Pokemon Umbral Theatre 18: I am Dracorion Almighty!

[Dracorion]

But before I crush you all under my heel, onto important matters:

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Figures all the New Year pictures would show up after I post the new year thread.

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FUCK YES THAT IS AN AWESOME EVOLUTION OF OMASTAR AND WE NEED TO HAVE IT.

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You know Adamantitar? It's like this but badder.

And now to deal with you jerkbags.

And I'm hoping that the equivalent of 9 130-power attacks is enough to kill a grunt. Y'know. Or else.

Actually, since Impact doesn't have a stat boost or a Helping Hand I think the bastard might just survive.

Also also, dibs on making the next thread.
Again, or else.

I think fucking not.

Drac, you're not a GM to decide how the rules are made. That is solely AB's domain as the one who runs the setting.

Your job as sub-GM (as far as I see it) is to keep the game running and to enforce the rules that AB already ruled on. I'm perfectly willing to listen to whatever interpretions you may have about the rules, but I take any such interpretions as if they came from me, Gem, Bard or Dante. As interpretions from a fellow player. Especially when the rules are not specific to your quest alone, but to the entire premise of the game in general, including after your character specific mission.

Well, see.

I did keep saying that AB could overrule me. In the meantime, I thought it'd be better to enforce a couple of rules that we could always go back on depending on what AB said, rather than let you assholes run rampant with like thirty fucking attacks in one turn.

My personal viewpoint with lovetechs is that each PC characters are capable of performings these actions on their own. Impact is very tactical, even without Rayleen. Renny is very dutiful about supporting and helping people, even without Lola. Pierce is a great combatant even without Chizuru. Having these love-partners who are also compatible with their respective strengths just enables them to do these techniques with more grace, skill and flair than normal.
Or as Renny would say it, these techniques may have been learned BECAUSE of their interaction with these specific characters. Lola TAUGHT Renny how to use items like these because of her skill as a medic. Rayleen TAUGHT Impact how to be even more of a leader than he was. The absence of these characters doesn't mean that the PCs suddenly is unable to do it, or that they haven't personally developed by their interactions with said specific character.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

God, I despair at you people. ONe doesn't manipulate me when I'm literally asking for it, the other decided to take my veiled threat and turn it into a reality, spelling it out in 300 words or more.

Veiled? I thought it was about as subtle as getting coldcocked upside the head. By an actual cock.

[Geminex]

Actually, since Impact doesn't have a stat boost or a Helping Hand I think the bastard might just survive.

Impact: CCC
Whitney: Sunny Day
Volbeat: Helping Hand Renny
Kurika: Devils dance on Sergeant B
Lola: Attack booster on Renny, Special attack booster on Impact
Impact: Flamethrower on Footsoldier C. Stats bonus, plus STAB, Super effective, weather, give him an effective multiplier of 9, on top of a 130 power attack
Renny: Pokebrid action, reduce Foot Soldier B defense by 1 stage.
Renny: Paradigm Shift, Psycho cut on Foot Soldier B: Stats are effectively triple, Plus Stab, plus super effective attack, plus helping hand on top of a 70 power attack
Togekiss: Heat Wave on Foot Soldier A and Engineer A
Mirror: Build 2 Fire evoliths. Both use eruption on Foot Soldier A and Engineer B.
Mirror: Ground Cluster on Health Fountain. If that's not vulnerable, hit Foot Soldier C. If C's dead, hit B.
Impact: Use Stamina boost, hit Medic with Flamethrower.

WOW WILL YOU LOOK AT ALL THOSE STATS BOOSTS.
WILL YOU JUST LOOK AT THEM.
SO BEAUTIFUL.

That enough?

Veiled? I thought it was about as subtle as getting coldcocked upside the head. By an actual cock.
No. Menarker was the actual cock. I was more of the cock-tease.

I did keep saying that AB could overrule me. In the meantime, I thought it'd be better to enforce a couple of rules that we could always go back on depending on what AB said, rather than let you assholes run rampant with like thirty fucking attacks in one turn.
This isn't about thirty fucking attacks. This is about the fact that letting plot shit influence gameplay shit ruins balance shit unfairly shit.
Shit.

If you're not gonna let us explain it away, we'll just rebalance, gameplay-wise and explain that away. More work for everyone.

I think fucking not.
OH NO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOPlKMa9BzE)
Though seriously. The only reason you make more of these than me is that you have more pokeporn on your PC than me.
I am proud of not making these threads.

[Dracorion]

Actually I get the pictures from the same site AB gets them.

It can get a bit difficult, actually, when we start burning through RP threads. Because then it gets hard to find SFW pictures that haven't already been used.

[Geminex]

Which site is this?
Purely for scientific reasons, of course.

