Kingdom Hearts 3D

[Kim]

IT'S RAINING SORAS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6rSwB2MdUE)

On the one hand, it isn't fair to judge based on a single trailer.

On the other hand, goddamn it looks stupid, even for Kingdom Hearts.

Combat looks fun though.

[Krylo]

Are you XXSoosaXX94, Nonsie?

[Kim]

...yes.

:(

[Krylo]

Get a better youtube name, Nonsie.

[Bells]

Dream Drop Distance?

Goddamn it square!!

Also, if you payed attetion to the trailer, this game should be called Kingdom Hearts Super Pinball Machine.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

So this game is basically a training arc for Riku and Sora then.

Also you can wall kick now. Awesome. :)

[Locke cole]

Man, I don't know what yer problem is. That flippy bouncy crap looks like great fun.

And I'm interested in the story (by the way, it's been said that the trailer's aren't quite indicative of the real cutscenes. I.E: there probably won't be raining Soras)

[Doc ock rokc]

(by the way, it's been said that the trailer's aren't quite indicative of the real cutscenes. I.E: there probably won't be raining Soras)

yeah but they usually have some keys into the story in some way. (So whats next. Soulless? anyone?)

anyway the bouncing thing is both awesome and impressive looking.

[Locke cole]

So, apparently the game's theme is "trust"

what with Xemnas somehow being in the game, I wonder if we'll see a return of "Sora, are you certain you can trust Riku?" somewhere in the game.

Also: I can't believe nobody's said this yet:

NOTRE DAME WORLD!

[Kim]

Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Volume Two was announced via the secret ending in Birth by Sleep Final Mix. Looks to be another PSP one, based on the graphics.

I've also been playing Re Coded, for the DS, which is better than Numbery Days but looks to exist solely so they could retcon more stuff into the events of Kingdom Hearts 1.

[Donomni]

I wouldn't mind a Kingdom Hearts game with Aqua as the only main character(Of course, we'll probably just get ANOTHER SORA COPY/CLONE/ROBOT/CTHULU), but then I remember 3rd Birthday and I feel kinda... unsure at the whole thought.

[Kim]

Number of Soras in KH:

1. Sora
2. Roxas (KH2)
3. Namine (Chain of Memories)
4. Xion (Numbery Days)
5. Ventus (BBS)
6. Data Sora (Re Coded)

[Marc v4.0]

3. Namine (Chain of Memories)


wut

[Yumil]

Number of Soras in KH:

1. Sora
2. Roxas (KH2)
3. Namine (Chain of Memories)
4. Xion (Numbery Days)
5. Ventus (BBS)
6. Data Sora (Re Coded)

Not exactly accurate.

Roxas is definitely Sora's Nobody. You can say hes part of him, but not. He's the closest thing to another sora.

Namine is more Kairi's Nobody than Soras. It was her heart that made her.

Xion is Roxas's Replica made from Sora's Memories, so yeah you can say shes part of him but again her existance isn't Soras.

Ventus' heart is given to Sora somehow. He becomes a part of him, but isnt him. They arent the same person. Ventus's heart may be part of what made Roxas look like he did, which would then make Roxas less Sora too.

Data Sora is a program that is supposed to act like sora. Its not actually a person.

Yeah, they are all related to Sora, but none are really Sora.

Anywho and speaking of KH3D, rumor is the trailer does not depict scenes from the actual game, but are just used to convey the overall feeling of the game. Rumor is based on an interview I havent seen yet, so can't confirm it's validity.

All we know is that Xenohorts nobody has been taken out and his heartless is still inside Riku. I assume the heartless will be permanently defeated this game and Xenohort will come back for kh3.

[Bells]

i think the main point is that this si a series with over half a dozen games and the main character only really appears to play in one of those games... Sora. in the first game.

so they could retcon more stuff into the events of Kingdom Hearts 1.

Can't be done! if you Retcon Kingdom hearts even MORE it will collpse onto itself in a singularity point in the middle of the road to nowhere.

[Kim]

Apparently it can be done because I'm watching these cutscenes and it's like "Remember this part in KH1? Well here's stuff you didn't see but was totally happening. Totally. Trust me I'm a Nomura."

[PyrosNine]

There are more Soras with every game. IT"S JUST A FACT!
KH1: There's this guy named sora we play as
KH:COM there's this other Sora we're hinted about.
KH2: There's this other Sora we meet!
KH:NUMBERS: There's this Sora Replicate made from Sora's memories.
KH: BBS Ventus shared hearts with Sora or some homo shit, and so the dark side of his heart is technically Sora!
KH: Coded: Data Sora is a AI clone with all his memories!
The Bouncer: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9b/The_Bouncer_Sion.jpg/140px-The_Bouncer_Sion.jpg

And Namine is both Sora and Kairi.

