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EVILNess
01-15-2011, 07:49 PM
FYI there is no whitelist currently since Hey0 stopped updating and Bukkit is not ready for release yet.

I have a text file so I can re-implement it when Bukkit is released though.

Also, Server going Down temp while I twiddle with setting it up at a location that is A. More stable. and B. So it will have a dedicated internet connection.

Basically, I have people yelling at me for running it on my home internet connection. I am trying to find a more permanent solution! Thanks for being patient.

The Argent Lord
01-15-2011, 08:15 PM
No whitelist meaning I should be able to get on regardless? Because that's not working.

Pip Boy
01-15-2011, 08:54 PM
He said in the same post that the server is down.

The Argent Lord
01-15-2011, 08:58 PM
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I've been trying since I requested to be whitelisted the first time. Other people are obviously getting on, as you've all been discussing building projects and whatnot. I always get an error message.

Melfice
01-16-2011, 04:13 AM
Are you using the correct IP address?

I know, I know. You're not stupid.
I'm just ruling stuff out.

The Argent Lord
01-16-2011, 12:41 PM
Unless the first post is outdated, then yes.

Melfice
01-16-2011, 01:19 PM
I can't connect either anymore.
Funny, yesterday I had no problem at all.

First post's server status says it's UP, although since Ness mentioned he's fiddling around currently, he could have forgotten to update the first post.

Doc ock rokc
01-16-2011, 02:16 PM
Ness hasn't changed the first post so that "Up" thing on the first is not true.

EVILNess
01-16-2011, 05:21 PM
Ness hasn't changed the first post so that "Up" thing on the first is not true.

SHHHH!

Don't let out my secret that I am a terrible server admin with unreliable equipment!

Pip Boy
01-16-2011, 08:14 PM
Still better than no server admin at all

Geminex
01-17-2011, 11:59 AM
Hello you strange builder-folk.

When one of you strange folk is not busy building fortresses in the sky or making monuments to the great god of TNT, you should totally make a lil`cal. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/00463.gif)

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EVILNess
01-17-2011, 12:11 PM
I'm trying to get a server wrapper up so we can at least tp back to the spawn. So... yeah. Hopefully, kits as well.

Pip Boy
01-17-2011, 12:46 PM
Is there a mad that does that in the more literal sense and causes the map to wrap at certain X-Y distances from the spawn?

EDIT: Geminex, I will have no part in anything to do with that horrific puppet monstrosity.

Marc v4.0
01-17-2011, 12:50 PM
If we don't let the map expand, we are going to have to reset each time Notch does a major update and adds a new resource

Pip Boy
01-17-2011, 01:26 PM
Marc v1.0 makes a good point.

Flarecobra
01-17-2011, 01:36 PM
Hello you strange builder-folk.

When one of you strange folk is not busy building fortresses in the sky or making monuments to the great god of TNT, you should totally make a lil`cal. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/00463.gif)

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You know I'm part of that, yet I want nothing to do with Cal.

Fifthfiend
01-17-2011, 06:41 PM
Hello you strange builder-folk.

When one of you strange folk is not busy building fortresses in the sky or making monuments to the great god of TNT, you should totally make a lil`cal. (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/00463.gif)

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The important bit would be doing the high-res photo glassy eyes staring out at you from that blocky pixellated puppet body.

Ryong
01-17-2011, 06:52 PM
I believe the only way we could fix it is that if we kept PART of the map and every now and then, the area around the city gets wiped so it is created again when we expand. There's probably a map editing tool for that.

Loyal
01-17-2011, 07:02 PM
The important bit would be doing the high-res photo glassy eyes staring out at you from that blocky pixellated puppet body.It is for this reason that I feel Minecraft cannot do it justice.

akaSM
01-17-2011, 07:39 PM
I believe the only way we could fix it is that if we kept PART of the map and every now and then, the area around the city gets wiped so it is created again when we expand. There's probably a map editing tool for that.

I really like this idea, maybe just wiping what's under a certain level/altitude would work.

Doc ock rokc
01-17-2011, 09:04 PM
Lets see my Mine-cart station so far
7600
Here is the Outside with the test track
7601
Here is the inside with just the Dispenser and the cart call system
7602
here is the cart call. a standard small-track infinte booster with a reset ramp
7603
and here is the Pez dispenser that will hold at least 6-7 carts max
7604
the one rule you MUST follow if you want to test out my station without me

Marc v4.0
01-17-2011, 09:37 PM
I believe the only way we could fix it is that if we kept PART of the map and every now and then, the area around the city gets wiped so it is created again when we expand. There's probably a map editing tool for that.

The other part of the expanding is so we aren't all built right on top of each other. A lot of room is already taken up by huge buildings and underground projects.

This method would be asking of people who have to build further out due to room constraints to not mind if they just lose everything every few weeks.

Although the overarching problem will be moot once it reaches full release.

Ryong
01-17-2011, 09:43 PM
The other part of the expanding is so we aren't all built right on top of each other. A lot of room is already taken up by huge buildings and underground projects.

This method would be asking of people who have to build further out due to room constraints to not mind if they just lose everything every few weeks.

Although the overarching problem will be moot once it reaches full release.

We COULD expand every now and then and just keep deleting the borders of that area, y'know.

Flarecobra
01-18-2011, 01:40 AM
To whom it may consern:

When I found out WHO THE FUCK took all my diamonds, coal, redstone, clay, gold, and iron... You will regret the fucking day you did that.

And you can thank that cockbite who did it, as I'm no longer giving away freebees.

And apperentally took the Lapis out of Ness's temple.

And I found a trail of redstone torches... which lead out to the middle of nowhere... where there's a workbench, furnice, and a chest... with a full stack of redstone, and various dyes

Shyria Dracnoir
01-18-2011, 01:57 AM
Hope we can get the white list back up soon. I don't know if this is a random griefer or someone on the forums, but it's getting serious.

akaSM
01-18-2011, 05:32 AM
The redstone torches trail is mine, I use that so that I can easily find the mine I fell into, it has lots of goodies :3. Also, I swear I haven't stolen anything from anyone.

Doc ock rokc
01-18-2011, 04:05 PM
Finished the Train station! there is still some bugs (mostly pigs getting in the carts and fucking things up). but It should work 80% of the time. I am going to lay down some tracks later

Aldurin
01-18-2011, 04:33 PM
Minecraft? I need to look into these threads sooner.

I've seen enough gameplay and screencaps that I'll start playing as soon as possible and try to figure out how to access the NPF server.

. . . as soon as the Minecraft website works for me.

EDIT: It works, gonna buy as soon as possible.

akaSM
01-18-2011, 05:15 PM
I can't login even though minecraft.net is back online :/

Flarecobra
01-18-2011, 05:34 PM
Neither me or Shy can get on, and Minecraft.net isn't coming up.

Aldurin
01-18-2011, 05:39 PM
Figures, when I finally decide to play it it breaks.

Doc ock rokc
01-18-2011, 05:54 PM
the .net is busy just keep retrying

Flarecobra
01-18-2011, 06:03 PM
Tried for 15 minutes.

akaSM
01-18-2011, 06:16 PM
I got it to log in :D...then forgot my video converter was set to make my lappy hibernate after finishing an encode...then the video I was working with got converted, so yeah >_>

Doc ock rokc
01-19-2011, 02:14 PM
Whats going on with the server??? is it still down from all the minecraft migrating stuff?

Flarecobra
01-19-2011, 02:22 PM
Especally since I got a friend of mine wanting to check it out from another forum.

EVILNess
01-19-2011, 04:05 PM
I'm sorry, I cant figure out why no one can connect.

