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Dracorion
01-18-2011, 11:50 AM
ATTENTION INSIGNIFICANT HUMANS.

THIS IS YOUR GOD, CONTACTING YOU FROM THE PAST. BECAUSE I HAVE OMNIPOTENT TIME POWERS, FUCK YEAH.

SUCK MY DICK, HUMANS.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/fjgca17/sample_18e98ae3afa7475386adf6231f53a202.jpg

Awesome crossover! We seriously need to incorporate Ace Attorney into Umbral, though. Perhaps by drawing a parallel to Ace Trainers from the games?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/fjgca17/aa1bed4d42b99fdbdf80b2f145710637.jpg

Wotter, redeemed! It still looks ridiculous, but also awesome.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/fjgca17/7b4960fc65145fbc9ea2cee6daede5a4.jpg

I guess that explains why he's the evilest Pokemon villain yet.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/fjgca17/b27845c8c2133eb3ecd70f54083fa4f5.jpg

The future of Pokemon!

Are you honestly surprised?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/fjgca17/71cd7ea42a00050321c8f608b5e2a24b.png

Replace Wooper with any Pokemon you hate and now you can smile yourself to sleep at night.



Now, carry on.

Bard The 5th LW
01-18-2011, 12:07 PM
I hate you so much right now.

I once has a Wooper. I named him Crumplehat. I loved him, and he loved me. Why would you do this?

Dracorion
01-18-2011, 12:10 PM
Because I hate you.

And you still haven't done Charlotte's romantic interpretation.

Geminex
01-18-2011, 12:20 PM
Allow me.
Ahem.

HUGE BITCH
BLUH BLUH

How bout that?

Bard The 5th LW
01-18-2011, 12:42 PM
I thought it was obvious.

Geminex
01-18-2011, 02:14 PM
Hey, drac, you fat, lazy fuck. Or bard.
Or anyone, really.
Questions.

Ruin type weapons. Remind me, super effective against what?
Medic: Is he/she/it protected? The fountain still is, the medic suddenly isn't. I'm confused. I mean, if he weren't, my job would be so much easier all of a sudden. So I'm thinking he still is.
Evoliths: Do they have any elemental weaknesses? If not, why not.
Oh, and how to testament drives work again? And what type is mollesk's?

Also, fuck you for not making last turn go the way I wanted. It'd have made this turn so much easier.

I just need a bit more info, then I can formulate something coherent.

Dracorion
01-18-2011, 02:36 PM
Protected enemies are protected by the two enemies flanking them.

As in, the Medic was flanked by Sergeant B and Footsoldier C. Those are dead, so now the Medic isn't protected anymore.

You killed the Engineer that was flanking the Fount, but not Footsoldier B, so the Fount is still Protected.

Testament Drives take the primary type of the pokemon using them. They're just powerful attacks that cost 50 Rage.

Ruin type is super-effective against Fighting, Grass, Ground, Rock and Ice.

Evoliths are weak against shit all. So if you want to hit them hard, just climb on top of 'em and drop a nice big turd.

Seriously dude, the Testament Drive and Ruin type stuff is all in the documents. You should have those.

Geminex
01-18-2011, 02:44 PM
It's also past midnight and I just finished working on the most horrible equations. Fuck research.
And... okay, that's not entirely terrible. I thought the healers would get protected again. Hah. In fact...

Yeah, never mind. We've got this.

Dracorion
01-18-2011, 02:47 PM
No you don't.

>:]

Geminex
01-18-2011, 02:50 PM
No you don't.

>:]
>:]
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Dracorion
01-18-2011, 02:53 PM
>:]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

Geminex
01-18-2011, 02:54 PM
1S TH4T 4 CH4LL3NG3?
R34LLY?

Dracorion
01-18-2011, 03:01 PM
>:]

Menarker
01-18-2011, 08:24 PM
Uhh... Guys?

If you actually have any questions or comments about the rulings of the games as they have been so far (have just read your piratepad chats) then you should be asking me since I've been keeping links of relevant quotes.

Several of Gem's statements saying that *insert rule he's contesting* is wrong is indeed right.

If you want to debate the balance of the rules, that's fine. But I'm kinda informing that if I say that the rules are one way, it's damn likely to be that way because I did the entire database splurge and actually have links specifically from AB saying so.

Geminex
01-18-2011, 09:07 PM
Menarker, AB's said a lot of things. But that's not set in stone. And if he says one thing, and then both him and us have been applying it differently ever since, we should go with the rule the way we've been applying it. Kinda common sense, that.

Mind you, if you want to balance it then I will fucking balance it, that is a guarantee, but I'm hoping you won't be a douche over here and just go with it.

Astral Harmony
01-19-2011, 03:31 AM
The way Geminex and Dracorion keep bickering, I have a feeling that an appropriate epilogue for the sequel would be Impact and Pierce trying to kill the other in a climatic winner-takes-all battle. No other PCs, no NPCs, just Impact and Pierce.

Taking all bets, ladies and gentlemen.