Anyway, it looks like a Side by Side kind of game, where the two have similar paths but different events and enemies, as seen by the trailer showing Sora and Riku going through traverse town, but meeting their respective nemesis at both: Sora vs Xemnas, Riku vs Xehanhort. It's likely it's not the real enemy, but a duplicate made for their training.

Perhaps being trained to be a master keyblade wielder is to challenge the darkness in your heart, I dunno. But I do like the idea of going back to old areas with new abilities. The best way to do a remake is to give everyone new stuff!

[Nique]

Apparently it can be done because I'm watching these cutscenes and it's like "Remember this part in KH1? Well here's stuff you didn't see but was totally happening. Totally. Trust me I'm a Nomura.

Fuuuuuu.jpg

I am completely gaga over Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy and this is getting ridiculous, even to me.

By the way I don't care what anyone else says you totally nailed the multiple Soras thing.

[Locke cole]

All we know is that Xenohorts nobody has been taken out and his heartless is still inside Riku.

Nope. When Ansem's Digivice or whatever exploded in KHII and blasted Riku with concentrated Heart, it blasted those remnants of ASOD clean out of him. ASOD is fully and completely dead.

Which means that both halves of Xehanort are now free to merge back together. Xehanort will be whole by the time KHIII comes along

[Yumil]

Nope. When Ansem's Digivice or whatever exploded in KHII and blasted Riku with concentrated Heart, it blasted those remnants of ASOD clean out of him. ASOD is fully and completely dead.

Which means that both halves of Xehanort are now free to merge back together. Xehanort will be whole by the time KHIII comes along

Man is this game story too convoluted.

[Locke cole]

Man, that was why I loved BBS. It was like "Wow. Suddenly I understand everything"

Until the Final Mix's freaking Secret Ending. Why you gotta convolute things right back up, man?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Man, that was why I loved BBS. It was like "Wow. Suddenly I understand everything"

Until the Final Mix's freaking Secret Ending. Why you gotta convolute things right back up, man?

Wait... What!?

[Yumil]

Wait... What!?

Looks like BBS 2 will be set in between KH1 and 2 as the secret ending in FM shows a ton of scenes from the two games and numbery days. Aqua at least looks important in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1gPP8IYyOY

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I don't know. It seems like it's going to explain how the organization was formed along with the birth of the heartless.

So

BBS V2 - The last half(?) of the Keyblade Masters story. Explains how Oganization 13 was formed, how the heartless were born. (?)

Dream Drops - Training Arc in video game form. Meant to mend Sora and Riku's trust, bring their skills up to pars, prep them for their big rescue mission in KH3.

[Yrcrazypa]

After attempting to read all this, it makes me glad I stopped playing the series after the first one. Shit's too complicated, yo.

[Locke cole]

I don't know. It seems like it's going to explain how the organization was formed along with the birth of the heartless.

So

BBS V2 - The last half(?) of the Keyblade Masters story. Explains how Oganization 13 was formed, how the heartless were born. (?)


Actually, Heartless have always been around. Like, even in Ventus's backstory. They just weren't an extremely prominent threat until ASOD caused a huge invasion of them. (and I think that that very event was shown in that secret ending: You saw that big torrent of shadows pouring into that hole in the sky, right?


Dream Drops - Training Arc in video game form. Meant to mend Sora and Riku's trust, bring their skills up to pars, prep them for their big rescue mission in KH3.

And maybe they'll learn how to use Keyblade Gliders?

edit:

Looks like BBS 2 will be set in between KH1 and 2 as the secret ending in FM shows a ton of scenes from the two games and numbery days. Aqua at least looks important in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1gPP8IYyOY

Ugh, don't watch the horrid slowed-down version of the ending.

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYMMNOj0zYQ). Yes, it's got a dumb watermark and some sort of crappy banner, but this way, the music at the end isn't distorted into horribleness by the slowdown. There was a far better version of it, but it got taken off of youtube. Haven't been able to find a version with that quality since.

[Bells]

It seems you will Control Aqua and Jump through the Fragments of Sora/ventus heart/memories that will replace Disney worlds convering all the games so far, probably trying to tie things together to lead for KH3

...yep, sounds Like Kingdom hearts alright

[Locke cole]

Or maybe it'll be "What happened in the Realm of Darkness during the games we've already seen?"

