dunno about you, but if I was in his spot, I probably wouldn't even want the role of world conqueror. Sure, he's got all these kickass allies, but he's going to have the worst time imaginable keeping hold of everything he's won. There's just going to be so many things out to kill him, and I haven't even introduced the biggest nemesis yet.

Oh, and here's the sprite comic. The joke is a little used already, but I do hope it brings a smile to your collective faces.

http://a.imageshack.us/img826/9117/anticsintheagency1letsh.png

[Menarker]

0.o

Well, it's an interesting first comic for sure...

The PATCA hallways are decorated like that? What sort of no standard organization are we running here?

EDIT: Interesting to note that Matthias isn't on that list. Does he not count as a male anymore? Or a PC for that matter?

[Bard The 5th LW]

Matt is much to mysterious for a relationship.

They didn't even think about him because he is so mysterious.

[Dracorion]

But yes, someone who branches out should not be better/equal in a field than someone who specialized in that skill more than he did.

Yes, this is exactly what I meant. I have no idea why in hell you wrote all that other crap.

Geminex isn't really getting anything out of me for anything. I basically told him who he's getting on his side. Now, how they're going to react to him or how he's going to use them will ultimately be determined by a tug of war between how Impact develops, what Geminex wants and a plotline that will not be denied and will not be revealed until due time has passed.

Do we get to know who he's getting on his side?

As for that bolded part... wanna bet?

I dunno about you, but if I was in his spot, I probably wouldn't even want the role of world conqueror. Sure, he's got all these kickass allies, but he's going to have the worst time imaginable keeping hold of everything he's won. There's just going to be so many things out to kill him, and I haven't even introduced the biggest nemesis yet.

Impact's biggest nemesis has to be Pierce. There is no other option. The position for second biggest nemesis is wide open, though. Throw your world-eating abomination there if you want.

comic

Pierce may be adventurous, sure, but how can Lola hope to match up to Chizuru if she can't be adventurous herself?

Ooooohhh, burn!

[Menarker]

But yes, someone who branches out should not be better/equal in a field than someone who specialized in that skill more than he did.
Yes, this is exactly what I meant. I have no idea why in hell you wrote all that other crap.



I said all that because your statement earlier did not seem like that was what you meant at all.

It should be that you can't, say... make Renny into an offensive powerhouse as well as a defensive wall.

You kinda made it sound like Renny (or anyone else) had no right attempting to become offensively strong if they were already considered defensively strong. I only clarified it so that anyone had the right to do so, if he invested his level-up rewards specifically for that as opposed to boosting his support or what not.

[Dracorion]

Eh, I was pressed for time when I was writing it. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

[Menarker]

That's ok. Not a big deal, now that we got that little bit straighten out.

Also, just for everyone's info, I'll be mysteriously absent around Tuesday for about 4-5 days (most of the days). I'll be on vacation traveling to the States, on my own personal vacation. I'll have my laptop with me to check things at night, much like Gem is doing now, but otherwise, don't expect me to post as frequently as I have.

[Dracorion]

Are you giving me the perfect window of opportunity to stage my coup?

[Menarker]

I'm not going to be absent for THAT long at a time. You can still expect a post at least once or twice a day. More so if you respond ASAP to what I say and I respond back. ^^;

But why does my presence prevent a Coup in the first place? Unless you're planning on killing off Renny or something... >_> But I imagine that would backfire tragically...

[Dracorion]

Not unless it looks like an accident.

Or, perhaps, a certain player-controlled NPC who is not at all related to Pierce is the one that kills him.

[Geminex]

Ok, what I meant by the whole "Can't change roles" thing was less that everyone has to specialize on one UND PRECISELY VUN role, and more that, if someone's active in one role, and has been specialized on that one role, an ability that, by itself, makes them equally viable in an utterly different role, would be out. Renny's "Drink from the pain of his allies" ability would be perfectly acceptable, since it'd make him more offensive, but only in a defensive context.

Also, nice comic.

[Astral Harmony]

Sorry for not including Matthias in the comic, Dante. I can't for the life of me think of why I messed up there.

Today was kind of a shitty day for me. The day before was my duty day and despite finding a very nice place to sleep, I still lacked sufficient time for rest.

Then again, I also stayed up way too late to play h-games and finally watch Cosplay Complex that night. I've gotta get a schedule notebook or something.

I'll begin work on the RP post tomorrow. Hell, maybe my crazy ass will have it done the same night since I don't really intend to create any new enemies.

[Dracorion]

Ok, what I meant by the whole "Can't change roles" thing was less that everyone has to specialize on one UND PRECISELY VUN role, and more that, if someone's active in one role, and has been specialized on that one role, an ability that, by itself, makes them equally viable in an utterly different role, would be out. Renny's "Drink from the pain of his allies" ability would be perfectly acceptable, since it'd make him more offensive, but only in a defensive context.

Greeeaaaattt.

What about everything else?

You know, if I were really paranoid, I'd say you were purposefully trying to stall the discussion so that we never actually do anything about it. But I'm not, I'm really really not.

Seriously, I'm not. You probably just didn't have time to address everything with your busy schedule.

Anyway, yet another concern I have: I don't believe you'd give up leadership unless you were keeping the control you've gained, which is something you neglected to mention.

[DanteFalcon]

Honestly didn't even bother me. I enjoyed the comic regardless.

[Menarker]

^^ I just had a weird idea that every one of us should write a character sheet of our respective characters using TVtropes.

Like:

Renny Tresserhorn:
Cute Shotaro Boy (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CuteShotaroBoy) Although in due time his looks is likely to change with age to be closer to a Bishonen (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Bishonen).
Older Than They Look (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyLook)
Oyaji Kid (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OyajiKid)
Cheerful Child (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CheerfulChild)
Kid Hero (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KidHero)
Wise Beyond Their Years (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WiseBeyondTheirYears)
Little Professor Dialog (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LittleProfessorDialog)
Improbable Age (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ImprobableAge)
For Happiness (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForHappiness)
Power of Friendship (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThePowerOfFriendship?from=Main.PowerOfFriendship)
Meaningful Name (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MeaningfulName) (Renny means "Small and Mighty" in Gaelic.)
Combat Medic (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CombatMedic)
Barrier Warrior (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BarrierWarrior) (To an extent.)
The Beastmaster (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheBeastmaster)
Empathy Pet (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EmpathyPet)
Friend to all Living Things (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FriendToAllLivingThings)
Lawful Good (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LawfulGood) (More focus on Good than Law.)
Child Prodigy (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChildProdigy)
Just a Kid (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JustAKid)
The Pornomancer (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThePornomancer)(Being the only guy in an otherwise large all-female party in mission 2, repeated Sexy Party during his sidequest, repeated naked Serene Blessing, Prosperous Gifts, his house party including sleeping with several ladies... he is the middleman to about half the in-character fanservice!)
The Messiah (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheMessiah)
The Chick (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheChick)/The Hero (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheHero)
The Heart (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheHeart)
Magnetic Hero (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagneticHero) (At least in terms of trust and such)
One True Pairing (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneTruePairing) (Lola, to the point of his pending relationship with her being the topic of MANY Running Gags (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RunningGag). Theorized to even be an example of Single Target Sexuality (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SingleTargetSexuality).)