I am quite frustrated atm. I'll let you guys know if I can get it working.

Doc ock rokc
01-19-2011, 04:07 PM
Did the IP change? You said earlier that you where switching it around.

Flarecobra
01-19-2011, 05:24 PM
Will the monster implamention thing get pushed back because of this?

EVILNess
01-19-2011, 05:58 PM
Yes of course.

Flarecobra
01-19-2011, 07:48 PM
Oh god... I just realized something: Spider-riding Skeletons can climb walls too.

Loyal
01-19-2011, 07:59 PM
Yeah, but there's like a 1% chance of them actually appearing. I'm not sure they'd pose any more of a threat over the wall than would a regular spider. Plus, lip-ledges on the top of the wall are just as effective at stopping their ascent.

akaSM
01-19-2011, 08:04 PM
Ans that's why the way to access my island is through a water pillar, followed by a 1*2 corridor and a ladder you have to jump off :3. It's not as complicate as it sounds :P

Flarecobra
01-19-2011, 09:07 PM
Discovered why it's been so iffy.

Once again, minecraft.net is more popular than the poor old server can keep up with, so we’re upgrading. I’m not quite sure how long it will take to get done as it’s mostly Tobias doing the work (thank you, sir!). We’ve got a huge amazon cloud server which we’re moving the main server to. We’ll be able to replicate this as demand grows, and we’ll have a load balancer set up in front of it all. Skin downloads will almost certainly be migrated to S3 downloads instead of going through resin as it does now, and we’ll have a separate server just to handle game logins and auth requests.In other news, we spent the day today out of the office in various cafés, as the floor was getting fixed. And we got the Machinima.com IGA awards! They’re pretty!

If you want to see some pics from the office and Mojang in general, Carl has a photo album here. It gets updated every now and then.

For Minecraft development, we’re working on the new file format, and a new game launcher. The file format is still in early testing, but it’s looking somewhat promising, except for it taking up a bit too much space. It’s faster, though.
The new Launcher will be a bit prettier, will show release notes and other news, will send login requests over https (finally), and will ask if the user wants to update to the latest version or not. In the future, we’ll add support for playing the previous installed version (after warning the player that there might be unexpected bugs) and the ability to choose what work directly to save the level files, but that’s not coming in this version.

We’ve got a meeting planned for tomorrow with some community members to discuss how to best implement the modding.

Marc v4.0
01-19-2011, 09:36 PM
Spiders can't climb sandstone, it seems

Viridis
01-19-2011, 09:42 PM
Spiders can't climb sandstone, it seemsThat's been debunked many times. For instance, it was on the Minecraft wiki then removed. (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Spider&action=historysubmit&diff=44138&oldid=44062)

Flarecobra
01-19-2011, 10:11 PM
They can climb ANY vertical surface.

Fifthfiend
01-19-2011, 10:49 PM
Is minecraft (not ness's server, minecraft in general) down for everyone else right now, or is it just me?

Flarecobra
01-19-2011, 11:10 PM
*Points to my quoted post about the status of all Minecraft.net*

Doc ock rokc
01-20-2011, 02:28 PM
I generally get in on my third Try Fifth. also I am building Proto type looters for us in one of my worlds to get the best mob trap designs. I can recreate them all in the server when its up...but I need just one ingredient to make it where we can farm spiders... chemical x cacti

EVILNess
01-21-2011, 05:09 PM
The server is up, FYI.

It's going to lag for about an hour hour and a half from this post though. I am using bandwidth hardcore.

BH5432
01-22-2011, 10:09 AM
mind if I get tossed on the white list? It would be sweet to play with people who know what they are doing. Name there is the same as here. BH5432

Aldurin
01-22-2011, 10:46 AM
gonna buy the game today since watching gameplay videos of it last night messed up my dreams (everything had minecraft in it to some level). I'll screw around in single player to get my bearings then see about authorization to enter Nuklearstan (or whatever you're calling you continent).

Flarecobra
01-22-2011, 12:23 PM
It appears to be down again.

EVILNess
01-22-2011, 01:36 PM
It appears to be down again.

It's not. what does it say when you try to connect?

Flarecobra
01-22-2011, 01:38 PM
Failed to connect to the server

Connection Timed out: Connect


Figured after 20 minutes of that, I thought it was down.

EVILNess
01-22-2011, 01:41 PM
Ahh... ok then, I see the problem the IP changed again.

Flarecobra
01-22-2011, 04:17 PM
Ok, I got an armory being built up and supplied. Mostly stone tools and swords though. It's by the fense, way out near the Eastern Frontier.

Shyria Dracnoir
01-22-2011, 06:06 PM
The wall is in the process of going up. Also filled in some ground to provide some more space for newbies.

Aldurin
01-22-2011, 08:48 PM
I think I've done enough wimpering in a corner during the nighttime to be ready for multiplayer.

White list me please (if that's the list of how to get in). Username is Aldurin.

Also those first ten minutes is harder than it looks, I couldn't find a good cave or proper resources so I was forced to literally dig into the side of a mountain and seal off the entrance. Then there was a fucking zombie dancing around above me so I kept hearing shit and then when the sun came up I still heard it so I equipped my sword and made a break for it just to see that the zombie somehow wedged himself under a tree and away from sunlight.

So I farted around on peaceful mode with a new map to get used to stuff. Just finished torching a cave network twenty times larger than I expected (I finally got to the point where I stopped exploring and just started sealing off passages).

Flarecobra
01-22-2011, 08:51 PM
Shy... just HOW does one get entry into the hamlet if they, for example, visits the dragon temple?

Shyria Dracnoir
01-22-2011, 10:20 PM
We're adding gates once the other wall builders get on and get a look at where things stand now. Might put one facing the dragon temple and another facing the snow field near Doc's castle. I dunno.

BH5432
01-23-2011, 02:37 AM
Just my luck. I play for an hour or so and seem to find an utterly HUGE cave system connected to the wee hole I found in the surface. Go ahead and explore BH5432's Place. tho its quite easy to get lost :3:

Aldurin
01-23-2011, 10:20 AM
I'll probably figure out most of this place before I go play hobo in a nearby cave thus establishing a forward safe house.

I'll probably mark it with a cobblestone tower until I can use glass to build a windowed entrance.

EDIT: Established two safehouses northward. Marked with torches and cobblestone towers. The closer one has emergency resources in the chest, but I was too busy to stock the second one. Just in case you get caught outside during evening. Also there is a flood risk with safehouse 2 so if anybody knows how to creeper-proof the nearby lake shore I'd like to know too.

EDIT2: I seem to be locked on peaceful difficulty when in the server (health regenerates and haven't seen a single enemy mob yet). Is this a glitch or some setting to the server itself?

Flarecobra
01-23-2011, 12:49 PM
It's the server setting. Monsters are going on Monday I heard though.

Aldurin
01-23-2011, 12:57 PM
It's the server setting. Monsters are going on Monday I heard though.

Makes today perfect to create safe houses. Also I can't garuntee creeper-proofing on the current two safe houses, but if somebody wants to double-layer the walls and roof they're free to do so.

Flarecobra
01-23-2011, 01:20 PM
Only real way to creeper-proof something is either covering it in A: lava, B: water, or C: Obsidian. All of them are explosion-proof.

Doc ock rokc
01-23-2011, 01:24 PM
there is no need to double layer anymore. Creepers can no longer see though walls. So no more of that Random ass explosion BS.
however spiders can now climb walls AND SEE THOUGH THEM. Meaning that creepers have become slightly less destructive while spiders have become alot worse.

Pip Boy
01-23-2011, 01:25 PM
PREPARE YOURSELVES LITTLE CREATURES: FOR TOMORROW ALL MANNER OF BEASTS SWARM FORTH FROM THE DARK TO DESTROY US ALL!