[Kim]

New best line in a Kingdom Hearts game: "Who's to say if it's even safe inside Riku?"

[Bells]

I'll let Sephiroth portrait my current feelings about this game...

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4655/dispear.jpg

Am i the only one who thinks it's really fucked up of Squeenix to make you buy 3 Game Consoles and a cellphone (4 if KH3 ends up on PS3) just so you can follow a complete story?...

[Kim]

Re Coded is a DS make of the cellphone one.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I'll let Sephiroth portrait my current feelings about this game...

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4655/dispear.jpg

Am i the only one who thinks it's really fucked up of Squeenix to make you buy 3 Game Consoles and a cellphone (4 if KH3 ends up on PS3) just so you can follow a complete story?...

Blame Sony, Nintendo, and yeah square too. It also should be remebered that Namura is a Sony Fan.

[Kim]

Just beat Re Coded. SPOILERS FOR ALL

Memories of Axel, Roxas, Xion, Namine, Ventus, Terra, and Aqua are asleep inside Sora, and they can't wake up yet but they're going to, and Mickey just found out that Ventus' heart is sleeping inside Sora.

Xehanort is coming back because, according to Yen Sid, now that his Heartless and Nobody have been destroyed his original form has been destroyed. Also, Sora is the only one who can save all those people I listed a bit ago. Even the dead ones. This means we'll probably get more Axel and more "Got it memorized?" and I will kill everyone forever.

There's some other stupidity in this game, but this is the stuff that's relevant future KH titles.

Oh, and DiZ put something inside Sora. We don't know what.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Man, with all of those people inside of him, Sora must be a regular Typhoid Marty of STDs.

[Marc v4.0]

Oh, and DiZ put something inside Sora. We don't know what.


AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

That is horrible why would you word it like that!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Just beat Re Coded. SPOILERS FOR ALL

Memories of Axel, Roxas, Xion, Namine, Ventus, Terra, and Aqua are asleep inside Sora, and they can't wake up yet but they're going to, and Mickey just found out that Ventus' heart is sleeping inside Sora.

Xehanort is coming back because, according to Yen Sid, now that his Heartless and Nobody have been destroyed his original form has been destroyed. Also, Sora is the only one who can save all those people I listed a bit ago. Even the dead ones. This means we'll probably get more Axel and more "Got it memorized?" and I will kill everyone forever.

There's some other stupidity in this game, but this is the stuff that's relevant future KH titles.

Oh, and DiZ put something inside Sora. We don't know what.

Well him being needed to save Ventus is understandable since he has the other half of his Heart/Soul.

So wait how is Xenanort coming back after being destroyed almost completely? Unless you meant he's not coming back.

[Locke cole]

Oh, and DiZ put something inside Sora. We don't know what.

Yes we do. In Birth By Sleep's secret ending (Blank Points, that is), he reveals that he put the results of his research inside Sora. Presumably, he'll be able to use that data/knowledge/whatever to put things right.

[Kim]

Well him being needed to save Ventus is understandable since he has the other half of his Heart/Soul.

So wait how is Xenanort coming back after being destroyed almost completely? Unless you meant he's not coming back.

He's coming back because he was destroyed completely.

[Locke cole]

Yeah, Destroying the heartless and nobody basically allow the two halves to meet eachother and become whole again

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Yes we do. In Birth By Sleep's secret ending (Blank Points, that is), he reveals that he put the results of his research inside Sora. Presumably, he'll be able to use that data/knowledge/whatever to put things right.

Wild Mass Guess: Sora is not human. He is simply a 10gb flash drive that happens to walk and talk like a man. Probably escaped from WALL-E's universe or is the reverse of what the fairy in Beauty and the Beast did to her victims (instead of human > object, he's object > human).

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Yeah, Destroying the heartless and nobody basically allow the two halves to meet eachother and become whole again

Ah now I get it, and it's an alright plot twist I suppose. So long as this doesn't get "Sigma" crazy and Xenanort is the permanent big bad of every KH game from 3 and up.

[Donomni]

Considering all 12 or so of the spinoffs that are still a result of one guy's dicking around, I'm pretty certain we're at that point.

Or well past it. One of those.

[Locke cole]

Nomura has said that he plans on 3 being the end of the "Xehanort Arc" or whatever.

My guess is that the end of 3 will set up the conflict for further games by having Xehanort open the road to Kingdom Hearts and sparking the new Keyblade War before he's killed.