Naturally, there are sure to be plenty more, but this is about good for now, plus there are others that are sure to come with specific character development.

[Geminex]

Anyway, yet another concern I have: I don't believe you'd give up leadership unless you were keeping the control you've gained, which is something you neglected to mention.

Well yeah, I never said I'd give up control. It would, in fact, be very stupid for me to give up control!

I'm willing to give up the right to have my character boss all of your characters around and be generally unpleasant to them without risking retribution. I'd outline how you'd benefit from this, but I'm sure you've already considered, weighted and made a numerated list of, arguments against Impact's leadership. So yeah, I'm offering to give in to all those arguments in return for a balanced RP where I don't have to watch out for a few upgrades screwing the combat system over.

But anyway, gotta go.

[Dracorion]

No, see you'd be giving up Impact's control over our characters and replacing it with you, Geminex, having control over us, the players directly.

[Bard The 5th LW]

TV tropes bios? I've heard enough!

I have gained control over TV Tropes. I am no longer ensnared by its destructive time destroying grip!

So a bio for Charlotte will probably be written!

[Dracorion]

There's not a chance in hell I'm going to scour through a metric fuckton of TVTropes articles to make up a list for Pierce or Sophia or any other of my characters.

Not a chance in hell.

[Menarker]

Oh, it's not THAT hard. There are specific indexes for characterization tropes, an index for morality, for idealism, and for military/combat roles. That in itself is sure to get you a quite a bit. Ah well, your choice.

*Found the "Ambition is Evil" one for Impact*

Looking forward to seeing what Bard pulls out for Charlotte, although I'm completely expecting the "Token Evil Teammate" one.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Alright, here are some tropes around Charlotte. Didn't search to hard though.

A God Am I (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AGodAmI): She is in possession of Arceus. Not quite a God Complex yet though.

Blood Knight (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BloodKnight): She is even willing to kill Children if they put up a good fight. She doesn't like it when they fight back though.

Christmas Cake (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChristmasCake): Being 30, she is one of the older members of PATCA. She doesn't really seek Romance though.

Evil Poacher (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilPoacher): She likes to kill rare things and take trophies.

Fragile Speedster (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FragileSpeedster): Her pokemon don't really focus on Defense. Offense and Speed are more what she specializes with.

Fan Preferred Couple (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanPreferredCouple): With Shannon.

Kick the Dog (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KickTheDog): She shot Moon on the first mission. She also kicks Spitz on several occasions.

Kill 'em All (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KillEmAll): Although she usually isn't allowed.

Neutral Evil: She works with a law enforcement group, but she doesn't really care what happens as long as she benefits.

Theme Naming (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThemeNaming): All of her Canine Pokemon are named after the dogs in 'Call of The Wild.' Her Aerodactyl is also named after John Hammond from Jurassic Park.

Token Evil Teammate (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TokenEvilTeammate): She is the only outright evil member of the team, with the possible exception of Impact. She is less subtle though, and commonly complains that she doesn't get to kill enough.

[Dracorion]

Kick the Dog (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KickTheDog): She shot Moon on the first mission. She also kicks Spitz on several occasions.

Not to mention if she goes Slayer I proposed a Signature Technique just like that! Well, except it was called "Kick The Puppy".

Hell, even if she doesn't go Slayer, she could still use it a co-op, except changing the effect. Something like kicking one of her pokemon and lowering their defense and special defense by two levels in exchange for raising the attack, special attack and speed by four or six levels.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Now I have this image in my head of Charlotte punting Spitz like a football at an enemy.

I was going to put Morality Pet for Buck, but then I figured that he doesn't do much to make her a better person.

[Menarker]

I was going to put Morality Pet for Buck, but then I figured that he doesn't do much to make her a better person.

He sure doesn't. ^^'

Out of curiousity, are you going to give Arceus a theme name too?

[Bard The 5th LW]

Probably not.

Charlotte probably wouldn't bother naming a legendary. They are pretty unique already.

[Menarker]

Fair enough.

For a moment, I thought there was another trope for Charlotte since she is the only one who actually give names to her pokemons, even though she treats them like weapons. The closest trope I know (I call it Vera (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ICallItVera)) is much too heartwarming as opposed to Charlotte being pretty insympathic and mean to them (as well as everyone else).

[Dracorion]

Okay, fine. But now you have to build me a time machine so I can get back these last few hours of my life, Menarker. You have three seconds for it to show up right in front of me.

Pierce:

- Action Hero (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ActionHero)

- Angst What Angst (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AngstWhatAngst)

- Badass (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Badass)

- Be All My Sins Remembered (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeAllMySinsRemembered)

- Berserk Button (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BerserkButton)

- Big Brother Instinct (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigBrotherInstinct): Even though Pierce is younger than Sam.

- Break The Badass (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BreakTheBadass): his sidequest.

- Brother Sister Incest (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrotherSisterIncest): I like to freak out AB with this.

- Cool Big Sis (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CoolBigSis)

- Determinator (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Determinator)

- Dirty Business (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DirtyBusiness)

- Good Flaws Bad Flaws (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoodFlawsBadFlaws)

- Heroic Resolve (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeroicResolve)

- Heroic Self Deprecation (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeroicSelfDeprecation)

- Ho Yay (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HoYay): Pierce and Tyranitar, anyone? It's about to get worse soon too, what with Tyranitar's evolution coming up.

- Kicking Ass And Taking Names (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KickingAssAndTakingNames)

- My Sister Is Off Limits (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MySisterIsOffLimits): Okay, Pierce doesn't actually keep the guys off his sister, but he reserves to right to subject any man Sam is serious about to a battery of tests.