So here are a few tips for new players, since we seem to have a lot of those.

1. MONSTERS DO NOT SPAWN WHERE THERE IS LIGHT! Keeping your mine well lit is the key to survival. If there are any dark unexplored areas, the monsters may come creeping forth from them to do you harm. Light them or seal them off, lest they be your undoing.

2. MONSTERS CANNOT MOVE THROUGH DOORS! Wooden or steel doors can keep monsters at bay, but be warned that any door foolishly left open will do you no good. For this reason, it is advised that one tries to use mostly Iron doors with a pressure plate so that the door closes automatically behind each user, lest some unwary fool leave open the portal to the scary place.

3. RUN FOR YOUR FUCKING LIVES! ITS A CREEPER! No seriously, these guys will fuck your shit up. They'll fuck the whole town's shit up. Although EXPERT MONSTER HUNTERS have special strategies to killing them with a sword, they can only really be safely engaged with a bow, from afar. Causing creepers to explode near public property is frowned upon.

4. SPIDERS CAN CLIMB ON SHIT NOW: A vertical wall is not enough to keep the horrible eight-legged menace at bay. They're also really fast when traveling along the ground. To keep them from climbing into your base, remember these helpful tips. Spiders have a low, wide profile, making it impossible for them to fit in a 1-wide hole that other monster normally can go into. By using such narrow passages to escape from them, one can easily lose them and get away. Furthermore, lips put around the tops of important doorways stop the spiders from climbing over, as they cannot climb on horizontal ceilings, merely walls.

5. ITS DANGEROUS TO GO ALONE! TAKE THIS! A sandstone structure with some burning nether-stone and a chest has been placed near the village center. The chest contains ample weapons and leather armor. Although iron or diamond material is a better long-term solution, these items should help keep you safe until you can get something better set up. Special thanks to whoever put that there.

Hopefully that will help keep a few of our brand new players from being mauled to death by zombies. In the event that anyone requires more direct assistance, please contact me in-game if I'm online, or message me on steam if I'm not.

GENERAL NOTE: I am willing to trade 10 bars of gold for every stack of arrows (64) anyone brings me.

Doc ock rokc
01-23-2011, 01:40 PM
Other Notes.
Inside My Castle Is a Mob Killer machine. It Goes underneath the Green Dragon inn and almost to the farm's cave.
I don;t recommend digging down in that location because I purposely created the Ideal conditions for monster spawning 24/7
there will be a ton of materials down there If anyone so wishes to use the machine.

Pip Boy
01-23-2011, 01:43 PM
As an additional note: With the implementation of Creeper mobs comes the gunpowder they drop, leading to TNT. Please use this responsibly. Anyone I find carelessly damaging public property with stupid uses of TNT will be followed and murdered in the name of the public good. If you want to go into your mine and blow the shit out of yourself, that's fine, just don't be putting TNT near other people's things or in town.

Some tips on using TNT without killing yourself: An activated red-stone trail leading to TNT will cause it to detonate. A common kind of trap within one's own mine is to place a pressure plate leading to TNT that will kill those who who do not belong there. Be careful, as oftentimes the creators of these traps are killed by them, rather than the intended intruders.

If you're lacking in redstone, there is another way. Im pretty sure fire being right next to redstone will set it off, and wool burns quickly. Set a block of TNT, then set a trail of wool leading to a safe distance, then light the wool using a lighter.

We cannot emphasize how important it is that you be careful with lighters and with TNT. Both have been the cause of extreme damage to public areas in the past, and there is a dangerously large potential for that now that all of our public theaters, inns, and other buildings are all made of wood and surrounded by trees. A forest fire started in this game is really, really hard to put out. Don't do it.

EDIT: A final note on using fire is that a burning block does not have to be in direct contact with another block to spread the flames. A single burning piece of wood or leaves can pass the flame a small leap away to a tree or building it is not even touching. For this reason it is asked that one does not play with fire while on the surface. If you have uses for it underground, thats probably safe, but please don't burn everything down. We had a bit of a problem with this on the last map.

akaSM
01-23-2011, 02:24 PM
wool burns quickly

Maybe a yellow house wasn't such a good idea D:. Damn obsidian is hard do get >_>.

Doc ock rokc
01-23-2011, 02:27 PM
Maybe a yellow house wasn't such a good idea D:. Damn obsidian is hard do get >_>.

ask Flare. She has been rolling in ob...also there is a cave south of my castle that has several lava lakes and water streams...Good luck finding your way out though.

akaSM
01-23-2011, 02:39 PM
I got some obsidian (60 blocks left out of 64), but not enough for the walls. The problem is not finding it but, mining the damn thing. Over 15 minutes of poking it with a diamond pickaxe for just 64 blocks of it...well, it's hard >_>. I found a nice cave for getting obsidian, just meed to bring a bucket for water and voilà, instant obsidian ^_^

Pip Boy
01-23-2011, 03:08 PM
I have to say, I rather enjoy this map in the sense that overworld map has been nicely suited to our needs as far as town building, and the underground has proven to provide a lot of nicely connected tunnel systems. We've had three or four different users now find massive underground tunnel systems that seem to just go all over the place. Particularly BH's.

Doc ock rokc
01-23-2011, 03:34 PM
Well the Surface actually was treeless and bare for a while It wasnt till we started a orchard that definately went overboard that we got the shear amount of trees that is needed..

Aldurin
01-23-2011, 03:44 PM
We cannot emphasize how important it is that you be careful with lighters and with TNT. Both have been the cause of extreme damage to public areas in the past, and there is a dangerously large potential for that now that all of our public theaters, inns, and other buildings are all made of wood and surrounded by trees. A forest fire started in this game is really, really hard to put out. Don't do it.

EDIT: A final note on using fire is that a burning block does not have to be in direct contact with another block to spread the flames. A single burning piece of wood or leaves can pass the flame a small leap away to a tree or building it is not even touching. For this reason it is asked that one does not play with fire while on the surface. If you have uses for it underground, thats probably safe, but please don't burn everything down. We had a bit of a problem with this on the last map.

I now feel guilty for burning a bunch of trees about 800 blocks from town just so that my torch tower would be easier to see.

I won't do that shit again because when I actually burnt the 8 trees around my safehouse I meant to burn one as a test. And I got caught in a scary lag loop so I won't burn things on the surface.

Keep in mind: If you don't like a tree it is in everyone's best interest NOT TO BURN IT, I'm gonna just cut the trunks out of ones I don't like for now on.

Pip Boy
01-23-2011, 04:58 PM
Well the Surface actually was treeless and bare for a while It wasnt till Pip Boy went crazy and planted over 300 trees in or near town in an attempt to appease the tree gods so that the trees would stop being angry at him.

FTFY

Flarecobra
01-23-2011, 05:13 PM
Though Doc still broke Science.

Aldurin
01-23-2011, 07:34 PM
Don't log on right now. Looks like a surface lava pool started a fire and now the lag is bumping people off the server. Ness can hopefully get it fixed somehow but right now it's even keeping the terrain from loading.

EDIT: Ness, if you can could you please preserve the map since I'm almost halfway done turning a rare formation into my official base?

Flarecobra
01-23-2011, 07:49 PM
Holy fuck man, we went from Minecraft Canada to the fucking AMAZON.

Course, there was a reason for that request not to go all Chrisopher Columbus on the map, huh Ness?

Aldurin
01-23-2011, 08:06 PM
Geez, Flare. You made me think that the map was reset and I had to check.

Oh and there's still fire. I'm gonna solo a bit.