[Menarker]

You should probably delete that post and send it via PM. It's very NSFW to the point that it might not be safe enough for this forum.

[Dracorion]

Well at least I knew well enough not to actually link it.

And Gem, you know what a Menarker post reminds me? You telling me that your attack totally should knock out the Footsoldier.

Because it's like what Menarker always does with his plans, saying that the character has this and this and this bonus and that it should hopefully kill the target. In a sickeningly nice manner.

Except you're, of course, the opposite.

But I'm pretty sure if it was AB GMing, you'd be asking nicely like Menarker.

Do you see where I'm going here, or would you like me to spell it out for you, assmunch?

[Geminex]

Look, if you want me to suck your dick, you can just say so.

But as it is,
a) if AB was GMing I wouldn't be outlining this at all. Or I'd let Menarker do all of it. I'm just clarifying those two attacks especially for you. Isn't that nice of me?
Of course, you can do with that information what you like. But this is also me, saying that it'd be more than just kinda bullshit for an attack of that strength not to kill.

b) And in that vein, I'm preeetty sure you're already on pretty damn thin ice, GM-wise. Making that ice even thinner by making our team unsuccessful out of spite would not be a wise thing to do.

Y'know what, I'll say please.
Please, Drac. Be... reasonable.
Please, Drac. Realize that being temporary DM won't make me respect you or grovel in any way whatsoever.
Please, Drac. Be aware that, while you have more control over the RP than me right now, that is extremely temporary. And when that's passed, whelp. Look at that balance of power shifting. And look at me out for revenge. And let's not even talk about the sequel.
Please, Drac. Do your job. Don't try to abuse a position you don't actually have.

And then make me a sandwich.

[Dracorion]

Naw.

[Geminex]

What, no sandwich?
>: [

[Dracorion]

Among other things.

[Geminex]

Look, I don't care about the other stuff.
But lemme just clarify one more time, you are not going make me a sandwich.
Is that what you're saying? Really?

[Astral Harmony]

Sorry, business with The World Ends With You has kept me away for a while. Who knew cramming my characters faces full of stat-increasing ramen, hamburgers, and other stuff would be so addictive?

Anyways, I'm catching up right now so I can only hope that I've addressed every issue in this post...

CC&C Issue: If I recall correctly, I kinda sorta told Geminex a long time ago that Rayleen would be leaving PATCA for good. And if I'm still recalling correctly, he decided to have CC&C compatible also with Irene, which I allowed.

Now, although it is ridiculous and probably makes no goddamned sense whatsoever, I think that if Impact does want to use CC&C inside the laboratory, regardless of current position and logical possibility of dropped communications because of interference, then it should be possible no matter where Impact is in relation to Irene.

However, Impact must pay the full price for CC&C despite the plot forcing Irene to not be in the party. Additionally, he can only use it once per turn.

Come to think of it, Geminex, how do you feel about shifting CC&C to Sakuya from the sequel onwards? Rayleen and Irene won't be around for reasons that I don't want to spoil plotwise at that time.

Sakuya seems the most appropriate out of all the characters joining your cause due to her extensive military experience. Although Eldys would also make a good close comrade.

Using Accessories: Using an accessory only has the Rage cost. You still have your full action after that.

Evolith Issue: Each formation, regardless of size, has two slots for Engineer constructs. If the squad leader wills it, both slots can be occupied by Evoliths.

However, no Engineer can construct more than once per turn, which of course includes Evoliths. If the slots are filled and the squad leader wants something else there instead, the Engineer can deconstruct one thing and replace it with another construct all in the same turn, BUT the Engineer will not be refunded the Rage cost for deconstructing something.

About Plot Versus Combat: As far as things go, I don't want the separation of great distances to affect one's ability to use a Love Tech or a Sync Tech any more than the fact that the PC has to pay the full price for it. We could just make something up about them being there in spirit or whatever, stupid as that sounds. Hey, it's Pokemon. Stupid, sugary crap like that is all over the franchise.

About Lola: The only reason I can see Lola not being a part of the team (sequel or otherwise) is if (or rather, when) Renny gets her pregnant. And even then Lola would probably be fighting until she actually discovers that she is pregnant.

*imagines something hilarious*

Renny: "Lola, use your SyncTech!"
Lola: "Ah...yeah, about that."
Renny: "Lola, what's wrong?"
Lola: "My water just broke. I think I'm going into labor!"
Renny: "You're pregnant?! And all this time I thought you were smuggling mashed potatoes!"

About Westfuckistan: I leave here in less than two weeks if God is merciful. How long it actually takes me to cross two goddamned oceans, restore my hi-speed Internet for porn and get some fucking quality time off remains to be seen. So...maybe add another week to that. I'm certain this battle will be still be hot when shit finally returns to normal.