- Neutral Good (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeutralGood)

- One Man Army (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneManArmy)

- The Champion (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheChampion): to Sam, and Chizuru once they get closer.

- The Corruptible (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCorruptible)

- The Hero (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheHero)

- The Lancer (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheLancer)

- Traintop Battle (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TraintopBattle): PIERCE VS IMPACT ON TOP OF LEXHUR. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoubleEntendre)

- Underestimating The Badass (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnderestimatingBadassery): his sidequest.

- Unstoppable Rage (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnstoppableRage)



Sophia:

- Badass Bookworm (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BadassBookworm)

- Heroic Self Deprecation (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeroicSelfDeprecation)

- Hot Scientist (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HotScientist)

- Lawful Good (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LawfulGood)

- Science Hero (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScienceHero)

- Sesquipidalian Loquaciousness (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SesquipedalianLoquaciousness)

- The Glasses Come Off (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheGlassesComeOff)

- Wrench Wench (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WrenchWench)

Sam:

- Big Brother Instinct (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigBrotherInstinct): For Pierce! Except she's a girl.

- Christmas Cake (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChristmasCake)

- Mama Bear (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TeamMom)

- Neutral Good (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeutralGood)

- Team Mom (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TeamMom)

- Promotion To Parent (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PromotionToParent)

Elizabeth:

- Anything That Moves (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AnythingThatMoves)

- Buxom Is Better (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BuxomIsBetter)

- Chaotic Good (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChaoticGood): Bordering on Chaotic Neutral.

- Heel Face Turn (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeelFaceTurn)

- Hello Nurse (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HelloNurse)

- Hot As Hell (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HotAsHell): Well, she's not really the devil, but the fact is she's probably going to make it her life mission to corrupt Renny.

- Les Yay (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HoYay?from=Main.LesYay)

- Ms Fanservice (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MsFanservice)

- Rich Bitch (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RichBitch)

- The Pornomancer (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThePornomancer)

- Tomboy Princess (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TomboyPrincess)

- Wrench Wench (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WrenchWench)

[DanteFalcon]

No way am I doing this.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Okay, fine. But now you have to build me a time machine so I can get back these last few hours of my life, Menarker. You have three seconds for it to show up right in front of me.

You're weak Drac. Weak.

[Menarker]

Nice to see Drac. (You have Dialaga for your time needs! You do it yourself!)

However, I do think that Pierce qualifies for "The Lancer (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheLancer)" and a dash of The Hero too.

Nice to see the bios for your other characters too, although I do admit I was shocked to see you intend to have Elizabeth attempt to corrupt Renny.

EDIT: Also? I think Pierce might fit THIS one. "Knight Templar Big Brother (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightTemplarBigBrother)"

[Astral Harmony]

After some good fun playing Overlord 2, I'll get to work on the post.

[Geminex]

No, see you'd be giving up Impact's control over our characters and replacing it with you, Geminex, having control over us, the players directly.

Oh god no. Seriously, controling you guys? Takes tiiiime. And effort. And is more trouble than its worth. I'll retain Impact's MUST HAVE CONTROL aspect, and I'll continue manipulating your characters (if I can), I'll just surrender one of the prime methods of control, actual, official, leadership, in exchange for guaranteed balance.

Mind you, if we go with the deal I proposed... who'd be "official" leader? I'd prefer to decide that before we actually seal everything.

[Astral Harmony]

Official leader would probably be Charlotte. And I dare anyone to try and disagree. After all, it's Charlotte. She's got Arceus. She's got a shotgun. She's got attitude. She's most likely got warrants.

I think she can even shift the plot if she really tries. God knows she did it in the first mission.

[Dracorion]

Well Menarker, I secretly added another trope to my list. I won't tell you which character it's about or which it is, because it's relevant for the future that you not know, but not particularly damaging if you figure it out. Also, I'll add The Lancer and The Hero (as well as Berserk Button which I forgot) to Pierce's list, but not Knight Templar Big Brother. He's not that protective.

Oh god no. Seriously, controling you guys? Takes tiiiime. And effort. And is more trouble than its worth. I'll retain Impact's MUST HAVE CONTROL aspect, and I'll continue manipulating your characters (if I can), I'll just surrender one of the prime methods of control, actual, official, leadership, in exchange for guaranteed balance.

See, the side effect would be that, while you wouldn't have complete control, you'd be establishing a mentality of "I'm right and you're wrong, and if you wanna do anything you gotta run it by me". Which is most definitely a start.

Or maybe I'm just being paranoid. Though just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!

Also, that bolded bit? I notice I am confused about that.

Mind you, if we go with the deal I proposed... who'd be "official" leader? I'd prefer to decide that before we actually seal everything.

Official leader would probably be Charlotte. And I dare anyone to try and disagree. After all, it's Charlotte. She's got Arceus. She's got a shotgun. She's got attitude. She's most likely got warrants.

I vote for Charlotte because it'd be hilarious seeing if AB can seriously justify making her leader.

Of course, if AB can't justify it, it'd come down to Pierce or Renny. Unless Menarker wants to step down.

I think she can even shift the plot if she really tries. God knows she did it in the first mission.

And now you've just made this a contest of who can upset the plot the most.

Way to fail, AB.

[Geminex]

you'd be establishing a mentality of "I'm right and you're wrong, and if you wanna do anything you gotta run it by me

I don't even want to have that much influence on the process. I want to know that I can forget about balancing altogether, because all of you are taking care of that for me. Though admittedly, I'm not sure how well that would work.

Though even if I participated in discussions as well, it wouldn't be so much "I'm always right". The way I see it, I'd be setting up a few guidelines now, what goes and what doesn't, we'd all agree to abide by those guidelines. There ends my 'power'. I couldn't even force you to abide by said guidelines! Hence the element of trust that's present. I really couldn't use this agreement to get dictatorial, even if I wanted to.

Also, that bolded bit? I notice I am confused about that.
I'm downplaying my skills to lull you into a false sense of security, duh.

And, y'know. I find myself agreeing with AB, sadly enough. I mean, it's rather humiliating, being commanded by Charlotte. But honestly, Renny's even more humiliating. And Pierce... yeah, no. That... really wouldn't work. In fact, the deal would probably fall flat under those circumstances. Matt's too anonymous.

So make it Charlotte. She's predictable enough that we can all influence her to some degree, and, admit it, she's probably the most fun character there is right now. Impact is nice and dramatic as a leader, and Pierce is perfectly thematic, but...
I think, right here, right now, Charlotte's the most enjoyable choice there is. Seriously, it'll be hilarious..