Chizuru: "10,000 on Pierce! You GO, fucker!"
Pierce: "Ah...yeah, thank you for the vote of confidence."
Lola: "50,000 on Renny!"
Armored: "Renny's not in this fight."
Lola: "Oh...well, ummm, 5,000 on the one who's less of a douche."
Armored: "...5,000 on Pierce."
Impact: "Hey!"
Armored: "You may not exactly be evil, Impact, but compared to Pierce, you are more of a douchebag."
Impact: "Your end as the game master and author avatar will come to a swift and decisive end, I assure you."
Armored: "Case in point."
Charlotte: "100,000 on them killing each other."
*both Impact and Pierce stare at Charlotte*
Charlotte: "What? Fuck all y'all, I want you both to die. We probably wouldn't even have had an inane sequel if it wasn't for the mutual hatred you homos share with each other."
Armored: "Damn. Charlotte pulls no punches."
Charlotte: "And I spare no poison buckshot, neither."
Armored: "Renny and Matthias?"
Renny: "I hate Pierce less, so 10,000 on him."
Matthias: "100,000 on Lexhur."
Armored: "Lexhur's not in this fight."
Matthias: "But they're standing on him."
Armored: "He's there to add epicness to the fight."
Matthias: "Then 100,000 on Charlotte."
Armored: "Huh? But Charlotte isn't-"
Matthias: "She will be."
*slow closeup of Matthias's emotionless face*
Matthias: *loud whispering* "She will be."
Impact: "You're all a bunch of fools! Doesn't anyone like me enough to bet money on me?"
Sakuya: "Fine. 1 on Impact."
Armored: "Okay, 1 on Impact...wait, 1 on Impact?"
Sakuya: *nods*
Armored: "Ouch. Any other takers among the Neo Succession Army?"
Grant: "Eh, I guess I'll bet about...ohh, 5,000 on Glorious Epic Uber Superb Unyielding Majestic Handsome Insatiable Excellent Rich Hunky Who-Can-Play-All-Four-Parts-Of-Rock-Band-On-Expert-By-Himself Lord Impact."
*everyone stares at Grant*
Armored: "Right."
Sakuya: "Grant, what the hell is wrong with you?"
Grant: "What? Lord Impact told us to call him that."
Sakuya: "I'm certain he was just kidding."
Impact: "Fuck no, I wasn't kidding!"
Armored: "Okay, all bets are called. We decided that the BGM for this battle would actually just be a mash up of the two songs you picked."
*Impact and Pierce grin*
Armored: "I told you two to take this seriously, but since you're both apparently a couple of fucking morons who couldn't take this seriously, I took your choices seriously and I created a mash up of them."
*both of them freak*
Pierce: "Aw, you can't be serious!"
Impact: "Uh, please let us choose again!"
Armored: "Nope, you're getting the mash up you asked for. Start up the music. Lexhur, hit the gas. Jeanette, deploy Kyogre. Let's kick it off."

And Lexhur rockets off down the train track while a rainstorm kicks off and the BGM changes to a mash up of Jizz In My Pants and the Cake Song.

Armored: "Jizz In My Pants and the Cake Song. I wonder what their titles merged together would be?"
Charlotte: "Jizz In My Cake?"
Armored: "Thanks, Charlotte. I won't be able to eat a white cake for a long, long time."
Charlotte: "I'm a helper!"

Dracorion
01-19-2011, 03:43 AM
Neo Succession Army? That's the name of Impact's organization? That's a dumb name.

Also, Grant as in Mayor Grant from the Prideguard?

And finally, I wonder who picked what song.

...
Pierce picked the less embarassing one.

Astral Harmony
01-19-2011, 03:53 AM
Interim name for the massive force Impact will command from behind the scenes in the sequel. I'm just waiting for him to tell me what he really wants it to be called.

Jizz In My Pants is from The Lonely Island, the same guys who brought you "Like A Boss" and "I'm On A Boat" guest starring T-Pain.

The Cake Song, as best as I can remember, is some weird song sung by some asian woman with a pink wig on and some puppets or something.

Dracorion
01-19-2011, 04:24 AM
Don't think I didn't notice you ignore the Grant question.

Thanks for confirming that Impact is going to be taking over the Prideguard, by the way.

Geminex
01-19-2011, 07:02 AM
That omake is wierd.
Like, Impact has the world at his command. Pierce has a few guys.
Why would Impact make it a winner-takes all? He'd just have Pierce shot by a dozen demonic/slayer snipers simultaneously. And there is very little he could do about it.

Edit:
No, wait, wait. He'd have Shizuka kill him. For the greater good. Yeeeeah.

Also, Prideguard? I thought they were being disarmed?

DanteFalcon
01-19-2011, 07:08 AM
Hey I'd let that fight happen.

Given I'd rig it so there's no way I could lose but at least it'd seem fair up front on the likely chance I would win without cheating.

Geminex
01-19-2011, 07:09 AM
Point. Though at this point, there will likely be no sense in posturing. Besides, if the snipers fail, you can still one-on.one.

Dracorion
01-19-2011, 07:12 AM
This is the sequel epilogue fight, man. Presumably at that point sniping Pierce from afar would be moot.

Re: Prideguard. Riiiiiight.

Geminex
01-19-2011, 07:14 AM
This is the sequel epilogue fight, man. Presumably at that point sniping Pierce from afar would be moot.
Unless Impact somehow loses dominion over the wold in the course of the sequel, how...?

And I'm not saying I'm not getting it, I just didn't know about this.

Dracorion
01-19-2011, 07:24 AM
>:]

Geminex
01-19-2011, 07:27 AM
Oh no. Drac is using a terezi smiley. Clearly this indicates that he has something up his sleeve. I am terrified.

Gosh, I sure hope he doesn't reply to this with another terezi smiley. That would be so shocking and unpredictable.

Edit:
No, seriously though, you think you can weaken Impact enough for him to agree to one-on-one with you?

