View Full Version : Anonymous takes down FBI website
Jagos
12-12-2010, 02:15 AM
Linkage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye_F0w5nP5w)
I can only facepalm as I watch the 4th Amendment take a nose dive.
Prepare for the government to become that much more bureaucratic.
THANKS ANONYMOUS FOR NOT LISTENING TO THE PIRATE PARTY'S URGE TO DEBATE THIS RATHER THAN BECOME ANOTHER SCRIPT KIDDIE!
Kyanbu The Legend
12-12-2010, 02:31 AM
God damn it Anonymous, by fighting back you're justifying the government's reasons to take offensive action against the net.
-_-;
Wigmund
12-12-2010, 08:14 AM
A bunch of self-absorbed dipshits do something that makes a problem worse? That could never happen.
Professor Smarmiarty
12-12-2010, 08:20 AM
God damn it Anonymous, by fighting back you're justifying the government's reasons to take offensive action against the net.
-_-;
No they don't.
Hanuman
12-12-2010, 09:05 AM
God damn it Anonymous, by fighting back you're justifying the government's reasons to take offensive action against the net.
-_-;
So you're saying that people should fight within the system rather than having a riot?
Valid point, could work, most likely will not. Riots and rallies have been proven to be effective against corp and gov bullying, sure they might take a can of tear gas to the net, but if your response to the gas is complacency rather than rioting, then you're training the gov like Pavlov's dog.
These "attacks" are just internet rioting, like 1,000 people standing in front of a store causing a DoS attack of bodyblocking.
Actually, that's a great idea. They should have 4,000 people choreographed to go simultaneously running by an office building entrance packed tightly so the suits have to dive though. Exercise AND mass harassment? Score!
Magus
12-12-2010, 01:33 PM
I think we should all be glad that the massive weaknesses in our country's security organizations are being infiltrated by amateur hackers so said weaknesses can be identified and fixed before someone with an actual large-scale ability to cause problems, such as terrorists or a foreign government, decides to try and hack them.
Jagos
12-12-2010, 03:32 PM
This riot just might be uprooted VERY soon... (http://www.utwente.nl/ewi/dacs/news/archive/2010/wikileaks.doc/index.html)
Aerozord
12-12-2010, 04:29 PM
What suprises me isn't that this happened, its that its happening this soon. I thought it would take a few more decades before the internet would make organized attacks. Granted they are minor, but this shows that number and what is now basic programming knowledge is at the level that cyber equivalent of riots, protest, and picketing is now possible.
In a way I am happy to see it happen. The way they went about it was counter-productive but as they said in that video link, internet is more powerful then corporate America. I was growing concerned that non-violent methods of protest were no longer valid. That only armed revolt could change things, but this shows that even with the financial, political, and by extension military control of the upper class there is still a way for people to speak out against it in a meaningful way*
*not saying this was meaningful, but tactics could be used in better and more effective ways. What I like is not that this was done, I like knowing it can be done
Doc ock rokc
12-12-2010, 04:37 PM
This riot just might be uprooted VERY soon... (http://www.utwente.nl/ewi/dacs/news/archive/2010/wikileaks.doc/index.html)
it would if the news networks didn't name Tor (http://www.torproject.org/) now the hackers are going to Truly anonymitize(?) themselves.if they didn't already
POS Industries
12-12-2010, 07:31 PM
God damn it Anonymous, by fighting back you're justifying the government's reasons to take offensive action against the net.
-_-;
Yeah, come on guys! Don't fight back! Just lay down and take the beating!
Eltargrim
12-12-2010, 07:38 PM
First off, no anon uses Tor, because the Tor protocol is not really suited to DDoS attacks. Secondly, the sheer volume of attackers makes prosecution unlikely. Thirdly, the report in question didn't say that the LOIC produces a unique response, only an identifiable one. A botnet also produces an identifiable response. In short, an attack from an anon with the LOIC is indistinguishable from a poor sap who's been botnetted without their approval. The only way to tell would be to examine the computer in question for the LOIC or for a botnet.
Aerozord
12-12-2010, 07:56 PM
Yeah, come on guys! Don't fight back! Just lay down and take the beating!
You see you have to do what is known as, rolling over. Just lay there and tell the world. look at my soft under belly, I'm not a threat
Hanuman
12-12-2010, 08:18 PM
What suprises me isn't that this happened, its that its happening this soon. I thought it would take a few more decades before the internet would make organized attacks. Granted they are minor, but this shows that number and what is now basic programming knowledge is at the level that cyber equivalent of riots, protest, and picketing is now possible.
In a way I am happy to see it happen. The way they went about it was counter-productive but as they said in that video link, internet is more powerful then corporate America. I was growing concerned that non-violent methods of protest were no longer valid. That only armed revolt could change things, but this shows that even with the financial, political, and by extension military control of the upper class there is still a way for people to speak out against it in a meaningful way*
*not saying this was meaningful, but tactics could be used in better and more effective ways. What I like is not that this was done, I like knowing it can be done
Agreed, as the video said this is about the control of the power of information, and that power is how people do absolutely terrible things and then keep you in the dark and then keep you further complacent when you do find out.
Power of information is power of forming personal opinion, and opinion is freedom.
HEY AMERICA, YOU TORTURE PEOPLE.
Funny how that bit of information has lost it's impact and people are generally not ok with it, but not against it either.
Jagos
12-13-2010, 12:12 AM
You see you have to do what is known as, rolling over. Just lay there and tell the world. look at my soft under belly, I'm not a threat
I would like you to meet my friends, Ben Dover and Taye Kitt.
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