Attention All Minecraft Whores 2: The Beta-ing

[EVILNess]

So considering the other thread was 40 pages long and since Minecraft's Beta status is now in full effect, I figured it was time for a new thread.

Look here for IP.
76.202.141.58:25565

Mod List:
1. Treble0096 (That's me)
2. Sellers2967 (That's my roommate)
3. Wigmund (It's... Wigmund... for better or worse (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1095057&postcount=372))

Rules of the Server:
1. If it would get you banned on this forum, then it probably isn't a good thing to do on the server.
2. Don't Grief.
3. Don't be a dick.
4. Don't "tattle." Look legit complaints are alright, if a guy is harassing you with racial slurs, Screencap it for proof and I will BAN HIM SO HARD, but if a guy is stealing from your boxes... handle it. PVP is on, so kill him. Use an Axe while you were a pumpkin on your head, if it will make you feel better.

And that's it as far as rules.

Also I was thinking of promoting another mod, discuss it among yourselves about who would abuse it the least (Cause let's face it, you all will.) and who would be the best.

Other notes:
1. Same map, I don't intend to change it unless something terrible happens to this one or we as a group decide to change it.
2. Still a white list in place, so if you did not ask to be put on it before you need to let me know.
3. Same kits, warps, etc...

Enjoy and let me know if I forgot anything.

[Kim]

Username is Nonsy and you should Whitelist me.

EDIT: Thanks much.

[Arhra]

Hmm, anyone else having trouble with chests?

The chest inventory screen takes forever to appear when you right click on them and it's very buggy on whether you actually put something in or take it out.

Was making some good progress on my new place, but then ran out of cobblestone and couldn't get any out of my chests.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Me and Arhra have been busy out in the desert near the Great Rift. You'll know it when you see it.

[Bells]

I'm also finishing a small project by the desert, if you guys can see it, come by, pay a visit! Feedback would be nice too.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Hey Ness, the Nether portal near the spawn doesnt appear to be working. I stand right it in and wait, but nothing happens. Is the Nether turned off for everyone or just the server?

[Ryong]

I'd like to get added to the whitelist so I can play like once per week.

Y'know, 'cause of lag and stuff.

[EVILNess]

The nether doesn't work in multiplayer yet.

Also, yeah I'll put you on the list Ryong. I am at work atm though I'll be home a bit later.

[Pip Boy]

The nether doesn't work in multiplayer yet.

Also, yeah I'll put you on the list Ryong. I am at work atm though I'll be home a bit later.

If you're really interested, a friend of mine runs a multiplayer server that has the nether enabled using a mod that connects 2 servers. He has to manually set up all the nether portals, so it isn't 100% operational, but if you are really interested in getting the nether working, it would be worth looking into.

Requesting whitelist.
Username: Zaggalon

[Bells]

So... you guys know the Desert, right? Ok.

I made this "House of Alchemy", also my house! You can't miss it, it's up in a hill in the middle of the desert, and it's made mostly of Nether Materials (glowstone makes all the walls) also, there is Nether Fire on the Roof and it's filled with torches everywhere,

So.. you can't really miss it.

It looks like this

http://i54.tinypic.com/29gbx39.jpg

It's not done though, it needs Doors and Furniture, right now it has a couple of personal Chests a Crafting table and a Smelt table. Feel free to use it (don't steal my stuff please!)

Also, 3 Things:

1- Underneat all the sand, there is actually a "Garage" of sorts, that cuts the hill horizontally from side to side. So it won't cave in. I might do something there eventually, but if you have an idea for it, feel free to use it. Just please, don't dig up.

2- Right next to the house, to the right side, there is a decent area free. It's entirely sand, it's a plain area, completely leveled and 2 Blocks lower than my house. That area is also free to use, if you like. it would be nice for a watchtower or somesuch. Just please, don't invade the house space.

3- Also, right next to the house, and this one is tricky to pick, there is a 1 square hole. It's a simple hole and it goes straight down. It's LONG. Like, REAL long. But you can fall in it, because there is water at the bottom.

There is also a HUGE Cave complex , filled with Ores down there. It's absolutely massive and i haven't seen anything like that yet. Tons of Lava and water too.

So, if anyone wants to work under there, knock yourselves out, i places a few Torches around. Trust me, there is a LOT of room down there.

[EVILNess]

Requesting whitelist.
Username: Zaggalon

You were already on the whitelist, are you not able to connect?

[Ryong]

Woo I have started to build Ember.

[Marc v4.0]

Methinks we need an updated map

[Bells]

Oh, yeah, can we get a 2010 map compilation of the multiplayer map? You guys use Cartograph to render the Map Images, right?

[Ryong]

Aw I was totally trying to make some chests but then I guess the server went down.

Edit: Or maybe I just couldn't connect to it for a while?

[EVILNess]

Map in fist post.

[Marc v4.0]

Hey, Captain Ness, it took about 4 tries to download the full map off that site. It kept shortchanging me by half the map or more.

So I put it on my DB: Link (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4549162/custom-map-normal-day.png)

[Bells]

Ok, first... who wrote Bitches in the ocean?

Second... i've explored VERY little stuff!

Also, Hardly any Ice Adventures, but i think i see some fire in the icy poles...?

[Marc v4.0]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4549162/vaulttechprop.jpg

This general area to the South East has been claimed by the Vault-Tech Corporation and its shareholders

[Ryong]

Ok, first... who wrote Bitches in the ocean?

I am unsure. In the time interval between me first playing and me coming back for Beta, it just showed up in front of my cave. At least I know where it is on the map now, though.

[ShadowAngemon]

On behalf of Vault-Tec I would like to deny any and all claims of near-catastrophic failure in last night's construction. The current project is progressing on schedule and is 100% safe and guaranteed.

[Ryong]

Anyone besides me always lose 2 hearts when logging in?

[ShadowAngemon]

Looked like I was taking falling damage when I logged in sometimes last night.

[Flarecobra]

So I got Minecraft, and within a minute of starting... I discovered the perfect place to build a bunker so I can get started making stuff so I can build up something nice in safety.

http://sadpanda.us/images/328201-DKJNBPI.png

It's a wonderful thing.

[Pip Boy]

You were already on the whitelist, are you not able to connect?

Yes, I seem to be getting assorted error messages every time I try.

[Flarecobra]

Ok, I now feel confident enough in the basics....

Username: flarecobra
Whitelist please.

[EVILNess]

Welcome to a very exclusive group Flare...

You know what? I can't type that with a straight face after letting Pip and Noncon play on my server.

[Marc v4.0]

or Bucky

You don't know what sort of shame you should be feeling.

Keep timing out trying to connect

[Flarecobra]

Yeah, can't connect either.

In the meantime.... *Starts looking over the map*

[EVILNess]

That's my fault... The ip changed again and I didn't update it. Should be fine now.

[Flarecobra]

Thank you! :D

Anyway, I set up a temporary bunker a little bit West of the pyramids. It'll be a temporary base for me until I can locate a nice plot of land for myself.