Dracorion
01-19-2011, 07:29 AM
God no. That'd be a horrible cliche, wouldn't it?

Geminex
01-19-2011, 07:35 AM
I'm not sure what that's in response to.

Gosh, I sure hope he doesn't reply to this with another terezi smiley. That would be so shocking and unpredictable.
If it's to this, then only when you're doing it.

If it's to this:
No, seriously though, you think you can weaken Impact enough for him to agree to one-on-one with you?
Damn right.

Menarker
01-19-2011, 09:47 AM
AB, there is a question you still didn't answer from the last thread.

AB: Would Full Restore cure flinch such as the ones that has stunned Lola for 3 turns? I'm just wondering because at the moment there is no item specific to cure flinch. The reason being because normally flinch only works for specific round and thus there is no logical reason to have a item specifically to cure something that goes away before the next turn start.


EDIT:
AB: Another question. Way Way back, you made this post regarding "Gaming Over"
http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1046643&postcount=76

Basically, if all PCs are knocked out, we lose even if we have other NPCs. Game Over.
What does that mean in a mission where we are split up? Do all 5 of us have to be knocked out regardless of where we are? Or does it means we risk getting gamed over easier when there are fewer PCs in each group?
Or are we not following this rule anymore and just assuming that as long as there are PCs and Medics, the battle is not yet over? I mean, that post was made way back last June. And we come quite so far already and we're all pretty attached to this game. I'd imagine we'd all try to use our PCs and our NPCs and go down fighting to the last combatant then suddenly lose instantly because the PCs fall in combat.

Astral Harmony
01-19-2011, 10:36 PM
Flinch cannot be cured.

But fine, a rule change: if all PCs are knocked out, the formation goes into Overwhelming Tide (morale to 0) until ALL are revived again.

The fate of the Prideguard is pretty insignificant after Burkmont is finally defeated. After all, the Gabriel Force would be wiped out, any secret bases raided, and all of the high ranking officers killed aside from that imbecile Major Grant.

Whether Impact decides to do something about the Prideguard remnants or not is his choice entirely. But in the end, they'd be pretty much like the comic relief villains if utilized at all.

What? That was Team Rocket's role? In Pokemon Umbral, Team Rocket is going to be quite serious and dangerous.

Forget Jessie and James. Forget Butch and Cassidy. Pokemon Umbral introduces the badass trio of Ryuhei, Shinobu and Omaflayer, and their intentions are far more malevolent than just abducting an electric mouse.

Menarker
01-19-2011, 10:44 PM
Glad to hear about that rule change. Editted into my database thing which is nearly complete for the most part!

You sure weren't kidding when you said way back that Renny would quickly killed off if he started sniffing in too deep with Team Rocket.

Astral Harmony
01-19-2011, 10:48 PM
Hell, if all the agents in Team Rocket were just laughably inept villains, then they wouldn't have gotten far enough to even make it to HeartGold and SoulSilver.

Menarker
01-19-2011, 10:51 PM
Well, in their defense, they were thrashed by RED. Seriously, he's practically revered as the Chuck Norris of Pokemon among official longstanding NPC characters.

The new villains of B/W is Team Plasma, and they apparently try very hard to be discreet in their plans to avoid the sort of interference the other teams get.

Astral Harmony
01-19-2011, 11:42 PM
Heh. Team Plasma.

Plasma Goon: "We're here to take your-!"
Nurse Joy: "No! You're not getting our Polemon!"
Plasma Goon: "Pokemon? Fuck that. We just need some blood plasma. One of our members needs a transfusion."
Nurse Joy: "Oh. Well, I suppose it couldn't hurt."

I hate it how their names all sound the same. God forbid they change it up a little and name it something like the Plasma Syndicate. Hell, maybe a simple name change is all they need to stop being defeated by teenagers and children.

Geminex
01-20-2011, 05:17 PM
The new villains of B/W is Team Plasma, and they apparently try very hard to be discreet in their plans to avoid the sort of interference the other teams get.
Is their leader also called Impact?
Cause he totally should.

Dracorion
01-20-2011, 05:32 PM
Nope, their leader is the guy getting his eye gouged out in the opening post of this thread.

So yeah, I guess he is Impact.

Menarker
01-20-2011, 06:14 PM
Actually that guy getting his eye gouged out is one of the leaders but the more sympathic one. The other guy... I showed you his pic. He looks like he could be Faynoc if Faynoc was a pedo-priest instead of the pedo-mad-scientist.

Geminex
01-20-2011, 06:18 PM
Nope, their leader is the guy getting his eye gouged out in the opening post of this thread.

So yeah, I guess he is Impact.

Okay, now you're just tempting me.
Specifically, tempting me to blind Impact, give him bullshit vision-replacement powers and have him wear red shades.

Seriously, I will do this. Especially if patcazords and card games appear.

H3 M1GHT 3V3N T4LK L1K3 TH1S, JUST TO SP1T3 4LL OF YOU

Dracorion
01-20-2011, 06:24 PM
Actually that guy getting his eye gouged out is one of the leaders but the more sympathic one. The other guy... I showed you his pic. He looks like he could be Faynoc if Faynoc was a pedo-priest instead of the pedo-mad-scientist.

Wait a minute hold the phone?

Are you telling me this guy (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/N) is the evil one?

I'm not even getting the pedo-priest vibe off of him!

