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Flarecobra
01-03-2011, 02:36 PM
Link (http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/29/30-rock-biggest-ethics-violator-on-tv/)

Ok, I admit I haven't seen too many of these shows, so I'm wanting to hear from you all and your takes on these. However, the one show I DO watch that is on that list, NCIS, I think I CAN comment on.

My thing, I question the validity of this, and I wonder if they watch more then one episode. Ducky and Gibbs, if you ask me, are the two biggest respecters of women in the series. Mcgee too, especally as of late. Early on he seemed more fearful and unsure about them, and Tony... well... he's gotten better.

Any thoughts on the other shows?

TDK
01-03-2011, 02:43 PM
Wow, its almost like characters being inappropriate causes humor somehow!


But seriously, I see no problem with this. Its not as though they're doing it to offend people, although the 'characters' (such as House) might be doing it to offend people in-character.

Political Correctness is stupid. People are too easily offended.

Loyal
01-03-2011, 02:43 PM
I'm thinking this is supposed to be satire.

Primarily because I refuse to believe someone could seriously believe that pointless political correctness on TV entertainment could be held synonymous with any definition of the word "ethics."

Aerozord
01-03-2011, 03:23 PM
skimmed the article, and, they are seriously wondering why in a TV drama there are morally questionable practices? Thats like saying action series is violent. Of course they aren't ethical, thats the bread and butter of the genre

Archbio
01-03-2011, 03:27 PM
The piece does seem to have been made in a silly spirit... if it hadn't, it might have been a discussion of the actual "sexual harassment humour" which exists on some shows. I mean, instances where the sexual harassment is the joke, as opposed to instances where the characters just incidentally do things that'd violate real life regulations in the process of being fictional characters. In which case House would be way up there.

Edit: I mean, as much as House is supposed to be a character that "seeks to offend everybody equally," it seemed to me as though the writers pretty much made this a special project.

Flarecobra
01-03-2011, 03:35 PM
Well, looking at the group that did the study... I don't think it's satire at all.

Archbio
01-03-2011, 03:42 PM
The tone of the actual research (http://www.globalcompliance.com/pdf/does-hollywood-need-a-primetime-hotline-summary-global-compliance-december-2010.pdf) isn't exactly grim, though.

I don't think it's served well by the piece that cites it.

Flarecobra
01-03-2011, 03:49 PM
Yeah, I think things are a bit overblown, huh?

Fifthfiend
01-03-2011, 04:36 PM
CNN blogger Mark Marino definitely did successfully type up a large number of words in succession, formed into sentences, featuring both correct spelling and grammar.

EDIT: Keep an eye out for my exciting new study:

Does Bugs Bunny need a primer on physics? Violations of natural law in children's animation

Brought to you by the Global Network for Scientific Compliance, and the good people at CNN.

EDIT: I mean I do think they have a point, or at least that slide 9 out of the 13 slides of their powerpoint has (http://www.globalcompliance.com/pdf/does-hollywood-need-a-primetime-hotline-summary-global-compliance-december-2010.pdf) a point, I just think that point was really poorly served by the presentation.

EDIT: I think they could actually also make a strong argument for the point they seem to be, but ultimately I think aren't making, which is that TV needs to tone down its ethical violations, if they were to focus on the more serious, nominally realistic shows like NCIS / CSI / House / Grey's Anatomy / White Collar and not on ridiculous live-action cartons like 30 Rock / The Office. The Cop/Lawyer/Doctor Drama genre I feel generally could stand to put more of an effort into having their characters adhere to the ethical norms of their milieu, and/or facing whatever existing professional consequences for violating those norms.

Professor Smarmiarty
01-03-2011, 05:04 PM
It's similar to how like racist jokes can lead to genuine racism through dehumanising the vicim and making it ok. this goes way too far but it is an important point that if htese values were internalised as ok then it could be a problem.

Seil
01-03-2011, 05:26 PM
You people are talking like there're reasons to watch House other than Hugh Laurie being snide and sarcastic to everyone.

Well, maybe in the later seasons, but the point still stands.

Marc v4.0
01-03-2011, 07:22 PM
You people are talking like there're reasons to watch House other than Hugh Laurie being snide and sarcastic to everyone.

Lisa Edelstein's hind-quarters.

Oh, shit, I just did an ethics thing didn't I?

Magus
01-05-2011, 06:40 PM
I'm glad I only watch shows like "Dexter" or "Fringe" where there are of course no ethics violations of any kind.

Archbio
01-05-2011, 06:46 PM
Whenever Walter Bishop mentions his erections it's in a purely scientific context.

walkertexasdruid
01-19-2011, 06:43 PM
Damages is a show about lawyers that are as unethical as they can possibly be, though not much sexual harassment. Just threatening witnesses, killing their pets, kidnaping children, hiring someone just to get close to her boyfriend's sister. Almost as wholesome as the Sopranoes.