EDIT: Damn farm animals keep on invading... so I built up a little thing to keep them out.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Screencapping this for Thadius since his computer can't process the awesomeness that is Minecraft. Let's see what everybody's favorite assassin lord has gotten up to.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius1.jpg

View from the spawn. Pretty, but not what we want. What we also don't want is to go wandering off in the wrong direction. What we want to do...

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius2.jpg

Is turn around and face thisaways. Climb up the hill until you see...

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius3.jpg

Keep moving straight ahead, slighty hugging to the right of the big sandy dune in the distance.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius4.jpg

When you reach a tiny shack in the middle of a burning wasteland of smoking timber and the occassional flaming pig, you're there.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius5.jpg

The shack has a button operated iron door to keep beasties out. Right on top is a glass floor to keep people from bungling down the shaft when they walk in. Stairs are to the left.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius6.jpg

Thadius has a small area carved out at this point in the mining shaft. We'll come back to it in a moment.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius7.jpghttp://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius8.jpg

Further down, we hit a cavern system. Thad cleared most of the goodies out and stuck these doors in to keep monsters out in case he turns the difficulty up.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius9.jpg

The shaft itself continues down a little bit further, but...

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius10.jpg

We don't go there anymore.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius11.jpg

Anyhoo, back up to this door we spotted on our way down. This leads to Thad's general living and crafting area.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius12.jpg

View from right inside the door.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius13.jpg

The main crafting area. Chests hold building material and fine craftables.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius14.jpg

The lava incinerator. Thadius uses this to dispose of broken junk, unwanted material, and insolent minions who ask inconvient questions.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius15.jpg

Down the ladder we saw to the right a few pictures up, we come to another crafting area. This area is for food and current ongoing projects.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius16.jpg

Through a door to the right and behind of the last picture, we come to a nice little library with shelves and reading desks.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius17.jpg

We've seen the bottom, but what's all the way up there?

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius18.jpg

After a veeeeeeeeery long climb, we come to the top of the tower. There are two doors here, one to the left and one to the right.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius19.jpg

To the left (from the picture's view) is an obsidian observation deck, affectionately named "Suicide Point."

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius20.jpg

View from the ledge. Thad actually jumped off of here for lulz after he was finished with it (don't worry, he stashed all his stuff beforehand).

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius22.jpg

To the right is a peacefull little sky garden. I messed up the screencap with it, but behind me there's a few rows of reeds in addition to the wheat.

And what does this monstrosity look like from the ground?

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/Thadius23.jpg

Impressive. Just don't ask why it looks like a giant cigarette. We didn't plan it like that, it just happened....

[Grimpond]

Impressive!

Also, if you could whitelist Grimpond, that'd be great

[Thadius]

You know what the real problem is with stepping away from Minecraft for a day?

You come up with all sorts of ideas that you can't wait to implement. Fortunately I do have a notepad here. I just hope that I have enough paper...

[Doc ock rokc]

I have been trying the make the tallest tower in the server. While it's true that Mine is it's....not pretty. anyone willing to spare a lot of tnt to see a spectacular demolition???

Im the huge thing north of Wigmand's domain

[Sage Harpuia]

I decided to try out Minecraft after an impulse buy awhile back... so can you whitelist me? Username: SageHarpuia

[Flarecobra]

I am in need of Neatherrock to complete my Barbeque circle.

EDIT: Shyria helped me out.

[Viridis]

Shyria, I suggest making some columns to hold that that garden up, just for the look of the thing. The lava+water trick would be a quick way to do it, despite the small chance you could set fire to even MORE of the landscape.

[Wigmund]

I have been trying the make the tallest tower in the server.

Too late, the observation tower on my house is the tallest anything can be due to Minecraft height limits.


EDIT: Server collapsed on me :(

[Flarecobra]

Working fine here...

[EVILNess]

The /kill command still won't work.

In other news, fire still works wonders.

Isn't that right Shyria?

[Flarecobra]

It's down.

[EVILNess]

Yeah, it crashed. It's up again.

[BitVyper]

Minecraft question: Anyone know if you can get grass to grow underground? I've opened the roof completely on this chamber, so it gets sun. I got a sapling to grow there.

The chamber in question:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/BitVyper/Minecraft.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/BitVyper/Minecraft2.jpg

[Loyal]

I believe the dirt tile needs to be connected to a grass-growing dirt tile to grow grass itself. I don't know how many vertical levels the grass can "spread" across.

So you'd need a rather long and time-consuming chain of dirt -> grass tiles to get it down to wherever you want it.

[BitVyper]

So you'd need a rather long and time-consuming chain of dirt -> grass tiles to get it down to wherever you want it.

I cleared that chamber out one block at a time, and it is enormous even without all the little tunnels you don't see in those pictures. I clearly have nothing better to do.

[Loyal]

Actually, since you have that one hanging tile of grass there, a simple dirt stairway down should work.

http://i55.tinypic.com/24n2lmt.png

(image not to scale, obviously.)

[Bells]

quick question here... i was considering to put up a really tall tower. But i'm not very good at vertical building... what techniques you guys recommend? i was thinking about a simple Cobblestone Scaffold with wooden stairs for access, but would that be the best way?

[Flarecobra]

Don't forget the "Sneak" button, which is left-shift by default. Keeps you from falling off of ledges. Or makes it very hard to.

[Doc ock rokc]

quick question here... i was considering to put up a really tall tower. But i'm not very good at vertical building... what techniques you guys recommend? i was thinking about a simple Cobblestone Scaffold with wooden stairs for access, but would that be the best way?

this is what I do (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqQI-2aWfog)...Although at times it doesn't work.

[BitVyper]

Actually, since you have that one hanging tile of grass there, a simple dirt stairway down should work.

http://i55.tinypic.com/24n2lmt.png

(image not to scale, obviously.)

Thanks for the advice. Went out for a bit, so I'm gonna go do that now.

[Red Fighter 1073]

Just started building a mineshaft to get some iron so that I can hopefully make a good rollercoaster some time soon. Any suggestions as to how I should do it or where I should build it are definitely welcome.

And just for the hell out of it, I'm trying to build a huge tower out of trees stacked one on top of the other. Anyone know if there are any special requirements in order for the tree saplings to grow? It's out in broad daylight and I put my second sapling on top of a dirt block, which is resting on the tip of the tree, so I'm hoping that it will work out fine.

[Pip Boy]

Pip Boy's back! Hide the children!

[Red Fighter 1073]

Damn, server's down.

And in other news, I am never going to build a stairway from underneath the ground to water level ever again.

[Flarecobra]

When does an updated map get put up usually?

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Well, it appears that Thadius has made some major updates to his headquarters and slipped out for coffee. Let's poke around a bit, shall we?

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/1.jpg

The first thing we notice is a massive wall of cacti and a stone entry arch.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/2.jpg

Going through the door and up through the arch, we come to here. Looks like this lever can seal access in and out of the base; there's no way to open it from the outside. We were lucky Thad left it open.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/3.jpg

Down the shaft a ways, near the caverns, we come across this curious little sign. Now just how does Thadius think he can grow trees and cacti underground?

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/4.jpg

Quite well, actually.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/5.jpg

Another view of the tower farm. Thad's somehow managed to import grass all the way up here.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/6.jpg

Back in the library. Let's blatantly ignore the posted sign, shall we?