[Geminex]

However, Impact must pay the full price for CC&C despite the plot forcing Irene to not be in the party. Additionally, he can only use it once per turn.

Come to think of it, Geminex, how do you feel about shifting CC&C to Sakuya from the sequel onwards? Rayleen and Irene won't be around for reasons that I don't want to spoil plotwise at that time.

That depends where I want to go with Impact's character relationships. Relationship techs' original purpose was to demonstrate emotional bonds between characters. I'll see how his relationship with Sakuya develops.

And I'm honestly gonna have to ask here: Why can't he use it twice? It really doesn't make much sense, gameplay-wise. In a larger-scale battle, using it once would give him 5 extra attacks. Just as, in a larger scale battle, using Hellfire (Pierce's technique) would let Pierce hit three targets.

In a smaller-scale battle, cost and effectiveness get reduced, to 2 extras for 30 rage.
Now, I'm perfectly open to the fact that the cost/effect relationship may be a bit skewed. Hell, I'm one of the people who go around saying that it is.

But it just seems weird to limit its usage to 1 per turn. If I have the rage, why not use it? It's not any stronger than it'd be in a full-scale battle.

And if you're saying that its effectiveness gets multiplied because those 5 attacks are spread over far fewer targets, then that applies to other techniques as well. Hellfire hitting 3 targets in a formation of 12 enemies is way weaker than it hitting 3 out of 6. You're not saying that hellfire's effectiveness and cost get halved, and it can only be used once per turn.

Because that would be stupid. But for some reason, you're doing it to CCC. I'm arbitrarliy getting nerfed because I have a technique that scales with battle size. Despite the fact that, while creating that technique, I specifically made sure it'd be as strong in small battles as it is in large battles.
So what gives?

As for the evoliths, eh. Fair enough. Not like we're gonna have many 100-rage engineers. But please, let's not apply that retroactively, kay? That is to say, let the plan just be.

[Dracorion]

Awesome. Thanks AB.

And now that we got a deadline on when AB comes back, I gotta get crackin' on abusing my power.

Geminex, lick my heels and fetch me my pimpstick! What's that bitch? No? I'll just emasculate Impact some more then.

And Jesus Christ man, you and your retroactively. It's just a stupid plan. Not like you made a bigassed RP post with awesome character development hinging solely on two Evoliths.

About C,C&C, it gives more than attacks. It gives actions. Like Kurika and Whitney can expend their Rage on Signature Techs.

[Geminex]

Y'wanna know where you can shove that pimpstick?

Edit:
Bluh. Bluh. Huge. Bitch.
Are you letting me do the evoliths or not? Cause I can change the plan, if absolutely necessary. I just won't like it.

Though come to think of it, why is it necessary to limit engineers to constructing once per turn anyway? I mean, I've got the rage. And honestly, evoliths aren't that great.

About C,C&C, it gives more than attacks. It gives actions. Like Kurika and Whitney can expend their Rage on Signature Techs.
Yeah. But whether I use it once in a big battle or twice in a small battle, the amount of actions are the same. There's no change in strength.

[Dracorion]

Oh. If that's what you want, you're going to have to do as I say, first.

You can do two Evoliths. As for C,C&C, small battles aren't quite the same as large battles.

If you're going to be able to make Whitney and Kurika act for 30 Rage, I might as well just make them part of the active formation.

[Geminex]

I'm going to say 'Okay', just to distract from the terrible feeling that you're currently living out your sex fantasies.

In fact, I'm gonna do more than that. I'm gonna say 'let's deal'. What do you want, what do I get.

Edit:
Wait, didn't see your edit. Lemme keep the two evoliths for this round and eh, fair enough. Despite the fact that your case is utterly unsubstantiated, I'll take nerf. In fact, I'll do the nerf CCC, buff Dark Ambition thing I've been wanting to do.

[Dracorion]

I want a pony, and Zekrom and a fifth character and all the bitches!

But seriously? I want nothing and you get shit. Just make your RP post.

You too Bard! A proper post, none of that placeholder bullshit.

[Geminex]

Okay, here we go:

Sigtech:
Dark ambition:
Cost: 90 rage
Effect: Does nothing this round. Over the next 3 rounds, Impact gains +1, then +2, then +3 to all stats. Use counts as free action. Neither the boosting effect nor the stats gains themselves can be dispelled by haze.

Relationship tech:
CC&C:
Partner: Irene at the moment. May switch later.
Cost: 20 per enforcer
Effect: Every available enforcer gets to act normally, gaining all the actions and effects they would if they were in the main formation. Counts as a free action, but can be used once per turn only.

Your thoughts, guys? I'm not going higher than 20, cause then it's no stronger than sweep. And I'll see about dark ambition. I just want to encourage its use, and I think that might do it. But I'm not sure, honestly.