Astral Harmony
01-20-2011, 06:42 PM
Okay, now you're just tempting me.
Specifically, tempting me to blind Impact, give him bullshit vision-replacement powers and have him wear red shades.

Seriously, I will do this. Especially if patcazords and card games appear.

H3 M1GHT 3V3N T4LK L1K3 TH1S, JUST TO SP1T3 4LL OF YOU

So I guess Impact will look like Hank J Wimbleton from Madness Combat 7 in the sequel.

Dracorion
01-20-2011, 06:59 PM
Gem's talking about Terezi from Homestuck.

He's expressing his desire for Impact to become a blind alien girl. AB, make it happen. It's what he wants.

And also, AB, you're aware that your new Game Over rule isn't quite so dangerous as it might seem at first? According to Enforcer rules, whenever a PC is knocked out they're automatically replaced with their Enforcer. And when a PC is switched out with their Enforcer for one turn, they're automatically revived with 1 HP.

Meaning that if enemies did manage to kill the PCs, the resulting Overwhelming Tide would only be in effect for one turn before they were revived.

On another note, can Renny use his Love-Tech with Lola while she's flinched?

Menarker
01-20-2011, 08:53 PM
Wait a minute hold the phone?

Are you telling me this guy (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/N) is the evil one?

I'm not even getting the pedo-priest vibe off of him!

... didn't notice their hair looked similar

Meant this guy. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Geechisu



EDIT: I kinda noticed something nice. ^^

Renny and Lola is a very nice pairing because of the number of forms or pokemons that claim to be related to emotion/happiness.

Renny has:

Togekiss: Jubliee pokemon which we all know is like an avatar of happiness. Also evolved from Togepi to Togetic by Happiness factor.
Umbreon: Evolves through Happiness factor.
Shaymin: Known as the Gratitude Pokemon.
Gallade form: Emotion pokemon with emphasis on being gallant.

Lola has two forms that evolve through Happiness. Lopunny form and Chimecho form.

^^ Doesn't change anything but it seems nice to know.


EDIT: ALMOST DONE WITH THE DATA THING.

Menarker
01-21-2011, 03:39 AM
ALRIGHT GUYS! The databook is DONE!

There is only one snag that didn't occur to me...

The size of the thing is huge. Way too much to upload normally apparently.

So I attempted to save it as a ZIP file. Let me know if you guys have any problems.

There are two files. One of them is the entire guide.
The other is the list of links to all the posts I collected for the purpose of citing/recording the data I pulled in the first place (It also includes the list of Slayer armors/weapons/accessories and all the Omakes which I already posted before.

Now, some of the data you might not find in the guidebook. That is because some of the rulings have been ruled as out of date and such. So basically, I worked my way backwards from the raw data links, inputting what was new and going toward the old stuff, ignoring whatever I came that would contradict the newer rules.


Now, as I said before, this databook is hopefully meant to be a decent guide to what the current Umbral setting is like, but if I made any mistakes or if it looks like things needs to be rebalanced/edited, we can surely work that out.

AB, please let me know what you think of it. Would like to hear your input, and I did put some notes (in red font) as a reminder to myself as to questions I felt needed to be asked/clarified.


Hoping you all find this useful and worthwhile.

Astral Harmony
01-21-2011, 08:17 AM
Gem's talking about Terezi from Homestuck.

He's expressing his desire for Impact to become a blind alien girl. [COLOR="DarkOrange"]AB, make it happen. It's what he wants.

He wants a LOT of things, but even if I was a entirely compliant GM for Geminex's needs, there are some things I just cannot grant.

And also, AB, you're aware that your new Game Over rule isn't quite so dangerous as it might seem at first? According to Enforcer rules, whenever a PC is knocked out they're automatically replaced with their Enforcer. And when a PC is switched out with their Enforcer for one turn, they're automatically revived with 1 HP.

Meaning that if enemies did manage to kill the PCs, the resulting Overwhelming Tide would only be in effect for one turn before they were revived.

Good point. That whole "power up in the rearguard" bullshit is something that will go away. It's impossible to keep track of and it grants a rather unfair advantage. I mean, you guys having power is fine, but I think you'd like it more if the battles were challenging and the victories were hard won.

On another note, can Renny use his Love-Tech with Lola while she's flinched

Sure, he can do that.

Dracorion
01-21-2011, 08:46 AM
He wants a LOT of things, but even if I was a entirely compliant GM for Geminex's needs, there are some things I just cannot grant.

Well it's not that hard.

He can try to splice his own DNA with Eldys', to become like an Eldys Pokebrid or something.

But the result is horrible and he turns into a mutated blind alien thing with no actual alien powers.

Good point. That whole "power up in the rearguard" bullshit is something that will go away. It's impossible to keep track of and it grants a rather unfair advantage. I mean, you guys having power is fine, but I think you'd like it more if the battles were challenging and the victories were hard won.

So basically, all the bonuses PCs used to get for being switched out with their Enforcers, and vice versa, are out?

Cool.

Menarker
01-21-2011, 12:17 PM
Hehe, I just submitted my databook and already one of the sections "Enforcer rules" is out of date now.

Guess I'll also have to think of some other way for Bard's team to get out of the mess they are in now. >_>


I have just edited the rulething including that change and adding the Happiness System for Snaggers I had forgotten. Go ahead and download it. Again if you have to. :3
EDIT: Yes, Drac, I changed it again. Thank you.