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/7.jpg

Pretty standard as far as living quarters go, and yet that painting intrigues me. Seems there's a draft from behind it...

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/8.jpg

Just what is he hiding in here?

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/9.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/10.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/11.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/12.jpg

Yeah, not touching that. I may be stupid, but I'm not stupid. Big difference.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/13.jpg

And last but not least, the armory, found by taking another ladder down from the bedroom. Just barely audible is the sound of the hellgate portal. Connection?

[Doc ock rokc]

Oh Tell Sellers I died and my shit got covered in lava. so I couldn't finish his/her stuff. Sorry.

[BitVyper]

So yeah, I just got this the other day, and I've played it more or less nonstop. What a fun game.

[Flarecobra]

You know... at first I thought about making a little area based off of a game such as SMB or IWBTG, but I'm not quite sure how to pull off the insta-kill areas... or the Jumping areas.

[BitVyper]

You know... at first I thought about making a little area based off of a game such as SMB or IWBTG, but I'm not quite sure how to pull off the insta-kill areas... or the Jumping areas.

I actually just finished a small platforming area. The only thing that makes it tough is that you can't jump very far, so you're pretty limited as to how far apart you can put platforms.

[Flarecobra]

Hence the quandry.

[Red Fighter 1073]

Hmm a little Ninja Warrior-esque obstacle course with death pits and the like doesn't seem like a bad idea. Instead of just straight jumping from block to block, it could involve long jumps to reach ladders that are just above lava pits or something like that. Or maybe swimming against a heavy current that is just on the edge of a death pit. Or maybe if you're actually able to pull of a flowing lava trap, you could have a room filled with that Nether block type that makes you move really slowly and you're supposed to race to the end of the room while either avoiding flowing lava or maybe the room being filled with water causing you to drown.

And as far as insta-kill, 2 block deep lava pits are as good as anything seeing as you're pretty much dead from that point on anyway.

EDIT: If you had the resources, 3x3 block deathmatch arena against a creeper spawner would be fun to watch too.

[EVILNess]

It's back up, I'm sorry it got turned off again without me noticing.

[Flarecobra]

I have a TON of pork, if anyone's interested.

[Melfice]

quick question here... i was considering to put up a really tall tower. But i'm not very good at vertical building... what techniques you guys recommend? i was thinking about a simple Cobblestone Scaffold with wooden stairs for access, but would that be the best way?

A dirt scaffold/stairs is easier, actually.
Far more temporary than a cobblestone scaffold.

[Ryong]

I keep logging in, thinking I'll have someone to chat with while working on my project and it's always empty. When do you guys play?

[Flarecobra]

Bunch of us are on right now...

[Pip Boy]

The server is lagging like a crazy person. Is there any chance that sometime we could do a map reset to a size-controlled map to prevent it from overgrowing?

[EVILNess]

The server is lagging like a crazy person. Is there any chance that sometime we could do a map reset to a size-controlled map to prevent it from overgrowing?

Has he added sized maps? I don't think he has.

[Flarecobra]

I don't see anything about it on the wiki...

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Attention all Enterprising Spleunkers, Archaeologists, and Fellow Afficionados of the Mineral Sciences:

The Royal Geological Society has recently discovered a massive network of caverns spanning a humongous stretch of territory deep below the deserts and forests of our great kingdom. Much of these caves remain unexplored, though rumors abound of vast riches contained within their depths; artisan springs, coal and iron veins, even rumors of lava and redstone in the deepest pits. Naturally, proper exploitation of these resources could provide a tremendous boom to the economic and scientific prosperity of the realm.

Consequentlly, the RGS has established a small base camp near the main entrance to the catacombs and invites fellow adventurers to take part in the exploration of these great caverns, availing themselves of the society's communal resources as necessary (naturally such business should be conducted in the most gentlemanly fashion; failure to do so could result in explusion from the society, preferably into the magma incinerator).

All interested parties should seek out the base camp as pictured below. Though proper maps are hard to come by, directions are not; follow the Great Rift beyond the VaultTech construction area and look for a small patch of trees bordering the desert.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/RGSbase.jpg

We look forward to making your aquantiance soon.
-I. Hitchens, Chairdragon of the Board, RGS

[Flarecobra]

Ness, any idea what's making it so laggy?

[Marc v4.0]

I didn't have any lag problems during my visit

[Pip Boy]

Has he added sized maps? I don't think he has.

The normal settings don't let you size control maps, but you can load in a premade map with special settings or mods or something that make it so that the map is fully generated from the start, and ends at a certain point.

If we chose to reset to help cut back lag, I'd suggest we find one such map, get a full map of it out for everyone to see ahead of time. We can all agree on what map we'll use, where each person will build, where we'll put community projects etc ahead of time. Then the map goes up for everyone to start playing and building, and then about 3 days after the building starts, we turn on monsters. By this time, a safe zone will have been created around the spawn to protect everyone from the creepers.


If you want to go a step further, there is something a friend of mine who does a lot of custom minecraft servers found worked very well. He had teams made ahead of time, each team having one trustworthy person with admin priviledges. The teams consisted of 3 people each, and were assigned for certain things like Transportation, Town building, and similar tasks. Ultimately, everyone was free to build wherever they pleased, so long as certain rules were followed, but public projects such as roads, tree farms, towns etc were all done by the members of the appropriate teams, or at least cleared by them first. It takes a bit of work to do things this way, but leads to a very organized, neat server. Roads are important in particular, because having warp points set at important locations makes different locations feel isolated and separate, whereas we usually played with no warps except the spawn a very organized road system to connect everything. Travel time was up a bit, but everything felt more connected and it was easier to know the geography because you would travel it frequently and had a full map to look at.

[Steel Shadow]

Right, done with mmo Christmas at last! Could ya put me on the whitelist now? User name is steelshadow.

[Bells]

If you want to go a step further, there is something a friend of mine who does a lot of custom minecraft servers found worked very well. He had teams made ahead of time, each team having one trustworthy person with admin priviledges. The teams consisted of 3 people each, and were assigned for certain things like Transportation, Town building, and similar tasks. Ultimately, everyone was free to build wherever they pleased, so long as certain rules were followed, but public projects such as roads, tree farms, towns etc were all done by the members of the appropriate teams, or at least cleared by them first. It takes a bit of work to do things this way, but leads to a very organized, neat server.

Hey man, if you want to work on a real NPF-Town, this sounds actually pretty fun, i still had my eyes on recreating Ivalice from Final Fantasy Tactics in Minecraft but that is just WAY too huge...

But making a community effort to build an actual town we all work and agree on would be quite nice. The best thing is that we really just need paint to Draw some rudimentary plants and agree on location of stuff

[Pip Boy]

But making a community effort to build an actual town we all work and agree on would be quite nice. The best thing is that we really just need paint to Draw some rudimentary plants and agree on location of stuff

This is precisely why having a pre-generated map is helpful. Before we even start the game, we could have a geographic map that shows named continents, bodies of water, and other landmarks, then another map with our planned building projects overlaid onto this map. As for towns, I think the best thing to do would be to have a group of two or three people build town walls and boundaries designating our build area, then build one or two buildings to set the theme, then leave empty lots that anyone who wants to can claim for their own buildings there.