EVILNess
01-23-2011, 08:13 PM
Don't log on right now.

Actually, please DO log on. Help fight the fire, cause if we don't get it under control its going to have to be a new map.

I think i got most of the fire.

Aldurin
01-23-2011, 08:32 PM
Nevermind then. But the big problem is that all four of my buckets are filled with lava. I'll try to dump them in the current lava pool and then get water but it might make things worse.

EDIT: Trees won't process when cut down so use water only.

Loyal
01-23-2011, 08:37 PM
Just, like, find a bunch of sand somewhere, dig a hole, and put the lava there.

akaSM
01-23-2011, 08:40 PM
I think Ness fixed the fire, I just logged again and there were just a couple logs on fire

Aldurin
01-23-2011, 08:40 PM
Ya except I'm in the middle of the fire and I only have dirt.

Also I'm hoping that water is the thing working since if it isn't it means we have a fire so big it can preserve itself from sheer lag force.

EDIT: Akasm how are you still in there? You were the first witness, I thought you would be trapped too.

Also I'm gonna stay off help effort since I may complicate things with loose lava.

Shyria Dracnoir
01-23-2011, 09:19 PM
Found an interesting program called Minedraft that helps you plan out buildings on a grid. Here's a castle (http://minedraft.net/?id=4d3ce1fa37f7922b73000002) I started designing.

Shyria Dracnoir
01-23-2011, 09:21 PM
Oh jeez, I log in for just long enough to see a massive tree on fire before I get booted. It may take a while for me to get in there and help, if at all.

Shyria Dracnoir
01-23-2011, 09:25 PM
Well, seems to me we've succeeded in setting our world's ENTIRE EQUATORIAL RAINFOREST ON FLIPPING FIRE. I honestly don't see how we're going to be able to fight it; every time I log in it's just long enough to see more and woods burning before I get the boot.

Aldurin
01-23-2011, 09:32 PM
My main suggestion is to shut down the server, take the file with the terrain. Identify fire and start knocking out fires within that area without having to mess with lag and buckets that may or may not have a helpful fluid.

Hell, I'd do it myself if I was running the server.

akaSM
01-23-2011, 09:38 PM
The coordinates of the new fire are -589-93 72.62 -125.96, it's not that far from the original one :/

Shyria Dracnoir
01-23-2011, 09:41 PM
The original must have spread further than we noticed. That or some jackass went in and started another one on purpose.

Flarecobra
01-23-2011, 09:44 PM
The elves, dryads, and treants are NOT going to be pleased.

And let's not even mention the Ents.

akaSM
01-23-2011, 09:45 PM
The odd part is that, even though I was at the original fire's site, I didn't see anything, and there was no lag either :/

Aldurin
01-23-2011, 09:48 PM
Can't connect to the server, I hope that's a "fixing it right now" kind of can't connect rather than "server no longer functions" can't connect.

The lag seems to have weakened and I'm watering down fire now. Hopefully this will help it become controllable.

BH5432
01-23-2011, 09:58 PM
In response to that earlier comment about mah caves.

Those things literally go on forever. I have yet to find an and and gave up. I'm slowly working my way down making paths and mining out the stuff I see

Doc ock rokc
01-24-2011, 01:36 AM
HE turned monsters on
I managed to get 20 sul and 25 bonemeal before he shut them off 15 min later
You have intill sleepy head gets up.
Get to the Safe house.

Flarecobra
01-24-2011, 03:40 AM
So I was climbing up Yggdrasil... Night fell, saw this.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/024/c/b/npfville_by_10110100-d37x736.png

Shyria Dracnoir
01-24-2011, 10:11 AM
You know, between Ygg and Doc's orchards, we might be able to pull something like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Trees_of_Valinor) off.

Aldurin
01-24-2011, 10:48 AM
So my official establishment is pretty far north of town, in a big huge hole in the side of a mountain that's mainly patched up with cobblestone and glass. There's a torch trail leading there and three safehouses along the way (I can garuntee everything but creeper-proof).

There is some unmined redstone and gold in the deep shafts of the first two safehouses (safehouse 2 also has a stagnant lava pool in it's shaft).

Hopefully I'll hold out, I may resort to building double-layered tunnels between several of the safehouses to make visiting easier, but my priority is to spider proof the fuck out of this place first.

Doc ock rokc
01-24-2011, 12:14 PM
You know, between Ygg and Doc's orchards, we might be able to pull something like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Trees_of_Valinor) off.

especially with all the bone meal I am churning out.

Pip Boy
01-24-2011, 04:04 PM
especially with all the bone meal I am churning out.

http://rockbandaide.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Trololol.jpg

Flarecobra
01-24-2011, 04:21 PM
The lag is more dangerious then the mobs.

Marc v4.0
01-24-2011, 04:22 PM
Wow, the lag..it is fantastically unplayable

EVILNess
01-24-2011, 04:34 PM
I don't think my internet connection is liking hte mobs, so gather as much of the mob only stuff you can and I'll turn it off later.

Marc v4.0
01-24-2011, 06:18 PM
The lag has been better since you stopped by, almost gone completely.

The monsters have actually become fun to have around once the lag stopped being a jerk.

EVILNess
01-24-2011, 06:30 PM
My roommate was patching some beta he got invited into.

So blame Sellers.

Also, I am leaving for the night. So, if something goes wrong send me a PM, and I will get someone to restart the server. It just may take a bit.

Marc v4.0
01-24-2011, 06:39 PM
If that was the case, then i say we should keep the monsters on!

Doc ock rokc
01-24-2011, 06:51 PM
crashed server.

Flarecobra
01-24-2011, 06:54 PM
Yeah. It's unplayable right now.

Marc v4.0
01-24-2011, 06:56 PM
It is better again. I swear, if that was Sellers doing something I will throttle him, though. Me and Earl survived the Lag.

That was excrutiating and annoying. It went away almost immediatly after You and Doc left, though...

Aldurin
01-24-2011, 08:11 PM
And the server is out again. And dammit I was in the middle of torching my creeper-infested roof.

EDIT: I still see some remnants of that fire from yesterday, I'll get rid of it later if I deem it a safe activity.

Pip Boy
01-24-2011, 11:26 PM
YOU WILL NEVER BE SAFE AGAIN. THE CREEPERS HAVE FORMED AN ALLIANCE WITH THE TREES. GODS HELP THOSE POOR SOULS WHO'VE NOT YET ESCAPED THIS DESOLATE LAND, FOR SOON THERE WILL ONLY BE DUST AND THE REMNANTS OF A DEAD WORLD.

But not all hope is lost! The Gods have granted me a vision of the future and shown me how we will escape this ruin and decay. Soon the lost city Atlantis will rise from its resting place beneath the sea to harbor us from the onslaught of the creepers and trees in a perfect underwater world without zombies, skeletons, or those unspeakable arboreal terrors. Join me, Nesscraftians! Join me in the pilgrimage to the NEW WORLD beneath the waves!

Aldurin
01-24-2011, 11:34 PM
Are creepers falling out of trees?

Anyway I'm gonna avoid the server because the lag is making it act weird (I fell a height that killed me in the past and touched lava and didn't take damage, also map loading was slow).

And damn I must be lucky because I only had to fight the one creeper at the door then I left the door unlocked and somehow nothing got inside.

So yeah I'll see how this is going in the morning. Also I'd like to request a temporary lift on the monsters so that we can do final cleanup with that fire. That might help a bit.

Shyria Dracnoir
01-24-2011, 11:54 PM
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu47/skeyemaster/bioshock.jpg

I see no way this could possibly go wrong.

Flarecobra
01-25-2011, 12:20 AM
Ok, took so long to load, that my character fell into the void and died.

