One Piece Spoiler thread (read, do not enter if you aren't reading manga)

[P-Sleazy]

Oda is about to do a timeskip? Maybe? Will he show us breif moments of what goes on in these two years? or will he allow the anime to fill us in on the going ons of the two years as he has asked them to do on several other occassions?

The One Piece manga has just gone on a 4 week haitus. I for one am shocked and surprised by this, yet very much anticipating whats going to happen. So what have we learned in the past couple or so chapters?

Luffy and the gang will be split for 2 years.
Mantra is a form of Haki.
Haki is a means of rendering the devil fruits useless.
Garp and Sengoku resigned.
Buggy possibly a Shichibukai?
Jimbei possible 10th cruemember?
Coby quickly rising in ranks.
Capt. Morgan still hasn't returned for Luffy's head since he broke out of prison.
Zoro training under Hawkeyes!
Usopp is a full of shit (literally, he's fat and maybe when he works off the weight he won't lie so much).
Robin is working with Luffy's dad, Dragon.
Ace is dead.
Whitebeard dead.
Shanks is still a badass.
Garp wants to kill Akainu.
People higher then Sengoku have power over the Shichibukai.
Aokiji possible new pan-fleet admiral (replacing Sengoku).
The three types of haki revealed, and explained (finally!).
The rio poneglyph lies at the end of the grand-line!
Everyone understands that its important to support luffy more now rather than rely on him.
Blackbeard aiming to replace Whitebeard as part of the Yonkou? what is his aim?
Blackbeard potentially direct rival of Luffy?
Smokey got promoted!
Luffy quickly made connection between Haki and being able to hit Smokey!

So where do we want to start on this?

[greed]

Well none of the Strawhats are young enough to change much during the timeskip appearance wise, other than maybe Chopper. Oh man teenage Chopper's gonna be hilarious if Oda goes that route.

I honestly can't wait to see two years later, super stressed out Buggy trying to hide the fact he's well, Buggy, from the World Government so they don't decide he's not a useful Shichibukai. Or that after 2 years of actually trying that hard we'll see why Gold Roger had him on his crew.

I kinda saw a timeskip coming but I did not expect two goddamn years. And though the upcoming break was pretty obvious, I was really hoping for some resolution of that encounter between Duval, Shakky and the Kuma.


Also Franky's subplot was the most super thing ever. God I hope he hasn't got around to getting skin by the time he reunites with the crew, I've grown attatched to terminator Franky.

[IHateMakingNames]

I wouldn't surprised if Oda gives the Straw Hats updated designs. Probably just mature them up a bit, since most are currently later teenage, you'd expect some change. I doubt Chooper will change, since his human form is a grown man, and in all his flashbacks he looked the same as he does now in every form. Plus we've seen what he's done with some characters, specifically Shank's crew, to give them big ol' changes after time. The difference with Usopp's dad makes me expect Usopp is coming back a new man.

I didn't expect a two year time skip. I figured the Straw Hats power ups were happening while Luffy was at war and recovering.


Four month break is sad, since One Piece is the best manga. Guess Oda wants the break to plan and finalize everything that happens in those two years.

[greed]

I wouldn't surprised if Oda gives the Straw Hats updated designs. Probably just mature them up a bit, since most are currently later teenage, you'd expect some change. I doubt Chooper will change, since his human form is a grown man, and in all his flashbacks he looked the same as he does now in every form. Plus we've seen what he's done with some characters, specifically Shank's crew, to give them big ol' changes after time. The difference with Usopp's dad makes me expect Usopp is coming back a new man.

I didn't expect a two year time skip. I figured the Straw Hats power ups were happening while Luffy was at war and recovering.


Four month break is sad, since One Piece is the best manga. Guess Oda wants the break to plan and finalize everything that happens in those two years.

Point about the design changes, I was actually more thinking a change in personality for Chopper though. Going from bratty kid who sometimes acts mature, to bratty teenager who sometimes acts pretty mature.

Also dude, I'm pretty sure it's a four week break unless the translation I'm reading is wrong. Four month, shit don't scare me like that.

[Amake]

As Oda explained in a lettercol, the main characters just happen to turn the same age every time they have their birthday, the lucky bastards. I think it's been at least five years since they set sail. So I wouldn't expect them to get older just cause a couple of years pass quickly.

So, any bets that the comic will end before chapter 1000?

[IHateMakingNames]

I meant weeks. Not sure why I said months.

Also, what Oda said before was just one of his joke answers to explain some real life to manga discrepancies. One Piece has been in serialization for five years, but the in-universe time has been unspecified. But now we have stated time skip, so they'll be aging.

[krogothwolf]

Yeah, there should be an different in appearance for the characters that are aged 17-19 at least. I don't know about you, but looking at pictures between my 17/19, 18/20, 19/21 self I do look different enough to be noticeable.

[phil_]

One Piece has been in serialization for five years...Thirteen, sir.

I'm a little worried about this haki thing. Part of what I liked about One Piece was its willingness to say "It works because, look, see, it worked." It let there be weird, impossible powers like Inazuma's Scissor Fruit. Pointing out classes of magic powers seems a bit counter to that (though, fruits are already classed, so this isn't entirely new). I could go on about ultimate techniques that take a lifetime to master but everyone can do, but I think I can wrap up my feelings much more succinctly by saying this: when someone fires a beam, and no one freaks out about a beam because beams are cool, One Piece is dead to me.