On a related note, does anyone know how difficult/costly it is to host a small dedicated ventrilo server? Having Vent or Teamspeak available as a communicative medium would be great.

[Marc v4.0]

I don't think a map reset will solve any lag problems, because it can't be the size of the map if it isn't lagging everyone. I still get not a bit of lag while tooling around.

[Flarecobra]

Whereas it took me 3 minutes to load the map earlior today, when yesterday I had no lag problems.

[Marc v4.0]

Whereas it took me 3 minutes to load the map earlior today, when yesterday I had no lag problems.

Then it clearly isn't the map size causing the problem

[Flarecobra]

And now it's gone.

[Marc v4.0]

It could have just been carrier issues through a certain route or set of routes

[Flarecobra]

And now it's down.

[Pip Boy]

Just did a bit of looking this up. Its actually not the size of the map that causes lag, but the rate at which player movement forces it to load new terrain*. Normally this will only be one big spike when they spawn and slow loading when they move around, but player warping can apparently cause massive lag. Perhaps the best way to improve ping will be to make the map more foot-travel friendly and cut down on warping by removing it or putting a cooldown on it?

*New terrain as in anything not currently within view distance of the player, doesn't matter if its already been generated serverside.

[EVILNess]

No, my ISP is just stupid. The internet just cut out for a minute.

[Flarecobra]

Perhaps a little canal system can be carved out? It'd help with foot traffic.

[Bells]

Well, if we work on a full planned city we can even have a fully working Railroad network with some creativity and thinking

[Red Fighter 1073]

Yeah, a railroad network/subway would be so amazing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NR6gQ0CXpk)

Though the only thing that makes me hesitant on both a canal system and railroad system is that minecarts are laggy as hell on SMP, which kinda made my attempt at a rollercoaster pretty bad. I also tried using a boat to cross the water to my mineshaft and the server lagged like crazy after each time I used one.

[Doc ock rokc]

Im Really good with carts. If you provide some carts track and a few bits of stone I could build you a Automatic cart system with little to no trouble.


I put a MAGIC donation box at spawn. If the mods would like to fill it with meterials I can get the job done the next time I am there

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Even if I am reluctant to lose my current stuff, the idea of a brand new NPFopolis map is intriguing. I like the idea of splitting players into teams based on building specialties if we do something like that; you can balance out a good engineer with someone who's good at detail work, and so on.

[Bells]

The idea of teams is not even that hard really... you have "parks and recreation" "waterworks" "Landmarks" "Housing" and "transportation" ... that's the basic of it and it already covers a TON of stuff.

Sure, minecraft itself is geared torwards Medieval settings and Questing with monsters, but there is nothing really stopping us to find some middle ground.

I would love to have a Zombie Zoo for instance.

EDIT:

Also, this Cobblestone generator is just Awesome and useful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q5heE5WOeY&feature=related

[Arhra]

We could always just build it in an undeveloped area?

Eight times the surface area of the Earth to work with, people!

Looking at the map, perhaps a bit north of Wigmund's estate, or south of the Great Rift?

[Doc ock rokc]

We could always just build it in an undeveloped area?

Eight times the surface area of the Earth to work with, people!

Looking at the map, perhaps a bit north of Wigmund's estate, or south of the Great Rift?

I'm actually to the north of Wigs domain.
You'll see my obscenely large tower.

[Pip Boy]

My only concern about continuing to use our current map is that without proper planning from the start, any minecraft map eventually kind of deteriorates in the sense that new projects are put so far out from the spawn, organization is poor, transit systems are hard to build because the people building them will hardly have any idea where to build...

However, I did show Ness a small list of map plans that we could implement to run with a premade map. A lot of them were kind of 'meh', but he did say he had some interest in Skyland (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=38214). What do you guys think? I'm about to test the map out myself by putting it offline, Im not quite sure whether the gaps between continents are spanable with bridges or whether players are expected to use warps. Warps aren't quite so great because the loading lags the server.

[Doc ock rokc]

whatever. I want to blow my tower away so a new area is fine with me. but it in turn will fall into the same rut eventually.

[Bells]

I like Skyland, although there is a terrible lack of snow areas... and how are the underground areas? Most of us love those... would be fun building a connected world in that map, if we can get organized enough.

Also, a decent chance to make that Unholly beast that is our Battleship of Ousterbaum


EDIT: Ok, just out of curiosity, you guys prefer Vanilla games or modded ones? Cause... i was looking at this

http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=124219&sid=cac42cfdbf861d667daef2d2f427b6d0

[Flarecobra]

Depends on how it's modded to be honest. This is the only multiplayer server I play on though, so I dunno how well my opinion holds water sadly.

[Marc v4.0]

The idea of zoning area for building just seems rather boring and a bit of a stifle

[Pip Boy]

Zoning would only be done for public projects like towns and roads. If you wanted to go build pyramids in the desert you'd still be free to do that. You'd just get roads that go to your pyramids afterward.

EDIT: The fun thing I've found so far about Skylands is that there is a large number of pre-generated structures with treasure and easter eggs stashed inside. Running around in an offline play of the map, I found a cottage on a forest island with slime balls, redstone, and diamond leggings inside.

EDIT AGAIN: Can't quite get it to work right offline though. It loads the spawn area with normal minecraft settings, then when I travel out from there it starts using skyland stuff, so it doesn't quite click right. I wonder if it'll work better if attempted via a server-client setup.

[Flarecobra]

If anyone wants Cobblestone, I have a TON of it. Just let me know you're grabbing some either via Steam message, on here, or ingame.

Also: Character skins. How do I apply it.

[Doc ock rokc]

Character skins. How do I apply it.

Go to Minecraft.com
Login (same as game)
profile
And you're at the skin editing station.

[Flarecobra]

Go to Minecraft.net
Login (same as game)
profile
And you're at the skin editing station.

Fix'd, and thanks.

[Doc ock rokc]

eh to-may-do to-ma-to

[Red Fighter 1073]

Pip, you aren't having any problems with lag in Skylands? I tried playing it and there was a pretty consistent amount of slight lag no matter what my settings were and I've heard it's because since the Halloween update, Notch has added space to the air or something like that so bottomless maps lag like crazy. Other than that, Skylands is pretty neat even though falling off the map ended up being an annoyingly common occurrence for me.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

I'll be honest, while Skyland looks pretty awesome, it seems like it'd be hard to build on. A lot of issues with people falling off, and the map itself is pretty hard to navigate (at least in that view). We may want to pick a more terrestrial map if we do this.

[Doc ock rokc]

why not just reset it to just a normal map!

[Bells]

The point was to actually get a smaller map (not much smaller) so that we could work together in a more organized way. I mean, it's not like we can actually fill a full map anyways... and as long as we're discussing a modded map, why not go all the way and pick a theme for it, you know?

At least that was what i was getting from this

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Fair enough. And to be fair, it is a pretty cool theme. Maybe I'll see if I can download it and mess around some. Might help allay some of my concerns.