Doc ock rokc
01-25-2011, 12:56 AM
Ok, took so long to load, that my character fell into the void and died.

you dont really die to that. the server rectifies. However you loged out with a empty inv so you may have lost your stuff.

Shyria Dracnoir
01-25-2011, 01:06 AM
Either way, monsters have been more trouble than they're worth, especially with regards to playability.

Arhra
01-25-2011, 02:20 AM
I tried logging in and SKELETON IN MY HOUSE.

I'm never leaving a sword out of the quick access menu ever again.

PyrosNine
01-25-2011, 05:51 PM
I don't know if this is the right place to just shoot the breeze about Minecraft stuff, but man am I bummed out.

Was showing my oldest single player 'world' to a friend, after showing him one of my newer generated ones, and after I loaded up the world, I discovered it spawned me nowhere that looked familiar, as In I was on a tower, but it looked different and there was no way to get down.

Then I discover that I was on my tower, but it was as if someone had taken a huge chunk out of it, and replaced it with generated blocks. My entire home, safe for a few mid-air creations afield of it, was gone. The only thing that remained were the relatively recent creations, like my blackrock gate. In fact, the only way I could get back up without building a crude staircase was to travel through the nether to the other doorway. My garden was still there, so were my attempts at a mid-air rollercoaster, and luckily the parts that weren't erased included where I kept my food and tools.

Since my house was built directly on top of my dungeon of tunnels, I was worried about how I'd check if they were there underneath the water, so I entered an old offsite cave entrance, and worked my way into the usual areas.

And things were bad, real bad! I kept getting lost because despite having set markers for myself, because large parts of the tunnels were unrecognizable. I'd see these black walls that wouldn't go away with light (having torches right next to them) and walking into them would generate a new tunnel or cave wall. I eventually did find my own area and climbed it upwards to where my house used to be, even finding my doors and torches, only to find a gravel and stone wall where the ladder to the above used to be.

I had a secondary base far below, where i harvested obsidian and lava, only to find that while the lava and sand markers I had put down were still there in a crude "lava" moat fashion as I had left them, the actual room the lava moat guarded was now solid rock. Even dug into it to see if I could get at the chest that used to be in the room, but no, gone.

Sure, i still had the majority of my stuff (present on my person or in the surviving chest) but in the end, I ended up deleting the old world. It did lack some of the newly generated features, like the biome, snow, new trees, but at the same time it was my first. But it was a shame to my efforts wiped away, as if some interdimensional beast from the nether just came and took a bite out of it, and I didn't feel like letting it limp around, beyond my ability to repair.

Funnily enough, the last time I played I had just created a portal through the nether but I doubt it was to blame. The map was from when Minecraft was made free for a while, back in early Alpha, so I guess one of the new updates must have broke it.

Or all the sand and gravel under my tower collapsed or I dunno!

BLARGH!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4241108/Minecraft/darkportal3.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4241108/Minecraft/Darkportal2.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4241108/Minecraft/Darkportal.jpg
Rest in pieces, tower in the sea!

Also, on a neat tips and tricks ideas, Flaming bonfires with netherrack or just the tops of stumps in an open field (or on the roof of your house) is the best way to farm animals and kill unsightly monsters!

BH5432
01-25-2011, 07:08 PM
Ok in my lil house there by my pit of disposal is two things. One is a cactus farm. there should be block of cactus sitting and waiting. other thing is the obsidieon farm. First bring your own lava. Its big enough to hold an entire inventory of lava except for the quick slots.
Put lava in the bottom and put water on the step.

And please do not use the lava from the pit of disposal. I need somewhere to put all that gravel.

Aldurin
01-25-2011, 08:36 PM
When I try to connect it says that the connection was rejected. Is this a server problem or did I get accidentally banned?

Flarecobra
01-25-2011, 08:41 PM
I can't log in either.

Doc ock rokc
01-25-2011, 08:49 PM
IP changed. and monsters are off

Aldurin
01-25-2011, 10:55 PM
Ok, I've deemed my current place impractical because of recent fall deaths and the distance from the spawn point (I somehow managed to recover my items after a day though), so until I can design a proper suspended mine cart system between there I won't be using it much.

Also server's booting me off after a bit but I'll try to wipe out the remnants of that fire.

EDIT: Actually the lag is making anything impractical and I just got a legitimate crash while on the server. I'll mess around on my single player map until this gets better.

Flarecobra
01-26-2011, 01:08 AM
Little to no lag right now.

And I need some advice: I got two small "Observation Posts" built, one with Cobblestone and one with Wood. Which one looks better?

Aldurin
01-26-2011, 10:40 AM
one with Wood

I just see that becoming victim to the next freak forest fire.

Flarecobra
01-26-2011, 10:58 AM
There's no forest near me.

Aerozord
01-26-2011, 05:29 PM
played abit on the group server and hope I didn't mess anything up, I was in the town mine and accidently broken into another chamber.

right now I am kind of bothered by how my world is full of so many freakin hills, I spent a good chunk of my time just making tunnels

Loyal
01-26-2011, 05:35 PM
Why not use a mixture of both, Flare? Stone base with a wood trim?

Flarecobra
01-26-2011, 05:42 PM
NOTE: I just got a METRIC BUTTLOAD of Redstone dust. Anyone need some?

EDIT: Loyal, the stone ones have a wooden floor.

Aldurin
01-26-2011, 06:03 PM
NOTE: I just got a METRIC BUTTLOAD of Redstone dust. Anyone need some?

That just makes me angry that I can't drag my single-player inventory over to multiplayer, I got like 2 stacks of redstone and several diamonds in this mine I found by obsessively digging sideways about 10 blocks above bedrock (that shit really works).

I also removed the 12 fire blocks that were visible from on top of my base, I don't know if that's making any difference.

Red Fighter 1073
01-26-2011, 06:22 PM
Damn youuuuu! I still have only managed to find like 5 blocks of diamond in all of my hours of playing Minecraft haha. And i would love some of that redstone dust Flare if you still have some. I need to make some automatic door closers. Just go into the attic of the Library and then drop it off if you could.

Aldurin
01-26-2011, 08:17 PM
I have discovered the biggest mine on the map. To enter, just enter the first safe house north of town, go down the mineshaft then take a right when you hit the lava room and enter the hole in the wall. This will give you access to a cave network that has lava, obsidian, iron, coal, gold, redstone, diamond (took what I could find of this), pretty much everything except the lapis watchumacallits. Another (larger) entrance is east of the safe house marked by a torch trail (I'm building a shelter around it right now.

But PLEASE BEWARE OF THE SAND! Near the second entrance is sand that serves as the ceiling for the cave (I don't know why). IF YOU AS MUCH AS PUT A TORCH ON THE SAND IT WILL FALL AND THE CAVE WILL FLOOD FROM THE OVERHEAD OCEAN.

Also I should have torched out everything that wasn't already lit by lava, but I don't believe it's completely monster proofed so take caution when the monsters are on.

Last note: Some of the water flows are serving as elevators because I didn't have ladders on me at the time, please don't plug a flow if it appears to be the only way up somewhere unless you're willing to ladder it.

I already got my shitload from it so you guys are free to ravage it as much as you like.

Aerozord
01-26-2011, 08:22 PM
hey whats that lapis stuff for anyways? I got like 6 of them and cant find a guide that says what to do with it

PyrosNine
01-26-2011, 08:29 PM
They are used for dying sheep wool blue. Blue is the rarest color.

Nikose Tyris
01-26-2011, 08:31 PM
Mix the Blue and the Red dye to create the mightest color known to man.