I don't see that happening, but it could. Time skips lead to Dragonball Z, after all.

[IHateMakingNames]

I went with five because IQ had said they have been sailing for five years, which I assumed meant how long the manga has been running. In hindsight I think she meant supposed canon time.

We've seen the strongest people fight already, and there have been no signs of Haki getting much better than what Rayleigh described. Oda seems pretty good with power caps, so I wouldn't expect much higher than what we say with Whitebeards war. I assume things will get better, but in a more personal way during one on one battles.

[P-Sleazy]

Other thing I'd like to mention about Haki is that its not like he's just pulling Haki out of nowhere. He's been showing us Haki throughout most of the Manga, even as early as the first few chapters when Shanks lost his arm and scared that fish away we now have an explanation for how he did it and it was because of Haki. And it also explains why Smoker didn't directly attack Luffy's dad in Logue town since Dragon most likely also has Haki at his disposal and Smoker knew the result of that fight before it started so he just stood there instead. Finally, he connected it to Mantra from Skypiea and that when Coby was hearing voices our thoughts were "OOoo snap! Its Mantra!" and then the doc being all "Ooooo Snap! Its Haki!" we actually know now that Mantra= Haki, Color of observation.

Sooo, when we finally got a firm description of what Haki is, I see it less as Oda just adding a whole power level, and more as him explaining things that have been happening all along and we were like "wtf? why did that happen?" or "how'd he do that?"

[PCD]

Oh thank god people are talking about it here I have been just on such a spaz these last couple of days.

It's been building up pretty clearly to the idea that there would be a timeskip, but I don't know that anyone was expecting a 2 year jump. I bet some of the younger guys will have a shift in appearance, since even later teens still have some maturing to do. Also, if Franky rebuilds himself again, there's a high chance of a shifted appearance there, too. And let me say, if Brook stays as a circus freak this entire time, I will be SO PISSED, seriously, the guy has gone through enough misery already.

I am a little uncertain about this whole haki thing--I don't mind it in nature, since it's clearly been there since the very beginning (as P-dawg said), but it's obviously bringing a whole new level to the fights in this series. Things were fine enough with "LOOK MY POWERS ARE POWERFUL 8D", though I do like the implication that it's possible to be a Badass Normal and still get ahead in this world.

[Grimpond]

Badass Normal is pretty much what garp and Shanks are, right?

[PCD]

Yes, along with such BAMFs as Raleigh, and it looks as though Coby is on his way there, too. I've been disappointed in the past, though, when characters who seemed pretty badass and potentially Fruitless have decided to reveal late in the game "naw I control EARTHQUAKES" or the ever-bizarre "I can turn into a FUCKING HUGE BUDDHA for some reason"

[Jagos]

Uhm... Just sayin, WB was Badass because he was FRIGGIN WB!

The mustache cannot be denied!

In regards to Haki, I have enough confidence that Haki is going to be used to supplement the fights considerably. Most of the crew may get a little Haki but think about Usopp (our base level) getting a Haki powerup to his slingshot. I'm sure that Haki won't over step the natural abilities of the SHs (like the Saiyan blood did DBZ) but it's pretty much great to see all of the SHs take this seriously.

[P-Sleazy]

1. We've known whitebeard controls earth-quakes for a long time now.
2. Just because he controls earth-quakes, doesn't mean he can't fight hand to hand.
3. WB does all his awesome shit, even though he's hooked up to an IV most of the time.

Also, I am definetly sure that Usopp will have Haki attached to his slingshot simply because they mentioned that Haki is what the amazons attached to their arrows on Amazon Lily.

Also, is it possible that CP9 members used Haki?

[greed]

I thought they explained that what they used was actually pretty much like crazy muscle control and blasting air pressure waves out with it to go super fast, shield themselves and shoot things. But it's totally possible haki was somehow involved, except that to hurt Luffy they did seem to use claws or crush him into walls and shit, rather than just outright punch through his defences like Garp can.

[PCD]

I never said that WB wasn't a complete and total badass. Did I say that? No. I just said that instead of being a badass guy who can swim, he's a badass guy who can control earthquakes, and I wouldn't be upset to see more people in the former category.

Considering that Raleigh was able to just flick Luffy in the head and have it hurt, while CP9 used their Finger Guns and just had it bounce uncomfortably against Luffy, I don't think they've unlocked that ability yet. Though I wouldn't be surprised to be totally proven wrong, who knows with Oda.

[Jagos]

I'll say that Lucci had Haki to a small degree. Remember, his Shigun was hurting Luffy left and right. I know that those battles helped awaken Luffy's haki. And after such a huge battle, where Lucci and co lost, I wouldn't be surprised if they came back with their own developed haki powers.

[Amake]

In my opinion, every aspect of Whitebeard's character was worth it for the one moment where he first uses his devil power where I was forced to yell at the book, "He broke the air!"

[IHateMakingNames]

One thing that I'm unsure about Haki. The conquerer Haki, can anyone use it? When Luffy knocked out all those amazon they said it's a one in a million to have, then it was played off as being extra special any time after. According to Rayleigh it's just another form of it though.

[Art of Hilt]

Nah, according the Rayleigh it's really rare.
Conqueror Haki is a person's 'spirit' and nothing more. So I guess anyone can use it, yeah, provided they're a huge enough badass.