AB, that okay?

[Dracorion]

For Dark Ambition I'd suggest going for something with a lower cost.

[Geminex]

Hmmm... point. And honestly, now that I think about it, our battles are 5-6 rounds as most. 3 rounds doesn't really cut it.

How does...
Dark ambition:
Cost: 60 rage
Effect: Does nothing this round. Over the next 2 rounds, Impact gains +2, then +3 to all stats. Use counts as a standard. Neither the boosting effect nor the stats gains themselves can be dispelled by haze.

strike you? Quicker, bit weaker. And standard action.

[Dracorion]

Bit iffy. I want to see what Menarker says.

[Menarker]

Actually, Haze isn't supposed to work against the boosting effect. Yes, it'll set your stats to neutral, but it can't stop you from gaining them. Haze is almost non-existant so far, as opposed to other foes potentially using stat downs which overwrite it (and is exceedingly more common). So in that regards, it's gaining an immunity to something that is not very common (yet. B/W will make it more common) while still be open to something that is.

Watch out for dark type pokemons with the move "Punishment". They will make you squeal like a bitch.

I'd personally suggest something that has a bit more of a lesser total payout, but cheaper and faster. OR RATHER, something you can inflate.

Like this proposal of mine.

Every round until you get knocked out or switched out, you get the following every round starting the round you paid for it. (Each set of +2 stat bonus that you get on the same round have to be on a different stat ) Use as an instant action.

45 = 2 sets of +2 stat boost
60 = 3 sets of +2 stat boost (Roughly equal to a little more than +1 to all stats)
75 = 4 sets of +2 stat boost
90 = 5 sets of +2 stat boost (+2 to all stats)

In addition, immunity to stat "reset" but not stats reduction. (Although you can use your stat gains to neutralize your stat loss)


This way, you get immediate payoff and the stats you prioritize to boost most will be stronger faster. You need more power to sweep your foes? Focus on speed and attack. You're facing a huge army with massive attacks? Boost up your defenses and stall for the turns you get your attack bonuses. Your options are pretty open. And if you just want to max out one or two stats, then the lower costs are a good deal on rage if you can last 3 turns to do so.
But unless you paid the 90 rage, you will take longer to max all your stats so you aren't boosted to "god almighty" in a "mere" 3 turns.


What do you think?

[Geminex]

That's... not that bad, actually. Nice and modular, certainly. And useful both short and long term.

Drac, what do you think?

And before you mention it, I'm writing the post.

[Menarker]

Rest assured, I'll also write my post afterwards too.

[Dracorion]

BLARGLE TOO MANY NUMBERS I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HERP DERP

Particularly,

Every round until you get knocked out or switched out, you get the following every round starting the round you paid for it. (Each set of +2 stat bonus that you get on the same round have to be on a different stat ) Use as an instant action.

What the hell does it say here?

I am in no condition right now to try and wrap my head around this shit. Packing is serious business!

[Geminex]

In that case, remind me to make fun of your english more.

You're grasping at straws Gem.

Or am I?

What he's saying is: I pay a base 45 rage to active the technique, and give my self +2 to 2 stats per turn. While the technique's active, I can pay a further 15 rage whenever I want to get +2 to another stat per turn, up to 90 rage for +2 to 5 stats.
I start getting the bonus the turn I pay the price, so if I pay 45 rage, I immediately get +2 to 2, if I pay another 15 next round, I get +2 to another one.

Capisce?

[Menarker]

Actually, my original intent was that you pay it all in one shot on the first turn. The sets of 15 rage was just my guiding point to make it easier to grasp where the numbers were coming from.

Not that I mind your idea.

Trying to avoid cumbersome paper-work involved. :3

The only variables are:
1: How much rage you pay the turn you activated it. (This determines how much bonus you get that turn and every turn thereafter)
2: Where you put your stats.

Thus to clarify:
If you paid 60 rage, then you choose 3 stats. Those three stats get +2 that round and every round. (3 sets of +2 bonuses)

If you paid 90 rage, all your stats get +2 that round and every round.

[Dracorion]

Yeah.

Sure, whatever. Go nuts.

But make sure to put it like that in your profile.

And put your equipment in your profile. Hell, put everything worthy of note in your profile so we don't have to keep digging through threads every time we wanna know what you've got on you.

Bard! Be more alive!

EDIT: Actually, Menarker raises a fair point. I would propose that if you use Dark Ambition, okay, you pay whatever you 45 Rage or 60 or whatever you like. But if you skip a turn, Dark Ambition ends and if you want another stat boost you gotta pay 45 all over again.

[Menarker]

I already put Gem's equipment on the piratepad.

[Geminex]

Bard! Be more alive!
Well, about that...