Drac, for some reason, Renny didn't get rage when he was attacked. I know he doesn't get rage when he is attacking, but being attacked is different.
http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1069114&postcount=71

Astral Harmony
01-21-2011, 08:06 PM
Bard's team should already be taken care of. Poor Moera. She's going to have a serious inferiority complex after her third frickin' loss.

Dracorion
01-21-2011, 08:12 PM
I don't know about "yet".

But soon, yeah.

Geminex
01-21-2011, 08:23 PM
Also, in regards to this:
He's expressing his desire for Impact to become a blind alien girl. AB, make it happen. It's what he wants.
I was more thinking of him sacrificing his eyesight to get more demonic powers. Among them a really strong aura sense, which'd be his main sense from then on. That'd be thematic, it'd characterize him, and it'd be freaking awesome. Would that work, AB?
Though I really only need approval for the aura sense. The rest is my choice, isn't it?

Oh, and in regards to Dinner, they don't have to be together physically. I'm sure they'd build quite a strong mental bond. I think the relationship would be feasible.
Though I'll check out the other powerful girls you have.

Dracorion
01-21-2011, 08:38 PM
By the way, and answer is "Hell No".

Geminex
01-21-2011, 09:05 PM
Do you have to try to sound this stupid, or does it come naturally?

I mean, jegus. I've been re-reading that, and, while I think I appreaciate the sentiment, it's just so much inanity in so few words...

Dracorion
01-21-2011, 09:08 PM
Oh shit! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOPlKMa9BzE)

Geminex
01-21-2011, 09:12 PM
Hey, hey, you forgot to add a Terezi smiley to the end of that.

Ooh, and don't forget to tell me what kind of fires I started.

And maybe throw in some scrubs clips, in case anyone was under the impression that you had some vestige of originality left and you weren't blatantly ripping off everything you do from me.

In fact, you should do that right now!

Dracorion
01-21-2011, 09:16 PM
Alternatively, hey, fuck you! Plot powers don't equate magical bullshit douchebag godmode powers.

Astral Harmony
01-21-2011, 11:41 PM
Children, if you keep this up, I'm turning the Threatre thread around and we'll go right back to New Jersey!

If Impact wants to go blind just to see like the Predator or some shit, I say more power to him. Though I feel a bizarre urge to make him see things that he couldn't see before it happened.

Impact: "Teletubbies commiting sodomy! My eyes, the goggles do nothing!"

No, not really, but I think he will get to see things about people that they didn't really want exposed. Like Charlotte's "imaginary friend", Phantomere.

Dracorion
01-21-2011, 11:43 PM
Godfuckingdammit.

Astral Harmony
01-22-2011, 01:22 AM
Geez, Drac, don't have a BMW or anything. It's not like he's asking for anything helpful.

Dracorion
01-22-2011, 01:28 AM
Oh right.

I forgot we were talking about Geminex.

Carry on.

Geminex
01-22-2011, 04:58 AM
Jegus. I don't want any more power with this. I'm replacing Impact's vision with aura vision. But I'd be getting aura vision anyway, so this isn't some sort of unexpected powerup. Hell, it's no powerup at all!

Cause I'm pretty sure his advanced auravision will have more or less the effect of (Normal auravision)+(Sight substitutue). Nothing extra.
It's not a way for me to somehow read minds or see through walls or shit. It's a way for me to be more of a terezi fanboy.

Bard The 5th LW
01-22-2011, 12:22 PM
retaaaaaaaaaarded

Geminex
01-22-2011, 12:25 PM
Minion say what?

Astral Harmony
01-22-2011, 08:42 PM
Minion say what?

Don't go there, Geminex.

You know as well as I do that Charlotte would sooner become Melanie's masochistic sex toy than Impact's servant.

Go ahead and try to subjugate her. She'll rip out your heart, cram a grenade in it and shove it in your peehole. You wouldn't know whether you're coming or going! *rimshot*

Dracorion
01-22-2011, 08:45 PM
You know as well as I do that Charlotte would sooner become Melanie's masochistic sex toy than Impact's servant.

There is some merit to this idea and it deserves to be explored further.

Bard The 5th LW
01-22-2011, 09:03 PM
Minion say what?

reeeeeeeeeetaaaaaaaaaaaardeeeeeeeeed

Geminex
01-22-2011, 09:05 PM
You know as well as I do that Charlotte would sooner become Melanie's masochistic sex toy than Impact's servant.
How about first one, then the other.

reeeeeeeeeetaaaaaaaaaaaardeeeeeeeeed
Oh, it is on.

Edit:
I would say more, but I feel my avatar adequately expresses my feelings.

Astral Harmony
01-22-2011, 11:00 PM
But it's the pelvic thruuuuuuuust that really drives me insa-a-a-a-ane!

Let's do the Time Warp agaaaaaaain!

Geminex
01-22-2011, 11:01 PM
But it's the pelvic thruuuuuuuust that really drives me insa-a-a-a-ane!

Let's do the Time Warp agaaaaaaain!
Yes and Yes.

Dracorion
01-23-2011, 12:17 PM
You're retarded.

Geminex
01-23-2011, 12:23 PM
Minion say what?

Astral Harmony
01-24-2011, 03:07 AM
I think I need to see a psychiatrist.

Why?

One of the characters I have planned for the sequel is named Sixty-Nine.

And despite this name, the character is not an outrageously slutty female.

Menarker
01-24-2011, 03:23 AM
Somehow guessing the character is a mostly stoic female. Probably in the same vein as "Seven of Nine" from Star Trek Voyager, which I'm taking a wild guess is where you got the inspiration for the name from. (and added your personal touch)

Astral Harmony
01-24-2011, 08:35 AM
*buzzer*

Angh! Wrong answer! That was nowhere near it.