[Jagos]

The greatest disappointment...

Jewelry Bonney got stopped before her crew could really become a force in the New World. I would have liked to see her a little more before she got caught...

[EVILNess]

Yeah Rayleigh did say that conquer haki is something you are born with and a person's capacity can never be increased.

Also, it is almost guaranteed that Luffy will be better at the offensive/defensive haki than he is at the prediction haki.

[Jagos]

The Conqueror Haki can be reinforced. So its power can probably double and triple since his spirit is pretty strong.

[Osterbaum]

I'm interested in the changes that will have happened in the world after two years. How far will some of the Rookies have gotten, for example? And what about Blackbeard? etc.

Compared with many other Shounen mangas, what has kept me reading/watching One Piece to this day is that Oda seems to have atleast some form of a long term plan for the series, which is more than most series can say.

[P-Sleazy]

well, Oda has said that he originally intended for one piece to be 500 chapters long, hence how quickly they went through East Blue, but he fell in love with the characters while writing it and wanted to write more about thier adventures so his length has pretty much doubled just because of all the things he now wants to include.

[Jagos]

Doubled is an understatement. People have to tell Oda all the time to STOP writing because he has so many ideas. You have the cover arcs that are different stories from the back chapters that tell us that this entire world is friggin detailed. Then, he's had to throw away a few characters (Zombie Generals) so he could tighten up the manga and stop the anime from catching up so quickly.

It scares me that he's done so much, but it's the reason I still read OP over Bleach or Naruto.

[Aerozord]

On White-Beards devil fruit power, I feel need to point out. He doesn't create earthquakes, I mean he can but that isn't what his power does. Look at when he uses his power. He's causing quakes in space itself.

Also reminds me abit of the head captain of Bleach. Both had their main power completely negated and just responded with "Whats your point" and used their bare hands.

But about Haki. There is one thing I hate about it. Its a generic power that says "Logia users can suck it". I loved how they had to figure out how to exploit their weaknesses to beat them. It also strips away Blackbeards powers advantage when you find out there are LOTS of people that can negate powers.

[PCD]

Blackbeard's already got the advantage of having more than one Fruit power in his body, he can put up with having another advantage taken away.

[P-Sleazy]

I wouldn't say they have their advantages taken away. Cause they can still still turn into thier respective element or what have you. Its just whenever their in their human form, thier body doesn't automatically do the "transform into smoke/fire!" of its own free will as it has but rather it has to be more controlled.

Also, Blackbeard mentioned that he can't transform his body like other logia users so Haki isn't gonna affect him as much. He's used to being able to take a hit as a result and his devil fruit power helps him absorb those hits hence Haki will be greatly diminished since they're not stopping a transformation, but still hitting him.

[Aerozord]

I wouldn't say they have their advantages taken away. Cause they can still still turn into thier respective element or what have you. Its just whenever their in their human form, thier body doesn't automatically do the "transform into smoke/fire!" of its own free will as it has but rather it has to be more controlled.

Also, Blackbeard mentioned that he can't transform his body like other logia users so Haki isn't gonna affect him as much. He's used to being able to take a hit as a result and his devil fruit power helps him absorb those hits hence Haki will be greatly diminished since they're not stopping a transformation, but still hitting him.

Haki negates all powers, not just logia. Its why punches were hurting Luffy so badly.

[IHateMakingNames]

I like Haki because it kinda says "fuck you logia users." At first, using water on Croc and Luffy naturally being Enel was interesting, but we've seen tons of Logias now. I'd hate to see every fight have to resort to some "natural weakeness" to the logia. What the hell would they use for Akainu and Aokiji? Akainu melted ice and evaporated water, and Aokiji is just light. I rather see Zoro be able to slash them than have to lock Aokiji in a room with no light and fill it with sea water or something.

Haki weakens Blackbeard a bit, since at the time he did make a big about nullifying devil fruits. But he can still grab a person and have his crew shoot them, plus all that gravity stuff. Also, fuck Blackbeard.

[Osterbaum]

and Aokiji is just light
You mean Kizaru.

[Aerozord]

lock Aokiji in a room with no light and fill it with sea water or something.


really? because to me pulling that off would be pretty awesome

[Grimpond]

I just found this guy (http://www.youtube.com/user/lackism#p/u) while surfing youtube. He paints characters from one piece, and then sets it in time with various songs from the anime. It's fantastic art and a great watch if you have time.

[Grimpond]

IT'S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!~

[Jagos]

Uhm... no? I can't find anything about it anywhere.

[Grimpond]

Well, I just finished reading it so pooey on you

[IHateMakingNames]

It is out and it's awesome that it returned.

Though this chapter wasn't as spectacular as I hoped. He didn't reveal as much as I wanted about what happened during the skip. I'm sure the next 10 chapters will cover that and will be great.

Also, they didn't show Zoro or Franky, but a color page says that Franky is now a gorilla.

[greed]

And that Zoro might be sans an eye.

As if he needed to be anymore badass.

[Grimpond]

I was impressed by how buff Usopp looks now. It's definitely an improvement.

[PCD]

Also people are debating if Zoro lost an arm, based on that colorspread. I am admittedly disappointed that we didn't get a little more evidence of what's happened in the meantime, but... well. It's hard not to be satisfied once you see what Brook's been up to.