And the technique, I'll take care of the paperwork, Menarker. I'll even put it in the plans so our nice GMs don't have to worry their poor heads. So I'd like to try it with the 'Pay as you go' thing. If it turns out too strong, I'll change it from a free to a standard action, that should take care of that.

EDIT: Actually, Menarker raises a fair point. I would propose that if you use Dark Ambition, okay, you pay whatever you 45 Rage or 60 or whatever you like. But if you skip a turn, Dark Ambition ends and if you want another stat boost you gotta pay 45 all over again. v
How do I 'skip a turn'?

[Dracorion]

By the way Menarker, there are six stats.

Six, remember?

Would you like me to name them for you?

How do I 'skip a turn'?

By not spending Rage to get a stat boost after you've activated Dark Ambition.

Basically this is to avoid something like you spending 75 Rage on stat boosts and then waiting a turn or two to gather Rage and spend another 15 for the last +2.

[Geminex]

HP boosts don't working during combat, though. HP is determined pre-battle. Or it has been, so far. You wanna change that?

Edit: Why do I pay rage to get stats boosts?
Dark ambition gives me a fixed amount of stats boosts per turn. +2 to x stats. Initially, x=2. I can make dark ambition boost more stats by paying further rage.

But I'm not paying for the boosts directly. I'm paying to increase the amount of boosts I get per turn.

[Dracorion]

Yeah, forget I said anything.

EDIT: GGHHKKKKTTTTTT-

Someone try to explain my point to Geminex. I'mma go pack some more and grab a bite.

[Geminex]

Oh, I see.
Well, that's stupid.

What if I pay the full 90 rage to begin with? Do I still have to keep spending 15 rage per turn?

And besides, after 2 turns of +2 to 4 stats, paying another 15 wouldn't really be worth it.

[Menarker]

:raise: ... I don't even know what point Drac thought I raised.

Gem, I don't mind the entire pay as you go concept. It's relatively simple enough anyhow.

And the "skip a turn if you don't pay rage" sounds like an unfair rage rage grab.

[Geminex]

The PAYG technique is pretty strong, so I wouldn't call it unfair.
But I don't wanna pay upkeep...
Hummm...

[Menarker]

Well, that's one of the reasons why I didn't think of the Pay as you Go method.
Reaching 90 rage is already a difficult task, because you need rage rockets, attacking and being hit, or something like Second Wind, which is an element of risk AND taking up valuable time. So if you managed to hit 90 rage and opted to spend it all on that ability, then you deserve a pretty damn good reward.
But with PAYG, you start getting buffs and as you're getting hit and as you attack, you're gaining rage to get even more.

BUT
I don't agree with the upkeep thing at all. It needlessly drains rage and thus demotivates you from using a technique that were buffing in the first place so you would use it more often! Kinda self-defeating.


What I would suggest is that we use the pay as you go system with no upkeep. HOWEVER, paying as you go would be a standard action instead of instant.

So, the first payment is instant speed, so you gain the bonuses instantly and thus you're encouraged to spend as much as you are able for as many bonuses as soon as possible.
If you REALLY need more buffs afterwards then, you CAN get them, but it'll take a little investment of time along with the rage you probably got from attacking and being hit (which got boosted from your buffs in the first place).

[Geminex]

Point. Forget PAYG, I'll go with the orignal.

[Dracorion]

God.

You guys.

[Geminex]

<3<
<3<
<3<

When's your flight going?

[Menarker]

Ah, ok.

It was hard fiddling around with the math and trying to make it balanced with the game as well as balanced with previous example of Dark Ambition.

You think there should be an option to pay 30 rage for one set of +2 bonus every round? I kinda realized I didn't make that option available. (Although it's kinda of a lame choice unless you were REALLY pressed for rage.)

[Dracorion]

I'm not even going to bother trying to keep up with timestamps here.
I'm going to be flying backwards through fucking time here.

Suffice to say I'm getting up early tomorrow.

[Geminex]

Have fun with that. I'll try not to keep you up too late.
That is to say, I'll be patronizing and tell you that it's bedtime and you need your sleep if you want to grow big and strong like me.

And nah, no 30 rage option. That'd be stupid.

[Menarker]

Dark Ambition:
Cost: Minimal cost of 45, increasing in increments of 15 rage. See below.
Effect: Depending on how much rage was spent on activating this move, Impact gains "X" number of +2 stat bonuses instantly and at the start of each round thereafter which he can assign to whichever stat he wants, except that these +2 stat bonuses cannot be put on the same stat twice per turn.

X -- Cost

2 = 45 rage
3 = 60 rage
4 = 75 rage
5 = 90 rage (+2 to all stats)

While under this effect, Impact is immune to the negative effects of "stat reset" moves like Haze and Clear Smog. This move is done as an instant action.