[Pip Boy]

Pip, you aren't having any problems with lag in Skylands? I tried playing it and there was a pretty consistent amount of slight lag no matter what my settings were and I've heard it's because since the Halloween update, Notch has added space to the air or something like that so bottomless maps lag like crazy. Other than that, Skylands is pretty neat even though falling off the map ended up being an annoyingly common occurrence for me.

At first this wasn't a big problem, but as I played a little bit it quickly started to lag so much that its unplayable. It seems that Skyland may not be the best idea.


Here is one possibility though: If anyone can send me a map of about the right size and composition (one that is big enough that I can shrink it down a bit and have it still be big enough and contains various environment biomes) I can use an editing program I've been learning to use to make it very difficult to move beyond a certain point. While technically possible to span the gap, we could just state ahead of time that its against the rules, and I'll make it hard enough that nobody will do so by mistake.

EDIT: Even better, while Im at it, I can add a defensible starting area to the map as well as a few roads and tunnels to start us off with. Building projects that would take forever in-game go by very fast with MCEdit.

[Marc v4.0]

I dunno, that creative server that Bob ran for a while with Nik got filled up in like, 2 days. Then it got more and more crowded.

I seriously think all a smaller map is going to do is get congested and need resetting constantly.

[Pip Boy]

We're not talking about making it tiny. The idea is to start with a large map that will remain static throughout the session. The current map looks different every time you look at it because new chunks keep getting added in the sides. My idea is that if we take a map that is already very large and make it so that everyone can point to things easily, it'll make the new server look nice, it'll make it easier to build a logical and practical road system with guideposts, and it'll make warping everywhere less necessary. As we have discovered, it is not literally the size of a map that causes lag, but players moving around causing it to load in new chunks, especially when a ton have to be loaded at once due to warp use or when the server has the additional strain of generating terrain, not just sending something already created.

[akaSM]

I remember watching a video, where the guy has a Zelda-like minimap, can we get something like that?

[EVILNess]

Righto then...

First order of Business: New Map.
Yay or Nay. Please PM me your answer on that.

Second Order: Hey0 Server Mod Plugins.
Currently we use Cuboid and MagicCarpet, which really doesn't affect you guys as they are Mod plugins.

I have been looking at some that might seem fun for the regular players as well. This is what I have been looking at: TownyMod (http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=29), AdventureMode (http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=2536&page=7), MagicSpells (http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=708), Stats (http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=211) and Achievements (http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=222), ArrowTurret (http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=3540), MiniGames (http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=1090), Iconomy (http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=354), and NPCs (http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=3827).

So, I plan on testing these addons in the next week or so, but I will let you know at least a day i advance before I put it up so you can have time to test it out yourself. I would like some initial feedback though, go peruse the threads for the plugins and tell me what you think and discuss it.

Third Order: Picking a second Mod.

Any nominations?

[Shyria Dracnoir]

TownyMod sounds like it could be fun as long as we don't get into too much arguing about who gets to be in charge of what. Combine that with NPCs and it could be interesting.

[Bells]

as a general rule of mods, i'm personally against any mod that Makes this game more "complex", i'm all for it having something in the sense of an RPG, and maybe a tad more battles and the idea of confrontation is nice... but it shouldn't be the focus.

On the other hand, i'm 100% in favor of any mods that Populate the world and add content. More mobs, new mobs, new blocks... stuff like that.

Anything that forces players to work together rather than against each other is also Ok in my Book.

For instance... and this is just a silly idea from the top of my head here... i recall this Mod for Oblivion where there would be Zombies somewhere in the world, and they would little by little expand and migrate... before the player know it, the entire world would be dominated by Zombies.

So... Imagine a 120day server. Where we get our constructions ready, and then the clock starts, and Zombies are places somewhere in the map, and everyday, you double the amount of Zombie mobs, up to the very limit of the server and engine itself, thus forcing everyone to venture for materials while putting together a better stronghold constantly.

Silly, of course. But it's the idea of Minecraft being driven for a purpose, without making things more complex. Which i'm in favor of.

on the other hand, most people just want to play around with their giant Blockly legos, which is fine too!

[EVILNess]

I was thinking of taking out all the item spawning (Sorry Wiggy) and putting in the NPC and Iconomy mod.

Stats and Achievements are something I most likely will do as they seem really fun and non-intrusive. I got to looking and the minigames mod is not being updated no more :(

EDIT: Actually, I am going to activate a few of these and test them now.

EDIT: Decided not to mod at all, the reason being that Hey0 (The server wrapper I use to give extra commands such as /home) is stopping development. A new one called Bukkit is being made though, so I'll probably just wait to switch over to that.

[Pip Boy]

Is there such thing as a mod that assigns currency values to certain types of blocks, letting players buy and sell items from a "shop" via server commands?

[Red Fighter 1073]

I was looking at that Mod Community Pack that was posted earlier, I think by Flare? Anyway, just wanted to point out some specific mods that I thought were pretty cool.

Battle Tower (Huge dungeon with boss at the end) (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=98383)
Mo' Creatures (Foxes, Horses, Bears, Lions,etc) (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=86929)
Humans+ (Human mobs, some friendly/some not) (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=103072)
Builders (Human NPCs that I think sell you stuff. (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=111753)

[Marc v4.0]

On the other hand, i'm 100% in favor of any mods that Populate the world and add content. More mobs, new mobs, new blocks... stuff like that.


Pretty much every time the game is updated we are going to have to wait days to weeks for the mods to be updated as well before we can even play. Not a terribly good idea, adds a ton of needless headache and activity lulls

It won't just be a matter of taking them off, either. Anything that adds new items is going to causes crashes if you have said things in your inventory

[Arhra]

Hmm, I'm definitely for Iconomy and something like Runecraft (or the Hey0 compatible equivalents thereof) would be fun. Battle Towers looks like fun too.

I'm all for a new map if people think that's the best way to fit in a town. I assume we'd break it up into lots and assign them accordingly? Collaborate on a few community buildings too.

I think a street layout a bit more interesting than a grid would be nice though. Hmmm. Any budding town planners?

[Pip Boy]

Pretty much every time the game is updated we are going to have to wait days to weeks for the mods to be updated as well before we can even play. Not a terribly good idea, adds a ton of needless headache and activity lulls

It won't just be a matter of taking them off, either. Anything that adds new items is going to causes crashes if you have said things in your inventory

While that was a bigger issue before, I think updates are likely to be fewer and less often now that the game is in Alpha. Most of the bugs have already been worked out. The only things we have to look forward to for multiplayer now are the Nether and completely original new content.

[Marc v4.0]

It is still something we should avoid until the game itself is in full release, or at least has a system in place to support Mods.

[Ryong]

I don't mind if we get a new map or any mods...

As long as we don't have offensive mobs everywhere. Lag makes it impossible to fight a zombie, but creepers? I don't even see them.

[Flarecobra]

Um, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

http://sadpanda.us/images/336905-EBOZ7SM.png

[Shyria Dracnoir]

GOTT EIN HIMMEL THEY'RE MOBILIZING!

Or it's a graphical error that occurs when the game loads up new chunks. I've seen it happen before.

[Flarecobra]

I know, I just thought it was funny.