[IHateMakingNames]

Zoro has both arms. Tying his bandana around his sleeve wouldn't really work as it is shown there, and you can see his third sword out of his sheath and being held behind Luffy legs.

The biggest question is how many cups did Nami gain?

[Regulus Tera]

About as many as Robin.

Nami looks twice as hotter with long hair.

[Locke cole]

It is out and it's awesome that it returned.

Though this chapter wasn't as spectacular as I hoped. He didn't reveal as much as I wanted about what happened during the skip. I'm sure the next 10 chapters will cover that and will be great.

Also, they didn't show Zoro or Franky, but a color page says that Franky is now a gorilla.

Franky truly is a battleship now. If that color spread is anything to go by, he's certainly big enough...

[EVILNess]

Not a big fan of Franky's new look. Maybe I'll change my mind later, but right now I miss his old hair.

[Aerozord]

It is out and it's awesome that it returned.

Though this chapter wasn't as spectacular as I hoped. He didn't reveal as much as I wanted about what happened during the skip. I'm sure the next 10 chapters will cover that and will be great.

Also, they didn't show Zoro or Franky, but a color page says that Franky is now a gorilla.

doubt we will get alot. I mean we saw basis of what they were doing, if they wanted more detail they wouldn't have skipped it.

On a completely unrelated note, Usopp got a nice hello

[Art of Hilt]

One Piece? Back?
Yes. Finally. Yes.
YES.

Franky truly is a battleship now. If that color spread is anything to go by, he's certainly big enough...

He's not the only one who is a battleship.
Oh yeah.
You know what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about Nami's tits.

[Locke cole]

Man I sure do wish I could lose weight like Usopp.

Dude went from Fatty Fatcakes to Buffy McBufferton in a mere 2 years.

[Aerozord]

To be fair he went from scrawny twerp to Fatty Fatcakes in far less time

[IHateMakingNames]

I just realized that we now see Sanji's left eye and his right is hidden. And his eyebrow goes in the same direction with both eyes.

[PCD]

I won't deny, first thing I thought when I saw the colorspread was "wait where is Franky's hair, he needs that for fuel-based shenanigans." It wasn't for a while that I realized he's also apparently now part Hellboy.

I feel kind of like an asshole for hoping that Usopp is still bottom-tier. Oda said he'd always be the weakest of the Strawhats, because he's supposed to be the normy. Not that I want him to be weak or anything, I just hope that everyone else is also so amazing that he's still normal by comparison.

And man I don't go for girls but daaaaaaaaaamn, Robin.

[Locke cole]

Yeah, he can still be awesome and still be the weakest in the crew.

He could even still be the weakest, but the gap between weakest and strongest could shrink considerably.

And if he's going to remean "the weakest", that means that Chopper had better have learned something new for fighting. Perhaps an enhanced Rumble Ball?

[Jagos]

Nah, he doesn't need a Rumble ball.

He needs more techniques and better use of his current Points to combine them.

-Edit- I just realized the irony of Zoro being the FIRST to the ship...

[PCD]

He was probably trying to find a way to visit Vivi or something first.

[Aerozord]

my friends theory is he started looking a year ago and just now found it

on a related note, if Zoro is missing an eye. Finally someone in One Piece with an eye patch

[EVILNess]

I honestly think he is just blinking.

Also, I totally miss Chopper's old hat. Not cause I hate the new one, but because of the emotional attachment Chopper is supposed to have with his old one. IE his "Father" gave it to him.

[IHateMakingNames]

Chopper still has his hat. It's just under a blue hood now.

I would prefer if Zoro had both his eyes.

[EVILNess]

Looks like a new hat to me since it isn't attached to anything.

Unless you are suggesting that he has a hat on his hat.

[krogothwolf]

I just don't understand why the girls all got Boob Jobs.

[Locke cole]

Oda.

Do you need any further explanation?

[Grimpond]

Plus, two years is a good amount of growth time!

[EVILNess]

Plus, two years is a good amount of growth time!

Dammit Oda! Nico Robin was 28 years old or something BEFORE the time skip.

[Jagos]

I'd hit it.

She's just exposing more of it now. I guess it has to do with her freeing herself. :D

[Grimpond]

Yes well, that's where Oda comes in!

[Jagos]

SHHHH!

The 4th wall does exist!

[P-Sleazy]

I bet you chopper learned how to control "monster point"

[IHateMakingNames]

I'm hoping more for upgraded versions of his previous forms, and no rumble ball amount limits. Monster Point then being his trump card, controllable or not. Everyone has that special move.

Also, I assume everyone has Haki at this point. With the way Rayleigh described it I expect everyone to prominently display one form of it.

[Jagos]

Nah, maybe not Usopp and Nami. But I can see Chopper with a type of mantra if possible.

[Locke cole]

Hmmm...

Here's a thought: What if Nami's hair is so long now so that she can tie Wind Knots into her hair?

OK, that sounds a lot stupider when I actually write it, but I regret nothing.

[Jagos]

... Nami with pigtails?

[Grimpond]

... Nami with pigtails?

I dunnno.....:ohdear:

[IHateMakingNames]

I would except Usopp and Nami to have Haki more than any other characters. They are the weaker characters who utilize tactics and tricks to win instead of just kicking their opponents ass. This heavily favors giving them the Observation Haki/Mantra to give them that extra trickiness.