Well, since the forum is slow, or at least the RP section is, I think I'll do another little omake. Time to make the Pokemon Umbral characters say things they would never say ever.

Impact: "I respect you, Pierce."
Pierce: "You're an invaluable member of this team, Impact."
Renny: "...Fuck the world."
Charlotte: "I love ponies, and kitties, and rainbows, and working with the community!"
Matthias: "The snozberries taste like snozberries."
Armored: "No, Matthias. You need to say something that you normally wouldn't say."
Matthias: "Oh, uhh...hail Satan?"
Armored: "Mmm...still sounds like something you'd say in the RP."
Matthias: "Well, I could use some inspiration, y'know? Something to respond to."
Armored: "..."
Matthias: "..."
Armored: "Anything boiling to the surface yet?"
Matthias: "That's what she said! ...Or he. I could go both ways, really...and that is also what she said!"
Armored: "We went pretty far for that obscure Yu-Gi-Oh The Abridged Series reference. Oh, well, that'll work. Next up."
Rayleen: "Where all da white womens at?"
Lola: "I can't start the morning without rockin' out the Dragonforce."
Melanie: "I think I'll head off and join a nunnery."
Rio: "I don't know what the hell an innuendo even is."
Chizuru: "I think I'll put Aster and Renny together in a naughty doujinshi."
Shannon: "Honestly, I'm using Moon to bear the love child I'll share with Wilhelmina. Baby got back!"
Muon: "I couldn't possibly be the token black character."
Alphonsine: "I've never used my outrageous curves and raw sex appeal to become a celebrity."
Bretton: "I don't believe that I need my spectacular muscles to get laid."
Ricewood: "I never expected that Faynoc would abduct my daughter out of revenge. That totally came out of nowhere."
Faynoc: "One of these days I'll have a normal relationship with someone."
Burkmont: "I'm the perfect gentleman."
Mio: "If I try hard enough, I can become a normal little girl again."
Garus: "One of these days, the player characters will put me in the formation."
Moon: "Fuck this one partner shit, I'm gettin' more poon than a chinese phonebook!"
Harliette: "I wish my sister would make out with me again."
Discord: "I'm certain there's a respectable man worth falling in love with somewhere out there."
Whitney: "There's nothing wrong with wanting to marry my older brother."

...and finally...

Armored: "I love all of you!"

...

Armored: "Gawd, I can't believe I said that."
Matthias: "But it's something you wouldn't normally say, right?"
Armored: "Still, the fact that I had to say that at all is horrible. 'Scuse me, I need to go wash my mouth out with a heaping bowl of stupid."

Dracorion
01-24-2011, 08:50 AM
Whitney: "There's nothing wrong with wanting to marry my older brother."

Gotcha, AB! You fucked up here!

SOOOOOOOOOOO BUUUUUUUSSTEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDD

Astral Harmony
01-24-2011, 09:18 AM
Minion say what?

Dracorion
01-24-2011, 09:19 AM
SOOOOOOOOOOO BUUUUUUUSSTEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDD

Geminex
01-24-2011, 10:41 AM
Minion say what?

Hey, that's my catchphrase! It only works when I saiy "Minion say what?". It loses all meaning when you say "Minion say what?".

Dracorion
01-24-2011, 10:52 AM
SOOOOOOOOOOO BUUUUUUUSSTEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDD

Geminex
01-24-2011, 11:08 AM
Hey, AB. Use this on him. (http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t90/lishakara/SICK_FIRES_BRO.gif) It is his only weakness.

Menarker
01-24-2011, 01:22 PM
Reposting the battle plan I had for Bard for my reference: Still thinking on whether to actually have Bard use it. I will probably have to change it though since I made the plan back when I thought we were still using the old enforcer rules.


Melanie: Shift to Honchrow form for immunity to psychic type (and avoiding 2 quad weaknesses) Spends 75 of her 80 rage to use 5 items. 2 healing items on herself and on Kyrie (Heal the two up to full), and 1 revive on Entei (which also gives Kyrie 25 rage for being a leader).
Charlotte: Switch with Mio.
Mio: Shifter to Raikner Form. Use "Cluster Fall" to hit 4 random targets. (100 Pwr x 2, 4 Foes (Random), Ruin) Paradigm Shift after gaining rage from the attack.
Kyrie: Spends her 50 rage to use Endless Waltz on "Psyshade Charlotte" for 500 power with whatever damage is super effective (Probably Bug/Ghost/Dark).
Cecilia: Spends 50 rage to use Great Escape. Is Invincible for 3 turns. Attack Psyshade Charlotte. If she is knocked out, target Psyshade Kyrie. If both are knocked out, target Psyshade Matthias. Use the weapon "Murder of Crows" with any of these.

Bard The 5th LW
01-24-2011, 06:37 PM
Charlotte: "I love ponies, and kitties, and rainbows, and working with the community!"

These can be true if twisted to an extent.

Geminex
01-24-2011, 06:38 PM
Charlotte: "I love ponies, and kitties, and rainbows, and working with the community!"

Bestiality, drug abuse and arson?

Menarker
01-24-2011, 07:26 PM
I realized that the groups that we're going to be having for the sequel is kinda foreshadowed by our first mission. Pierce and Renny in one group like they were for the rooftop. Impact, Charlotte and Matthias in the same grouping as per the front door invasion. And everyone else who was in group 3 during the first mission is pretty much permanently absent.