[Melfice]

GOTT EIN HIMMEL THEY'RE MOBILIZING!

Or it's a graphical error that occurs when the game loads up new chunks. I've seen it happen before.

Gott im himmel. ;) But I share the emotion.

Is it permanent. by the way? I haven't played Minecraft in a good while, let alone on NessCraft.
If it's permanent, I'd advocate starting with a completely new map. (if my opinion counts for anything, considering my MC hiatus might last a while longer yet.)

Townymod sounds awesome too!

[Doc ock rokc]

Its not permanent. its just minor. and its personal. Occasionally rendering takes a certain aspect of something and repeats it to give depth beyond rendering. This works when it grabs a hill..but fails miserably when it grabs Santa Creeper

[Shyria Dracnoir]

..but fails awesomely when it grabs Santa Creeper

Fixed that for you.

[Pip Boy]

Someone did fire everywhere. AkaSM's island, and a bunch near the spawn. I tried cleaning up a bit, but there is just too much. Short of some kind of switch that puts out every fire on the server, it'll take 5 people a week to put that shit out.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[Flarecobra]

Me, Aka, and Doc are working on quelling the fires.

And it looks like part of the underwater tunnel got flooded too.

[Doc ock rokc]

Found and extinguished a few more small fires in the opposite direction...and a few on a small island.

[Bells]

i'm going in to help as much as i can. i'll try to contain any fire i come across.

If anyone is close to the desert, Desert sand can also put out fire, right? So stock up

[Ryong]

See, this is why you make everything underground.

[Pip Boy]

Honestly, I wouldn't bother any great deal of effort trying to fix things. Ness is probably going to reset soon and it won't matter.

Speaking of which, can you give us the results on that poll thus far, Ness?

EDIT: connection errors, can't get on right now. Anyone else?

[Flarecobra]

Not working here either.

[Bells]

Honestly, I wouldn't bother any great deal of effort trying to fix things. Ness is probably going to reset soon and it won't matter.


It seems like you are proposing that this incarnation of our world is approaching Armageddon, thus the only logical thing to do would be a pre-rapture no holds barred anarchy.... is that what you are implying good sir? ...if not, could'ya?

[Flarecobra]

Especally since I came on not too long after you made the announcement about the fires and you weren't on... Nah, I don't think you did it Pip.

[EVILNess]

The power supply on the server went out. No big deal, but I can't get to it to fix it tonight. Hopefully, I can get it fixed tomorrow and if I can't I will give notice.

[Eltargrim]

So hay Minecraft whores, you've convinced me to take a look at this game. At the moment I'm only able to do single player, but will probably be buying it when I have monies again. Because, y'know, so fucking addictive.

Any advice for dealing with creepers? The fucks keep on blowing holes in my entrances for my mountain stronghold, and it's annoying.

[Melfice]

So hay Minecraft whores, you've convinced me to take a look at this game. At the moment I'm only able to do single player, but will probably be buying it when I have monies again. Because, y'know, so fucking addictive.

Any advice for dealing with creepers? The fucks keep on blowing holes in my entrances for my mountain stronghold, and it's annoying.

Hide. Hide in your mountain. Forever.

Alternatively, you'll want to use a bow and arrow or you'll learn to sword it to death. Remember to keep the sound on, and you'll be able to hear the Creeper hissing, giving you a moment to make a dash for it.


Also, how the hell are you playing with Creepers, but not being able to go online? Pirated copy?

[Eltargrim]

Shenanigans. That's all I'll say.

I keep on making new entrances to my mountain. Side effect of tunnelling, I suppose. My main workplace and entrance seem to be on the top level; more of a hill than a mountain, I guess. After I clear it out, maybe a greenhouse? Mining down is progressing well; I've found me a chasm! Time to explore, now that I have armour, some iron tools, and cooked pork chops!

And yes, bows. Bows are nice. Took me long enough to realize it, though.

[Darth SS]

Okay Minecraft whores, you've 99% convinced me to buy this game.

Should I do it?

Is the NPF server still going?

[Bells]

Actually we are zeroing on a brand new reboot of the server, so if you join now, you will start fresh with everyone.

Also if you act NOW you get a set of stake knifes!

[Darth SS]

So download Minecraft Beta and off we go, right?

Potentially stupid question: The fact that I'm on a mac will have 0 effect on my ability to play on the same servers as you guys, right?

[Pip Boy]

All mods and stuff are managed serverside, so if you can run the game, you should be able to connect to anyone.

[Flarecobra]

May want to edit that first post to say the server is down...

[EVILNess]

My phone is dying, but i wanted to put that we had a bit (Lot) of ice. Phones and power are down. Server is all fixed, but no power = no internet.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Man should I get this game? Is it possible to convince the monsters that there tyrannous urges are simply the result of their alienation from their own productive selfs and thus to join me in a harmonious sky-city where we live in peace?

[Pip Boy]

Man should I get this game? Is it possible to convince the monsters that there tyrannous urges are simply the result of their alienation from their own productive selfs and thus to join me in a harmonious sky-city where we live in peace?

Dude, if the map goes back up we are totally building a new sky city.

ALL GLORY TO http://s3.amazonaws.com/giles/commie_111609/communist_party_t-shirt.gif

EDIT: Ness, for really elaborate difficult building projects that would be impossible/impractical via the client, would you be open to the idea of me building things in MCedit and sending you the file to copy/past via MCEdit (and maybe it will work with Cuboid)? Now that item duplication is impossible, you can no longer build a sky city without defacing an entire mountain somewhere else.

Alternatively, would you be open to the idea of donating a fuckton of dirt and stuff for the in-game construction of said sky-city via your MAGICAL POWERS?

[Flarecobra]

I tend to end up with a lot of dirt while mining.... could always snag some to give you.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Dude, when server goes back up we are totally building a new sky city.

ALL GLORY TO http://s3.amazonaws.com/giles/commie_111609/communist_party_t-shirt.gif

EDIT: Ness, for really elaborate difficult building projects that would be impossible/impractical via the client, would you be open to the idea of me building chunks in MCedit and sending you the file to just copy/paste? Now that item duplication is impossible, you can no longer build a sky city without defacing a mountain somewhere.

Alternatively, would you be open to the idea of donating a fuckton of dirt and stuff for the in-game construction of said sky-city via your MAGICAL POWERS?

I don't know if I want you fuckers wrecking my utopia. You're all murderers

[Melfice]

Man, you can't spell "Utopia" without... the "u" in murderers...?

Something like that, anyway.

[Pip Boy]

And you can't spell communism without something that sounds a lot like munition.

[Marc v4.0]

Communition

[Doc ock rokc]

Now that item duplication is impossible, you can no longer build a sky city without defacing an entire mountain somewhere else.

Alternatively, would you be open to the idea of donating a fuckton of dirt and stuff for the in-game construction of said sky-city via your MAGICAL POWERS?

We could always do what the guys at the nerdy show server do. In which the adminis fill up Some crates so that people can go and build with whatever materials they need

[Pip Boy]

I wonder if there is a mod that makes a magical chest that has infinity of certain materials. Stacks taken from the chest are immediately and automatically replaced kind of thing. Things like Iron, Diamond or TNT would get out of hand, but simple things like dirt, wood, sand, clay, glass, etc would be very handy.