The only characters I think may not have Haki are Chopper and Franky, since they use science as their weapons, Rumbleballs and robot parts respectively.

[P-Sleazy]

if Zoro and Sanji don't have the Haki of Armor I will be sorely dissappointed. Also, I second Nami and Usopp having Observation. Chopper will join them with Observation and I would say that Franky is more likely to get the Armor Haki too. Brook and Robin won't get Haki because they spent their time doing other things (being world famous and learning about the locations of the Poneglyphs and the purpose of the revolutionaries).

[Locke cole]

Don't forget Brook's mighty quest to go 40 degrees!

[Jagos]

Odds are, he'll get to 20 degrees before the end of the adventure.

[EVILNess]

Don't forget Brook's mighty quest to go 40 degrees!

I do wonder what that did for him, if anything.

Or maybe that was just him being silly.

[PCD]

It was very definitely just him being silly. What I want to see is what his apparent EBA-like abilities now are capable of.

[Jagos]

EBA?

[PCD]

Elite Beat Agents. Perhaps you may recall back to right before Brook was captured by the Longarms, the people of the village were thanking him for his help--somehow, his music just filled them up with motivation and strength...

[Locke cole]

That, or hosting a now-famous rockstar earned them more money than selling him to a zoo ever would.

[PCD]

What? You're referring to something that happened after what I'm talking about. The Longarm tribe were the ones who tried to turn Brook into a zoo.

Previous to being kidnapped, Brook was staying with another tribe, and just before he left they told him, (Chapter 592, Page 15) "I don't know why but, when we heard your music, we got the courage and the spirit to pick up our weapons for the first time and fight back!" I'd link the page myself but this forum does not approve of such things.

[Locke cole]

Oh right. Those dudes who thought he was Satan.

(What is it with this comic that that statement sounds so... mundane?)

[PCD]

The magic of Oda: turning "Panties for the Demon Lord" into a religious mantra.

[Aerozord]

My bet is Luffy will have Haki of armor, which would basically be him doing what he's been doing. I know he wont have observation because this is shonen and dodging is for pussies.

What I hope, but sadly know wont happen, is to have Luffy master the commanding Haki. Winning fights without fighting, showing more subtle and steady style the just rushing in and punching people will show growth and more maturity. Can still be the same adventure whore, just one that has learned not to rush into things blindly and to occasionally avoid fights

[Grimpond]

YES YESYES! Fucking AWESOME!

edit: HOly shit Franky!

editedit: Looks like zoro did lose an eye

editeditedit: HOly shit, zoro <3

[Aerozord]

wait, dont tell me Luffy actually did focus on the Haki I thought he was least likely to learn?

[Grimpond]

wait, dont tell me Luffy actually did focus on the Haki I thought he was least likely to learn?

Yes.

At least, it's the first Haki he's displayed!

[Locke cole]

Did you notice that the thing Zoro did to that pirate ship was exactly what Mihawk did to Don Krieg's galleon?

[Grimpond]

Fuck Yeah! He even talks similar to him now! and he realized he was on the wrong ship! and His hair is slicked (or wet).

[Art of Hilt]

- You are on the wrong ship. What do you do?

*Stay
*Ask the captain to turn around
>Cut the ship in half

[Aerozord]

was it just me, or was that the flag for the "foxxy pirates"?

[Jagos]

Look at the bow. It's a fox as well. But the captain is different.

[greed]

Epic chapter is epic.


Also I totally lost it when Robin said "You never change Franky".

[Locke cole]

"What are you talking about? Look at all this MAN'S ROMANCE I've stuffed into my body!"

[P-Sleazy]

But Luffy displayed two Haki's. Observance and conqueror. Which one are you guys talking about?

[Grimpond]

Both! but especially conqueror

[PCD]

Dammit FRANKY AND ROBIN STOP TEASING THE SHIP AAAAAA

One thing that struck me as especially interesting was not that Zoro fucking cut a ship in half, which is obviously awesome, but that the thing he said was a decidedly... Mihawk-esque way of speaking. Dude's taken some poetry lessons or something while he's over there.

Weird timing for the fake Strawhats, huh?

[Grimpond]

Fuck Yeah! He even talks similar to him now! and he realized he was on the wrong ship! and His hair is slicked (or wet).

It's pretty pimp!

[PCD]

I need to start reading other posts more thoroughly instead of skimming them in my eagerness to get my own post up sooner.

I'm not sure how to feel about Zoro being all poetry-speak now, though. It doesn't fit the guy we've gotten used to over the last six hundred chapters. I'm sure Oda will make it work, but I still feel weird about it now.

[Locke cole]

I'm fine, considering that he goes from poetry to "I got on... THE WRONG SHIP!" almost immediately.

[Menarker]

For a while, I was thinking that Zoro looked like he was dressed like "The Dread Pirate Roberts" from "Princess Bride".

Cool stuff. ^^

[Jagos]

Wow, Boa looks different in the manga than she does in the anime...

Oh dear Lord...

Franky just reminded me of the Jersey Shore guidos. DAMN YOU SHYRIA!!!

[Aerozord]

Nice to see Brook's former bounty finally come up, no clue how they made that connection though. Probably his 'fro

[Grimpond]

"The hair, it's controllable!"