Hehe. There isn't really a logical connection between the sequel and the first mission, but it kinda made me smirk.

Geminex
01-24-2011, 07:31 PM
There isn't really a logical connection between the sequel and the first mission,
EXACTLY AS PLANNED.

Menarker
01-27-2011, 02:45 AM
I just woke up with this ... is it an awesome or horrible revelation?

Anyhow, I was thinking in my head wondering how much longer until AB is ready with the promised sprite comic (no rush btw. Just excited). I have also been playing Pokemon Platinum over AGAIN, which involves yet another bunch of mass-breeding of pokemons...

And since the sprite comic (or one of them) is about Renny being taught about the birds and the bees by the ladies of this RP... I had this horrible revelation based on the laws of pokemon reproduction...

Basically, in the pokemon games, it is possible to not only breed pokemons with different species (so long as they are in the proper egg group)... But you can also breed pokemons with their offsprings/parents!
Like, I caught a female houndour and I wanted to breed for nature, but I didn't have a male one (and it was damn hard to catch one in the first place because they would keep using roar and ending the battle prematurely). So, I bred that level 20 houndour with the male level 4 Shinx I caught early in the game which also happened to be of the same "Ground egg group". Because they were different species caught by the same trainer, their attraction rating was low, but eventually, I got some eggs. The first male baby houndour I got, I switched Shinx out (who got 20 levels in the process of being in the daycare) and started breeding that newborn level 1 male houndour with the now level 25 female houndour... >_> They started pumping eggs with tripled chance of success...

Now, I'm starting to wonder if any of the ladies that Renny would be talking to would try to use any of THOSE examples especially if they (such as Lola) justified any hypothethical attraction to him by claiming it is "perfectly natural in the pokemon world". Especially since Renny is pretty much younger than all of them and pretty much... fits the situation (without being that far on the extreme).

MY! MIND! IS! BLOWN!

Geminex
01-27-2011, 06:23 AM
That.
...
What?

Jesus, whatever you're on, you need to stop taking it before you go to sleep.
This is worse than the interracial lola gang-rape nightmare. Was that even a nightmare?

Menarker
01-27-2011, 01:45 PM
It wasn't exactly a nightmare so much as me sleeping and then that series of events running through my head and I catapult awake as if waking up from one and going... Shhhitttt. >_<

I mean, look at the pokemon games. Pokemons creating eggs cause such a stir that you can't even go past Hearthome city to the next town because several guys are blocking the doorway because "The next town over found an egg!" and they blocking the way as if they were cutting off public access to a metaphorical crime scene.
Seriously, I could understand if they just lied about not knowing how eggs were created because your character is a 10 year old trainer and they didn't feel that sort of knowledge should be revealed to someone so young, but then why are they standing around being a public annoyance? The way they behave, it's like they don't know how pokemon reproduction occurs despite their society having lived thousands of years alongside them!


>_< Yeah... shittttt. ^^;

And I'm not even going to elaborate on some of the other weirdness/stupid stuff like tall buildings with elevators but no stairs.

Astral Harmony
01-28-2011, 09:58 PM
The stairwells to those buildings are probably exterior on the side of the building that you cannot see.

Besides, even if there were no stairwells, it's still not as ridiculous as an old man with no super advanced equipment being able to turn fruits into special Pokeballs. And you guys say that this RP is ridiculous, at least there's no old man with no super advanced equipment being able to turn fruits into special Pokeballs.

Anyways, I'm back in Guam and my Internet works now. I'll pick up on the GMship once your current battle concludes. In the meantime, there's so many new games and DVDs to check out.

*shudders*

Dead Space 2...wow. Those Necromorphs really know how to fuck up a space station.

Dracorion
01-28-2011, 10:02 PM
Basically...

Start posting in the RP, douchebags.

Menarker
01-29-2011, 01:24 AM
Glad to have you back safe AB. ^^

Anyhow, I copy pasted the major content for the pad and copied it to the new pad which has so far proved to be more reliable.

http://edupad.ch/NWIha6ZbJW

Will also link to my signature.

Astral Harmony
01-29-2011, 05:21 AM
I've come with some additions to the rules, effective immediately once approved by all y'all. It's all pretty much based on Logic. I dunno why I thought of new rules for Snipers when I was playing Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood. My mind goes in bizarre directions.

New Rules About Snipers and the Move Super Fang:

The Sniper class can directly attack enemies that are under the Protected status. This goes for their own attacks, attacks by any deployed Pokemon, the Killshot skill shared by all Snipers, and Signature Techniques and Pokemon Co-Ops.

When characters are in the Rearguard of the formation, they are placed under Protected status. No, this does not mean they can attack like enemies with the same status. Rather, it means they can still be attacked by enemy Snipers.

Additionally, Snipers will now recieve Rage bundles per turn like Destroyers instead of earning it during the trading of blows like the rest of you since not being in the formation makes it next to impossible for them to gain Rage by being hit. All Snipers will recieve 25 Rage at the start of each and every turn except for the first turn, where as you know they start with 50 like everyone else except for Destroyers will still recieve their dose of 100.

A Sniper's Killshot will not be able to instant-kill PC characters (like you), L-Type enemies like military tanks and PokeWeapons, and Boss status enemies like...well, bosses. However, very high damage will still be dealt to make the spending of 50 Rage worthwhile. If a Killshot does kill someone or something like that, it's because they were idiots who let their health fall a little too low.