[Bells]

Honestly? I would prefer to see somthing like that as a Treasure in a dungeon, just to get more of a "RP" feeling to the sandbox experience

[Doc ock rokc]

i figured out how to Make water flow upwards.
7592

when you want water to go up. Put a Stone Slab (the half block) then put a sign where the water is coming from then put water over the stone slab.

[Marc v4.0]

CAKE (http://notch.tumblr.com/)

[EVILNess]

Server is up with a new map since that is what most of you seemingly wanted

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Just wandering around the spawn, looks like we're plonked right between some snow biomes. Decent amount of minerals on the surface or in the caverns, as long as you look, plenty of hills we could level off for building material. We still want to do the NPFTown thing or what?

[Melfice]

I am totally calling dibs on designing and building the train station (if there's gonna be one, anyway.)!

[Doc ock rokc]

I am totally calling dibs on designing and building the train station (if there's gonna be one, anyway.)!

get in line behind me. I already have blueprints

[Melfice]

get in line behind me. I already have blueprints

You can do any (all) other station.
NPFCity Central station is mine. >:(

[Red Fighter 1073]

Does anyone know if snowballs do damage? Because if so, I'm so up for making an arena for PvP Snowball Fights.

[akaSM]

Hey guys, take a look at this:

http://i.imgur.com/wKRoj.png

[Flarecobra]

That kinda looks like something from SimCity 2000...

[Arcanum]

Hey Ness can you toss me on the Whitelist? I've been getting some minecraft cravings lately.

edit-- totally forgot; my minecraft username is ArcanumDarkfire

[Ryong]

I built a theater! Theatre! Whatever!

[Doc ock rokc]

built a orchard. that has gone overboard...and a castle with water elevators
And i am building up the supplys to the train station...unless evil wants to be kind and donate parts

[Red Fighter 1073]

Yeah I saw the finished product Ryong. Looks really nice! I like the creative design of the chairs haha and the design of the exterior. Post up some pics yo!

Here's some pics of my building. I might turn it into a library or something later on:

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9688/minecraft1a.png

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4867/minecraft2ez.png

[Flarecobra]

Now you need some 8-bit characters for it Ryong. :P

Oh, and I struck Lava, if anyone's interested. It's a little North of where my underground home, which is identifiable via the flaming roof.

[Melfice]

That kinda looks like something from SimCity 2000...

That's actually from Pokémon, but I'm not sure which game.
Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald would be my guess.

[Flarecobra]

Yes, it Honnen or however you spell it. I'm just saying at that view...

[Ryong]

built a orchard. that has gone overboard...
No joke on that.

[Doc ock rokc]

trees are so thick in a area that I am planting trees ON TREES

[akaSM]

That's actually from Pokémon, but I'm not sure which game.
Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald would be my guess.

Yup, that's the Hoenn region.

[Ryong]

And now, I can finally present the pictures of...The theater!

The entrance:
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7748/screenshot069r.png

Ticket counter:
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6523/screenshot070e.png

Everything else!
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/773/screenshot071.png

[The Argent Lord]

Can I get whitelisted? Username is Jalathas.

Also, guys, if playing on here is anything like playing singleplayer, expect boxes of free redstone to pop up. I run into SO much of it and don't use any.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/lavalake.png

I found this on the other side of the hill past the theater at the end of a big patch of exposed dirt and stone.

[Flarecobra]

What texture pack are you running there Ryong?

[Melfice]

He's running a customized Painterly pack (http://painterlypack.net/).

[Doc ock rokc]

OI! the spawn Sells set up makes it where we spawn on the roof of the building
I would recommend fixing that.

[EVILNess]

Ok, I set up a new spawn in the middle of a lake where you shouldn't die when you spawn.

Also, I hid a mountain of SECRET TREASURE somewhere on the map, Good luck finding it!

[Pip Boy]

You have to give us some kind of cryptic riddle or something. That's how it always works in the movies.

EDIT: Ness, some mods exist that allow you to manually connect two locations together via a warp. While allowing people to warp freely makes lag, if I wanted to make a sky island, could we connect a portal on the sky island to one on the ground directly below, thus making it so that the area you enter is already loaded and avoiding the lag problem? Its the only way aside from climbing waterfalls I can think of to make such a place accessible.

[EVILNess]

Its the only way aside from climbing waterfalls I can think of to make such a place accessible.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQDdqJT69FvYOr3bR8_f6N5JD_wIcBaB ugkViGPfHpOlGYvzyUSKw

[Loyal]

Ladders require an attached solid block (dirt, cobblestone, etc), which would defeat the point of it being a sky island.

[Doc ock rokc]

I got Two solutions for you Pip

My Water elevators

Or Boat elevator.

[Pip Boy]

Alternatively, I could simply build my entire sky island underground.


Im not crazy.

[EVILNess]

IT'S ADVENTURE TIME!

Here is your first clue to the SECRET TREASURE!

Alas, poor Herobrine I knew him well...

You are going to need to seriously think about these, and you might need to work together to compare server knowledge. Good luck!

Using the power of FRIENDSHIP, Pip and Doc found the treasure. I reset the puzzles so you can get in on it if you want. We all had lots of fun (Except Flare, who expressed displeasure at not being able to solve the problem with fire) and even if they got first pickings there is still some groovy stuff in the boxes!

[Pip Boy]

To clarify, when EVILNess says "Friendship" he means that we temporarily teamed up until I murdered Doc because he made science angry.

[Flarecobra]

(Except Flare, who expressed displeasure at not being able to solve the problem with fire) and even if they got first pickings there is still some groovy stuff in the boxes!

Or I could've been busy building a ton of lampposts.

[Doc ock rokc]

actually I remeber it I found it first and accidentally gave away it's location
then you took most of the diamond and killed me when I showed you my Up hill water way!

[Ryong]

I tried to connect and I got "Failed to connect to the server Connection Refused: connect".

So I guess the server's down?

[Red Fighter 1073]

So yeah Beta just got updated (http://notch.tumblr.com/) so I'm guessing the server is down because it hasn't done so as well. But, the update looks pretty cool. I was expecting new updates to just be bug fixes, but it looks like he's still adding a few new things to the game.

Also, my major motivation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCV20IReJGg) in making these crazy-looking buildings.

[Flarecobra]

I wonder if the "Water Dwelling Mob" is the shark he was plotting. Or the squid.

EDIT: It was a squid. Calamari anyone? (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Squid)

[Ryong]

Ok, that explains a lot.

*reads update*

...Squids? Huh.

Edit: Note blocks make me think of the Mario Paint Composer thing.

[Red Fighter 1073]

*Ahem* OH MY GOD!

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7029/minecraft3.png

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7194/minecraft4w.png

[EVILNess]

Hey0 is borked again. I am setting up a temp server and all that fro you to play on.

[Melfice]

Yeah... texture packs are borked too.
At least, Painterly is, in some cases.

EDIT: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Dispenser

Ooh... great way of building traps, wouldn't agree? Sure. The cost of replacing arrows would be fairly great. But it'd be pretty sweet. =3

[Marc v4.0]

So. Much. Awesome.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Lapis_Lazuli_%28Block%29

Pweety....