[PCD]

This chapter made me unbelievably happy. Chopper's fluffy new look makes me wish I could pet him, for real. I'm looking forward to see how his other forms might have changed. Sanji and Zoro's chemistry is possibly more hilarious to me than usual, likely brought on by the simple fact that we haven't seen them together in ages.

Everything about Franky fills me with glee. The man is just such a complete lunatic, dear lord. YO DOG I HERD U LIKE HANDS SO WE PUT A HAND IN YO HAND SO YOU CAN DO CARPENTRY WHILE U DRINK COLA. If he starts actually saying -Mecha at the end of his sentences all the time, though, it'll be a bit distracting.

There are no words for the amazingness of Brook's concert--busting out Musical power, revealing to the world that Luffy's truly still alive, and best of all, getting recognized as the Rumbar captain. It's like a big fat Crowning Moment of Awesome... and he's already wearing a crown! YOHOHOHOHO!

[Jagos]

Let's really think about this though...

It took the Marines 2 friggin years to figure out Brook...

Two years of a LOT of touring.

We won't even think about all of the groupies Brook picked up along the way.

When they get to the next few islands it will be really, really, REALLY interesting to see how Brook's power and dynamic work to make Luffy's adventure that much more entertaining.

[PCD]

So how 'bout those Pacifistas?

Mo' like PaciFISTas am I right

[Jagos]

Well, glad the gang is back together.

But now I really want to see the New World and Fish Island...

So this means Luffy will have a battle with an admiral while getting out of there.

[P-Sleazy]

I doubt he'll have a battle with an admiral. Sentomarou will be the biggest threat he'll have to face. That was the person he spent the most time fighting when he first got there so that's who he's gonna whip up on this time to be all "bitch! get out of my way!"

[PCD]

Welp, it took eighty chapters and two years, but the Strawhats are back together. Everything is awesome now.

Somehow I suspect they'll find a way to put off Fishman island for another freakin' arc, though.

[phil_]

I caught up with One Piece right as they entered the Shabondy Archipelago. This is where the comic has been headed for the entire time I've been reading it week-to-week.

I'm excited.

[P-Sleazy]

And they're off to Fishman Island without any delays. Looks like everyone's friends from the past two years have come to see them off on this second voyage. Sadly, I was hoping to see the revolutionaries do something.

[PCD]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

[Grimpond]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

[Locke cole]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

[phil_]

Fuck yeah, Isma's joining the crew!

Wait, that's the last Berserk...

[Grimpond]

Yeah, I saw that one too

[Art of Hilt]

I'm happy to see them give props to Kuma.

[Aerozord]

less then a week ago I was discussing the possibility of a logia for water, wonder if thats what we just saw.

Well guess we know where Shank's got the hat now. More curious as to why they look alike too

[Jagos]

I'm just sayin...

We ever going to get a look at Roger's eyes or is he just going to be all dark and mysterious with those for the rest of the damn adventure?

[PCD]

I think we actually got to, back during one of Raleigh's flashbacks...? Not positive though. It's been a while.

Seriously, part of me wonders if Dragon and Roger got their kids mixed around or something, that resemblance is uncanny.

[Aerozord]

I dont know I always thought there was a resemblance between Ace and Luffy from the start

[phil_]

I'm just sayin...

We ever going to get a look at Roger's eyes or is he just going to be all dark and mysterious with those for the rest of the damn adventure?Roger had sharingan.

[Jagos]

Just started watching the anime again and saw Sanji on Newbakka Island...

WTF?!

[PCD]

That episode pretty much made 50% of the Sanji fans quit the series out of raeg. It was hilarious.

[Jagos]

Dear god is that shipping gone HORRIBLY wrong. >_<

[Locke cole]

Gold Roger's face showed up completely unshrouded in Chapter 0.

Here's the picture:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/aryu515/Picture6-1.png

[P-Sleazy]

Roger can't have Sharingan, but only because Zoro stole it from Hawk-Eye Mihawk. Its why he has his eye closed (stupid people saying he lost an eye).

[Aerozord]

new villain is a punk

that is all

[Locke cole]

He's even got stereotypically punk-like hair.

[P-Sleazy]

Can I just say, I hope at some point later in the series if Luffy does actually tame the Kraken he says "Release the Kraken!"

[PCD]

NIPPLE LIGHTS

[Art of Hilt]

damn look at all those crew members kicking serious amounts of ass
god damn

[russianreversal]

Well, now that Sanji can apparently run through the fucking ocean, I guess they can just wrap it up there.

"Oh no! Luffy [read: any fruit user or other person inexplicably unable to swim in an oceanic world] fell in!" "Nah, he's good"

And so they were never in any danger again.

[Locke cole]

Well, now that Sanji can apparently run through the fucking ocean, I guess they can just wrap it up there.

"Oh no! Luffy [read: any fruit user or other person inexplicably unable to swim in an oceanic world] fell in!" "Nah, he's good"

And so they were never in any danger again.

"Oh no! Luffy fell into the ocean!" "No prob-*NOSEBLEED* *faints*"

[P-Sleazy]

Also...One piece Green is out!

[PCD]

I'm still not set on the idea of there being another crewmate added in the New World, but Green hinted at it again so I guess I'll need to accept the idea. Like, I always remembered that Luffy said he wanted ten members, but it feels to me like missing out on that two-year jump seems like a bit of a gap in the bonding experience together.