Aerozord
01-26-2011, 08:38 PM
Mix the Blue and the Red dye to create the mightest color known to man.

mauve?

Doc ock rokc
01-26-2011, 09:03 PM
Guess what Yahtzee loves...or is at least addicted to. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2680-Minecraft)

Locke cole
01-26-2011, 09:09 PM
Hey, does Minecraft work on Macs?

Aldurin
01-26-2011, 09:22 PM
It has a Linux version so there should definitely be a Mac version.

Also I want to report a possible griefer on the server. Doc reported damage to his mine tracks (the details sounded like it wasn't a creeper). Also I found the tunnels under the library had their torches removed (I retorched them as I found, but again don't trust my torching methods).

Pip Boy
01-26-2011, 09:36 PM
It has a Linux version so there should definitely be a Mac version.

Also I want to report a possible griefer on the server. Doc reported damage to his mine tracks (the details sounded like it wasn't a creeper). Also I found the tunnels under the library had their torches removed (I retorched them as I found, but again don't trust my torching methods).

I was in the village a few days ago when a creeper blew up an area around the minetracks. I replaced what I could, but some of the mine-track pieces were completely destroyed rather than just made into pickup items.

Doc ock rokc
01-26-2011, 09:42 PM
I saw that one Pip the one I am concerned about was the one by spawn. Mobs don't usually get close to spawn (as a general rule on how the spawn) there was no structure damage around ether which just means that someone is being a prick.

PyrosNine
01-26-2011, 10:30 PM
Minecraft does indeed work on macs! I have a separate set of worlds on a school mac computer just for such an occasion as I"m stuck studying and want to build a giant castle in the sky!

Eltargrim
01-26-2011, 10:34 PM
Question: can Minecraft be run off of a flash drive, such that I could take a cleanly formatted computer, plug in my flash drive, and have Minecraft?

Doc ock rokc
01-26-2011, 10:39 PM
Question: can Minecraft be run off of a flash drive, such that I could take a cleanly formatted computer, plug in my flash drive, and have Minecraft?

when all else fails Try it.

Nikose Tyris
01-26-2011, 10:43 PM
It can, but you'll need to drop the actual level files [if playing single player] onto the computer, and copy them back when you're done.

Grimpond
01-26-2011, 11:03 PM
just got disconnected

EVILNess
01-26-2011, 11:50 PM
ip is different

Aldurin
01-27-2011, 12:15 AM
ip is different

Is this a musical chairs thing or do we do this to outrun assholes who want to fuck up our shit?

EVILNess
01-27-2011, 01:18 AM
It's an isp issue.

Doc ock rokc
01-27-2011, 01:31 AM
Repaired station and tracks the station should have plenty of carts for a while.

Flarecobra
01-27-2011, 12:05 PM
Will whoever it is that keeps going through the fort and leaving my doors open, please close it behind you, especally the one that leads into my little underground home/mine entry?

Aerozord
01-27-2011, 12:25 PM
I still cant connect, anyone else having trouble?

to be specific it keeps timing out

Flarecobra
01-27-2011, 01:30 PM
No problems here.

Do you have the right IP?

Aerozord
01-27-2011, 04:19 PM
that was it, no idea why it suddenly changed on me

BH5432
01-27-2011, 05:22 PM
it randomly changes for everyone. its a good Idea to check here befor you log in every time to make sure its up to date

Flarecobra
01-27-2011, 05:23 PM
Ok, I have plans (And materials) to make a bridge across the bay, and I was thinking about setting it just south of the cactus farm. Anyone mind that/have plans for that plot?

Aldurin
01-27-2011, 05:54 PM
I'm gonna figure out a more local location to establish my own structure, since the closest things to town that I've built are those mine entrances, also it's a pain to run back to that mountain when I fall off the edge.

Also I heard there's a town quest or something (I completely missed it my first time in Hamlet). Any details on where to start/how it works?

EDIT: Fuck you server, fuck you for lagging then not loading chunks fast enough then suddenly bumping me off five minutes in.

Flarecobra
01-27-2011, 08:12 PM
Ness said there will be lag ingame as there is heavy internet use.

BH5432
01-27-2011, 08:31 PM
Translating to him Downloading porn :3:

Aldurin
01-27-2011, 09:07 PM
really if it becomes that much of a problem he needs to dedicate a second computer and connection to it.

EVILNess
01-27-2011, 09:16 PM
really if it becomes that much of a problem he needs to dedicate a second computer and connection to it.

I'll tell you what, you pay for the extra internet connection and I will consider it.

Marc v4.0
01-27-2011, 10:19 PM
Cat fight!

Flarecobra
01-27-2011, 11:44 PM
The Red Mage Memorial Bridge is now complete!

Aerozord
01-28-2011, 01:41 AM
added something south of the pyramid, hope everyone likes it

[EDIT] whoever made that glass mine shaft, sorry I accidently dug into it, though its just a small hole so I just left it and put up a sign. If its not ok let me know and I'll plug it up

Aldurin
01-28-2011, 11:18 AM
I'll tell you what, you pay for the extra internet connection and I will consider it.

I meant for your porn.

Doc ock rokc
01-28-2011, 01:08 PM
hey ness did the server change ips again?

Aldurin
01-28-2011, 05:49 PM
Nope, still works for me.

EDIT: Still lagging on things like item pickups and chest menus, then going unresponsive for half a minute before kicking me.

Aerozord
01-28-2011, 07:17 PM
it didn't before though, whatever happened its fixed, atleast the logging on

Bobbey
01-28-2011, 08:18 PM
I've recently bought Minecraft and I was wondering if I could join you guys (if you don't mind of course)? I'm already playing it on a server between me and my boyfriend and we've built a small world as of now, so I know most of the basics of the game. My username is Bobbeyjazz if you wish to add me. Thanks.

EVILNess
01-28-2011, 08:21 PM
Sure go for it, join all you want.

However, I seemed to have triggered some kind of catastrophic cascade resonance with the computer i run the server on about 5 minutes ago.

So.. uh... BRB? (Hopefully)

Bobbey
01-28-2011, 08:24 PM
Thanks a lot! And I hope everything's fine for your computer/server.

Pip Boy
01-28-2011, 08:52 PM
Sure go for it, join all you want.

However, I seemed to have triggered some kind of catastrophic cascade resonance with the computer i run the server on about 5 minutes ago.

So.. uh... BRB? (Hopefully)

Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll roll a one.

Flarecobra
01-28-2011, 08:53 PM
Wouldn't that cause Xen monsters to start appearing?

Aldurin
01-28-2011, 09:12 PM
Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll roll a one.

Wouldn't that cause Xen monsters to start appearing?

I'm all for it as long as we get better weaponry (what size of crafting box would it take to craft a minigun?)

EDIT: Actually this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTqsVa0YnpU) is close enough.

Aerozord
01-28-2011, 11:43 PM
huh... now the sites like, gone. I went to go play and all I get is a white page

[edit] works now, still odd

Aldurin
01-29-2011, 03:13 PM
I'm getting a "connection refused" thing whenever I try to get on the server.

Flarecobra
01-29-2011, 04:22 PM
It's been down since yesterday. *Points to Ness's post mentioning computer issues*

Aerozord
01-29-2011, 04:50 PM
for when it is back, is the nether accessible? Was thinking as we expand to use it to make a few waypoints to make travel easier. Probably right at the spawn

Flarecobra
01-29-2011, 05:48 PM
It's not avalable for Multiplayer.

Bobbey
01-29-2011, 09:40 PM
I can't seem to able to connect to the server. Is the IP adress the same one as on the first page? I keep getting ''Failed to connect to the server. Connection refused:connect'' as a message.