[Menarker]

I vote for Charlotte because it'd be hilarious seeing if AB can seriously justify making her leader.

Of course, if AB can't justify it, it'd come down to Pierce or Renny. Unless Menarker wants to step down.


I won't step down, but I'm not exactly pushing people out of my way to step up. If Renny is called in-character by anyone like Rayleen or his peers to lead, he'd do his very best. If not, Renny is perfectly fine not being in a leader role if things are successful and people are more or less happy and healthy. Even if I the player out-of-character, am adamant that he'd be a fairly good leader.

Although, you realize that if we chose Matthias to be leader, we'd practically force him out of anonymity. We'd figure what exactly he does or does not do in a leadership role. >_> Of course, there is nothing that is stopping him from just declining the role in the first place. Although from his reaction, we would find out if he has any ambition whatsoever. ^,^

[DanteFalcon]

Matthias would decline the role. In character he's only a leader if he believes he's the only one competent enough to do it. Clearly not the case thus he'd refuse.

[Menarker]

>_> Does Matthias truly believe that Charlotte is suitable for the role of leader though? If Impact isn't being leader, and Pierce and Renny somehow aren't, and it fell to Matthias or Charlotte, does he believe that Charlotte is "competent enough to do it"? I mean, her tendencies aren't exactly a secret either!

[Bard The 5th LW]

I totally fucking vote Charlotte.

Official leader would probably be Charlotte. And I dare anyone to try and disagree. After all, it's Charlotte. She's got Arceus. She's got a shotgun. She's got attitude. She's most likely got warrants.


Fuck yeah.

[Dracorion]

I don't even want to have that much influence on the process. I want to know that I can forget about balancing altogether, because all of you are taking care of that for me. Though admittedly, I'm not sure how well that would work.

Though even if I participated in discussions as well, it wouldn't be so much "I'm always right". The way I see it, I'd be setting up a few guidelines now, what goes and what doesn't, we'd all agree to abide by those guidelines. There ends my 'power'. I couldn't even force you to abide by said guidelines! Hence the element of trust that's present. I really couldn't use this agreement to get dictatorial, even if I wanted to.

Sigh. (Suck it, Bard!)

Fine. Okay, you're right. This time.

I'm downplaying my skills to lull you into a false sense of security, duh.

I was being subtle.

And, y'know. I find myself agreeing with AB, sadly enough. I mean, it's rather humiliating, being commanded by Charlotte. But honestly, Renny's even more humiliating. And Pierce... yeah, no. That... really wouldn't work. In fact, the deal would probably fall flat under those circumstances. Matt's too anonymous.

Oh come on! We don't have to do it yet, you know. It could be after Pierce's sidequest. He'll be a much better candidate then.

You can't accuse me of being biased against Impact because of his player if you're being biased against Pierce because of his player!

Unless you honestly think Pierce himself wouldn't be a good leader, in which case I'd have to slap you.

So make it Charlotte. She's predictable enough that we can all influence her to some degree, and, admit it, she's probably the most fun character there is right now. Impact is nice and dramatic as a leader, and Pierce is perfectly thematic, but...
I think, right here, right now, Charlotte's the most enjoyable choice there is. Seriously, it'll be hilarious...

Phbbtt. The only order she'd give is "Stay out of my way. Other than that, do whatever you want."

And also "That one is mine. Kill it and I kill you."

[Bard The 5th LW]

Sigh. (Suck it, Bard!)

Also other stuff

Drac.

Drac.

You know what you are?

You're just a pest.

Like on of these spiders crawling around my desktop.

All it takes is one instance of me bringing down my fist, and bang, your a smear on my counter. Quickly removed.

And no one will ever care.

[Dracorion]

Is that a challenge?

Do it, I dare you.

It is so on, man.

Also, what kinda backcountry hole are you living in that you have spiders crawling around your desktop? Or is that a requisite to be a basement recluse?

[Astral Harmony]

RP post shall be done tonight. A certain psychic girl wants a rematch.

[Menarker]

Oh good lord, if it's Moera, I swear we'll have to burn every corpse just like Resident Evil zombies. I mean, she was beheaded! Decapicated!

>_> Tsubasa is probably going to be annoyed when she hears about this. First, she failed to assassinate Faynoc because of Moera, and if Moera is still alive, that means she failed to kill her off for good. >_<

[Astral Harmony]

Woof. Post done. Lemme know how much I screwed up.

[Dracorion]

So I guess we should revive Tyranitar so we can get rid of lightning splash?

And I'm not going to try to hide my large amounts of glee at Menarker's predicament right now.

No, seriously AB, how many times are we going to have to kill Moera? Because Pierce may be fine with pulverizing her body if it stops her from coming back. Alternatively, Charlotte could feed her to her pooches.

Hell, Moera's even worse now! She's Darth freakin' Vader, man!

Anyway, I say we toss a Rage Rocket at Pierce for some Chizuru goodness.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Well Charlotte's pissed.

They denied her the right of a kill. A kill on a freaking mew pokebrid. How many people can claim that? This is why she hates doctors. Well at least now she can claim to have killed the same person twice.

In case it wasn't clear, Charlotte considers it her kill. She doesn't care if Shizuka beheaded her or not.

[Menarker]

And I'm not going to try to hide my large amounts of glee at Menarker's predicament right now.

Well Charlotte's pissed.

They denied her the right of a kill. A kill on a freaking mew pokebrid. How many people can claim that? This is why she hates doctors. Well at least now she can claim to have killed the same person twice.

In case it wasn't clear, Charlotte considers it her kill. She doesn't care if Shizuka beheaded her or not.

:argh:

Renny is incredible pissed by this turn of events. (And yes, so am I!)

Togekiss should not be so easy to dominate. Life-long friendship and all that!

THIS IS PERSONAL!

>_> And this happened at the worst time too, since I'm leaving for my vacation tomorrow early early morning.


Meanwhile, this is the fighting data that Togekiss has, so you know what moves it uses.

Togekiss (Male) *Serene Grace* (Air Slash has 60% chance of flinching hit foe)
[Item: Staunch Supporter's Bandanna]
Air Slash / Aura Sphere
Heat Wave / Follow Me
Helping Hand / Roost
HMs: Fly, Defog, Rock Smash, Flash


Mind you, this is going to bring up a creepy precedent. Because of the nature of foes coming back from the dead when experimented on, someone might bring up the idea of securing/capturing every scientifically experimented corpse or potentially powerful being and bringing it to PATCA for "containment". It's like we'd have a Area 51 for the "Horror Ward" of corpses that are only there because we can't leave them elsewhere to be recovered...