Then again, it's Oda, so I guess he's guaranteed to pick someone cool =\

[P-Sleazy]

Well...throwing someone in now just before the 2 yr bonding experience would also be a bit of a downer too. Although, I want to go ahead and place my bets on Hacchan.

[Jagos]

Nah... He seems to be more of an aid, like Raleigh. Plus, he was already in the Arlong Pirate crew. Granted, Robin joined under some crazy circumstances but Hatchan's main things (six sword fighting style, takoyaki) are already done by someone else better.

[PCD]

Then that begs the question, what else needs to be filled? They've got their musician, which was such a big running joke from the beginning that I kind of assumed they'd be set now that they had Brook. What job is left?

[phil_]

What job is left?Charlie-work. Scraping the barnacles and emptying the loo and whacking rats.

Alternatively, scout/spy. Robin sorta has the sneaking, and Usopp has his sharp-shooting, and Nami's used to be sorta thief-y, but they have no straight-up guy who sneaks and spies. It's a niche they could stand to fill. And he could be small and ugly like Chopper used to be.

[Art of Hilt]

It's going to be Jinks... Jinka... Jinuk...
It's going to be the shichibukai fish guy. He's going to be the new crew member.
No idea what role he's going to fill. Got absolutely nothing to back up what I said. I'm just entirely certain it's going to be him joining the crew.

[greed]

Then that begs the question, what else needs to be filled? They've got their musician, which was such a big running joke from the beginning that I kind of assumed they'd be set now that they had Brook. What job is left?

Well most crews don't NEED an archaeologist so honestly it could be anybody. Luffy could like meet some dude/lady in a town and just be like "My crew needs a plumber/accountant/painter/dry cleaner" remember how he recruited Brooke?

My personal bet is a dancer to complement Brooke. Or another science type job like Robin they were common on old timey ships. Like a biologist or astronomer or something. My money's on dancer if it's on anything though.

Edit: Maybe a different kind of entertainer. Could see Luffy totally press ganging a puppeteer or something.

Edit2: The more I think about the more I like the idea of a puppeteer. Would be a fighting style quite different from everyone else's. Wirefu and creepy puppet combat is always cool.

[PCD]

Well, we've already seen someone with wirefu, and maybe I'm wrong here but something tells me Donflamingo is not too interested in joining up with Luffy anytime soon.

Not that he's the only person allowed to fight that way but I'm just saying

[Menarker]

It's going to be Jinks... Jinka... Jinuk...
It's going to be the shichibukai fish guy. He's going to be the new crew member.
No idea what role he's going to fill. Got absolutely nothing to back up what I said. I'm just entirely certain it's going to be him joining the crew.

Jimbei? I thought he was going to be the 10th member too.

I'd imagine just his presence alone would help alleviate future issues with fishmens/merfolks, considering how many are justifiably racist against them, angry and scared of humans due to the slave trades and all. His former shichibukai status might also be impressive in some social circles.

That and he also have the underwater expertise needed to fight off underwater monsters without breaking the bubble as well as save the devilfruit users who fall in the water. Plus, he can summon aquatic life like whales. You know... He's basically Aquaman in a world that's 90% water?

Hell, for the brief time that this forum had a One Piece RP, I thought of having a Fishman that would dive underwater that would swim underwater and punch holes in the ship's belly, so they'd start sinking. That would solve tons of problems with ship battles.

Although maybe that's why Oda put the bubble coating arc in the first place, so when Jimbei comes to the team, he wouldn't be able to do that "living torpedo ability" so easily since the offending ships could dive too and generally be more evasive.

[greed]

Well, we've already seen someone with wirefu, and maybe I'm wrong here but something tells me Donflamingo is not too interested in joining up with Luffy anytime soon.

Not that he's the only person allowed to fight that way but I'm just saying

I was actually talking like Crouching Tiger Hidden Draogn Wire Fu, not like razor wire. You know with the puppets. Though the razor wire could work too, it's not like everyone has to have their own individual weapon(and the puppets would put some distance between them and Flamingo). It would be neat to have someone with fruit powers fighting someone who replicates the same fruit powers through natural skill and weaponry.

[IHateMakingNames]

Flamingo uses puppets (which are other people). Not sure where you are getting wires. He did cut off the one giant's foot, but that's all I can think of.

[P-Sleazy]

hey, don't forget the flying guy in Skypeia. He used wirefu to trap his opponents.

[Aerozord]

Flamingo uses puppets (which are other people). Not sure where you are getting wires. He did cut off the one giant's foot, but that's all I can think of.

did it to crocodile's head too.

I think those are an extension of his powers

Certainly makes more sense then Paw Paw Bear's power

[PCD]

Well, the puppet thing makes me think of wires, is all. Since we don't know for a fact yet if that controlly-thing he does is an Ability or not. Though it probably is.

Jimbei, I guess, would be the best option of what much of the fanbase has clamored for as far as new members. He has a history with Luffy and is pretty badass, and also not annoying as fuck like Hancock. One petty stupid thing that catches me up is the part where the Strawhats are literally like a family: Brothers, sister, mother and father, and grandpa. And I'm not sure where Jimbei would fit in this equation. Part of me hopes that there is a badass old lady coming in. Because the world needs more hardcore grandmas.

[greed]

I fucking love Oda this chapter is so full of freaky deep sea goodness.