Flarecobra
01-30-2011, 12:12 AM
Ness said it's down. He usually posts when it's back up. Though I get the feeling it's going to be a long time before it's up.

Bobbey
01-30-2011, 12:23 AM
Ness said it's down. He usually posts when it's back up. Though I get the feeling it's going to be a long time before it's up.

Oh okay, that's a shame :/ I was looking foward to joining you guys for the first time. I have minecraft here, but let's just say that I mostly play alone, and it gets kinda stale after a while. I bet you guys have some really interesting and orginal works/buildings that you've constructed. I know that many of us here have a lot of imagination and creativity, so I'm certain that most of what I'll be seeing when the server comes back up will be some very interesting building concepts.

BH5432
01-30-2011, 01:36 AM
It is alot funner to play with other people on the map.

Aerozord
01-30-2011, 02:37 AM
how exactly is one set up anyways? While I couldn't run one continually I was thinking of setting one up for my friends to set times to meet on it

Zilla
01-30-2011, 01:03 PM
I am FSS_Zilla, I'd like the whitelisting!

Edit: Oh... it's down. Bugger.

Still, keep it in mind.

Doc ock rokc
01-30-2011, 01:22 PM
whitelist is Also down.

EVILNess
01-30-2011, 01:26 PM
Server is shakily up.

Let's say there was fire involved as to the why the server was down.

Marc v4.0
01-30-2011, 01:36 PM
a server fire or a computer fire?

Flarecobra
01-30-2011, 01:36 PM
The computer itself caught on fire? Or there was a fire where it was at?

Pip Boy
01-30-2011, 01:38 PM
The fire is probably metaphorical.

Ness, stop downloading porn and put the server back up.

EVILNess
01-30-2011, 02:09 PM
The fire was not metaphorical.

The server is back up.

Aerozord
01-30-2011, 02:14 PM
so our world was so awesome it caused spontaneous combustion? I say rule of cool makes up for a few lost days

Side question, I got some friends interested in playing. Is it cool if I invite them to our server?

Aldurin
01-30-2011, 04:44 PM
Please limit your pyromania around computers please.

Arhra
01-30-2011, 05:10 PM
EVILNess, thank you for putting up with fires and constant demands about the server to let us all mess around in the world of Minecraft together.

Zilla
01-30-2011, 07:08 PM
I built a drill that pierces the heavens. I was starting to work on a castle in the clouds, and I decided to explore. I found some neat stuff.... found another ladder to the very bottom of the map, and.... then... fell into lava and lost everything >_<

FML.

Aldurin
01-31-2011, 12:11 AM
Wait, where did you guys get the Netherack and Glowstone if the Nether isn't in multiplayer?

Red Fighter 1073
01-31-2011, 12:16 AM
We had pre-made kits, one of which was Nether materials, on the server before the Beta update. Typing something like /kit Nether gave you 10 of each material. But that capability was due to an SMP mod, which I guess hasn't been updated yet. So kits don't work right now.

Aldurin
01-31-2011, 11:22 AM
Is there still a stockpile of that stuff somewhere? I'd like a couple blocks of Netherack to use as entrance security (how's the creeper supposed to wait at the door if it's on fire?)

Flarecobra
01-31-2011, 11:45 AM
Should I point out that it's not exactly sturdy stuff? I've seen it get mined without any tools in a fairly quick mannor...

Aldurin
01-31-2011, 11:47 AM
Should I point out that it's not exactly sturdy stuff? I've seen it get mined without any tools in a fairly quick mannor...

Well my defence ideas are either some amount of Netherack on the path to my entrance or a lever-triggered lava flow.

Doc ock rokc
01-31-2011, 05:46 PM
You know a cheap way to do a good lava flow is with Gravel or sand and torches. It can be a bitch to re set up but its not hard at all.

Flarecobra
01-31-2011, 05:49 PM
Hey Bobbey, found a nice bit of shallow water to the West of the spawn. I set up a bunch of torches if you want to check it out.

Aldurin
01-31-2011, 05:49 PM
You know a cheap way to do a good lava flow is with Gravel or sand and torches. It can be a bitch to re set up but its not hard at all.

I was thinking behind iron doors, with levers to activate and deactivate.

Loyal
01-31-2011, 05:51 PM
Fluids don't go through doors, open or shut.

Aldurin
01-31-2011, 06:01 PM
Fluids don't go through doors, open or shut.

Son of a bitch, screw it I'll make a bridge thing with an eternal water flow that will push off enemies.

Doc ock rokc
01-31-2011, 06:01 PM
I was thinking behind iron doors, with levers to activate and deactivate.

I was thinking this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAnZ_HLocnU)

Aerozord
01-31-2011, 06:18 PM
You know a cheap way to do a good lava flow is with Gravel or sand and torches. It can be a bitch to re set up but its not hard at all.
can you elaborate on that?

Flarecobra
01-31-2011, 07:48 PM
Soooo... Just so you all know, Ness made me an Op.

Marc v4.0
01-31-2011, 08:57 PM
With monsters being a no-go, everyone racing to gather as much of the non-renewable ore resources as possible for themselves, lapis requiring expanding the map a great deal due to rarity and demand with dyes in general coming from nonrenewable sources, and the desire for our little town to be more like a town I have a suggestion to make.

Let us institute a trade system, where-in we can exchange renewable/farmable resources for hard-to-acquire lovlies that we all know we want anyway.

Exchange rates are something that will have to be worked out, with Diamond the prime suspect for being the most expensive to acquire, and wools and dyes exchangeable anywhere from 1-1 to 4-1.

Wheat, bread, extra dyes, wools, leathers, stones, coals, woods, and food exchanged in this way could go towards community projects over personal projects or a general "give to the poor new people" outreach program.

All of this requiring a system OP or some such to handle noming up our items and handing out the goods.

Aldurin
01-31-2011, 09:07 PM
That sounds too complex and I'd rather just mine shit.

Marc v4.0
01-31-2011, 09:10 PM
Way to really just miss the point there

akaSM
01-31-2011, 09:25 PM
I like the idea, that way we won't get stuff just for free. Maybe we can trade our common stuff to the admins and they give is things that are hard to get (lapis) or just a pain in the ass to mine (obsidian)

Aldurin
01-31-2011, 10:50 PM
Actually now that I think about it I'm gonna need shitloads of iron to install an underground mine track to my base. So I'd like to know the exchange rate for that when paying in redstone and gold.

Doc ock rokc
01-31-2011, 11:06 PM
we could to the Iconomy mod.

Marc v4.0
01-31-2011, 11:11 PM
I don't think we need to try and juggle an extra mod when a general list of items and rates will do the job just fine.

Mod compatibility is a bit "muh, when it is done", and that has worked wonders for our Server wrapper.

Doc ock rokc
01-31-2011, 11:14 PM
To be fair we could have had a wrapper long ago (with Bukket) but it doesn't allow kits (which I think we can live with)
Plus Iconomy is Exactly what you want except we don't have to trek across the world to deliver it. You can exchange items at rates and bid on rare ones.
Plus I have MORE then provided several Fully automated Coblestone generators Planted a entire orchard and have worked my ass off getting bonemeal to keep plant production up
I have provided Plenty of tools to build the best you can!
also I am Modifying my Mob farmer into a caci farmer!

Marc v4.0
01-31-2011, 11:23 PM
An economy wasn't exactly what i had in mind, since the OPs would still have to inject things in or it doesn't actually solve any problem BUT execution. Waiting around for an OP to show up and happen to auction something for maybe a chance of getting it seems a right sharp pain in the ass then just sending a PM saying "hey, I need some of this in exchange for this, when is a good time?" HERP DERP TRADE SYSTEM

As well, the whole idea of adding in currency speaks back to my concerns for when things get updated and the potentiality that we all crash trying to load because we don't have some custom thing that the mod had but no longer works.