AB, I'm confused with Moera's Domination technique...
- Signature Technique: Mind Corruption ~ 50/100 Rage. Charms the target to fight for her. The target can be convinced to return with 50% success, but loses its action during that turn.

Does this mean that Togekiss loses its action if it works? Or Renny has to forfeit his actions to attempt to retrieve him? Or is it a one action thing and Renny can still attempt to use both his actions on recalling him back?


HOLD ON! Why is Kingdra pokebrid back in action and attacking us? It was knocked out the previous turn before!

Is it safe to assume that Moera doesn't have access to her Mew Pokebrid moves since it got a whole new bunch of ruin-power moves? (Cost of experimentation/revival)



EDIT: An idea occured to me. Now that the Betas are unleashed, if we try again more successfully to knock out Mio, then they should run wild, since apparently the Ruin Harmonic she is using is the only reason why they are attacking in a cohesive manner. Otherwise, they would run wild, attacking anything. Yes, some might still attack PATCA, but others would attack each other, the remainer of Faynoc's forces, and some might just "harmlessly" destroy property instead of people.

[Dracorion]

HOLD ON! Why is Kingdra pokebrid back in action and attacking us? It was knocked out the previous turn before!

Yeah, I forgot that.

Well, at least this means Palkia didn't take any damage!

EDIT: An idea occured to me. Now that the Betas are unleashed, if we try again more successfully to knock out Mio, then they should run wild, since apparently the Ruin Harmonic she is using is the only reason why they are attacking in a cohesive manner. Otherwise, they would run wild, attacking anything. Yes, some might still attack PATCA, but others would attack each other, the remainer of Faynoc's forces, and some might just "harmlessly" destroy property instead of people.

Or, or!

They could "not-so-harmlessly" destroy people. I'm not sure they'd even attack each other, really. You don't see Ruin Pokemon tearing each other up even when there's no one to control them. Then again, these dudes are imperfect, so maybe.

Also, I can't believe you, of all people, would suggest loosing a bunch of rabid animals. Even against the Harbingers, considering the Betas would disembowel those fuckers and crap on the remains.

Eh, priority should still be taking out Miyo. And then Moera, that goddamn bitch.

And, since I'm feeling extra evil, sure, we can kill Miyo to make the Betas run wild. Except, because it's Menarker's idea, Renny has to be the one to suggest it in-game. Any of the rest of us could, sure, but that wouldn't be nearly as much fun.

Of course, if Renny doesn't say anything we go on with our business.

[Menarker]

Also, I can't believe you, of all people, would suggest loosing a bunch of rabid animals.

Dude, I roleplay as Renny, but I'm not Renny! I'm more than capable of coming up with evil/selfish suggestions. ^,^

That said, Togekiss being dominated is a troublesome thing. Roleplaying wise, Renny would be most adamant against anyone ordering Lexhur to fire his laser when Togekiss (or anyone on our side for that matter) is in the area!

Doesn't help that with Togekiss dominated and Shaymin knocked out, we lost most of our ability to deal with impeding fogs...

EDIT: As for your comment on the Betas... it is curious that they were completely compliant and unresponsive in the last round. I mean they were in those vans all along, and they didn't even stir, never mind trying to break out of the car and cause needless rampage...

AB: Another question?
- Lexhur: Charging Rage. Rage at the end of this turn is 400.
You said that Lexhur gains rage at the beginning of the turn. Does this mean that during this turn, he'll have 500 or is 400 the amount we have to spend now? I was thinking it was 400...

[Dracorion]

Dude, I roleplay as Renny, but I'm not Renny! I'm more than capable of coming up with evil/selfish suggestions. ^,^

Well, try and channel that into some OOCness when you're having Renny suggest that in-RP.

That said, Togekiss being dominated is a troublesome thing. Roleplaying wise, Renny would be most adamant against anyone ordering Lexhur to fire his laser when Togekiss (or anyone on our side for that matter) is in the area!

You're kidding me right?

Fuck Renny, it's not our fault Moera and Faynoc are cheating bitches. Well center it on the Millenium Battlebot, if that makes you feel better.

Alternatively, we could waste some attacks to knock out Togekiss. It would be slightly less painful than a faceful of laser, at least.

Doesn't help that with Togekiss dominated and Shaymin knocked out, we lost most of our ability to deal with impeding fogs...

Relax. We can revive Shaymin or have someone else use a couple of flying-tipe attacks.

If we can spare Wilhelmina, that's one flying-type attack.

Or, since in restrospect I doubt Pierce's Signature Sequence will work on the Betas, he can spend some Rage to have Skarmory Divide a Defog. Then again, we want Tyranitar to remove the lightning-splash and Palkia is just too awesome.

Oh, and Moon and Shannon could use their Moonbeam Disco.

[Menarker]

What I'm thinking we should do is have Rachel spam Rage Rockets on Lexhur (using her 50 rage as well) to make him have 500 rage. He uses Devil's Drift to eject Togekiss from combat, leaving a perfect chance to directly target Miyo and catch the weaken Golduck pokebrid, the battlebot and Moera in the AOE. The rest of us can dump damage on Miyo (preferably with dragon moves), or use Helping Hands. Those who can't do either will finish off Toxicroak (Probably Wilhelmina with her wind bullet) or help out in some other manner. That way, we can do as much damage as possible without endangering Togekiss (aside from the heavy damage from Lexhur) or risking wasting actions trying to convert him back to our side.

EDIT: And Moonlight Disco is an excellent idea. Even more so if we have Wilhelmina knock out Toxicroak with a wind bullet. Then we would flinch all the Betas on the right side of the formation AND hit Moera for Super Effective damage, and maybe flinch out one of her actions. I mean, Fake Out worked on her when we first met her.

[Dracorion]

What I'm thinking we should do is have Rachel spam Rage Rockets on Lexhur (using her 50 rage as well) to make him have 500 rage. He uses Devil's Drift to eject Togekiss from combat, leaving a perfect chance to directly target Miyo and catch the weaken Golduck pokebrid, the battlebot and Moera in the AOE. The rest of us can dump damage on Miyo (preferably with dragon moves), or use Helping Hands. Those who can't do either will finish off Toxicroak (Probably Wilhelmina with her wind bullet) or help out in some other manner. That way, we can do as much damage as possible without endangering Togekiss or risking wasting actions trying to convert him back to our side.