Does this sum up the move nicely for you guys?

[Dracorion]

I will never be satisfied with the quality of your RP posts, Gem!

Now you, Menarker. And do me a favor and attach the battle plan to the end of your post. I'd tell Gem to do it, but he's a stupid donkeyface.

And Bard! Baaaaaaaaard!

[Geminex]

I didn't put it in cause I thought it'd look smug. And we all know I don't want that!
:dance:

Also, Menarker, MAKE YOUR POST YOU LAZY FAT SLOB I MEAN JESUS I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE MAKE OTHER PEOPLE WAIT CAUSE THEY REFUSE TO TAKE THE TIME TO POST THOSE GUYS ARE SUCH ASSHOLES ANYWAY NOW MAKE YOU POST.

[Menarker]

Hold your hypocritical ass there one moment! I'm on school campus now! I only just recently found a good location for my laptop. I'll make my post when I'm good and ready.

With battle plan data included.

[Dracorion]

Well at least I know I can count on someone.

[Geminex]

Look, Dracorion.
I know, I know, I might not always be there. There's work, there's other RPs. I have a life I need to take care of. Other commitments.

And I know I've been missing in the past. And believe me, I hate that as much as you do. I want to be there to insult you, and belittle you. I want to remind you how much I hate you, each and every day. But sometimes... sometimes I just can't!

But I promise you. When you really need me, when you really need to be put down, to be utterly outsmarted, when you need someone utterly obstinate to argue with, when you need someone who really, honestly hates you and loves hating you-
When you really, really need a nemesis.
I'll be there.
And I will make you wish I wasn't.

[Menarker]

Heh.

I was tempted to say something like "What a horrible mess that Pierce made for us! If we all get out of this alive, I'm gonna kill Pierce anyways!"

But that would be somewhat out of character for Renny. =P

Writing the post.

[Dracorion]

Look, Dracorion.
I know, I know, I might not always be there. There's work, there's other RPs. I have a life I need to take care of. Other commitments.

And I know I've been missing in the past. And believe me, I hate that as much as you do. I want to be there to insult you, and belittle you. I want to remind you how much I hate you, each and every day. But sometimes... sometimes I just can't!

But I promise you. When you really need me, when you really need to be put down, to be utterly outsmarted, when you need someone utterly obstinate to argue with, when you need someone who really, honestly hates you and loves hating you-
When you really, really need a nemesis.
I'll be there.
And I will make you wish I wasn't.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU.

I'm going to stay with my mother for a few days!

[Geminex]

Oh god not your mother.
Leave her out of this!

[Menarker]

Post made. Sorry if there is any mistake or if it seems somewhat rushed. Class starting now and I was in a hurry to finish it.

[Geminex]

Good enough.
Though it's stupid to say we weren't on high alert before. We had found the big bad, tracked him to his hideout and we were preparing an assault. You do not have major surgery while your squad is preparing for an assault. You just don't.

I mean, sure, it makes perfect sense for you to get the upgrade, gameplay-wise. But Renny deserves to get chewed out.

Also, Drac, aren't we going in independent of Pierce? Or are we going in specifically to save him?

[Menarker]

AB said that Pokebrid surgery is simple and not very time consuming with practically no after-procedual complication.

For improving combat usefulness and survival, it makes perfect sense.

[Dracorion]

I do believe it's a secondary objective, finding Pierce.

[Geminex]

AB said that Pokebrid surgery is simple and not very time consuming with practically no after-procedual complication.
Which is utterly retarded. It literally modifies DNA. That is not a simple procedure. It replaces every cell in your goddamn body and artificially gives you acces to supernatural elemental powers.

For improving combat usefulness and survival, it makes perfect sense.
Well, no, because doing so made him miss part of the mission. And, plot-wise, I wouldn't say he's that much more effective.

[Menarker]

Well, no, because doing so made him miss part of the mission. And, plot-wise, I wouldn't say he's that much more effective.

Which only happened because Pierce was being a selfish putz and put himself and his sister above PATCA procedures which existed to ensure that the agents would not be rushing into things without ample preparations. (In character) Irene said that the mission wasn't slated to happen for another week or so!

If he only followed standard procedures or if it didn't happen accidently at the same time as the surgery, then Renny's absence would not have happened.

[Geminex]

No, Drac just said. We're not going in specifically because of Pierce. We're going in normally, and noticing that Pierce is already there.

...

Right?

[Dracorion]

Yep.

[Menarker]

Wrong.

It's because of Pierce's entering the mansion that Faynoc learned that PACTA knows where his hideout was. So the mission was jumpstarted ahead of schedule because if they didn't go THEN AND NOW, then Faynoc would have evacauated all his soldiers and data and moved for another location and the entirity of the last mission (tailing Faynoc and having the Kimonos trail him in secret) would have been for naught.