Aldurin
01-31-2011, 11:41 PM
Also I should have a shitload long path to my base done by tomorrow, walking it would be crazy and stupid so I'll install mine tracks at some point . . . maybe.

Doc ock rokc
02-01-2011, 12:28 AM
can you elaborate on that?

Also I should have a shitload long path to my base done by tomorrow, walking it would be crazy and stupid so I'll install mine tracks at some point . . . maybe.

want me to provide a long distance booster?

BH5432
02-01-2011, 12:48 AM
I might use this.... When I finally finish exploring my endless cave system

Aldurin
02-01-2011, 11:16 AM
want me to provide a long distance booster?

Right now I just need a general idea of where to mine out (I could make it a two lane if I was crazy enough). I'm currently trying to deal with a deep lava pool right in my intended path, so I'll be delayed.

EDIT: Got around the lava problem, currently hit the giant cave network not too far from town, will continue to dig later today.

EDIT2: Made it into town, dug up to surface. I still recommend just walking to my place via surface until I install the tracks.

Aerozord
02-01-2011, 07:14 PM
want me to provide a long distance booster?

yes, in fact I wished nether was enabled just so I could use it for wormholes.

On the trade system, I have found my fellow forumites are fairly generous. If they have it to spare they'll just give you it. I mean thats why we have the armory in the first place, and admins can just magic up rare ones. Long as someone doesn't want to make a solid diamond pyramid I dont see it mattering.

akaSM
02-01-2011, 07:18 PM
Long as someone doesn't want to make a solid diamond pyramid I dont see it mattering.

But I wanted to remake my house with diamond and obsidian :(

Flarecobra
02-01-2011, 07:44 PM
I got some Obsidian, and I found a TON of naturally made Obsidian.

Aldurin
02-01-2011, 07:49 PM
I have seven stacks of redstone I'm willing to trade for iron (ore or ingots), state your rates and I will consider.

akaSM
02-02-2011, 01:07 AM
I got some Obsidian, and I found a TON of naturally made Obsidian.

I did too, but it's a PITA to mine D:

Flarecobra
02-02-2011, 01:44 AM
Not argueing here.

EVILNess
02-02-2011, 01:54 PM
Okay, fuck you AT&T. They cut off my internet over a bullshit charge I haven't gotten a bill for. It should be back on sometime tomorrow. Maybe.

Flarecobra
02-02-2011, 02:41 PM
You know, AT&T actually called in a bill collector on me while I was in Iraq because some smuck lost the fax I sent them showing that I was going to be deployed and needed my stuff suspended... THEN on top of that they added some charge that they never told me about.

I told them "Fine, I'll pay, but you've now lost a customer because of this bullshit."

So yeah, I can give AT&T a great big "Kiss my ass."

Doc ock rokc
02-03-2011, 11:35 PM
Well I have been board and Iced in to my home so I played minecraft off and on. Figured out something pecular.
Ghasts attack your camera no your player.
What this means is if you go into the neather and hit F5 and make sure a ghast isnt right behind you they will keep missing.

Aldurin
02-03-2011, 11:57 PM
Well I have been board and Iced in to my home so I played minecraft off and on. Figured out something pecular.
Ghasts attack your camera no your player.
What this means is if you go into the neather and hit F5 and make sure a ghast isnt right behind you they will keep missing.

I will keep that in mind, does it work with Skeletons too?

Shyria Dracnoir
02-04-2011, 12:20 AM
Ghasts attack your camera no your player.
What this means is if you go into the neather and hit F5 and make sure a ghast isnt right behind you they will keep missing.

So wait, does this mean Ghasts can see through the fourth wall and are actively trying to get the player themselves? :crying:

Doc ock rokc
02-04-2011, 12:56 AM
I will keep that in mind, does it work with Skeletons too?
Haven't tried But i have been shirking my responsibilities to much to try it myself.
So wait, does this mean Ghasts can see through the fourth wall and are actively trying to get the player themselves? :crying:
Oh shy Their not all bad (http://ben-hurr.deviantart.com/art/Minecraft-Ghast-183544320?q=boost:popular%20Minecraft&qo=8)

Shyria Dracnoir
02-04-2011, 01:29 AM
Been faffing about in my single player file for a while, and found something interesting while exploring a desert biome to the south of my spawn area.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/sandshaft2.png

I stumbled upon this through a side shaft, so the sand hasn't fallen. And what's below the sand, you ask?

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/sandshaft.png

I'm just as curious as you are.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/sandshaft3.png

I've established a temporary base of operations near a spring on the opposite side of the shaft from where the above images were taken. Luckily for me, I had just enough wood on me to construct a workbench, though chests will have to wait. For the honor of the Royal NPF Geological Society and my own glory, I will continue my exploration of the desert caves and provide regular updates. What wonders could lurk in the dusty depths...

Grimpond
02-04-2011, 12:51 PM
Cold, uncaring death.

Aerozord
02-04-2011, 12:58 PM
I discovered a similar phenomenon in the multiplayer server in the south west and have concluded the following. When the map is first generated sand and gravel will stay where its created even if there is nothing under it.

This is only true for those specific blocks, break the bottom one and all those above it fall

Flarecobra
02-04-2011, 01:24 PM
Apperentally it's not that rare, I've encountered it on both the Single-player servers I've been on, and on the old multiplayer map we had.

Pip Boy
02-04-2011, 02:10 PM
Furthermore, destroying even one block connected to a wide area of such sand can cause a massive cave-in, not just the one column sinking. I've actually killed myself by making the mistake of destroying a single such block from below and bringing the whole roof down on myself.

Doc ock rokc
02-04-2011, 02:16 PM
Furthermore, destroying even one block connected to a wide area of such sand can cause a massive cave-in, not just the one column sinking. I've actually killed myself by making the mistake of destroying a single such block from below and bringing the whole roof down on myself.

thats why you should always make a 3x3 area of just torches underneath the thing. because when sand lands on a torch that is on the ground it becomes producible block form.

Aldurin
02-04-2011, 05:57 PM
We have a perfect example of the roof deathtrap right inside the east entrance of the northern mine. I'd manually take measures to prevent it myself but it extends to several rooms and is probably very deep.

We could always mine that section bare, then seal off and trigger a cave-in in that spot.

EDIT: I noticed that the IP changed but I still can't connect. Is it up yet or is the change in anticipation of the server being up?

Viridis
02-05-2011, 03:45 AM
Currently dyeing sheep and punching them.

Please add Intrepidvector to the whitelist when the server's back.

Flarecobra
02-05-2011, 10:44 PM
How's the fight agenst AT&T going Ness?

Aerozord
02-05-2011, 11:46 PM
crap, wierdest thing just happened to me. I was digging a mineshaft, simple 1x1 with ladders, when a chicken fell down it. weird thing was it then grabbed onto my character and began flying me up the shaft.

managed to get atleast part of it recorded though (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q8ObzbBCzs)

if you hit it a few times it drops you, sadly I already hit it before I recorded so it died when I tried again

Aldurin
02-05-2011, 11:56 PM
I propose that chicken powered speed shafts should be constructed in our mines for more convenience.

Aerozord
02-06-2011, 12:03 AM
when multiplayer server is back up I would like to test it some more. especially to find out if the ladders are needed to trigger it

Flarecobra
02-07-2011, 06:38 PM
Something tells me it might be a while before it comes back up.

Aldurin
02-07-2011, 09:07 PM
Dammit I want to build shit where others can see it!!