Or we could just knock the fucker out. Then we could use Lexhur's Devil Drift, or any other one of his techs, against someone else.

See, I'm pretty sure Impact is going to want to knock Togekiss out and Pierce is going to agree with him.

EDIT: And Moonlight Disco is an excellent idea. Even more so if we have Wilhelmina knock out Toxicroak with a wind bullet. Then we would flinch all the Betas on the right side of the formation AND hit Moera for Super Effective damage, and maybe flinch out one of her actions. I mean, Fake Out worked on her when we first met her.

I doubt flinching is going to work on Moera now, man. She's got boss tags, and she's goddamn Darth Vader.

[Menarker]

I'm pretty sure that no one in the team is capable of knocking out Togekiss in one action without a hefty setup, especially now that the special attack booster is broken. You'd use equal/more actions trying to knock out Togekiss as opposed to ejecting him.

And I doubt flinching would work on her either, but Moonlight Disco is severe dark type and she's psychic type. Sure to be pretty effective damage at least. And if there was a small chance she could be flinched.



Or, since in restrospect I doubt Pierce's Signature Sequence will work on the Betas... But Palkia is just too awesome.



Your Co-op technique would be enhanced on the betas since they have the same weakness to fire and poison that the other "human" classes do. (Your Co-op being part fire)

But yeah, we'd want to use Palkia on Miyo for sure.

[Astral Harmony]

Okay, I'm correcting issues now. Man, I'm dumb.

- Correction: Kingdra Pokebrid is defeated and removed from the formation. The damage he dealt to Palkia is erased.

- Explanation: First thing's first, Renny can and should deploy a Pokemon in Togekiss's slot as a free action. Now, Renny can either use that Pokemon's action for that turn to try and regain Togekiss with a 50% success rate. Or he can have the Pokemon attack as usual. If Togekiss is regained, you can replace the Pokemon currently there or send Togekiss to its Pokeball as a free action. If someone should defeat Togekiss, it automatically returns to Renny's Pokeball as a defeated Pokemon.

- Explanation: Lexhur will have 400 Rage at the start of the next turn.

[Menarker]

Also, is there a reason why Impact was hurt too at the same time that Starmie was knocked out by Togekiss? Air Slash is pretty much single target normally.

[Dracorion]

I'm pretty sure that no one in the team is capable of knocking out Togekiss in one action without a hefty setup, especially now that the special attack booster is broken. You'd use equal/more actions trying to knock out Togekiss as opposed to ejecting him.

That's what the Laser is for. You proposed using a bunch of Rage Rockets on Lexhur and having him use Devil's Drift on Togekiss to knock it away. I'm proposing lasering Togekiss and using Lexhur's extra action on someone else.

And I doubt flinching would work on her either, but Moonlight Disco is severe dark type and she's psychic type. Sure to be pretty effective damage at least. And if there was a small chance she could be flinched.

I wasn't sayin' we shouldn't use Moonbeam Disco. I'm sayin' she probably won't be flinched.

Your Co-op technique would be enhanced on the betas since they have the same weakness to fire and poison that the other "human" classes do. (Your Co-op being part fire)

Signature Sequence, man. Signature Sequence. That's Chizuru and Pierce. Solidarity Counter, you know.

[Menarker]

You're horrible and should take several allignment penalties downward if you even allow that in-character. Chizuru surely would not condone such a dismissive regard for a comrade using what is blatently overkill power laser!

The other reason why I suggested using Devil's Drift on Togekiss (aside from RP purpose) was to enable us to hit Moera with the laser. Otherwise, Moera would not be effected at all since Togekiss on the far end of the laser. By ejecting Togekiss out, the next slot/foe down the line is Moera!

With my plan, we'd be hitting both bosses with the laser and removing Togekiss out of action without causing needness damage!

Just out of curiousity, why do you think Moonlight Disco would work on the Betas but not Solidarity Counter? Unless you're thinking that the Betas are incapable of appreciating Chizuru's hotness to be stunned for the turn.

[Dracorion]

You're horrible and should take several allignment penalties downward if you even allow that in-character. Chizuru surely would not condone such a dismissive regard for a comrade using what is blatently overkill power laser!

Oh come on. We can't spare the attacks to eject Togekiss. Or rather, we could, but we'd be crippling ourselves. Those attacks are just better spent on other purposes.

If it helps, Pierce isn't going to like it, but he understands it needs to be done.

The other reason why I suggested using Devil's Drift on Togekiss (aside from RP purpose) was to enable us to hit Moera with the laser. Otherwise, Moera would not be effected at all. By ejecting Togekiss out, the next slot is Moera!

Lexhur Laser hits five targets, man. Just center the thing on the Battlebot and Moera will be hit.

With my plan, we'd be hitting both bosses with the laser!

We'd be doing that with my plan too!

[Menarker]

But the center is where the most amount of damage is dealt and I thought we were trying to get rid of Mio the most, not the battlebot.

And you say we can't spare the attacks to eject Togekiss, but you need equal amount of actions to knock out Togekiss the old fashioned way unless you're using the laser. And using your particular plan weakens the offense that we could do on Mio for an overkill on a relatively unimportant target, the battlebot. Your plan would cripple our effective offense by wasting most of the damage as overkill on the bot. My plan not only increases the damage on the bosses, making it easier to gang up on it with other attacks, but also removes the Togekiss threat for enough time to deal with things (while also making life tough on Moera).

[Dracorion]

But the center is where the most amount of damage is dealt and I thought we were trying to get rid of Mio the most, not the battlebot.

And you say we can't spare the attacks to eject Togekiss, but you need equal amount of actions to knock out Togekiss the old fashioned way unless you're using the laser. And using your particular plan weakens the offense that we could do on Mio for an overkill on a relatively unimportant target, the battlebot. Your plan would cripple our effective offense by wasting most of the damage as overkill on the bot. My plan not only increases the damage on the bosses, making it easier to gang up on it with other attacks, but also removes the Togekiss threat for enough time to deal with things (while also making life tough on Moera).

I'm fairly certain (which is to say I'm completely certain), that if we were to, say, have Lexhur center his laser on the Battlebot and then use Devil's Drift (for increased damage because she'd be resisting the ejection) on Miyo, it'd be more damage on her than if we ejected Togekiss and centered the Laser on her. The difference probably wouldn't be very big, but noticeable enough.