[Pip Boy]

Yeah... texture packs are borked too.
At least, Painterly is, in some cases.

EDIT: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Dispenser

Ooh... great way of building traps, wouldn't agree? Sure. The cost of replacing arrows would be fairly great. But it'd be pretty sweet. =3

It only activates when powered by a redstone block, so if you put a pressure plate or something, it'll only fire once every time someone walks by.

[Melfice]

It only activates when powered by a redstone block, so if you put a pressure plate or something, it'll only fire once every time someone walks by.

Corridor of death.
It really relies on if the person is carrying health restoratives, but fill a corridor with these things and pressure plates... Well.

[EVILNess]

I am making the statement that in ONE WEEK on Jan 20th, I will be turning on monsters.

So you might want to build a safety wall around the Hamlet town and put out lots of torches to get ready.

This is a test run to see if they run any smoother, so its not like I will force you to play with monsters if the creepers are all invisible again.

[Pip Boy]

I am making the statement that in ONE WEEK on Jan 20th, I will be turning on monsters.

So you might want to build a safety wall around the Hamlet town and put out lots of torches to get ready.

This is a test run to see if they run any smoother, so its not like I will force you to play with monsters if the creepers are all invisible again.

If we're going to do that, why don't you go ahead and put up a temporary server with a bunch of weapons and monsters on, we play around on that for a few minutes to see how it works, and then switch back to our real map, with monsters on if they work?

EDIT: LAAAAAGGG

[Marc v4.0]

Spiders climb walls.

Plan the city accordingly

[Flarecobra]

Lag is pretty bad right now.

[EVILNess]

That was me using the internet for something that had to be done. I didn't think to warn you guys sorry.

[Ryong]

Spiders climb walls.

Plan the city accordingly

...

What was that about a flying island?

[akaSM]

The server's temporarily down because it seems there's a thunderstorm at Ness' house, and PCs usually don't like lightning, so yeah.

He...he had to pull the plug[/drama]

[Doc ock rokc]

spiders cant crawl on walls
however they can crawl up ladders like all the other mobs

[Marc v4.0]

Spiders have totally been updated to climb up some blocks

[Flarecobra]

Wood used in a furnice now makes "Charcoal", which acts just like coal.

[Pip Boy]

Shyria made a cake.

It is delicious and moist.

[akaSM]

I didn't see the cake, I just heard about it...it must be a lie

[Flarecobra]

It's not, as I've seen it too.

It's healing.

[Pip Boy]

As for the spider problem with building a wall, I bet if we put a lip on the outer edge of the wall, they'd be unable to get over it.

[EVILNess]

Its all good again.

[Pip Boy]

Then why can't I connect? :(

[Melfice]

Then why can't I connect? :(

It's intentional. ;)

[Doc ock rokc]

I am thinking of Building a Monster ...Monster trap. that anyone can use...However I don't know to build it under ground so we always have monsters or above ground so we have a rest period every day. Then there is a matter of if a Mod wants to help me or not. if Ness can do a Clear out near the trap then we will be able to boost the ammount of monsters under ground. I would also require cacti in order to farm from spiders (if not I can use Lava to kill them and lose all that string:()

also For you Wall Builders I made a INFINITE COBBLESTONE GENERATOR by the Adventure club.

[Pip Boy]

Attention players:

I have begun planting trees.

That is all.

[Doc ock rokc]

Attention players:

I have begun planting trees.

That is all.

hey pip. I found a cool skin for you
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/6/65/Vault_Boy-Front.pnghttp://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/b/bc/Vault_Boy.png

[Marc v4.0]

What in the hell has taken huge chunks of land out of the map, and left a massive pyramid shape deep underground?

[Melfice]

Just out of curiosity: I'm guessing I've not yet been white-listed?

My name's MelficeSilesius , so if you'd kindly?

[EVILNess]

There isnt a whitelist atm, the server is down cause I Am trying to find a way to get the server set up somewhere else so on a better computer so the lag wont be as noticeable.

[Melfice]

There isnt a whitelist atm, the server is down cause I Am trying to find a way to get the server set up somewhere else so on a better computer so the lag wont be as noticeable.

Oh.
Well...

I knew that!

I was just asking for when the server is back up again. *cough*

[Loyal]

As for the spider problem with building a wall, I bet if we put a lip on the outer edge of the wall, they'd be unable to get over it. Correct. They can climb walls, but not ceilings.

[Pip Boy]

Thanks for the skin Doc. As per this new change, I am currently abandoning my previous building projects (or at least postponing them) in order to begin construction on Vault 143.

Visitors welcome.

[Marc v4.0]

Vault 0 is assured to never be filled with deadly bees

[Pip Boy]

There isnt a whitelist atm, the server is down cause I Am trying to find a way to get the server set up somewhere else so on a better computer so the lag wont be as noticeable.

Something to consider before moving the map over. While I understand fuck all about running servers myself, my mysterious friend who runs servers said there is a way to keep your terrain generation seed when moving/updating the server so we don't get another Rift like on the last map.

[EVILNess]

Well, I have already moved the map several times regardless. Deal with the odd terrain features.

Anyway, I have a temporary server with a TEMPORARY MAP with TEMPORARY MONSTERS for you to fight to test lag. I will of course be pushing back any monster repopulation efforts for the NPF hamlet back a day or two since I decided to do this on what basically amounts to a whim.

Look here in about 10 minutes for the IP

LOG IN AN KILL ME SOME MONSTERS:76.202.129.205:25565

[Marc v4.0]

Cannot connect

[EVILNess]

Yeah, the router is being a female dog in heat.

[Marc v4.0]

Ms Puddles?

[Melfice]

Ms Puddles and Mr Bouvier is still at it, I'ma thinkin'.

Yessir. Better get that hose.

Ah well. Good thing too, I guess. I should be sleeping fairly soon.

[EVILNess]

Yeah, okay the regular map is back up.

[Doc ock rokc]

and the verdict is....?

[Melfice]

Hmm... I'd been looking at replacing the sand used in the construction of the library with sandstone.
But it looks absolutely shit without a texture pack.
And possibly even then, it'd look shit.

I placed the sand back, don't worry.

[The Argent Lord]

Hey, so I requested whitelist a while back, but I haven't been able to log on. I know there's been a lot of server crashing and stuff going on, so I figured I'd bring it up again in case it got missed. Username is Jalathas.

[Flarecobra]

Will whoever built that.... wooden thing at Scylla Point please take it down? I've been building up something there.

[Melfice]

Watch this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewFrgDPCgGA&feature=player_embedded)

You'll thank me.

[Flarecobra]

... Why am I reminded of "300"?

[Doc ock rokc]

The correct question is "Why wouldn't you be reminded of 300.

[Eltargrim]

The more correct question is how do you make that cannon thing?

[Melfice]

The more correct question is how do you make that cannon thing?

It's a new addition.
It's called the Dispenser (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Dispenser).

[Eltargrim]

Bitchin'.

I need a paycheque. Now.

[Doc ock rokc]

minecart station started...but I have stuff to do So it won't be completed for a while.