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3634/blobfishyissssss.png


It's the fucking Blobfish!

[Locke cole]

LUFFY TAMED THE KRAKEN! WOO!

[Aerozord]

so thats the 10th member

[PCD]

You can just tell that Oda has been waiting FOREVER to drop his deep sea knowledge on us and is totally trying to make the most of it.

Also, Franky is the best Creepy Loomer ever.

[russianreversal]

so thats the 10th memberHa ha oh yes.

In other news, Chopper never fails to be less than useless. Seriously, not only are you a "doctor", but it's a GIANT JELLYFISH. What do you think's going to happen when you touch it?

[Aerozord]

to be fair chopper focused on human anatomy and lived where there would be no jellyfish at all.

[Art of Hilt]

this chapter was a delight
i used to be obsessed with the deep sea when i was a kid
"volcano worm stalks fuck yeah"
"angler fish fuck yeah"

[IHateMakingNames]

I'm relatively sure the new evil mud-guy is supposed to show off how strong the new Strawhats are, but I can't tell if it's already happened. He has a roughly 300 million bounty, which by power levels means he's strong, but he's getting ignored and locked in barrels. I can't tell if that's for comedic effect, or if he's not a concern to the Strawhats (Specifically everyone not the Monster Trio).

[phil_]

So, going by this image of an Umibouzu:

http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/741/397pxkuwanathesailortok.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1233/kuwanathesailortokusoan.jpg
Image courtesy of Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think we know what those ~spooky~ shadows were around Thriller Bark, and we know that, yes, they really had no bearing on the story whatsoever; they were just there to be ~spooky~.

[Jagos]

I'm relatively sure the new evil mud-guy is supposed to show off how strong the new Strawhats are, but I can't tell if it's already happened. He has a roughly 300 million bounty, which by power levels means he's strong, but he's getting ignored and locked in barrels. I can't tell if that's for comedic effect, or if he's not a concern to the Strawhats (Specifically everyone not the Monster Trio).

Think of him as the New World equivalent of Buggy.

[Locke cole]

Oi. Buggy was at least a threat when he first appeared.

All Caribou's done is kill one dude.

[Aerozord]

I think Franky had it right, he's just really stupid and would be a legit threat if he didn't keep making mistakes like that. He is a logia after all.

[edit] I miss the old Buggy. When he first appeared he really pulled off "psycho clown" really well

[Locke cole]

Oh yeah, "nobody remembers its name village arc" Buggy was great. Ran the entire town out of... town, had those special Buggy Balls, way cool.

Plus, his crew was delightfully quirky.

[Art of Hilt]

I think Caribous' purpose is to fill them in on parts of underwater travel that they don't know about yet (like personal bubble suits, etc).

[P-Sleazy]

I think he's the new member of their crew...

Just saying.

Also, Caribou got his bounty by killing mercilessly (IIRC). Same as Eustass Kid. So its not so much that they're uber powerful (which we know Kid is though) but because he just has a wake of destruction behind him.

Luffy on the other hand, got his bounty by outright defying the marines and doing crazy shit. Which admittedly, I feel like he should have a higher bounty after the shit he's pulled, participated in Marine Ford, Breaking out of Impel Down, AND the destruction of Enies lobby (although, this one can be given to Spandam too). Those are three of the Marines key places of operation and Luffy's been at all three and wreaked havoc. I don't think thats something you take lightly.

[Jagos]

I think he's the new member of their crew...

Just saying.

Also, Caribou got his bounty by killing mercilessly (IIRC). Same as Eustass Kid. So its not so much that they're uber powerful (which we know Kid is though) but because he just has a wake of destruction behind him.

Luffy on the other hand, got his bounty by outright defying the marines and doing crazy shit. Which admittedly, I feel like he should have a higher bounty after the shit he's pulled, participated in Marine Ford, Breaking out of Impel Down, AND the destruction of Enies lobby (although, this one can be given to Spandam too). Those are three of the Marines key places of operation and Luffy's been at all three and wreaked havoc. I don't think thats something you take lightly.

True, but he was almost captured on all of these occasions. I doubt they'll put up his bounty just yet until he gets into the New World. Since it has been two years since he came around, I'm sure most of the Marines have been busy capturing other rookies and pirates, ignoring Monkey D.

Personally, gotta think... Why Caribou? How would he fit?

[Aerozord]

I had a long discussion about Luffy's bounty and its pretty much this, they thought he was gone as was his crew.

Remember they were all sent to remote locations, to the publics knowledge they just fell off the face of the planet. Now remember what the World Goverment wants, stability. While the Navy no doubt continued searching for him they didn't want people glorifying or fearing him. So they let him slip under the radar. Remember when fake Luffy showed up people were suprised he was even still alive.

Sure now that he is publicly known again his bounty will be shot up. He is probably second only to Dragon now

[PCD]

Hasn't it already been stated that Luffy's bounty has gone up? It went from 300 million to 500 million.

[Jagos]

Actually, it's 400 million.

[russianreversal]

Ussop's timing for showing off his new abilities was so perfect that it was even commented on by Brooke. :D

In other news, take that, fishmen!

[Locke cole]

Man, I love Surume. I hope he stays on the crew permanently.

[P-Sleazy]

I doubt he will. They'll probably let him do his thing after Fishman Island.