Unless you want to use Devil's Drift and center the Laser on Miyo, but that's not what you're proposing, is it?

Also, since ejected enemies can't be replaced, I'm wondering if any area attacks that would hit those spots simply skip over to the next one. The space is still there, after all. It's just not being used and can't be filled.

Hey AB, if we use an AoE attack on a spot that was occupied by an enemy that was ejected from battle, is the attack wasted or does it simply skip over to the next enemy?

[Menarker]

I'm fairly certain (which is to say I'm completely certain), that if we were to, say, have Lexhur center his laser on the Battlebot and then use Devil's Drift (for increased damage because she'd be resisting the ejection) on Miyo, it'd be more damage on her than if we ejected Togekiss and centered the Laser on her. The difference probably wouldn't be very big, but noticeable enough.


Can you also confirm if Drac's guess is accurate, or if its just wild speculation?

Mind you, Lexhur's Laser is supposed to be immensely powerful when centered, to the point that it's supposed to be a 100% OHKO chance normally. Hence why I think focusing it on her is so important.

However, it is worth noting that ruin types have a weakness to steel type, which is the type of damage that Devil's Drift would do.

Heck, I wonder if the best thing to do is have Lexhur run wild and spam Devil's Drift on her (four times total), smacking her across the field from building to building, as the train swings its large body all across the field like a dragon's chaotically thrashing tail.
Granted, we wouldn't get the AOE effect, but focusing all that super effective damage is surely worth more damage single target than the laser itself since it's spending equal cost of rage.

"You aren't going to sing your special song anymore, young lass? Oh, of course not, I beg your pardon for not noticing. I seem to have gone and smashed up your ribs and inner organs, dear me!"

[Dracorion]

Heck, I wonder if the best thing to do is have Lexhur run wild and spam Devil's Drift on her (four times total), smacking her across the field from building to building, as the train swings its large body all across the field like a dragon's chaotically thrashing tail.
Granted, we wouldn't get the AOE effect, but focusing all that super effective damage is surely worth more damage single target than the laser itself since it's spending equal cost of rage.

It would probably be overkill.

And then we'd have to deal with a bunch of extremely pissed of Betas and Moera at full health.

[Astral Harmony]

Impact's damage is corrected now.

Rather, the physical damage that he is no longer taking. Not the mental damage that he suffers on a near-constant basis.

Mio's song is keeping the Asura Betas in check and focused. With her out of the picture...well, feel free to do it and we'll see what happens.

[Dracorion]

Rather, the physical damage that he is no longer taking. Not the mental damage that he suffers on a near-constant basis.

Meh, he brought it on himself.

Also, you missed a couple of questions.

[Menarker]

It would probably be overkill.

And then we'd have to deal with a bunch of extremely pissed of Betas and Moera at full health.



I somehow don't think it would be overkill or even a knockout, even if it is closer to it than the laser... Keep in mind that Mio got +1 stat boosts to all stats due to Supreme Restore. (Oddly enough, less effective than the ones that the Dark and Light tried using which boosted their stats by 3 stages)

Anyhow, isn't trying to make the Betas operate at random (out of control due to last of Ruin Harmonic) via knocking out the person who could control them part of the plan? Hence the reason why she is perhaps our primary target?

But yes, having to deal with Moera, the battle bot, the golduck pokebrid and the Betas that do attack us would be troublesome a bit.

*Waiting for AB's answers to the other previous questions*

[Dracorion]

Anyhow, isn't trying to make the Betas operate at random (out of control due to last of Ruin Harmonic) via knocking out the person who could control them part of the plan? Hence the reason why she is perhaps our primary target?

Technically, we don't know what they'll do. For all we know they'll all go all super saiyan and start beating the crap out of us or something.

I say we focus on knocking Miyo and Moera out, but also try and take out at least a couple of the Betas.

[Geminex]

Well, if I can develop Impact until it's possible to sympathize with him, then Charlotte can turn into someone who expresses her perpetual bloodlust in refreshing and hilarious ways!

As for why not Pierce...
y'know, that question threw me for a while. I really didn't know why not, at first.
Thank god for late-night showers, eh?

Admittedly, Pierce isn't that bad a guy. He's way less awesome than you seem to demand he be, but that's irrelevant, because he's not necessarily much less awesome than he thinks he is (or at least that's what you seem to be saying). He's pretty two-, and, after your sidequest (I hope) three-dimensional... He struggles with his idealism, he's fairly cynical towards it already, and he seems quite happy to forget it once in a while in favor of pragmatism.
But see, thing is. He's still an idealist. And Impact... as he is now, as he will be, he won't be led by one. He'll work with them and use them and certainly fight them. But to be led by them, that won't happen for quite a while yet.
Besides, I'm thinking Pierce would do better as the Righteous Lancer than as the leader. When he leads, whom's he gonna get pissed at for making immoral decisions?

I just think Charlotte's the better choice. We can all influence her to some degree (because dress an idea up in a way that makes it sound like it will serve to kill stuff, and she'll be all over it like a pack of tundra wolves over a poor, lost, 18th-century Russian woodsman named Dmitri), she's unrestrained by things like 'laws' or 'regulations' or 'manners', giving her a lot more freedom in making decisions. Less restraint. More fun.
Also, Î've thought of a way to justify Charlotte's leadership. Have Rayleen give Impact some plot-convenient but otherwise meaningless (at least for now) promotion, Impact selects Charlotte to succeed him. Bam. Instant justification.

Lemme just sum everything up here:
Menarker: Doesn't mind too much, would like Renny but won't go against the flow (meaning he'd be allright with Charlotte?)
Dante: Ditto
Bard: Charlotte for president
Drac: Pierce for President!
AB: Charlote!
And I'm going with Charlotte also.

Regardless of who you want for leader, lemme just clarify, you'd all agree to help this RP remain balanced (like I said, by my standards), continously, in return for Impact stepping down? No matter who steps up? This is primarily Menarker and Drac, but everyone, really, except for AB.

Mind you, I don't wanna do this unless it's unanimous. Neither do I want to wait until after Pierce's sidequest. So what to do...
If I've accurately summarized Menarker's position, and everyone agrees to the basic deal, there are two steps:
1: You outline roughly how Pierce is gonna change after his sidequest, without revealing what'll happen.
2: I sweeten the deal one time.
Then you accept or decline.

Also, CENTER THE LASER ON TOGEKISS.
IT IS OUR ONLY HOPE.

[Menarker]

Technically, we don't know what they'll do. For all we know they'll all go all super saiyan and start beating the crap out of us or something.