These same enemies will not have their health cut in half by Super Fang, but the move will still do considerable damage so as not to make itself worthless. It seems to be one of Charlotte's primary tactics and I wouldn't want to render it useless except for when putting down bitch enemies.

Menarker
01-29-2011, 12:20 PM
Well, I got no issue with those proposed rule change myself.

Mind you, there are some more balancing issues being discussed ever since I did that database thing. Especially regarding the specifics of actions and the happiness system (or rather the entire snagger class in general)

Dracorion
01-30-2011, 12:50 PM
Renny's full name is Renacious Tresserhorn, named after his grandfather who served in a war but did nothing particularly special.

Just though you should know.

EDIT: And his middle name is Sonny.

Geminex
01-30-2011, 01:36 PM
I approve.
We should beat him up.

Edit:
Hey, guys. Guys.
Excuse me while I end these threads forever. (http://www.geekologie.com/2011/01/24/pokemon-girls-full.jpg)

Astral Harmony
02-01-2011, 08:52 PM
Nice link, Geminex.

Oh, and I'm not doing the card system after all. It wasn't so much the issue with using cards as it was the elements involved. The reason I had those elements in the first place was because the creatures of the netherworld were also going to be based on those elements, but screw that as well. Now the demons will have Pokemon types and that'll make all this much easier and understandable.

Cards kind of do still exist (Eldys's own Arceus was in a card, after all), but their use will be more like the Knomere version of Pokeballs (Pokecards?).

You say to-may-to, I say to-mah-to, and in the end they both still hold and deploy Pokemon.

Knomere: "It's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-duel!"

Ugh.

Dracorion
02-01-2011, 08:54 PM
Don't do it, AB!

If you give up...

Geminex wins.

Menarker
02-01-2011, 09:07 PM
Renny's full name is Renacious Tresserhorn, named after his grandfather who served in a war but did nothing particularly special.

Just though you should know.

EDIT: And his middle name is Sonny.

WRONG, FALSE, UNTRUE, LIES, ERROR...



And AB deciding not to do the card thing doesn't bug me. It'll make it easier on him at least. ^^
I mean, we still got current issues with the system to worry about.

AB, do you think you can try to access the Umbral conversation pad now? Since:
A: You're back home instead of using wireless and such.
B: We switched to a different server instead of Piratepad which had been crashing several times.
Just click on the first link of my signature to "EduPad/Chatroom for Pokemon Umbral".

Bard The 5th LW
02-01-2011, 10:37 PM
I have no opinion on the card system. However, I will put some support in keeping it NPC exclusive to reduce complications.

Post is also up, and Charlotte is flipping her shit. I'm tempted to have Hammond be suspiciously replaced next mission.

Astral Harmony
02-02-2011, 04:29 AM
There's nothing wrong with Geminex winning, when he's right.

I'll just go and say that what he said had no bearing on my decision to get rid of card battles (well, perhaps a teeny tiny bit), but rather my own reevaluation of it.

And to be honest, I kinda don't want to join the pad. While I may be able to devote about four or six hours during a posting night, I really, really, really don't wanna sit on a computer all evening and talk with you guys.

What? I got stuff to do.

Dracorion
02-02-2011, 06:59 AM
</3

Astral Harmony
02-03-2011, 08:02 PM
</3

Don't gimme that. If I was you, it wouldn't be a hard choice between me and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood or Fable III or Dead Space 2 or Splatterhouse or Mafia II, either.

Or even me and Crackdown 2.

Geminex
02-03-2011, 08:06 PM
Oh, you people have been doing shit.

Geminex wins.
http://ib.skaia.net/image/1685.png

I'm fine with the changes to snipers. And the removal of cards. And Renny's new name.

Menarker
02-06-2011, 01:41 AM
So, AB, I know there are some changes pending for the data rulebook I made, (some of it from discussing things with Gem and Drac) but did you have any thoughts about it? Liked it, thought I made some errors or something? Think something I put there is outdated? I would be glad to know about any concerns or ideas.

We're still trying to work out the specifics of actions and Snaggers (trying to avoid having to keep track of yet another stat, the happiness one)


In fact, there are a few sections in the data rulebook which asks for clarifications. I'll put them here.

- All character can use the ability Prime to double their rage generation with the forfeiture of their regular action. (Clarify if this means all actions are forfeited or just one)

- If a Slayer or Pokebrid is defeated and then revived, they gain 50/100 Rage Points due to the new passive ability, Vengeful Rage. Pokemon Trainers and Snaggers gain 25/100 Rage Points per Pokemon revived due to this same ability. This ability is not activated on a character who died because of a suicidal move, like Explosion or Healing Wish. (Change ruling so only Leader Pokemons are affected?)

(Ask if Snagballs can be aimed at other foes like humanoids to try to inflict a status condition instead of being limited to just pokemons. Also ask if snagballs deal damage and if so, how much.)

- If a medic with pokemons leaves combat, their Pokemon stay, but they cannot attack. Despite any orders one might give, Pokemon only respond to the call of their master. They're basically tanking that turn, also preventing Single Target and Multi-Target moves from effecting the Medic. (Clarify this!)

- Dual-classed NPCs gain levels in both their primary classes at the same time. (Ask if NPC abilities are effectively exactly like AB’s upgrade list or if there is a standard ability list for NPCs.)

How much power does a Testament Drive has? 500?