Yes, the mission was not specifically to save Pierce, BUT it is because of Pierce's screw-up that everything that was planned to be done later and with Pierce's help had to be dealt with now instead of the intended time which was weeks later and without his help.

It was because of Pierce that everything was jumpstarted way ahead of time. Thus, it is his fault for Renny's lateness. Renny was operating under the mindset that the rest of PATCA had, that there was at least a week of time available and thus time for the surgery and to get used to his body.

[Geminex]

No, Drac just said. We're not going in specifically because of Pierce. We're going in normally, and noticing that Pierce is already there.

...

Right?

Yep.

WELP

Edit:
Priority-wise:
Putting down Renny > Being on Drac's side for once

[Dracorion]

PATCA didn't know Pierce was inside Millenium House until they were right in the fucking doorstep.

The missions started because people told Irene "Sup, we know where Millenium House is" and she's all "AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!"

[Menarker]

*Re-read things and feeling a little sheepish now*

Gem, you gotta finish your placeholder way way back about Impact even helping Renny with hands-on training!

[Geminex]

I will. Eventually.

Also, Gem =/= Impact. Geez.

BTW, you wanna edit your post so that Renny doesn't defend himself? Cause otherwise Impact will just yell at him for trying to blame Pierce for his own mistakes.

[Menarker]

One sec

Edited.

[Astral Harmony]

I approve of the changes to CC&C and Dark Ambition.

I think that's all I need to address right now, right?

Oh, I don't wanna disappoint, but don't go in expecting to come out with a basketload of legendaries like I originally may have promised. Some bizarro plot twist has caused a great disturbance in the Force. Pierce will still get his, but the others like Darkrai, Cresselia, Mew and Lugia will be in the clutches of two other crazies.

'Sides, you've got enough legendaries. Anymore and I think Gemimpact will have a problem with overpowered Trainers, which I feel would be justified.

[Dracorion]

Geminex is never justified.

And fine, I'll give up Zekrom and the pony for the character and the bitches. Final offer.

Lugia's not going to be available? Horseballs, now I have to change Sophia's team.

[Astral Harmony]

Sorry about Sophia.

And before we can approve of this deal you've got going on with Zekrom, I shall require knowledge of the aforementioned character and aforementioned bitches.

You never know, Drac. I might just be crazy enough to approve it. Boosh!

[Menarker]

I can provide data on Zekrom (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Zekrom).

The character thing is iffy given how many characters he already has. But otherwise, ok.

But I myself, am not conceding on giving him any bitches, because SCREW THAT, that's why. >_>

Started making the new comprehensive rule guide to Pokemon Umbral. Its going to be a large work in progress, but hopefully with very statisfying results. (Read data from 6 discussion threads at this point as well as compiled a semi-index from Bulbapedia and such.)

[Geminex]

Before you start compiling everything into one document, share it. This would be a good time to introduce a coherent ruleset for battles, and to make a few changes as well to what we've got.

[Menarker]

Aye. Not compiling yet, although I might make a prototype version for organizational purpose.

Basically, what I'm doing is going through all the threads for:
A) AB posts with rulings and ideas that he plan to implement
B) Unanswered questions (if any)
C) Disccussed topics that have not been agreed upon

On the plus side, I'm also taking all the omakes, because damn, those things should probably be recorded on one page. ^^

[Geminex]

And once you're done...

See, we've done all this work. Shit has been balanced, systems have been set up.

What would you guys think of taking the Umbral-specific ruleset, generalizing it, and making a full RP system out of it?

[Menarker]

Interesting.

Might take a little while though. I'm just at the part where we're discussing the PATCAZORD (skipping over that).

[Geminex]

Anyone mentioning the PATCAzord will be executed. Twice.

Edit:
Seriously, it never happened. That's may story, and we are all sticking to it, or else.

[Menarker]

^^; There are worse things in them threads.

Anyhow, gotten more done, but going to take at least a week or two. (Busy with school as well)

So naturally, don't wait for me.

There are quite a few rules we all forgot about, including Overkill (Increased morale drop for the foes when we drastically over-damage a foe past the KO point.)

Kinda interesting reading these stuff over.

[Geminex]

^^; There are worse things in them threads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

Edit:
In fact, I'm watching Scrubs clips on youtube now.

i am dr cox
its me

[Astral Harmony]

I appreciate you doing that, Menarker.

Thinking on it, I don't find Overkill all that necessary. I'm sure that you and the other PCs would rather your attacks go to a living enemy instead of damaging something already dead just to deal more morale damage.

[Dracorion]

Sorry about Sophia.