I say we focus on knocking Miyo and Moera out, but also try and take out at least a couple of the Betas.

It's possible, but keep in mind that these things were in the vans on the premise of the battlesite the entire time, and they didn't stir one bit until the song activated, despite how much anger and rage they were supposed to have. One could imagine that the song might even be their life-line.


Lemme just sum everything up here:
Menarker: Doesn't mind too much, would like Renny but won't go against the flow (meaning he'd be allright with Charlotte?)
Dante: Ditto
Bard: Charlotte for president
Drac: Pierce for President!
AB: Charlote!
And I'm going with Charlotte also.



I mean from an out of character perspective mainly. In-character, he'd probably stick with himself (if someone offers it to him), Drac, and maybe Matthias if there was any leadership change. (This not taking in consideration any possibility of NPC leadership.) Renny... would probably see Charlotte's disregard for innocents and for mission objectives that don't suit her desire to hunt as not a good thing for a leader.


Regardless of who you want for leader, lemme just clarify, you'd all agree to help this RP remain balanced (like I said, by my standards), continously, in return for Impact stepping down? No matter who steps up? This is primarily Menarker and Drac, but everyone, really, except for AB.

Mind you, I don't wanna do this unless it's unanimous. Neither do I want to wait until after Pierce's sidequest. So what to do...
If I've accurately summarized Menarker's position, and everyone agrees to the basic deal, there are two steps:
1: You outline roughly how Pierce is gonna change after his sidequest, without revealing what'll happen.
2: I sweeten the deal one time.
Then you accept or decline.


Mind you, the entire "your standard thing" sets off mental alarms, but if your standards are more like guidelines rather than strict regulations, I'd be a bit more open to it.


Also, CENTER THE LASER ON TOGEKISS.
IT IS OUR ONLY HOPE.

You're a real ass, you know that? =P

[Dracorion]

But see, thing is. He's still an idealist. And Impact... as he is now, as he will be, he won't be led by one. He'll work with them and use them and certainly fight them. But to be led by them, that won't happen for quite a while yet.

So? You're not Impact! If Rayleen decides that someone else is better suited than Impact for leadership, what's he gonna do, throw a tantrum?

So it isn't a question if what Impact won't do, it's a question of what you're willing to have Impact put up with.

So, will you have Impact put up with an idealist leader in exchange for balance?

Besides, I'm thinking Pierce would do better as the Righteous Lancer than as the leader. When he leads, whom's he gonna get pissed at for making immoral decisions?

Himself, obviously. Pierce ain't gonna run away from the responsibility of his actions.

Again, I mean.

I just think Charlotte's the better choice. We can all influence her to some degree (because dress an idea up in a way that makes it sound like it will serve to kill stuff, and she'll be all over it like a pack of tundra wolves over a poor, lost, 18th-century Russian woodsman named Dmitri), she's unrestrained by things like 'laws' or 'regulations' or 'manners', giving her a lot more freedom in making decisions. Less restraint. More fun.

You do realize that Charlotte is smarter than she seems, right? She did come up with that whole thing about giving Impact Latios, after all.

I'm pretty sure she'd recognize any attempts to manipulate her. Not to mention she's smart enough to cut through all the bullshit. Which means the only ideas she'd get on board with would be the ones that actually involve killing lots of shit, or are brilliantly dressed up in enough bullshit to fill up an ocean to seem like they're about killing lots of shit.

Bard is obviously better qualified for answering this question, but I'm guessing that she'd let anyone do whatever they want or, hell, just upset our carefully negotiated deals and appoint Matthias or Impact leader. Or Shannon!

Also, Î've thought of a way to justify Charlotte's leadership. Have Rayleen give Impact some plot-convenient but otherwise meaningless (at least for now) promotion, Impact selects Charlotte to succeed him. Bam. Instant justification.

The problem? If Impact's getting promoted, and still going out into the field, that would make him the commanding officer over Charlotte.

Instead of a promotion, I suppose you could make it more of a sideways movement.

Lemme just sum everything up here:
Menarker: Doesn't mind too much, would like Renny but won't go against the flow (meaning he'd be allright with Charlotte?)
Dante: Ditto
Bard: Charlotte for president
Drac: Pierce for President!
AB: Charlote!
And I'm going with Charlotte also.

I'd count Menarker more as a vote for everyone, or for no one.

Regardless of who you want for leader, lemme just clarify, you'd all agree to help this RP remain balanced (like I said, by my standards), continously, in return for Impact stepping down? No matter who steps up? This is primarily Menarker and Drac, but everyone, really, except for AB.

Yep, agreed. Though wait until I respond to your query right below this and see if you won't sweeten the deal more.

Mind you, I don't wanna do this unless it's unanimous. Neither do I want to wait until after Pierce's sidequest. So what to do...
If I've accurately summarized Menarker's position, and everyone agrees to the basic deal, there are two steps:
1: You outline roughly how Pierce is gonna change after his sidequest, without revealing what'll happen.
2: I sweeten the deal one time.
Then you accept or decline.

That's... going to be tricky. Do I have to tell everyone about it, or just you? Because then we could do it over PMs.

Also, CENTER THE LASER ON TOGEKISS.
IT IS OUR ONLY HOPE.

I wanted to say this so bad. But I'm still trying to sell my plan to Menarker, so it wasn't worth upsetting him.

[Menarker]

Hey AB, if we use an AoE attack on a spot that was occupied by an enemy that was ejected from battle, is the attack wasted or does it simply skip over to the next enemy?

Can you also confirm if Drac's guess is accurate, or if its just wild speculation?


Reposting these questions so AB can notice them this time.

Also, you Drac, you're an ass too for wanting to shoot down Togekiss full-on!

Although, given how you guys are a bunch of chaotic maruadering vilgilantes, I shouldn't be quite so shocked. >_>

[Bard The 5th LW]

You guys aren't giving Charlotte enough credit, as Drac pointed out she is smarter than than you'd expect. She can recognize the more underhanded stuff.

And she has some sense of priorities. Sure he took that shot at Shannon sort of for the lulz, but it also saved a lot of time in the 1st mission. She may go for the most unknown/strongest enemy, but that isn't always a bad bad thing. And during the Phantomere battle, she did take steps to test Phantomere's capabilities and powers.

Her orders would definitely be more broad than Impact's or Pierce's though. As long as shit dies, and it isn't her shit, she will generally give more open orders and let the others fish out some tactics.