And before we can approve of this deal you've got going on with Zekrom, I shall require knowledge of the aforementioned character and aforementioned bitches.

You never know, Drac. I might just be crazy enough to approve it. Boosh!

I'll figure something out for Sophia soon.

I didn't mean a fifth character now. I meant for the sequel. I was thinking a Pokemon Ranger/that new class that uses cards, I forget what it's called. He'd be one of Eldys Asherah's race, though obviously not ridiculously powerful, that'd take all the fun out of it. He should be no more powerful than a human or perhaps a half-demon.

As for why, I'm thinking their race has different castes and Eldys is higher up the ladder, so to speak.

As for the bitches: all of them.

Or just Shizuka, I can settle for that.

But I myself, am not conceding on giving him any bitches, because SCREW THAT, that's why. >_>

Bitch, please.

Not only did you already get Lola, you took Gallade form as part of a sneaky plan to grab Whitney too and appear perfectly innocent.

Also, now I don't want to let you borrow Chizuru anymore. How do you like that!

What would you guys think of taking the Umbral-specific ruleset, generalizing it, and making a full RP system out of it?

Sounds like a gargantuan task.

Why would we do this again?

[Geminex]

It's not that much work, actually. We just need to iron out a few inconsitencies, improve the ruleset a little.
And we would do this because we've spent more than a year arguing about this shit, and I'd like to be able to at least pretend that said time was productively spent.

Or just Shizuka, I can settle for that.
As long as she can settle for you.

Also, in regards to the character... I'm not sure about AB's stance on this, but I think you might be on the wrong side if you want member of Asherah's race to help you.

[Dracorion]

You've got to be right fucking stupid if you think those arguments are ever going to mean anything.

And why? Can't my guy just be a rebel or an outcast? I'd already imagined him as such anyway!

As long as she can settle for you.

Hey, she already did once!

[Geminex]

Hey, I don't think it'll be much. But we've done the work already, might as well put it to use.

Hey, she already did once!
True. True.
As long as we remember our commitments.

[Dracorion]

Sounds ominous.

I'm obviously forgetting some kinda deal we worked out a long time ago.

[Geminex]

I'll get back to you on that.

Edit:
When it's least convenient, obviously.

[Dracorion]

I'm pretty sure I remember the deal you're referring to.

While I can't remember what it was I was supposed to do for you, I do remember it wasn't anything much or particularly bad at all.

[Geminex]

Oh, nothing particularly bad. Just making sure you remembered, and Menarker too.

Anyway, that crap aside, any posts coming up?
Also, are you gonna make Sam an active character?

[Dracorion]

And if we don't remember you're not going to tell us? Bluh bluh huge bitch.

Can't post if Bard doesn't!

Active how? She's going to be a NPC like Elizabeth, if that's what you mean. Her upgrades are linked in Pierce's bio. You okayed them.

[Geminex]

Oh, I'll tell you when it becomes relevant. For now I'd have to dig through my PMs to find out what it was exactly as well. I'm pretty sure something along the lines of:

Pierce becomes rebel team leader if Menarker gets Lola, Kurika and Whitney
Pierce "cooperates" with Impact in return for getting to fight alongside the Kimonos.

Oh, yeah, forgot about that. Mkay. Enjoy your 4, possibly 5 characters. Hey, you can have an orgy without anyone else having to participate.

[Dracorion]

Oh that.

I remember that.

I was actually thinking of something else entirely, a longer while ago.

[Geminex]

Huh. Remind me.

Cause the only other thing involving Shizuka was the very first leadership deal. And as long as Pierce stays away from Lola, that one's moot, since you seem to be upholding the BR very nicely.

[Dracorion]

Yeah, that's the one.

[Geminex]

Okay, cool.
Well, if you're not making Umbral posts, I'm sure Zebrek could fire a couple of rounds at Scalis.

[Dracorion]

Sorry, too busy procrastinating!

[Geminex]

GIMME A B
GIMME A I
GIMME A T
GIMME A C
GIMME A H

WHAT DOES THAT SPELL?

[Dracorion]

Guilty as charged.

[Geminex]

I'm still not getting that post, though.
I know.

[Dracorion]

It'll be done when it's done.

[Geminex]

Jesus, is the thread full again?
This is like the old days.

And while we're at it, have we still got lurkers?

[Dracorion]

Why wouldn't we?

We have hot pictures.

[Geminex]

Kay. Put a LURKER ROLL CALL in the next thread. Preferrably before you put in the hot pics, because after the latter, nobody's gonna be reading the former.

[Dracorion]

You mean name all the lurkers or have them name themselves?

[Geminex]

Unless you know all the lurkers, they're gonna have to do it for themselves.

...

Also, they should post their own names.

[Dracorion]

I'm saying.

The former would've taken forever.